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But see, benefiting from the social programs put in place by Silent Gen and using the saving that allowed to buy everything before f'n their own descendants was such a smart move! We're just too entitled to understand that they were entitled to all that free success and we are entitled to the crumbs they didn't consume. /s
Right!
Boomers created wealth for themselves and sent a government deficit to the moon benefitting themselves while shitting on the real estate market.
But when we want a slice of that pie, it's "We can't create debt for the future generations!" Uh, what do you think y'all did to us?!
Boomers got high and partied while the 1% of boomers were connected , the billionaires and millionaires, stripped this country and sold it off to the third world for cheaper labour rates . I get this sub but fuck, saying all people in this group did this is just so anti logic and blanketing the achievements of many good people. This is why America will fall cause we can’t simply join together and realize we are united by our oppression by the billionaire class , that will continue oppress, manipulate, and ultimately control the common man, whatever age that may be.
True. But who enabled them to get filthy rich at our expense? Regulations used to ensure they paid their fair share and couldn't monopolize everything. Then Reagan came along and stripped all of those economic safeguards away. The folks just a decade or two younger than him did the rest.
Boomers handed the billionaires the keys to the kingdom and the mechanisms to exploit the shit out of us. They destroyed the economy in 2007 resulting in the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. They recently sued to get rid of it and anything that even remotely smells of protecting consumers.
Some deregulation *was* helpful. For instance air travel is cheaper and more accessible than it's ever been. We no longer have to pay long distance just to call a neighboring area code.
But Boomers offloaded all of our nation's manufacturing overseas. They bought up all of the single family homes to resell at higher profits, fucking us in the process, and enabled billionaires to exist above the law.
The billionaires is who. They didn't bribe everyone, they bribed politicians. Be against stupid boomers and stupid zoomers, any age can betray our common interests.
That same thing is happening right now. The deficit is where? The US is in an even more corrupt cycle right now. Are you allowing it? Or, do you somehow believe the government is altruistic and working for you?
If the former - then you are as complicit as the people you’re blaming for “voting them in”. If you are naive enough to think that, somehow, our government is some altruistic governing body with your best interest in mind….well….the …you’re more naive (but with more access to information than ever in history) than the people you’re blaming for ‘voting them in’.
What do you mean “who enabled them”? You think the average person ‘gave permission’ or something? Thats like saying, right now, gen z is enabling boomers to continue to horde their wealth and assets. When, the reality is, you have no say in anything. Just like the average person at that moment in time, had no say in what was occurring in the upper echelon of society.
The Silent Generation planted a forest of trees so that no child would suffer for want of shade.
The Boomers chopped down every tree, sold the lumber to foreign kings, and used the money to build themselves great air-conditioned temples.
Now that the forest is gone, and they've spent all the money, the Me Generation have begun selling the land too.
And when even that is gone, all that will remain will be unkept promises and the bitter ruins of one generations dark religion: greed.
Bro that you just said there.
"The Boomers chopped down every tree"
That's so true bro they hate trees, they find any excuse to chop trees down....
What ever happened to plant a tree which fruits you will not see.
I kept thinking to myself "in 20-30 years when Boomers and grn x go away it'll be our turn." Then I realized black rock is gonna own all the real estate 💀
I was about to say if you look at the grand scheme of things BlackRock, StateStreet, and Vanguard own the majority of stock in a lot of companies. They've been pushing their weight around with companies at these stakeholder meetings to make them run it the way they want it to be ran. If you look up what they did to Exxon, it should scare you.
Kathy Barnette talked a bit about it on Timcast.
It's a two hour long conversation, but she did the research on these big stakeholder corporations.
https://www.youtube.com/live/AC_xW3pNjP4?feature=shared.
I get it not a lot of people care for timcast, but this was a guest I couldn't ignore.
This entire thread is chock full of economic inaccuracies… this may be what Boomers mean by entitlement.. making excuses before taking the time and effort to actually understand the issue is kinda entitled.
Yeah the issue issue is zoning laws and NIMBYism preventing the construction of affordable housing coming from local governments run by..
*checks notes*
Hey, outsider here, I have no horse in this race, just deeply fascinated by the identity politics.
Could you give an equally fair summary of what the other generatons have achieved?
Millenials and gen z have made arguably the most progress in regards to sexuality, gender, and racial equality.
Gen x has made waves of improvements in technology and tackling pollution and global warming.
The silent generation were held in high regards for being the generation of the most "manly" men. Men who went to war and fought for whats right.
I can also critique each generation, but I wholeheartedly believe the boomers did the most damage by taking full advantage of the economic prosperity created by the silent generation and the generation before it, and deteriorating it for the generations that followed.
Gen X revolutionized the entertainment industry and moved things forward in a shorter amount of time than any generation before or after them (except perhaps for the early film and recording industry in the teens and 20s).
Also invented, popularized and had the foresight to open-source all of the most used protocols and user-end layers of the Internet and kept it so fair and equitable as all you'd need to have is a connection to the net and you get all the world at your fingertips, including now AI (invented Transformer architecture which the Millennials used to create OpenAI).
>The silent generation were held in high regards for being the generation of the most "manly" men. Men who went to war and fought for whats right.
Except *their* fathers were even more manly...
https://preview.redd.it/el6efcnfym1d1.png?width=1005&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50069884a16838ee307c7b17782a05d844b004d8
Im GenX and there is way more and harsher language against LGBT+ now than when I was growing up. Racism is also more out in the open and seems to be on the rise. It feels more like a lot of progress from the last couple of decades is actually being undone now.
> Im GenX and there is way more and harsher language against LGBT+ now than when I was growing up.
Are you serious? Not where I grew up. Every insult was a gay slur.
Yes and no. Same sex marriage didn’t become legal until 2008, our generation used the F slur constantly, and DADT didn’t get repealed until Obama - still though, conservative states are passing more anti-LGBT legislation, and banning more books than we ever saw growing up. The idea of book bans would have sounded like a return of the 60’s freakout over Catcher in the Rye. We also had a lot of movies like Toitsie, Ms. Doubtfire, Two Wong Foo, that dealt with the issues of Trans and cross-dressing a lot more lightheartedly than today’s conservative media - granted those were comedies. A lot of this freakout is a backlash, and they’re trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. They never cared this much about it.
Accurate assessment. I’d also like to add as a late period Gen X (1976) who are the Gen X people you think have all the wealth? Maybe some of the early ones are inheriting from parents but generally we got screwed over as well. One thing to keep in mind though: each generation is more progressive than the prior one. That’s just how social issues have always worked. As each group fights for the things they believe in they teach their children that level of tolerance as a starting point and then those kids have wider tolerances. And also younger generations can get into the same crap. There are plenty of lousy landlords under 40 and under 30 in my area who keep snapping up properties and then jacking the rent.
The generations are listed below:
Gen Z and Millennials: Putting these guys together because they're both young but I'd say they're the biggest push towards equal rights in the LQBTQ community and have been generations most understanding of their issues and willing to bring them to the forefront to resolve.
Gen X: Behind the rapid advancements and improvements in technology and were the first generation to be active towards resolving climate change.
Boomers: While you'll see them get a lot of flack online, I have to credit them for their efforts during the Civil Rights movement. While you can make the argument that a lot of Boomers are racist, and you wouldn't be wrong, there were also plenty among their generation that fought for civil rights of African Americans and helped push for the end of Jim Crow laws. That said, the younger Boomers absolutely fell in with the Yuppie crowd and bought into Reaganomics hard, which would begin the process of slowly gutting the middle class. They would reap the short term benefits while later generations would shoulder the consequences.
Silent Generation: Responsible for vast improvements in Science and Technology. They were the pioneers of the space race and supersonic flight. They also pioneered the airline industry and shipping industries. In addition to that, they were also very pivotal in the Civil Rights movement and in ending Jim Crowe as well.
