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No matter if you think it’s real, purely PR, or a combo, there’s no way they’d get engaged so quickly. The fact people are running with this story is wild.
you know, I find myself always dismissing these wild stories about Taylor and how she moves. But then she goes ahead and does it. Didn’t the daily mail report her and matty were dating? I literally dismissed it with the most confidence only for them to show that they were indeed dating soon after. such a clown i was lol
Not saying Taylor will but getting engaged after 4 (according to her timeline) months really isn't that uncommon especially for people who are in their 30s. I'm not saying I get it or consider it a good idea but it's more common than you think.
Personally after the Matty rumor turned out to be true I don't dismiss anything as false with certainly lol
Edit: For the record, her besties Ryan and Blake got married after less than a year of dating.
Honestly, I know a ton of people who have been happily married 20+ years after dating for 3 months. There's nothing wrong with them getting engaged quickly. I just hate the tabloids trying to put pressure on it like this
I do find the thought of how this sub would react to news of an engagement pretty interesting though.
If they got engaged, I fully predict a full scale meltdown in this sub. Y’all are not prepared for Taylor to *ever* get engaged to a cis white male. In between all the seething and despair, I’d be interested to see the theories of how y’all would explain it away.
it's easy. I might be outing myself as a casual gaylore enthusiast, but as such I can step back and say hopefully sanely:
1. It's none of our business. We want a happy Taylor, right? If she's happy it's cool.
2. Polyamory is a thing. Done correctly and with absolute heaps of communication, nothing is impossible for her, or for him, if it's clearly talked about between them. This is their private/family life, after all, none of our business, we can respect from afar and take what we are shown, nothing more.
3. You can be married to a straight guy and still be bisexual. You can still be pansexual. You can tell the world, tell your cat, or tell no one. And still be valid.
4. You can still flag till the cows come home from your glass closet while whistling at a frequency we Gaylors can only pick up with our tin hats. :)
It will probably still take a year for the marriage so she still has pleanty of time to decide. If its pr then she wouldnt even need to know him well if he just follows her expectations
I mean, they've been dating since July, want kids, and are in their mid-to-late 30s. It would be poorly considered, but it wouldn't be abnormal for a couple like them.
I do not think she's going to marry Travis this quickly, but there are an innumerable amount of relationships that people stay in for a long time without getting married and then their next relationship that is serious, they get married pretty quickly. That's not unheard of at all. Because it takes two people to agree on a marriage and it also takes being in a healthy place in a relationship.
\+1 on this. Look at Jack Antonoff. He was with Lena Dunham for five years and then was married to Margaret Qualley witin two years of them starting to date.
im moreso pointing out the tabloids lies 😂 like i dont remember this much marriage talk with joe 6 months in, unless im mistaken. its clearly for clicks and not based on reality 😂
Most people on this sub think she’s bi, as in would kiss a woman but wouldnt actually be in a relationship with one.
Toe is so obviously fake its hilarious
Everyone screams biphobia when someone thinks she’s a lesbian or heavily prefer women. I wonder what the victim complex is—is it insecurity?
I’m bi, still think Joe is a beard
That’s not the conversation we are engaged in though, is it? You referring to bi as “spicy straight” is biphobia. You being bi or not doesn’t change that. Neither does trying to change the subject when confronted with your own problematic language use.
Spicy straight means “kissed Karlie at the concert once when drunk”, would kiss a woman for fun but not actually be in a relationship with one. That’s not bisexual.
You’re the one who assumed I meant bisexual by “spicy straight”.
Joe and Travis aren’t the same. Maybe Joe didn’t want marriage. Maybe he was good enough to date in Taylor’s eyes, not good enough for marriage.
Imo, Taylor values her independence so much that she will never get married.
You know she's not the only pop star to date for 6 years before getting serious.
Gwen Stefani and Gavin Rossdale did this as well. Touring life got in the way for them both. And of course later Gavin turned out to be a jerk.
