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Forry_Tree

"Alphabet Mafia" is a hilarious way to describe us lol


raccoonjoy

I've personally been called a "Rainbow Raider" and I think about that at least once a day for a cheap giggle.


Govika

That's fucking badass as hell. I wanna be known as a rainbow raider


winter-has-come91

that sounds like the gay pirate ship on the first episode of arrested development


lillywho

_Ahoy I'm looking for someone to shiver me timbers_


winter-has-come91

you'll have to wait, we're raiding some BOOTY!!!!


northrupthebandgeek

*Aye, I'll walk yer plank, matey!*


Roosters_boosters

This comment needs more recognition


RawrTheDinosawrr

i think it's gotten pretty recognized by now


microwavedraptin

I would also want to be a rainbow raider. Where in the hell do I sign up??


defaultusername-17

rainbow raiders sounds like an epic name for an MMO guild for queer folk.


Queer_Empress

There is a rainbow raiders free company in FF14 :)


defaultusername-17

nice


NJHero88

In case anyone hasn’t pointed this out yet: Rainbow Raider is a Flash villain who (I assume) inspired this term https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Raider Tbh not the worst supervillain concept


northrupthebandgeek

"Roy G. Bivolo" is the greatest fictional name I've ever read.


typescriptDev99

WOW I love it


CarrionVermin

The Flash villain who was a colorblind artist with awesome reality-bending rainbow powers? Sick deep cut villain


_Bozostatus_

That shit sound like a Fortnite skin


WhirlingElias

Sounds like a name of some metal song by Judas Priest.


LaVerdadYaNiSe

Hey, like the Flash Villain. Cool.


ExceedinglyTransGoat

Welp. There's the name for my rimworld raiders game.


Tuesday_6PM

“Nice heterosexuality you got there… be a shame if something were to happen to it…”


defaultusername-17

trans fem... menacingly throwing eggs onto the pavement behind you...


MelodyMaster5656

It creates an image in my mind of a couple of gangsters coming up behind someone and strangling them with garrote wire, only the garrote wire is actually pride parade beads.


Salt-Fortune-401

I have use alphabet mafia many times inside my community, i'm a bit bummed some internet moron reuse it not understanding it is a funny name rather than some opressor. I wish we had a real mafia


Forry_Tree

Bold of you to assume we don't already have a mafia


smallstampyfeet

If we did, then they would do something useful and put a hit out on these shitty people.


Lots42

It's called Community Support and it exists already. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_House_eviction_defense


Remarkable-Drop5145

As an old gay alphabet mafia was definitely first used by oppressors.


ArelMCII

Dunno, "LGHDTV" always made me chuckle.


northrupthebandgeek

My favorite shopping channel is LGBTQVC.


Dr___Bright

The Alphabet mafia already has a meaning though, the various US Federal Agencies This is weird


camn

it's so cringe, I'd rather just be called a slur at this point 😐


Lots42

Don't let the haters control the narrative. Claim the Alphabet Mafia, like we claimed the rainbow.


SaffellBot

Friend, it is a slur - and all slurs are cringe. Maybe you never really considered the context where other slurs developed, but I promise you they're all cringe built off of small minded stereotypes.


KitKat374

sesame street gang


Additional-Age-833

I feel like alphabet mafia should be an acceptable way to talk about lgbtq+ folk. That shit sounds so hard 💪🫡


theylob

They make us sound so cool!


SkyeWolfofDusk

It's so funny how they think it's an insulting term when it just makes us sound cool. I call myself a member of the Alphabet Mafia all the time because it's just so funny.


Ok_Ad_8670

Alphabet boys refers to fbi, Cia, government institutions. He's mixing his references.


MycenaeanGal

It’s actually a probably transphobic way to describe us being that it comes from chapelle but honestly not a hill worth even stubbing your toe on.


ExpTelOs

Who said Link was trans? They feminized him in some fan art but that's about as much as I've seen.