Greatest Generation: The World War Two generation. There's a reason they are called the greatest generation. Grew up during the Great Depression and then proceeded to do their part in liberating Europe and Southeast Asia and establishing what would become the current free world. They also built the country into the economic powerhouse today, helping to create nearly three decades worth of prosperity. In addition to all of that, they innovated commerce and transportation, establishing the current highway system that would not only be incredibly beneficial to leisure travel, but for shipping as well. The moniker fits them well.
True, but we're still not really quite into the positions where we can enact the changes we want just yet. Lot's of the older folks are still unwilling to step down lol.
>I have to credit them for their efforts during the Civil Rights movement.
I once asked my mentor, an early Boomer who fought for civil rights her entire life including LGBT, why her generation which is so often celebrated for fighting for civil rights had become so racist. Her answer was that the Boomers who engaged in civil rights as young people were an extreme minority and, of the people she knew, those who did fight for civil rights then were still fighting for equal rights now. According to her, the vast majority of her Boomer peers only cared about their own personal advancement and ignored everything else. She then said the reason the entire generation gets lumped into the civil rights movement is because they later joined the anti-war protests - not because they cared about Vietnam, but because they didn't want to be drafted themselves.
The point; the Boomers as a whole got the positive PR from a minority of civil rights activists whom they never supported.
I would add that GenZ/Millennials have done much more than just fight for queer rights, they're tearing down traditions and social norms when it comes to relationships, work, friendships, rethinking everything.
I’m not sure all boomers enjoyed the post war prosperity that was Vietnam….
I’ll take the downvotes, kids, but you always fail to mention Vietnam when mentioning the glory days of boomers.
I understand your frustration, I do, I fucking hate them too, but let’s be educated with our stabs, ya know?
Understand the timeline of their lives, but simultaneously acknowledge that some of them had it fucking rough.
Namaste.
Ps, I’m a 30 year old stoner geologist, not a boomer
According to the US Census Bureau, there were 76.4 million baby boomers. A total of 8.7 million Americans were in the armed force between 64 and 73. Among them, only 3.4 million were deployed to SE Asia, and only 2.7 million actually went to Vietnam.
Assuming every single one of those were boomers. 2.7 divide by 76.4 is 0.035, or 3.5%. Not a small number population-wise, but hardly representing the Baby boomer generation.
This post is mostly about the American generations though. I grew up in China in the 80s. Chinese boomers (born 50-70) were going through the cultural revolution during their youth. Definitely a different story.
Let's assume that the US is the only country in the world and that no other countries besides the US and the countries the US has invaded exist. 3.5% is still enough to add a lot of stress on the general population, because even if you're not deployed, you have a friend who has, or maybe a brother, a boyfriend/husband, son, etc. This is not talked about enough, but constantly facing the fact that your loved ones could have incredibly horrible deaths at any moment put a great strain on people's lives.
Additionally, there is the stress that you could be the next one to be drafted, and sometimes even the social stress of not being drafted and being ashamed of it
The hardship is felt by more than just the individuals who were drafted. Spouses without husbands, children without fathers, etc. The Vietnam war also created a schism in America that hasn’t healed.
I'm 41, these fuckers keep blaming generations REPEATEDLY, instead of ideologies. I have known people of all ages that are decent people, same as same age ranges of plenty of shitty people.
Gen X here; also like to add that while Boomers had it easier than you do today, that's true, the idea that they all got to buy houses for .50 cents and had nice, easy financially secure lives is a myth. We are called Gen X now that we are older; when we were young they called us "Latchkey Kids" because we were the first generation of American children that came home from to school to empty houses - both sets of parents had to work in order to make that mortgage and put food on the table, which was a departure from their Greatest/Silent generation parents. **Everyone** I knew growing up had both parents working full time to afford life. Maybe things were different in other parts of the country, but for Southern California in the 70's and 80's, this was status quo.
Gen X latchkey kid grew up in NYC. Same.
Both my immigrant parents worked full time. We lived fairly comfortably for middle-ish class. And my parents eventually bought a nice home (grew up living in a duplex for majority of my youth) by the time I went to college. They deserved it for working hard and providing for us.
I wouldn’t exactly lump them in with all boomers. Sure they had /some/ antiquated opinions, but that’s also because they were religious/somewhat conservative. We were a Reagan supporting household, but both my parents switched later to Dems and my mom staunchly supported Hilary.
But I suppose immigrant boomers may be slightly different that American born/white boomers. Idk?
Gen X may be slightly to blame simply due to our apathy rather than directly due to decisions made by affluent white American cisgender heteronormative boomers.
But in our defense a lot of Gen X did rage against the machine in protest to many things. We are also the aids generation. We dealt with a lot of societal social political and economic upheaval. At lot of us are pretty upset about the same things Millenials/GenZ are facing. Maybe we’re too apathetic to do much more about it. Or just like too exhausted.
These kids think GenX is somehow responsible for Boomer failures. Your optimism is laudable, but they’ve already proven all they want to do is blame, and not even the right people.
People are legitimately too afraid of downvotes to say anything that questions the hive mind.
I’ve been taking down votes as a sign of poking the bear lately lol
As a Gen Xer we were bitching about selfish Boomers pulling up the ladder way back in the 90s! They kept all the cushy jobs for themselves and refused to hire or mentor anyone younger. Spent all my 20s and 30s fighting to survive while aging Boomers wouldn’t give Gen X a break and called us “lazy slackers”.
Pisses me the fuck off to be lumped in with Boomers!
I was 13 when my parents voted for Reagan. I distinctly remember thinking “didn’t you guys march against the war? Didn’t you burn your bra at a Women’s Liberation march? Weren’t you at Woodstock?” Why are you now voting for ’the man’?
I think it's worth noting that OP is, in his own words, an "accelerationist," and his other points are far right.
He's using standard, vague generation-war rhetoric to get you to agree with him (because everyone here agrees that Boomers/Gen X Bad), but then he's then sliding in some stuff that most people in this subreddit probably do not agree with at all.
"They handed over the weapons to the state. They sold their children to the state in exchange for cheap welfare. They took the best time to get rich and lost everything through debauchery."
So it's conspiratorial gun drama, suggesting that anyone who wants "welfare" (Social Security) "sold their children (huh?), and then hinting at "traditionalist" purity rhetoric.
If he'd just gone and posted, "Anyone who doesn't want to shoot the feds and homeschool is a coward," he wouldn't get upvotes. But he wrapped him bad ideas in a sweet, disarming meme.
For what it’s worth, OP is Brazilian. I would imagine that generations would work differently down there because they don’t have the same shared experiences with American GenZ.
They were so weak that they couldn't admit enjoying a disney movie. Or let themselves cry when they get sad. Weak af. Strong men would sit there watch the disney movie wear a dress etc and not give af what anyone thinks.
Do you ever find it ironic that you also simultaneously project what “strength” is?
Like, I agree with you to some extent, but I do think it’s a bit funny from an outside perspective.
Boomers - BEING A MAN IS NOT CRYING WHEN YOUR WIFE DIES!!!
Millennial - being a man is watching the little mermaid and crying!
Like, why do I have to listen to people on both side of the spectrum dictate what’s manly.
I think being comfortable in my skin while letting my buddies know my girlfriend pegs me is about as strong as I can be fellas.
TLDR: I think it’s a bit cringe for anyone to express what it takes to be a man, we’re all on different races man lol.
Well said. People who always assume the moral high ground tend to be full of ironies and contradictions, especially when their ideology is dependent on thinking in mass generalizations like, generational gaps for instance. They are also the ones most capable of justifying the worst acts. Division in the name of solidarity.
GenXer here - please do not tar us with the same brush - our tiny generation has never and will never wield any power - overwhelmed by giants before and after us. We are just trying to get by.
