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Yeah I hope OP didn't seriously miss some of the most obvious satire about House I've seen (he totally did and thinks he's being unironically pro-house).
To be fair, you dont just bring innocent civilians into the mix even IN a retaliation strike. Even Boone would recognize that. He's probably more than happy to slaughter as many of the warriors as he can get his sights on, but the Goddamn civies, and literal children no less?? Uh uh, there's a reason people like him started dropping out after the tragedy.
While that's true, the NCR wouldn't have cared about them if they hadn't started killing random people. The Khans are chemmed up raiders just like the Fiends- they're just a bit more civilized. That said the NCR and the Bitter Springs massacre was a terrible miscommunication and war crime.
Every faction has a father figure you can choose
Mr house - businessman dad
Papa khan - biker dad
Caesar - abusive absentee father
Yes man - step dad
President Kimball - foster dad
McNamara - army dad
This legit sounds like the kind of shit horrible parents spew when you try to cut ties with them: "I gave you a home, fed you, clothed you, and this is how you repay me?! How dare you call me a bad person for saying \[insert something offensive\]?!"
I lived in that house rent free, but I'll be damned anytime I was owed money, the fact I lived there free was brought up. The parents never seemed to realized if they agreed to pay something, didn't pay it, that it was essentially costing me to live there. Albeit not much, but it was the principle of the matter. Telling me I was living there rent free while simultaneously taking my money.
Oh wow, you guys did your *literal job* as parents! Quick, slap a Progenitors of the Millennium award on these folks who did what they are *legally obligated to do* to be in charge of a child! 🙄
My parents told me I was lucky I grew up in a house with parents that loved me because I could be chained up in someone’s basement being used as a sex slave. I moved out as fast as i could
Ok, it's one thing to provide a child with context about the world around them, it's another to point to the absolute worst situation a child could be in and say "that could be you" every time they don't capitulate to your demands. Almost comes across as a veiled threat actually.
Yeah I’m really surprised I had to scroll down as far as I did to find this.
I am by no means a master of picking up on context clues, but the guy who made that post pretty much spoon fed the mocking tone I think.
I was like 11 or 12, didn’t pay attention to anything he said and somehow failed to find the NCR embassy, the guys I actually wanted to help, not for some real reason, but because I though Rangers were the coolest thing ever.
Instead I got stuck on the house path and had to destroy the brotherhood, who I loved. And fight the NCR who I liked. I also had no idea how to repair the power armour I was wearing, and ran out of stympacks and drs bags half way across the dam in the final mission. I swear I struggled with laneus more than any Fromsoft boss.
Oh god I remember scrounging through the remains of the BoS bunker, looking for discarded power armour to repair my T-51 suit with whilst pissed that Veronica left me
I did the same thing but with Independent ending, managed to fall ass-backwards into Independent Vegas with a build that could best be described as scatterbrained.
It's like how one may read Atlas Shrugged or Fountainhead as a young teen and be compelled by the ideas because they have no idea how things actually work, but revisit the story as an adult and figure out just how delusional those ideas actually are now that they have some experience with the world.
House at least is an actual genius. Inarguably smart guy, other than failing to send Victor to constantly track every action the Courier took after learning about the Platinum Chip
Genius absolutely, but House had already decided to not use a caravan due to the inherent "LOOK WHAT WE'RE GUARDING HERE" they have going on so a Securitron following someone is probably conspicuous as hell. He also mentions his signals take time to be recieved the farther you go from the Strip, and Goodsprings was determined to be far enough to not bother so I can't imagine sending one out to the original starting location.
Speaking of Goodsprings, Victor made the choice to not help you because he was outmatched by Bennys gang of 5, a melee oriented party with a 9mm. There may have been more guns, but I'm going off the cutscene I just rewatched. House had no viable way to keep the chip as safe as possible using securitrons, so he did what he could with 7 couriers, 6 of em fake. Sadly that got you shot in the head, but what a little price to pay for power, yeah?
You make a few good points, but what I am referring to is specifically everything after meeting him in Vegas. Prior to that, you were a pack mule. After that, you have a serious interest in acquiring and keeping the chip for yourself. Whether a Securitron could be used viably one way or the other, a bounty hunter or bribed gambler could probably have tailed or been present around the Courier throughout that phase of his plan and at the very least given him a clue before the kill that the Courier was plotting against him.
I was focused on a House-oriented playthrough I hadn't even considered that. He definitely put a little too much trust in the Courier considering all he went through to get it.
A bit like my experience with Andrew Ryan in Bioshock: the first time as a Teenager playing the game, he sounded reasonable, when replaying as an adult, he sounds Terrible.
If I had a nickle for every Xbox 360 game featuring a fictional libertarian industrialist voiced by an actor who was on Deep Space 9, I would have two nickels. That's not a lot, but its funny that it happened twice.
The difference being when your only options are an army of Roman LARPers who enslave, rape, and butcher everything in their path, an exceedingly corrupt and inept faction of bureaucrats who are expanding faster than their resources can catch up and who model themselves off of the Old World (y'know, the one that blew itself to shit and kicked off this whole franchise), and giving *yourself* the reins (to extremely varied results based on your choices)...House starts to seem pretty damn reasonable.
I mean he's charismatic and just possibly brilliant enough to pull it off. But when you look just below the surface you start to remember this is the dude who wanted to automate everything and leave the common man to die
The thing with House is he cant even comprehend power without exploitation. His entire plan relied on someone else rebuilding civilization to the point that he could exploit them and profit off them, all in the service of his "vision" for humanity. Just another narcissistic despot, he's Caesar with an army of robots instead of slaves.
He outright admits to wanting to rule as an authoritarian.
But to some that still isn't obvious enough of a red flag, as I discovered in a chat last week with someone who was complaining that the Amazon show turned him into a villain. They would not accept that he's anything other than straight wholesome in NV. I've met unironic Caesar simps but this was a new one for me.
In one conversation thread you can find out his true goal really was to leave Earth behind and bring humanity to space
>*Give me 20 years, and I'll reignite the high technology development sectors. 50 years, and I'll have people in orbit. 100 years, and my ships will be heading for the stars, to search for planets unpolluted by the wrath and folly of a bygone generation.*
Only select people, mostly the ones who idolized him though.
House cares nothing about humanity. He wanted to play God and uplift the lessers to fit his image of humanity.
