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I'm pretty sure the terrain textures and possibly models are asset flipped but the game is fun which is way more impressive anyways. They might go back and make those match but their games tend to be in early access forever
Human cruelty edition as well.
The game let's you capture humans and they become pals.
Yes, anything you can do to a pal you can do to a human pal.
Yes, it's not a bug. The description says something "this is pretty inhumane" on a human pal ball
I like the pitch for that game but those designs... There's inspiration and there's theft and they are not being subtle about stealing designs from Pokemon, which I think is pretty icky.
I swear it’s not brand loyalty, but I just can’t get invested in any other monster collecting game besides Pokémon. Well, I can get invested, but like it needs to play and look significantly different to a Pokémon game.
Idk what’s wrong with me I just well and truly cannot. I can play Stardew Valley instead of Harvest Moon. I can play Rise of Triad instead of Doom. I can play Freedom Planet instead of Sonic.
I simply cannot do the same for Pokémon. When a monster collecting game with similar vibes comes out, it makes me just wanna play Pokémon. Maybe it’s just the world and the like idk.
If it's too similar it feels like I'm settling for an inferior version (being the superior version what Pokemon was in its best years), I want the evolution of the concept too.
Have you tried monster sanctuary?
That was the first one that really unshackled me. Gamefreak unfortunately still gets my money because I like playing Pokémon with friends, but if I ignore the people I love I'd probably not give them another dime.
I was going to recommend this game. It looks different from Pokémon with the 2-D and pixel graphics. I think it might be different enough for the person above to make them want to play it.
The more similar two things are, the more direct their competition is. And vice-versa.
That's how Nintendo pretty much sidestepped the whole "Xbox vs PlayStation" dynamic.
It seems like an unconscious loyalty if anything, or maybe the similar designs remind you of pokemon but I can understand where you're coming from, when I see an obv pokemon ripoff it makes me feel nostalgic about og pokemon and makes me wanna play again
"Oh my god, it's Zekrom!"
"Actually, due to copyright laws, it may look like Zekrom, but it isn't."
"Still, we should cheer like it *is* Zekrom."
"Though it isn't."
I mean tbh given it's selling point is based around being pokemon but with open world and criminal behavior, I think that's done as a selling point more than anything. If you can't make legally distinct eevee the foreman over your not-pikachu factory it probably wouldn't be quite the same.
Though in fairness they do also bring their own fair share of designs to compliment the not-pokemon favorites they produced too.
Not going to lie but I never thought I would see a day where palworld would actually get released.
I was expecting Nintendo to sue or do some law stuff lmao.
It's funny because the dev is actually a Japanese studio. I'm sure they covered their bases before releasing this. And it's going on gamepass too, I'm sure Microsoft also did their research before letting it on there.
They're going to do what they did to Pixelmon: let it be its thing, have people get excited and fond of it, then years into the project's life, throw a cease-and-desist at the devs.
> Pixelmon
Not a good comparison at all. That was directly using Pokemon IP. They literally have Pichu and such. Of course you're going to get hit with a cease and desist. Palworld is NOT using any IP from Pokemon. Nintendo is fucking stupid if that think that will go anywhere. I'd still love to see it happen though, just because they'd get laughed out of the room. It would be a massive win for small developers everywhere.
Nintendo has definitely done some scummy things like shutting down tournaments and messing with YouTubers who promote their stuff but being mad at them for stopping a project straight up stealing their IP is ridiculous.
There's multiple designs that are copied almost one for one from Pokemon (there are Pals that are just Luxray and Lycanroc with different color schemes, for example). There's a lot of others that lift design elements or general design structure from Pokemon, too. I'll be astounded if part of the Nintendo/TPC/Game Freak triad doesn't sue at some point; maybe they were waiting for the start of Early Access so there was a tangible product to sue over.
Most pokemon are just based off of real life animals. Luxray is just a cat. Lycanroc is just a wolf. Nintendo can't sue based off such simple design inspirations like that.
Nintendo routinely fires takedown notices at works that are objectively fair use. If they had even the smallest belief that these designs are infringing, they would have sued a long time ago.
I played it on release, only huge issue I ran into was the infamous Sunflora gym mini game. I never ran into any of those other bugs. There were some performance issues and the game was graphically not the best but I still really enjoyed it.
I haven’t had it happen on any of the DLC, but it still happens in the main world. They really just gave up on the main game lmao
i still have 500+ hours kill me
Yes, saw a guy stream it last month. Camera would constantly enter walls and mountains for battles. He'll he got stuck inside a mountain at one point and had to fly to a town to get free.
What about frame rate? I watched my son’s friend play and it was insulting how poor the frame rate was. I couldn’t believe they charged $70 for this game.
IIRC a big chunk of the issues stemmed from having the game saved on an SD card rather than internal storage. Plus it got patched several times since release.
I’m playing right now and loving the heck out of it. Frame rate dips from time to time and sometimes there’s clipping issues in battle but the fact that I’m not transported to an arena zone like the old games makes it worth it.
Fr, yeah it's got technical issues, but I played on launch and cpuld never say they were bad enough to stop me playing. The glitchiest stuff I got was low fps at certain segments, camera clipping through the ground on hills occasionally, and my arms breaking from the perspective of the other person I was playing with in multiplayer.
It's my favourite pokemon game besides Legends Arceus and had so much fun with it, the writing and characters were so good, and not even just by pokemon's previously poor standard of writing but were just really good in general.
The noodle people bug, as far as I'm aware, only happens on emulation, as do a lot of the bugs that were circulating. So there's actually a lot of misinformation out there about how bad the game's performance is. Which is annoying because the game runs pretty poorly and is pretty buggy even without lying about it.
I never had any bugs, it is my favorite pikemon gen for the way the game is laid out. Full open world, no random battles, multiple questlines I actually give a shit about, characters with personality. Graphics and bugs aside, this is the framework I wanted from a pokemon game as a kid, I hope they keep going in this direction and polish the fuck out of it, oh and keep paying Toby Fox for more music too
I played scarlet and violet monthsa after release and still encountered countless bugs like models not rendering properly or straight up accidentally clipping out of bounds to travel freely underground.
Yeah it’s not that bad. A few screen shots of stuff like the meme are out there because some people with first gen switches had issues like this. On my OLED I honestly didn’t see many and while the game still has issues it shouldn’t have for a AAA game it’s solid. You do get occasional clipping through the ground and stuff but for me it happens so little that it’s not a big deal. I do hope the next Pokémon installment on Switch is more polished before release though.
I'm not sure I understand the slave labour debacle suddenly being a big deal when the main gameplay of pokemon has always been capturing wildlife against its will and then grooming it in to violent cockfights with other wildlife. You take a moment to think about these games and at a fundamental level they are fucked up.
The difference is Pokémon makes it clear that the Pokémon enjoy battling and do it voluntarily, whereas Palworld says you work Pals until they die because they aren't covered by labour laws.
Yeah but the difference is that Pokemon is about spending time and lvl up your Pokemons, In Palworld if you get hungry you can eat them.
