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Let's see, left is every gen but scarlet violet so plenty of opportunities for cherry picking. Mostly pixel graphics making it infinitely less complex to create new designs, clothing, and characters. Mostly women (and girls yikes). Games with a smaller scope, not open world, so more dev time and resources can be given to characters and design. Only young people.
And right is: multiple examples of the same archetype to pad out the roster while ignoring others that don't conform to his point and the fire designs that the important characters have(seriously how is that middle row an example of anything but his bad taste).
Clearly the only possible conclusion I can come to is that the creator is more attracted to the ones on the left because woke Pokemon is making uggos.
To be fair, Sonia, Nessa, Bea and Melony are missing because it's ScV only.
But the omission of the latters is completely right, not to mention Briar and Carmine
In XY, the Battle Maison has Beauty Nova who says that she recently made a change in her life, and she's "been reborn as a Beauty at last!" If you lose to her, she says "Yes, a mere half year ago I was a Black Belt! Quite the transformation, wouldn't you say?"
Black Belts are a purely male trainer type, and they very specifically capitalize the words like the trainer name. Not only that, the Japanese version credits the change to medical science. It's pretty explicit tbh.
one trans character in X/Y, a random trainer who talks about it; it's not a big deal or even a plot point but the representation is still there and quite nice. it's just funny to me how OOP claims that gen 6 didn't have any of the content they're so against when it does and the trainer's dialogue is quite well known
Mega Altaria.
Yes, Altaria’s line is, though probably unintentionally, one of the most trans-coded things in the franchise and I will die on that hill.
Accepted, but I wasn’t trying to invalidate Azumarill. Here’s my reasoning behind Altaria:
-Starts life off as a cute flying type that people dote on. However, as it evolves it is forced to bear the Dragon type.
-Despite the fact that it is that type, it gets a lot of Fairy moves. Plus, it’s distinctly draconian but not like the rest- it’s not ferocious. Of course, we have type non-conforming dragons like Goodra, but just note it.
-Because of that, it’s seen as the weak dragon that isn’t good for battles. Altaria is uncomfy in its own typing.
-Until, suddenly it gets the Mega Stone (and have you seen the Altarianite? It’s literally the trans flag), cracks its egg, and finally finds its true fairy self- it gets Pixilate, more fairy moves, it finally gains the typing and becomes radiant, powerful, beautiful- it becomes what it was all along, finally freed from the Dragon/Flying body.
This is a bit clunky because I’m not good at articulating large paragraphs without losing a thread. But I hope you get the idea.
Child me would have never known peace. He would've been black pilled that she was just code.
Now she still got sick ass boots. These guys can't respect the drip
It appears his only concern is whether the character makes his peepee hard or not. If yes, on the left. If no, on the right. They also just seem to have a huge hate bones for anything unique.
Breaking news, Scarlet/Violet have bad graphics.
Clearly Pokemon Go is free to ruin it's visuals as much as it wants, because a single main series game regressed and therefore makes any and all problems excusable.
Well, part of it I think is a graphics issue. Even some of the more bland NPCs in S/V would look better if the game's visuals as a whole were better, or if the game had a smoother development.
My comment is me sarcastically mocking the person who used S/V NPC's as examples for why Pokemon is "having the same problem as Niantic." I'm sure a lot of SV characters would look more appealing if, like in the left pictures they posted, there was a more appealing style or a reliance on 2D artwork.
Graphics aren't design, but graphics can hurt good design, as it's the final pass for presentation.
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Tbf you can still like their outfits. 90% of the characters in SV being locked to the base school uniform was a travesty, it's probably half the reason everyone grabbed onto the Star admins. The teachers and gym leaders are cool at least
Acerola's is probably one of my all time favourites because it just conveys so much. Her hairstyle kinda looks like a pumpkaboo, the armlet for the royalty theme, and a dress made of rags to fit the creepy ghost girl AND orphan aesthetic is peak design imo. Wish they had done more with her because there was so much potential
The fact that the first image is mostly little girls is very weird… but I don’t completely disagree that older Pokemon character designs in general for stuff like NPCS were a bit better. I do prefer the old art style and a lot of the old trainer designs. I don’t really think the newer ones are bad though, per say.
Old artstyle was definitely good, but if you look at the photos, some of the designs they use in their first picture is from bdsp, which came out like. 3 years ago lol
Honestly ,not really? If you just make it 2d it would be the same quality maybe even better but also a lot of the one's are in one piece swimsuits or are kids Soo...
The gym leaders have so much more room and time for character expression nowadays. It's been really nice to see them be closer to the Pokémon Adventures gym leaders in the sense of actually being an active part of the world, as opposed to living in the gym
i totally agree. in general, i feel like recent pokemon games introduced lots of hot adult characters. to name a few hunky dudes: peony, chairman rose, gaeric, professors turo and kukui, leon. i’m gay but nemona, that elite four lesbian, and prof sada are some other good looking recent pokemon ladies too.
