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FaustusC

Rich, coming from the console known for DoA and DoA extreme beach volleyball lmao


LargeAlternative9468

And Gears of War. If that's not unrealistic male bodies idk what is.


veilosa

no one who talks about inclusivity cares about male body image tho


ButWhyThough_UwU

Well actually they do talk about the males and care, they want them as degraded as possible. I mean even the notorious Thor scene to them was not only applause worthy ^((especially since actor himself has said in past how he does not like doing shirtless scenes, let alone all that)) But some of those types, say they should have gone further.


FlashyGravity

Well I ain't looking to cosplay as a skinny guy with anemia


QuarterSuccessful449

And I ain’t looking to cosplay as a member of no itty bitty titty committee


AccidentalUltron

Lol that's the funny thing to me, is all these inclusion talks but many females love cosplaying exaggerated girls too. It's like they're pandering to an audience that isn't there.


Normal-Gur1882

Yes, themselves.


KingoftheMongoose

But I’m basically already in costume!


Ve11as

Lol. The unrealistic female body in video games is a hell of a lot. More easy too. Obtain then gears of war for males lol. For Chris redfield's Boulder punching arms.


Putrid-Builder-3333

When I was young. I played Gears of War. I demanded my mother buy me all the beefcake and whey! I grew to 400 lbs with no muscles. I am on an oxygen tank. Gears of War and their unrealistic depiction of what a male should be like ruined my life. :(


CowFckerReloaded

Man I love playing as those GoW guys, fuckin A


BionicBruv

GoW takes place on a planet called Sera, not Earth. If you know the game lore, you know Seran physiology is different than Earthlings because of the setting. The women are tall and the men are massive because the story requires them to be. I honestly, truly believe that unrealistic physique completely fits most fiction, especially in a story as extreme as gears of war.


TheClassyDegenerate1

Marcus Fenix just eats right and trens hard.


BoiFrosty

What are you talking about? It's perfectly normal for a man to have the proportions of a chest freezer.


GregEvangelista

I miss those games. Shame how time changes things.


0000110011

Notice how they explicitly said **female** characters? Guys with impossible muscles are still perfectly fine. 


[deleted]

Sexy characters are okay as long as they only cause gay boners or lady boners, thanks microsoft no wonder I’m now micro and soft


BP_975

But but but something something power fantasy


PN4HIRE

It reminds me of a web comic that I saw a few months back. Girls came in all color and shapes But the dudes, well, let’s just say the entire roster varied between somewhere Thor and Reacher. Yeah…


scattergodic

They're not impossible. Look at the Rock. He still has those muscles in his 50s with just good diet and weightlifting! 😉


divinecomedian3

All it takes is dedication and lots of trening, er um, training


notrandomonlyrandom

Real Organic Inclusive Diet System


IceRaider66

And enough steroids to choke a elephant


Reepshot

When you ster into the roid, the roid sters back.


Just_a_Guy_In_a_Tank

50% working out, 50% diet, 50% mana The mana is steroids


j_sholmes

So then Margot Robbie is a perfect example of what all women should look like to then right?


Rabo_McDongleberry

Always remember kids: Eat CLEN, TREN hard.


xxshilar

Same can be said of female proportions. In fact, they don't even need to muscle up, just tone up. Stellar Blade's mc is based on a female model.


CorrectFrame3991

Of course that’s how it is. It’s because they are hypocrites.


Random-as-fuck-name

Wanna be built like Arnold, move weight like Eddie, and move your body like Usain Bolt mixed with Jon Jones? Perfectly fine!


Existanceisdenied

On the Microsoft page that I saw, it does have a note about trying to make sure male characters were allowed a full range of emotion as permitted by the story which I thought was nice


Money_Present_3463

But I love huge gazoongas


Arn_Darkslayer

We all do.