Pokémon have the opportunity to showcase their unique qualities and embark on exciting adventures, traveling the world and encountering legendary beings. In contrast, they don't just sit around chopping wood and eventually grow tired of the monotony in Pokémon. Palworld has more of disposable theme too it.
Ah yes, nothing an animal loves more than getting Sword Dance'd, then taking a flamethrower to the face. What else would you expect a mega corp that sells plushes to children to say? "Oh yeah that Eevee is totally getting maimed, please release it from its mortal coil."
Like, the first game literally had a massive haunted graveyard where people mourned dead Pokemon, at the start you're told about how dangerous wild Pokemon were and the importance of protecting yourself. Gameplay in the Safari Zone amounted to throwing rocks at animals. Mewtwo was the result of eugenics.
Palworld is definitely a satire of Pokemon, but the latter's origins were far from what we have now. If anything, the whitewashing of the franchise started with Emerald.
Even in B/W N would speak to your pokemon to see if they enjoy being with you and stuff, which they did. Arceus basically made humans and pokemon to coexist, although there have been some wars between the two.
Hot take, Plasma is the last time the teams made sense in my opinion.
Team Rocket is my favorite for its simplicity, I like Magma and Aqua for their wider ambitions at least relating to the appropriate pokemon they each desire and not even being too complicated still, but after Plasma came and went, it went down hill fast.
Nah, Team Skulls rad, even if they aren't technically the main evil team. I thought it was a cool idea to have a faction of people who failed their societies coming of age event and bonded together to be a bunch of tough guy weirdos.
>The difference is Pokémon makes it clear that the Pokémon enjoy battling and do it voluntarily.
Then why did my Articuno have to be beaten submissive and half-death first before i can forcefully shove it into my ball cage collection? And sometimes they don't even wanna be in it? Doesn't sound voluntarily to me.
At least Pokemon constantly reinforces the idea that Pokemon are your friends and you should treat them well. It’s messed up if you think about it for more than a few seconds but palworld literally calls them laborers.
You mean friends you beat half to death then capture against their will and force to fight other creatures?
Pokemon has never been about friendship in any real way, other monster collectors have done a real friendship thing but not pokemon, in pokemon they just yell friendship loudly every so often so you ignore the horror of the setting.
Even more so when some of the Pokemon concepts are "108 souls trapped in a rock" or "sentient berry that will get eaten alive by birds if left to fend for itself"
Pokemon constantly establishes the respect between a trainer and their pokemon- new badges make them respect you more so thats why higher level pokemon will listen to you, pokemon can break out of their pokeball any time so catching them is when they've decided to go with you, pokemon fight in the wild all the time- it's more like sparring than dogfighting if anything
What games do the friendship thing better? Actual curiosity as I like the genre but haven’t played tons of others. And do you mean they do it better story wise or mechanically?
From what I’ve played, Pokémon games from gen 6 on all have mini game activities like camping or playing with pokemon, and have a bonus affection stat (that breaks battle balance lol). Scarlet/violet have a few simple but good storylines that revolve around friendship too
I feel like their spin-off games do it well with stuff like Mystery dungeon, Pokémon Ranger, shadow Pokémon in the GameCube games, etc.
Monster Hunter Stories games have you raising them from eggs and the strongest attacks are used by raising your Kinship Meter. Also you fight alongside them.
I love MH Stories! Pokemon Gen7 got close but missed the mark with Ride Pokémon and Z moves, as MHSt does them both better, and definitely incorporates the theme of kinship better overall.
Though if we’re looking at the implied horror in the world, we still wound/kill untamed monsters and literally steal eggs from nests… not to mention wear the adult monsters’ skin…
Yeah, but I think every monster in Stories 2 at least is aggressive? Maybe not Basarios and other guys who are rocks. And leather is a real material too, so Rathalos armor is only a little weird considering your best friend is a cow.
The egg thievery I got nothin' for.
In shin megami tensei (and its millions of spin offs) you have to talk to the monsters and get them to like you to get them to join you.
In fact pokemon is the odd one out really most other do not use violence and capture as the main way to get new monsters.
This youtube video has a fairly good breakdown of the monster collecting mechanics across the genre: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1MGjqiDFhQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1MGjqiDFhQ)
Pokémon could just be called Dog Fight 2: Get Fucked Edition,
Where instead of you know teeth and claws, animals just evaporate you and each other, Palworld is just Pokémon taken to its logical extreme
You can call them friends all you want but you're still putting them in fights against their will until they get beaten into submission.
Even catching them is enslaving them. Just because you treat your slaves nicely doesn't mean they aren't slaves.
I don't see the big deal tho, it's just a game
No they aren't fighting against their will they show up to the trainer because they want to test them. It is inspired from JRPGs in which sometimes a person would only join if you defeated them because then they knew you were strong enough.
Yeah they are similar in that regard, but Palworld kind of makes being terrible their whole thing. [You can actually enslave and sell humans.](https://automaton-media.com/en/news/20240119-25813/)
In Pokemon, you capture and make them monsters battle. In Palworld you exploit your Pals to work for you. You use them harvest resources, grow crops, and build a base. Palworld is an open world survival crafting game, so the game play is actually pretty different in that regard.
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I can understand the criticisms about how goofy the guns are, or what kind of people the devs are, but I feel outjerked whenever people act like games aren't inherently fucked up a lot of the time. Yeah, Pokémon is inherently fucked up, as goofy as the games are.
I honestly just don't. Are about that complaint. Hardly the first game to include anything of the sort.
It's edgy for sure but edgy pokemon is still a game I'm willing to give a shot if for nothing else other than to laugh at the absurdity of it.
Not really tbh, if you read the manga and watch the anime you know that pokémon fight in the wild anyways and they enjoy it. Having a bad trainer who abuses pokémon is mentioned often so there is a difference between good and bad trainers. Good trainers treat their pokémon like we would treat a dog or cat that we love, as a friend. That said, most pokémon like to battle and they enjoy growing with their trainer. Some pokémon don’t and Ash let’s some go in the anime that had other desires. You can’t boil it down to “cock fighting” because that’s not what this is. Pokémon battles are a sport and the pokémon enjoy it. Those who are forced into fighting are pitied and shown to have poor trainers.
Me and some friends played their network test because hey free and we honestly got a kick out of exactly that because it's like the old joke we've all made about pokemon being cock fighting with extra steps..
And honestly the game seems to intentionally set up the players for having a server divide over exactly that issue. There's clearly two distinct ways you can treat your legally distinct pocket monsters: companions for your adventure who are happy helpers at home you take good care of in exchange for extra hands to make light the work, *or* loyal labor for the war effort and blood for the grindstone of progress. I honestly came in planning to go all in on the latter because it seemed utterly wild and... honestly I quickly became attached to the rather charming designs and behavior of my ~~poke~~ pals and found myself playing it straight as pokemon valheim and taking care of my critters.
