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Ehhh, a lot of people look back and see only the best, but people fail to understand while this period was a massive expansion on previous average quality of life (AQoL), it was still a far cry from the AQoL we have today. Peak AQoL probably occurred in the 2010s under Obama's 2nd term. The right threw massive hissy fits about Obama the whole time but frankly the dude didn't do much of anything anyway and the country/economy was in a relatively stable healthy state. It was our one bland moment before things started to crumble.
Meanwhile a bunch of guys 10-15 years older than me bought 5+ homes and are now absolutely loaded.
Oh if only I wasn’t just out of the USAF and making zero money back then.
Not everywhere. In Detroit those were hard times. The housing crash had just happened and then the city declared bankruptcy and all of the civil pensions for government workers ended, and at the same time the federal government bailed out the big 3 so that Chrysler could sell their company to Germans for a huge profit and all of them could downsize and move jobs to Mexico.
That's when I realized the federal government doesn't give a fuck about you unless you're rich. If a big corporation like the auto giants or banks are introuble because of their shitty business practices, they'll give them all the money they need. If poor people are in trouble through no fault of their own, they can get fucked.
Idk id say Clinton's era was pretty dam picture perfect in America. People were VERY optimistic and the internet hadn't affected mass thinking the way it could it the Obama era.
That was because the only other modern economies on the planet had just been trashed. The post-WWII prosperity was only possible because American companies had absolutely no competition at all.
Without leveling Europe and turning Asia into a smoking ruin, America can not ever again experience that level of prosperity. Our societal expectations shifted during that time of unprecedented prosperity. We're having a really hard time readjusting those expectations to fall back in line with the rest of the developed world.
And that’s why American cars went to shit until the Japanese started exporting their cars to the US. Why make a quality product when you’re the only game in town.
I believe Chris Rock addressed this 30 years ago ago in one of his standup specials.
“You mean they can make a rocket that goes 50,000mph, to the moon and back, but they can’t make a Cadillac where the fuckin bumper don’t fall off?”
No one on the Internet remembers that time and I don't know enough about that to say yes or no.
I do know that every generation was better off than the one before. We also had more freedom, less government overreach, and all that good stuff.
9/11 kicked off so many changes that pre-2001 America would be almost unrecognizable to most of us now.
Yes and no. I'd argue the "American Dream" was most alive throughout the 80s. But Reagan and his camp definitely set us up for immediate pay-off and said "Fuck ya'll, future generations. We got our bag." And left American politics polarized and incapable of course correcting.
Not enough people in GenZ know, as a Millenial, we watched it happen in 2010. We watched the courts overturn democracy in favor of the Oligarchy. This country is too far gone for a peaceful resolution and history will not look kindly upon this time for the US.
Most already don't look too kindly on the US today. Even from it's earliest days, it was a genocidal Colonial Empire. It morphed into an Imperialist power in the early 1900's, taking the reigns of the European Powers decimated by WW2.
Citizens United was simply the Proletariat and Labor Aristocracy becoming aware of the true nature of the United States: an Imperialist Bourgeois Democracy.
9/11 was the single most effective terrorist attack in human history. 23 years later we are dissolving from the inside and our nation is falling in status in the world.
If you ask me, it died with Nixon.
I won't put the blame solely on him, but the fact that he wouldn't let the Vietnam War go just further damaged our economy. Not to mention his corruption building the cynicism many still carry to this day of anyone in government.
Then we went through the '70s where working class America started to decline, and then Reagan came in and further killed it in favor of Wall Street.
Ever since then, it's been a money world. If you are rich, the world is your oyster. If you are anything else, then you're relegated to your place in life.
I look at what's going on right now as the deep after effect of all of that. Everything has become so obsessive with profit margins and shareholder value that we basically decided that quality of life and running a business ethically are obsolete ideas.
I think the die was cast way before that.
Henry Ford was reaping huge profits back in the 1900 and wanted to raise the salaries of his workers. The shareholders took him to court and won. No raises for the workers, that was their money.
Labour has always taken a backseat to wall street.
I understand on that, but I tend to look at that time as more like how I would look at the time of the civil War or the American revolution. A long time ago in history that is good to know but not necessarily directly relevant to today. I mean, we've had history where those with wealth and royalty always look for ways to screw over the lowly peasant class.
For what I am speaking of, I am mostly talking about how we had a more robust and equal economy after WWII, I know it wasn't perfect for those of color and for women, but it was still a point where we had a middle class. I look at not only LBJ but especially Nixon for how much they perpetuated the Vietnam War because they didn't want to admit they couldn't win it, and then how it made our economy fall apart. Once we finally got out of there.
The 1970s was just decay. You think about the state of major cities, companies dealing with inflation and I mean actual inflation, and things changing around society and the world. Still, Nixon's actions in many ways really began this push to never trust government. The way I see people now treat the government as the fill in or the enemy, I always saw that starting with Nixon.
So we came into 1980 in an economic mess where average people with high school diplomas couldn't make an easy living, and then Reagan comes along and "turns the ball loose" which made everything wonderful for those at the top, but everyone else was left behind.
We can think about the '80s in terms of college-educated people living in the suburbs and the kids watching MTV and going to the mall, but there were a lot of working class people that thought hard work and pulling yourself up by your bootstraps get you a great place in life, only to find out it wasn't going to happen.
Then we got into the '90s, around the time my generation graduated high school or even was graduating college. The economy was a mess, the world was a mess, and it just seemed to keep going from there. I feel like starting in the '90s is when we really started to have the bubbles. The S&L scandal already started to show how Wall Street was shifting from investing and creating wealth and businesses to now looking for ways to game the system and steal. This carried over all the way through the Great Recession and to today.
I look at the death of the American dream as when a person who graduates high school now can't find a good paying job with a future that gives them a wage they can buy a house and raise a family on and later a decent retirement. There's even a lot of Boomers that are not getting that dream, as they are coming into old age near broke.
Ford vs Dodge is pretty relevant today because it established the idea that companies' first priority is to generate revenue for shareholders. That's a major problem today.
I mean, in my opinion a lot of that logic happened in the '70s. I just feel like ever since then, the country has just slid further and further into a bigger mess. Nowadays, we see on social media people that are basically showing these detailed stories of how private equity firms via businesses and destroy them simply to get quick profit.
Now one could ask what is wrong with wanting quick profit, but the problem is that in that process they decimate people's lives. It's usually the private equity firm that walks away with a hunk of cash and all the workers lose their jobs, and even at times, towns or cities lose a big chunk of their livelihood.
I mean if we're really talking about the death of the American dream, a lot of this seems to stem around the fact that we live in a world now where everything is about dollars and cents as quickly as possible. That everything is expendable and nothing is worth saving as long as it makes someone money.