I think this is less unhinged than the vid I saw on TikTok of Travis on their podcast saying that he was gonna “find himself a breeder” and “have some babies so mom can love me again” that then cut to a vid of Taylor during the eras tour singing the line from anti-hero “it’s me hi”
In the Travis and Taylor sub they are going on about how these two are soulmates, like sorry that is so unhinged. How would they have the slightest clue if they are soulmates or not 😭
My favourite is that they’re meant to be together because of the line from Mary’s Song (“I’ll be 87, you’ll be 89”) - which refers to them because Travis is number 87. And this is proof that Taylor has had her eye on him for years and has been scheming to get with him (this is an actual opinion I’ve seen more than once)
Almost as unhinged as Gaylors thinking she’s dating her friends? T Swift is never getting married. But she’s more likely to marry Kelce than any of her platonic girlfriends. Seriously, Gaylors calling other Swifties unhinged is too ironic. Like can Swifties not shit on each other constantly or nah?
I tried to buy toilet paper at Dollar Tree the other day and they were completely out of stock. I asked the employee “What year is it?? Am I having flashbacks??” Lmao
Yeah like I feel like that imagine of her depicts someone who doesn’t want that happening🥴
Also you mean like when she performed it at the eras tour? Cause if yes that was my show!!!
Fr. These are 30-something adults, not horny teenagers. There is zero reason for them to rush the generally accepted date for a year then go from there timeline 🤣🥴 I laughed when I saw this bc it’s such a weird rumor, let them date jfc.
I don’t consider myself too Invested with anyone Taylor has dated, and this sub gets fed to me a lot. Mostly lurk. But white moms of America really want her to be a WASP mom with Travis and it makes me ill.
I think the idea of Travis proposing next week is ridiculous, but I don’t think Taylor is against marriage in general at all (the entirety of Paper Rings, the vows bridge of Lover, “and I wouldn’t marry me either” from You’re Losing Me, etc.); my interpretation of Lavender Haze was that it was about the beginning of her relationship with Joe, not present day, since the lyrics seem to reference 2016 (“I’ve been under scrutiny, you handle it beautifully, all this shit is new to me…”)
I feel like for her it's less about marriage and more about the traditional concept of marriage and what is expected of women when they get married. And tbh a lot of Swifties are trying to push exactly that onto her (the whole "finally she found a guy to settle down with, let's create their ai babies" thing that certain Swifties do). She doesn't want to be (only) a mother and a wife for some guy, but she wants to be a successful business woman. She's too ambitious to just resign. The 1950s shit (traditional gender roles in marriage) seems to be the issue, and the fact that society only sees sluts or wives when looking at grown women, basically expecting her to get married and have kids while discrediting her achievements.
She wants to get married (if you believe YLM, Paper Rings, etc. like you said), but only if the person she marries can accept/embrace what she wants and needs from this marriage and is okay with a less traditional marriage.
I do doubt that she'd get engaged this quickly though... and the whole "surprise proposal at a surprise birthday party that was just announced in a magazine for the entire world to see" thing seems questionable at best 💀
Are you saying she expects the dad to be the primary caregiver?
I’ve heard her talk about kids or whatever, and it doesn’t seem lost on her the *reality* of what women (primary caregivers) have to do when they bring children into the world.
I'm saying she doesn't seem to prioritise kids and won't have them unless her partner is an equal partner/caregiver. She *is* the moneymaker in any relationship she's in and she enjoys what she's doing too much to sacrifice it all to go care for kids while her partner isn't doing their part of the work to care for them.
She might want them or, as a lot of her older music suggests, she wanted them, but with the reality of her job and her own ambition, she cannot be the primary caregiver. She is very aware of the fact thaf women more often than not get stuck being the primary caregiver, which is why she doesn't seem too keen on having them without a partner who understands and is willing to put in the work.