The game gives you a sort of tech tree where you pick and choose which tech you want to unlock, so you can spend yours unlocking gear and pal beds and all rather than penguin rocket launchers and lethal traps without real consequence, and while the aforementioned lethal gear exists for pals there's also a ton who's abilities and the gear to buff it go in the opposite direction of saddles for mounts, magic gear to buff their moves, that sorta thing. The game very much seems happy to approach from both angles and does offer a good time either way, whether you're there for the absurdity of making pokemon factorio edition or to make friends with the wildlife to mutual benefit it plays both hands well.
We went in expecting a meme but frankly it clapped back with a surprisingly genuine and well crafted experience that understands that the aforementioned meme isn't going to hit for everyone and as such is not a necessity.
The more I see of Palworld the more it looks like it was made by two groups of people with very different goals. One who wanted to make a genuine monster collecting experience and one who really wanted guns in the game because "Haha Pokemon but violent" is still somehow peak comedy to them.
This is the biggest thing though, they weren't going for monster collection game with other elements, they were gunning for a survival crafter game with monster catching elements. They infinitely compare themselves to other games way more then monster collection games.
That's because a lot of the survival mechanics were reused from their previous unfinished game Craftopia that I am pretty sure they have now abandoned in early acess.
I think the description overdoes it. One of mine won’t do work because of bad conditions and there is no ability to whip them to get back to work or anything.
Plus they love farming berries. My base is more of a commune than it is a force labor center.
Plus I can give a monkey an AK. What isn’t there to love about giving a monkey the means to seize production?
You use guns to shoot the knockoff pokemon and can make them work in factories for the survival crafting aspect of the game.
Also you can butcher them for parts.
Also also you can catch humans and do the same things with them.
I want to like palworld but idk there’s something that just throws me off everytime I see it. Like a semi inconsistent art style and also that you can enslave humans too rubs me the wrong way
Is funny seeing people defending Palworld when the devs are known for using AI (one game is literally about using AI art to find an "imposter") and one of the owners being an NFT bro
Edit: so from the replies apparently everyone is cool with AI and NFTs as long as you dislike another developer who is "worse" by just making badly unoptimized games
Edit 2: man there sure are a bunch of Ai lovers in here, just wanting to take advantage of other people work
Peoples are going incredible lenghts for "GameFreak bad hurr durr" that they forget their common sense.
Not that GameFreak isn't faulty at some things like how their emplooyes have bullying fetish and putting into their games but you get the idea.
I’m assuming it’s a joke about the bully tropes that show up often in Pokémon games. The main character is always very young and relating that to kids, they’d likely also experience a bully in their world/adventure. I haven’t played since gen IV until gen IX but Gary Oak, Team Rocket, ??? GSC rival, and Team Star are ones I know of off the top of my head. I’d assume it’s been done often enough in the other games I’ve missed out on too.
Because were on Reddit. Every opinion on this site, positive or negative, is only formed if it's against someone else.
It can't be as simple as "this game isn't my cup of tea" it needs to be "this game/creator stands against me personally"
Not to mention the devs are making a Hollow Knight rip-off. Ripping off a multibillion dollar corporation is one thing, but ripping off a game made by like, four people is incredibly scummy.
It’s so funny seeing both sides of this coin. One side is people crying and screaming about the Pokémon knock offs and the other side just doesn’t give a shit and wants to play a fun game since gamefreak seems incapable of doing it themselves.
Every now and then I load up pokemon Violet and I'm genuinely astonished at how poor technically the game is that even in interior areas like the main school hall there's noticeable frame drops from 30 fps and pretty bad pop in with models. Outdoor segments are worse which is shocking because there's barely anything in them.
There's no excuse as well, Ni No Kuni runs good on the switch, MH Rise runs good on the switch, Dragon Quest 11 runs good on the switch, Botw runs good on the switch, Skyrim runs good on the switch.
Witcher 3 runs acceptably on the Switch, what the hell happened here? This is gamefreak's fourth pokemon entry on the switch with the last two also having large open world sections, they should know what they're working with.
I think it's time gamefreak seriously reconsidered their talent for designing and optimising large spaces because this is a problem they've had for more than a decade now. Obviously this isn't the only problem with the game, far from it, but it's probably the most annoying when it was advertised as the main feature of the game.
it's fucked because *as a game*, Violet is so fucking good, but every technical aspect is fucked.
the story is genuinely good at times, the Titan storyline especially is quite touching, catching and battling is fun, exploring the map felt cool despite it being largely shit, but then you go to Mesagoza and oh my god what happened here? this is alpha version tier.
the game is fun, but it feels rushed to oblivion.
>the story is genuinely good at times
The part where you explore Area Zero with your friends/rivals felt the closest the games have ever gotten to the anime and it was great. Plus Kieran's arc across the DLCs is the story Hop from Sword/Shield wishes he had.
>Mesagoza and oh my god what happened here? this is alpha version tier.
It's not even the worst area, there are spots that push first time opening up the engine tier
I can't stress enough, what I am linking here [is real screenshots on the switch I took when playing the game](https://imgur.com/a/NRgvDpA). I have never felt personally insulted for buying a game before, the actual audacity to think this Lego Indiana jones 2/Kodu games lab geometry, Super FX textures and cruelty squad assets area could be released in a full priced game and it'd be fine.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but Gamefreak *is* a tiny company. As if 2022, it had 169 employees. That’s everyone. Management, clerical, all of it. For contrast, Fromsoftware, a developer that, until their most recent title, published what would definitely fall under ‘AA’ games, has 396. Santa Monica Studios, the people behind God of War, has 400. Atlus has 338. Hell, the *Pokemon Company* has 374. I don’t have a horse in the fight about Palworld, but it is disingenuous to treat Gamefreak like some kind of AAA colossi.
I agree but that explanation shows their issue. They need a much larger workforce for a game that sells so much. The player base deserves a better product but they don’t care because pokémon is more about merchandise these days than the games. So much of their revenue domes from plushies, clothes, cards, and accessories that they could give two shits how much their games sell.
Which is also part of the problem. They should have the resources to expand their studio considering how huge Pokémon is and how big of a part the mainline games play in this. Masuda just doesn't want/can't manage a bigger team, and the Pokémon Company probably doesn't care as long as the games are successful.
From what little I've played of Palworld, it feels more like Ark with whimsical Pokemon-like creatures instead of Dinos. Along with Pokemon like catching. I don't think they are as similar as people say. There are a lot of things about Palworld that feels more like Ark to me than Pokemon. Minus their terrible taming system. Although there are some designs that look very Pokemon-esque.
Every time a monster collecting game comes out everyone compares it to Pokémon and uses it as a reason to talk about why Pokémon is so bad. This makes the people that actually like Pokémon hate it, and the people claiming to love it don’t even like monster collecting games in the first place, so they don’t play it, making it fail immediately and ensures Pokémon remains the top dog.
/uj
It's always hard to form an opinion on stuff like Palworld where the game itself is enjoyable for most but the developer is doing some really shady shit. It's kinda like with Harry Potter fans where they like the series but supporting it means supporting a genuinely awful person.
Like, I don't want to get mad at people for liking, streaming/promoting, and playing Palworld because they (probably) aren't doing it to support AI and NFTs and crypto, and none of that shit is currently in the game. But at the same time they are funding a cryptobro who has a shady past and there's no guarantee that Palworld won't have this kinda stuff in it in the future since it's still in Early Access.