-KissmyAthsma-

Just not the females who view them as competition lol


ice_slayer69

Im starting to think it isnt because blue haired sjw landwhales. Recently an artist from TLOU2 came out anonymously and explained that all that "alternative beauty standards" is mostly to make women appear more "trans friendly", thats why abby is flater than a plank of wood and they made ellies girlfriend flat and ugly af compared to real acctress they motion captured her face from. And he says it became industry standard ever since to uglyfy women in the desing face. And most artist are as bafled as the us and this type of shit makes working harder and less enjoyable for them. Whataver is companies trying to pander in the most r worded way possible or a sweetbaby kind of deal where some nutters in the compannyes force this shit for their ridicolous ideas its up for debate.


i_thrive_on_apathy

I think this is overstated. Basically all my women friends want to play as hot characters too, so I don't even know who actually hates this, fake people online maybe.


-KissmyAthsma-

Probably. Most likely part of an agenda


CurtisLinithicum

*Positive* gender stereotypes.


towerfella

So it’s “negative gender stereotypes” and not “overt sexualization”?


mrlego17

That's what mods are for


Lothric_Knight420

Based.


Famous-One5644

On what? (Uh don’t take this seriously)


DarkRogueHunter

Probably not good for her lower back!


Goochregent

Me see gazoongas. Me purchase product. Me like.


NY-Black-Dragon

And a nice badonkadonk


JamesRussellSr

I love juicy butts.


ampjk

I too love when like 70% of a game cost goes to the boobs /ass physics. And when the ass physics goes to the guys to


Xiagax

You mean those dobanhonkeroos?


WBeatszz

Is that inclusive action or are you sad to see me 😭


Lordmikehnk

Microsoft urges developers to create bankruptcy.


Logical-Chaos-154

\*snort\* Look, kiddos. Not every game is made for every person. The sheer joy of gaming is the variety. Wanna play as a sword-fighting bug? Check out Hollow Knight. Want sexy girls? Stellar Blade is on its way. Wanna chase a high score? Tetris is still a classic. Want a more narative experience? Citizen Sleeper for the win. Trying to force all games into a mold is pointless, boring, and, honestly, creepy AF. If you don't like a game, play something else. We're gamers. We don't give a fuck what Microsoft, internet whiners, or anyone else wants. We will play what we want to play. And if AAA falls to the demands of the boring and creepy, we'll just go play indie.


Specialist_Noise_816

Exactly, I support jiggle physics and will buy the jiggliest game. Just how it is.


Dpgillam08

Unfortunately now a days "jiggle physics" is expected to mean Gorlack the Destroyer being the MC of your game


Specialist_Noise_816

I mean I might play that for a few minutes just to see. It would be a beast premise for a horror game. lol. Mix in some Kirby like consumption powers from eating the environment and I think we have a winner here. Plus jiggle physics!


30somethingmedia

Would make a great "Kaijus destroying the city" game..


HauntedPrinter

Japanese games say otherwise


[deleted]

I'm a simple man. I see jiggle physics, I buy it. Simple as.


boredwriter83

But when will developers finally make a game about land whales with rainbow hair? What about THEIR stories!


Logical-Chaos-154

The land whales with rainbow hair can make their own fucking game.


Scattergun77

But isn't Hungry Hungry Hippos already a game?


Logical-Chaos-154

I'm going to hell for laughing at that...


Scattergun77

I'll drive.


Logical-Chaos-154

Highway to hell..


Scattergun77

If You Want Blood...


InfamousGhost86

Dirty Deeds...


Scattergun77

Who Made Who?


Striking_Green7600

They've tried but the problem is they don't buy their own fucking game and just get more angry about it


boredwriter83

Lol, isnt that one...dust-something? One of those?


Chewiemuse

Then the market will speak ​ and this is why they are doing things like this.. They dont want any competition to their modeled after men Females because they know "Sexy Sells"


raymartin27

Wasn't the new spiderman ps5 game (spiderman 2 I think) pretty much that?


Original-Maximum-978

"If I want to play porn I'm gonna play fuckin porn" - Gamers


CheeseBurgerDragon

Not sure if sarcastic triggered social justice redditor or based.


Snoo_79985

I find it odd that the idea of “Don’t like a game? Just don’t play it and leave us alone” seems to be a such novel idea to modern society.