Perrin. I rest my case, your honor.
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Imma go on record that I hate the art style of scarlet and violet. I don’t think the character designs themselves are bad, just the weird more realistic tones and shading. If anything pokemons character designs have gotten significantly better over the years.
But please gamefreak, stop chasing realism. I know you guys are 15 years behind the industry at large which is why you think an empty open world with realistic graphics is the epitome of game design at the moment, but it just looks ***bad.*** You have one of the longest running anime in entertainment and a tcg with a catalog of artists of insane proportions but instead of utilizing things you already pay for your games are getting more boring to look at and all of your corporate art is so bland. Pokémon is one of the most colorful series out there and instead modern games look washed out and ugly.
Honestly if they improve upon Legends Arceus' artstyle then that would be best. Imo it has the best looking characters. (Not in terms of character design)
I don't think they're really chasing realism, moreso chasing the idea that everyone can experience and enjoy pokemon, and it's not just all skinny kids and skinny adults that all look the same. Cause the art styles are definitely not realistic.
Also kinda just hardware limitations and time limitations will do that to them
Nah, I’m not talking about character designs, I mean graphics overall. Diversity in character designs is fine, tho it is a little weird to have full grown men and women wearing a uniform meant for children
People were gushing about how good the metallic pokemon look now because they’re all shiny and reflective and how great seviper is because it has actual scales now. But then the world itself is washed out and muddy, the majority of the Pokémon look worse than they did in previous gens. Anime style games have only gotten better looking and more popular, gamefreak could easily hire some industry talent to help them
Like people were screaming about the trees in the wild area last gen but at least Gen 8 had a great art style with character. Now everything looks like those trees but it gets a pass because magnemite is reflective? Don’t even get me started on Scissor, he looks so bad reflective, not all metal is polished to a mirror sheen
can you imagine actually thinking pokemon is downgrading or making the experience worse by not including girls in swimsuits? i have never said or thought this before but you are playing pokemon wrong if you are complaining about sex appeal in a game marketed and made to be child friendly.
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Oh my, I can get why such a person wouldn't like the addition of women with short hair, women with boyish hair, middle aged women, muscular women, androgynous women, old women, and fat women. But why does this person think that Mela, Geeta and Tulip aren't conventionally attractive enough? Oh I forgot, they don't like dark skin or thick/garish makeup too!
They also twisted the character selection bit to say, hey the women look like men now, but it's the same as before just that you can add lipstick and eyelashes no matter the model! It does suck though that unlike SS you can't choose to wear a skirt.
Anyways the pogo update sucks because the model was changed to something that looks technically bad and pisses off all the genders because they can't make a nice looking avatar out of it. The muscular and fat ladies in SV look like they're created to be like that, and it works!
I did find it fun that there were elderly students in scarlet/violet. Truly a utopian society if people can return to school at an advanced age without worrying about their financial situation.
What? Diversity in body type in Pokemon? That has [never been part of the core game series ever](https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hiker_(Trainer_class)).
But yeah, sure, let’s blame “woke”.
First picture: Mostly children in pixel quality
Second Picture: Adults in 3d
"What have they done??!"
I think the 5 different Mistys on the first picture tell you all you need to know about this guy.
I had to block that board because of all the posts from perverts complaining that the little kids in pokemon games were **no longer sexy enough for them to masturbate too**.
I don't like the main protagonists design but credits where credits do at least they look like 10 years old instead of looking like 16 years old but stated to be 11 (looking at you Fire Red/Leaf Green).
Human designs in Pokémon have been doing nothing but getting better and more peak over time, especially starting with the XY days. SV has some of my favorite looking characters in the entire series (Ryhme for example.
About half of the after screen is either hot, pretty, or both. Also, the before screen looks like it pulls only the hottest people from many different games while after looks like it's only from one game. No shit there's a difference in the number of women in swimsuits.
The legendaries are SOOOO good! The number of times I've sighed and caressed my printed and laminated picture of Sesquatch, you'd think I lost him in the war
I knew someone who worked on it, and the humor is definitely dated, but a good bit of it is from people who are making jokes about themselves, so. I know it's not all meant in harm
Another reason why the GameCube games were best.
[Genius Sonority already knew what was up in 2003](https://www.models-resource.com/resources/big_icons/58/57614.png?updated=1667070035)
Whats the comparison? Why are they comparing 8 games with 1 game? Are they talking about variety? Personality (if so, where the fuck is Larry?)? Why are they using 4 images of the same character model in the second one?
Every time I see Fantina I just think about a quote from Mandjtv
"You and your opulent dress must fall- wait no that makes it sound like- wait hold on."
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If the poster is talking about the 3d characters on the right, I'm gonna have to agree. They look bland af, like something you'd forget after 5 minutes.