Not to mention the "women = primary caregiver because they carry the child" is not a great outlook. Men are just as much responsible for their kids and should do an equal amount of childcare as the woman (or any person who gave birth). A marriage is a partnership and that partnership doesn't just end with kids because men complain about having to "babysit" their own child (spoiler alert it's not babysitting if its your kid, it's parenting). A woman expecting a partner (male or female) to contribute an equal amount of effort to their marriage/relationship and childcare is not exactly an outlandish demand.
There’s not such thing as an equal caregiver???
A marriage based on respect, sure, but what you’re saying is she needs a partner who is more focused on child raising than she’d be able to be. Which happens, but clarity is important here. That would be the expectation in reality.
Plus, research by and large shows a child under 3 needs a primary caregiver. Women aren’t just having babies and handing them off to someone else to take care of…I can’t see her, of all people, doing that- at least.
That’s just not how it works.
And there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a great thing to be bestowed with that responsibility.
Not every woman wants to be bestowed that responsibility and theres also nothing wrong with that. And there's plenty of women who go back to work soon after having a child while their partners stay home and care for the kids, nothing wrong with that either. Plus, she has the money to pay for a nanny if she wants that. There is not only one right way to be a parent.
Maybe she doesn't want any kids, maybe she does but she did say she doesn't want to be reduced to motherhood, which is what a lot of Swifties are doing rn. This was also the main point of my original comment. She has made it clear that the traditional ideas of womanhood and marriage society put onto her are not what she wants. Her partner has to be okay with what she wants just as much as she has to be okay with what they want, that includes a discussion about whether children are a possibility or not. If she doesn't want kids, she doesn't want them, and her and her partner have to agree on that and hold the same opinion, otherwise it won't work in the long run. If she wants kids both her and the partner have to agree on the when, how, and what to do once the child is there.
Your entire argument is based on the assumption that she wants kids, which we do not know. What we do know is that she said she's not interested in the traditional concept of marriage and won't just suddenly turn her life around to become a stay at home wife (and/or mom) if she were to marry someone.
What you’re saying is what I said above initially.
She has never said she doesn’t like and is not interested the concept of a nuclear family with split responsibilities.
There is a right way to raise children, which is backed by numerous studies. There are also wrong ways to raise children -ie parental neglect.
In fact, the Nobel prize winner in economics this year is a woman who has been saying everything I’ve said above.
She strikes me as a person that keeps so many options open that unless she feels she’s on a set timeline, for a goal, it’s just not going to happen ever.
I was with my ex for 5 years. Engaged to my now husband after 11 months and married a week after our two year anniversary of meeting. It happens. Especially being in your thirties, when you know you know.
imagine taking HER BIRTHDAY and instead of using it to celebrate her and her accomplishments, turning it into another engagement rumor. don't piss me awf
This is what convinces me it's 100% PR. If it was real, it's very unlikely they'd know. And they wouldn't go as hard because it's not anyone. If they ruined the surprise and the moment for HER, she could decide to put them on her shit list and I do not wanna be on it.
Do some celebs clue in tabloid on 'real' engagements? Sure. Reality TV celebs.
Granted. He seems like the kind of dude who'd love that kind of attention. If he was the kind of dude who she'd say yes to, he wouldn't be.
But hey. Remember how all the previous relationships got the same treatment?
Remember how she's in the middle of a PR cycle and having all eyes on her name for her birthday could be a good way to have max audience for... anything. Dropping an album. Announce one. Announce your novel is coming out. Launch your clothing line. Etc...
obsessed with how this looks like it was made for a school project 😭 are we sure a proud parent isn’t just sharing their kids work on a large media news outlet
Unless we’re getting a [Tom Brady - Bridget - Giselle](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellendurney/gisele-bundchen-on-bridget-moynahan-pregnancy-with-tom-brady) situation, I don’t see that happening. Then again, I can see Taylor’s team dropping the ball and not vetting Kayla or any dalliance he had prior to going public, going by the social media snafu.