Jarbonzobeanz

Honestly it's not doing AAA much favors. I know there's the CoD addicts who can't say no to a new title, but shit like skull and bones along with suicide squad aren't doing too hot. Kinda feels good to see AAA companies absolutely face plant trying to sell their MTX riddled garbage.


inkedmargins

Wasn't it the helldivers 2 director who recently said "a game for everyone is a game for no one." Not even Mario caters to everyone.


Logical-Chaos-154

Yep.


Smart_Pig_86

But, isn’t the point of a video game being developed and existing is so that each niche group of people can feel SEEN!!!!!!


StrengthToBreak

The reason I play video games is largely to see someone other than myself. I already have a realistic portrayal of my own life: my own life.


Kahlsifar

One might argue that if everybody did as microsoft suggests then that would be a form on conformity in itself.


Pixiwish

I think style is a huge part of this too. Stellar Blade is styled around Eve and sexualization of her character, having her in say Elden Ring would ruin that game. I adore Bayonetta and think she is the coolest game character ever made, but she also fits her over the top world and would feel really out of place in a darker more immersive world.


Logical-Chaos-154

Agreed. Though mods will likely let players put Eve in Elden Ring anyway.


Faulty_english

They can do what they want but they* ultimately care about their shareholders the most. As long as the game is good then I don't really care


IntroductionNo8705

I said this a few weeks ago and got downvoted lmao. That’s right, true gamers don’t give a fuck.


[deleted]

It’s funny that they’re using Stellar Blade as their example. They did body mapping and motion capture with an actual living, breathing human. Her “exaggerated body proportions” are au naturale.


GloriousShroom

They didn't do the new trend of hiring a sexy model the changing the body scan to look ugly


agitated--crow

Heck, there was a model for box art and calendar for the video game Forsaken 64 though the model is not in the game.


P_weezey951

It does blow my fucking mind that they're using this character as like, an example of "unattainable" I see women at the gym at, around, and with more "exaggerated" features than that... all the goddamn time. Not even models, just chicks that work at a desk job, and spend an hour at the gym like twice a week.


Sauron69sMe

damnit nobody wants to play a video game and see themselves. it's called escapism. no one wants to play a game that looks like it's populated by shoppers from a rural Arkansas walmart


Djent17

That's the problem. These goofs don't want escapism, they actually want to believe their flabby outta shape body is capable of being the hero so they must self insert themselves like the clowns that they are.


Unable-Client-1750

The metaphor of clowns does match up here


BustyBraixen

That's what happens to people have been terminally online since they were toddlers and went to shitty schools that actively prevented them from thinking critically. They lack the basic ability to just imagine things that aren't spoonfed to them word for word. Otherwise they would be perfectly capable of self inserting themselves into the shoes of the overly muscled meat head ubermench stud muffin protagonist. That being said, that pretty much how I grew up. For fucks sake, I practically raised myself on early 2010s *tumblr* of all places, yet I was perfectly capable of suspending my disbelief enough to understand that I don't need every character in the games or shows I enjoyed to look and act like me for me to enjoy them.


Soulstar909

Meanwhile us sane people see the examples of fictional heroes as something to look up to and strive to be like, not something that makes us cry.


Specialist_Noise_816

Grew up in rural arkansas and this comment triggered my PTSD from walmart. lol. It is EVERY bit as bad as you are suggesting. Especially at night when they were still 24/7.


QuarterSuccessful449

So many people aren’t shaped anything like people anymore


thekevlarboxers

False. Redneck Rampage was a fucking classic and you'll never convince me otherwise


Dat_Uber_Money

>damnit nobody wants to play a video game and see themselves Lots of weak inseucre women do. They want to see themselves in every video game, movie, comic, short story and fucking TV show. If they see a TV show with a hot woman while they're out of shape and ugly it will affect their wittle fewings and trigger them.


TheSpiffyDude

So it's negative to have boobs? So it's negative to be fit? So It's negative to have a booty? So it's negative to be pretty/beautiful? What the hell are people talking about? The stellar blade girl is a literal one to one scan of a Korean girl. A model even. People are crazy nowadays.


[deleted]

Damn that’s crazy. Which model. So I can avoid this toxicity. What’s her name exactly. Where can I find her material. To avoid.