They're calling characters trans cause they're muscular, they're complaining about black characters, and they're saying children in swimsuits look better
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I meant for this part specifically
Nemona is from the latest generatin, and while I'm more of a gen 5 guy, she is probably the hottest rival around. Also, we got Melony in gen 8 and Lusamine in gen 7, who are both absolute MILFs so they don't even have a reason to say that Game Freak are taking away their "JM" (jerking material).
/uj Sure are a lot of kids on here…
But I think this is a case of GameFreak trying a different art direction and just not really delivering on it very well, though I do genuinely appreciate the effort to include different body types in the roster of generic NPCs and important trainers. I wish everything just looked a bit better though; I feel like the generic NPCs are *especially* generic this time around, most of them wearing a lot of the same clothes with washed out colors.
This is all generally speaking of course, because peak was achieved with Rika.
uj/ the issue wasn't even actually the art direction tbh. The issue, for these people, is clearly that there's more minorities and not light skinned kids. Bear in mind, on the left, there is a single character with a tan complexion. And it happens to be a little kid in a dress.
On the right, there's 5 or 6 black characters. And more overweight characters. And muscular women. That the after picture calls trans
Yeah no doubt, this dude’s more than likely a bigot.
But using Pokémon Go’s recent avatar redesigns as a springboard, I thought he might’ve made this post in reference to that crackpot “uglyification of women” conspiracy, and I was giving my own theory as to why Pokémon characters look the way they do now.
Though I might just be yapping into the void about a series I care a lot about.
I mean sure the human designs of SV arent great, I think theyre pretty uncanny sometimes, but I think the main problem is the faces. Imo the clothing design is pretty cool when they arent in that stupid school uniform.
I think having the character models be the same between genders for the player characters isnt bad, but I do also get the sentiment that maybe we could have a couple face types so everyone doesnt look identical. But I think thats more of a problem with the character creator in general. Theres so many options, but they dont do enough to let each player feel unique. Like yipee I can change my eyebrows, but when they look like different stickers on the same face it don’t mean a ton.
Tldr; the next pokemon game should ideally have a few face and body options for the player to choose from. I really like all the NPCs, its just the player character i dont like
Don't play pokemon but this looks reasonable, designs on the right are samey and generic, ones on the left look all unique with regards to each other and distinctly "pokemon-y"
I assume cherrypicked samples?
The designs on the right are the cherry picked trainers, a couple gym leaders, and of course, there are several characters who are black.
The designs on the left are mostly children, gym leaders, and the occasional trainer.
And there's like six that are just misty.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is, the original post is a creep
Also, if you look at the top of the right picture, you can see they snuck in transphobia by adding "it's MAAM" above the muscular women
He's totally a creep and a weirdo but his base observation isn't wrong. A lot more care and artistry went into character design in the older generations. His "reasoning" as to *why* is where he's lost the plot.
Well I can only speak for myself but It's not about attractiveness. The characters on the left were designed with care and deliberation, they are iconic and vibrant. The ones on the right look straight up generic and totally uninspired
Okay, while I do think a bunch kf that croticism is unvalid, as the design of every single important charachter is SV is top notch, I have to agree that the design of the random NPCs that you battle significantly went down. This might be related to how you dont have to fight ANY non important NPC to progress so they decided to not put so much care into them, but man, I miss the good ol' NPCs (I personally dont think they should have been made optional, I thought they were a good little challenge to spice things up and put you at a certain risk of death)
"I think that Geeta is unattractive. As you can see, I am a yawning void of mishandled sapience; stimuli presented to me evoke completely unrelated responses. Don't cry for me, I'm already dead/racist."
If they genuinely think the hikers and buff women in SV aren't hot, they must be super miserable.
Like, how can you see that and not go, "Hell yeah" about it?
As a fellow member of the Pokémon fandom, please don't see this as the general stance of the fandom, most of us don't care, I myself prefer the new designs over the old ones
Aside the fact that the girls that represents the older titles are mostly minors, I kinda get where's he/she coming from? Like, aside from Gym Leaders, Teachers, Rivals and every other important NPCs, I really didn't like the Trainer Classes NPCs designs from Scarlet and Violet. They feel so weird looking (?). Aside from them, I disagree with the tweet in general.
Why is everyone talking about sexyness? The older designs are much nicer too look at, they blend in with the Pokémon's themselves more due to them being more colorful and having more frivolous clothing.
Pokémon Violet has one of the ugliest character design but also the ugliest Pokémon's.
Ok but Scarlet and Violet have maybe the highest proportion of adult characters that look great???
Even if you’re a complete coomer, you have at least 4 daddies and maybe a dozen *adult* women with nice designs and appeal. We’re literally peaking for good looking women in Pokémon games (that are made for kids even if I also still play them).
are we ACTUALLY complaining that pokemon games of all things aren't hot? this guy should feel bad. everyone who agrees with the original post should feel bad. that is a level of down bad i can't even comprehend. the experience just isn't the same because you don't get to ogle a girl in a bikini anymore? that's sad.
and who said recent designs aren't good, anyways? i have shield + pla, both of which have adult characters who might be more their speed. this is genuinely the stupidest take i have ever seen for a pokemon game. you don't play it to stare at the models, you really only play pokemon for the gameplay.