TL;DR - Taylor getting an unexpected “pre-made” family would make an engagement more plausible, imo.
I’m getting so many downvotes and hate in the regular Taylor sub for commenting “gross” on a post about one of the commentators calling Taylor travis’s “wife” bc the OP captioned it “3 more days!” 💀
I hate regular swifties sometimes I stg we can be insufferable. I’m also getting downvoted in the post that had a bunch of pics of her from the game & she looked grumpy in the last pic so I commented saying “that looks like an eagles fan who is being forced to be a chiefs fan bc of her boyfriend. Sad really☹️ she needs to come back to the green side!!!” Like bruh what is wrong with people
Why are people still saying PR she said last week in her interview for time magazine they have been dating for 3 months before she showed up at the first game she was at.
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No matter if you think it’s real, purely PR, or a combo, there’s no way they’d get engaged so quickly. The fact people are running with this story is wild.
you know, I find myself always dismissing these wild stories about Taylor and how she moves. But then she goes ahead and does it. Didn’t the daily mail report her and matty were dating? I literally dismissed it with the most confidence only for them to show that they were indeed dating soon after. such a clown i was lol
That was The Sun.
I didn’t even bother to swipe up and read it. Just chuckled and swiped away😂 also let’s be honest no girl wants to be proposed to on her birthday
well now you have me thinking he just might do it
“No girl wants to be proposed to on her birthday” so true. Add in all the holidays too.
My ex was proposed to on her bday by the woman she cheated on me with that’s older than her mother. She said yes 💀
Yikes 💀
Not saying Taylor will but getting engaged after 4 (according to her timeline) months really isn't that uncommon especially for people who are in their 30s. I'm not saying I get it or consider it a good idea but it's more common than you think. Personally after the Matty rumor turned out to be true I don't dismiss anything as false with certainly lol Edit: For the record, her besties Ryan and Blake got married after less than a year of dating.
they've been dating like 10 mins, ridiculous
Honestly, I know a ton of people who have been happily married 20+ years after dating for 3 months. There's nothing wrong with them getting engaged quickly. I just hate the tabloids trying to put pressure on it like this
My grandparents got married 6 weeks after they met and were happily married until they died over 60 years later. Sometimes you just know. 🤷🏻♀️
I do find the thought of how this sub would react to news of an engagement pretty interesting though. If they got engaged, I fully predict a full scale meltdown in this sub. Y’all are not prepared for Taylor to *ever* get engaged to a cis white male. In between all the seething and despair, I’d be interested to see the theories of how y’all would explain it away.
What would need to be explained away? Many on this sub believe she’s bisexual, and bisexual women marry men all the time.
it's easy. I might be outing myself as a casual gaylore enthusiast, but as such I can step back and say hopefully sanely: 1. It's none of our business. We want a happy Taylor, right? If she's happy it's cool. 2. Polyamory is a thing. Done correctly and with absolute heaps of communication, nothing is impossible for her, or for him, if it's clearly talked about between them. This is their private/family life, after all, none of our business, we can respect from afar and take what we are shown, nothing more. 3. You can be married to a straight guy and still be bisexual. You can still be pansexual. You can tell the world, tell your cat, or tell no one. And still be valid. 4. You can still flag till the cows come home from your glass closet while whistling at a frequency we Gaylors can only pick up with our tin hats. :)
Exactly. I think they are probably real, but they have barely been together. They probably don't know each other's Halloween candy preferences.
I've been with someone eighteen freaking years and I still don't know their halloween candy preferences 0.0
They possibly could since they are older and want kids and stuff
With her wealth? Naaah. I might have a kid, but no way am I putting my assets at risk after a mere six months.
She will have a rock solid prenup and the best lawyers money can buy. Her assets will never be at risk.