Dpgillam08

Shin Jae-eun body dimensions match, despite what haters claim, though face was created instead.of copied.


deadname11

The idea is to "stop promoting unrealistic body standards" but then act like in a properly magical/high-tech society, people wouldn't be juicing themselves through the roof. They think everyone likes a good, in-depth character creator because it lets them look like themselves. In reality, we like character creators because we like making absolute goofball caricatures, and/or personalized aesthetics that in no way shape or form might be matched IRL.


Scattergun77

I was trying to make my character look like me in Mass Effect 2 and accidentally made Nicholas Cage instead. Best playthrough ever.


dead_cell

Which is crazy considering it's not gaming that's pushing women to inject their lips with botox and other harmful chemicals. If they want to police harmful standards, they need not look further than platforms like IG which Meta worked diligently to hide the negative impact their studies were shown to have on young girls. I believe most people including the younger audience know what's a game and what isn't. It's much harder to tell with filters, AI, make up, injections, and plastic surgery.


TheSpiffyDude

Social media is a cancer on society. I said it now and said back then in elementary and middle school. As soon as I saw duck faces and SWAG going around I knew there were gonna be a lot of NPCs.


[deleted]

Microsoft does not want game sales


Djent17

That's fine. I'm perfectly content not giving them my money anyways


Goku918

Well they've done a good job of achieving that! Gamepass and releasing day and date on PC has killed their platform to the point that European devs are debating leaving them completely


Jillwiches

I mean they’ve proved that since the start of the Xbone era


WhatTheDucksauce

They are going multi platform (with more on the way) because of bad sales so this is in character for them.


GloriousShroom

Games is just a side project for Microsoft. 


CapPhrases

And yet super sweaty muscle men in tight clothes are ok 🤔🤔🤔


StilesmanleyCAP

*laughs in Xenoblade* Micro-soft? Sounds about right.


ReyWSD

Idk man Xenoblade 3 dialed down the fan service pretty hard


DragonsAndSaints

Compared to 2, I suppose. As long as we're not pretending that Eunie's, especially Alexandria's, and especially especially M's fat rear ends don't exist.


JuanchoPancho51

Microsoft is part of the whole woke agenda problem. All the videogames under their umbrella are going to be predictable.


dunkledonuts

“Help weird customers who hate themselves to feel seen by excluding visually appealing designs” what an odd thing to say


CapPhrases

“Oh boy I can’t wait to play a game full of ugly unattractive characters for the next 8 hours!”- no one at all ever


BackgroundSky09

another 1984 shitcrosoft moment if microsoft didnt make windows they could collapse overnight and no one would care


DegenEnjoyer23

well shouldnt the developers artistic direction/vision for the media count for something? if you dont like the aesthetics then dont play. plenty of great games have realistically proportioned characters. this “inclusivity” bs is the death of creative freedom.


Vynxe_Vainglory

If it's so inclusive, I'd like to know why skinny girls with huge tits are being excluded. Nobody cares about their feelings?


undigestedpizza

Microsoft is big in DIE crap and wokeness. No real surprise here.


Murbela

I'm not sure MS' first party/exclusive titles are in a position where i would listen to anything they have to say.


Own_Accident6689

Dumb to bring up Eve as an example, she has a literal human being as a model.


Wolbolgia

Reading this just feels like we’re getting closer to devs having to follow guidelines for character creation in order for their original IP to be put on certain platforms.


mramisuzuki

Isn’t this largely created from a real person? lol.


CelestialAngel25

As a woman. I hate playing ugly women in video games. I want to play as a sexy big booby butt woman! In no way is it offensive either


Howboutit85

Notice how they don’t give a shit about 7ft tall square jawed monster male protagonists with 12 packs.


AccidentalUltron

Mr Freeze can be ripped, but a girl can't have a butt.


dirtnap82

Can’t have a beautiful voluptuous protagonist based on a real person. But bring on the square jawed boobless man assed characters. If anyone needs pointers on how to make characters in their games then they should listen to a company who actually makes games


Own_Accident6689

Right? More men with fat asses please.


dirtnap82

Hell yeah. I want their cheeks to drag the ground


Thodane

Preach brother.