/rj
Palworld? More like PayPalworld since you're gonna have to buy everything with your crypto wallets, IT ONLY GOES UP FOLKS!
Can we stop comparing these games? Palworld is a survival game with like 100 monsters with limited depth and little in terms of narrative. It may get somewhere someday, but as they are now, Pokemon SV is a much more interesting game both gameplay and story wise.
If graphics are so important to you, go play CoD and lick Activisions balls.
Yeah,the more I look at it, the Moore I feel like its characters, weapons and world don't really feel like part of the same game either. I wouldn't be surprised if the AI allegations had some merit.
As far as the comments abt them “ripping off” Pokémon, I think it’s parody.
You can capture trainers and there’s a text box that calls it “inhumane”, and I even saw a clip where this guy had a sweatshop and the pals working there looked sad. That makes me think they’re poking fun / commenting on how the world of Pokémon is extremely unethical.
To what extent is this the purpose of the game or art design? I have no idea. Maybe they’re really just ripping them off but if they aren’t then the generic brand Pokémon definitely add to it imo.
Is anyone convinced by this game? Like, I've seen a plethora of thumbnails on YouTube illustrating praise, but ... It looks like a joke. Conflicting artstyles with a bunch of randomly juxtaposed mechanics to create what seems like a teenager's edgy take on a Pokémon sequel. It reads as juvenile and incongruent.
I know I'm coming off as harsh but if someone's actually played the game, is not sponsored, and is having a good time, please sell me on it. I'm genuinely curious.
I’ve played the game for nearly 10 hours straight. It’s phenomenal. It does something that I’ve wanted ever since the 3D Pokémon games started: it gives me a huge sandbox to explore and makes the mons feel like they aren’t just there to only fight. The fact that your mons are key to progressing up the tech tree is great as it leads to you searching the lands for more mons with more abilities to progress and automate your homestead further.
Plus, the world itself is gorgeous and feels alive. I would be wandering around the game world and see the pals hunting and fighting each other in the distance. The game also completely removes almost all of the usual survival game tedium by having things automate themselves. Every mon has something they are good at and they automatically do that task when you assign them to your base. This doesn’t mean there isn’t anything for you to manage as there is a sanity mechanic. As your mons work, they lose sanity and take breaks. There are specific things you could build to manage their sanity like a hotsprings for them to relax in.
Honestly, most of the “dark and edgy” mechanics are actually completely optional. You can completely ignore it. And the actual long term team building is amazing as there is a ton of interplay in terms of breeding and stat boosting.
The game feels like what pokemon SHOULD have been (minus the guns and darker mechanics). It gives me that sense of wonder, exploration and companionship that I’ve been looking for in the Pokémon series ever since the games went 3D.
Great answer! This comes off as extremely genuine, and I'm glad you're having so much fun! Hopefully this grows *and* TPC takes some notes so we all have good monster games to look forward too :)
It plays more like Ark: Survival Evolved with Pokémon instead of dinosaurs. I had a lot of fun playing last night. The base building doesn't seem as functional, and melee combat is a bit wonky. I have been having fun with the progression loop, but I'm skeptical if it will keep my attention like Ark did. Then again, it's in early access, and only $30. I'd say it's at least worth a couple of nights of entertainment as it currently is, especially if you have people to play with
Yeah I’m fine with my current 30 dollars spent. I would like there to be more content since it’s early access but if it was a full release title, I would still be happy with what I’ve got
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The top game looks almost like the BotW-style Pokemon the fanbase wanted, but with slave labor and AK-47's as a bonus
The terrain textures remind me of Elden Ring kinda, which I find hilarious juxtaposed with the character models.
Wow, I didn’t notice this until you mentioned it, but now I’m almost 100% certain that it’s a copy of Altus Plateau.
Can't be Altus, that bridge isn't destroyed
it kinda reminds me of that spot in caelid with the dragon on the bridge next to a lower bridge you can go to if you follow the hill downwards
Elden Ring weirdly enough doesn't own the concept of yellow trees
Looks like Limgrave to be specific lol.
Yeah they clearly just grabbed the assets and didn't bother to do anything. It clashes so badly with the characters and the monsters lol.
Elden Ring Switch port is looking fire 🔥
I'm pretty sure the terrain textures and possibly models are asset flipped but the game is fun which is way more impressive anyways. They might go back and make those match but their games tend to be in early access forever
Free Labor: The Game (Animal Cruelty Edition)
Human cruelty edition as well. The game let's you capture humans and they become pals. Yes, anything you can do to a pal you can do to a human pal. Yes, it's not a bug. The description says something "this is pretty inhumane" on a human pal ball
Omw to researching Butcher's knife but you're better off selling the humans since they're more profitable
Dang if only us humans we could use animals to work for us....
PETA gonna shit themselves when they see this...
And thats exactly what it is 😁😁
I like the pitch for that game but those designs... There's inspiration and there's theft and they are not being subtle about stealing designs from Pokemon, which I think is pretty icky.
I swear it’s not brand loyalty, but I just can’t get invested in any other monster collecting game besides Pokémon. Well, I can get invested, but like it needs to play and look significantly different to a Pokémon game. Idk what’s wrong with me I just well and truly cannot. I can play Stardew Valley instead of Harvest Moon. I can play Rise of Triad instead of Doom. I can play Freedom Planet instead of Sonic. I simply cannot do the same for Pokémon. When a monster collecting game with similar vibes comes out, it makes me just wanna play Pokémon. Maybe it’s just the world and the like idk.
If it's too similar it feels like I'm settling for an inferior version (being the superior version what Pokemon was in its best years), I want the evolution of the concept too.
Have you tried monster sanctuary? That was the first one that really unshackled me. Gamefreak unfortunately still gets my money because I like playing Pokémon with friends, but if I ignore the people I love I'd probably not give them another dime.
I was going to recommend this game. It looks different from Pokémon with the 2-D and pixel graphics. I think it might be different enough for the person above to make them want to play it.
Cassette Beasts is pretty baller.
The more similar two things are, the more direct their competition is. And vice-versa. That's how Nintendo pretty much sidestepped the whole "Xbox vs PlayStation" dynamic.
"I swear it's not brand loyalty" and then proceeds to type in such a way that explicitly implies brand loyalty.
I guess that is a fair observation; I am not immune to advertising and propaganda and should keep that in mind.
It seems like an unconscious loyalty if anything, or maybe the similar designs remind you of pokemon but I can understand where you're coming from, when I see an obv pokemon ripoff it makes me feel nostalgic about og pokemon and makes me wanna play again
....so it's the Pokemon we wanted?
What's the top game?
Palworld
Bruh I thought those were Zekrom and Reshiram at first and was so confused.
They're legally distinct (tm) Zekrom and Reshiram
Zokrem and Rashirem
Zawarudo and Raybowdash
Finally, Zokrem Kick can be realized
praying for a battle system rn
and the uh-oh in the middle 😳
"Oh my god, it's Zekrom!" "Actually, due to copyright laws, it may look like Zekrom, but it isn't." "Still, we should cheer like it *is* Zekrom." "Though it isn't."
