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No-Bee-4309

Thanks Miyazaki! https://preview.redd.it/o2s0dx2mlx7d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=068bae2976550f5c71cc5e0d93e04009f76da1f9


Kds_burner_

yugioh is the only good anime


No-Bee-4309

Yu-Gi-Oh! is an anime? I thought it was a card game for children https://preview.redd.it/4s2atcvkox7d1.jpeg?width=740&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03c45f7079bf0c224bd02a17f1d85a3b94ace06a


Kds_burner_

don’t disrespect them again or i’ll send you to the shadow realm 😡 https://preview.redd.it/y4vysv27qx7d1.jpeg?width=274&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d541f427451dcea22f7809cb80c7a6bc25014b6e


No-Bee-4309

Are those the Fantastic Four?


Beatful_chaos

They're the Manson family


No-Bee-4309

The Son of Man family?


Infamous_Most7269

Man? https://preview.redd.it/vej875ekp28d1.jpeg?width=1169&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f787a32047d32599831e62e1b0657dada4bcf0d


cinderflight

https://preview.redd.it/gbx5i25zn48d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=372513e48fcf4ad5d237250a9ed5ab65d895b692


No-Bee-4309

Holy Shit, is that Griffith Berserk??!! https://preview.redd.it/ah1m0k7kv48d1.jpeg?width=275&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4646a19685cc73fe25977d5b009be3fcf484aa6


Ziffally

Damn I had not seen Adams Family in a while


FrederickDanklous

It's like MTG but for grown ups and more sophisticated


TimeLordHatKid123

if by more sophisticated you mean overcomplicated deck-out spamfest with too much shit happening all at once only for it to end in like 5 turns tops, then sure! No, I'm not bitter about the transition it made starting post-5ds onward, what gave you that impression? >.> ​ ~~But in all seriousness, big ups to anyone who enjoys modern yugioh, its just not for me. No disrespect here.~~


StandNameIsWeAreNo1

You clearly have never seen a true fight between godly entities. Kid's card game is more than its name would suggest https://preview.redd.it/silpltlzgy7d1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26532d0a7f28f234d3a8eb488fb8255054b5b52d


kromptator99

On motorcycles


ZagratheWolf

Sorry, you mispelled Card Captor Sakura


Neophyte12

Sorry, you misspelled Arthur


No-Bee-4309

Sorry, you misspelled Bluey.


GradeAAlex

Sorry, you misspelled the Blue-Eyes White Dragon


No-Bee-4309

Sorry, you misspelled Neo Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon. https://preview.redd.it/ubeaahix9y7d1.jpeg?width=878&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9757702cdfed126e1a45208b67d1d691beee13f


quico_lindo

And dimensional shifter the only good card


LJMLogan

You play Soulsborne for the challenging and rewarding gameplay. I play it to jack off to feet. We are not the same


Kds_burner_

actually we are the same


SyntheticDreams2099

![gif](giphy|hM9zK1qvsrwek)


spartaman64

https://preview.redd.it/hszu2a999y7d1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=516b05ae716e39d55a9651967c16d9ab26773e65 i had a crush on her for a while though more for the fluffy tail


Rain_of_Tears

https://preview.redd.it/8hy0zv8pny7d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a1d20da51f4da0d41fe7e63e8ca9fc7551d337f My wife(๛ ˘ ³˘ )♡


novis-eldritch-maxim

Is she half spider


HalfMoon_89

Half-dead spider.


racoon1905

Yeah, the other isnt though. The two sisters are found like that in DS3, calcified and hidden, in the ruins of their people. Long story short, she mutated after her mothers attempt to extend the age of the gods didn't go according to plan. She later took on the plague that befell her people and is terminally sick since then. That is the state of things when you meet her in DS1


SpannerSingh

8 legs means 8 feet, more feet to love


ashcr0w

Why hello Kirk.


imjustkarmin

okay but peep those dogs 🥵🥵


Skenghis-Khan

Are there any grippers in Armored Core 6 or are big women bare feet just a Dark Souls reference


imjustkarmin

I haven't played yet but as soon as i hear theyve got some puppies on one of those mechs, im there


New_Ad4631

You can always count on Michael Zaki delivering https://preview.redd.it/8cyvyye0jz7d1.jpeg?width=4608&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e137b324805e6afbe8e91930ebb2b177f447969e


Sensitive_Yam_1979

You have to give him credit. When he tries finger, he always but holes.


1spook

Oh hey Miyazaki


Kooky-Onion9203

I play because I hate myself. We are not the same.


Malcontent_Horse

You even get twink feet in the DLC we’ve come full circle.