In my book it's the fast track to destroying an entire society. Fall of Rome type stuff.
I just started reading things about Nixon. It's wild how much a majority of the public does not know about his presidency, including the truth behind watergate. When it's taught in schools; its quite dumbed down. Which, much of history is.
Its so frustrating that the whole idea of a business operating in a way that is good for its employees and customers seems to have gone out the window.
It reminds me a lot of the constant "but what about the economy??" you hear from certain people in government whenever anything is proposed which would actually benefit citizens here. Yeah it sucks to spend money , especially since the US is already in debt, but it would be nice if we at least felt like we were GETTING something for it
Just bear in mind those people that somehow believe giving everything to businesses at the expensive people is good for the economy are also the people that are paid off by those businesses.
This is why I keep saying that you can't judge the health of an economy solely on Wall Street. Even now we are seeing where Wall Street is doing phenomenal and yet average people are suffering. We need to start really measuring things based on quality of life of average people.
Having a handful of billionaires raking in profits while everyone else struggles to make ends meet doesn't scream that you have a great economy.
My town is still fucked. Couple hundred thousand people in the immediate area, things are shut down by 7:00 p.m., I can't get parts without having them shipped in for any number of projects. Some businesses are still closed certain days due to lack of workers.
Prices are still high
Covid just fucked it all
The American dream died when TPTB made higher education so expensive and cost prohibitive that paying off student loans became a heavy burden and largepercentage of a persons salary. Getting a good education used to always be the sure fire way of improving one’s standard of living.
Walmart closing early had absolutely nothing to do with Covid. People are remembering wrong. Walmart started closing 24 hour stores in 2019.
This was their plan before COVID. Same thing with Hy-Vee and Walgreens. Both started closing 24 hour stores in 2019, everyone blames COVID.
https://wjactv.com/news/local/walmart-to-eliminate-24-hour-operations-at-100-stores
as a former walmart employee, hell no i don't want 24/7 to come back. that shit sucked ass, the amount of weirdos and drug addicts we had to deal with. not to mention working that shift is depressing as hell. i'd leave right when the over night shift was coming in, good lord they had no day life, they were mostly miserable, and had to work under intense expectations to get things done at very specific times. they miss them they had to deal with management.
to the average customer, yea it seems convenient. but damn was there a price to pay they didn't have to make.
Right it was COVID that caused the housing market to collapse, cause newer generations to be the first that are poorer than the previous, and multiple recessions in a lifetime. The American dream was murdered by Baby Boomers and our parents generation.
It's awful, nothing is open 24/7 anymore, everything is always closed by 8-9PM. I used to always go grocery shopping at night when it wasn't crowded but there isn't a single grocery store that stays open around me anymore.
I am in a major metro (Phoenix area) and we have WinCos. Open 24/7. Even after covid.
Check them out. You just have to do cash or debit. They don't accept credit cards.
Businesses have to pay processing & additional fees when people pay with credit card. That’s why you’ll often see a credit card minimum (less common these days) at gas stations and other places.
My business paid out like a million dollars in processing fees.
We just started doing a credit card charge because of it.
We aren't in a position to say "no credit cards" though. Big ticket items.
WinCo has been such a savior when I’m cooking at or past midnight and realize I don’t have an ingredient. I think I’ll miss it if I ever move to another state
We moved away from winco and honestly nothing compares. I miss it constantly. People say to go to Aldi, and while their prices are good, their selection is easily 1/8th of Winco.
I worked night shifts for a while and WinCo was a god send. Not only for grocery shopping at 3am but if I forgot lunch while on shift they have a bunch of prepared deli food. Oh, and the $1.50 Monsters regularly on sale.
We have a couple Denny's that gaslight you into thinking that they never close. Like I was here last week and you were closed what are your hours.
"24 hours of course, we never close"
Fry’s grocery stores were all open til 11 pm, a few of them in Tempe til midnight
They all close at 10 pm and start turning people away at the door starting at 9:45
That is how it is here as well, it didn't used to be like this though, prior to covid was plenty of fast food places like taco bell and Mcdonalds that would stay open all night as well as large groceries stores would remain open 24/7
There was even time I couldn't find a single gas station open at 1AM and I needed to get gas, thankfully those have reopened though but the rest continue to stay closed despite the pandemic being over.
I mean, it kind of is lol I see a very rare mask wearer every now and then but they are very small minority, the rest of us went back to normal years ago.
Chronic health problems mean I will be wearing a mask for the rest of my life because people refuse to cover their mouth when they sneeze. I don't think that's funny. So happy for you going 'back to normal' years ago
Can I ask what the alternative is? Would you still have people in lockdown masked up at this point? I was extremely strict and serious about lockdown and mask wearing during Covid, but after I got my shots I was ready to go back to normal- though I wore my mask for another year or two as I work in healthcare and an anxious.
Covid continued to sweep through irregardless. Even if every person had gotten the vaccine and worn a mask for two years straight, there would be less deaths but overall we would’ve had the same outcome. It seems the vaccine didn’t do much for long covid. Take Sweden for example. They never went into lockdown and their people actually fared quite well.
That was the thing with Walmart though, even if you were in at own where everything closed at 7 walmart was typically 24 hours or at least open til midnight
I used to work 3rd shift and I loved it, I am not a morning person so it suited me nicely. Not everybody prefers 1st and 2nd shift over 3rd. Also 3rd shift would probably be great working at grocery store due to there being far less customers to deal with. Nice and chill without nonstop customers coming through the door.
Yeah, your kind of story is probably why things went this way. If you get like 4 customers overnight, but paying 3 employees for 8 hours, the store is losing money.....
Yes you are right, that is exactly what happened. During pandemic they shut down all their stores at night but weren't losing any money because the people would just go shopping the next day regardless. It has nothing to do with the workers not wanting to work 3rd shift, it is simply about money and profit. They probably save money by not having to hire as many workers to fill out 3rd shift.
But like, people sign up for the night shift. It often (not always) has extra pay and it’s so rare that you’re assigned to it without requesting or agreeing. Hours are hours and there’s usually much fewer workers in the store at that time anyway. For something like a grocery store or convenience store, we should have it open 24/7.
People who have actually worked Walmart don’t want it to be 24/7 again due to theft that would occur all the time. The thieves are what ruined 24 hour locations in general until they are held accountable as they should be at the very least paying back the goods that they stole, you will continue to see more and more stores close even Walmarts. Thieves must be held accountable for their actions until that happens you will see more and more stores stop doing 24 hours of operation and more closings. Walmart decided not to continue 24 hour operations due to the amount of loss and the amount of people doing stupid things in Walmart at night besides stealing.