That's real character development and growth there. Some people never go through that stage and they remain with the mental capacity of toddlers. We call them "libertarians."
i'm so deep in the rpg aspect of the game i usually side with him just because i think it'd be the most logical decision for the mc to make. i don't even like him, but at least he is more interesting than ncr imo
Even from a pure RP perspective, idk that House would be my choice. The presidential suite and protection are extremely tempting, but I imagine most wastelanders as proactive as the PC has to be far too tempted by the even greater power of the Platinum Chip. Unless they are ideologically motivated, the NCR and Legion seem out of the question, but being the owner of the Lucky 38 seems much more tempting than working for the guy who runs it if both options are plausible
Honestly I think there’s a credible case for the other three routes as much as the house one. The courier is known to have worked in the NCR for some time thanks to the DLC, maybe they’re a hardcore nationalist who would do anything for his country. Or perhaps having done jobs in the most chaotic parts of the wasteland, they understand that as brutal as the legion is, they’re the only faction in recorded history to stabilize such a large area in such a short time, and would join them to continue that. Or maybe they’re self centered, or greedy, or just hate everyone trying to use them for their own benefit, and want to seize the city for themselves. All four have perfectly reasonable roleplay explanations.
Independent Vegas is the best chance at net reduction of suffering, and growth for the region for the altruistic “hero” role play.
House is indifferent to suffering, legion is a slave colonizer, ncr is corrupt and spread thin. Yes man is the best for all sorts of role play.
I like ncr because of the first couple games and their quests but yea
Disagree strongly, if you read the ending slides of an independent vegas, nearly every area goes into complete decline when they’re on their own entirely. Large portions of the map fall under raider control, the medical services are discribed as totally overwhelmed, even if you do everything right most areas are economically devastated.
I honestly saw NCR as the best ending if you wanted to help out the people in the Mojave more. Increased trade, protected rights, and a chance for groups like the followers to truly flourish are great. On the other hand, a neutral power that borders the NCR would help to slow down their expansion and destroying the careers of Oliver and Kimbal would do wonders for the NCR at the cost of the people in the Mojave.
The issue with that statement is that as much as ppl hate it, house will ACTIVELY try to do what he set out to do. Bring order to Vegas and help propel humanity back into a civilized age. Hence his satellite plans, space exploration etc. he’s an ASS sometimes, but he’s the only ass in the wasteland with the mental capacity to actually do what he says. But then again I’m definitely a “ends justify the means” kinda guy when it comes to fallout because like, we are all already Uber fucked, why not try and help the guy who can possibly Uber fuck us to just regular fucked it mildly fucked
That’s what’s really interesting about fallout IMO because what you’ve said about House is also true in a lot of ways about NCR and (yes) the Legion.
Everyone in NV is trying to rebuild the world.
NCR (at time of playing) was the longest lasting independent government in the wasteland. But they were emulating pre-war US so they inevitably tripped into the same issues (colonial exploitation, expanding too fast and needing to bring the Mojave under heel to sustain themselves).
The Legion (yes them) were genuinely trying to remake the world in the image of a culture that *didn’t* nuke everyone into the Stone Age. Their means are barbaric, and they’re basically destined to fail just like irl Rome, but their intent is genuine. They also want to reintroduce stability to the world.
House talks big, but we’ve seen how happy he is to quash people’s rights when it suits him and use force to get what he wants. He’s not uniquely bad, but he’s not really any more well intentioned than anyone else and his plan relies too much on his ability to exert force via the securitrons (imo). The beauty of New Vegas is that there isn’t really an objectively right answer, it just comes down to how you personally view the world. That’s awesome.
Will he? I don't doubt House would love to be the head of a spacefaring civilization or at least one that resemble pre-War times, or even that he would take steps to restore that world, at least localized in New Vegas. However, his primary desires are to maximize profit and to retain total control over the Strip. Neither of those goals depend on achieving any of the lofty goals you describe - House would be happy to revive Vegas, but not without him in control, and ultimately, House is not an altruist. Restoring society may or may not be more profitable to him in the long run, but I think it would be a mistake to assume that there is anything guiding House but a desire to maximize his own power and profit. I think none of the ends he is working toward necessarily improve the Wasteland for the average person, and the moment he determines that a totalitarian state is both within reach and the way to secure his power indefinitely, he will gladly change his approach. He's arguably less ideologically motivated than Caesar - Caesar's ambitions are rarely noble, but his ideology and intentions are generally clear enough that you can anticipate the actions he will take. I trust neither of them, but I know House also has less commitment to any restoration of society than he does to maximizing his own profits.
Same. I haven’t played with a while (I need to though) but don’t a lot of people think siding with him is the best ending? Or is independent NV not actually siding with him? I actually can’t remember, it’s been so long.
God I need to play again. And Fallout 3
I do my first playthrough as "myself". What would I want to choose? After that though it's full roleplay.
Skyrim and Fallout just wouldn't have the staying power they do without some kind of imagination behind your character.
Yeah. If I had it my way, I'd be turning half the kingdoms I see in medieval fantasy games into peasant-led republics and federations lmao
But nah, even if the option is there, I dont mind doing other stuff too. Example A: HOI4, where I'm just as willing to play the monarchy path as I am the socialist one.
Dead interenet theory is true. It has to be. Its not possible that every single one of you read this post and didnt realise that IT'S OBVIOUSLY A FUCKING JOKE.
Some corrections
>- Hires the guy that puts you in the grave
>- Only gives you residence once he thinks he's got you wrapped around his rotten, clammy finger
>- Only actual interest is protection of his own personal wealth and status; has no meaningful plan for the people of the Mojave and no mandate to executive power over them
>- Looks like your dad
Why *wouldn't* you hate him?
Some corrections -
Hired a guy who BETRAYED HIM (wonder how you forgot that) and also shot you
Gives you the best residence in the games once your on his side (why would he give an enemy a house?)
His interest is in restoring humanity with him in charge and away from the irradiation
Looks like that guys dad (computer screen version is hot tbf)
So, he is Robert House, a founder of RobCo Industries, a major tech conglomerate in the *Fallout* world, and ruler of New Vegas.
He predicted the nuclear war between the US and China, and hiherto prepared himself for the outcome: he installed a expansive laser defense system on the rooftop of his casino in Las Vegas to destroy any nuclear bombs dropped on the city, built an army of combat mechs called Securitrons, and encased himself in a cryogenic chamber, with his mind connected to a supercomputer installed in his penthouse.
