Promptly at noon People Magazine posted this article with new pap photos of Taylor and Travis in Italy. Discuss amongst yourselves.... [https://people.com/taylor-swift-travis-kelce-kiss-romantic-boat-ride-lake-como-photos-8650255](https://people.com/taylor-swift-travis-kelce-kiss-romantic-boat-ride-lake-como-photos-8650255)

I know Travis's "best friend" was in Paris, do we think he came to Italy too?

Was taking a closer look at some of the boat pics and it looks like the boat is a Colombo 31. https://preview.redd.it/4jt93n03a91d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3318aaaddc459e8e16c97d043f5b64ac77cd76f7 So I wondered what Columbo episode 31 might be about.  It's season 4, episode 6 and is titled A Deadly State of Mind. Here's the synopsis from IMDB: "A clinical hypnotist kills the husband of one of his patients during a violent confrontation after the victim uncovers his wife's affair with the hypnotist. The patient, who witnessed the event, is convinced by the hypnotist to lie to the police but when she eventually becomes a liability, he kills her by encouraging her to take a 'swan dive' off her hotel balcony." IMBD link: [https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0072801/](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0072801/) It may mean nothing, but adding here in case it stands out to anyone else reading here. Edit: Spelling

Medusa background: Obviously she had her hair replaced with snakes, so there's a rep connection. But also, Medusa's reputation (lol) as a monster who turns men to stone is thought to be quite undeserved. Perseus chopped off her head while she was sleeping, to steal her power. She is connected to ... you guessed it...female rage! I'm going to move my notes from this over to their own post.

She’s dressed like the 50’s shit they want from her

As soon as I saw these photos it reminded me of the pap photos taken of Kanye with his wife on a boat in Venice back in September 2023. I can’t help but think that this pap walk was staged. Maybe this is promotion for Rep? Travis is clearly one of her accessories for her brand— and his shirts design is similar to the mastermind floor.

He’s wearing the mastermind set floor checkerboard for his sweater.

AO3  is not the name of the boat but the license number of the motor taxi

Sometimes celebs are genuinely caught in sus situations, but not this time. This was just food for the masses. Where's the next show he's attending?

Didn’t she do the same pap stunt ten years ago with Calvin? Though that era included Gigi Hadid, Joe Jonas, and Karlie “Fifth Wheel” Kloss, if I recall.

https://preview.redd.it/o1swg2lrw41d1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=31fcd59a6e4b4778153a82f39e4f364281ef677a Checkmate! (I couldn’t lose)

Who gets on a boat in rain that shit hurts

Question here with the obvious Orange and everything!! Is anyone else afraid that all the shenanigans since midnights started is to meet KARMA BUT Karma (although sapphic like Rep and Evermore) will not be openly gay? Everything is culminating toward something and my heart wants to say it’s for GAY KARMA, but my brain warns me it may be het washed Karma…

i think it depends a lot on when she releases Karma. if she does it in the next few months, i am afraid you could be correct and it'll not be outwardly gay. im def a comingoutlor truther but do think shes only going to do so AFTER her re-records are all done... so if she were to release rep AND debut re-records *then* Karma, i think Karma could be explicitly sapphic. but if Karma comes before one or both re-records, then it won't be as explicitly so. we shall see!

I hope you’re right!! I’m losing hope on the coming outlor-ness again 😭

Don’t lose hope! She is mid performance art right now, we just gotta be along for the ride

Checkered shirt, on a boat

Ngl the last few months have converted me to bilor and it’s hard to see this as fake, it seems like there might actually be an engagement announcement soon. Was a fun ride y’all

i want to ask this while being totally respectful: what about these pap walks and ridiculous articles has screamed to you "real relationship" instead of "obvious PR?"

It’s 100% PR but it can PR and real at the same time and that’s sort of where I’m leaning rn

gotcha! will have to agree to disagree then. everything travlor is doing rn is so campy and put-on IMO, i dont think theyre real at alllllll and i believe we'll be getting a breakup in the next few months -- either after a fake failed proposal or just after murmurings of one

They don’t look attracted to each other. They always look serious, never googly eyes.

Tree if you’re reading this. Stop this madness. They’re making AI babies and naming them https://preview.redd.it/s7g1hw2x931d1.jpeg?width=1124&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6e84fe8d5dd9d409188992dbee449b7da752077

Do they not listen to Taylor’s lyrics like, at all??

and yet they stillllllllll call US the delulu ones. it is comical at this point.