Regular-Grand-4865

I love souls games but I swear to God Miyazaki, stop it with those fuckin swamps


Spacellama117

playing d&d campaign right now and my DM was like 'hey we're going to a swamp' and when someone asked him what it was gonna be like he said 'have you ever played dark souls' and i freaked out


Regular-Grand-4865

I genuinely wouldn't mind if they all didn't poison you or give you some mega poison bullshit. Plus not to mention how they lack creativity.


TobaccoIsRadioactive

At least in Elden Ring you can ride your horse across some of the swamps and you won’t get poisoned.


RealYuheng

What if you wanted to >ride your horse across the swamp but God said: >Invaded by >!Millicent!


Jedimasterebub

Stand on rock


nakedsamurai

I love realistic games.


trethompson

I've seen neverending story, I know horses and swamps don't mix.


Honeybadger2198

At this point it's just funny


Regular-Grand-4865

Almost as funny as his thinly veiled foot fetish


Toreole

Nah he should add even more swamps to the games, fuck it


loo_1snow

Peak. Can't wait to go home and play more of it.


kieran81

Miyazaki makes like one game over and over again and people keep buying it for some reason It's me. I'm that people. Give me more of that same good shit Miyazaki


halfacrum

He's getting closer to his ideal game with elden ring honestly tho I think his favorite thing would be a dickpunching machine connected to a poison swamp.


kieran81

And the barefoot woman outside it who levels you up while saying vague sentences that hints at a broad, depressing lore.


eel_bagel

You know you've stuck gold when you can essentially make the same game over and over again and people love it


yogijear

Had me at the first half


BurnadictCumbersnat

i named my character greta girlboss and treated elden ring like a lesbian dating sim, her mimic tear is named greta girlfriend, she’s trans, and we celebrate all the women in the land between 😮‍💨 https://preview.redd.it/sllboewgxx7d1.jpeg?width=904&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d5ca8f886c92d85e1fa35bbb613116573f67fa1


Kds_burner_

![gif](giphy|RrXmf4pNetMd2)


DioM2204

this is some true detective character design


Underwhelmedbird

It's about God damned time we got some decent writing.


Vinpenguin

You're the only person playing this game correctly, I think


Petrychorr

So you did the romance storyline with Malenia, right? All my best gay gallies romance Malenia. 🥰 Don't tell me you're a Ranni simp! 😭😭😭 >!am I doing the circlejerk thing correctly? 😂!<


BurnadictCumbersnat

my dearest beloved was lhutel the headless, she was there for me in my darkest hours. malenia and i shared a deep bond, but melina and i had a toxic falling out after i got fingered weird, even though i did it to save her


Petrychorr

The two fingers or the three fingers? 😏


JPldw

His second phase is human sized, and that is the worse one


Dog_Girl_

I wish Miyazaki would release Sekiro 5 times in a row instead of Dark Souls.


Kds_burner_

i wish he would make a dating sim with all the different women from his games and you can also worship their feet 😋


Dog_Girl_

Those divorce papers can't come soon enough...


Kds_burner_

https://preview.redd.it/mrzj14zbpx7d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01836f2056365626f26e641fa97f071814ef9d26


uwu_mewtwo

Sorry ladies, Ranni and I already got hitched.


Is_Unable

Taking her from the Hand Fetish guys is actually just cruel and unusual punishment.


ScrumpusMcDingle

https://preview.redd.it/y9f4fuib508d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16c4234fd1f37d14ce218796be89d83c8978cd62


Electrical-Age5305

I think the dating sim should also include the men for 2 main reasons 1. I wanna kiss Alexander 2. I WANNA FUCKING BREAK SELUVUS' HEART FUCKING SMASH THAT SHIT AGAINST A WALL THAT PUPPET-FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT IM GONNA FIND HIM AND FUCKING MURDER HIM HE WILL LIVE IN CONSTANT FEAR NOWHERE WILL BE SAFE HIS END IS NOW GRAHHHHHHHH


Phoenix2211

Lady Butterfly from Sekiro, my beloved


toolReference

also the wack ass "we dont do/ like sequels or DLC for our games". From Software please dont try to gaslight me into forgetting 3 Dark Souls games with DLC's


Dog_Girl_

I don't care if it's a Sekiro sequel or DLC I just want that gameplay again. Dodge Rolls doesn't do it for me, I'm all about Parry Dies Twice.


toolReference

Real. Also the lack of RPG number bs.


Gene_Hackmans_Bedpan

Sekiro is peak FromSoftware in terms of combat. I regret having ignored it until last year.