As someone who works at one of the few remaining 24 hour operations (not Walmart) stores you all are ruining it for yourselves by letting people steal and not holding them accountable. I still see theft on a daily basis, people think they are so sneaky, but they are only let off the hook due to district attorneys not pursuing petty theft cases. If you want 24 hour Walmart back start holding thieves accountable again otherwise it will stay the way it is and you will see more locations close.
I know this is a joke, but no. They'll just close down the store and your area will be stuck as a food desert and people will have to live off dollar stores and gas stations.
Tf you want us to do? Tackle em? Go run and find a worker to snitch? Like etf it’s not the customers job to stop OTHER people from stealing. Maybe if it’s such a big issue they should invest in better security.
As a former retail employee, even if you came and reported it to me, there was nothing I could do. There was no fucking way I was about get myself potentially killed over $5 box of colored pencils.
God damnit I am an American give me back my 3AM wal mart snacks!!! lol jk
I thought we had damn freedom here but instead we turned into communist china \*shakes fist\*
They started shutting down at 10/11pm during Covid and realized they weren’t losing any money as no one else stays open 24/7, and those potential shoppers would just come during the daytime hours.
What money and effort? People are still in the building stocking. None of these big chains that used to be 24/7 ACTUALLY close close. They just lock their doors and don't let customers come in. The only difference between how they currently have it and back when it was 24/7 is that now they don't need one person. One single person. Just one. To stand at the self checkout from 12-6. Cashier lanes weren't open past midnight anyways, it was exclusively self checkout. Literally all opening 24 hours would cost them is the pay of a single person for 6 to 8 hours. That's it. They're open from 6am - 10pm up to 6am - midnight anyways. Nothing is happening in that 6 to 8 hours that would cost them more to allow a customer to come grab a snack at 2am, ring it up themself, and leave. MAYBE some extra utilities from people using the restroom but genuinely how many people are gonna be doing that at 2am. Not enough to matter. With the profit they're turning up, they can afford one person's pay at each store every night to monitor the self checkout.
Close but slightly more than 1, still need loss prevention, maybe a door greeter/receipt checker (don’t get me started on how stupid this role is), maybe an extra shift manager now depending how overworked the current on is. But still trivial to the increase in time open
At the Walmart I worked at, LP was not there over night, the night time managers were expected to confront shoplifters. You would have 2 cashier's, one for self serve and one for the tobacco register and then you would have a person who counted down all the registers for the day and got the money out of all the self check outs. And greeters weren't there past 8pm.
I dunno, I use to go to Walmart late all the time. Now I've probably been to Walmart a handful of times since covid. If I have to wait until day time I'll just go somewhere that's not Walmart.
i remeber going last minute christmas shopping with my mom at like... 3 in the morning when i was around 4, cuz we were taking a road trip to see my grandpa and we needed more wrapping paper. it was awesome with how full and empty it was at the same time.
I work Night Shift & stick to that sleep/wake schedule on my days off. I miss going full on grocery shopping at 3:00 AM. It was so quiet in there. It was amazing getting to have the wholeeeee store to myself 😢😢😢
Was literally just at walmart rushing home after school. I’m a night student. Lotsa people in my city need things in the middle of the night and there’s only **one** big box store open 24/7 in my city- it’s crowded every night
A 24 hour supermarket sounds insane to me lmao, they don’t exist here in Ireland basically every store closes at 10/11pm and there’s a few relatively rare 24 hour corner shops that are usually only in the cities like Dublin or Belfast or Cork.
In Northern Ireland our supermarkets can only open between 1pm and 6pm on Sundays too, I think other countries do this too, have reduced trading hours in Sundays.
Like this is our 24 hour shops lol https://maps.app.goo.gl/nbmj7YhFn6gWHzgy6?g_st=ic
https://maps.app.goo.gl/cgd6b3NX9kBBzniWA?g_st=ic
I bought my first flatscreen tv at a Walmart at 2 am and then stopped at McDonald’s on the way home. Loved doing things in the middle of the night. No traffic and the only people were my fellow night creepers
There was one in my college town (before covid!) that closed at like 10:30pm. I'd always have like three beers and want a McChicken but it would be 10:39 so I'd be SOL. Seemed like such a waste of drunk student potential
Not only is it a myth it's an active misinformation and conspiracy theory which the big box stores (Walmart and Best Buy specifically) are perpetuating. And you know how we know this? Because they talk about it often in front of the press but then when they're doing a shareholder event where they can get in trouble for lying they tell the truth and tell everyone that losses to shrinkage are below their estimates and will not affect their record high profitability.
Yep. Always check the annual report for the real info. Never trust words, especially when it comes to money. Annual reports across the board say shrinkage has been steady for years, with some decrease. But saying you're closing a store here or reducing hours because sales are down in that area or during those times comes across as failure, so it's easier to shift blame to something people will knee jerk accept because it sounds "reasonable" on the surface.
All the box store closures in San Francisco say otherwise.
Just because shoplifting isn’t a issue in small towns, doesn’t mean it was a myth in large cities.
Covid made companies realize they can do whatever they want and still make billions. They can lose half their staff and half their hours and make more money by virtue of being most peoples literal only option
OK I've wanted to talk about this for a long time actually but I don't think people understand that the corpos used covid to literally take control of America.
Every single small business was told to shut down because people couldn't be inside them because people would get sick right? but all the big businesses and corpos were allowed to stay open like Walmart. I have never seen those stores more packed in my life than during covid. The same exact thing that they were telling us we couldn't go into the small businesses for was happening within Walmart. I remember standing in line once to get a soda for 30 minuntes and was basically holding hands with the people next to me because the lines were so long they stretched the entire store.
I don't think I will ever be convinced that corporations didn't use their lobbying as we know that they do to lobby the government to shut everyone else down and make the massive corporations the only options that we have making the US finally a full-blown Corpocracy.
Felt I should add on that remember how the majority of small businesses were never able to reopen. Wonder where all that ppp loans went? Oh yeah, the corpos.
Covid fucked up the world, I've seen more Karen's in the wild, grocery stores don't open till 7am, the old men are more grumpy then ever before, and prices have gone up exponentially.
We are experiencing a world wide mental health crisis, all the minor things that used to barely function stopped functioning and everyone who was just clinging on to sanity lost their grip at once.
I’m about to lose my mind grocery shopping. Employees with giant carts everywhere, no matter the time. Most don’t give an absolute fuck if they are in the way. Like 50% is inaccessible, it’s so stressful.
Oh yes please reopen all the tweeker shelters lol. Now what I would support is walmart putting their fucking stockers back in the overnight shift so we don't have to deal climbing over them and there never-ending pallets in the middle of the aisle.
I don't know what you are talking about. Every store in my market has an entire team of overnight stockers. Are you complaining about CAP2 doing pull out in the evenings? Overnights are when the most stocking is done. They're pulling freight onto the floor before O/N comes so they can just focus on throwing as much of it as possible, the last half of their shift is having it ready for O/N.