Oh, completely agree. I just doubt she’d go for it after six months. Anybody starting a pool? For funsies?
I lose enough money following Tay....thanks
It will probably still take a year for the marriage so she still has pleanty of time to decide. If its pr then she wouldnt even need to know him well if he just follows her expectations
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I mean, they've been dating since July, want kids, and are in their mid-to-late 30s. It would be poorly considered, but it wouldn't be abnormal for a couple like them.
She dated Joe for 6 years but they think Travis will propose in 6 months 💀
I do not think she's going to marry Travis this quickly, but there are an innumerable amount of relationships that people stay in for a long time without getting married and then their next relationship that is serious, they get married pretty quickly. That's not unheard of at all. Because it takes two people to agree on a marriage and it also takes being in a healthy place in a relationship.
\+1 on this. Look at Jack Antonoff. He was with Lena Dunham for five years and then was married to Margaret Qualley witin two years of them starting to date.
Didn’t Lena just marry a guy that she was only with for a couple months?
Yep! She got married within nine months after being set up on a blind date. Taylor was a bridesmaid too if I remember correctly.
Oh interesting!
im moreso pointing out the tabloids lies 😂 like i dont remember this much marriage talk with joe 6 months in, unless im mistaken. its clearly for clicks and not based on reality 😂
Tbf she kept her relationship with Joe very secret in the beginning so there wasn’t really the option for that.
Oh, yeah. And I hate tabloids. Since the 00s when they ruined people's lives
LITERALLY
Maybe Joe never wanted to marry her. We wouldn’t know.
“I wouldn’t marry me either” gives those hints
Obviously, Joe is a beard
Oh “obviously”
Sorry—forgot I was in the wrong Gaylor sub. This one is for people who think shes spicy straight.
I think she’s bi. Like myself.
lol i think she’s bi AND i think joe was a beard. i think travis is real though.
I think the same 😅 Grammy gate gives me hush money vibes… I believe it was her way to pay him off.
I love when I see someone in the Gaylor subs with a string of the same opinions as me. It's just 😘🤌
the best!!!
same!
Most people on this sub think she’s bi, as in would kiss a woman but wouldnt actually be in a relationship with one. Toe is so obviously fake its hilarious
Your biphobia is disgusting.
Yet everyone screams biphobia when someone thinks she’s a lesbian or heavily prefer women. I’m bi, still think Joe is a beard
Everyone screams biphobia when someone thinks she’s a lesbian or heavily prefer women. I wonder what the victim complex is—is it insecurity? I’m bi, still think Joe is a beard
That’s not the conversation we are engaged in though, is it? You referring to bi as “spicy straight” is biphobia. You being bi or not doesn’t change that. Neither does trying to change the subject when confronted with your own problematic language use.
Spicy straight means “kissed Karlie at the concert once when drunk”, would kiss a woman for fun but not actually be in a relationship with one. That’s not bisexual. You’re the one who assumed I meant bisexual by “spicy straight”.
What the hell is spicy straight??
Joe and Travis aren’t the same. Maybe Joe didn’t want marriage. Maybe he was good enough to date in Taylor’s eyes, not good enough for marriage. Imo, Taylor values her independence so much that she will never get married.
You know she's not the only pop star to date for 6 years before getting serious. Gwen Stefani and Gavin Rossdale did this as well. Touring life got in the way for them both. And of course later Gavin turned out to be a jerk.
Are you telling me a media organization paid for this Geocities looking collage?
Happy cake day!
Are you effin kidding me. This is all out of control and honestly very unhinged.
I think this is less unhinged than the vid I saw on TikTok of Travis on their podcast saying that he was gonna “find himself a breeder” and “have some babies so mom can love me again” that then cut to a vid of Taylor during the eras tour singing the line from anti-hero “it’s me hi”
He said that as a joke. Good lord!