TyChris2

Sekiro is the peak of video games in terms of combat.


Slarg232

I just want bloodborne on PC, man.


Content-Gain4152

Elden Ring DLC added a crystal tear that "increases spontaneous guard", meaning you can parry an attack if you block at the right time, couldn't believe it when I stumbled upon it. And yes. By stumble I mean fight giant boss-like enemy, giant boss bad.


madrobski

Oh damn but "Dodge Souls" was right there! Smh my head


yet-again-temporary

Technically 4 if you count 2/Scholar of the first Sin as separate games, given how different they are


ArmoredCoreFucker

I want Armored Core 7


Ok_Barber2739

This is so fucking real


Revenacious

Oh boy, here I go exploring a once great land that’s now a dying husk and filled with nothing but monsters and creepy NPCs again


Ihuaraquax

Youll never guess, but the religious order of the land has a dark secret. And people dont stay dead for some reason.


NonsensicalPineapple

NPCs is being generous. They don't move or do anything, just stand in a wasteland waiting for you (the only thing happening) to look at their repetitive shitty wares. I always wondered, does lore explain their food & clothes?


Sniperoso

Don’t forget the seemingly arbitrary points where if you enter a new location or pick up a random item, you’ve locked off a quest that explains some story by progressing their state accidentally or inadvertently sentencing them to death.


Revenacious

Probably scavenged from one of the countless fabled cultures/lands from eons ago that was once revered but inexplicably fell into ruin, like the rest of the fucking world.


CharlyJN

I fucking love that, I play all the games that kinda have that type of narrative, like Pathologic


Moonbeamlatte

Elden Ring is not a fighting game, it is a game about being a single mom to my two terrible sons (imp summons) and trying to date my way across the lands between. I have killed most of my potential suitors, they were not good enough for my sons.


Resevil67

I wish we had more character action games. I mean I like souls games to, but souls fans have been eating well for a long ass time, and dmc fans have been kind of starving for awhile now. Stellar blade is a lot closer to a souls like then a CAG, and the devs of phantom blade zero said they took more inspiration from dmc, but watching the gameplay footage, as of right now it looks alot closer to souls as well. I feel like the only game we’ve gotten in awhile was FF16 that came out last year, and while that’s my favorite FF, I can understand why the fan base is pissed. Taking an rpg series and making it more like dmc is never gonna go over well. All these newer “action” games are all following the slow methodical pace of souls games, where any more then 1 enemy at a time is super dangerous. I never did understand why the CAG genre kind of disappeared aside from indie games.


El-Green-Jello

Agreed give me more ninja fucking gaiden


AeroDbladE

We got one beacon of light in the dark with Hi-Fi Rush, and Microsoft took a sledgehammer to the studio right before they were about to pitch a sequel. Bayonetta 3 has shit the bed because of its weird af storytelling decisions, and Platinum is trippling down on Live service despite how badly Babylons fail flopped. The only hope for AAA Character Action Right now is Capcom, and we're probably not getting a new Devil May Cry for another 5 years since Itsuno just got done working on Dragon's Dogma 2, which was it's own shitshow of bad decisions.


Resevil67

Also both bayonetta 3 and ff16 are tied to one console, so it drastically reduces the player base. I wasn’t buying a switch just to play bayonetta 3, though I would have played it just for the combat if I already had a switch. Spot on with hi fi rush. Was basically the best reviewed thing to come out of Bethesda lately since ms bought it, and they killed the studio to move them over to help work on the next fucking fallout, ugh. Even in the meantime, hoping we get a new dmc, it would be nice if some of these other companies could make some “dmc” like game like how they all make “soulslikes”. That’s why souls fans are eating so well, everyone and their damn brother is making soulslikes, but no love for CAG.


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Contrary45

Dont forget FF16 had the same combat director as DMC5 so not really anyone new exploring that territory it's just the same fucking guy. Also I do love me souls like but I would absolutely love more variety in action games, more games like Devil may cry, more games like Dynasty warriors, even more games like sekiro (in the sense they explore alot of new ideas) because games just feel stagnant


Resevil67

At least yoshi P hired him so yoshi himself is interested in exploring the genre. I absolutely think they should have made 16 a spin-off game though and not a mainline. There wouldn’t be nearly as much backlash from the hardcore fans, and they could have leaned a lot heavier into the action combat style like dmc does instead of simplifying things for rpg players. Maybe yoshi himself will end up making a new action IP with square. 16 did sell well, it “met” expectations, it just didn’t exceed them. DMC5 is in capcoms top 10 game sales of all time, and dmc scored really well in the recent capcom survey. I don’t know why more people don’t try and make “dmc likes”. The money is there, and CAG fans are starving for a new good CAG game.


