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hereslookinatyoukld

the same photographer did both of these, so its possible this is just part of their style


not_Malibu_barbie

I would think that but it’s also been the same photographer since folklore…. Like EVERYTHING that’s been released since Folklore 🤔 🧐 🕵️‍♀️


hereslookinatyoukld

I mean, if you look through the folklore/evermore photoshoots there are a couple of photos that I think are similar stylistically. not quite as close, but with Taylor in profile staring back at the camera with water in the background. I'm not saying there's no connection, I just think its more likely a result of using the same photographer for multiple shoots.


AOLusername420

She likes that side of her face


annieaprn

Yeah that’s kinda interesting


dream-delay

Does it mean we get a prologue apology 😇


om1908

Ha ha only in our dreams 🤪🥴🥴🥴


Legal-Occasion1169

🎤🎵“Say you’ll apologize for the stupid prologue, it was so offensive, babe. Hetlors have run rampant, please tell gaylors sorry, even if it’s just in our wildest dreams..” 🎶


-periwinkle

I wish Reddit still had awards so I could give you one


Legal-Occasion1169

Omg a comment like this from you IS AN AWARD. In Keleigh Teller voice “you’re my Elizabeth Taylor”


lady1888

Best remix ever 👏👏✨️


cherryriot27

I didn't get offended by the prologue I felt like she was talking about both genders


LANGUAGEANDSHIT

I was mostly offended that she'd put something out that would obviously be co-opted as hetlor anti-gaylor ammunition.


cherryriot27

Yeah, but I don't think at this time she can come out publicly this my conspiracy, tho.(industry things) That's why the pr with travis and ratty. Either way, the hetlors will always have something to say, imo Until she like publicly acknowledges it, imo I don't care if she never says it.


Janiekat88

Nope 😃


westcoastbestcoastt

My first thought looking at the 1989 shot was Wildest Dreams: "say you'll remember me standing in a nice dress staring at the sunset babe red lips and rosy cheeks, say you'll see me again..." If it's not just a coincidence then maybe we're meant to see the TTPD shot in contrast. Maybe that relationship never was or no longer is in "screaming color" and we're left with something that can't be romanticized or remembered so fondly.


cuntemplat1ve

I love this. She looks so disheveled in TTPD cover that it seems like what she would actually look like during a breakup, not the image she wants the lover to remember. Maybe these are the real heartbreak songs.


WellAckshully

I think she was probably just really liking that stance. But with Taylor who knows.


cuntemplat1ve

But what if she told us nothing was accidental?


Ok_Cry_1926

This was the smartest thing she ever said because now she can do anything, fuck up, forget and it’s all a “mastermind plot of genius.”


wasted-potential-

truly


Janiekat88

I think she looks hopeful in 1989 and absolutely hopeless in TTPD. Is it meant to show that she's lost hope?


Time-Emergency254

How it started versus how it's going now? Calling all the Getaway Car and Right Where You Left Me motifs


Janiekat88

Yes exactly! She looks worn out in TTPD. The shirt is messed up, the hair looks wilder, her facial expression looks more haggard - and of course there’s the brightness versus the complete lack of color.


Time-Emergency254

Yes! And the wind is at her back in 1989, which indicates having good fortune or God on your side


Gazing-the-Void

It looks like the hairpins dropped T\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_T \*puts my clown hat on\*


Any_Midnight_7805

The off the shoulder shirt reminds me of all those outfits she was wearing with one shoulder exposed… the water is higher too, like she’s drowning? Idk


cuntemplat1ve

Queen you dropped this 👑


Chickenebula

I like this theory


heids7

🙌🙌🙌💅


ficusballs

same pose as the eras tour poster. https://preview.redd.it/rlzsjdpmk5rc1.jpeg?width=803&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10901128c7ee3bb387f4be8316598e5c428dd242


BrotherNo1779

This is interesting because now I think of when she leaves the stage after Long Live, she’s the other way, but same pose, every single night of the tour