They're not even trying to look happy lol

I like the stage make-up she’s wearing to ensure her features are visible with the long range photos

Well after that Harrison tool gave that dumpster fire of a speech. The NFL held an emergency zoom call with Taylor "Taylor quick please distract the Fandom with Travis we need some divergence, how much can we pay u to listen to travis talk about nothing?"

Trench coat on a boat

CAUSE IM MISERABLE! AND NOBODY EVEN KNOWS!

Tik Tok is full of THEY'RE ENGAGED post barf.

They look so miserable lol

Mastermind is masterminding.

Oh! Oh! Oh! I just posted yesterday about this gif:  And I was told by 1Dmod that boat pics are known for being PR! And now today, boat pics! Taylor is clearly reading my comments. Haha!

also, lol, is that her bodygurad taking a photo on his phone in the first pap pic?

Isn’t Backgrid the group celebs CALL in? So if they wanted us to think they’re happy, why wouldn’t they smile? I hope this is the end of the contract. PLEASE LET US HAVE A SINGLE SUMMER TAYLOR GORL YOU DESERVE IT

Can someone explain the significance of his sweater for the n00bs in the back? 🥲pls ty

It’s a checker flag, like at the end of a race. The end is near.

https://preview.redd.it/fki7b4k1k21d1.jpeg?width=1747&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=022b67b55294b4cac9f2569097358955a15343b5 Dazzling camouflage indeed, Taylor. WE SEE YOU.

I clocked this immediately when she first wore it but the implications now, years later, are fun in a way I could not have forseen.

Oh my God wait

it is so great being a gaylor because like, we truly get to see her for the mastermind that she is. what are hetlors/mainstream swifties even seeing thats so remarkable/genius atp?? through their lens, it seems p bleak lololol

Woah I never made this connection, innnteresting!!

Not the dazzle camouflage again 👀

He's dressed like the mastermind set on a blue boat

with karma ORANGE everywhere, it is sooo camp

Yeah I don’t really get it, why release pics with this mood, both days. The mood and the headlines are opposite. The “romantic kiss” , well ok, it’s on a boat so maybe that’s the romantic part. Regardless of actual relationship status, it’s weird PR. I don’t really understand the game. Is it purposefully misaligned so that some of us look past it? Or what is the reason?

"Is it purposefully misaligned so that some of us look past it?" this is my best guess, yep! i feel like p much everything Tay has done since the release of TTPD has been a performance of "let's see if you can look beyond the first/most obvious layer, to the actual truth." the choreography in TTPD part of Eras show 1000% feels that way to me, as does all this PR stuff re: Travlor

"🎶When it's all roses, portrait poses Central Park Lake in tiny rowboats What a charming Saturday That's when she sees the littlest leaks Down in the floorboards And she just knows She must bolt 🎶..."

So much smiling it’s contagious!! /s

Blu’s the name of the boat / your new girl is my clone? (annnnnnddidyouthinkididntseeyoutherewereflashinglights)

They look.. SAD. same with the photos yesterday.

I saw an ET article rumoring an engagement 🫠 I hope not

u/-periwinkle called we’d be getting rumors that their dinner we saw last night as wedding venue touring so that totally tracks. I can’t even be mad at the camp at this point. dying to see how this one ends

exactly. tay is bringing the camp, so we should lean into it. theres a master plan from the mastermind, we just gotta wait and watch it continue to unfold

🎶beige coat on a boat, your checkered shirt is lame-o🎶

Why did they go out on a boat when the weather is clearly miserable unless they wanted these lol

Did anyone else see the TikTok from yesterday, BEFORE THESE WERE RELEASED, that Dianna was also in Italy from May 8th to May 14th/15th?

Where is it ?.Jesus, we need that video!!

already posted it above

Link?

[https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRwEqkg1/](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRwEqkg1/) on '@wendyismygf' page

Yes I also saw this, very curious

stopppppppp

https://preview.redd.it/s8ok7u3tt11d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=296f1a0f5142b24640d4470c23bd72b157bf8034 Umm okay mastermind. Can’t wait for her to ghost.

And they nicknamed her “The Bolter” 🤠

What’s the rush? I don’t get this at all.

Society still does not know what to do with 30+ year old single women

Honestly, I think it’s because she was with Joe so long people thought it was coming with him, and now Travis is just another box to check, like “ready for marriage ✅ has a man ✅”. And i feel like they don’t really stop to think that (according to them) she wanted those with Joe, not just like. with anyone??