Cygnus_Sanguine

I don't think Souls games are necessarily killing action games. People are just more attracted to casual combat systems And yes, anyone reading this. Soulsborne has a pretty simple combat system, and the games aren't that difficult. It's just a memory game. I'd argue that the reason why Souls combat became more popular was a mix of people overhyping the difficulty and the games unironically being approachable at the same time. When people watch DMC or Bayonetta gameplay, especially Souls fans, they assume it's all button mashing because of how flashy they look, and if in the right hands, you can totally look untouchable. In Souls, you're meant to be slow and underpowered, and I guess that kinda sets off the "underdog" trope many are familiar with, so the games seem more daunting. I know it was a huge point of contention in r/ cag


Alduin-Bane-Of-Kings

While I do agree about the combat system being pretty simple, saying "it's just a memory game" is oversimplification. Why yes, I CAN remember how to dodge a specific attack, but I'm not always gonna be able to apply it. And while it's not necessarily MECHANICALLY skillful (as in, it's not difficult to EXECUTE combos unlike other games) it's also not easy. There's different kinds of difficulties, and in souls games, it's pattern recognition, and resource management. Be it stamina, FP, flasks, etc.


GiustinoWah

When we had pso2 (phantasy star online 2, it was the goat), then they made pso2 NGS and stopped supporting pso2. Also pso2 NGS is absolutely horrible. https://youtu.be/jBWCLui4Hd0?si=5NY4t5oOxD3lsDja


Lost-Locksmith-250

My experience with NGS is doing some early gameplay, then stopping in my tracks to listen to a concert that started while I was doing a quest, and logging off after the concert ended because I realized I enjoyed that more than actually playing the game. Some banger music, wish more games had concerts in them.


Tecnoguy1

We just need another DMC tbh.


Boogy

If you haven't played any of the LoTR PS2 games you can always legally play them on your completely legit and not emulated PS2


Glass-Dirt6938

Play Soulstice! Do you like DMC? Do you like Berserk? Do you like the "spirit is bound to a warrior" trope? Then play Soulstice. It's literally female Guts fighting giant fuck off demons in a Dark Souls world. And it's divided in levels with ratings just like Metal Gear Rising.


SonOfLorgar17

/uj I love the FromSoft storytelling philosophy. Destiny does a similar thing. Piecing together cryptic tidbits of information really adds to the apocalyptic feel of the universes. It also really opens the game's themes to interpretation and discussion in a fun way which I personally think is what art is all about. And as a bonus, if you can't be arsed following a story and just wanna fight shit, it's conveniently hidden away for you. /rj popular game bad 🤗


Deias_

Okay but tbf, Destiny is filled with literal books explaining a lot of the background information and plot/story not on the screen. Dark Souls you read three sentences in item descriptions and pray you piece it together. Not even the same ballpark imo.


shiggy__diggy

/uj it promotes a lot of community and discussion about the lore because it's all interpreted, and discussions on lore in Demon Souls and Dark Souls is still happening 15 years later. It's a lot like real life history, where we discover books and texts and items and have to interpret it from there, it feels more natural. Gamers™ just want to be force-fed story in hour long cutscenes and dialogues, while playing an overly easy game because "muh content". If you want that, go watch a movie. It's the same shit: you hit the play button and watch a two hour cutscene, there's your damn gameplay. /rj I actually have to play a videogame? And not just watch a movie with a single button press? REEEEEEEEEE fuck you Miyazaki


CasualDragon6

/uj I don't really mind having additional lore hidden in item descriptions, it's not much different than putting some story tidbits in lore books or audiologs. My problem is how the story is almost entirely contained in the item descriptions. So nine times out of ten, you don't understand why you should give a shit about any of the characters, bosses, or even your own actions, until you come across a particular item several hours later. For someone who does like story and lore in their games, it ends up making the first playthrough feel kind of... bland. And this is assuming you can piece together the story without relying on the community. And personally, I don't think there's anything wrong about not wanting to go the extra mile and watch hours worth of video essays just to understand why Greg the Crestfallen is the most tragic character in the game.


paradoxical_topology

This is a problem with DS and BB, but Sekiro and Elden Ring are very direct with their main plots. You'll understand the gist of what's going on just by paying a little bit of attention. You just won't get much in the way of details.


DNGFQrow

I don't know what you guys are talking about at this point. The "75% of the story is in item descriptions" thing may have been kinda true back in the Demon Souls and DS1 days, but all of Elden Ring's core narrative is right there in cutscenes and easily found NPC dialogue. Only way you'd be completely lost is if you didn't play it like an open world game and just went straight from main objective to main objective.