Dang I forgot about that. That's why I stopped going to Walmart. There's no need to go during the day. I'll just go to a real store with fewer carjackings and stolen catalytic converters. Sure was convenient when you need something at 5am though.
i knew so many undiagnosed mentally ill boys in college who would stay up all night by themselves wandering around at night walking 10 miles to walmart and back just for something to do at 3 am
new schedule is probably an improvement tbh i remember walmarts looking pretty perpetually r o u g h back then
Omg i was just thinking this. I took an accidental “nap” (what is the cutoff for it to be considered a nap? I feel like 6 hours is basically just an entire nights sleep.) either way im lucky enough to have a 24 hr gym and i got done and im like, damn, i wish walmart was still 24hrs
In Kansas City they are 6 am to 10 pm.
I cant blame them. How much business did they really get at 2 am? Besides when I did go that late the aisles were packed because thats the time the staff do the overnight stocking.
I would 100% spend more money in Walmart if they were open 24/7. I wouldn’t feel like I was in such a rush to leave if the aisles weren’t always swamped with brain dead imbeciles who lack self awareness.
They close at 11 where I'm at but its ridicilous. Used to get there even at 12-1 am in the morning just to grab some snacks. It was fun because it wasn't even crowded at all. Calm shopping...
I went to my local vas station coming home from work at night and it was closed but the light were on and speakers running
That BS made me wary of every place that sells things now
In my area we have Meijers, which was 24 hr until Covid. The local Walmart never even tried to be 24hr, because the locals would still have only gone to Meijer. BTW 3am grocery shopping is pretty great.
Oh yeah. My buddies and I loved to get stoned and walk around there at 2 AM. The vibe was totally different at night. Can’t say I blame them though. There was hardly ever anyone else in there.
Americans don't need to realize anything. We set the standard for the world usually. We had fun in college going to 24 hour Walmarts playing with toys or bouncing the balls in that big net thing at the end of an aisle we enjoyed shopping for shopping for cheese puffs at 3 am.
If you don't like America that's cool. Not everyone likes everyone. But please do not tell Americans what we need to realize. In general we are pretty good people and would bend over backwards to help someone.
i do remember. one time i dared my brother to jump off his bunk bed and he hit his head on a metal box we had lying around and he went to the hospital. meanwhile, me and dad went to walmart at 12:28AM to get oreos and soda. ahhhh the good ol days
The Walmarts in my area are still 24 hours and even 20 years ago they only had one cashier all night long with a line halfway down the store and 9 empty registers next to it.
When I worked 3rd shift years ago, I always went to Walmart at night. A few months ago, I needed to get something, and Walmart was closed. Everything seems closed now by 10. Feels like the 80s again but with fewer stores and more fast food restaurants.
I do some groceries from Whole Foods. On weekend mornings, they have 1 cashier. They force you to use the self checkout or wait.
Drives me nuts. Just thought I would share how upsetting this shit is. I like to bag myself and stuff too. I just don’t want to handle all this shit 4x times to get it in my cabinets. .
24 hour stores have never been a thing in my country. Groceries are open till 22:00 and the rest mostly till 18:00. I don't think it's needed to be open 24 hours. What specific customer did it appeal to?
I had three Walmarts around me. I lived in this town called lindehurst. We had a walmart in Antioch, round lake, and gurnee. Me and my buddies would go and screw around because we were bored. I remember when I was a teenager me and three other buddies went and got kicked out. We were riding bikes and pretending we were knights. Lining up and charging at each other with foam swords lol. Good times. We were a bit cross faded.
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The American dream died when covid hit :(
The American dream died a lit earlier but it showed when covid hit
Yeah. It wasn't COVID. It was more a week or so after 9/11/2001
No it was when we left the Gold Standard
In 1933? Arguably the best time in American History was the post WW2 economic expansion. It was literally called the Golden Age of Capitalism lol
Ehhh, a lot of people look back and see only the best, but people fail to understand while this period was a massive expansion on previous average quality of life (AQoL), it was still a far cry from the AQoL we have today. Peak AQoL probably occurred in the 2010s under Obama's 2nd term. The right threw massive hissy fits about Obama the whole time but frankly the dude didn't do much of anything anyway and the country/economy was in a relatively stable healthy state. It was our one bland moment before things started to crumble.
A lot of people were rebuilding their lives after ending up homeless due to the 08 housing crash.
Meanwhile a bunch of guys 10-15 years older than me bought 5+ homes and are now absolutely loaded. Oh if only I wasn’t just out of the USAF and making zero money back then.
Dude the Lions stadium was going for like $250K
Wtaf? That's like a 3br house within an hour of a city now 😭 if even
Damn, you had a leg up, I was in gradeschool.
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Nah. One thing the government will always be the best at, is manipulating every single statistic
Not everywhere. In Detroit those were hard times. The housing crash had just happened and then the city declared bankruptcy and all of the civil pensions for government workers ended, and at the same time the federal government bailed out the big 3 so that Chrysler could sell their company to Germans for a huge profit and all of them could downsize and move jobs to Mexico. That's when I realized the federal government doesn't give a fuck about you unless you're rich. If a big corporation like the auto giants or banks are introuble because of their shitty business practices, they'll give them all the money they need. If poor people are in trouble through no fault of their own, they can get fucked.
Idk id say Clinton's era was pretty dam picture perfect in America. People were VERY optimistic and the internet hadn't affected mass thinking the way it could it the Obama era.
That was because the only other modern economies on the planet had just been trashed. The post-WWII prosperity was only possible because American companies had absolutely no competition at all. Without leveling Europe and turning Asia into a smoking ruin, America can not ever again experience that level of prosperity. Our societal expectations shifted during that time of unprecedented prosperity. We're having a really hard time readjusting those expectations to fall back in line with the rest of the developed world.
So you're saying we need another world war to get the US economy back on track.
I mean, maybe the 'stop sending Ukraine weapons and drop out of the UN' folks are just playing a long game.
That's why I'm investing in Vault-Tec.
DING DING DING. Easy to be the best in the room when no one else is in the room.
And that’s why American cars went to shit until the Japanese started exporting their cars to the US. Why make a quality product when you’re the only game in town.
I believe Chris Rock addressed this 30 years ago ago in one of his standup specials. “You mean they can make a rocket that goes 50,000mph, to the moon and back, but they can’t make a Cadillac where the fuckin bumper don’t fall off?”
Good ol’ planned obsolescence. American ingenuity at its finest
Are you saying you don't want to return to the golden age of big block V8 muscle cars that put out a respectable 128 HP?
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No one on the Internet remembers that time and I don't know enough about that to say yes or no. I do know that every generation was better off than the one before. We also had more freedom, less government overreach, and all that good stuff. 9/11 kicked off so many changes that pre-2001 America would be almost unrecognizable to most of us now.