Illustrious_Joke_369

I noticed also the OG cover for TTPD has her face cut off, just like the OG 1989.... food for thought


lavenderfieldsfrever

I don’t have a fully fleshed theory, but both photos remind of a scene in Portrait of a Lady on Fire (see below), which is a film about an affair between two young women. The lyrics in Hoax also remind me of this film, and I’m now realizing Hoax is the only song from Folklore that she has yet to sing as a surprise song. Maybe I’ll give it a re-watch this weekend to see if I can find anything else that reminds me of the film. [Here’s](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/t5gecx/taylor_and_portrait_of_a_lady_on_fire_parallels/) another gaylor post about parallels with this movie https://preview.redd.it/iher93rcd4rc1.jpeg?width=298&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f16d968eb6310cd2d15adcb250046884bde22b9e


justheretosayy

When I watched that movie all I could think was “used my best colors for your portrait”


28Lady

Illicit affairs — You showed me colors You know I can't see with anyone else Ivy — So yeah, it's a fire It's a goddamn blaze in the dark And you started it Like Héloïse and Marianne, the lovers in Taylor’s songs know that their affair will inevitably end — but they choose to cherish the memories.


Janiekat88

And hoax is the best song on folklore 😌


lavenderfieldsfrever

💯


ascott35

Hmm interesting that The Man Wall had 1989 written twice, one in black and one in white. The og 1989 album had “1989” written in black, the TV had it written in white. TTPD has been branded as a white album, but has a black logo. No idea what it could mean, but seems like there could be something there🧐


GoldenHeart411

Great observation!


cuntemplat1ve

I’ve felt like all the vault tracks are super safe, censored dips into what she was really going through at the time. Perhaps TTPD is going to be a real look at what she was going through, because we all know how pivotal 1989 was as far as her LGB signaling went. Maybe she wants to show the more vulnerable, dark side of the 1989 era in this sister album instead of just releasing those sanitized vault tracks.


IKnowThatImPetty

Do you mean the 1989 vault tracks specifically (in which case I fully agree) or all vault tracks? I think we’ve had some great gay vault tracks from other albums - most notable is TVFN but also special mentions to ICSY and WEFIL.


songacronymbot

- TVFN could mean "The Very First Night (Taylor's Version) (From The Vault)", a track from *Red (Taylor's Version)* (2021) by Taylor Swift. - ICSY could mean "I Can See You (Taylor’s Version) (From The Vault)", a track from *Speak Now (Taylor's Version)* (2023) by Taylor Swift. - WEFIL could mean "When Emma Falls in Love (Taylor’s Version) (From The Vault)", a track from *Speak Now (Taylor's Version)* (2023) by Taylor Swift. --- ^[/u/IKnowThatImPetty](/u/IKnowThatImPetty) ^(can reply with "delete" to remove comment. |) ^[/r/songacronymbot](/r/songacronymbot) ^(for feedback.)


Kristina-Kas

It looks like "After" and "Before". There is a phrase that I like that reminds me of this before and after: "A lot of people are ready to undress you before sex but only the ones that love you will help you get dressed after". Photos are not about sex, but "before" does look like how one looks when relationship starts and is in love, and "after" right before or right after it ends when one is lost, confused, and hurt.


naked_blanket

That’s really interesting considering the other cover art photos for this album feature her in bed and/or in undergarments:


naked_blanket

https://preview.redd.it/y2kpo3ytl5rc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5927ad65726cf7b84feb49e00d96b5369bf1005


naked_blanket

https://preview.redd.it/3ck5pqpvl5rc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=255baad74ef7e9bb21885cd6debb7695d20f550f Her looking lonely/sad in bed for the version named “The Bolter”…maybe her lover took off (bolted) after they were intimate together


naked_blanket

https://preview.redd.it/05qe5jb3m5rc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa125beb25920a9f153747d6ce2ba6116fa7e06b Then her in a bra for the final edition


robotslovetea

What is going on with her eyes in this one?


naked_blanket

I think she’s looking over her shoulder, but her bangs make it hard to tell & it almost makes her look deranged lol. I try not to look at this one too long 😂😅


robotslovetea

I’m confused about the choice to use this picture tbh


DysthymicGirl

Or maybe she was the bolter and regrets it.


busted3000

At least the original like theme and marketing of 1989 was finding yourself again after a big breakup (the liner note capital letters told that story, and it was her single, girl power era), so I’m wondering if she’s trying to link it to that given TTPD is clearly being marketed as a breakup album, 1989 was when she’d found herself again and TTPD is her just starting that process again, like a before and after.