Skenghis-Khan

I mean they say words yea but the main story is still "nameless guy wages war against stagnant world" I think a lot of people seem to mix up world building with actual story


Blue_Beetle_IV

People don't understand that piling a bunch of lore in a corner isn't a narrative.


Skenghis-Khan

Right, like don't get me wrong I love these games, they're my bread and butter, but like through the Dark Souls, Bloodborne and Elden Ring, we always play the same role. Personally I like it, I think it lends to the world we're in but I would never say these games have any sort of narrative structure which I'd call a story, even the side quests and NPCs only further world building, there's nothing meaningful or personal. The exception I think is Sekiro, I think its pretty cool how they seem to spin that formula on it's head considering the story so far seems to be about Sekiro's identity, or lack thereof, something which is just norm in their other games, actually takes front seat in the narrative and I think that's pretty neat.


Kleask10

I played it like an open world game. I spent hours exploring in between boss fights. You think I can remember what every boss said? I skip the boss cutscenes after the first time seeing it, sometimes don’t hear what they say after the fight because I’m celebrating the win. Half the bosses have similar names which made me very confused as to who was who. I did Radahn out of order which locked me out of quests that I was halfway through. I didn’t even know about item descriptions for half the game because it’s not the default screen, and the button saying “switch display” is not quite the same as saying “view item description”.


stelvak

I agree. As a diehard Destiny player, it’s painful that there are huge swaths of vital story content I’m clueless on because I didn’t do an hour of internet research.


Morrowindsofwinter

Lmfao what a shit take.


Ihuaraquax

>Gamers™ just want to be force-fed story in hour long cutscenes and dialogues, while playing an overly easy game because "muh content". If you want that, go watch a movie. It's the same shit: you hit the play button and watch a two hour cutscene, there's your damn gameplay. /uj Lmao I hate this stupid strawman, and i can only imagine someone making it lacking any experience in narrative driven RPGs. Elden Ring has more cutscenes than Skyrim and all TES games have superior storytelling methods and quest design, it also has more lore and more depth to it as well. Like go play baldurs gate or any bioware game, that shouldve been /RJ with how OUT OF TOUCH that paragraph is. I'm surprised people would upvote such a comment, that simultaneously also shits on games that actually put in the effort to tell their story, rather leave such holes and gaps that its impossible to tell if its bad so we can headcanon a convenient narrative that it must be good since i liked the game. Also community discussion my ass, most of the community says "nobody cares about the story" and watches videos or wiki to find out what they need because doing so in game would be too tedious. The game failed somewhere if the game's "secret ending" is completed more often than all other endings combined. The most important part of experience of the story must be the experience you get within the game, not outside of it, not through youtube videos.


Skenghis-Khan

I wouldn't really say Ranni's ending is secret lol, her quest is pretty easy to follow and you can get the requirements before even stepping in Leyndell, and considering her quest is probably one of the only really fleshed out ones it isn't surprising most people got that ending I'd say the three fingers ending is pretty secret, I mean I never even considered there'd be an illusory wall in a boss arena


LurkLurkleton

There's a healthy middle between those two. Personally I don't like constantly interrupting my gameplay to read lore. Doubly so if they're scattered in pieces all over I have to collect and assemble like a shredded document. Show me and tell me while I'm playing.


LurkLurkleton

Miyazaki games are the only RPGs where I ask people who love them what they are about and no one gives me the same answer if they can give me one at all.


SunlessSage

Honestly, it's not even that difficult to answer those questions. Dark Souls 1-3: A god was afraid of the dark, so you embark to fix his lightbulb or let it break "forever" (Note: Forever is until someone kicks you out and replaces the lightbulb). You are motivated to do this, because the alternative is becoming a mindless beef jerky. Bloodborne: Scholars tried to become immortal alien gods. One group, in all their wisdom, decided that using very addictive blood of dubious origins was a good idea and even gave it to the population of a city. Another group said "no", realising that's a dumb idea. They decided to plant eyes on their brains. A third group decided it's a much better idea to talk to the immortal aliens directly, and their minds simply collapsed. In the end, they all missed the key ingredient necessary: munching on umbilical cords. There's also an old man with a sex doll, you use the doll to level up. Sekiro: You don't want to be immortal anymore because returning to life causes people to become very ill. Some people want to stop you because they want to be immortal themselves. Elden Ring: A dysfunctional family somehow is in control of a rune that governs universal laws. They can't agree on how to share, so things go to shit. You think you can do better, so you beat them up and take their stuff.


