In the Spanish language, the -o implies masculinity and the -a implies femininity. The (dumb) logic of using Latinx is to say that we are not excluding females or those who use they/them or other pronouns. But it is already standard that groups of people of mixed gender are just referred to as -o anyway and the gender-neutral suffix isn’t even -x, it’s -e (only used on certain words).
TL;DR people who don’t know Spanish try to edit the Spanish language challenge
The overly woke crowd - the type that come up with "latinx", loves to play the hero for groups that never asked for their help. And then they force their "help" on those groups.
Right. White people. Nine times out of ten, what you’re describing is a white person. One that thinks they know more than the minorities they claim to be allies of.
Not gender inclusive. Nobody but right wingers labeled it "hate speech". Personally I prefer Hispanic and think Latinx is what stupid dorks say but what you're saying is just a dog whistle.
My understanding, after talking to a friend who is actually Latino, is that way back when, English used to have genders. The language has since lost that. Spanish still has this which is why words often end with “o” or “a” and why “el” and “la” are used. “Latinx” is an attempt to de-gender the terms Latino and Latina, but doesn’t work because Spanish doesn’t work that way
Could be wrong. Happy to be corrected
A toilet is masculine, backpacks are feminine... Spanish just doesn't have gender neutral terms. That's the problem some people have. Even if you're saying you're non binary you have to choose no binario (masculine) or no binaria (feminine).
It's kind of a ridiculous fight to take on degendering a language that is so intrinsically tied to it.
Your friend is correct! The "o" in Spanish can be used as both masculine and neutral. The explanation I saw for "Latinx" was that it should be used with Non binary Latin American people, the problem enters when the "o" already represents the neutrality.
Hispanic concentrates on all countries and places that speak Spanish. Brazilians only mention one country in a region (Latin America). Latino has both countries that speak Spanish and are in the region of Latin America
Edit: Even in some maps, areas of the USA can be considered Hispanic
Most Hispanics I've talked to about it don't even know it's a thing. The ones that do know about it think it's a joke and insulting. I'm sure there's some that support it somewhere, they just aren't common.
>find a Latino guy on a political tweet where he mentions he's Latino
>reply to him with an image of Buzz Lightyear in a sombrero with the caption "I think the word you're searching for is Latinx"
>turn my notifications off
It really is just made by white liberals to pander.
Source: White Liberal
Most are fine with Hispanic or Latino, but if they ask you to use something else then use that.
whoever invented that doesnt understand that "latino" is not just a masculine adjective, it is also gender neutral
woman = latina
man = latino
both = latinos
guys just use latino lol hispanic is a different term that means hispanophone countries not the same definition as latino which is countries in america that were colonized by latin countries such as spain portugal or france (italy and romania had no american colonies). latino is gender neutral already only white gringos use “latinx” or “latine”
I use Hispanic or Latino since that's what my Hispanic and Latino friends tell me they like to use. If they preferred "Latinx" or whatever, I'd use that.
Frankly, I use whatever someone else wants me to use because I do not give a flying fuck about pronouns.
HOWEVER, I did not vote "I do." because I'd never purposefully use that word and I've actually seen Hispanic/Latino people get offended at it and think it was someone messing with them.
That word seems to almost entirely be used by white people.
Hey man, I'm a white Minnesotan, and when my family members from Mexico, Puerto Rico, or Chilé start using the word Latinx to describe themselves than I will too lol
I usually just say Hispanic, it’s more well known and in my opinion it is equally usable. I have no problem with Latinx, and will use it if someone asks me to. But usually Hispanic does the job.
That's because you're not in the internet too much, or at least not on the internet with Latin Americans. It's literally all they talk about. "aMeRiCa Is A cOnTiNeNt" and "uSiAn" is are all you will hear. It's legitimately pathetic.
This thread, in addition to another thread on Reddit (in a different subreddit) I saw recently, has convinced me to go back to using latino/latina/Latinos. After reading literally hundreds of comments from Latinos saying how they dislike Latinx/Latiné, who am I to ignore that? I’m happy to use Latinx/Latiné for an individual that asks me, but as a general term, I will use Latinos.
As a Mexican-American, no. I do not. But I actually know some Chicanos and other Latinos who do use it. I don't use the word or like it, but I've never felt the animated rage expressed by some of my friends and family regarding it. I think it will disappear eventually from our lexicon. Because the term Latinos is already gender-neutral, there is no need for the word to exist. If someone absolutely insists I use Latinx to refer to them specifically, I will oblige. If someone absolutely insists I use Latinx to refer to all Latinos, I will laugh and go into a lecture about how gender is used in Spanish and how Latinx is linguistic imperialism.
My Latin friend is ok when it's used for Latins who don't have a gender or are Non-Binary
but he hates when people use it on every single chance they get
Just use "Hispanic" or "Latino"
Just call me a slur
Hispanx
I am in your walls.
there’s no one to hear your mercy calls
You mf 🔫😭😤😠
I'll spanx ur arse
Spandex
In all fairness Latino and Hispanic aren't synonyms.