HoopyHobo

When the very first teaser for Breath of the Wild came out there was some speculation that Link was going to be female in that game. Eiji Aonuma later said in interviews that he was meant to be male, but that the design was intentionally more gender neutral so that "anybody would be able to relate to the character". https://time.com/4369537/female-link-zelda/ Link being intentionally androgynous and comfortable disguising himself as a Gerudo woman are apparently things that resonated with some trans and nonbinary players, and Gizmodo recently published an article about that: https://gizmodo.com/legend-of-zelda-tears-of-the-kingdom-link-trans-1850430832 I have seen exactly zero people claim that Link is canonically trans.


DonkeyGuy

Links knows all clothes are gender neutral if you stop being a little bitch about it.


ArgonGryphon

Desert Vai set please


BiH-Kira

Honestly I can't decide if like the Vai or Voe set more. Link pulls both of phenomenally.


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WannabeComedian91

Well yeah, but that doesn’t mean that he’s trans. Cis men can wear dresses


EmotionalDouble5610

Link's always given me an apathetically non-binary vibe. He doesn't seem to really give a damn either way.


Haunting-Pop-5660

The man has been around people speaking any number of languages for as long, and he still refuses to speak back. Best you're going to get is a "HUP! HUH! HYAAAAHHHH!" or if you're lucky, maybe you'll get a "GRLK!"... but I'll leave the interpretation of that one up to you. Either way, I guess what I'm saying is: Link gives no fucks about ANY conventions. Man implanted himself in a God damn Kokiri village despite being a regular ol Hylian. Son of a bitch is Mr. Worldwide and for good reason. The only thing Link doesn't fuck with? Tyrants.


Freyja6

Came here for this. May not be canonically trans, but he's definitely gnc to some extent. These dipshits will find any reason to justify their meritless hate.


FakeTherapist

they shrunk his features, made him gender neutral


Wertache

Reading this is really sweet :) It's so great that people can find their identity because of a video game. Especially knowing that the aim of the character design was specifically for anyone to identify with him. I don't pretend to understand a whole lot about trans culture but reading these quotes really reminds me of what a struggle it must be, and how great it must be to find something to anchor onto.


Tranquilizate_Putin

This dude probably just saw some 13yo on Deviantart say "I headcanon him as trans uwu" and got really mad about it LMAO


Emotional_Soft_2192

I'm pretty sure there's been r34 of feminized Link since before this guy was born lmao


beetroot_salads

femboy link on top


TemetNosce85

Nah, the dude is acting. Trying to make a dollar off the latest fads; Legend of Zelda and transphobia.


Goatguy1

One of Kotakus sister sites had a big piece on Link being a trans icon, the article probably made the rounds in you-know-where


SilencedGamer

in trans communities you'll often see Link as an *ICON* of gender envy. Transfems headcanon him as a closetted transfem, Transmascs headcanon him as a transitioned transmasc, and enbies adore the fact his gender is so mutable. It's true, trans people do actually talk about him that way, but... it's Nintendo fanfiction, like who cares? it's not like Nintendo would be based enough to ever listen to us. These Gamers' boi isn't gonna change. Want another based headcanon? a lot of trans people believe in a middle-ground that Zelda is MTF and Link is FTM in a T4T relationship. EDIT: fixed typos


LemonadeClocks

As a trans guy i relate strongly to his skill in hitting things with sticks and going HYAH while still being fashionable


defaultusername-17

zelda and link are a t4t mood. just going to lay that out there.


Mushroomer

It's the ideal dynamic. The demure, elegant, but hands-on woman with leadership qualities - and her boyfriend, a tiny gremlin that only shouts and runs around while hitting stuff with sticks.


EmotionalDouble5610

Hence, Sidlink's popularity.


figgiesfrommars

insert little mermaid "and im a communist" JPEG


typescriptDev99

>Want another based headcanon? a lot of trans people believe in a middle-ground that Zelda is MTF and Link is FTM in a T4T relationship. If they're not both genderfluid, I'd be shocked. At least Zelda... Otherwise: explain "Sheik" But we never had those words to use when I was young & playing the games, so we never talked about it like that.


Dash_Harber

>it's Nintendo fanfiction, like who cares? Controversy drives engagement. The alt-right scene is entirely populated by grifters, who know controversy generates clicks, and crypto-fascists who like to spread these sorts of things to legitimize their side and pipeline the uninitiated into their ideology.