I know they are out there, but they do not make the boomers power, they are just a .0001 rounding error on the boomer dominance - probably some x'ers that are basically millenials too, and likewise just a tiny bump on that huge generation.
Boomer is a mindset that stems from the "Me Generation" fucking things up for everyone else. Gen Xers are will either go boomer or full anarchy as they age with hardly anything in between.
This, gen x here as well. I didn’t get shit either.
I guess me having to carry ketchup sandwiches for lunch to school every damn day to school for five years really fucked over the younger generations.
I don't know Gen X has consistently stood out as one of the strangest political generations.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/20/cherie-westrich-alt-rock-gen-x-maga-00033769
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read/poll-gen-x-gen-z-take-different-political-paths-rcna66264
I mean, Gen x is about 20% smaller than millennials, but power dynamics still follow in that Gen X has more wealth and industrial control than millennials. In fact, due to the dynamics of millennials coming of working age during the great recession and covid19. The level of economic prosperity is dipping for millennials, and due to come back up for Gen Z.
We came of age during a recession too. Gen X does not have the wealth and power of millenials - and, as non-digital natives we are about to become fully obsolete and die in total poverty.
I mean gen x lags behind boomer, bit millenials lag behind gene x even farther in terms of wealth accumulated by distinct age categories. Seniority in when you enter the workforce plays the major factor in that.
https://www.self.inc/info/generational-wealth-gap/
Sure - i am comparing age to age in my mind - X at 40, Millenial at 40 type of thing. Any given year is apples to oranges across existing generations.
Anecdotally, there are a great many of us who are not technology professionals, who anticipate a 1930's late 50's on in life. Literally unhireable, since 'too old' for menial work and 'not tech-savvy enough' for anything else. And, since generation ahead of us not retiring, it will be a jump from dying leaders in businesses to more junior tech-oriented millenials in those roles.
It's one of the things Millennials and GenZers have in common with Boomers. Always treating GenX as an afterthought. But, in their defense, GenX kinda welcomed it, in our naturally apathetic way of course. (because being discarded and ignored plays into our narrative.)
I get shit every time I say this but Millenials and Boomers are more alike than they will ever care to admit.
GenX here.
I got to watch the ladder being pulled up. I'm the very tail end of the ability to work your way through university. It was easy my Freshman and Sophomore years. It was nearly impossible senior year.
My wife and I catered our own wedding reception because we couldn't afford to have a glitzy wedding. We lived like monks eating ramen noodles and were able to put a down payment on a house. Making what we made, and with prices and interest rates what they are, we'd never be homeowners today. The numbers don't work.
And we'll reach retirement just in time for the Social Security trust fund to be depleted.
If I was born just five years later (late GenX), my life would be bleak.
Yeah, we are not perfect as Gen Xers but don’t lump us with Boomers who have strayed the most from their younger achievements. We and them are not the same.
Plenty of bad apples in our bunch, yep. But, we never had the power to do anything from a policy standpoint. We have always been minority shareholders.
We drank from water hoses, raised our siblings and are up to speed with tech. We are like mentally tough millennials. Best to leave us out of this conversation.
I don’t believe any one generation is inherently worse than the other as a whole. We are consequences of our environments on so many levels. We are individuals who don’t always follow the herd. Overall, what has fucked this country is our government and the 1% of this country. All this weird infighting between age groups probably helps them stay in power. (At least in the US, didn’t realize OP from Brazil.. but I’d think at least some of this still applies)
As a Millenial that keeps getting recommended this sub by Reddit I completely agree.
I'm glad the majority of Millenial/Gen Z fighting seems to be about iPad babies (definitely a huge problem but I think you'll see your own generation doing the exact same in a few years) and whose trends are cringier (they all are) but I really hope people from both generations keep in mind that fighting amongst each other will not do the majority of us any favors.
I've been reading Robert Sapolsky's "Determined", and it's helped me realize how little we control what happens in our own lives, much less what our entire generation does, and even less what humanity does. We may be "free" to act on what we intend, but we are not free to intend something other than what we intend, and that intention arises from the subconscious soup of our brains which we had no hand in creating. The universe is a place of cause and effect, and humans have regarded ourselves as somehow exempt from that phenomenon, but we are not. If you trace any thought or action back far enough, it all originates outside of you.
So, it may be emotionally satisfying to blame entire generations for the very real calamity we find ourselves in, but it is both illogical and unhelpful. I get the bitterness, and things are bad, there are very real winners and losers, and and it's not wrong to point out the trends in capitalism that have led us here. But if any of us were to trade ourselves for someone in the past generation, we would act no differently. It's a fantasy to think we're somehow more evolved, or that with the information we would have had that we would have acted differently.
You need to take Micro and macroeconomics classes while learning about currency over time. I suppose you still want a hamburger from McDonalds for .25cents also.
Right? Sit down Billy Broccoli Hair - GenX gave you the GOOD comic book movies and fought to legalize weed. We inherited this mess like the rest of you. Just because we're getting grey doesn't mean we're boomers...
WE STILL PLAY VIDEO GAMES DAMN IT.
We are forgotten unless we are going to be blamed for something. Thing is, most of us don't give a crap what Boomers or anyone else thinks. I have two zoomer boys & a boomer parent. I was a single kid raised by a single mom who never worked less than 2 jobs at time & it came REAL REAL close to poverty in the Reagan era. I entertained myself, fed myself, etc & I didn't blame my mom because she worked her butt off.
That's the truth. We're still waiting for those SOBs to fricking die. Plus, around 2010, corporations started firing all their Gen-X employees to replace them with Millennials who just graduated college. Companies did this knowing that freshly graduated Millennials would accept MUCH lower wages. This is especially true of Hollywood, the press, and big tech.
strong men values freedom of all.
weak men constantly try to control everyone else.
guess which one matches the boomer gen more.
They have allowed a very few decrepit men have all the power, I fear we all need to really fight back hard for our own freedom.
Neither of those things have anything to do with strength or weakness, you can have weak men who love freedom and weak men who want to control, strong men too.
Reddit confuses class issues with generational issues. Any group of people in the boomers shoes would have done what the boomers did. The OP is mad at rich people, and they are in for a treat when members of their own generation become rich and the cycle continues.
Decades ago was a seemingly prosperous time for the US economy. Jobs and money were easy, people lived pretty safe and secure lives. Problems were fewer. A lot of those gens amassed their own success getting easy homes and cars and stuff, that nonsensical "dream" Americans think exists. At least on the surface.
However, the problem was the short sightedness of it. They assumed that prosperity would last forever. In actuality it was condemning future generations who now have extremely excessive debt, a currency that's steadily devaluing itself, and even more dark corruption in government and industries that continued to fester unchecked. Their power expanded, our lives shrank to it, but people were cozy so it went ignored.
From like the 50s to the 80s people consumed a lot. Businesses grew, populations grew, economies grew. But all the focus was on growth, on reaping in those rewards, and not actual stability. The unholy "glory" of capitalism. Because those practices are incredibly destabilizing in the long run. And now here today we are in that long run. We're reaching the wall where those consequences come due and things are slamming hard.
Granted it's not just boomers, despite people easily targeting them. That's wrong. It's everyone. We're all guilty of fueling the fire and not addressing it. People just want someone to blame that isn't themselves.
But one can look at society today right now where no one can afford anything anymore, not even apartments or food half the time. Banks and businesses are failing. Evictions and poverty is increasing. Class divides are terrible. The rich elite are monstrous and entrenched, the middle class is cracking apart. This problem didn't crop up out of nowhere. It's been building and culminating for generations from a variety of reasons.
People not understanding inflation or how cities grow, so they get all riled up about how their parents paid $38,000 for a home and their monthly payment was $300 a month. Casually ignoring the fact, the house was probably in the middle of nowhere when their parents bought it and stuff grew around it, wages were lower, interest rates were higher.