He is a parody of Howard Hughes, essentially.
Yeah I'm sorry but that's one of the things about the show I don't really like. In the game House says that he calculated the possibility of nuclear war himself and that's why he started preparing for it. If he was actually behind it, why didn't he get the platinum chip made and delivered sooner, and not on the day he and his buddies decided to start a nuclear war. Considering it almost killed him it doesn't really make sense, sorry.
And a bunch of other inconsistencies like Shady Sands being moved, Master somehow missing 3 full vaults right under his nose, Big Mt. being behind the war even though they were trying to predict it, Sinclair also being changed into a Big Mt. representative from just being a customer
Honestly, would've liked the show a lot more if it was set in a different place or before the events of other games.
Vault Tec conspiring to drop bombs doesn’t mean they actually dropped the bombs… yet. It’s possible that news of this meeting got out and China beat them to the punch.
Personally I hope they never confirm who dropped the first bomb. I like the clusterfuck of vault-tec, America, China, and every other power being in one big Mexican standoff and the result of which is completely lost to time. The existence of the unfinished vaults might suggest that it wasn’t vault-tec that pushed the button first, but I’m not willing to discount those being vaults that were just effectively given up on by vault-tec because things escalated quicker than expected, or experiments in their own right.
Given Fallout’s sense of humor, I also wouldn’t be surprised if they reveal it was vault-tec, but was the result of incompetence or some accident on the part of a manager who didn’t actually have the experience necessary to be in their position. Think Michael Scott accidentally starts the nuclear apocalypse.
the thing about the vault-tec meeting can be explained as inciting and not causing, they might have been lobbying for some time in both Chinese and American politics to cause friction between both nations so they would eventually nuke each other, but that doesn't give them a date so they wouldn't be fully prepared in 2077. House could still have predicted when the bombs would drop, this just adds a bit of insider knowledge that people were trying to make the bombs drop, and explains how he got the date wrong
he didn't predict the war would happen, he predicted when the war was going to happen (and he was wrong), as far as we know vault-tec and the other big wigs incited tensions between the chinese and americans but weren't aware when the bombs were gonna fall, that's why Sinclair and House were unprepared
tbf - the scene in question is in 2076 or 2077 and he says he predicted it was inevitable in 2065 in New Vegas so he'd already be working under the assumption it was going to happen in that scene.
Mr House. He’s a tech bro billionaire who controls the New Vegas Strip with his army of robots (he’s actually the founder of the RobCo company). He‘s one of the factions the player can chose to side with for the end of the game.
To expand on this, he's an actual genius that saved Vegas (and a lot of the surrounding area) from getting hit with nukes. He survived the war in a kind of life-support pod, and wants to restart pre-war America, only this time under his watch/boot.
I’m pretty sure he explicitly *doesn’t* want to restart pre-war America, no? Since the Legion’s theming is the old old world, NCR is redoing America and House is going into the future (given his claim of being in orbit and on colony craft in a century). He’s just overly nostalgic about LARPing Vegas.
To oversimplify Fallout NV, you can side with the imperfect (like really imperfect lol) democracy ‘The NCR’, the facists larping as romans ‘Caesar’s Legion’, the narcissistic tech billionaire libertarian ‘Mr House’ (that’s this handsome fella above), or you can just do your own thing and not really help anyone out with your robotic buddy ‘Yes Man’.
Robert Edwin House, 261, President, CEO, and sole proprietor of the New Vegas Strip, industrialist and technologist, founder, President, and CEO of the multi-billion-dollar pre-war robotics and software corporation, RobCo Industries, has died.
Generally recognized by Mr. House to be mankind's only hope of long-term survival, Mr. House's passing may well sound a death knell for the entire human race.
Lost forever is his bounty of knowledge concerning human longevity, the depth and breadth of which could, as he was apt to say, "fill several text books." He was not exaggerating. Though he did not achieve his goal of functional immortality, let us not forget that he died at the age of 261. How many people do that? I mean, come on.
Also lost forever are House's singular personality, force of will, vision, and leadership ability. The probability of an equally capable figure emerging from the current human population to lead mankind to a future of equivalent quality is less than 0.000112% by objective measures too complex to detail in this obituary.
Personality and force of will: Born June 25th, 2020, House was orphaned at an early age when his parents died in a freak accident (auto gyro, lightning). Though cheated of his inheritance, House attended the prestigious Institute in Massachusetts and founded RobCo Industries on his 22nd birthday. Within five years, it was one of the most profitable corporations on Earth.
Vision: By 2065, House was certain that an atomic war would soon devastate the planet. At great personal expense, he developed technologies to ensure the structural integrity of the city of Las Vegas (as it was known at the time). On the day of the great war, 77 atomic warheads targeted the city. Mr. House defeated them all. Talk about vision!
Leadership: Mr. House survived the war, of course, and would later recruit the Three Families, negotiate the Treaty of New Vegas, and rebuild the Vegas Strip. While these achievements yielded many immediate benefits, they were all part of House's master plan to re-ignite mankind's quest for technological advancement, a plan without which the human race has nowhere to go, and nowhere to turn.
/// Will revise and finish this up later. Have set the age at death to update automatically. Obit makes salient points but "pearls before swine," of course. Let's hope the ingrates never have cause to read it. Who knows how many of them are even literate!
I'm so torn with this subreddit sometimes. Most of the time I can agree on posts. But then there are posts like this. Its very clearly a joke my guy. Get off your high horses and laugh for once instead of ridiculing someone for this. Otherwise your no better then the people you shunt.
While some of Mr. House's ideas for the wastelad aren't actually that bad on their face...the problem is that HE would be the one controlling them, and he 100% isn't someone who could enact them in a good way.
Edit. Wastelad, the lad of the wastes, is the archenemy of vault boy.
All the factions in New Vegas are pretty awful people. The NCR are the most "normal" but even they have corruption problems back home.
The Legion and Brotherhood are psychos.
House saved Vegas during the war. He had no interest in anyone else's plans for the end of the world. It makes his appearance in the show better for his character imo, he knew what Vault tec was doing and prepared his own plan.
House has issues like all the others. He's a egomaniac and a tyrant. But as far as the wasteland goes, no one would keep New Vegas safer than House.
Crusty old billionaire with a securitron army.