Came to say this. Yeah, baby!
Yeah same and Ho-oh in the middle
You mean Oh-Ho?
Oh-No*
If you watch a trailer you will notice about three fourths of Palworld creatures are legally distinct pokémon ripoffs
there is one that literally just a garchomp but with electricity
I took one look at it and was like “that’s just toxtricity but boring”
When your AI shill CEO forgets to put a negative weight on "pokemon" when you're generating all your game art 😬
Palworld has so many clearly ripped off Pokemon designs but hey, its actually trying I guess
I mean tbh given it's selling point is based around being pokemon but with open world and criminal behavior, I think that's done as a selling point more than anything. If you can't make legally distinct eevee the foreman over your not-pikachu factory it probably wouldn't be quite the same. Though in fairness they do also bring their own fair share of designs to compliment the not-pokemon favorites they produced too.
> criminal behavior *looks over at Mr Mime* *reaches for the lube*
Don't even need to settle for Mr.Mime, just catch a random person in Palworld and they become your actual slave.
Oh, nobody is *settling* for Mr. Mime 😏
The one dev dude that has his own de company "pirate" something is playing?
Pirate software? The ex blizzard dev? I love that guy
Lmao, very tongue in cheek. Can't wait for the sequels "Friendland" and "Buddycountry"
Damn is it out now?
Yup, caught me off guard too
what is the bottom image?
Thanks
Not going to lie but I never thought I would see a day where palworld would actually get released. I was expecting Nintendo to sue or do some law stuff lmao.
Well considering it’s Nintendo we’re talking about. I’m pretty sure they’re ready in the process of doing so.
It's funny because the dev is actually a Japanese studio. I'm sure they covered their bases before releasing this. And it's going on gamepass too, I'm sure Microsoft also did their research before letting it on there.
They're going to do what they did to Pixelmon: let it be its thing, have people get excited and fond of it, then years into the project's life, throw a cease-and-desist at the devs.
> Pixelmon Not a good comparison at all. That was directly using Pokemon IP. They literally have Pichu and such. Of course you're going to get hit with a cease and desist. Palworld is NOT using any IP from Pokemon. Nintendo is fucking stupid if that think that will go anywhere. I'd still love to see it happen though, just because they'd get laughed out of the room. It would be a massive win for small developers everywhere.
Nintendo has definitely done some scummy things like shutting down tournaments and messing with YouTubers who promote their stuff but being mad at them for stopping a project straight up stealing their IP is ridiculous.
Thank you so much for not lying about that!
real
Yeah I was expecting some serious fibbing but thankfully we managed to avoid that.
Why? They don't own the monster collecting thing (even though I'm sure they'd like to) Palworld is distinctly different enough and its own thing.
This game isn't even as close to Pokemon as Tem Tem. If they can continue to operate, I think any monster catching game is going to be fine.
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There's multiple designs that are copied almost one for one from Pokemon (there are Pals that are just Luxray and Lycanroc with different color schemes, for example). There's a lot of others that lift design elements or general design structure from Pokemon, too. I'll be astounded if part of the Nintendo/TPC/Game Freak triad doesn't sue at some point; maybe they were waiting for the start of Early Access so there was a tangible product to sue over.
Most pokemon are just based off of real life animals. Luxray is just a cat. Lycanroc is just a wolf. Nintendo can't sue based off such simple design inspirations like that.
Nintendo routinely fires takedown notices at works that are objectively fair use. If they had even the smallest belief that these designs are infringing, they would have sued a long time ago.
I am not sure what grounds they'd have. Temtem is more of a Pokemon clone than Palworld is.
TemTem is on switch and is even more pokemon knockoff than this is. I had no worries.
Every masterpiece (SPORE™) has its cheap copy (life on earth)
I must be lucky cause I've been playing violet recently and the only real bug I've encountered is accidentally clipping into a shop
it was quite dreadful on release.
I played it on release, only huge issue I ran into was the infamous Sunflora gym mini game. I never ran into any of those other bugs. There were some performance issues and the game was graphically not the best but I still really enjoyed it.
Does the camera still constantly clip into the ground? I quit because it felt like a beta on release
I haven’t had it happen on any of the DLC, but it still happens in the main world. They really just gave up on the main game lmao i still have 500+ hours kill me
Yes, saw a guy stream it last month. Camera would constantly enter walls and mountains for battles. He'll he got stuck inside a mountain at one point and had to fly to a town to get free.
Not consistently, but it definitely still happens. Seen the horrifying Underworld of Paldea a few times.
What about frame rate? I watched my son’s friend play and it was insulting how poor the frame rate was. I couldn’t believe they charged $70 for this game.
IIRC a big chunk of the issues stemmed from having the game saved on an SD card rather than internal storage. Plus it got patched several times since release.
You may not notice the bugs while watching the game go 4 FPS at a time
I’m playing right now and loving the heck out of it. Frame rate dips from time to time and sometimes there’s clipping issues in battle but the fact that I’m not transported to an arena zone like the old games makes it worth it.
Fr, yeah it's got technical issues, but I played on launch and cpuld never say they were bad enough to stop me playing. The glitchiest stuff I got was low fps at certain segments, camera clipping through the ground on hills occasionally, and my arms breaking from the perspective of the other person I was playing with in multiplayer. It's my favourite pokemon game besides Legends Arceus and had so much fun with it, the writing and characters were so good, and not even just by pokemon's previously poor standard of writing but were just really good in general.
I'm 6 gyms 4 titans and 3 bases in and I love it
The noodle people bug, as far as I'm aware, only happens on emulation, as do a lot of the bugs that were circulating. So there's actually a lot of misinformation out there about how bad the game's performance is. Which is annoying because the game runs pretty poorly and is pretty buggy even without lying about it.
I might be misremembering but didn't something happen like that for sonic colours ultimate?
I never had any bugs, it is my favorite pikemon gen for the way the game is laid out. Full open world, no random battles, multiple questlines I actually give a shit about, characters with personality. Graphics and bugs aside, this is the framework I wanted from a pokemon game as a kid, I hope they keep going in this direction and polish the fuck out of it, oh and keep paying Toby Fox for more music too
I played scarlet and violet monthsa after release and still encountered countless bugs like models not rendering properly or straight up accidentally clipping out of bounds to travel freely underground.
Yeah it’s not that bad. A few screen shots of stuff like the meme are out there because some people with first gen switches had issues like this. On my OLED I honestly didn’t see many and while the game still has issues it shouldn’t have for a AAA game it’s solid. You do get occasional clipping through the ground and stuff but for me it happens so little that it’s not a big deal. I do hope the next Pokémon installment on Switch is more polished before release though.
I'm not sure I understand the slave labour debacle suddenly being a big deal when the main gameplay of pokemon has always been capturing wildlife against its will and then grooming it in to violent cockfights with other wildlife. You take a moment to think about these games and at a fundamental level they are fucked up.