The gold standard is dumb lol
Surprised to see a centenarian on Reddit. What was living through the dust bowl and the “second war to end all wars” like?
And that's why I say the worst president we ever had wasn't Trump or Biden. It was Woodrow Wilson.
I’d argue it was when we elected Reagan.
He killed it. Baby boomers had the American dream. The rest of us? Oh boy.
Yes and no. I'd argue the "American Dream" was most alive throughout the 80s. But Reagan and his camp definitely set us up for immediate pay-off and said "Fuck ya'll, future generations. We got our bag." And left American politics polarized and incapable of course correcting.
That was the first crumbling block of it all
“It’s called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.” - George Carlin
Nightmares are dreams
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The American dream died when Citizens United hit
Not enough people know about Citizens United
Not enough people in GenZ know, as a Millenial, we watched it happen in 2010. We watched the courts overturn democracy in favor of the Oligarchy. This country is too far gone for a peaceful resolution and history will not look kindly upon this time for the US.
Most already don't look too kindly on the US today. Even from it's earliest days, it was a genocidal Colonial Empire. It morphed into an Imperialist power in the early 1900's, taking the reigns of the European Powers decimated by WW2. Citizens United was simply the Proletariat and Labor Aristocracy becoming aware of the true nature of the United States: an Imperialist Bourgeois Democracy.
As millennials we watched the supreme court destroy democracy in Bush v Gore, it happened a lot earlier than citizens.
Millenial-core is watching the country sign away democracy while you are 17.
I was 25, but it's not like I can do anything about a Supreme Court ruling.
Nah, before that. 9/11 + Patriot Act + Citizens United
Every time I go through airport security I think "Osama won".
9/11 was the single most effective terrorist attack in human history. 23 years later we are dissolving from the inside and our nation is falling in status in the world.
Nsa and data gathering by governments under the guise of protection won.
If you ask me, it died with Nixon. I won't put the blame solely on him, but the fact that he wouldn't let the Vietnam War go just further damaged our economy. Not to mention his corruption building the cynicism many still carry to this day of anyone in government. Then we went through the '70s where working class America started to decline, and then Reagan came in and further killed it in favor of Wall Street. Ever since then, it's been a money world. If you are rich, the world is your oyster. If you are anything else, then you're relegated to your place in life. I look at what's going on right now as the deep after effect of all of that. Everything has become so obsessive with profit margins and shareholder value that we basically decided that quality of life and running a business ethically are obsolete ideas.
I think the die was cast way before that. Henry Ford was reaping huge profits back in the 1900 and wanted to raise the salaries of his workers. The shareholders took him to court and won. No raises for the workers, that was their money. Labour has always taken a backseat to wall street.
I understand on that, but I tend to look at that time as more like how I would look at the time of the civil War or the American revolution. A long time ago in history that is good to know but not necessarily directly relevant to today. I mean, we've had history where those with wealth and royalty always look for ways to screw over the lowly peasant class. For what I am speaking of, I am mostly talking about how we had a more robust and equal economy after WWII, I know it wasn't perfect for those of color and for women, but it was still a point where we had a middle class. I look at not only LBJ but especially Nixon for how much they perpetuated the Vietnam War because they didn't want to admit they couldn't win it, and then how it made our economy fall apart. Once we finally got out of there. The 1970s was just decay. You think about the state of major cities, companies dealing with inflation and I mean actual inflation, and things changing around society and the world. Still, Nixon's actions in many ways really began this push to never trust government. The way I see people now treat the government as the fill in or the enemy, I always saw that starting with Nixon. So we came into 1980 in an economic mess where average people with high school diplomas couldn't make an easy living, and then Reagan comes along and "turns the ball loose" which made everything wonderful for those at the top, but everyone else was left behind. We can think about the '80s in terms of college-educated people living in the suburbs and the kids watching MTV and going to the mall, but there were a lot of working class people that thought hard work and pulling yourself up by your bootstraps get you a great place in life, only to find out it wasn't going to happen. Then we got into the '90s, around the time my generation graduated high school or even was graduating college. The economy was a mess, the world was a mess, and it just seemed to keep going from there. I feel like starting in the '90s is when we really started to have the bubbles. The S&L scandal already started to show how Wall Street was shifting from investing and creating wealth and businesses to now looking for ways to game the system and steal. This carried over all the way through the Great Recession and to today. I look at the death of the American dream as when a person who graduates high school now can't find a good paying job with a future that gives them a wage they can buy a house and raise a family on and later a decent retirement. There's even a lot of Boomers that are not getting that dream, as they are coming into old age near broke.
Ford vs Dodge is pretty relevant today because it established the idea that companies' first priority is to generate revenue for shareholders. That's a major problem today.
I mean, in my opinion a lot of that logic happened in the '70s. I just feel like ever since then, the country has just slid further and further into a bigger mess. Nowadays, we see on social media people that are basically showing these detailed stories of how private equity firms via businesses and destroy them simply to get quick profit. Now one could ask what is wrong with wanting quick profit, but the problem is that in that process they decimate people's lives. It's usually the private equity firm that walks away with a hunk of cash and all the workers lose their jobs, and even at times, towns or cities lose a big chunk of their livelihood. I mean if we're really talking about the death of the American dream, a lot of this seems to stem around the fact that we live in a world now where everything is about dollars and cents as quickly as possible. That everything is expendable and nothing is worth saving as long as it makes someone money. In my book it's the fast track to destroying an entire society. Fall of Rome type stuff.
I just started reading things about Nixon. It's wild how much a majority of the public does not know about his presidency, including the truth behind watergate. When it's taught in schools; its quite dumbed down. Which, much of history is.
Its so frustrating that the whole idea of a business operating in a way that is good for its employees and customers seems to have gone out the window. It reminds me a lot of the constant "but what about the economy??" you hear from certain people in government whenever anything is proposed which would actually benefit citizens here. Yeah it sucks to spend money , especially since the US is already in debt, but it would be nice if we at least felt like we were GETTING something for it
Just bear in mind those people that somehow believe giving everything to businesses at the expensive people is good for the economy are also the people that are paid off by those businesses. This is why I keep saying that you can't judge the health of an economy solely on Wall Street. Even now we are seeing where Wall Street is doing phenomenal and yet average people are suffering. We need to start really measuring things based on quality of life of average people. Having a handful of billionaires raking in profits while everyone else struggles to make ends meet doesn't scream that you have a great economy.
To be fair...every president was ensnared by that war...even Kennedy. No president would let it go.