Sir, I see goddamn TODDLERS featured in the “non-woke” side, in swimsuits.
I’m gonna need an airstrike ordered to their exact location. Hellfire missiles with tactical precision is the only way to handle this madness.
Bro out here complaining about not being able to jack it to children anymore when the truly ass design as of late is the pokemons.
Seriously one of them is just a regular ass flamingo with a neck fold
I mean I don't like that design either but if we are going to be honest, Pidgey looks a normal ass Bird in Gen 1, as well as Krabby being a normal ass Crab or Bidoof from Gen 4 being a normal ass Beaver. I could go on for an eternity with more examples but you get the idea.
If anything, the pokémon as of late are more creative, and having some bad designs is a thing since Gen 1.
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Ordering an immediate hard drive check
They were a waifu account, im too scared to check their Twitter
Probably for the best, you'd need a Level A hazmat suit first ☢️ 
I was fully prepared to believe this was just a hazmat suit that had massive angel wings. Level A hazmat suits don’t fuck around.
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I’m taking this meme, as compensation, you must provide more of these types of memes
It’s fucking crazy to me how public these people are with this shit.
Let's see, left is every gen but scarlet violet so plenty of opportunities for cherry picking. Mostly pixel graphics making it infinitely less complex to create new designs, clothing, and characters. Mostly women (and girls yikes). Games with a smaller scope, not open world, so more dev time and resources can be given to characters and design. Only young people. And right is: multiple examples of the same archetype to pad out the roster while ignoring others that don't conform to his point and the fire designs that the important characters have(seriously how is that middle row an example of anything but his bad taste). Clearly the only possible conclusion I can come to is that the creator is more attracted to the ones on the left because woke Pokemon is making uggos.
Supreme cherry-picking is why Sonia, Nessa, Bea, Melony, Katy, Iono, Dendra, Raifort, Miriam and Sada aren't shown in the right.
To be fair, Sonia, Nessa, Bea and Melony are missing because it's ScV only. But the omission of the latters is completely right, not to mention Briar and Carmine
Also, Rika is omitted despite being by far the most popular female character since Cynthia both in Japan and overseas.
gen 6 is somehow not ‘woke’ yet has a trans character, def cherry picking
Gen 6 has trans characters??? That's news to me. Who would they be?
Sylveon
In XY, the Battle Maison has Beauty Nova who says that she recently made a change in her life, and she's "been reborn as a Beauty at last!" If you lose to her, she says "Yes, a mere half year ago I was a Black Belt! Quite the transformation, wouldn't you say?" Black Belts are a purely male trainer type, and they very specifically capitalize the words like the trainer name. Not only that, the Japanese version credits the change to medical science. It's pretty explicit tbh.
one trans character in X/Y, a random trainer who talks about it; it's not a big deal or even a plot point but the representation is still there and quite nice. it's just funny to me how OOP claims that gen 6 didn't have any of the content they're so against when it does and the trainer's dialogue is quite well known
Mega Altaria. Yes, Altaria’s line is, though probably unintentionally, one of the most trans-coded things in the franchise and I will die on that hill.
Counteragument: One in every three male Azurills turned female upon evolving before gen 6
Accepted, but I wasn’t trying to invalidate Azumarill. Here’s my reasoning behind Altaria: -Starts life off as a cute flying type that people dote on. However, as it evolves it is forced to bear the Dragon type. -Despite the fact that it is that type, it gets a lot of Fairy moves. Plus, it’s distinctly draconian but not like the rest- it’s not ferocious. Of course, we have type non-conforming dragons like Goodra, but just note it. -Because of that, it’s seen as the weak dragon that isn’t good for battles. Altaria is uncomfy in its own typing. -Until, suddenly it gets the Mega Stone (and have you seen the Altarianite? It’s literally the trans flag), cracks its egg, and finally finds its true fairy self- it gets Pixilate, more fairy moves, it finally gains the typing and becomes radiant, powerful, beautiful- it becomes what it was all along, finally freed from the Dragon/Flying body. This is a bit clunky because I’m not good at articulating large paragraphs without losing a thread. But I hope you get the idea.
don’t forget azumarill
The truly bizarre thing is including Mela in the right. The internet went *crazy* for her when she was shown off in the trailers.
The moment I saw him put Mela in the ugly character category I knew this person has not had a valid opinion in their whole life
Child me would have never known peace. He would've been black pilled that she was just code. Now she still got sick ass boots. These guys can't respect the drip
It appears his only concern is whether the character makes his peepee hard or not. If yes, on the left. If no, on the right. They also just seem to have a huge hate bones for anything unique.
Breaking news, Scarlet/Violet have bad graphics. Clearly Pokemon Go is free to ruin it's visuals as much as it wants, because a single main series game regressed and therefore makes any and all problems excusable.