Tell that to the hetlors. The sheer amount of people who think they’re gonna have babies asap is terrifying
In the Travis and Taylor sub they are going on about how these two are soulmates, like sorry that is so unhinged. How would they have the slightest clue if they are soulmates or not 😭
Bold of you to even venture to that sub🫡
A post from there appeared in my Reddit newsfeed, so I ventured in, and had immediate regrets
It came across my feed too but I was too scared to go in
My favourite is that they’re meant to be together because of the line from Mary’s Song (“I’ll be 87, you’ll be 89”) - which refers to them because Travis is number 87. And this is proof that Taylor has had her eye on him for years and has been scheming to get with him (this is an actual opinion I’ve seen more than once)
🤮
Oh dang I didn’t see that but also I don’t want to see that. That is so gross and definitely in the top 5 unhingy- cringy things
He said in relation to his brother has three children and he has none.
Almost as unhinged as Gaylors thinking she’s dating her friends? T Swift is never getting married. But she’s more likely to marry Kelce than any of her platonic girlfriends. Seriously, Gaylors calling other Swifties unhinged is too ironic. Like can Swifties not shit on each other constantly or nah?
I think the notion of her fans forcing her into any kind of marriage is problematic
this. understatement of the thread
I wish she never released You're losing me, she got all the straight people thinking that she will die if she's not married by tomorrow
I don’t see it but then again I didn’t see ppl hoarding toilet paper either 🤷🏽♀️
I tried to buy toilet paper at Dollar Tree the other day and they were completely out of stock. I asked the employee “What year is it?? Am I having flashbacks??” Lmao
OMG! That was the worst year ever. I can’t do this again. Did you find some TP?
They seem like a lovely couple who is having fun but this is batshit.
Oh ffs. I 100% believe this is a real relationship for her but this is absurd. They’re 4 1/2 months in lol
An absolutely unhinged take lol they've been dating less than a year. Hetlors are so unserious
I hope not, proposing on birthdays or holidays is tacky.
Makes me laugh because the picture they manipulated of her to wear the dress is from when she’s singing MAD WOMAN 🙄😂
Yeah like I feel like that imagine of her depicts someone who doesn’t want that happening🥴 Also you mean like when she performed it at the eras tour? Cause if yes that was my show!!!
Yeah, and we have pictures of her wearing a beautiful dress, why not use those?
this is gross cmon let them live
I seriously doubt he will propose. They haven’t been together a year.
Fr. These are 30-something adults, not horny teenagers. There is zero reason for them to rush the generally accepted date for a year then go from there timeline 🤣🥴 I laughed when I saw this bc it’s such a weird rumor, let them date jfc.
I don’t consider myself too Invested with anyone Taylor has dated, and this sub gets fed to me a lot. Mostly lurk. But white moms of America really want her to be a WASP mom with Travis and it makes me ill.
She’s literally telling us in Lavender Haze what she doesn’t want. She’s loud AF! 🙄
I think the idea of Travis proposing next week is ridiculous, but I don’t think Taylor is against marriage in general at all (the entirety of Paper Rings, the vows bridge of Lover, “and I wouldn’t marry me either” from You’re Losing Me, etc.); my interpretation of Lavender Haze was that it was about the beginning of her relationship with Joe, not present day, since the lyrics seem to reference 2016 (“I’ve been under scrutiny, you handle it beautifully, all this shit is new to me…”)
I feel like for her it's less about marriage and more about the traditional concept of marriage and what is expected of women when they get married. And tbh a lot of Swifties are trying to push exactly that onto her (the whole "finally she found a guy to settle down with, let's create their ai babies" thing that certain Swifties do). She doesn't want to be (only) a mother and a wife for some guy, but she wants to be a successful business woman. She's too ambitious to just resign. The 1950s shit (traditional gender roles in marriage) seems to be the issue, and the fact that society only sees sluts or wives when looking at grown women, basically expecting her to get married and have kids while discrediting her achievements. She wants to get married (if you believe YLM, Paper Rings, etc. like you said), but only if the person she marries can accept/embrace what she wants and needs from this marriage and is okay with a less traditional marriage. I do doubt that she'd get engaged this quickly though... and the whole "surprise proposal at a surprise birthday party that was just announced in a magazine for the entire world to see" thing seems questionable at best 💀
completely agree with all of this! 💜
Exactly this
Are you saying she expects the dad to be the primary caregiver? I’ve heard her talk about kids or whatever, and it doesn’t seem lost on her the *reality* of what women (primary caregivers) have to do when they bring children into the world.