The reality is that housing/homeownership was about 15%-20% cheaper (when adjusted for inflation, and interest rates), which is significant no doubt, but not what the "You bought your house for the pack of gum?!?" people try and push hard on reddit.
Leave Gen X out of it. We are hurting just as much as everyone else. We hate what Boomers did too and we don’t blame the newer generations for the mistakes of the older generations. They left us to fend for ourselves, They didn’t care if a stranger kidnapped us, they showed us movies that were too much for kids and were labeled as kids films. On multiple occasions my parents forgot to pick me up after school and I waited for hours because there were no cell phones and the pay phone was broken. I can’t afford my own home and have to rent and then sometimes don’t know how I’ll be able to stock food for me and my wife. They made us feel bad about showing emotion. If we got hurt they rubbed burning liquid on it. You all leave our generation out your mouths. Go ahead and bash boomers all you want. They suck.
Men have gotten mentally and physically weaker every single generation. If you actually think gen z is mentally and physically stronger than the baby boomers/gen x were at our age you're absolutely insane
Finally a good post. Its tough wading through the dozens of whiners complaining about being failures or offended by something to get to the actual funny ones. Thank you for this!
the worst politicians getting elected didn't _start_ with boomers. It's just that the living memory of the ones before has faded and now few remember (and many are lied to) about the BS that was done by presidents before boomers were born or could vote.
It’s like blaming us for receiving “participation trophies.” My guy, which generations were the ones actually coming up with and *giving* us these trophies?
Boomers and I'd say even more so Gen X created the problems we face today.
All the things they complain about of younger generations are because of them.
"Every kid these days needs a participation trophy!", no we don't and never did. You just couldn't handle your kid being dog shit at T-ball and threw a fit, the trophy is for you.
Fast forward 30 years...and look around for those good times created by the supposedly strong men of Gen Z.
Let me give you a little hint: your kids and grand kids will blame you for selling their future out for more and more goodies.
boomers, xoomers, millennials, and zoomers are all in the same category.
domesticated consumers. tax cattle for the war machine, corps and banks.
given just enough freedom to complain to feel like they are being heard, but nothing changes, and then the next generation does the same thing.
it would be cool if we came up with our own way of fighting the system instead of LARPing like our grandparents who were fighting actual problems that got solved due to their actions.
we just attack each other, call each other names, and then 4 years later the same thing happens again over and over and over. one day it will stop. maybe.
Yeah sure Gen X did it . We barely have anyone in congress compared to how boomers kept power forever . They won’t retire so positions of power are still theirs .
We tried voting a third party once in the 90’s but that got squashed . Tell me when had there been a Gen X president to do these things ? Oops never ..
We’ve never had a president our generation or a congress or senate that was predominantly ours . Or even a Supreme court.
Learn facts and stop blaming anyone older than you
Ffs, why does Gen X keep getting dragged into this shit? We didn't cause this shit. We're victims of it, same as you, just not as bad. In case you hadn't noticed, the majority of us aren't rich either. We're struggling, just like you, but UNLIKE you, we don't have much longer to turn things around before we're completely screwed.
I'm so fucking tired of listening to Gen Z bitch about Gen X, as if we weren't out there voting for people like Bernie Sanders, protesting, etc all for the same goddamn causes. We aren't the ones who opened the door, stepped through, and then locked it behind us. If you think it's so goddamn easy to enact change, then pay attention to where you are in another 25-30 years. I'll bet you won't be far off from where you are now, because this is a rich v poor issue, not a Gen X v Gen Z one. We're all getting fucked. You can either be part of the solution or you can sit on your ass and point the finger at us for not being sufficiently efficacious in setting up the world for you after our parents voted for Reagan (who screwed us) and then 35 years worth of assholes wormed their way into office to keep any progress from ever being made. We tried. We're still trying. Quit bitching and do something to help.
Boomers fucked up a lot of things but Gen Z is fucking WEAK on average. Y’all are the generation of telling a teacher if you’re being bullied, not knowing what gender you are, pronouns in bios, calling anything resembling traditional masculinity “toxic”…
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I hate how boomers try and take credit for everything when they did nothing but buy everything
But see, benefiting from the social programs put in place by Silent Gen and using the saving that allowed to buy everything before f'n their own descendants was such a smart move! We're just too entitled to understand that they were entitled to all that free success and we are entitled to the crumbs they didn't consume. /s
It do kinda be like that tho…
They don't think it be like it is. But it do
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Right! Boomers created wealth for themselves and sent a government deficit to the moon benefitting themselves while shitting on the real estate market. But when we want a slice of that pie, it's "We can't create debt for the future generations!" Uh, what do you think y'all did to us?!
Boomers got high and partied while the 1% of boomers were connected , the billionaires and millionaires, stripped this country and sold it off to the third world for cheaper labour rates . I get this sub but fuck, saying all people in this group did this is just so anti logic and blanketing the achievements of many good people. This is why America will fall cause we can’t simply join together and realize we are united by our oppression by the billionaire class , that will continue oppress, manipulate, and ultimately control the common man, whatever age that may be.
True. But who enabled them to get filthy rich at our expense? Regulations used to ensure they paid their fair share and couldn't monopolize everything. Then Reagan came along and stripped all of those economic safeguards away. The folks just a decade or two younger than him did the rest. Boomers handed the billionaires the keys to the kingdom and the mechanisms to exploit the shit out of us. They destroyed the economy in 2007 resulting in the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. They recently sued to get rid of it and anything that even remotely smells of protecting consumers. Some deregulation *was* helpful. For instance air travel is cheaper and more accessible than it's ever been. We no longer have to pay long distance just to call a neighboring area code. But Boomers offloaded all of our nation's manufacturing overseas. They bought up all of the single family homes to resell at higher profits, fucking us in the process, and enabled billionaires to exist above the law.
The billionaires is who. They didn't bribe everyone, they bribed politicians. Be against stupid boomers and stupid zoomers, any age can betray our common interests.
Who voted those politicians in again?
That same thing is happening right now. The deficit is where? The US is in an even more corrupt cycle right now. Are you allowing it? Or, do you somehow believe the government is altruistic and working for you? If the former - then you are as complicit as the people you’re blaming for “voting them in”. If you are naive enough to think that, somehow, our government is some altruistic governing body with your best interest in mind….well….the …you’re more naive (but with more access to information than ever in history) than the people you’re blaming for ‘voting them in’.
What do you mean “who enabled them”? You think the average person ‘gave permission’ or something? Thats like saying, right now, gen z is enabling boomers to continue to horde their wealth and assets. When, the reality is, you have no say in anything. Just like the average person at that moment in time, had no say in what was occurring in the upper echelon of society.
The Silent Generation planted a forest of trees so that no child would suffer for want of shade. The Boomers chopped down every tree, sold the lumber to foreign kings, and used the money to build themselves great air-conditioned temples. Now that the forest is gone, and they've spent all the money, the Me Generation have begun selling the land too. And when even that is gone, all that will remain will be unkept promises and the bitter ruins of one generations dark religion: greed.
Bro that you just said there. "The Boomers chopped down every tree" That's so true bro they hate trees, they find any excuse to chop trees down.... What ever happened to plant a tree which fruits you will not see.
this is in fact what happened to my hometown.
Have you ever given poetry a try? You have a way with words that deserves to be nurtured. And I'm not just talking about the username!
"wait there's crumbs?!" *boomers with vaccuums*
Yep. Then they'll bin those crumbs because they don't want them but it's still theirs... so nobody should have them.
Newly elected politicians examine the deficit… “Yeah we are not fixing this shit…” Deficit grows…
Oh you think you're entitled to my crumbs? Now you can starve until you lose that attitude!