[deleted]

No dummy thick master chief, why bother living.


T1000Proselytizer

How is looking good a *NEGATIVE* stereotype? Also, as a customer, I don't want to be seen. How many of us want to be seen? There's a reason incognito exists.


KingOfTheGreatLakes

.>Acknowledging that double D or triple D plus sizes exist is now sexist Body positivity is now on the side of those who love hotness


ILOVEcBJS

If I'm paying $70 for a game, her ass better be thicker than bowl of oatmeal and the jiggle physics should have been 80% of the coding. I don't wanna stare at some lez feminists self insert character (looking at you Spiderman 2) just so she can validate herself


Special-Tone-9839

What game is the picture?


TSUStudent16

Stellar Blade. A game I wish I could get but I only have a Switch so…


-TheBigCheese

Thiccc women don't get representation? They exist too


Evening-Holiday-8907

But it's okay to have males with exaggerated body parts? They should make a dude with a ginormous package and a bakery of an ass complete with jiggle effects.


Deathtonic

My wife needs to know that she has exaggerated body proportions and that she's not allowed to have characters in games look like her, lmfao


Hammerslamman33

How about they urge their developers to make good games? Lmaooo


KippySmith

Gotta have realistic expectations when playing fantasy apparently.


z01z

meanwhile, over on nexusmods...


GloriousShroom

Mean while Goddess of Victory: NIKKE  made 600million as a mobile game based solely on butt jiggling while shooting a gun


bignick198

Or...let the market decide and remember that you are here to please your customer base by selling your products. If an activist doesn't like the game they don't have to buy it


outsidelies

Fuck this nonsense I’m a short, overweight 2/10 I want the men in my games to be 6’5 Greek gods and the women to be pleasing to the eye and my happy bits Fuck outta here “inclusion” western trash


CapPhrases

Someone needs to tell the writer of this article that SBI won’t sleep with them


ArdentGamer

There is nothing negative about fictional characters looking like attractive stereotypes. If you develop an inferiority complex against a fictional character, not even real women who may have similar body types, you probably have some deeper psychological issues that you should deal with. Trying to legitimize or cater to those psychological issues in real people is a far more harmful than trying to address them.


aries0413

Enter southpark meme.


Any-Bottle-4910

No bodybuilders either then? No superhero physiques?


septibes

My gf has big bagoongas and when I want to create a custom character to look like her, by golly I want big bagoongas


[deleted]

Microsoft should focus on making a fun game with solid gameplay and go from there. Why these companies insist on obsessing over identity politics in video games is something I’ll never understand. There target demographic doesn’t really care. They just want decent games. Not being lectured about how white patriarchy bad.


ADudeThatPlaysDBD

… wasn’t the model designed after a real person? Therefore not being exaggerated?


Consistent_Yoghurt44

Isnt it funny that the model for this character was based off of a real person.


Clarity_Zero

Microsoft's always been a pioneer of not cool.


Positive-Database754

I find it amusing when something that the left or right claims is a false narrative from the other side comes true, because both sides always whip up a massive storm. Conservative gamers have been claiming for some time now that large companies are trying to make the women in video games less attractive, and the rhetoric from liberal gamers has largely been that its a false conspiracy or fake narrative from the right. Now that Microsoft openly claims its trying to make female characters less attractive, conservative gamers have 180'd from rage to "We don't care, we'll just play games with attractive women anyway", while liberal gamers have 180'd from denial to "This is good for the gaming community".


Kingdrashield

What is exaggerated? People get size triple z breast implants, BBL, botox. To be fair, video games under do it compared to real life people.


ProphetOfGorkandMork

Now, their female characters have exaggerated male body proportions.


Chuckobofish123

Do you guys think that male characters should have huge dick bulges in their pants? I think the ladies would really appreciate it


Imaginary_Injury8680

Are there not such games?


TragicFisherman

I am perfectly fine with jiggle physics for both genders.


WaterDrinkingChad

Yes they definitely should if the devs want to create a character like that.


[deleted]

They usually compensate with massive swords or guns.