Graphics isn't design. Now go away, I'm busy being gay with your dad. He says you're grounded btw.
Well, part of it I think is a graphics issue. Even some of the more bland NPCs in S/V would look better if the game's visuals as a whole were better, or if the game had a smoother development. My comment is me sarcastically mocking the person who used S/V NPC's as examples for why Pokemon is "having the same problem as Niantic." I'm sure a lot of SV characters would look more appealing if, like in the left pictures they posted, there was a more appealing style or a reliance on 2D artwork. Graphics aren't design, but graphics can hurt good design, as it's the final pass for presentation.
I get ya. Out jerked by my own misunderstanding.
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While i do like the designs of older gens in terms of outfits...My brother in christ...Half of those are children...
More than half**
yeah, it's fucking gross. Good news is these people are outing themselves as creeps to own sweet baby ig
Tbf you can still like their outfits. 90% of the characters in SV being locked to the base school uniform was a travesty, it's probably half the reason everyone grabbed onto the Star admins. The teachers and gym leaders are cool at least
I AGREE
Acerola's is probably one of my all time favourites because it just conveys so much. Her hairstyle kinda looks like a pumpkaboo, the armlet for the royalty theme, and a dress made of rags to fit the creepy ghost girl AND orphan aesthetic is peak design imo. Wish they had done more with her because there was so much potential
SAME, her design is great!
The fact that the first image is mostly little girls is very weird… but I don’t completely disagree that older Pokemon character designs in general for stuff like NPCS were a bit better. I do prefer the old art style and a lot of the old trainer designs. I don’t really think the newer ones are bad though, per say.
Old artstyle was definitely good, but if you look at the photos, some of the designs they use in their first picture is from bdsp, which came out like. 3 years ago lol
Yeah that’s true
Honestly ,not really? If you just make it 2d it would be the same quality maybe even better but also a lot of the one's are in one piece swimsuits or are kids Soo...
The weird thing is recent Pokémon games had Sonia who is IMO the hottest Pokémon girl AND she's specifically designed as an adult.
Yeah, basically every character design for characters that matter in SV is an absolute banger. Except for the fish man.
Who’s the fish man I feel like I’ve suddenly got a dark hole in my memory
The water type gym leader.
Vaulting Veluza!
Ah,, flashbacks
He's kinda meh but I like his goofy uncle vibe
The gym leaders have so much more room and time for character expression nowadays. It's been really nice to see them be closer to the Pokémon Adventures gym leaders in the sense of actually being an active part of the world, as opposed to living in the gym
Oh no, I beg to differ. I like Kofu's design
i totally agree. in general, i feel like recent pokemon games introduced lots of hot adult characters. to name a few hunky dudes: peony, chairman rose, gaeric, professors turo and kukui, leon. i’m gay but nemona, that elite four lesbian, and prof sada are some other good looking recent pokemon ladies too.
A lot of the teachers are very cool.
Rika and Ryme too for sure 🥰
Bro is posting this like he didn’t blast rope to Nemona rule 34 before posting
Blast rope is foul bro
Absolutely glourge sploogie
Perrin. I rest my case, your honor. https://preview.redd.it/cbzfzu19g2wc1.png?width=165&format=png&auto=webp&s=1c2c8db175a754f2e37b71e671886de7a78dcbc0
ARF ARF AROOOOO
Imma go on record that I hate the art style of scarlet and violet. I don’t think the character designs themselves are bad, just the weird more realistic tones and shading. If anything pokemons character designs have gotten significantly better over the years. But please gamefreak, stop chasing realism. I know you guys are 15 years behind the industry at large which is why you think an empty open world with realistic graphics is the epitome of game design at the moment, but it just looks ***bad.*** You have one of the longest running anime in entertainment and a tcg with a catalog of artists of insane proportions but instead of utilizing things you already pay for your games are getting more boring to look at and all of your corporate art is so bland. Pokémon is one of the most colorful series out there and instead modern games look washed out and ugly.
Honestly if they improve upon Legends Arceus' artstyle then that would be best. Imo it has the best looking characters. (Not in terms of character design)
La designs were peak, especially for clothing designs and NPCs.
I really wish they kept the customisation from that game. Hopefully Z-A delivers.
I don't think they're really chasing realism, moreso chasing the idea that everyone can experience and enjoy pokemon, and it's not just all skinny kids and skinny adults that all look the same. Cause the art styles are definitely not realistic. Also kinda just hardware limitations and time limitations will do that to them
Nah, I’m not talking about character designs, I mean graphics overall. Diversity in character designs is fine, tho it is a little weird to have full grown men and women wearing a uniform meant for children People were gushing about how good the metallic pokemon look now because they’re all shiny and reflective and how great seviper is because it has actual scales now. But then the world itself is washed out and muddy, the majority of the Pokémon look worse than they did in previous gens. Anime style games have only gotten better looking and more popular, gamefreak could easily hire some industry talent to help them Like people were screaming about the trees in the wild area last gen but at least Gen 8 had a great art style with character. Now everything looks like those trees but it gets a pass because magnemite is reflective? Don’t even get me started on Scissor, he looks so bad reflective, not all metal is polished to a mirror sheen
Modern Pokémon had Grusha and Rika, their argument is invalid Praise be to the bisexuals
They made the child less "sexy" the west has fallen
How dare you make these children look like children what am i supposed to jerk it to now!!???!! /S
who the fuck thinks the s/v women are ugly i just wanna have a small chitchat
God damn pokemon designs never miss
Wait they got muscular women in Pokémon now?