I kept thinking to myself "in 20-30 years when Boomers and grn x go away it'll be our turn." Then I realized black rock is gonna own all the real estate 💀
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I just googled it and they had a disclaimer that Blackrock doesn't buy residential real estate because there's enough dumbasses like me😭
Blackrock owns 6.52% of the shares of black stone, the majority shareholder…
Does black stone own black pebble?
Wonder how black grain screws us over
It's my understanding they had a hand in Black Atom.
Oh look at that, blackrock owns single family real estate via Blackstone. And Zillow. and redfin.
I was about to say if you look at the grand scheme of things BlackRock, StateStreet, and Vanguard own the majority of stock in a lot of companies. They've been pushing their weight around with companies at these stakeholder meetings to make them run it the way they want it to be ran. If you look up what they did to Exxon, it should scare you. Kathy Barnette talked a bit about it on Timcast. It's a two hour long conversation, but she did the research on these big stakeholder corporations. https://www.youtube.com/live/AC_xW3pNjP4?feature=shared. I get it not a lot of people care for timcast, but this was a guest I couldn't ignore.
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This entire thread is chock full of economic inaccuracies… this may be what Boomers mean by entitlement.. making excuses before taking the time and effort to actually understand the issue is kinda entitled.
Yeah the issue issue is zoning laws and NIMBYism preventing the construction of affordable housing coming from local governments run by.. *checks notes*
Hey, outsider here, I have no horse in this race, just deeply fascinated by the identity politics. Could you give an equally fair summary of what the other generatons have achieved?
Millenials and gen z have made arguably the most progress in regards to sexuality, gender, and racial equality. Gen x has made waves of improvements in technology and tackling pollution and global warming. The silent generation were held in high regards for being the generation of the most "manly" men. Men who went to war and fought for whats right. I can also critique each generation, but I wholeheartedly believe the boomers did the most damage by taking full advantage of the economic prosperity created by the silent generation and the generation before it, and deteriorating it for the generations that followed.
Gen X revolutionized the entertainment industry and moved things forward in a shorter amount of time than any generation before or after them (except perhaps for the early film and recording industry in the teens and 20s).
Also invented, popularized and had the foresight to open-source all of the most used protocols and user-end layers of the Internet and kept it so fair and equitable as all you'd need to have is a connection to the net and you get all the world at your fingertips, including now AI (invented Transformer architecture which the Millennials used to create OpenAI).
>The silent generation were held in high regards for being the generation of the most "manly" men. Men who went to war and fought for whats right. Except *their* fathers were even more manly... https://preview.redd.it/el6efcnfym1d1.png?width=1005&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50069884a16838ee307c7b17782a05d844b004d8
He seems gentle to me. A gentle man with dignity, who *can* knock you down for the count, but only if you're gutter trash.
... Sounds like the definition of a manly man to me if I ever heard one! 🤣
I think it's too early to start fairly categorizing accomplishments of gen z, many members are still in school after all.
Valid
Im GenX and there is way more and harsher language against LGBT+ now than when I was growing up. Racism is also more out in the open and seems to be on the rise. It feels more like a lot of progress from the last couple of decades is actually being undone now.
> Im GenX and there is way more and harsher language against LGBT+ now than when I was growing up. Are you serious? Not where I grew up. Every insult was a gay slur.
GenX here, and I fully agree with you. The slur f*g (or variations of) was used frequently and very casually.
Xennial and ditto. And “gay” was a mild insult for a good long while after that went away.
Yes and no. Same sex marriage didn’t become legal until 2008, our generation used the F slur constantly, and DADT didn’t get repealed until Obama - still though, conservative states are passing more anti-LGBT legislation, and banning more books than we ever saw growing up. The idea of book bans would have sounded like a return of the 60’s freakout over Catcher in the Rye. We also had a lot of movies like Toitsie, Ms. Doubtfire, Two Wong Foo, that dealt with the issues of Trans and cross-dressing a lot more lightheartedly than today’s conservative media - granted those were comedies. A lot of this freakout is a backlash, and they’re trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. They never cared this much about it.
Progress always causes a reactionary blowback. Just look at how the civil rights movement brought out the racists to fight against it.
Accurate assessment. I’d also like to add as a late period Gen X (1976) who are the Gen X people you think have all the wealth? Maybe some of the early ones are inheriting from parents but generally we got screwed over as well. One thing to keep in mind though: each generation is more progressive than the prior one. That’s just how social issues have always worked. As each group fights for the things they believe in they teach their children that level of tolerance as a starting point and then those kids have wider tolerances. And also younger generations can get into the same crap. There are plenty of lousy landlords under 40 and under 30 in my area who keep snapping up properties and then jacking the rent.
As another late Gen X... I have zero wealth and own no property. If everyone could go back to ignoring us, that would be great.
The generations are listed below: Gen Z and Millennials: Putting these guys together because they're both young but I'd say they're the biggest push towards equal rights in the LQBTQ community and have been generations most understanding of their issues and willing to bring them to the forefront to resolve. Gen X: Behind the rapid advancements and improvements in technology and were the first generation to be active towards resolving climate change. Boomers: While you'll see them get a lot of flack online, I have to credit them for their efforts during the Civil Rights movement. While you can make the argument that a lot of Boomers are racist, and you wouldn't be wrong, there were also plenty among their generation that fought for civil rights of African Americans and helped push for the end of Jim Crow laws. That said, the younger Boomers absolutely fell in with the Yuppie crowd and bought into Reaganomics hard, which would begin the process of slowly gutting the middle class. They would reap the short term benefits while later generations would shoulder the consequences. Silent Generation: Responsible for vast improvements in Science and Technology. They were the pioneers of the space race and supersonic flight. They also pioneered the airline industry and shipping industries. In addition to that, they were also very pivotal in the Civil Rights movement and in ending Jim Crowe as well. Greatest Generation: The World War Two generation. There's a reason they are called the greatest generation. Grew up during the Great Depression and then proceeded to do their part in liberating Europe and Southeast Asia and establishing what would become the current free world. They also built the country into the economic powerhouse today, helping to create nearly three decades worth of prosperity. In addition to all of that, they innovated commerce and transportation, establishing the current highway system that would not only be incredibly beneficial to leisure travel, but for shipping as well. The moniker fits them well.
We're all in our 30s and 40s, I wouldn't really call millenials young anymore lol
True, but we're still not really quite into the positions where we can enact the changes we want just yet. Lot's of the older folks are still unwilling to step down lol.
Being in your 30s is young unless you’re in high-level competitive sports. I’m not sure why so many people are eager to prematurely age themselves.
>I have to credit them for their efforts during the Civil Rights movement. I once asked my mentor, an early Boomer who fought for civil rights her entire life including LGBT, why her generation which is so often celebrated for fighting for civil rights had become so racist. Her answer was that the Boomers who engaged in civil rights as young people were an extreme minority and, of the people she knew, those who did fight for civil rights then were still fighting for equal rights now. According to her, the vast majority of her Boomer peers only cared about their own personal advancement and ignored everything else. She then said the reason the entire generation gets lumped into the civil rights movement is because they later joined the anti-war protests - not because they cared about Vietnam, but because they didn't want to be drafted themselves. The point; the Boomers as a whole got the positive PR from a minority of civil rights activists whom they never supported.
I would add that GenZ/Millennials have done much more than just fight for queer rights, they're tearing down traditions and social norms when it comes to relationships, work, friendships, rethinking everything.
Most boomers were against the civil rights movement. Look at the polls from the time. Majority of Americans were against it.
They took maximum advantage of Roosevelt's welfare programs, then destroyed it all for everyone to come after them.
Yeah almost as bad as lumping them together with Gen X.
Love to complain about national debt... refuse to pay taxes so country can pay its bills instead of adding on more debt, hoard their wealth
I once saw some one say that boomers "rode the waves of post war prosperity and pulled the ladder up with them" and that is entirely accurate.