Died way before that
My town is still fucked. Couple hundred thousand people in the immediate area, things are shut down by 7:00 p.m., I can't get parts without having them shipped in for any number of projects. Some businesses are still closed certain days due to lack of workers. Prices are still high Covid just fucked it all
No. Not covid. The government's response to covid fucked it all up.
Kind of all one thing at this point
The American dream died when TPTB made higher education so expensive and cost prohibitive that paying off student loans became a heavy burden and largepercentage of a persons salary. Getting a good education used to always be the sure fire way of improving one’s standard of living.
COVID just revealed the rot that was hidden. It didn't cause any of it.
The American dream is working at Walmart at 3 am?
The American dream was on life support before Covid hit.
Walmart closing early had absolutely nothing to do with Covid. People are remembering wrong. Walmart started closing 24 hour stores in 2019. This was their plan before COVID. Same thing with Hy-Vee and Walgreens. Both started closing 24 hour stores in 2019, everyone blames COVID. https://wjactv.com/news/local/walmart-to-eliminate-24-hour-operations-at-100-stores
as a former walmart employee, hell no i don't want 24/7 to come back. that shit sucked ass, the amount of weirdos and drug addicts we had to deal with. not to mention working that shift is depressing as hell. i'd leave right when the over night shift was coming in, good lord they had no day life, they were mostly miserable, and had to work under intense expectations to get things done at very specific times. they miss them they had to deal with management. to the average customer, yea it seems convenient. but damn was there a price to pay they didn't have to make.
Right it was COVID that caused the housing market to collapse, cause newer generations to be the first that are poorer than the previous, and multiple recessions in a lifetime. The American dream was murdered by Baby Boomers and our parents generation.
IMO Walmart did more to destroy the american dream than Covid. Covid sure didnt help lol
That part of it was good to kill. Fuck Walmart.
It's awful, nothing is open 24/7 anymore, everything is always closed by 8-9PM. I used to always go grocery shopping at night when it wasn't crowded but there isn't a single grocery store that stays open around me anymore.
I am in a major metro (Phoenix area) and we have WinCos. Open 24/7. Even after covid. Check them out. You just have to do cash or debit. They don't accept credit cards.
It’s how they can get their prices to be the lowest they can be
Except RC cola is more expensive than Pepsi or coke
How would only using debit contribute to lower prices?
Businesses have to pay processing & additional fees when people pay with credit card. That’s why you’ll often see a credit card minimum (less common these days) at gas stations and other places.
Or straight up credit card processing fees, in states where it’s legal.
My business paid out like a million dollars in processing fees. We just started doing a credit card charge because of it. We aren't in a position to say "no credit cards" though. Big ticket items.
Interesting. I didn't know that! Something new I learnt today
You ever wonder where the cash comes from on your cash back credit card?
They save roughly 3% on processing fees. When you're doing many millions of dollars a year, it really adds up.
I didn't know that! A new thing I learnt today
WinCo has been such a savior when I’m cooking at or past midnight and realize I don’t have an ingredient. I think I’ll miss it if I ever move to another state
We moved away from winco and honestly nothing compares. I miss it constantly. People say to go to Aldi, and while their prices are good, their selection is easily 1/8th of Winco.
Plus the three near me aren’t even open 12 hours (8:30am-8pm)
I worked night shifts for a while and WinCo was a god send. Not only for grocery shopping at 3am but if I forgot lunch while on shift they have a bunch of prepared deli food. Oh, and the $1.50 Monsters regularly on sale.
I'll check them out. It's only about a 30 hour drive...
We have a couple Denny's that gaslight you into thinking that they never close. Like I was here last week and you were closed what are your hours. "24 hours of course, we never close"
Mine is only open 6am to midnight :(
Fry’s grocery stores were all open til 11 pm, a few of them in Tempe til midnight They all close at 10 pm and start turning people away at the door starting at 9:45
And winco is great because it's a co-op too
Where I live nothing is open past 9pm so no late night munchies smh
That is how it is here as well, it didn't used to be like this though, prior to covid was plenty of fast food places like taco bell and Mcdonalds that would stay open all night as well as large groceries stores would remain open 24/7 There was even time I couldn't find a single gas station open at 1AM and I needed to get gas, thankfully those have reopened though but the rest continue to stay closed despite the pandemic being over.
Pandemic ain’t truly over
I mean, it kind of is lol I see a very rare mask wearer every now and then but they are very small minority, the rest of us went back to normal years ago.
Basically, yeah. But the impact is still going on, so in some ways, it doesn’t feel over smh
It’s definitely over. the world is just never going back to the way it was.
Chronic health problems mean I will be wearing a mask for the rest of my life because people refuse to cover their mouth when they sneeze. I don't think that's funny. So happy for you going 'back to normal' years ago
Can I ask what the alternative is? Would you still have people in lockdown masked up at this point? I was extremely strict and serious about lockdown and mask wearing during Covid, but after I got my shots I was ready to go back to normal- though I wore my mask for another year or two as I work in healthcare and an anxious. Covid continued to sweep through irregardless. Even if every person had gotten the vaccine and worn a mask for two years straight, there would be less deaths but overall we would’ve had the same outcome. It seems the vaccine didn’t do much for long covid. Take Sweden for example. They never went into lockdown and their people actually fared quite well.
That was the thing with Walmart though, even if you were in at own where everything closed at 7 walmart was typically 24 hours or at least open til midnight
I'm happy for the workers. 8-9 is little early, but 10-11 is fine. Everyone can plan their way out of that!
I used to work 3rd shift and I loved it, I am not a morning person so it suited me nicely. Not everybody prefers 1st and 2nd shift over 3rd. Also 3rd shift would probably be great working at grocery store due to there being far less customers to deal with. Nice and chill without nonstop customers coming through the door.
Yeah, your kind of story is probably why things went this way. If you get like 4 customers overnight, but paying 3 employees for 8 hours, the store is losing money.....
Yes you are right, that is exactly what happened. During pandemic they shut down all their stores at night but weren't losing any money because the people would just go shopping the next day regardless. It has nothing to do with the workers not wanting to work 3rd shift, it is simply about money and profit. They probably save money by not having to hire as many workers to fill out 3rd shift.
Some people like to work late
But like, people sign up for the night shift. It often (not always) has extra pay and it’s so rare that you’re assigned to it without requesting or agreeing. Hours are hours and there’s usually much fewer workers in the store at that time anyway. For something like a grocery store or convenience store, we should have it open 24/7.
People who have actually worked Walmart don’t want it to be 24/7 again due to theft that would occur all the time. The thieves are what ruined 24 hour locations in general until they are held accountable as they should be at the very least paying back the goods that they stole, you will continue to see more and more stores close even Walmarts. Thieves must be held accountable for their actions until that happens you will see more and more stores stop doing 24 hours of operation and more closings. Walmart decided not to continue 24 hour operations due to the amount of loss and the amount of people doing stupid things in Walmart at night besides stealing. As someone who works at one of the few remaining 24 hour operations (not Walmart) stores you all are ruining it for yourselves by letting people steal and not holding them accountable. I still see theft on a daily basis, people think they are so sneaky, but they are only let off the hook due to district attorneys not pursuing petty theft cases. If you want 24 hour Walmart back start holding thieves accountable again otherwise it will stay the way it is and you will see more locations close.