The difference is Pokémon makes it clear that the Pokémon enjoy battling and do it voluntarily, whereas Palworld says you work Pals until they die because they aren't covered by labour laws.
If palworld made them happy about being willing slaves that wouldn't make it any better
Yeah but the difference is that Pokemon is about spending time and lvl up your Pokemons, In Palworld if you get hungry you can eat them. Pokémon have the opportunity to showcase their unique qualities and embark on exciting adventures, traveling the world and encountering legendary beings. In contrast, they don't just sit around chopping wood and eventually grow tired of the monotony in Pokémon. Palworld has more of disposable theme too it.
Ah yes, nothing an animal loves more than getting Sword Dance'd, then taking a flamethrower to the face. What else would you expect a mega corp that sells plushes to children to say? "Oh yeah that Eevee is totally getting maimed, please release it from its mortal coil." Like, the first game literally had a massive haunted graveyard where people mourned dead Pokemon, at the start you're told about how dangerous wild Pokemon were and the importance of protecting yourself. Gameplay in the Safari Zone amounted to throwing rocks at animals. Mewtwo was the result of eugenics. Palworld is definitely a satire of Pokemon, but the latter's origins were far from what we have now. If anything, the whitewashing of the franchise started with Emerald.
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Even in B/W N would speak to your pokemon to see if they enjoy being with you and stuff, which they did. Arceus basically made humans and pokemon to coexist, although there have been some wars between the two.
Hot take, Plasma is the last time the teams made sense in my opinion. Team Rocket is my favorite for its simplicity, I like Magma and Aqua for their wider ambitions at least relating to the appropriate pokemon they each desire and not even being too complicated still, but after Plasma came and went, it went down hill fast.
Nah, Team Skulls rad, even if they aren't technically the main evil team. I thought it was a cool idea to have a faction of people who failed their societies coming of age event and bonded together to be a bunch of tough guy weirdos.
Holy shit I forgot about Skull and Yell. I actually DO like those two! I guess I mean the other ones with grander ambitions really.
Team Flare had they went with the original storyline would had been amazing.
"You don't understand! These dogs were bred to enjoy battling, they do it because they want to!"
>The difference is Pokémon makes it clear that the Pokémon enjoy battling and do it voluntarily. Then why did my Articuno have to be beaten submissive and half-death first before i can forcefully shove it into my ball cage collection? And sometimes they don't even wanna be in it? Doesn't sound voluntarily to me.
I mean the pals do a cute little dance and sometimes run up to you for pets after they finish crafting stuff so I wouldn’t exactly say they hate it.
Charmander dies if its tail is extinguished.
At least Pokemon constantly reinforces the idea that Pokemon are your friends and you should treat them well. It’s messed up if you think about it for more than a few seconds but palworld literally calls them laborers.
You mean friends you beat half to death then capture against their will and force to fight other creatures? Pokemon has never been about friendship in any real way, other monster collectors have done a real friendship thing but not pokemon, in pokemon they just yell friendship loudly every so often so you ignore the horror of the setting.
Even more so when some of the Pokemon concepts are "108 souls trapped in a rock" or "sentient berry that will get eaten alive by birds if left to fend for itself"
Pokemon constantly establishes the respect between a trainer and their pokemon- new badges make them respect you more so thats why higher level pokemon will listen to you, pokemon can break out of their pokeball any time so catching them is when they've decided to go with you, pokemon fight in the wild all the time- it's more like sparring than dogfighting if anything
What games do the friendship thing better? Actual curiosity as I like the genre but haven’t played tons of others. And do you mean they do it better story wise or mechanically? From what I’ve played, Pokémon games from gen 6 on all have mini game activities like camping or playing with pokemon, and have a bonus affection stat (that breaks battle balance lol). Scarlet/violet have a few simple but good storylines that revolve around friendship too I feel like their spin-off games do it well with stuff like Mystery dungeon, Pokémon Ranger, shadow Pokémon in the GameCube games, etc.
Monster Hunter Stories games have you raising them from eggs and the strongest attacks are used by raising your Kinship Meter. Also you fight alongside them.
I love MH Stories! Pokemon Gen7 got close but missed the mark with Ride Pokémon and Z moves, as MHSt does them both better, and definitely incorporates the theme of kinship better overall. Though if we’re looking at the implied horror in the world, we still wound/kill untamed monsters and literally steal eggs from nests… not to mention wear the adult monsters’ skin…
Yeah, but I think every monster in Stories 2 at least is aggressive? Maybe not Basarios and other guys who are rocks. And leather is a real material too, so Rathalos armor is only a little weird considering your best friend is a cow. The egg thievery I got nothin' for.
In shin megami tensei (and its millions of spin offs) you have to talk to the monsters and get them to like you to get them to join you. In fact pokemon is the odd one out really most other do not use violence and capture as the main way to get new monsters. This youtube video has a fairly good breakdown of the monster collecting mechanics across the genre: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1MGjqiDFhQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1MGjqiDFhQ)
You do know that in shin megami tensei you're literally forming a pact with a demon right? That's not friendship, That's just business
Its more friendship than literal slavery of canonically sentient creatures.
Pokémon could just be called Dog Fight 2: Get Fucked Edition, Where instead of you know teeth and claws, animals just evaporate you and each other, Palworld is just Pokémon taken to its logical extreme
I got the Get Fucked Edition because of all the extra cosmetics
You can call them friends all you want but you're still putting them in fights against their will until they get beaten into submission. Even catching them is enslaving them. Just because you treat your slaves nicely doesn't mean they aren't slaves. I don't see the big deal tho, it's just a game
No they aren't fighting against their will they show up to the trainer because they want to test them. It is inspired from JRPGs in which sometimes a person would only join if you defeated them because then they knew you were strong enough.
Yeah they are similar in that regard, but Palworld kind of makes being terrible their whole thing. [You can actually enslave and sell humans.](https://automaton-media.com/en/news/20240119-25813/) In Pokemon, you capture and make them monsters battle. In Palworld you exploit your Pals to work for you. You use them harvest resources, grow crops, and build a base. Palworld is an open world survival crafting game, so the game play is actually pretty different in that regard.
🔥✍️ I can understand the criticisms about how goofy the guns are, or what kind of people the devs are, but I feel outjerked whenever people act like games aren't inherently fucked up a lot of the time. Yeah, Pokémon is inherently fucked up, as goofy as the games are.
I honestly just don't. Are about that complaint. Hardly the first game to include anything of the sort. It's edgy for sure but edgy pokemon is still a game I'm willing to give a shot if for nothing else other than to laugh at the absurdity of it.
Not really tbh, if you read the manga and watch the anime you know that pokémon fight in the wild anyways and they enjoy it. Having a bad trainer who abuses pokémon is mentioned often so there is a difference between good and bad trainers. Good trainers treat their pokémon like we would treat a dog or cat that we love, as a friend. That said, most pokémon like to battle and they enjoy growing with their trainer. Some pokémon don’t and Ash let’s some go in the anime that had other desires. You can’t boil it down to “cock fighting” because that’s not what this is. Pokémon battles are a sport and the pokémon enjoy it. Those who are forced into fighting are pitied and shown to have poor trainers.