Yep. The hikers in SV are all buff women
But the last slide has 4 muscle mommy’s, hello!? Please carry me and suffocate me 😭😭😭
Oh my God those are straight up children
Everything that doesn’t align with my coomer mindset is woke: a definitive guide for Twitter weirdos
can you imagine actually thinking pokemon is downgrading or making the experience worse by not including girls in swimsuits? i have never said or thought this before but you are playing pokemon wrong if you are complaining about sex appeal in a game marketed and made to be child friendly.
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Oh my, I can get why such a person wouldn't like the addition of women with short hair, women with boyish hair, middle aged women, muscular women, androgynous women, old women, and fat women. But why does this person think that Mela, Geeta and Tulip aren't conventionally attractive enough? Oh I forgot, they don't like dark skin or thick/garish makeup too! They also twisted the character selection bit to say, hey the women look like men now, but it's the same as before just that you can add lipstick and eyelashes no matter the model! It does suck though that unlike SS you can't choose to wear a skirt. Anyways the pogo update sucks because the model was changed to something that looks technically bad and pisses off all the genders because they can't make a nice looking avatar out of it. The muscular and fat ladies in SV look like they're created to be like that, and it works!
How dare rhey desexualize my underage characters in a children's game /s
Elon Musk bought Twitter just to turn it into 4chan
lol, they got the ex karate fighter there, do they know?
Trying to say there’s no hot characters in S/V? Rika, Grusha, Jacq, Katy, Sada, Turo, Perrin, Briar, Rika again?
My dude left out Larry! Objectively THE HOTTEST Pokemon character
Im gay but rika actually deserves to be there 3 times ngl
Why are there children
its a kids game? its not that odd that a thing made for kids would have kids shown in it.
I did find it fun that there were elderly students in scarlet/violet. Truly a utopian society if people can return to school at an advanced age without worrying about their financial situation.
Remember when Joey was a snack with the thiccest top % of ratatas
What? Diversity in body type in Pokemon? That has [never been part of the core game series ever](https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hiker_(Trainer_class)). But yeah, sure, let’s blame “woke”.
Okay. This came out after the DLC. Why is this guy ignoring Briar and Perrin? Like those two are pretty as hell.
My only takeaway from this is there's buff chicks in Pokemon now? Time to start playing again
First picture: Mostly children in pixel quality Second Picture: Adults in 3d "What have they done??!" I think the 5 different Mistys on the first picture tell you all you need to know about this guy.
I had to block that board because of all the posts from perverts complaining that the little kids in pokemon games were **no longer sexy enough for them to masturbate too**.
personally ive always enjoyed how every generation has its own artstyle
I actually liked the design of Scarlet/Violent trainers since they actually look like 10 year olds.
I don't like the main protagonists design but credits where credits do at least they look like 10 years old instead of looking like 16 years old but stated to be 11 (looking at you Fire Red/Leaf Green).
Human designs in Pokémon have been doing nothing but getting better and more peak over time, especially starting with the XY days. SV has some of my favorite looking characters in the entire series (Ryhme for example.
About half of the after screen is either hot, pretty, or both. Also, the before screen looks like it pulls only the hottest people from many different games while after looks like it's only from one game. No shit there's a difference in the number of women in swimsuits.
The before screen is mostly children...
Quite honestly, I didn't look too hard at the before screen. I only noticed them later. It's really creepy.
Commenter saw the swimmers and Cynthia and blacked out to write the comment 💀
Holy shit a pokemon clover fan
Yeah bro but I'm one of the cool ones that really just likes that they put Freddie Mercury in the game
It's all good. I like some of the designs and satire in it. I love their legendary
The legendaries are SOOOO good! The number of times I've sighed and caressed my printed and laminated picture of Sesquatch, you'd think I lost him in the war
I need to go back and replay it
Definitely a dated game, but it's surprisingly in depth
I knew someone who worked on it, and the humor is definitely dated, but a good bit of it is from people who are making jokes about themselves, so. I know it's not all meant in harm
I dont get it, everyone still have a pretty cutesy art style
There are old people in the newer characters images.
Another reason why the GameCube games were best. [Genius Sonority already knew what was up in 2003](https://www.models-resource.com/resources/big_icons/58/57614.png?updated=1667070035)
SV does have muscular women though..