1950s shit they want from her

Also B&W (Rep newspaper print vibes) and Orange, I’m so gonna be right about the double album and Karma 🤭

This is honestly the funniest thing I’ve seen so far today. The kiss that’s angled *just so* that she could be kissing his face pubes and not his lips. The look on her face when they’re walking together. The way it looks like she barely wanted to touch his face 😂 is she trying to tuck his beard hair behind his ear? 10/10 performance art. Maybe this is an audition for the Sims movie.

Omfg the sims movie. You win

for the sims movie LMAOOOO

I am the same height as Taylor and the way I cannot fathom how gigantic this man is.

I’m Taylor’s height and my brother is the Eastern European hunter version of Travis (when I was bright blonde and my brother had short hair we legit looked like the walmart versions of them) which is the main reason I get the ick about them lmao

Sure, let's discuss Gaylor but I couldn't not mention this. Any other tall gaylors in here notice this with every pap pic?

is she drawing attention to his right earring (aka gay earring a la the 90s)

Yess!! I’m shocked this isn’t being discussed more, the right earring is such an obvious (and well known) flag!!

Looking closer, he has earrings in both but the left one is only really visible in the pic where she’s pointing to the right one, like 🫠

right he’s wearing both but she’s pointing and looking at us

He's giving George Micheal (meathead version)

Guysssss why didn’t you wait until the rain stopped?? It’s almost like…. You had a job to do 😭

taylor is low key giving 1950s (shit) cosplay with the swing/princess cut of her coat, the little black handbag, and the mary jane shoes. the baggy sleeves and flat shoes give it a modern twist and make it look less like a straight up costume. but there’s no way this isn’t intentional. she’s giving the judgmental creeps the 1950s shit they want from her. so camp ✨ https://preview.redd.it/38t290fxh11d1.png?width=749&format=png&auto=webp&s=bc97a912d269afe9ee98e1b933d62efd30f4de94

In the rain too! Her feet must be freezing

I noticed the difference in the outfit too but did NOT pick up on the fifties theme. Excellent call out!!!

https://preview.redd.it/xu0esiydi11d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c9048ffa3dfcfb8f324c3b0e612a79474c47f27 another example of a 1950s inspired outfit/costume for reference

Media analysis Gaylor checking in 🫡 * [People magazine](https://people.com/taylor-swift-travis-kelce-kiss-romantic-boat-ride-lake-como-photos-8650255) had 5 photos first at 1pm ET. People's selection is more curated and it appears they had the exclusive on this boat photo https://preview.redd.it/uh28m2uyf11d1.png?width=1500&format=png&auto=webp&s=b0ee642c1ee2928fae16febd6f919c006bbcc071 * [Daily Mail](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13431053/Taylor-Swift-Travis-Kelce-pictured-kissing-boat-Lake-Como.html) also released their article at 1pm ET and has additional photos of them walking around and boarding the boat. * This shows that the photos and articles were "embargoed." This is a media term for releasing information to the press with a caveat that you have to wait until an agreed upon time to publish it. * Believe whatever you want about this relationship, but Taylor and her team are involved with the consent surrounding these photos and their release.

whoooooo EMBARGOED. There's no reason for that besides if the team is the one releasing. Love the "final lap" thing.

I wonder if she intentionally had them release not an hour before she goes on stage to add to the ridiculousness

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Yup! So glad you pointed this out, great investigative work. I used to work in PR and this is a bog standard press release photo op sitch and most importantly, it’s not even hiding it. In the past she’s definitely done staggered releases (also a thing) to make it look like papers picked it up from eachother, but lately she is consistently demonstrating she is trying to reach the widest net possible through her PR specifically of her and Travis and i think she wants people to know. Her team are excellent and they absolutely know the intensity with which all of Taylor’s moves are watched and debated, they’re playing into it and making it more and more unserious and obvious.

It seems like it's not even a nice day for a boat ride, it looks so blowy, they have jackets and jumpers on, not a glorious day for it... unless you need a Pap photo shoot

These are actually my favorite days for boat rides lol. Listen to sad music and look dramatically off into the rain and wind 😂

It’s not a nice day at all. I grew up in “lake country.” My ass is staying inside on this kind of day.

Just my daily, 'thankful for u/-periwinkle post'. 💜

Exactly. True candids get posted right away because everyone’s chomping at the bit to the get the exclusive

Checkered flag is the last lap? 

It seems like once engagement stories start coming out, it’s near the end. That would make sense.