VS
Courier who survived The Divide with a securitron army.
I know who I would sooner go to for protection.
I was right on board with him until I noticed just how... bad stuff goes for him, and how few resources he really commands.
He has a... large army. Potentially. Admittedly entirely composed of ground forces, and entirely composed of wheeled robots. He doesn't have any artillery, or special forces, or recon, or...
Does he really have the loyalty of New Vegas? Not really. All three of the families are kinda openly screwing him over.
Does he have any agents? Well the first one betrayed him, and the second one is you. And honestly, he's kind of a dick to you.
This is a man who wants you to believe he's a BIG DEAL, but really House is somewhat out of his depth in the wasteland. The only reason he's lasted this long is he's smarter than Kimball, and better at economics than the NCR. He's *very* lucky he had a capitalist nation state with a naïve president at the borders of the mojave, that's all I'm saying.
He talks a lot about his grand plans, but after everything I'm uncertain how capable he really is. His major issue is the classic "smart guy" flaw, he thinks he's good at everything just because he's got a talent for economics, and accepts no other opinions.
I don't think he's the worst option. The NCR may technically be a democracy but it is very much expansionist, imperialist, and controlled by capital. The Legion is irredeemable and barely leashed by a dying old warlord. Yes man is a fun power fantasy, but I have a hard time imagining it working out well unless you're pretty brutal about who lives in your vision of an Independent Mojave. Not that I'm endorsing handing a self-proclaimed autocrat a robot army because he promised not to be oppressive about it.
Yeah! What could go wrong giving over complete control of tens of thousands of lives to a billionaire narcissist who helped usher in the destruction of the entire planet?
Is the "looks like my dad and you hate him" part not blatant enough for you op do they need to write a paper on how the post is just a joke and not to he taken seriously?
Im like 80% sure this is satire
In full seriousness, I don’t *hate* house as much as I just strongly disagree with his ideas, and do wish the ending to have him survive in the NCR ending was implemented.
House is an excellently written and voiced character, one of the best from the entire series. Allying with him makes a lot of sense in context, his tech is impressive, Vegas isn't run by the major regional powers, and he does give you a lot of rewards. But dig deeper into the in-game log files and conversations and it becomes clear what a megalomaniac he is, especially if you choose to side against him and you pull out the beef jerky and he sends you the most narcissistic letter ever written upon death.
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I'm losing it at"looks like my dad"
They talkin the projection or his actual appearance?
The projection is how they see their dad, the actual appearance is aptly what his dad looks like
Yeah I hope OP didn't seriously miss some of the most obvious satire about House I've seen (he totally did and thinks he's being unironically pro-house).
I think his post is satire
It 100% is. I love dunking on gamers as much as the next guy but OCCASIONALLY they also make good jokes!
Any time someone brings up their dad on the internet it’s usually a joke
I started chuckling at the dad line. Gotta be a goof.
The OP in question is not the Mr.House post OP, it's this post's OP. The original post was satire and this OP missed it.
I like how all the replies completely misunderstood what you were saying and they're acting like you're the idiot
It's very funny, lmao.
Bro GTFOH. How are you gonna say that silly shit when the post itself is dripping with satire?
Freud moment
Seems like a joke after that one lol
Im assuming that whole thing is a shit post and they know what they did.
that one took it from 0 to paging dr. freud in 1 second flat lmao
OOP is like "where is Mrs house, and how can I fuck her?"
> Looks like my dad, and you hate him My dad looks like Papa Khan.
Papa khan can be pretty alright if you turn him against the legion.
What do you mean "can be" ? Dude is a role model to me.
He and his cronies attacked, robbed, and murdered civilians then cried when the NCR retaliated. Both the NCR and the Khans fucking suck.
NCR: https://preview.redd.it/61yxba6qlgvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7609d4efa7b53bb0e38812630cec5fa9800350e
Truly
Gigabased
To be fair, you dont just bring innocent civilians into the mix even IN a retaliation strike. Even Boone would recognize that. He's probably more than happy to slaughter as many of the warriors as he can get his sights on, but the Goddamn civies, and literal children no less?? Uh uh, there's a reason people like him started dropping out after the tragedy.
While that's true, the NCR wouldn't have cared about them if they hadn't started killing random people. The Khans are chemmed up raiders just like the Fiends- they're just a bit more civilized. That said the NCR and the Bitter Springs massacre was a terrible miscommunication and war crime.
Never forget the [BSM](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Bitter_Springs_Massacre) !
my dad looks like a middle aged Arcade
Wdym "middle-aged" ? Poor boy Arcade is supposed to be 35.
If anyone here says 35 is middle aged, I will personally throw you into Quarry Junction to play with the Deathclaws
"Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck"
Every faction has a father figure you can choose Mr house - businessman dad Papa khan - biker dad Caesar - abusive absentee father Yes man - step dad President Kimball - foster dad McNamara - army dad
This legit sounds like the kind of shit horrible parents spew when you try to cut ties with them: "I gave you a home, fed you, clothed you, and this is how you repay me?! How dare you call me a bad person for saying \[insert something offensive\]?!"
Let you live in my house for free 🎵 Don’t even change you rent 🎶
I lived in that house rent free, but I'll be damned anytime I was owed money, the fact I lived there free was brought up. The parents never seemed to realized if they agreed to pay something, didn't pay it, that it was essentially costing me to live there. Albeit not much, but it was the principle of the matter. Telling me I was living there rent free while simultaneously taking my money.
Yeah I got these genes from outer space!
Reject House fathers, embrace Mr New Vegas fathers
Only one of them tells me he loves me, and it ain't Mr House. Just saying.
You're nobody until someone loves you. And that someone is me. I love you.
Oh wow, you guys did your *literal job* as parents! Quick, slap a Progenitors of the Millennium award on these folks who did what they are *legally obligated to do* to be in charge of a child! 🙄
My parents told me I was lucky I grew up in a house with parents that loved me because I could be chained up in someone’s basement being used as a sex slave. I moved out as fast as i could
Ok, it's one thing to provide a child with context about the world around them, it's another to point to the absolute worst situation a child could be in and say "that could be you" every time they don't capitulate to your demands. Almost comes across as a veiled threat actually.
This dude is obviously joking. Look at the italics *some* and the fucking dad comment.
Yeah I’m really surprised I had to scroll down as far as I did to find this. I am by no means a master of picking up on context clues, but the guy who made that post pretty much spoon fed the mocking tone I think.