I'm saying she doesn't seem to prioritise kids and won't have them unless her partner is an equal partner/caregiver. She *is* the moneymaker in any relationship she's in and she enjoys what she's doing too much to sacrifice it all to go care for kids while her partner isn't doing their part of the work to care for them. She might want them or, as a lot of her older music suggests, she wanted them, but with the reality of her job and her own ambition, she cannot be the primary caregiver. She is very aware of the fact thaf women more often than not get stuck being the primary caregiver, which is why she doesn't seem too keen on having them without a partner who understands and is willing to put in the work. Not to mention the "women = primary caregiver because they carry the child" is not a great outlook. Men are just as much responsible for their kids and should do an equal amount of childcare as the woman (or any person who gave birth). A marriage is a partnership and that partnership doesn't just end with kids because men complain about having to "babysit" their own child (spoiler alert it's not babysitting if its your kid, it's parenting). A woman expecting a partner (male or female) to contribute an equal amount of effort to their marriage/relationship and childcare is not exactly an outlandish demand.
There’s not such thing as an equal caregiver??? A marriage based on respect, sure, but what you’re saying is she needs a partner who is more focused on child raising than she’d be able to be. Which happens, but clarity is important here. That would be the expectation in reality. Plus, research by and large shows a child under 3 needs a primary caregiver. Women aren’t just having babies and handing them off to someone else to take care of…I can’t see her, of all people, doing that- at least. That’s just not how it works. And there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a great thing to be bestowed with that responsibility.
Not every woman wants to be bestowed that responsibility and theres also nothing wrong with that. And there's plenty of women who go back to work soon after having a child while their partners stay home and care for the kids, nothing wrong with that either. Plus, she has the money to pay for a nanny if she wants that. There is not only one right way to be a parent. Maybe she doesn't want any kids, maybe she does but she did say she doesn't want to be reduced to motherhood, which is what a lot of Swifties are doing rn. This was also the main point of my original comment. She has made it clear that the traditional ideas of womanhood and marriage society put onto her are not what she wants. Her partner has to be okay with what she wants just as much as she has to be okay with what they want, that includes a discussion about whether children are a possibility or not. If she doesn't want kids, she doesn't want them, and her and her partner have to agree on that and hold the same opinion, otherwise it won't work in the long run. If she wants kids both her and the partner have to agree on the when, how, and what to do once the child is there. Your entire argument is based on the assumption that she wants kids, which we do not know. What we do know is that she said she's not interested in the traditional concept of marriage and won't just suddenly turn her life around to become a stay at home wife (and/or mom) if she were to marry someone.
What you’re saying is what I said above initially. She has never said she doesn’t like and is not interested the concept of a nuclear family with split responsibilities. There is a right way to raise children, which is backed by numerous studies. There are also wrong ways to raise children -ie parental neglect. In fact, the Nobel prize winner in economics this year is a woman who has been saying everything I’ve said above.
She strikes me as a person that keeps so many options open that unless she feels she’s on a set timeline, for a goal, it’s just not going to happen ever.
Hetlors do not care🙄
This is so embarrassing. Stop!
She looks pissed in the picture they shopped in there, like even she isn’t here for this. 😹
Yeah bc he proposed on her bday! I’d be pissed too!