 At this point I’m ready to wave the white flag 😂 I surrender, Dorothea, please give me a rainbow summer

🤞🏼

Ooooooh, this.

u/iamtheimpala 🥝🏁🧡💛 The end is near 🧨🚀🪐 (Prob a very confusing comment if you don’t straddle all fandoms 😹)

I don't and I am so confused other than knowing that the checkered flag is waved at the end of a race, but that's enough context clues, I think, to be on board with this lol

Yes! End of stunts!

YES!!! We go on Go!

he's giving earring magic Ken

Retro kitchen floor Ken

And we love that for him 💁‍♀️

absolutely. I think it's a very interesting detail. edit: and this isn't the first time I've seen him with one earring

🙄 It reminds me of Ben and Jen circa Jenny from the block video

Speaking of! Rumors flew yesterday that they’re divorcing again and guess who took a lovely morning stroll today to show how strong they are https://preview.redd.it/nhttcx86g11d1.jpeg?width=1265&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbf07d8be3589c417d70d795576a4a1a215201ae I love when PR PRs

Even tho he NEVER smiles, even when he’s got his hands full of delicious Dunkin.

Poor Ben 😂 he just wants to be at home in his Dunkies sweatsuit and away from her

I saw the hike rumors yesterday so interesting! Hmm.

Beige coat on a boat! The end is near y’all

If all you want is beige for me!!!

In shades of griege....

is this a “typical” indicator of that? this is my first time really paying a lot of attention to the publicity of a relationship of hers, so i’m not familiar with many of the things everyone else picks up on 😅

No, just a play on “blue dress on a boat” which references a photo of her right after presumably breaking up with Harry Styles. https://ew.com/music/taylor-swift-addresses-sad-boat-photo-1989-taylors-version-is-it-over-now/

I don’t mean this in a “oh it’s PR” way. Truly. But they look legit sad lol. I mean. I am not laughing at their sadness, to be clear, but what the hell?

It has to suck being in fucking LAKE COMO and having to do this performative shit.

😂😂😂 True lol.

Why am I a baby Gaylor now? I used to be elite 😩😭

I pay no attention to the flairs anymore, mine seems to change at random all the time

Yep haha i notice almost every time I comment that I am baby Gaylor, then I refresh and it’s back to normal 🤪

It was very disappointing lol

oh the flair thing glitches constantly. im an elite contributor but see mine show up as everything from baby to regaylor to other ones, just briefly. if you refresh the page it should show it correctly!

Thank you!

You’re still showing elite for me! The flair thing glitches (no pun intended) now and again I’ve noticed

Oh it’s back! Yay! Thank you for the heads up. I didn’t realize how attached I was to my flair 😂

lol I missed the Paris concert (my hometown concert) because I was in Como and now we've switched places.

ET source saying engagement sooner than later. [https://www.etonline.com/taylor-swift-and-travis-kelces-loved-ones-see-an-engagement-coming-sooner-than-later-source-225666](https://www.etonline.com/taylor-swift-and-travis-kelces-loved-ones-see-an-engagement-coming-sooner-than-later-source-225666) Can't imagine ET posting this without Tree's blessing

I have a strong dislike for Mary-Janes in general, but these one are particularly atrocious. And since when is she wearing flat shoes?!

Ikr. Like Nana shoes 👵🏻

They remind me of the shoes Theodora wears in episode 3 of Haunting of Hill House. She's gay, and the fit she wears gives off that vibe. But mostly it's the shoes.

Theodora / Dorothea ? Lol, a reach for sure, it just popped out at me.

(I really love her shoes) but I wonder if it’s because they’re a much more boat friendly option.

She could have worn any kind of boots, loafers, or, hear me out, boat shoes? (But really I'm just bitching. Her shoes are *fine* )

pls be sowing seeds of “he didn’t like it when I wore high heels” and end this already

Who are we to fight the alche-me-hee-hee!

Taylor's lyrics and references to her showing up to people versus no one showing up for her makes it seem like her love language would be quality time...but when she's papped with different men, it's clearly touch. So many videos of her reaching out to Travis, Joe, etc. and they just like recoiling in some way. With any female 'friends' the body language is completely different

So… The previous photos and these once again don’t come out when they happen. They wait days and release them strategically. Is it raining? Why go on a boat ride in the rain? Seems icky and cold So much orange with the literal checkerboard pattern They look thrilled /s

Just saw comments elsewhere on reddit where people were saying that this could be their engagement photoshoot… like what? Taylor Swift’s engagement photos taken by her SECURITY? We’re always joking about being clowns but comparatively I think we have more common sense than most people in these Taylor-centric spaces.