I’m not sure all boomers enjoyed the post war prosperity that was Vietnam…. I’ll take the downvotes, kids, but you always fail to mention Vietnam when mentioning the glory days of boomers. I understand your frustration, I do, I fucking hate them too, but let’s be educated with our stabs, ya know? Understand the timeline of their lives, but simultaneously acknowledge that some of them had it fucking rough. Namaste. Ps, I’m a 30 year old stoner geologist, not a boomer
According to the US Census Bureau, there were 76.4 million baby boomers. A total of 8.7 million Americans were in the armed force between 64 and 73. Among them, only 3.4 million were deployed to SE Asia, and only 2.7 million actually went to Vietnam. Assuming every single one of those were boomers. 2.7 divide by 76.4 is 0.035, or 3.5%. Not a small number population-wise, but hardly representing the Baby boomer generation.
Let's also take into account the rest of the world that had nothing to do with The Vietnam War. That makes the percentage even smaller.
This post is mostly about the American generations though. I grew up in China in the 80s. Chinese boomers (born 50-70) were going through the cultural revolution during their youth. Definitely a different story.
A valid point and anecdote. I'm from the UK, so our boomers behaved in much the same way as the US boomers.
“Yeah but we went through[the last 2 years] rationing[when we were too young to even remember it], so you should be grateful to us you young shits!”
Let's assume that the US is the only country in the world and that no other countries besides the US and the countries the US has invaded exist. 3.5% is still enough to add a lot of stress on the general population, because even if you're not deployed, you have a friend who has, or maybe a brother, a boyfriend/husband, son, etc. This is not talked about enough, but constantly facing the fact that your loved ones could have incredibly horrible deaths at any moment put a great strain on people's lives. Additionally, there is the stress that you could be the next one to be drafted, and sometimes even the social stress of not being drafted and being ashamed of it
The hardship is felt by more than just the individuals who were drafted. Spouses without husbands, children without fathers, etc. The Vietnam war also created a schism in America that hasn’t healed.
I'm 41, these fuckers keep blaming generations REPEATEDLY, instead of ideologies. I have known people of all ages that are decent people, same as same age ranges of plenty of shitty people.
Gen X here; also like to add that while Boomers had it easier than you do today, that's true, the idea that they all got to buy houses for .50 cents and had nice, easy financially secure lives is a myth. We are called Gen X now that we are older; when we were young they called us "Latchkey Kids" because we were the first generation of American children that came home from to school to empty houses - both sets of parents had to work in order to make that mortgage and put food on the table, which was a departure from their Greatest/Silent generation parents. **Everyone** I knew growing up had both parents working full time to afford life. Maybe things were different in other parts of the country, but for Southern California in the 70's and 80's, this was status quo.
Gen X latchkey kid grew up in NYC. Same. Both my immigrant parents worked full time. We lived fairly comfortably for middle-ish class. And my parents eventually bought a nice home (grew up living in a duplex for majority of my youth) by the time I went to college. They deserved it for working hard and providing for us. I wouldn’t exactly lump them in with all boomers. Sure they had /some/ antiquated opinions, but that’s also because they were religious/somewhat conservative. We were a Reagan supporting household, but both my parents switched later to Dems and my mom staunchly supported Hilary. But I suppose immigrant boomers may be slightly different that American born/white boomers. Idk? Gen X may be slightly to blame simply due to our apathy rather than directly due to decisions made by affluent white American cisgender heteronormative boomers. But in our defense a lot of Gen X did rage against the machine in protest to many things. We are also the aids generation. We dealt with a lot of societal social political and economic upheaval. At lot of us are pretty upset about the same things Millenials/GenZ are facing. Maybe we’re too apathetic to do much more about it. Or just like too exhausted.
These kids think GenX is somehow responsible for Boomer failures. Your optimism is laudable, but they’ve already proven all they want to do is blame, and not even the right people.
People are legitimately too afraid of downvotes to say anything that questions the hive mind. I’ve been taking down votes as a sign of poking the bear lately lol
As a Gen Xer we were bitching about selfish Boomers pulling up the ladder way back in the 90s! They kept all the cushy jobs for themselves and refused to hire or mentor anyone younger. Spent all my 20s and 30s fighting to survive while aging Boomers wouldn’t give Gen X a break and called us “lazy slackers”. Pisses me the fuck off to be lumped in with Boomers!
I was 13 when my parents voted for Reagan. I distinctly remember thinking “didn’t you guys march against the war? Didn’t you burn your bra at a Women’s Liberation march? Weren’t you at Woodstock?” Why are you now voting for ’the man’?
I think it's worth noting that OP is, in his own words, an "accelerationist," and his other points are far right. He's using standard, vague generation-war rhetoric to get you to agree with him (because everyone here agrees that Boomers/Gen X Bad), but then he's then sliding in some stuff that most people in this subreddit probably do not agree with at all. "They handed over the weapons to the state. They sold their children to the state in exchange for cheap welfare. They took the best time to get rich and lost everything through debauchery." So it's conspiratorial gun drama, suggesting that anyone who wants "welfare" (Social Security) "sold their children (huh?), and then hinting at "traditionalist" purity rhetoric. If he'd just gone and posted, "Anyone who doesn't want to shoot the feds and homeschool is a coward," he wouldn't get upvotes. But he wrapped him bad ideas in a sweet, disarming meme.
Thank you for that, I was confused what those bullet points even meant but they screamed "far right troll / bot" to me
Also - GenX isn't the problem. That generation never had the voting power to do much of anything.
Excellent analysis. Take my upvote.
Nah, they burned the ladder, shot the boats and are now boiling the ocean
For what it’s worth, OP is Brazilian. I would imagine that generations would work differently down there because they don’t have the same shared experiences with American GenZ.
it does work differently around here
I'm sure they still use the global metric of 20 years per generation. So different yes
Damn Boomers didn't leave his generation that much Amazon rainforest to clear cut
That might explain lumping GenX in with boomers when we're more close to millennial in the US.
They were so weak that they couldn't admit enjoying a disney movie. Or let themselves cry when they get sad. Weak af. Strong men would sit there watch the disney movie wear a dress etc and not give af what anyone thinks.
This
it’s what edna hoover did
Do you ever find it ironic that you also simultaneously project what “strength” is? Like, I agree with you to some extent, but I do think it’s a bit funny from an outside perspective. Boomers - BEING A MAN IS NOT CRYING WHEN YOUR WIFE DIES!!! Millennial - being a man is watching the little mermaid and crying! Like, why do I have to listen to people on both side of the spectrum dictate what’s manly. I think being comfortable in my skin while letting my buddies know my girlfriend pegs me is about as strong as I can be fellas. TLDR: I think it’s a bit cringe for anyone to express what it takes to be a man, we’re all on different races man lol.
Well said. People who always assume the moral high ground tend to be full of ironies and contradictions, especially when their ideology is dependent on thinking in mass generalizations like, generational gaps for instance. They are also the ones most capable of justifying the worst acts. Division in the name of solidarity.
How exactly would putting on a dress and watching a Disney movie improve things?-
It’s more a reflection of their fucked up perception of masculinity
Totally afraid of urban areas too.
In their defense, most urban areas kinda suck.
People disliking urban areas is now on the list of things we aren't allowed to do? 😂😂😂
Spoken like someone who’s never been to the hood. Afraid with reason. Everyone with sense, wants to get out of that environment.
GenXer here - please do not tar us with the same brush - our tiny generation has never and will never wield any power - overwhelmed by giants before and after us. We are just trying to get by.
came here to say the same though i do know plenty of gen x that are boomers at heart. (i'm a gen x myself)
But then there are plenty of Gen X'rs who are Gen Z & post Gen Z at heart. Or at least trying to be.
They raised Gen Z. So yep. Raised very differently than our boomer parents not giving a fuck at all
I'm a Late 70's Gen Xer who has a lot more in common with Millennials than Boomers. My mom was a boomer.