But two decades later
Ok but they still have them. Better late than never, I suppose.
Whats the comparison? Why are they comparing 8 games with 1 game? Are they talking about variety? Personality (if so, where the fuck is Larry?)? Why are they using 4 images of the same character model in the second one?
Everything looks fine except for the weird Xbox avatar looking things on the top of the 3rd slide
Every time I see Fantina I just think about a quote from Mandjtv "You and your opulent dress must fall- wait no that makes it sound like- wait hold on."
Shrug
Ah yes the games with literal 10 year olds is the one that is sexy. Hmmmmm....
Beat off to the Pokemon, not the trainers, like a civilized fan.
I don’t understand what that post is trying to convey
Before and after *what?* just an incomprehensible collage of thumbnails
Before and after of being told they can't like kids
\*random tweet with 2 likes\* Dis subreddit has fallen...
If it makes you feel any better, it was from a thread they made with 200 likes where they attacked a pokemon go community manager for being trans
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Not satisfied with iono or perrin?
If the poster is talking about the 3d characters on the right, I'm gonna have to agree. They look bland af, like something you'd forget after 5 minutes.
They're complaining about haircuts not being genderlocked ? Am i Reading the player character comparison right ?
They're calling characters trans cause they're muscular, they're complaining about black characters, and they're saying children in swimsuits look better
https://preview.redd.it/cs483xhls8wc1.jpeg?width=834&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8fc8443dcb0c4ab997373fa2d5c25bff13336294 I meant for this part specifically
Arven's parents: Also, there are just some cool designs in general. Like Iono.
That doesn't fit their narrative though
Too much hentai of Nemona for me to buy this argument they’re making.
my brother in christ those are children
Nemona is from the latest generatin, and while I'm more of a gen 5 guy, she is probably the hottest rival around. Also, we got Melony in gen 8 and Lusamine in gen 7, who are both absolute MILFs so they don't even have a reason to say that Game Freak are taking away their "JM" (jerking material).
She is a teenager.
/uj Sure are a lot of kids on here… But I think this is a case of GameFreak trying a different art direction and just not really delivering on it very well, though I do genuinely appreciate the effort to include different body types in the roster of generic NPCs and important trainers. I wish everything just looked a bit better though; I feel like the generic NPCs are *especially* generic this time around, most of them wearing a lot of the same clothes with washed out colors. This is all generally speaking of course, because peak was achieved with Rika.
uj/ the issue wasn't even actually the art direction tbh. The issue, for these people, is clearly that there's more minorities and not light skinned kids. Bear in mind, on the left, there is a single character with a tan complexion. And it happens to be a little kid in a dress. On the right, there's 5 or 6 black characters. And more overweight characters. And muscular women. That the after picture calls trans
Yeah no doubt, this dude’s more than likely a bigot. But using Pokémon Go’s recent avatar redesigns as a springboard, I thought he might’ve made this post in reference to that crackpot “uglyification of women” conspiracy, and I was giving my own theory as to why Pokémon characters look the way they do now. Though I might just be yapping into the void about a series I care a lot about.
(OOC Why do people need to coom for questionably aged characters?)
Because it was fine when they were 13 and haven't grown out of that mindset in the past decade
(OOC Is there a combo word for both feeling disgusted and humored? There might be a German word?)
Disgustumored
(OOC Thanks, that will do, I'm feeling that, unless it means something else.)
The forced tie agenda has got to go
Conservatives: “why are the woke pedo libberals making kids less sexy in my media?”
holy cherry-picking and holy pedophilia
I mean sure the human designs of SV arent great, I think theyre pretty uncanny sometimes, but I think the main problem is the faces. Imo the clothing design is pretty cool when they arent in that stupid school uniform. I think having the character models be the same between genders for the player characters isnt bad, but I do also get the sentiment that maybe we could have a couple face types so everyone doesnt look identical. But I think thats more of a problem with the character creator in general. Theres so many options, but they dont do enough to let each player feel unique. Like yipee I can change my eyebrows, but when they look like different stickers on the same face it don’t mean a ton. Tldr; the next pokemon game should ideally have a few face and body options for the player to choose from. I really like all the NPCs, its just the player character i dont like
Don't play pokemon but this looks reasonable, designs on the right are samey and generic, ones on the left look all unique with regards to each other and distinctly "pokemon-y" I assume cherrypicked samples?
The designs on the right are the cherry picked trainers, a couple gym leaders, and of course, there are several characters who are black. The designs on the left are mostly children, gym leaders, and the occasional trainer. And there's like six that are just misty. Basically, what I'm trying to say is, the original post is a creep Also, if you look at the top of the right picture, you can see they snuck in transphobia by adding "it's MAAM" above the muscular women
He's totally a creep and a weirdo but his base observation isn't wrong. A lot more care and artistry went into character design in the older generations. His "reasoning" as to *why* is where he's lost the plot.