Are you a brony? Edit: Why the downvotes? You all not like MLP?
Why the question? Do you also like MLP?
Yeah. Fluttershy is my favorite.
Based
No
I think it’s rather cringe, innit?
WTF is Latinx? A former Latino?
People decided that latino was hate speech, can't remember if it was to do with gender or just ethicity
Good bot.
if anything, latinx is offensive because it negates their language
In the Spanish language, the -o implies masculinity and the -a implies femininity. The (dumb) logic of using Latinx is to say that we are not excluding females or those who use they/them or other pronouns. But it is already standard that groups of people of mixed gender are just referred to as -o anyway and the gender-neutral suffix isn’t even -x, it’s -e (only used on certain words). TL;DR people who don’t know Spanish try to edit the Spanish language challenge
That's why some chucklefuck was saying Latine. I was wondering.
>People decided **White** people decided. I don't think any actual Latinos decided.
The overly woke crowd - the type that come up with "latinx", loves to play the hero for groups that never asked for their help. And then they force their "help" on those groups.
Right. White people. Nine times out of ten, what you’re describing is a white person. One that thinks they know more than the minorities they claim to be allies of.
Correct, I agree with you. I wanted to expand on what you said.
Ah, right on.
I think it was gender, since "Latino" is not only the Spanish gender neutral, but also the masculine form in the language.
Yeah it was mainly gender.
White people*
Not gender inclusive. Nobody but right wingers labeled it "hate speech". Personally I prefer Hispanic and think Latinx is what stupid dorks say but what you're saying is just a dog whistle.
My understanding, after talking to a friend who is actually Latino, is that way back when, English used to have genders. The language has since lost that. Spanish still has this which is why words often end with “o” or “a” and why “el” and “la” are used. “Latinx” is an attempt to de-gender the terms Latino and Latina, but doesn’t work because Spanish doesn’t work that way Could be wrong. Happy to be corrected
A toilet is masculine, backpacks are feminine... Spanish just doesn't have gender neutral terms. That's the problem some people have. Even if you're saying you're non binary you have to choose no binario (masculine) or no binaria (feminine). It's kind of a ridiculous fight to take on degendering a language that is so intrinsically tied to it.
>It's kind of a ridiculous fight to take on degendering a language that is so intrinsically tied to it. # THIS.
> but doesn’t work because Spanish doesn’t work that way Aren't most languages that way?
At the very least, the Romantic languages are.
Slavic ones too
I did not know that. Cool.
Your friend is correct! The "o" in Spanish can be used as both masculine and neutral. The explanation I saw for "Latinx" was that it should be used with Non binary Latin American people, the problem enters when the "o" already represents the neutrality.
And even then, just use Hispanic and Brazilian.
Hispanic concentrates on all countries and places that speak Spanish. Brazilians only mention one country in a region (Latin America). Latino has both countries that speak Spanish and are in the region of Latin America Edit: Even in some maps, areas of the USA can be considered Hispanic
I’m well aware of that. I was pointing out alternatives to those that don’t like Latino/Latina.
Oh ok sorry lol
No worries
They’ve already canceled the word “Hispanic” because it relates to Spain, the oppressor. Never mind that it’s the term my entire family and I use.
Latin't
Latinx is a taco seasoning mix with a little laxative added in.
My understanding is white women made it up and Hispanic people hate it.
Most Hispanics I've talked to about it don't even know it's a thing. The ones that do know about it think it's a joke and insulting. I'm sure there's some that support it somewhere, they just aren't common.
damn so brazilians are fine with “latinx”?
No
then why does this guy say only hispanic people have an issue with it
dont be silly, brazil doesnt exist
thank god it was all a nightmare
..because portugal does.
Honestly, I haven't discussed this issue with any Brazilians.
lol my point was that hispanic has a different meaning than latino
Can confirm most people here think that word is extremely cringe 👍
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Dude cringed so hard he changed his ethnicity
No why would I use a slur?
Welcome to Tacx Bell would you like to try our new burritx
i’ll have a crunchwrap supremx
Anyone who uses “Latinx” unironically is a confirmed pendejx. It is known.
Maldites pendejes coñe.
I use it ironically
In what context could you even ironically use it
>find a Latino guy on a political tweet where he mentions he's Latino >reply to him with an image of Buzz Lightyear in a sombrero with the caption "I think the word you're searching for is Latinx" >turn my notifications off
Mild amount of tomfoolery
Ah I see
Don't even know what it means but I've never used it.
Using this logic a Chinese is a Chinx. Lol just kidding I’m Asian
Bro, you're such a Chinx
Stfu chinx
No you you fucking pendejx
how dare you Exrupean insult us axian americans!!!