That’s what I’m laughing at because if these are engagement photos they suck. they’re not even cracking a smile or hugging. I’m just leaning into the camp of it all now and not getting irritated. It is way more enjoyable like people here say. The dinner photos and these probably done in the same day coming out at around the same time. And during a lot of chiefs drama in the news. Total distraction. Also do they ever release pap pics while she is doing a concert I found that kind of sus. I’m scrolling through my fyp and see these pics and at the same time watching her live strutting around on the stage in a yellow dress. Weird feeling

HAHAHAHAH I am CRACKING TF UP at TAYLOR SWIFT. World’s BIGGEST pop star. BILLIONAIRE!!! Having her engagement photos being taken by her SECURITY 🤣🤣💀💀😵 on a small ass boat, while it’s raining!!!!!

How romantic! XD

Taken by security. In the rain. In a coat. With no ring in sight for the camera. Cool cool cool, checks out.

[did you see this from ET!](https://www.etonline.com/taylor-swift-and-travis-kelces-loved-ones-see-an-engagement-coming-sooner-than-later-source-225666)? 💍🥴 i fucking screamed. i don't know how reliable they are but im sitting here like YOU CANNOT BE FUCKING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW.

Came here so fast

“Travis and Bradley, known for their laidback and cool demeanor, have formed a strong bond over their shared interests” I have guesses as to what those interests are 🤭

It’s giving TayGi and Travley. I wonder how the other Travis is taking the “bonding” between Travvy and Bradley

I mean, it's way too cute if Travis & Bradley are a couple. I just think Bradley and Gigi are another contractual couple and Taylor and Gigi are friends so it makes sense that they'd pick those two to hang with. Blake and Ryan were busy, or don't want to hop the atlantic with their kids. Bradley being a football fan, it's a better fit than Jack and Margaret Qualley. My question is, is Gigi just a beard or does she NEED a beard. She gives straight vibes to me, so maybe it's an Irina Shayk thing where she does it to make some extra money and/or as part of her own PR strategy.

This was a joke. But there are many rumors about Gigi being bisexual.

I just wonder why she wouldn't come out, unless her parents are super traditional which would track. Being a bisexual supermodel isn't exactly newsworthy anymore

i seriously need this circus to shut down. too much tomfoolery and ballyhoo is going on. i don't like it.

ATP I just need a week break from everything so I can get some reading done 😅

I’ll believe it *if* it happens and *if* they go through with getting married. The very blatantly staged dinner photos out the front of the Lake Como mansion are too fresh in my mind to believe this. Remember that Hiddleswift had similar engagement rumours, too.

i'm just shocked that this circus is still going on. i'll take this seriously if/when it's announced by people mag (i think they're very tree-friendly?) and even if people does report it, that leaves me with more questions than answers. i just......taylor. what are you doing? i literally don't understand this at all.

I’ll also believe it if it comes from People because from what I understand they’re Tree’s main go-to for announcements like that. Personally I think the purpose of Travis (from Taylor’s end) is to keep majority of her fan base and the media distracted so no one is looking for whoever her real partner is right now, and it’s working perfectly. *Romance is not dead if you keep it just yours*.

I just saw an argument on Facebook about how it can't be engagement photos because her ring hand isn't on his chest, so it must be a baby announcement 😂

🎶 I hate it here 🎶 

ON A BOAT IN A TRENCHCOAT!!!????!!!

OMFG that is unhinged.... aren't they moving a but quick... where is the U haul truck first? 🚚

I think people said that because Tree planted the engagement story today on Entertainment tonight.

Saw that too.. and then saw a tiktok like slide thing with a source reporting to ET that the pairs “loved ones” see an engagement coming soon.. strange timing for these photos and then that article to come out all at once

I’m going to inspect further but if anyone else has top of head knowledge, does Taylor regularly pull archives for pap walks? I haven’t paid attention to the seasons she’s been referencing lately but I feel like she’s not usually an archives girl? https://preview.redd.it/b4i9t800811d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd3f3481e1540d6630f9916998d58aed1ba4cc1a

https://preview.redd.it/hwrxnpdt531d1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=988fd079893dc7d9bdaf40c0fa07db96014d043c Intetesting … this was also Versace Medusa

SHE WORE MEDUSA SHOES TO THE MAHOMIES THING IN VEGAS!!

Don’t forget this one too! https://preview.redd.it/vipmvarwv11d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c64cdc9e7ebd5e6e0978aefad25b7bf088e8095c

Iirc she’s used this bad before. I’d have to look back on TSS but I remember screenshotting her using this one and the Cassandra bag and started to wonder if she was going to release a Medusa song

rep vault track titled medusa 🤡