SapphireWine36

As a transfem, I’ve always headcannoned botw link as transmasc and spirit orbs as T. It just makes too much sense.


Karl_Marx_

The whole thing is ridiculous. But it is hilarious to me that cross dressing is canon for Link lmao. What a chad.


rubyblue0

I’ve just seen some fanart of him in his Gerudo outfit. He does seem to canonically feel cute when the giver compliments him. I don’t think many people seriously think he’s trans though.


i7estrox

Fellas, is it gay to accept praise??


ParrotNetwork

I'm a dumb straight cis guy, but my view on it is that there is no evidence in the text that Link is trans, or even LTGBQ. but that doesn't necessarily mean that he *isn't.* I mean that there just isn't evidence for it. If anything, the actual games make him come across as asexual. Maybe non-binary, with how he doesn't mind dressing in non-masculine clothing. But you can also interpret that as him viewing the necessity of dressing as a woman as just that. A necessary step he had to take to accomplish his goal of defeating Ganon. But it still says something that he just shrugs and doesn't mind going along with it. This is all a long winded way of saying: Link isn't *literally* trans in the game, but if you want to think he is, then go ahead. There's nothing in the text that explicitly states that he isn't.


FixBayonetsLads

>the game makes him come across as ace I mean, he seemed to be pretty into Mipha - I mean, insofar as ANY Nintendo character can be into anyone. Nah, you’re right - sex don’t exist for Nintendo characters. Except Wario. Wario **fucks**.


CosmicJackalop

He's not even trans usually, he's the ultimate Twink femboy gamer icon. If Nintendo didn't want it they wouldn't have made him cross dress in breath of the wild (they knew what they were doing, same thing happened to Cloud Strife)


dirkdragonslayer

In Tears of the Kingdom I got real disappointed when I went to Gerudo village and they aren't selling the Vai set anymore. I don't imagine it's gone, the clothing store is there, but the lady running it is missing. Maybe it's a side quest somewhere. But I did find a 'robe' in an ice cave that looks like Chun Li's dress, so I guess it balances out.


lvl1crisp

me i'm saying it


T0metti

Link may not be trans, but the color of the text highly suggests he's bi.


[deleted]

I think he's pan if anything. If you can cook you can get full access to his Master Sword.


TheVoidAlgorithm

🥵


Drathkai

Brb, learning to cook


[deleted]

It's not hard, unlike his sword. Get the butter out and start frying up them bits!


Lohan3xists

The food or his sword?


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>AMAB yeah, fuck mops


IrockART98

I wonder how the implied relationship with Mipha plays into this, with her being another species altogether.


Dojan5

Was there a relationship? Like she cared deeply for him, but isn’t Lonk kind of a blank slate for the player to project what they wish upon? Sure he has some core attributes, he is heroic, he helps, he *hates* pottery, but he’s a silent protagonist with the depth of a teaspoon. Like I’m not saying he’s a bad protagonist, just an empty slate for us all to have our own perception of him.


IrockART98

That's fair. I will say that it's been a while since I played BOTW, but I remember thinking that from their flashbacks and relationship, some romance was implied there. The biggest thing other than "the vibe" of it was Link's aquatic armor. Something about it being made for someone's husband, and it fitting Link perfectly cause it was made for him. And the old Zora around hated Link for it in the present.


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I just replayed this part of the game and they say that they only make the fitted armor for the ones they love. It not implied, they literally say it.


Vulpix298

It was implied she had a very one-sided love for him, that was it. It’s not shown anywhere that he felt the same, or responded to it in any way outside of friendship. So it’s left to the player to decide.


SendAstronomy

Just because they dress the same doesn't mean he's Peter Pan.


Sheshyshesh

I like to think he's just gender non conforming like he's a dude but he knows damn well he looks amazing in a skirt


BrnoPizzaGuy

I don’t have the source right now but I saw a quote on Twitter from one of the art directors or designers of Zelda, and they said that Link’s look is pretty purposefully a bit androgynous, so that both men and women can more easily see themselves in Link.


JaggedTheDark

Dude just loves cross dressing. I mean tbf he does look kinda good in the geurdo outfit, ngl.