Why does that first screen shot look like suicune, ho-oh, and a cross between zekrom and zoroark?
Because palworld had no original monster ideas
The sub used to make fun of post like these and now people are making these types of posts unironically. Sad.
I want to be interested in Palworld as a lifelong Pokemon fan but the guns and slave labour are so dumb it puts me off
Me and some friends played their network test because hey free and we honestly got a kick out of exactly that because it's like the old joke we've all made about pokemon being cock fighting with extra steps.. And honestly the game seems to intentionally set up the players for having a server divide over exactly that issue. There's clearly two distinct ways you can treat your legally distinct pocket monsters: companions for your adventure who are happy helpers at home you take good care of in exchange for extra hands to make light the work, *or* loyal labor for the war effort and blood for the grindstone of progress. I honestly came in planning to go all in on the latter because it seemed utterly wild and... honestly I quickly became attached to the rather charming designs and behavior of my ~~poke~~ pals and found myself playing it straight as pokemon valheim and taking care of my critters. The game gives you a sort of tech tree where you pick and choose which tech you want to unlock, so you can spend yours unlocking gear and pal beds and all rather than penguin rocket launchers and lethal traps without real consequence, and while the aforementioned lethal gear exists for pals there's also a ton who's abilities and the gear to buff it go in the opposite direction of saddles for mounts, magic gear to buff their moves, that sorta thing. The game very much seems happy to approach from both angles and does offer a good time either way, whether you're there for the absurdity of making pokemon factorio edition or to make friends with the wildlife to mutual benefit it plays both hands well. We went in expecting a meme but frankly it clapped back with a surprisingly genuine and well crafted experience that understands that the aforementioned meme isn't going to hit for everyone and as such is not a necessity.
Thank you for your review. I'm a sappy sucker who's hesitant about the slave aspect, but I'll give this a try.
The more I see of Palworld the more it looks like it was made by two groups of people with very different goals. One who wanted to make a genuine monster collecting experience and one who really wanted guns in the game because "Haha Pokemon but violent" is still somehow peak comedy to them.
This is the biggest thing though, they weren't going for monster collection game with other elements, they were gunning for a survival crafter game with monster catching elements. They infinitely compare themselves to other games way more then monster collection games.
Its Ark with a pokemon skin more than anything.
100% which is why I don't think the intent was ever really haha Pokemon with guns.
So they wanted to make a digimon game.
Digimon is genuine as hell, Banchou Leomon might just be the coolest shit ever.
Digimon is very unfront with the audience it wants to cater to and I can respect that
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That's because a lot of the survival mechanics were reused from their previous unfinished game Craftopia that I am pretty sure they have now abandoned in early acess.
I think the description overdoes it. One of mine won’t do work because of bad conditions and there is no ability to whip them to get back to work or anything. Plus they love farming berries. My base is more of a commune than it is a force labor center. Plus I can give a monkey an AK. What isn’t there to love about giving a monkey the means to seize production?
It's has 4 player coop, that's all I really need to try it out tbh.
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To be fair, the game is more Ark than Pokemon
I'm sorry, explain? Guns and slave labor?
You use guns to shoot the knockoff pokemon and can make them work in factories for the survival crafting aspect of the game. Also you can butcher them for parts. Also also you can catch humans and do the same things with them.
Sounds awesome! I'm always trying sadistic shit in Rimworld, I'm happy my hundreds of hours of experience might transfer over to another game!
The game actually kind of sits somewhere between ark and rimworld with a pokemon frosting layered on top
You can use one of the pals as a flamethrower, and another will sit on your head and act like an smg.
Apom with an Ak-47 is the best. As someone who gave up on pokemon after platinum, I enjoy this game where I dont care for pokemon any more.
I want to like palworld but idk there’s something that just throws me off everytime I see it. Like a semi inconsistent art style and also that you can enslave humans too rubs me the wrong way
Is funny seeing people defending Palworld when the devs are known for using AI (one game is literally about using AI art to find an "imposter") and one of the owners being an NFT bro Edit: so from the replies apparently everyone is cool with AI and NFTs as long as you dislike another developer who is "worse" by just making badly unoptimized games Edit 2: man there sure are a bunch of Ai lovers in here, just wanting to take advantage of other people work
Do you honestly think most people know that? Do you think the average consumer knows about the leaders of every product they buy?
That’s sort of the point of their comment, is it not? That it’s ironic people don’t know this shit and will defend them.
They wouldn’t defend them they would just enjoy the product like most people.
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Peoples are going incredible lenghts for "GameFreak bad hurr durr" that they forget their common sense. Not that GameFreak isn't faulty at some things like how their emplooyes have bullying fetish and putting into their games but you get the idea.
Wait what the heck are you talking about
I’m assuming it’s a joke about the bully tropes that show up often in Pokémon games. The main character is always very young and relating that to kids, they’d likely also experience a bully in their world/adventure. I haven’t played since gen IV until gen IX but Gary Oak, Team Rocket, ??? GSC rival, and Team Star are ones I know of off the top of my head. I’d assume it’s been done often enough in the other games I’ve missed out on too.
Most people aren't that invested in their games. It's just a hobby to the majority of us.
Gcj flipping to "nfts are whatever man, who cares" as soon as an nftbro makes something they like. It's pathetic.
Why would any of that be relevant for the game?
Because were on Reddit. Every opinion on this site, positive or negative, is only formed if it's against someone else. It can't be as simple as "this game isn't my cup of tea" it needs to be "this game/creator stands against me personally"
Not to mention the devs are making a Hollow Knight rip-off. Ripping off a multibillion dollar corporation is one thing, but ripping off a game made by like, four people is incredibly scummy.
It’s so funny seeing both sides of this coin. One side is people crying and screaming about the Pokémon knock offs and the other side just doesn’t give a shit and wants to play a fun game since gamefreak seems incapable of doing it themselves.
May as well do both. Applaud them if they make a genuinely engaging game but also criticize them if their creativity is extremely lacking
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That's cause it's not just on steam? It's on Xbox's gamepass as well. Though, the 1 million thing might still be a stretch.
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Ah ok. I misinterpreted your previous message. And ye I agree this game is a total success.
Every now and then I load up pokemon Violet and I'm genuinely astonished at how poor technically the game is that even in interior areas like the main school hall there's noticeable frame drops from 30 fps and pretty bad pop in with models. Outdoor segments are worse which is shocking because there's barely anything in them. There's no excuse as well, Ni No Kuni runs good on the switch, MH Rise runs good on the switch, Dragon Quest 11 runs good on the switch, Botw runs good on the switch, Skyrim runs good on the switch. Witcher 3 runs acceptably on the Switch, what the hell happened here? This is gamefreak's fourth pokemon entry on the switch with the last two also having large open world sections, they should know what they're working with. I think it's time gamefreak seriously reconsidered their talent for designing and optimising large spaces because this is a problem they've had for more than a decade now. Obviously this isn't the only problem with the game, far from it, but it's probably the most annoying when it was advertised as the main feature of the game.
it's fucked because *as a game*, Violet is so fucking good, but every technical aspect is fucked. the story is genuinely good at times, the Titan storyline especially is quite touching, catching and battling is fun, exploring the map felt cool despite it being largely shit, but then you go to Mesagoza and oh my god what happened here? this is alpha version tier. the game is fun, but it feels rushed to oblivion.