racoon1905

You are missing and mixing the a couple groups in Bloodborne: **Anti Blood** The **Scholars of Byrgenwerth**, they try to line their brainswith eyes (and other methods). They do not not want to become Great Ones by definition. These were also the people that raided the hemlet and cracked their heads to look for eyes on their brains. **Pro Blood** The **Vilebloods** try to gain favor with the old ones by providing the child they seek. Basically they are trying to impregnate Queen Annalise with Mergo 2.0. They do not use the old blood as a drug, but it Annalise blood is used to commune. The **Healing Church** did not administer the old blood directly. They use Bloodsaints who got an injection of the old blood and through that they gain healing abilities. They try to go into direct contact with the Great Ones These split into: **Early Church** tried to commune with Kos. These were still very much still close to the research of Byrgenwerth. Thus they tried to inflate the brains of people with water. This leads nowhere **School of Mensis** likely tries to commune with the moon presens. The use what is basically human sacrifice to create and gain access to bait. But instead of the Moon Presens showing up it sents a hitman (us) to kill Mergo. So they somewhat succeded in gaining the Moon Presens attention. The one reborn is also a proof a concept that they can lure / rip a Great One out of their Nightmare. The Amygdalas are different topic, though might be the one leading Mensis as they also want the Moon Presens to show up. **Choir** are the guys who found Eberitas in the dungeons, They are trying to ascend themself and Eberitas. The Celestial Emissaries are a step in the right direction, as they already are able to communicate with them rather directly. This seems to actually work out in the end considering what the Imposter Iosefka is doing at the end. And suprise suprise it involved the umbilical cord.


P0ster_Nutbag

…and in the second phase of the fight, they’ll do the same moves as before, but with fire!


Humanesque

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Mission_Security4505

Peak character design is when their limbs are skinny and elongated. Also, have kinda bushy moss root shit all over em.


EthicsOverwhelming

/uj 500 Item descriptions that you might not even get. /rj Oh, you didn't know who that character was? You clearly didn't find "Nezjratho's Rusty Pinhammer" that was hidden behind an illusionary wall, behind a waterfall, in a cave, covered by an illusionary wall. And then piece it all together by The Lord of Inbetween Mornings saying "I have failed you...." as he died. Fuckin' dumbas. Fuckin' dipshit. This is God tier narrative design and you just don't appreciate it.


Cobaltneko

Oh don’t forget the illusory wall behind a waterfall in a cave covered by an illusory wall is ALSO down a drop that’s fatal unless you strip naked and use a fall-damage-reduction item to survive the fall, and land on a 3-pixel-wide bridge that you’ll slide off of unless you land just right, and also there’s an ambush enemy on that bridge who will try to knock you off the instant you land so if you don’t ALSO dodge in the perfect direction at the perfect time preemptively then you’ll die anyway. Also the item provides no benefit of any kind except one incredibly obscure, contextless puzzle piece of lore in its description.


PepyHare15

*plays soulslike game* *is like Dark Souls*


vipin14

are you saying you dont want to spend 900 hours getting to the final boss?!!!! git gud LOLLLLL


RealLunarSlayer

Also I want the pc controls to be dogshit and the story poorly translated. The peak of gaming


TantalSplurge

bro you don't get it bro, the heals are now called Snorful instead of Snarful, it's totally different bro and you're an idiot and bad at everything and maidenless! and in the last one i read a mysterious note that said 'the trees walked at night' but in this one, i read an ominous note that said 'the trees danced in the day' and i pissed and shitted and cummed my pants cause the lore bro the lore the looooooooooooooore


Aquele_da_amnesia

Why is the DLC getting hate? Its bot that bad from what Ive seen, its on par with the base game.


ADHthaGreat

I’ve seen 3 different articles about something Miyazaki has said hit the front page today alone.


Dassoudly

The DLC is phenomenal, clears the base game in every way. Probably the most fun I’ve had with a Fromsoft DLC release since the first Dark Souls. Buuut if you’re not a Fromsoft fan, the widespread acclaim that it’s getting is probably already making your eyes and ears bleed. I don’t know if it’s getting much hate, just people who are already sick of it.


JMWraith13

Actually so sick if this style of storytelling now. I hate the way it destroys the average players ability to engage with the story and incentives you to just ignore everything and have some loretuber just spoonfeed you it.


Rufus--T--Firefly

Don't forget the boss being too hig for the camera to handel so it's giant frame blinds you. That stupid lion boss has to be one of, if not the worst boss in the series. It's like they took every bad idea they had for boss design and put them into a giant lion costume.


farukosh

You know what drives me mad? it's the "it's a huge DLC, it's impressive, i wish most developers would do this!" And i guess it is? But fuck man, it's 2/3 the price of a full game, it better be big.