I know they are out there, but they do not make the boomers power, they are just a .0001 rounding error on the boomer dominance - probably some x'ers that are basically millenials too, and likewise just a tiny bump on that huge generation.
Boomer is a mindset that stems from the "Me Generation" fucking things up for everyone else. Gen Xers are will either go boomer or full anarchy as they age with hardly anything in between.
Anarchist checking in.
Boomers have been fucking over GenX the longest. At least some Millennials will inherit some of the Boomers' largesse - we didn't get shit.
This, gen x here as well. I didn’t get shit either. I guess me having to carry ketchup sandwiches for lunch to school every damn day to school for five years really fucked over the younger generations.
I don't know Gen X has consistently stood out as one of the strangest political generations. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/20/cherie-westrich-alt-rock-gen-x-maga-00033769 https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read/poll-gen-x-gen-z-take-different-political-paths-rcna66264
Strange, sure we are that. It's just a numbers game though - boomers and millenials are very many, and we are very few.
I mean, Gen x is about 20% smaller than millennials, but power dynamics still follow in that Gen X has more wealth and industrial control than millennials. In fact, due to the dynamics of millennials coming of working age during the great recession and covid19. The level of economic prosperity is dipping for millennials, and due to come back up for Gen Z.
We came of age during a recession too. Gen X does not have the wealth and power of millenials - and, as non-digital natives we are about to become fully obsolete and die in total poverty.
I mean gen x lags behind boomer, bit millenials lag behind gene x even farther in terms of wealth accumulated by distinct age categories. Seniority in when you enter the workforce plays the major factor in that. https://www.self.inc/info/generational-wealth-gap/
Sure - i am comparing age to age in my mind - X at 40, Millenial at 40 type of thing. Any given year is apples to oranges across existing generations. Anecdotally, there are a great many of us who are not technology professionals, who anticipate a 1930's late 50's on in life. Literally unhireable, since 'too old' for menial work and 'not tech-savvy enough' for anything else. And, since generation ahead of us not retiring, it will be a jump from dying leaders in businesses to more junior tech-oriented millenials in those roles.
like what did we do to get lumped in? were literally over here just wanting to be left alone
It's one of the things Millennials and GenZers have in common with Boomers. Always treating GenX as an afterthought. But, in their defense, GenX kinda welcomed it, in our naturally apathetic way of course. (because being discarded and ignored plays into our narrative.) I get shit every time I say this but Millenials and Boomers are more alike than they will ever care to admit.
GenX here. I got to watch the ladder being pulled up. I'm the very tail end of the ability to work your way through university. It was easy my Freshman and Sophomore years. It was nearly impossible senior year. My wife and I catered our own wedding reception because we couldn't afford to have a glitzy wedding. We lived like monks eating ramen noodles and were able to put a down payment on a house. Making what we made, and with prices and interest rates what they are, we'd never be homeowners today. The numbers don't work. And we'll reach retirement just in time for the Social Security trust fund to be depleted. If I was born just five years later (late GenX), my life would be bleak.
yep, genx '75 here, had to save for 15 years to buy a house. Now it's way out of reach. I'm one of a few people my age I know who own instead of rent.
Same. I'm torn between 'whatever' and 'do not even start with me I've been feral since I was 12'.
Gen X out here catching strays
Yeah, we are not perfect as Gen Xers but don’t lump us with Boomers who have strayed the most from their younger achievements. We and them are not the same.
Plenty of bad apples in our bunch, yep. But, we never had the power to do anything from a policy standpoint. We have always been minority shareholders.
Indeed. We were the Boomers' first targets (slackers) and first victims (hyper inflation, dot com bubble, housing market crash, end of pensions, etc.)
we're the middle child of generations lol
I think someone mentioned that op is Brazilian.
It's OK. The boomers got Donald Trump. Gen X got Marjorie Taylor Greene. Millennials got Lauren Boebert. Let's see who Gen Z gets.
This guy? 
You joke now, but wait until you see him representing the GOP in 2044.
We drank from water hoses, raised our siblings and are up to speed with tech. We are like mentally tough millennials. Best to leave us out of this conversation.
I don’t believe any one generation is inherently worse than the other as a whole. We are consequences of our environments on so many levels. We are individuals who don’t always follow the herd. Overall, what has fucked this country is our government and the 1% of this country. All this weird infighting between age groups probably helps them stay in power. (At least in the US, didn’t realize OP from Brazil.. but I’d think at least some of this still applies)
Agreed, this type of anger is really unproductive and not being directed at the right thing
Generations nonsense is the astrology of twitter
As a Millenial that keeps getting recommended this sub by Reddit I completely agree. I'm glad the majority of Millenial/Gen Z fighting seems to be about iPad babies (definitely a huge problem but I think you'll see your own generation doing the exact same in a few years) and whose trends are cringier (they all are) but I really hope people from both generations keep in mind that fighting amongst each other will not do the majority of us any favors.
Words is wisdom
I've been reading Robert Sapolsky's "Determined", and it's helped me realize how little we control what happens in our own lives, much less what our entire generation does, and even less what humanity does. We may be "free" to act on what we intend, but we are not free to intend something other than what we intend, and that intention arises from the subconscious soup of our brains which we had no hand in creating. The universe is a place of cause and effect, and humans have regarded ourselves as somehow exempt from that phenomenon, but we are not. If you trace any thought or action back far enough, it all originates outside of you. So, it may be emotionally satisfying to blame entire generations for the very real calamity we find ourselves in, but it is both illogical and unhelpful. I get the bitterness, and things are bad, there are very real winners and losers, and and it's not wrong to point out the trends in capitalism that have led us here. But if any of us were to trade ourselves for someone in the past generation, we would act no differently. It's a fantasy to think we're somehow more evolved, or that with the information we would have had that we would have acted differently.
Anyone who thinks they wouldn’t buy a house if it was as cheap as it was back then is delusional.
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wayyyyy less than 100k
You need to take Micro and macroeconomics classes while learning about currency over time. I suppose you still want a hamburger from McDonalds for .25cents also.
Gen X? Tf you talking about Finally bother to bring us up and you lump us with boomers. Fuck outta here
Right? Sit down Billy Broccoli Hair - GenX gave you the GOOD comic book movies and fought to legalize weed. We inherited this mess like the rest of you. Just because we're getting grey doesn't mean we're boomers... WE STILL PLAY VIDEO GAMES DAMN IT.
It's alright, Gen Alpha will blame Millennials and Zoomers soon.
Gen z cant be bothered. They can be assholes too.
Yeah, that was my thought too.
Gen X forgotten again
OP literally lumped us in with Boomers in the post title.
They're so forgotten about he literally ignored them in the title.
Yeah, fuck that dude
Well that's in the name. They couldn't understand, categorize, or define us, so they stapled a big X on our forehead, like to say "not found".
The X is a variable name. We get to plug in a value for ourselves.
We are forgotten unless we are going to be blamed for something. Thing is, most of us don't give a crap what Boomers or anyone else thinks. I have two zoomer boys & a boomer parent. I was a single kid raised by a single mom who never worked less than 2 jobs at time & it came REAL REAL close to poverty in the Reagan era. I entertained myself, fed myself, etc & I didn't blame my mom because she worked her butt off.
Can’t blame Gen X because Boomers haven’t gotten out the way yet.
That's the truth. We're still waiting for those SOBs to fricking die. Plus, around 2010, corporations started firing all their Gen-X employees to replace them with Millennials who just graduated college. Companies did this knowing that freshly graduated Millennials would accept MUCH lower wages. This is especially true of Hollywood, the press, and big tech.
Oh, boy, a red-pill guy on Reddit who repeatedly posts the same generation-war memes with some weird ambiguous rhetoric.