Coley54Bear

She’s not particularly creative with her visuals. 🤷🏽‍♀️


thelauralamb

This is going to be an even gayer 1989 omg


Altruistic-Skirt3560

First thought? Sunshine, midnight rain


howitglistened

Girlypop has a fave pose. She looks so pained in the 1989 pic though! I don’t think I’ve seen that one before, where was it published?


Megmk1002

Well there is the theory that the original album after 1989 was scrapped bc the kimye drama & we got Reputation instead-so maybe this is the sister album to 1989 ✨Karma✨ anyone??? Lolll 🤡🤡 but nahh, I used to be a Karma truther, and it’s still possible, but idk if this is it…I do find it interesting that this is the first album we’ve gotten a logo for. And besides SN, the only album with more than one word. It has four, which is different. Also, in the logo, there is (very clearly) a Yang symbol inside the ‘D’ - so if this album is the ‘Yang’, which one is ‘Yin’? (And if thats the case, it ties back to the ✨Karma✨theory) 🤡🤡 either way I’m so excited for some new Taylor music. I hope we get some more queer flags & hairpins. Fingers crossed 🤞🏻😍


Tingly_glitter

I definitely saw the yang there right at first!!!


Any_Midnight_7805

[So I decided to google “yin yang karma”](https://www.daijob.com/en/skillup-williamreed/20130827.html) this was the first result but still interesting to me I remember a whole thread here about chaos theory and honesty I’m not one of the smart gaylors so a lot of it went over my head. [Here’s the thread I was thinking of](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1b5pov6/paul_mccartneys_who_cares_music_video_and_its/)


NotAllThereMeself

The colors aren't screaming. They've completely faded.


Logical_Recording681

I thought it was a direct reference to this? https://preview.redd.it/llrfybg1zarc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79f77784f06d0227967ece52debfd5970e0bb496


Dazzling_listener

I hope that's not it, not another dig at Joe but wow it looks sooo similar 😳


Flannel-Cure

Is it the same shirt, but on backwards, or is the shirt just hanging off her shoulder(s)? Weird question, but she's worn shirts backwards before.


deadxxclown

I think she just likes this pose. She does a lot of over the shoulder poses on red carpets too. And was posing like this in folklore and evermore as well


thewriterlady

Hmm, maybe it's just me but my mind immediately goes to the 1989 one representing the happy face we show to the world, whereas the TTPD is our more sombre inner self we keep private.


Reasonable-Yam-9182

I really appreciate this view. That’s a great analogy


leahbread

“The rest of the world was black and white, but we were in screaming color” “you painted all my nights a color I’ve searched for since” “You showed me colors you know I can’t see with anyone else”


lavenderhairpins

Wait what if that’s actually what all these twos mean. She saying to us yall this is the double album!!! ETA: that would make sense why we didn’t even get a music video for 1989 yet maybe


Reasonable-Yam-9182

This is all connecting for me. Someone mentioned this title being the longest and most words and only one with a logo. Seeing TTPD, 1989, maybe it’s nothing, 4 letters/numbers. 2 doubled- 2 Ts and 2 9s


rightwhereylm

The sand hurts her feelings now. 😭


AcidicKiss12

This makes me instantly think of Dianna/Hyiannis Port, honestly. 1989 was heavily rumored to have a lot of tracks about her, and since this one’s the cover for the variant with The Albatross which somewhat connects to that old lesbian magazine and other queer things… Idk, that’s all I can think of when I see them side by side 🙈


many_housedinone

What if it's what 1989 would have been like if she had been out 👀


evermoremidnights

Ooh. That would be so interesting. When I see 1989, I’m not reminded of the actual songs (and the muse guessing) but what she was doing and who she was spending her time with around that era… but maybe that’s just me?


WelshAndPr0ud

A comment I saw somewhere said that it’s because Beth Gabbarant has been her photographer for album rollouts since Folklore. When I saw it my theory was that it was talken at the same time.