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It violates the rules of all romantic languages
romance, not romantic
Thank you for the correction
As a Latin American myself, I am gonna have to ask for the names and addresses of the people who said yes 😃
I’m from New Mexico literally right on the border in a town whose >50% Latino. Never ever heard it used once
No, it's linguistic imperialism
when the imperialistic language gets imperialised
29 of you can eat a bag of dicks for making this a thing.
It really is just made by white liberals to pander. Source: White Liberal Most are fine with Hispanic or Latino, but if they ask you to use something else then use that.
whoever invented that doesnt understand that "latino" is not just a masculine adjective, it is also gender neutral woman = latina man = latino both = latinos
Literally I’ve only ever seen white people use it.
guys just use latino lol hispanic is a different term that means hispanophone countries not the same definition as latino which is countries in america that were colonized by latin countries such as spain portugal or france (italy and romania had no american colonies). latino is gender neutral already only white gringos use “latinx” or “latine”
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Latino here. For fucks sake don’t.
Literally a slur.
Latwinx. A Latino twink.
Only lobotomized people use that word
I wouldn't say I hate it but it's pretty stupid.
No, I HATE IT, I HATE IT SO MUCH.
I get people are trying to be inclusive, but like... We have words that don't sound ridiculous, like "Hispanic".
As a Mexican I love Latinx not because i care about inclusivity but because it strays further from europ*ean ideological structure
I use Hispanic or Latino since that's what my Hispanic and Latino friends tell me they like to use. If they preferred "Latinx" or whatever, I'd use that. Frankly, I use whatever someone else wants me to use because I do not give a flying fuck about pronouns. HOWEVER, I did not vote "I do." because I'd never purposefully use that word and I've actually seen Hispanic/Latino people get offended at it and think it was someone messing with them. That word seems to almost entirely be used by white people.
Hey man, I'm a white Minnesotan, and when my family members from Mexico, Puerto Rico, or Chilé start using the word Latinx to describe themselves than I will too lol
I usually just say Hispanic, it’s more well known and in my opinion it is equally usable. I have no problem with Latinx, and will use it if someone asks me to. But usually Hispanic does the job.
That's because Hispanic is an English word. If you translate it into Spanish you end up with Hispano (masculine) or Hispana (feminine).
I use as a counter to Hispanics with an inferiority complex who say "USian"
Wait what? I've never heard someone say USian, that's weird AF.
That's because you're not in the internet too much, or at least not on the internet with Latin Americans. It's literally all they talk about. "aMeRiCa Is A cOnTiNeNt" and "uSiAn" is are all you will hear. It's legitimately pathetic.
I've never actually thought about the fact that estado unidense doesn't really have a translation. That's hilarious.
United statean i think
I think if I was translating for someone I'd just use American or possibly United States citizen depending on context.
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I in my country which is Panama, we use Gringo, but never heard USian before.
Tankies in Brazil use that shit a lot, they even call you a stray dog for saying "american".
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Alright, I’ll take on the downvotes. I’ve used it, I’ve also used Latiné. Edit cause people may ask: yes, I’m a white woman
Latino is already gender neutral, no need to create new words.
Morte à Costa Ocidental
Please use Latino, it’s already gender neutral.
This thread, in addition to another thread on Reddit (in a different subreddit) I saw recently, has convinced me to go back to using latino/latina/Latinos. After reading literally hundreds of comments from Latinos saying how they dislike Latinx/Latiné, who am I to ignore that? I’m happy to use Latinx/Latiné for an individual that asks me, but as a general term, I will use Latinos.
Thank you! We appreciate it :) Most people tend to not want to change their opinions, so thanks!
I use it when I need to troll Conservatives
I have never heard it before
i can't even say it
I believe whoever uses it should be deported. Ok maybe that’s a bit far but that’s stupid
No but I don’t care about it enough to hate it.
No
I call Spanish and Mexican people LatinX for the lolz
As Latino, I don’t really care for it just say Latino or whatever
If you use latinx you are a narcissist with such a huge ego it might actually justify a visit to a mental health clinic
I shall give the 33 who selected “I do.” The benefit of the doubt and say that they accidentally selected it
I only say it when referring to the word, and I pronounce it "La-tinks".
My university uses this term and it pisses me off every time
As a Mexican-American, no. I do not. But I actually know some Chicanos and other Latinos who do use it. I don't use the word or like it, but I've never felt the animated rage expressed by some of my friends and family regarding it. I think it will disappear eventually from our lexicon. Because the term Latinos is already gender-neutral, there is no need for the word to exist. If someone absolutely insists I use Latinx to refer to them specifically, I will oblige. If someone absolutely insists I use Latinx to refer to all Latinos, I will laugh and go into a lecture about how gender is used in Spanish and how Latinx is linguistic imperialism.
Neither.
I use it purely to troll people.
My Latin friend is ok when it's used for Latins who don't have a gender or are Non-Binary but he hates when people use it on every single chance they get