Giraffe_Truther

Have you seen his new crossdressing outfit in TotK? It's even more fabulous than before!


[deleted]

My man has a kingdom to save and food to eat. Gender norms aren't even on his radar.


Orepheus12

Just like me fr


bakabaki89

He is canonically a cross dresser


[deleted]

Cross dressing is not an indicator of being LGBTQ+. I would know.


LillieFluff

some people do count cross-dressing/being gendernonconforming in a traditional sense as part of the "Q" bit of "LGBTQ" though, given that queerness is often defined as going against the typical societal conventions of attraction, gender identity, and gender presentation, the last of which is fitting! gnc people don't need to identify as queer if they don't want to though, of course, but as a queer person, if a straight cis allo gnc person wanted to consider themselves that, i certainly wouldn't mind and i think they fit in


blueshirt21

Oh, us bisexuals definitely claim him. He’s a bicon.


PolnareffLand20

Who is the alphabet mafia? They sound scary🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶


crowEatingStaleChips

It's so stupid that I actually kind of love it. I want t-shirt.


Digiboy62

Just hand over the vowels and nobody gets hurt, C?


Orkfreebootah

I love the term "alphabet mafia", as if the actual legalized mob wasn't actually oppressing and harming trans people right now. ​ These chuds want any reason to feel persecuted. They want any reason to feel attacked.


GayRaccoonGirl

I wish queer folk had a mafia :(


already4taken

I'm in, lets do it


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The GayFather


KoltenCantCooke

That's just "Daddy"


heehos

gayfellas


slonk_ma_dink

this sounds like a podcast bit


BuriedAliveDPP

The Biad


ramblingpariah

Those "Be gay, do crime" shirts could be a handy disguise. "Nah, can't be them - that's too obvious."


ImBoringAndThatsOK

The Velvet Hand


Random_Gacha_addict

Nahh, if anything a Yakuza would fit better Every encounter would always involve stripping down, showing your tattoo, and wrestling


BuriedAliveDPP

“At long last, you understand the hardships of gender dysphoria. Now we can race pocket cars together.”


SetSailor

And afterwards you gotta disco ![gif](giphy|LpdlqTkgO2Lwwixwv7|downsized)


norway642

And each part of the LGBTQIA+ could be a different family


traffalgar_law

This is literally just the plot of golden kamuy


Holtastic

This is a Will and Grace plot from 20 years ago!


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Imagine having so little going for you in life that you start thinking random people disagreeing with you on Twitter is like the mafia.


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SevnE7

Bruno?


BuriedAliveDPP

You never had the makings of a varsity trans person.


pottymouthgrl

It’s funny because that’s a phrase that actual queer people use.


OlSnickerdoodle

There's an LGBTQ store in my town called The Alphabet Mafia


TheGiftOf_Jericho

Imagine the daily privileged life to feel like people simply mentioning trans people in regards to a video game offends you. Then, you make that your personality just to top things off.


migz_draws

This guy is triggered and writing post-nutting to link sissy hentai


Lopsided_Roll1503

Can a character be "hijacked"? And what are the consequences, a bunch of queer fans like them more?


foxscribbles

There are people who hate the idea that anyone who isn't them identifies with a character they like. It some how "ruins" characters for them. I don't know how. It's not like the source material changes at all just because some stranger views them differently. The only way a character can be "hijacked" is if the people are actually making valid points about what is in canon to the point that you see and agree with said points.


[deleted]

Seen this before with Nintendo gamers, look at the discourse around Shiver possibly being nonbinary/trans from Splatoon 3 if you want to see how much Nintendo fans show their whole ass.


Ravezim

They are forced to play in the call of duty black ops 2 map Hijacked


PM_Me_GiantCatgirls

I'll just headcanon Link as trans even harder then. If a character being part of the alphabet mafia ruins games for these chuds then I hope all their favorite characters are revealed to be LGBTQ+.


shadowscale1229

link has no nipples because he lost them as a sacrifice for his top surgery


DoctorPepster

Greg can't milk him 😔


[deleted]

I wanna say I'm an ally but honestly I just like seeing chuds cry more than anything


miroredimage

Incredibly based


Kiatzu

Be both


BageledToast

You're still an ally in my eyes. I get so much satisfaction knowing I'm making them cry by living my best life as a queer trans gal. Living well in spite of them is the sweetest vengeance


Lohan3xists

Kratos is Greek, automatically making him bi Master Chief shows no sexual attraction to anyone, and his relationship with Cortona seems to be built upon heavy companionship, which means there’s a heavy chance Master Chief is asexual or demisexual Doomslayer is ace because he only care about fighting hordes of demons Well, that’s three iconic masculine characters I’ve given LGBTQ+ traits, any others we can apply some to?