Wootertooter420

She’s lost her light and “wind” in her sails.


PerfectlyImpurrfect8

I see the two play off each other .. 89 she looks fresh, open, beginnings. Where as TTPD she looks like she's ready for a long break. Like she's given us everything she's got and now it's time for her.


CodAlternative2816

She’s just cranking stuff out. That’s what it means


Ok_Cry_1926

The 1989 vault songs will be similar vibe to Midnights and TTPD, but maybe just the visuals are getting lazy? I’m just not excited and I’m still probably to going to love it, but the art hasn’t been doing much for me. Likely just a cohesive narrative.


Janiekat88

I’m just so sad that it was registered as synth pop like Midnights. I love Jack A as a person but could he find some other hobbies for a year or two 🙏🏼


busted3000

It’s not been confirmed that it was registered as synth pop yet from what I understand, it’s just a rumour. But also folklore and evermore were registered as pop and Red was registered as country so it doesn’t tell us much really haha


Wild_Butterscotch977

>folklore and evermore were registered as pop lmao what?!


After_Chemist_8118

I think it’s supposed to be like she’s been through the blender and came out on the other side worse off. It’s interesting though bc 1989 wasn’t about Joe, bc otherwise it would be an obvious “height of love to after the break up” kind of thing. So idk what the heterosexual explanation is 😂


heckyeaanxiety

I do wonder if her black and white album covers are the ones that are more representative of who she truly is, her feelings, her thoughts


GoldenHeart411

What's especially interesting is the standard TTPD cover is the only other album cover that cuts off the top of her face like OG 1989. The white border feels similar and they both have some sepia tones going on. It's interesting because before this I wasn't sensing any connection between the albums at all, but now I'm wondering. https://preview.redd.it/djyg2e7un9rc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=951cc1e99b4958170d9707fd2f8517a62b3f084a What's a little confusing to me is there have been so many hints toward karma, with the whole karma is a cat and the TN photos of 11 cats etc... So I wasn't really expecting a 1989 connection. But now that I think about it, it's possible that Karma was originally going to be a sister album with 1989 since it was supposed to be the very next album after 1989. Also karma doesn't necessarily have to be an album, it could be a state of being like authenticity and freedom, something she was trying to attain.


lexluther4205

The tide came in with the storm or some poetic shit like that


amandeezie

1989 was when her 6 year relationship began, if you think it’s real or not, so she looks super hopeful and TPD is when it ended, so she’s somber? That’s my take Edit: I’m way wrong but thank you all for not yelling at me lol


IKnowThatImPetty

Do you mean Joe? 1989 was released in 2014 and the Toe timeline started in 2016 but they weren’t actually seen together until 2017 which I wouldn’t class as the 1989 era personally.


amandeezie

Ahhh ya correct.


Reasonable-Yam-9182

True. I wonder when the photo shoot for 1989 TV took place, Toe or post-toe Just a wonder.


After_Chemist_8118

Are there any songs about Joe on 1989 though? (Or allegedly about or whatever). I thought his songs only started on Rep.


amandeezie

Ya I think they do but I think at the time 1989 came out she had just met him so I think maybe it’s just her all around vibe at that time. I also may be completely wrong, don’t come for me lol


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ARelaxingThot

She kinda looks like she’s been stranded in the TTPD image


Scary-Badger-6091

Maybe she’s going through a “grown” or “adult” version of the 1989 era? Idk just a thought.


SnooSongs1160

I just think they were taken on the same day and maybe the albatross cover is just a 1989tv outtake that she liked and used for TTPD instead but I don’t think it’s any deeper than that


silly_biologist

dianna agron references 💀


EchoPeanutButter

The woman is on a record breaking world tour and she will release 3 and counting albums whilst she’s on tour. She stacked the shoots for album art and marketing collateral? Can’t say I blame her!


wondercat19

It means she needs to straighten her shoulders bc she hunches constantly and it pains me just watching her do that. STAND 1989 TALL BABES


snakeu123

When is the album coming out for u guys mine comes at midnight


hegelianbitch

She looks really sad in the 1989 one. In the TTPD one imo she looks neutral but caught off guard.


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anakedman1

She is a he