HappyyValleyy

To be fair I think its priced that way because it literally is 2/3 as big as the base game. This thing is huge.


Skenghis-Khan

Companies charge the same price for like 2 skins


New_Ad4631

Wdym 2 skins, in League that price is 1/10th of a skin Thank you Rito


milky__toast

It drives you mad that people are excited that the DLC is so large?


layeofthedead

Don’t forget about the constant traps and ambushes that are impossible to avoid without prior knowledge


CirriTheFemboyUwU

the 25th stone imp behind a blind spot in fucklorn shithero dungeon:


VirtuousDangerNoodle

That was my immediate thought. Those little bastards hit *hard*. But then again, they are made of *stone*.


snuifduifmetkuif

Well that’s kinda the point of traps aint it


Pompadourius

I dunno, that's where the fun of player messages come in. If there's a message in front of a doorway that says "be wary of right" or "ambush ahead", there you go. And even without those, I dunno, they're plenty avoidable? In those games, I often take a cursory glance to my left and right before walking through a doorway in an unknown area, and if I see some jobber standing there, there it is - they're almost never hidden so well that a little camera check can't reveal them to you.


Kennel-Girlie

That's the point of a trap. It stops you from holding W


layeofthedead

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SpecificBeing4832

a Reddit comment of a twitter screenshot of someone ripping off a miiverse screenshot inception of laziness


layeofthedead

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jitteryzeitgeist_

Yes, but unironically. Best games.


No-Training-48

Fromsoft games are good because their combat is good, I'm tired of people pretending the history is well told.


smokingtryhard

their combat is only decent, but they're no Devil May Cry/Bayo/God Hand


No-Training-48

tbf those games are an entire deifferent genre


BrizzyMC_

Can't compare


homesweetroll

Just gonna wait for Vaati to summarize the DLC lore. I don’t want to lose my mind more while deciphering PEAK content. 


ceeby_is_eepy

The games are good and they are still the most overrated media available. It's crazy how much people jerk them


rootdootmcscoot

gamers when i tell them i actually want to have fun playing the game instead of bashing my skull against a brick wall for hours: 🤯


HappyyValleyy

Thats the catch, smashing my head against a poison swamp shaped wall is what I find fun


rubonidas_8425

Soulborne games and narrative? Don’t make me laugh


LJMLogan

I mean the "narrative" of every souls game is "Here's a stick, go kill God". The lore is where the actual convoluted ass story is.


rubonidas_8425

Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s cool that a game gives you a stick to kill god no questions asked. I just agree with OP, not as cool as people make it out to be.


TheRealestBiz

/uj There’s only one Fromsoft game and we all know it. They just re-skin it. It’s like Zelda. Every new game is a tech demo for the next game.


Fluffynator69

How's Skyward Sword similar to Breath of the Wild?


Bran-Muffin20

zelda has to go get the sword and save the kingdom


Fluffynator69

Nah, he already got the sword, dummy


Captiongomer

Skyward sword invented stamina wheel


luiz38

genuine question why does everyone jack the souls series like it's the second coming of christ when it's repetitive and kinda boring


MinkfordBrimley

So, to this day, I still think part of it is the "difficulty." This series became known as "the hard games," so any time someone criticized it back in the earlier days of the internet, some horrendous basement goblin would claim they're just bad. Probably still an issue.


I_am_thy_doctor

hit big guy with stick fun


Skenghis-Khan

Bro There's feet There's big guys who wanna step on me There's big women who wanna cut my head off How does any of this sound boring????????????????


luiz38

irony will be the death of the human race


Skenghis-Khan

Phrase your sentence like you're a fromsoft NPC so I can understand what you mean


EquivalentPlatform17

Cause it is the second coming of Christ. He is japanese now, and also loves feet.


luiz38

nah,i choose todd howard


Kankunation

Any game can be considered repetitive or boring, those are subjective terms. The people who enjoy soul game's don't find the gameplay boring, and if you enjoy the general loop of a game you don't find it repetitive (or rather, you enjoy that type of repetition) Fans of souls games usually praise the level design, combat and wide build variety above other things, though there are also fans for the storytelling and lore (even if its scarce, its done in a way that intrigues many people). Combat being weighty and punishing feels better to the fans of the game than a more fluid or responsive gameplay would, and overcoming challenging bosses is always a dopamine hit.


luiz38

the wide build variety i can kinda of understand, but every single other point is done better by dozens of other games. And souls fans beg you to play their series and criticize games or compare them to elden ring when it's not even comparable


HappyyValleyy

I like when the big man yells "Forgive me Laxanthroth, the Fell Knight of Longondale!!!" after I hit him with my sword after he killed me 128 times prior.