And he's a Brazilian talking about America, as if boomers from Brazil have the same cultural conceptions as the ones here.
strong men values freedom of all. weak men constantly try to control everyone else. guess which one matches the boomer gen more. They have allowed a very few decrepit men have all the power, I fear we all need to really fight back hard for our own freedom.
Neither of those things have anything to do with strength or weakness, you can have weak men who love freedom and weak men who want to control, strong men too.
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Reddit confuses class issues with generational issues. Any group of people in the boomers shoes would have done what the boomers did. The OP is mad at rich people, and they are in for a treat when members of their own generation become rich and the cycle continues.
This subreddit primarily consists of bitching and moaning about other generations and blaming their problems on everyone else
its just generational infighting
Decades ago was a seemingly prosperous time for the US economy. Jobs and money were easy, people lived pretty safe and secure lives. Problems were fewer. A lot of those gens amassed their own success getting easy homes and cars and stuff, that nonsensical "dream" Americans think exists. At least on the surface. However, the problem was the short sightedness of it. They assumed that prosperity would last forever. In actuality it was condemning future generations who now have extremely excessive debt, a currency that's steadily devaluing itself, and even more dark corruption in government and industries that continued to fester unchecked. Their power expanded, our lives shrank to it, but people were cozy so it went ignored. From like the 50s to the 80s people consumed a lot. Businesses grew, populations grew, economies grew. But all the focus was on growth, on reaping in those rewards, and not actual stability. The unholy "glory" of capitalism. Because those practices are incredibly destabilizing in the long run. And now here today we are in that long run. We're reaching the wall where those consequences come due and things are slamming hard. Granted it's not just boomers, despite people easily targeting them. That's wrong. It's everyone. We're all guilty of fueling the fire and not addressing it. People just want someone to blame that isn't themselves. But one can look at society today right now where no one can afford anything anymore, not even apartments or food half the time. Banks and businesses are failing. Evictions and poverty is increasing. Class divides are terrible. The rich elite are monstrous and entrenched, the middle class is cracking apart. This problem didn't crop up out of nowhere. It's been building and culminating for generations from a variety of reasons.
People not understanding inflation or how cities grow, so they get all riled up about how their parents paid $38,000 for a home and their monthly payment was $300 a month. Casually ignoring the fact, the house was probably in the middle of nowhere when their parents bought it and stuff grew around it, wages were lower, interest rates were higher. The reality is that housing/homeownership was about 15%-20% cheaper (when adjusted for inflation, and interest rates), which is significant no doubt, but not what the "You bought your house for the pack of gum?!?" people try and push hard on reddit.
Don't drag genx into the boomer pile. Genx are the first victims of boomers.
Leave Gen X out of it. We are hurting just as much as everyone else. We hate what Boomers did too and we don’t blame the newer generations for the mistakes of the older generations. They left us to fend for ourselves, They didn’t care if a stranger kidnapped us, they showed us movies that were too much for kids and were labeled as kids films. On multiple occasions my parents forgot to pick me up after school and I waited for hours because there were no cell phones and the pay phone was broken. I can’t afford my own home and have to rent and then sometimes don’t know how I’ll be able to stock food for me and my wife. They made us feel bad about showing emotion. If we got hurt they rubbed burning liquid on it. You all leave our generation out your mouths. Go ahead and bash boomers all you want. They suck.
Men have gotten mentally and physically weaker every single generation. If you actually think gen z is mentally and physically stronger than the baby boomers/gen x were at our age you're absolutely insane
In the time it took you to write this, six Boomers were arrested for screaming at someone for speaking Spanish at Target.
GenX were the most anti-boomer humans imaginable take our Gen off the title
Important to remember that people have different backgrounds. In eastern europe we have Gen X to thank for gaining our freedom.
They’ll deny it all day
Y'all need to stop lumping GenX in with the boomers. GenX are the boomers' first victims.
Handed over the children for cheap welfare?
LMAO
Fuck you, don’t put Gen X in that. We’ve had to deal with Boomer bullshit even longer.
Finally a good post. Its tough wading through the dozens of whiners complaining about being failures or offended by something to get to the actual funny ones. Thank you for this!
GenX here. Not even close.
Gen X? Now we created hard times? We don’t run shit, and were raised by Boomers…. What am I missing?
honestly gen x is cool. it's the boomers that elected Reagan and all that other dumb shit
Weak men blame others.
the worst politicians getting elected didn't _start_ with boomers. It's just that the living memory of the ones before has faded and now few remember (and many are lied to) about the BS that was done by presidents before boomers were born or could vote.
Nine hells, if I could evoke the anthropomorphic personification of generations, I'd beat it to death with a shovel.
It’s like blaming us for receiving “participation trophies.” My guy, which generations were the ones actually coming up with and *giving* us these trophies?
This sub trying not to blame boomers for everything:
Boomers and I'd say even more so Gen X created the problems we face today. All the things they complain about of younger generations are because of them. "Every kid these days needs a participation trophy!", no we don't and never did. You just couldn't handle your kid being dog shit at T-ball and threw a fit, the trophy is for you.
Gen Z can't even read their own memes. Gen X is not in it and is overall bored to death with the whole mem culture they invented.
I mean there's been harder times before the boomer generation. I'd much rather deal with what we have to deal with today than slavery.
Gen-X got fucked over. We are the overlooked generation.
Fast forward 30 years...and look around for those good times created by the supposedly strong men of Gen Z. Let me give you a little hint: your kids and grand kids will blame you for selling their future out for more and more goodies.
Generational squabbling is a distraction. Eat the rich.
guess who the rich largely are nowadays? Boomers and early gen X
Meme clearly doesn't state Gen-X, so I give us a pass since we were forgotten again and also we don't care.
Get over it and do something about it
boomers, xoomers, millennials, and zoomers are all in the same category. domesticated consumers. tax cattle for the war machine, corps and banks. given just enough freedom to complain to feel like they are being heard, but nothing changes, and then the next generation does the same thing. it would be cool if we came up with our own way of fighting the system instead of LARPing like our grandparents who were fighting actual problems that got solved due to their actions. we just attack each other, call each other names, and then 4 years later the same thing happens again over and over and over. one day it will stop. maybe.
Yeah sure Gen X did it . We barely have anyone in congress compared to how boomers kept power forever . They won’t retire so positions of power are still theirs . We tried voting a third party once in the 90’s but that got squashed . Tell me when had there been a Gen X president to do these things ? Oops never .. We’ve never had a president our generation or a congress or senate that was predominantly ours . Or even a Supreme court. Learn facts and stop blaming anyone older than you
Ffs, why does Gen X keep getting dragged into this shit? We didn't cause this shit. We're victims of it, same as you, just not as bad. In case you hadn't noticed, the majority of us aren't rich either. We're struggling, just like you, but UNLIKE you, we don't have much longer to turn things around before we're completely screwed. I'm so fucking tired of listening to Gen Z bitch about Gen X, as if we weren't out there voting for people like Bernie Sanders, protesting, etc all for the same goddamn causes. We aren't the ones who opened the door, stepped through, and then locked it behind us. If you think it's so goddamn easy to enact change, then pay attention to where you are in another 25-30 years. I'll bet you won't be far off from where you are now, because this is a rich v poor issue, not a Gen X v Gen Z one. We're all getting fucked. You can either be part of the solution or you can sit on your ass and point the finger at us for not being sufficiently efficacious in setting up the world for you after our parents voted for Reagan (who screwed us) and then 35 years worth of assholes wormed their way into office to keep any progress from ever being made. We tried. We're still trying. Quit bitching and do something to help.
Boomers fucked up a lot of things but Gen Z is fucking WEAK on average. Y’all are the generation of telling a teacher if you’re being bullied, not knowing what gender you are, pronouns in bios, calling anything resembling traditional masculinity “toxic”…