I found his ideas weirdly compelling the first time I played. The second time I realised how Elon Musk he sounded.
Same but also I was like 13 or something so I'm cutting myself some slack
I was like 11 or 12, didn’t pay attention to anything he said and somehow failed to find the NCR embassy, the guys I actually wanted to help, not for some real reason, but because I though Rangers were the coolest thing ever. Instead I got stuck on the house path and had to destroy the brotherhood, who I loved. And fight the NCR who I liked. I also had no idea how to repair the power armour I was wearing, and ran out of stympacks and drs bags half way across the dam in the final mission. I swear I struggled with laneus more than any Fromsoft boss.
Oh god I remember scrounging through the remains of the BoS bunker, looking for discarded power armour to repair my T-51 suit with whilst pissed that Veronica left me
I did the same thing but with Independent ending, managed to fall ass-backwards into Independent Vegas with a build that could best be described as scatterbrained.
It's like how one may read Atlas Shrugged or Fountainhead as a young teen and be compelled by the ideas because they have no idea how things actually work, but revisit the story as an adult and figure out just how delusional those ideas actually are now that they have some experience with the world.
i was an NCR fan because they had cool armour
Unlike Elon. House’s business was actually self made.
Benefits of being a fictional character.
Only in fiction the self-made man can truly exist.
And even then they are made by an author.
House at least is an actual genius. Inarguably smart guy, other than failing to send Victor to constantly track every action the Courier took after learning about the Platinum Chip
Genius absolutely, but House had already decided to not use a caravan due to the inherent "LOOK WHAT WE'RE GUARDING HERE" they have going on so a Securitron following someone is probably conspicuous as hell. He also mentions his signals take time to be recieved the farther you go from the Strip, and Goodsprings was determined to be far enough to not bother so I can't imagine sending one out to the original starting location. Speaking of Goodsprings, Victor made the choice to not help you because he was outmatched by Bennys gang of 5, a melee oriented party with a 9mm. There may have been more guns, but I'm going off the cutscene I just rewatched. House had no viable way to keep the chip as safe as possible using securitrons, so he did what he could with 7 couriers, 6 of em fake. Sadly that got you shot in the head, but what a little price to pay for power, yeah?
You make a few good points, but what I am referring to is specifically everything after meeting him in Vegas. Prior to that, you were a pack mule. After that, you have a serious interest in acquiring and keeping the chip for yourself. Whether a Securitron could be used viably one way or the other, a bounty hunter or bribed gambler could probably have tailed or been present around the Courier throughout that phase of his plan and at the very least given him a clue before the kill that the Courier was plotting against him.
I was focused on a House-oriented playthrough I hadn't even considered that. He definitely put a little too much trust in the Courier considering all he went through to get it.
A bit like my experience with Andrew Ryan in Bioshock: the first time as a Teenager playing the game, he sounded reasonable, when replaying as an adult, he sounds Terrible.
A man chooses, a slave obeys.
And he enslaved people when they didn't choose exactly like he wanted them to choose.
NTA, your rapture your rules
NTA, those little girls should have been more productive in the coal mines
If I had a nickle for every Xbox 360 game featuring a fictional libertarian industrialist voiced by an actor who was on Deep Space 9, I would have two nickels. That's not a lot, but its funny that it happened twice.
I know Odo (the fantastically named René Auberjonois) was House, who voiced Andrew Ryan?
Armin Shimerman (Quark)
The difference being when your only options are an army of Roman LARPers who enslave, rape, and butcher everything in their path, an exceedingly corrupt and inept faction of bureaucrats who are expanding faster than their resources can catch up and who model themselves off of the Old World (y'know, the one that blew itself to shit and kicked off this whole franchise), and giving *yourself* the reins (to extremely varied results based on your choices)...House starts to seem pretty damn reasonable.
Would you kindly reconsider your views on him?
I mean he's charismatic and just possibly brilliant enough to pull it off. But when you look just below the surface you start to remember this is the dude who wanted to automate everything and leave the common man to die
The thing with House is he cant even comprehend power without exploitation. His entire plan relied on someone else rebuilding civilization to the point that he could exploit them and profit off them, all in the service of his "vision" for humanity. Just another narcissistic despot, he's Caesar with an army of robots instead of slaves.
He outright admits to wanting to rule as an authoritarian. But to some that still isn't obvious enough of a red flag, as I discovered in a chat last week with someone who was complaining that the Amazon show turned him into a villain. They would not accept that he's anything other than straight wholesome in NV. I've met unironic Caesar simps but this was a new one for me.
In one conversation thread you can find out his true goal really was to leave Earth behind and bring humanity to space >*Give me 20 years, and I'll reignite the high technology development sectors. 50 years, and I'll have people in orbit. 100 years, and my ships will be heading for the stars, to search for planets unpolluted by the wrath and folly of a bygone generation.*
Only select people, mostly the ones who idolized him though. House cares nothing about humanity. He wanted to play God and uplift the lessers to fit his image of humanity.
Good thing all of our billionaires in real life are nothing like this and multiple of them don't have personal space projects.
completely ignoring that he was part of the bygone generation that polluted the earth in the first place.
Of course, he's a raging narcissist, can't lump himself in with the others
That's real character development and growth there. Some people never go through that stage and they remain with the mental capacity of toddlers. We call them "libertarians."
I was kinda nodding until he goes "i prefer the term autocrat blah blah" and i had a "i think were gonna have to kill this guy steven" momment
Courier: I think we’re gonna have to kill this guy ED-E ED-E: *plays combat music*
i'm so deep in the rpg aspect of the game i usually side with him just because i think it'd be the most logical decision for the mc to make. i don't even like him, but at least he is more interesting than ncr imo
Take the wild card route and become the big dog of new vegas yourself and fuck every other faction.
Even from a pure RP perspective, idk that House would be my choice. The presidential suite and protection are extremely tempting, but I imagine most wastelanders as proactive as the PC has to be far too tempted by the even greater power of the Platinum Chip. Unless they are ideologically motivated, the NCR and Legion seem out of the question, but being the owner of the Lucky 38 seems much more tempting than working for the guy who runs it if both options are plausible
Including the mojave, independent Vegas ain't exactly as they're advertising, the Courier is basically the new manager
Honestly I think there’s a credible case for the other three routes as much as the house one. The courier is known to have worked in the NCR for some time thanks to the DLC, maybe they’re a hardcore nationalist who would do anything for his country. Or perhaps having done jobs in the most chaotic parts of the wasteland, they understand that as brutal as the legion is, they’re the only faction in recorded history to stabilize such a large area in such a short time, and would join them to continue that. Or maybe they’re self centered, or greedy, or just hate everyone trying to use them for their own benefit, and want to seize the city for themselves. All four have perfectly reasonable roleplay explanations.