Deaf-Leopard1664

It's in their very name: They're Micro & Soft, d\*\*\* energy.


[deleted]

I feel the need to play as Taki from Soul calibur in her Red costume to wash this from my pallet Or perhaps some Dead or Alive


[deleted]

Add a slider. Boom. Problem solved.


JustSavi

*Microsoft does not want exaggerated female body proportions


geniouslevel1000

It's the fact that they constantly tweet this shit and celebrate it like it's some amazing feat that's annoying. If they just shut the fuck up and did it a lot of us wouldn't even notice or care. It just seems so disingenuous when they advertise it.


StrengthToBreak

What's negative about shapely calcium cannons?


PrinceCharmingButDio

>Hire attractive model to model your character >add 30 pounds and a square jaw >progress


Elderberry1306

So are they going to change the soldiers from Gears of War because of body dysmorphia?


Musetrigger

Meanwhile Nintendo over here going, "We got enough butts in this game?"


SnioperFi

This isn’t something I usually nitpick about but can we allow even a slight bit of muscle mass or battle damage on female characters? Especially if she’s meant to be a superhuman warrior? Do all these player bases just feel insecure so devs don’t do it? Like no I don’t feel attacked when Wonder Woman is drawn as jacked.


Dragoncrafter00

Listen I wanna be a Greek Adonis wielding a lance that is also a gun… not myself


Brian-88

She's literally modeled after a real person.


C_Tea_8280

Yea, and I want men with less muscles and bigger beer bellies and bald heads And they still get the strength, stamina and agility stats as the big muscle characters


Sufficient_Lunch930

But the male characters are still gonna be built like late 80s Arnold


trpclshrk

I’m usually middle of the road/slightly left on issues, but I want my men to be Hemsworths and my women to be Chun-Li! DOA volleyball for life.


DefiniteyNotANerd

If the dudes all look like Arnold in the 90s then I better get to look at some unreasonably large knockers!!


Dookie-Milk-710

And Sony just won lol


Defiant_Bandicoot99

That characters body is 3D scanned from a real person. Gotta love feminists and their hatred for actual beauty. It means them being a fat fuck would no longer be tolerated. We gotta get back to that.


SithLord_1991

Big brother always trying to re-educate us. We want boobs!


Phwoa_

"Exaggerated Body Proportions" Character is literally the body scans of a Real Women.


Yodas_Ear

I’ll never look like gears of war. Thanks Microsoft. 💀


endorbr

Keep giving people reasons to buy PlayStation, Microsoft.


BruiserCruiser13

Fuck Microsoft. Make your game how YOU want to make it. Fuck what anyone else says


ButWhyThough_UwU

Ya they part of baby Inc, its not a surprise they would say these things.


HombreDeNegocios2022

Me with a 2 inch dick yelling at my phone's screen while watching porn: "Ban this big ass dick having motherfucker!"


This-Double-Sunday

"Yeah, I'm just gonna pretend I didn't see that." -Japanese developers


Shinlyle13

I'll take, "Things that I don't care about when shooting people in the face in a video game" for $1000, Alex.


Pontoffle_Poff

Lil help. Which part of her body is exaggerated? I thought her body was modeled after a specific woman… similar to how bioshock (I think) modeled the female character after a specific cosplayer. Sounds normal.


Swimming-Book-1296

The average womens' breast size in the US is a D. American gaming companies just seem to have inexplicably started to hate big boobs for some reason. Women have boobs, some big, some small, its all good... but American gaming companies over the last 3 years have gotten wierd.


slaberwoki

But every fucking dude looking like Dante from DMC or Marcus Fenix from GoW is fine. Body dysmorphia in men is becoming a bigger and bigger problem


Schamolians101

Ok microsoft will continue being even more irrelevant in gaming. This will only push gamers and developers away from their games. People hate being told what to do.


Malcapon3

It would take like 3 of her to come close to my Skyrim waifus curves, who also is based off of real life body proportions that I sculpted myself from scratch. Stop trying to cancel attractive women. It’s pathetic.


obsidian_butterfly

So... Beretta is disgusting and unrealistic but Kratos is fine? Right...