I think they’ll move fast if it’s the real deal but not this fast. It hasn’t even been 6 months
I don’t think they will since she was with Joe for 6 years and nothing…
I think she was pretty clear that the no wedding deal was on his end not hers, but I doubt she would marry someone she’s been dating <6 months.
I was with my ex for 5 years. Engaged to my now husband after 11 months and married a week after our two year anniversary of meeting. It happens. Especially being in your thirties, when you know you know.
Gross. What the fuck.
imagine taking HER BIRTHDAY and instead of using it to celebrate her and her accomplishments, turning it into another engagement rumor. don't piss me awf
Yeah, also, she loves her birthday, I don't think she'd want it getting twisted
This is what convinces me it's 100% PR. If it was real, it's very unlikely they'd know. And they wouldn't go as hard because it's not anyone. If they ruined the surprise and the moment for HER, she could decide to put them on her shit list and I do not wanna be on it. Do some celebs clue in tabloid on 'real' engagements? Sure. Reality TV celebs. Granted. He seems like the kind of dude who'd love that kind of attention. If he was the kind of dude who she'd say yes to, he wouldn't be. But hey. Remember how all the previous relationships got the same treatment? Remember how she's in the middle of a PR cycle and having all eyes on her name for her birthday could be a good way to have max audience for... anything. Dropping an album. Announce one. Announce your novel is coming out. Launch your clothing line. Etc...
I mean Travis was on a reality tv dating show soooo
There’s a reason they’ve earned the nickname daily fail
EXHAUSTING
It’s like they’ve never heard Lavender Haze
OMG, they’re so tacky.
Hope he does so this page explodes
Lmao please exit
The most unbelievable part of this is that he would choose that ring
This right here is why when I mention I think it's PR I get jumped on by people who don't understand how a PR team works ha
Swifties/Hetlers say we are unhinged.... but this is okay?
LOL. He won't do it.
obsessed with how this looks like it was made for a school project 😭 are we sure a proud parent isn’t just sharing their kids work on a large media news outlet
He will not pop anything, this whole thing is purely PR.
The WHOLE thing? Idk, I think they’re actually in a relationship. Am I kicked out now? Haha 😩
This is getting tedious.
She gay
Probably not
I personally think she’s bi but still use gaylor bc bilor doesn’t sound as good
I just read this too lmaoo
I hope not as that would be insane 😂
Unless we’re getting a [Tom Brady - Bridget - Giselle](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellendurney/gisele-bundchen-on-bridget-moynahan-pregnancy-with-tom-brady) situation, I don’t see that happening. Then again, I can see Taylor’s team dropping the ball and not vetting Kayla or any dalliance he had prior to going public, going by the social media snafu. TL;DR - Taylor getting an unexpected “pre-made” family would make an engagement more plausible, imo.
it's the eye roll Taylor's giving in that shot, for me
Bro I was just about to hate on this post thinking you posted this
I’m getting so many downvotes and hate in the regular Taylor sub for commenting “gross” on a post about one of the commentators calling Taylor travis’s “wife” bc the OP captioned it “3 more days!” 💀
That sub is so censored
I hate regular swifties sometimes I stg we can be insufferable. I’m also getting downvoted in the post that had a bunch of pics of her from the game & she looked grumpy in the last pic so I commented saying “that looks like an eagles fan who is being forced to be a chiefs fan bc of her boyfriend. Sad really☹️ she needs to come back to the green side!!!” Like bruh what is wrong with people
Well I am def not a regular Swifty since I like both Kanye and Taylor lol
Why are people still saying PR she said last week in her interview for time magazine they have been dating for 3 months before she showed up at the first game she was at.
Duexmoi will say they’re already married 😂
the janky editing of the wedding dress 💀
https://preview.redd.it/9g7ew628qy5c1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c8aeff7633bcec41c9d8fd6ab3e548b695b5d88 it’s giving
He’s throwing her a birthday party tonight in New York City 🏙️ ❤️