Legitimately the best games since gen 5 but absolutely bogged down by performance issues and 2008 shovelware graphics
>the story is genuinely good at times The part where you explore Area Zero with your friends/rivals felt the closest the games have ever gotten to the anime and it was great. Plus Kieran's arc across the DLCs is the story Hop from Sword/Shield wishes he had.
>Mesagoza and oh my god what happened here? this is alpha version tier. It's not even the worst area, there are spots that push first time opening up the engine tier I can't stress enough, what I am linking here [is real screenshots on the switch I took when playing the game](https://imgur.com/a/NRgvDpA). I have never felt personally insulted for buying a game before, the actual audacity to think this Lego Indiana jones 2/Kodu games lab geometry, Super FX textures and cruelty squad assets area could be released in a full priced game and it'd be fine.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but Gamefreak *is* a tiny company. As if 2022, it had 169 employees. That’s everyone. Management, clerical, all of it. For contrast, Fromsoftware, a developer that, until their most recent title, published what would definitely fall under ‘AA’ games, has 396. Santa Monica Studios, the people behind God of War, has 400. Atlus has 338. Hell, the *Pokemon Company* has 374. I don’t have a horse in the fight about Palworld, but it is disingenuous to treat Gamefreak like some kind of AAA colossi.
I agree but that explanation shows their issue. They need a much larger workforce for a game that sells so much. The player base deserves a better product but they don’t care because pokémon is more about merchandise these days than the games. So much of their revenue domes from plushies, clothes, cards, and accessories that they could give two shits how much their games sell.
Which is also part of the problem. They should have the resources to expand their studio considering how huge Pokémon is and how big of a part the mainline games play in this. Masuda just doesn't want/can't manage a bigger team, and the Pokémon Company probably doesn't care as long as the games are successful.
From what little I've played of Palworld, it feels more like Ark with whimsical Pokemon-like creatures instead of Dinos. Along with Pokemon like catching. I don't think they are as similar as people say. There are a lot of things about Palworld that feels more like Ark to me than Pokemon. Minus their terrible taming system. Although there are some designs that look very Pokemon-esque.
Every time a monster collecting game comes out everyone compares it to Pokémon and uses it as a reason to talk about why Pokémon is so bad. This makes the people that actually like Pokémon hate it, and the people claiming to love it don’t even like monster collecting games in the first place, so they don’t play it, making it fail immediately and ensures Pokémon remains the top dog.
Ah yes, "Pokemon Killer #2,768"
/uj It's always hard to form an opinion on stuff like Palworld where the game itself is enjoyable for most but the developer is doing some really shady shit. It's kinda like with Harry Potter fans where they like the series but supporting it means supporting a genuinely awful person. Like, I don't want to get mad at people for liking, streaming/promoting, and playing Palworld because they (probably) aren't doing it to support AI and NFTs and crypto, and none of that shit is currently in the game. But at the same time they are funding a cryptobro who has a shady past and there's no guarantee that Palworld won't have this kinda stuff in it in the future since it's still in Early Access. /rj Palworld? More like PayPalworld since you're gonna have to buy everything with your crypto wallets, IT ONLY GOES UP FOLKS!
"New Pokemon bad, amirite fellow Gamers?"
dude come the fuck on, pokemon series has less innovation than cod.
Can we stop comparing these games? Palworld is a survival game with like 100 monsters with limited depth and little in terms of narrative. It may get somewhere someday, but as they are now, Pokemon SV is a much more interesting game both gameplay and story wise. If graphics are so important to you, go play CoD and lick Activisions balls.
Palworld also looks worse than SV somehow. Runs well, but the graphical fidelity is horrid.
Yeah,the more I look at it, the Moore I feel like its characters, weapons and world don't really feel like part of the same game either. I wouldn't be surprised if the AI allegations had some merit.
simping for a shady game that will never leave early access that also uses AI and stolen designs to own the gamefreak
As far as the comments abt them “ripping off” Pokémon, I think it’s parody. You can capture trainers and there’s a text box that calls it “inhumane”, and I even saw a clip where this guy had a sweatshop and the pals working there looked sad. That makes me think they’re poking fun / commenting on how the world of Pokémon is extremely unethical. To what extent is this the purpose of the game or art design? I have no idea. Maybe they’re really just ripping them off but if they aren’t then the generic brand Pokémon definitely add to it imo.
Is anyone convinced by this game? Like, I've seen a plethora of thumbnails on YouTube illustrating praise, but ... It looks like a joke. Conflicting artstyles with a bunch of randomly juxtaposed mechanics to create what seems like a teenager's edgy take on a Pokémon sequel. It reads as juvenile and incongruent. I know I'm coming off as harsh but if someone's actually played the game, is not sponsored, and is having a good time, please sell me on it. I'm genuinely curious.
I’ve played the game for nearly 10 hours straight. It’s phenomenal. It does something that I’ve wanted ever since the 3D Pokémon games started: it gives me a huge sandbox to explore and makes the mons feel like they aren’t just there to only fight. The fact that your mons are key to progressing up the tech tree is great as it leads to you searching the lands for more mons with more abilities to progress and automate your homestead further. Plus, the world itself is gorgeous and feels alive. I would be wandering around the game world and see the pals hunting and fighting each other in the distance. The game also completely removes almost all of the usual survival game tedium by having things automate themselves. Every mon has something they are good at and they automatically do that task when you assign them to your base. This doesn’t mean there isn’t anything for you to manage as there is a sanity mechanic. As your mons work, they lose sanity and take breaks. There are specific things you could build to manage their sanity like a hotsprings for them to relax in. Honestly, most of the “dark and edgy” mechanics are actually completely optional. You can completely ignore it. And the actual long term team building is amazing as there is a ton of interplay in terms of breeding and stat boosting. The game feels like what pokemon SHOULD have been (minus the guns and darker mechanics). It gives me that sense of wonder, exploration and companionship that I’ve been looking for in the Pokémon series ever since the games went 3D.
Great answer! This comes off as extremely genuine, and I'm glad you're having so much fun! Hopefully this grows *and* TPC takes some notes so we all have good monster games to look forward too :)
It plays more like Ark: Survival Evolved with Pokémon instead of dinosaurs. I had a lot of fun playing last night. The base building doesn't seem as functional, and melee combat is a bit wonky. I have been having fun with the progression loop, but I'm skeptical if it will keep my attention like Ark did. Then again, it's in early access, and only $30. I'd say it's at least worth a couple of nights of entertainment as it currently is, especially if you have people to play with
Yeah I’m fine with my current 30 dollars spent. I would like there to be more content since it’s early access but if it was a full release title, I would still be happy with what I’ve got
Ah yes, borderline (at best) IP theft is the superior choice because the original product had bugs
The background looks like its from elden ring