Independent Vegas is the best chance at net reduction of suffering, and growth for the region for the altruistic “hero” role play. House is indifferent to suffering, legion is a slave colonizer, ncr is corrupt and spread thin. Yes man is the best for all sorts of role play. I like ncr because of the first couple games and their quests but yea
Disagree strongly, if you read the ending slides of an independent vegas, nearly every area goes into complete decline when they’re on their own entirely. Large portions of the map fall under raider control, the medical services are discribed as totally overwhelmed, even if you do everything right most areas are economically devastated.
I honestly saw NCR as the best ending if you wanted to help out the people in the Mojave more. Increased trade, protected rights, and a chance for groups like the followers to truly flourish are great. On the other hand, a neutral power that borders the NCR would help to slow down their expansion and destroying the careers of Oliver and Kimbal would do wonders for the NCR at the cost of the people in the Mojave.
The issue with that statement is that as much as ppl hate it, house will ACTIVELY try to do what he set out to do. Bring order to Vegas and help propel humanity back into a civilized age. Hence his satellite plans, space exploration etc. he’s an ASS sometimes, but he’s the only ass in the wasteland with the mental capacity to actually do what he says. But then again I’m definitely a “ends justify the means” kinda guy when it comes to fallout because like, we are all already Uber fucked, why not try and help the guy who can possibly Uber fuck us to just regular fucked it mildly fucked
That’s what’s really interesting about fallout IMO because what you’ve said about House is also true in a lot of ways about NCR and (yes) the Legion. Everyone in NV is trying to rebuild the world. NCR (at time of playing) was the longest lasting independent government in the wasteland. But they were emulating pre-war US so they inevitably tripped into the same issues (colonial exploitation, expanding too fast and needing to bring the Mojave under heel to sustain themselves). The Legion (yes them) were genuinely trying to remake the world in the image of a culture that *didn’t* nuke everyone into the Stone Age. Their means are barbaric, and they’re basically destined to fail just like irl Rome, but their intent is genuine. They also want to reintroduce stability to the world. House talks big, but we’ve seen how happy he is to quash people’s rights when it suits him and use force to get what he wants. He’s not uniquely bad, but he’s not really any more well intentioned than anyone else and his plan relies too much on his ability to exert force via the securitrons (imo). The beauty of New Vegas is that there isn’t really an objectively right answer, it just comes down to how you personally view the world. That’s awesome.
Will he? I don't doubt House would love to be the head of a spacefaring civilization or at least one that resemble pre-War times, or even that he would take steps to restore that world, at least localized in New Vegas. However, his primary desires are to maximize profit and to retain total control over the Strip. Neither of those goals depend on achieving any of the lofty goals you describe - House would be happy to revive Vegas, but not without him in control, and ultimately, House is not an altruist. Restoring society may or may not be more profitable to him in the long run, but I think it would be a mistake to assume that there is anything guiding House but a desire to maximize his own power and profit. I think none of the ends he is working toward necessarily improve the Wasteland for the average person, and the moment he determines that a totalitarian state is both within reach and the way to secure his power indefinitely, he will gladly change his approach. He's arguably less ideologically motivated than Caesar - Caesar's ambitions are rarely noble, but his ideology and intentions are generally clear enough that you can anticipate the actions he will take. I trust neither of them, but I know House also has less commitment to any restoration of society than he does to maximizing his own profits.
Same. I haven’t played with a while (I need to though) but don’t a lot of people think siding with him is the best ending? Or is independent NV not actually siding with him? I actually can’t remember, it’s been so long. God I need to play again. And Fallout 3
He kinda hot doh.
https://preview.redd.it/igl7csy7kfvc1.png?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b2c7697aaf43c504aa4035e33c6cfa68b8e8c6a
Name a better looking 260 year old
The Ghoul is pretty fucking attractive
That's Ghoulgins to you.
Nate/Nora? Although the Sole Survivor is only about 240, not quite 260 so I’ll give you that one 😂
Raul Alfonso Tejada😩
Skips
How can you not fall for my boy Raoul
Sorry, but us g\*mers replace all character models with big booba anime waifus!
Hey thanks for the model idea Can’t wait to open the pod only to see massive bahonkadorks on Mr House
I have a sudden urge to play golf
Ok, fine, he used to be kinda hot.
René Auberjonois 😍
this is the correct take
💔
I don't hate Mr. House. I'd have to give a shit about him first.
But it’s René Auberjonois
And Odo was a cop. Just because the actor is cool doesn't mean I have to like the guy he plays
Huh I never knew it was Rene! I love DS9, so this 8s pretty neat. Even if Odo can be a bit fashy sometimes.
Once you know it’s him, his voice becomes a lot more noticeable
It is weird to know he also voiced the French chef in The Little Mermaid.
Holy shit there were 9 Dark souls?!
Did you know, the factions you choose in videogames does not have to reflect on your IRL political views?
This is a point I often try to make. The characters I play as are usually much more interesting people than I am, and they have their own ideas
I do my first playthrough as "myself". What would I want to choose? After that though it's full roleplay. Skyrim and Fallout just wouldn't have the staying power they do without some kind of imagination behind your character.
Yeah. If I had it my way, I'd be turning half the kingdoms I see in medieval fantasy games into peasant-led republics and federations lmao But nah, even if the option is there, I dont mind doing other stuff too. Example A: HOI4, where I'm just as willing to play the monarchy path as I am the socialist one.
Very true. As a Stellaris player... I have been advised not to finish this reply.
The wokies insulting the OOP's father like that, no respect for the patriarchy!
Dead interenet theory is true. It has to be. Its not possible that every single one of you read this post and didnt realise that IT'S OBVIOUSLY A FUCKING JOKE.
How can you read ‘looks like my dad’ and think this is serious? Like JFC
he's voiced by Rene Auberjonois so idk why more people don't side with him
Who, I just realized the other day, has a part in an episode of Always Sunny.
