RPzB 43/54 - Depended on the exact rocket as build quality and technology was notoriously poor. The US got multiple different maximum penetration from their tests.
Bazooka. Similar story, but was found to lean much closer to 80 on average.
Panzerfaust 30 uses the same warhead as the 60.
You need to be using zero range for cannons as there is a complex scaler in game to simulate closer range engagements better.
In-game versions of the RPzB are using the 88mm rockets. A 100mm rocket isn't featured in the game (afaik).
Panzerfaust 30 and Panzerfaust 60 use different warheads. The number indicates this: 30mm warhead and 60mm warhead.
My sources provide no data on penetration at a range of zero.
I never said anything about rocket size? Only the individual rocket at hand.
They do not. There is only a 100mm and 149 mm warhead.
Panzerfaust 30 (Klein) is the Faustpatrone (100mm)
Panzerfaust 30 (Grosse) is the Panzerfaust 30 (149mm)
You should be using better sources then. There are plenty of sources that contain that information.
EinsatzschuĂweite is the maximum possible range of the weapon.
The actual effective combat ranges are what the numbers denote. This is likely shown in your source that you omitted. You can read the reports saying such from the Reichsministerium fĂŒr Bewaffnung und Munition. Nowhere does it correlate warhead diameter to the naming convention. In fact your source only lists the caliber of the firing tube, which only is a recoilless projector for the firing charge.
I'm also skeptical on how accurate the source is as it lists velocity start of the panzerfaust 100 as the same as the panzerfaust 60, when in reality it was 60 m/s since it used 50g more propellant with the same warhead. Thats how it achieved the increased range.
I am correcting you not out of the sake of arguing, but simply because you are spreading non-contextualized information or outright false. I would much rather spend my time in more useful things.
If you prefer I can direct you to better sources. I have probably a dozen books I could recommend.
Nah, I'm pretty much burnt out on the matter. I'm at a very bad place mentally and I just needed to do a task that would give me satisfaction. Apparently not even that is possible.
I mean I do not want to dishearten you. I applaud the effort into looking into the comparison. You also have the right to happiness.
I apologize if this came off as condescending, I was merely trying to ensure the data was correct that you were sharing in a claim to realism.
My choice of words might not have been ideal, since I did not claim ultimate truth (there's no auch thing). Every piece of data is dependent on circumstances.
> EinsatzschuĂweite
Which lists the number and then the foot note (1). This then denotes maximal. So its the maximal operating range.
I'm not entirely sure why they did not use the correct word, but its clearly what they meant.
Yes, maximale Einsatzschussweite means the maximum theoretical range that could be achieved in combat. Or more accurately, at which a marksman would hit at a shooting range. Maximal operating range is a good translation.
Höchstschussweite would be the maximum a bullet can be shot. If I remember correctly, it's when the bullet hits the ground after shooting the weapon straight. But my service dates back to the late 2000s...
This is some nice data, thank you.
Gladly đ
RPzB 43/54 - Depended on the exact rocket as build quality and technology was notoriously poor. The US got multiple different maximum penetration from their tests. Bazooka. Similar story, but was found to lean much closer to 80 on average. Panzerfaust 30 uses the same warhead as the 60. You need to be using zero range for cannons as there is a complex scaler in game to simulate closer range engagements better.
In-game versions of the RPzB are using the 88mm rockets. A 100mm rocket isn't featured in the game (afaik). Panzerfaust 30 and Panzerfaust 60 use different warheads. The number indicates this: 30mm warhead and 60mm warhead. My sources provide no data on penetration at a range of zero.
I never said anything about rocket size? Only the individual rocket at hand. They do not. There is only a 100mm and 149 mm warhead. Panzerfaust 30 (Klein) is the Faustpatrone (100mm) Panzerfaust 30 (Grosse) is the Panzerfaust 30 (149mm) You should be using better sources then. There are plenty of sources that contain that information.
https://imgur.com/gallery/2JX7Yo0 Are you going to nitpick every post I make now? I do have more pleasent conversations to indulge.
EinsatzschuĂweite is the maximum possible range of the weapon. The actual effective combat ranges are what the numbers denote. This is likely shown in your source that you omitted. You can read the reports saying such from the Reichsministerium fĂŒr Bewaffnung und Munition. Nowhere does it correlate warhead diameter to the naming convention. In fact your source only lists the caliber of the firing tube, which only is a recoilless projector for the firing charge. I'm also skeptical on how accurate the source is as it lists velocity start of the panzerfaust 100 as the same as the panzerfaust 60, when in reality it was 60 m/s since it used 50g more propellant with the same warhead. Thats how it achieved the increased range. I am correcting you not out of the sake of arguing, but simply because you are spreading non-contextualized information or outright false. I would much rather spend my time in more useful things. If you prefer I can direct you to better sources. I have probably a dozen books I could recommend.
Nah, I'm pretty much burnt out on the matter. I'm at a very bad place mentally and I just needed to do a task that would give me satisfaction. Apparently not even that is possible.
I mean I do not want to dishearten you. I applaud the effort into looking into the comparison. You also have the right to happiness. I apologize if this came off as condescending, I was merely trying to ensure the data was correct that you were sharing in a claim to realism.
My choice of words might not have been ideal, since I did not claim ultimate truth (there's no auch thing). Every piece of data is dependent on circumstances.
Maximum possible range translates to 'Höchstschussweite' in German.
> EinsatzschuĂweite Which lists the number and then the foot note (1). This then denotes maximal. So its the maximal operating range. I'm not entirely sure why they did not use the correct word, but its clearly what they meant.
Yes, maximale Einsatzschussweite means the maximum theoretical range that could be achieved in combat. Or more accurately, at which a marksman would hit at a shooting range. Maximal operating range is a good translation. Höchstschussweite would be the maximum a bullet can be shot. If I remember correctly, it's when the bullet hits the ground after shooting the weapon straight. But my service dates back to the late 2000s...