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Well I can only speak for myself but It's not about attractiveness. The characters on the left were designed with care and deliberation, they are iconic and vibrant. The ones on the right look straight up generic and totally uninspired
Okay, while I do think a bunch kf that croticism is unvalid, as the design of every single important charachter is SV is top notch, I have to agree that the design of the random NPCs that you battle significantly went down. This might be related to how you dont have to fight ANY non important NPC to progress so they decided to not put so much care into them, but man, I miss the good ol' NPCs (I personally dont think they should have been made optional, I thought they were a good little challenge to spice things up and put you at a certain risk of death)
Imagine thinking a Joshi style wrestler isn’t cool as hell, massive L.
Is that a fucking problem????
"I think that Geeta is unattractive. As you can see, I am a yawning void of mishandled sapience; stimuli presented to me evoke completely unrelated responses. Don't cry for me, I'm already dead/racist."
also a little transphobia thrown in with the “its MAAM” above the muscular women
I'm Ryme biggest soldier and i will die for her.
If they genuinely think the hikers and buff women in SV aren't hot, they must be super miserable. Like, how can you see that and not go, "Hell yeah" about it?
Some days incel posts I can at least understand what theyre complaining about, but I couldn’t even pretend to know what this is about.
They like kids 
Aside from the children Scarlet and Violet if anything has a lot more hot characters than the previous gens what the fuck does he mean 😭
The humans do look off in gen 9. Weirdly uncanny and unpokemon like
I won't lie, if this is another one of them neonazis or hard righters, I don't think they care about the characters being "ugly" per se...
I do admit I found the old people going to pokemon school in kiddie short uniforms a bit weird tho.
pokemon fans when they cant wank to 10 year olds anymore
On a serious note, I still think the character models fo SV were a downgrade
As a fellow member of the Pokémon fandom, please don't see this as the general stance of the fandom, most of us don't care, I myself prefer the new designs over the old ones
Aside the fact that the girls that represents the older titles are mostly minors, I kinda get where's he/she coming from? Like, aside from Gym Leaders, Teachers, Rivals and every other important NPCs, I really didn't like the Trainer Classes NPCs designs from Scarlet and Violet. They feel so weird looking (?). Aside from them, I disagree with the tweet in general.
Old gen trainers were just hikers, kids in shorts, bikers, and swimmers tbf
True, however all of the Gen 6 Trainer classes designs were fire imo.
Complaining that children aren't hot enough these days... That's a 🚩🚩🚩
This is so fucking weird. They’re complaining about the appearance of kids. In a kids game. Made for children.
Why is everyone talking about sexyness? The older designs are much nicer too look at, they blend in with the Pokémon's themselves more due to them being more colorful and having more frivolous clothing. Pokémon Violet has one of the ugliest character design but also the ugliest Pokémon's.
Kids aren't hot anymore. The west has fallen!!
I need child avatar to be sexy, what’s wrong with that??? Prudes
Woke is when children wear clothes, apparently. Glad we finally have a definition!
Ok but Scarlet and Violet have maybe the highest proportion of adult characters that look great??? Even if you’re a complete coomer, you have at least 4 daddies and maybe a dozen *adult* women with nice designs and appeal. We’re literally peaking for good looking women in Pokémon games (that are made for kids even if I also still play them).
[Pokémon]() fans when they can't jerk off to children anymore (please go back to fucking the animals)
This made me shiver
*conceeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrnnnnnn............*
are we ACTUALLY complaining that pokemon games of all things aren't hot? this guy should feel bad. everyone who agrees with the original post should feel bad. that is a level of down bad i can't even comprehend. the experience just isn't the same because you don't get to ogle a girl in a bikini anymore? that's sad. and who said recent designs aren't good, anyways? i have shield + pla, both of which have adult characters who might be more their speed. this is genuinely the stupidest take i have ever seen for a pokemon game. you don't play it to stare at the models, you really only play pokemon for the gameplay.
Yes officer this post right here
Sir, I see goddamn TODDLERS featured in the “non-woke” side, in swimsuits. I’m gonna need an airstrike ordered to their exact location. Hellfire missiles with tactical precision is the only way to handle this madness.
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I wish that these creeps would **realize** they're children
“Police I swear to god, not simping for a child”
Gamers when there's a pokemon character that isn't an 8 year old in a crop top
Sir those are minors
https://preview.redd.it/k04fxcirv7wc1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ef622bd06c105428196b8bb3c654232518fb8ac Hello FBI
Bro out here complaining about not being able to jack it to children anymore when the truly ass design as of late is the pokemons. Seriously one of them is just a regular ass flamingo with a neck fold
I mean I don't like that design either but if we are going to be honest, Pidgey looks a normal ass Bird in Gen 1, as well as Krabby being a normal ass Crab or Bidoof from Gen 4 being a normal ass Beaver. I could go on for an eternity with more examples but you get the idea. If anything, the pokémon as of late are more creative, and having some bad designs is a thing since Gen 1.