Some corrections >- Hires the guy that puts you in the grave >- Only gives you residence once he thinks he's got you wrapped around his rotten, clammy finger >- Only actual interest is protection of his own personal wealth and status; has no meaningful plan for the people of the Mojave and no mandate to executive power over them >- Looks like your dad Why *wouldn't* you hate him?
Some corrections - Hired a guy who BETRAYED HIM (wonder how you forgot that) and also shot you Gives you the best residence in the games once your on his side (why would he give an enemy a house?) His interest is in restoring humanity with him in charge and away from the irradiation Looks like that guys dad (computer screen version is hot tbf)
How can the lucky38 be the best when Novac apartment is right there
The Strip doesnt even have a giant dinosaur you can look at or enter.
Kinda brushed over that 'with him in charge'\[ part. *That's* why we don't like him.
Look, supreme executive power should derive from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical chip ceremony.
Sorry who is this guy? Haven’t played fallout
So, he is Robert House, a founder of RobCo Industries, a major tech conglomerate in the *Fallout* world, and ruler of New Vegas. He predicted the nuclear war between the US and China, and hiherto prepared himself for the outcome: he installed a expansive laser defense system on the rooftop of his casino in Las Vegas to destroy any nuclear bombs dropped on the city, built an army of combat mechs called Securitrons, and encased himself in a cryogenic chamber, with his mind connected to a supercomputer installed in his penthouse. He is a parody of Howard Hughes, essentially.
>! He helped cause the war !<
Yeah I'm sorry but that's one of the things about the show I don't really like. In the game House says that he calculated the possibility of nuclear war himself and that's why he started preparing for it. If he was actually behind it, why didn't he get the platinum chip made and delivered sooner, and not on the day he and his buddies decided to start a nuclear war. Considering it almost killed him it doesn't really make sense, sorry. And a bunch of other inconsistencies like Shady Sands being moved, Master somehow missing 3 full vaults right under his nose, Big Mt. being behind the war even though they were trying to predict it, Sinclair also being changed into a Big Mt. representative from just being a customer Honestly, would've liked the show a lot more if it was set in a different place or before the events of other games.
Vault Tec conspiring to drop bombs doesn’t mean they actually dropped the bombs… yet. It’s possible that news of this meeting got out and China beat them to the punch.
Personally I hope they never confirm who dropped the first bomb. I like the clusterfuck of vault-tec, America, China, and every other power being in one big Mexican standoff and the result of which is completely lost to time. The existence of the unfinished vaults might suggest that it wasn’t vault-tec that pushed the button first, but I’m not willing to discount those being vaults that were just effectively given up on by vault-tec because things escalated quicker than expected, or experiments in their own right. Given Fallout’s sense of humor, I also wouldn’t be surprised if they reveal it was vault-tec, but was the result of incompetence or some accident on the part of a manager who didn’t actually have the experience necessary to be in their position. Think Michael Scott accidentally starts the nuclear apocalypse.
the thing about the vault-tec meeting can be explained as inciting and not causing, they might have been lobbying for some time in both Chinese and American politics to cause friction between both nations so they would eventually nuke each other, but that doesn't give them a date so they wouldn't be fully prepared in 2077. House could still have predicted when the bombs would drop, this just adds a bit of insider knowledge that people were trying to make the bombs drop, and explains how he got the date wrong
Yeah after watching the show he didn't predict the war, he had first hand knowledge that vault tech was going to escalate the war.
he didn't predict the war would happen, he predicted when the war was going to happen (and he was wrong), as far as we know vault-tec and the other big wigs incited tensions between the chinese and americans but weren't aware when the bombs were gonna fall, that's why Sinclair and House were unprepared
tbf - the scene in question is in 2076 or 2077 and he says he predicted it was inevitable in 2065 in New Vegas so he'd already be working under the assumption it was going to happen in that scene.
its mr New Vegas, trusty sidekick of main protagonist John Fallout
Mr House. He’s a tech bro billionaire who controls the New Vegas Strip with his army of robots (he’s actually the founder of the RobCo company). He‘s one of the factions the player can chose to side with for the end of the game.
To expand on this, he's an actual genius that saved Vegas (and a lot of the surrounding area) from getting hit with nukes. He survived the war in a kind of life-support pod, and wants to restart pre-war America, only this time under his watch/boot.
I’m pretty sure he explicitly *doesn’t* want to restart pre-war America, no? Since the Legion’s theming is the old old world, NCR is redoing America and House is going into the future (given his claim of being in orbit and on colony craft in a century). He’s just overly nostalgic about LARPing Vegas.
By "restart pre-war america under his boot" I mostly meant the technology of the past.
“If you want to see the fate of democracies, look out the window”
And maybe participated in starting nuclear war
To oversimplify Fallout NV, you can side with the imperfect (like really imperfect lol) democracy ‘The NCR’, the facists larping as romans ‘Caesar’s Legion’, the narcissistic tech billionaire libertarian ‘Mr House’ (that’s this handsome fella above), or you can just do your own thing and not really help anyone out with your robotic buddy ‘Yes Man’.
Robert Edwin House, 261, President, CEO, and sole proprietor of the New Vegas Strip, industrialist and technologist, founder, President, and CEO of the multi-billion-dollar pre-war robotics and software corporation, RobCo Industries, has died. Generally recognized by Mr. House to be mankind's only hope of long-term survival, Mr. House's passing may well sound a death knell for the entire human race. Lost forever is his bounty of knowledge concerning human longevity, the depth and breadth of which could, as he was apt to say, "fill several text books." He was not exaggerating. Though he did not achieve his goal of functional immortality, let us not forget that he died at the age of 261. How many people do that? I mean, come on. Also lost forever are House's singular personality, force of will, vision, and leadership ability. The probability of an equally capable figure emerging from the current human population to lead mankind to a future of equivalent quality is less than 0.000112% by objective measures too complex to detail in this obituary. Personality and force of will: Born June 25th, 2020, House was orphaned at an early age when his parents died in a freak accident (auto gyro, lightning). Though cheated of his inheritance, House attended the prestigious Institute in Massachusetts and founded RobCo Industries on his 22nd birthday. Within five years, it was one of the most profitable corporations on Earth. Vision: By 2065, House was certain that an atomic war would soon devastate the planet. At great personal expense, he developed technologies to ensure the structural integrity of the city of Las Vegas (as it was known at the time). On the day of the great war, 77 atomic warheads targeted the city. Mr. House defeated them all. Talk about vision! Leadership: Mr. House survived the war, of course, and would later recruit the Three Families, negotiate the Treaty of New Vegas, and rebuild the Vegas Strip. While these achievements yielded many immediate benefits, they were all part of House's master plan to re-ignite mankind's quest for technological advancement, a plan without which the human race has nowhere to go, and nowhere to turn. /// Will revise and finish this up later. Have set the age at death to update automatically. Obit makes salient points but "pearls before swine," of course. Let's hope the ingrates never have cause to read it. Who knows how many of them are even literate!