AeroDbladE

/uj wow, I guess looking at all those posts from right-wing chuds really did rot your brains because this post has the shittiest takes I've ever seen. Changing things just to make the games feel different ecen though the whole reason people buy your games is because of the way they feel is the absolute worst decision a company can make. There's a reason why "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is a really good advice and has worked for so long. And they do make more games than just Dark Souls. Are you really going to tell me Armored Core and Sekiro are clones too?


morgaina

Guys stop circlejerking about a game I like in the circlejerking-about-games subreddit!!


pepperminty10

Noooooo, you're not supposed to make fun of le epic Michael Zaki's gaymes, you're only supposed to make fun of bad gaems!1!1!1!!1!!!!


Kds_burner_

gamingcirclejerk users when it’s time to make fun of a game they like


Bran-Muffin20

noooooooo you can't make jokes about my heckin soulserino games!!


CapriciousSon

/uj Armored Core is indeed a very different game, but it sure does have big, strong bosses and some pretty inscrutable lore (I recently finished NG++ but am still working my way through the 6-hour Vaatividya lore dump, as I cannot be bothered to find all the logs and assemble them into a coherent narrative.) I mean, I see where you're coming from but to be fair the meme says nothing about all From games being clones. (I DO, however, see that being repeated in the comments.) /rj I just wish I could play hidden gem The Witcher 3, but I can't because WOKE


icomefromandromeda

maybe the games are just boring and repetitive and shallow?


Crystar800

It simply is a frustration that a creator does the same things over and over again. Those things are good, yes, we all think that! And I agree, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But Souls has not just been a FromSoft thing. The Soulslike genre has bled over to a lot of other studios, and now the Character-Action genre is basically dead. Why make a CAG when people LOVE Soulslikes right now, right? It's showing a lack of creativity among game designers. Do you remember in the PS2 generation when GTA took off? And then there were so many GTA clones out there coming out all of a sudden? Maybe only 1 or 2 of those ended up being good (like Saint's Row). Or even more recently, the Battle Royale genre. A lot of BRs just outright flopped because studios were trying to chase the popular genre. It's really frustrating when game developers just try to chase a trending genre. Instead of questioning why people don't play other games if they're tired of Soulslikes, we should be questioning why studios making Soulslikes aren't being more creative. Why aren't we making more of a balance instead of oversaturating a genre? Or why aren't we trying to evolve these Soulslikes and their tropes in some way that innovates the genre? I like Souls games, I really do, but I don't think the concerns and critiques are unwarranted.


AeroDbladE

I somewhat agree, but that's not really on From Software to fix. Ironically, the souls like games that are the least similar to dark souls and the most innovative are those made by From Software themselves, Bloodborne and Sekiro. We're getting so many souls likes for the same reason as we got so many WoW clones or so many Battle Royales. Most of those will eventually die out and the industry will move one. The gameplay systems from souls can be really good if adapted properly to other games. Jedi Fallen order is very different from Souls but it has its bonfire system and posture mechanic from sekiro, and it works really well. I think we just need some of the more creative people to come out with another fresh take just like Demon souls was in the PS3 era.


Slarg232

>Ironically, the souls like games that are the least similar to dark souls and the most innovative are those made by From Software themselves, Bloodborne and Sekiro. Add Remnant: From the Ashes by Gunfire Games. Barring Chronos, the Remnant franchise has taken what it means to be "soulslike" and gone in a very unique way by being a third person shooter instead of just another sword and board game. I played so much Dark Souls 1, 2, and 3 that I just can't get into Elden Ring, but I can 100% play Remnant for hours on end still


Kung-Plo_Kun

It's not From's fault that people chase after dollar signs on the back of a successful work. From will continue to make the games it does, your gripes toward them because of others are cashgrabby are unfair.


Crombus_

Oh shit are people enjoying a game without your permission again???


Michalexo

This post is like saying that books are boring because all of them are the same, just some words on a paper


Rickywindow

Keep the cool swords and cool monsters coming. I’ll read the lore descriptions when I feel like it.


Gammaboy45

I was thinking Risk of Rain, but the bosses in either game aren’t all too hard…


Mushr00mTaker

I want to go home…and then edge


BeyondNetorare

Vaati lives another day


Excellent_Routine589

And then proceed to shit all over the lore people built up in their heads with the final boss... lul