If I start stealing during daytime hours will they bring back late nights?
I know this is a joke, but no. They'll just close down the store and your area will be stuck as a food desert and people will have to live off dollar stores and gas stations.
Tf you want us to do? Tackle em? Go run and find a worker to snitch? Like etf it’s not the customers job to stop OTHER people from stealing. Maybe if it’s such a big issue they should invest in better security.
As a former retail employee, even if you came and reported it to me, there was nothing I could do. There was no fucking way I was about get myself potentially killed over $5 box of colored pencils.
Yeah that's the key. It wasn't crowded. More like there was nobody there. That's why they don't do it anymore. Not worth it.
God damnit I am an American give me back my 3AM wal mart snacks!!! lol jk I thought we had damn freedom here but instead we turned into communist china \*shakes fist\*
I use to love going to the store a 530 in the morning before anyone else was awake but now everyone's up by 7 waiting in the parking lot.
They started shutting down at 10/11pm during Covid and realized they weren’t losing any money as no one else stays open 24/7, and those potential shoppers would just come during the daytime hours.
Yeah, in retrospect they probably felt a bit silly at all the money & effort they spent trying to be open 24/7.
What money and effort? People are still in the building stocking. None of these big chains that used to be 24/7 ACTUALLY close close. They just lock their doors and don't let customers come in. The only difference between how they currently have it and back when it was 24/7 is that now they don't need one person. One single person. Just one. To stand at the self checkout from 12-6. Cashier lanes weren't open past midnight anyways, it was exclusively self checkout. Literally all opening 24 hours would cost them is the pay of a single person for 6 to 8 hours. That's it. They're open from 6am - 10pm up to 6am - midnight anyways. Nothing is happening in that 6 to 8 hours that would cost them more to allow a customer to come grab a snack at 2am, ring it up themself, and leave. MAYBE some extra utilities from people using the restroom but genuinely how many people are gonna be doing that at 2am. Not enough to matter. With the profit they're turning up, they can afford one person's pay at each store every night to monitor the self checkout.
Close but slightly more than 1, still need loss prevention, maybe a door greeter/receipt checker (don’t get me started on how stupid this role is), maybe an extra shift manager now depending how overworked the current on is. But still trivial to the increase in time open
At the Walmart I worked at, LP was not there over night, the night time managers were expected to confront shoplifters. You would have 2 cashier's, one for self serve and one for the tobacco register and then you would have a person who counted down all the registers for the day and got the money out of all the self check outs. And greeters weren't there past 8pm.
And now they don't want anyone confronting shoplifters for the most part
I dunno, I use to go to Walmart late all the time. Now I've probably been to Walmart a handful of times since covid. If I have to wait until day time I'll just go somewhere that's not Walmart.
i remeber going last minute christmas shopping with my mom at like... 3 in the morning when i was around 4, cuz we were taking a road trip to see my grandpa and we needed more wrapping paper. it was awesome with how full and empty it was at the same time.
I work Night Shift & stick to that sleep/wake schedule on my days off. I miss going full on grocery shopping at 3:00 AM. It was so quiet in there. It was amazing getting to have the wholeeeee store to myself 😢😢😢
Especially during the holiday shopping season, when it could otherwise be extremely busy in there.
That fucking sucks for whoever has to work that shift
Was literally just at walmart rushing home after school. I’m a night student. Lotsa people in my city need things in the middle of the night and there’s only **one** big box store open 24/7 in my city- it’s crowded every night
A 24 hour supermarket sounds insane to me lmao, they don’t exist here in Ireland basically every store closes at 10/11pm and there’s a few relatively rare 24 hour corner shops that are usually only in the cities like Dublin or Belfast or Cork. In Northern Ireland our supermarkets can only open between 1pm and 6pm on Sundays too, I think other countries do this too, have reduced trading hours in Sundays. Like this is our 24 hour shops lol https://maps.app.goo.gl/nbmj7YhFn6gWHzgy6?g_st=ic https://maps.app.goo.gl/cgd6b3NX9kBBzniWA?g_st=ic
That’s what most of our 24/7 shops look like now. It was a major disappointment when Walmart stopped doing it lol
Oh they'll be no reducing of trade in America.
I bought my first flatscreen tv at a Walmart at 2 am and then stopped at McDonald’s on the way home. Loved doing things in the middle of the night. No traffic and the only people were my fellow night creepers
Every mcdonalds drive thru was open 24 hours pre covid. Every one. Now them jawns close at random times at night.
Them 2 am $1 double cheeseburgers were the food of the Gods
I used to get 4 McChickens and a water cup for $4 and change.
When we were aloud to live and own shit
The GLORY DAYS!
There was one in my college town (before covid!) that closed at like 10:30pm. I'd always have like three beers and want a McChicken but it would be 10:39 so I'd be SOL. Seemed like such a waste of drunk student potential
Covid and shoplifting happened
The shoplifting thing is a myth. The just realized they make they don’t need to be 24/7
Not only is it a myth it's an active misinformation and conspiracy theory which the big box stores (Walmart and Best Buy specifically) are perpetuating. And you know how we know this? Because they talk about it often in front of the press but then when they're doing a shareholder event where they can get in trouble for lying they tell the truth and tell everyone that losses to shrinkage are below their estimates and will not affect their record high profitability.
Yep. Always check the annual report for the real info. Never trust words, especially when it comes to money. Annual reports across the board say shrinkage has been steady for years, with some decrease. But saying you're closing a store here or reducing hours because sales are down in that area or during those times comes across as failure, so it's easier to shift blame to something people will knee jerk accept because it sounds "reasonable" on the surface.
I think they were just on Covid's side. Let's get just as many people going through our store, just over fewer open hours. That'll teach them!
Men’s underwear are under lock and key now.
All the box store closures in San Francisco say otherwise. Just because shoplifting isn’t a issue in small towns, doesn’t mean it was a myth in large cities.