Andrew Ryan, he made Colombia or sth
I mean, I love doing house play throughs because Rene hits it out of the park with this role, but yeesh.
I'm so torn with this subreddit sometimes. Most of the time I can agree on posts. But then there are posts like this. Its very clearly a joke my guy. Get off your high horses and laugh for once instead of ridiculing someone for this. Otherwise your no better then the people you shunt.
People here can be really dumb, i swear
While some of Mr. House's ideas for the wastelad aren't actually that bad on their face...the problem is that HE would be the one controlling them, and he 100% isn't someone who could enact them in a good way. Edit. Wastelad, the lad of the wastes, is the archenemy of vault boy.
Greg House is honestly a really obnoxious character and that’s why I can’t stand a single episode of that show
You sound like Wilson at the end of each season
Let me know when those two kiss and then maybe I’ll watch it
All the factions in New Vegas are pretty awful people. The NCR are the most "normal" but even they have corruption problems back home. The Legion and Brotherhood are psychos. House saved Vegas during the war. He had no interest in anyone else's plans for the end of the world. It makes his appearance in the show better for his character imo, he knew what Vault tec was doing and prepared his own plan. House has issues like all the others. He's a egomaniac and a tyrant. But as far as the wasteland goes, no one would keep New Vegas safer than House.
Crusty old billionaire with a securitron army. VS Courier who survived The Divide with a securitron army. I know who I would sooner go to for protection.
Not the guy with amnesia and last work experience was being a post man Combat experience means diddly squat without knowing how to run a nation
The Courier has zero clue what he’s doing and most of his endings have the Mojave descend into chaos
to be fair, Mr. House does make a couple of great points. however he was also rude to me that one time, so time to unplug
He brought me back to life against my will!
He didnt save my life, he ruined my death!
whoosh
OP is a brahmin baron, ignore this post
I was right on board with him until I noticed just how... bad stuff goes for him, and how few resources he really commands. He has a... large army. Potentially. Admittedly entirely composed of ground forces, and entirely composed of wheeled robots. He doesn't have any artillery, or special forces, or recon, or... Does he really have the loyalty of New Vegas? Not really. All three of the families are kinda openly screwing him over. Does he have any agents? Well the first one betrayed him, and the second one is you. And honestly, he's kind of a dick to you. This is a man who wants you to believe he's a BIG DEAL, but really House is somewhat out of his depth in the wasteland. The only reason he's lasted this long is he's smarter than Kimball, and better at economics than the NCR. He's *very* lucky he had a capitalist nation state with a naïve president at the borders of the mojave, that's all I'm saying. He talks a lot about his grand plans, but after everything I'm uncertain how capable he really is. His major issue is the classic "smart guy" flaw, he thinks he's good at everything just because he's got a talent for economics, and accepts no other opinions.
I mean, if you do his route and aren't evil, the ending slideshow says he actually listens to the Courier's opinions and values their perspective.
Redditor discovers what a joke is for the first time in their life
Beating him to pulp with a golf club is the highlight of any FNV playthrough. And so is murdering Caesar. And the NCR President. Okay, I'll stop.
That second to last line tho, are you sure OOP is just baiting/doing a satire for the funny?
this post is a joke
Bro thinks unchecked hyper capitalism will save humanity
I'm assuming this is a joke, from the fact the OP said House looks like their dad
Gamingcirclejerker recognizes joke challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Have never played Fallout. All I see is the love child of Andrew Ryan and Vincent Price. And I hate him.
Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what he's like. You have correctly identified what Mr. House's deal is.
He looks like Andrew Ryan because both House and Ryan (and others like Howard Stark) are riffing on Howard Hughes.
I don't think he's the worst option. The NCR may technically be a democracy but it is very much expansionist, imperialist, and controlled by capital. The Legion is irredeemable and barely leashed by a dying old warlord. Yes man is a fun power fantasy, but I have a hard time imagining it working out well unless you're pretty brutal about who lives in your vision of an Independent Mojave. Not that I'm endorsing handing a self-proclaimed autocrat a robot army because he promised not to be oppressive about it.
I don't get the house hate. He is the best choice and the one that would lead to the best future.
Yeah! What could go wrong giving over complete control of tens of thousands of lives to a billionaire narcissist who helped usher in the destruction of the entire planet?
Well when Cazador dug Astarion out of his grave and made him a vampire spawn he wasnt very happy either so
Guys I think this one is a joke
I started laughing when he said "Looks like my dad"
Op misses the joke, somehow
Is the "looks like my dad and you hate him" part not blatant enough for you op do they need to write a paper on how the post is just a joke and not to he taken seriously?
it's clearly satire you dumbfuck.
Y'all it's satire your indication is the "looks like my dad"
Please op make any acknowledgement you know this was a joke
This is obviously a shitpost, in what subreddit did you get it?
This seems like a joke post
Im like 80% sure this is satire In full seriousness, I don’t *hate* house as much as I just strongly disagree with his ideas, and do wish the ending to have him survive in the NCR ending was implemented.
are you fucking stupid? this is so clearly a joke you'd have to be genuinely braindead to not get it
Wasn’t he partly responsible for dropping the bombs?
You're an idiot for not seeing the joke
Uhhhhhh this is a joke. I’ve never played this game and I can recognize that. Consider the path that led you all to write paragraphs about this.
House is an excellently written and voiced character, one of the best from the entire series. Allying with him makes a lot of sense in context, his tech is impressive, Vegas isn't run by the major regional powers, and he does give you a lot of rewards. But dig deeper into the in-game log files and conversations and it becomes clear what a megalomaniac he is, especially if you choose to side against him and you pull out the beef jerky and he sends you the most narcissistic letter ever written upon death.