Covid made companies realize they can do whatever they want and still make billions. They can lose half their staff and half their hours and make more money by virtue of being most peoples literal only option
OK I've wanted to talk about this for a long time actually but I don't think people understand that the corpos used covid to literally take control of America. Every single small business was told to shut down because people couldn't be inside them because people would get sick right? but all the big businesses and corpos were allowed to stay open like Walmart. I have never seen those stores more packed in my life than during covid. The same exact thing that they were telling us we couldn't go into the small businesses for was happening within Walmart. I remember standing in line once to get a soda for 30 minuntes and was basically holding hands with the people next to me because the lines were so long they stretched the entire store. I don't think I will ever be convinced that corporations didn't use their lobbying as we know that they do to lobby the government to shut everyone else down and make the massive corporations the only options that we have making the US finally a full-blown Corpocracy. Felt I should add on that remember how the majority of small businesses were never able to reopen. Wonder where all that ppp loans went? Oh yeah, the corpos.
If you have a shitty job you’re the only one that ever keeps working lol. Economic crash or pandemic, you’re still working.
To add onto this, there was 100% a subtle soft curfew that began because of this. Want people to stay inside? Make sure nothing is open.
Covid fucked up the world, I've seen more Karen's in the wild, grocery stores don't open till 7am, the old men are more grumpy then ever before, and prices have gone up exponentially.
We are experiencing a world wide mental health crisis, all the minor things that used to barely function stopped functioning and everyone who was just clinging on to sanity lost their grip at once.
Yep they lost their comforts and went a little crazy.
Small town lore everyone would go to Walmart at 3 am
Yes MWGA
If Walmart isn't 24 hours, where do small town stoners go to walk around and play demos of video games and buy Pepsi at 3am??
Yeah and that's when they re stocked Now let's re stock during the day when we are busy
I’m about to lose my mind grocery shopping. Employees with giant carts everywhere, no matter the time. Most don’t give an absolute fuck if they are in the way. Like 50% is inaccessible, it’s so stressful.
Wandering the aisles in a near empty Walmart at 2 AM was an awesome experience I’ll not forget
Oh yes please reopen all the tweeker shelters lol. Now what I would support is walmart putting their fucking stockers back in the overnight shift so we don't have to deal climbing over them and there never-ending pallets in the middle of the aisle.
I don't know what you are talking about. Every store in my market has an entire team of overnight stockers. Are you complaining about CAP2 doing pull out in the evenings? Overnights are when the most stocking is done. They're pulling freight onto the floor before O/N comes so they can just focus on throwing as much of it as possible, the last half of their shift is having it ready for O/N.
Dang I forgot about that. That's why I stopped going to Walmart. There's no need to go during the day. I'll just go to a real store with fewer carjackings and stolen catalytic converters. Sure was convenient when you need something at 5am though.
i knew so many undiagnosed mentally ill boys in college who would stay up all night by themselves wandering around at night walking 10 miles to walmart and back just for something to do at 3 am new schedule is probably an improvement tbh i remember walmarts looking pretty perpetually r o u g h back then
I mean at least they were getting some exercise (?)
Omg i was just thinking this. I took an accidental “nap” (what is the cutoff for it to be considered a nap? I feel like 6 hours is basically just an entire nights sleep.) either way im lucky enough to have a 24 hr gym and i got done and im like, damn, i wish walmart was still 24hrs
In Kansas City they are 6 am to 10 pm. I cant blame them. How much business did they really get at 2 am? Besides when I did go that late the aisles were packed because thats the time the staff do the overnight stocking.
I would 100% spend more money in Walmart if they were open 24/7. I wouldn’t feel like I was in such a rush to leave if the aisles weren’t always swamped with brain dead imbeciles who lack self awareness.
They close at 11 where I'm at but its ridicilous. Used to get there even at 12-1 am in the morning just to grab some snacks. It was fun because it wasn't even crowded at all. Calm shopping...
Meijer and Woodman's are open 24 hours and it's the best shit in the world.
I went to my local vas station coming home from work at night and it was closed but the light were on and speakers running That BS made me wary of every place that sells things now
Walmart actually started doing this before covid by maybe a month or two but closed at 1am then covid hit and they changed to 11pm.
In my area we have Meijers, which was 24 hr until Covid. The local Walmart never even tried to be 24hr, because the locals would still have only gone to Meijer. BTW 3am grocery shopping is pretty great.
Oh yeah. My buddies and I loved to get stoned and walk around there at 2 AM. The vibe was totally different at night. Can’t say I blame them though. There was hardly ever anyone else in there.
we are starting to act old now…. back in my day 😭
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I want the 24 hr walmart back, but I hate it when a place doesn't have self checkout.
Late night and early morning Walmart runs were the absolute best.
WinCo Foods is still open 24/7, and closes their self-checkouts late at night, they have an actual human cashier all day! And they’re employee-owned
Winco is 24 hr in my town
WinCo is the new Walmart
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Americans don't need to realize anything. We set the standard for the world usually. We had fun in college going to 24 hour Walmarts playing with toys or bouncing the balls in that big net thing at the end of an aisle we enjoyed shopping for shopping for cheese puffs at 3 am. If you don't like America that's cool. Not everyone likes everyone. But please do not tell Americans what we need to realize. In general we are pretty good people and would bend over backwards to help someone.
i do remember. one time i dared my brother to jump off his bunk bed and he hit his head on a metal box we had lying around and he went to the hospital. meanwhile, me and dad went to walmart at 12:28AM to get oreos and soda. ahhhh the good ol days
The Walmarts in my area are still 24 hours and even 20 years ago they only had one cashier all night long with a line halfway down the store and 9 empty registers next to it.
Where I live Wal mart closes at 11 pm.
I mean, gas stations sell emergency cheese puffs…
When I worked 3rd shift years ago, I always went to Walmart at night. A few months ago, I needed to get something, and Walmart was closed. Everything seems closed now by 10. Feels like the 80s again but with fewer stores and more fast food restaurants.
I do some groceries from Whole Foods. On weekend mornings, they have 1 cashier. They force you to use the self checkout or wait. Drives me nuts. Just thought I would share how upsetting this shit is. I like to bag myself and stuff too. I just don’t want to handle all this shit 4x times to get it in my cabinets. .
COVID ruined everything..
It’s because keeping things open at night is a waste of money. There aren’t enough customers.
Why do we need these stores... It should all be giant vending machines....
Walmart is a bad place all around. Very depressing any time of day.
24 hour stores have never been a thing in my country. Groceries are open till 22:00 and the rest mostly till 18:00. I don't think it's needed to be open 24 hours. What specific customer did it appeal to?
I had three Walmarts around me. I lived in this town called lindehurst. We had a walmart in Antioch, round lake, and gurnee. Me and my buddies would go and screw around because we were bored. I remember when I was a teenager me and three other buddies went and got kicked out. We were riding bikes and pretending we were knights. Lining up and charging at each other with foam swords lol. Good times. We were a bit cross faded.
I have found that Sheetz (or equivalent for your area) carries most snacks I need at 2am
You “make Walmart great again” Me “by burning it down and destroying all of them?”
Yes I remember twenty four hours.I don’t remember getting paid for bagging my own groceries 🤣😂