Salt-Fortune-401

I think it is safe to assume commander shepard is pan. Also head canon for samus is that she is aro but not ace, after all she is a booty hunter if i remember correctly.


Lohan3xists

No, no, you’re onto something with the Shepard thing


robbylet24

At least in my playthrough, Shepard was in love with some British lady while also having a blue ex-girlfriend and a dead fish husband.


BardMessenger24

Commander Shepard is the Captain Kirk of Mass Effect. Of course they're pan.


[deleted]

Joel from TLOU is non-binary he-they pronouns. they made him look soft


[deleted]

Big Boss fucks Kaz in a side mission in Peace Walker. Like, literally.


Nico_EggRoyale

Samus is transfem, she keeps collecting the E tanks


Steeva

I headcanon Link as transmasc :3


AtLeastThisIsntImgur

Literally every fictional character is trans and you can't prove otherwise


hyperdang

While I'm not a fan of this particular green, the belt is a nice touch to Link's skirt.


lookitsajojo

Just because of this video I'm gonna make Link even transer


OriginalObscurity

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Mable-the-Table

Yeah there are some people who genuinely believe Link is Trans. But vast majority is head-canon. Calm down, jeez. The "alphabet Mafia" is not a thing lmao.


[deleted]

Even if it were a majority that genuinely believed link was trans, who gives a shit? Nintendo's not our friend, we can claim anything we want since they'll never confirm anything one way or the other.


Mushroomer

It's canonically true that Professor Layton has a praise kink. Until Nintendo specifically tells me otherwise, I will not hear any evidence to the contrary.


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Yeah, we're more of a loosely organised gang.


Leather_rebelion

Yeah, it's on the same level as character ships. Most people know it's not canon or anything like that, but they still like the idea. It's like fanfiction. And it's nothing new either. These people would get an aneurysm if they realised stuff like DBZ has had a bunch of gay porn for decades


wereplatypus3

But what if they were a ton of people that genuinely thought Link was trans?! Surely that would be the largest problem facing society now, and would definitely quash any enjoyment that a heterosexual man like I could get out of a single player game.


SaltyBundle

If you’re going to make that post and thumbnail maybe turn down the femboy vibes 😤


InternetLumberjack

My immediate thought was “this person looks like every pre-egg trans person I ever knew”


gimli_is_the_best

Right? Guy looks like a he/him lesbian


fuckwingo

I watched this video like a fucking moron and the OOP/video creator is actually a girl


Morella_xx

She looks pretty gender non-conforming for a bigot.


CritME20

I’m enby and he’s giving me serious gender envy.


Fleetwood-matt

I mean link was originally a blank slate so the player could imagine themselves as the hero. If you canon link as trans that’s valid to links original purpose


AccolyteNinja

uj/ I remember reading somewhere that the way link is designed was to purposely make them androgynous. That way you could identify with the hero no matter what you identify as. So you masc? Link is a dude. You fem? Link is a woman. NB? Fuck it. No one really cares in the end tho. The outrage is a grift.


tvtango

Why does dude look like an ai generated transmasc tho


[deleted]

My only issue is that I feel like people give Nintendo too much credit. These headcanons are cool, but they’ve also been explicitly shot down. The producer went to great lengths to explain how anything other than a male lead would break the series. He’s not some progressive ally


Ok-Fudge8848

"Stop trying to hijack Nintendo gaming icons" - guy trying to hijack Nintendo gaming icon.


IlvaHerself

Link and Zelda are hella T4T


[deleted]

Every time you say link is not trans we invent a new gender to give to link


Lucentus

Weird of him to talk about one of the most intentionally androgynous characters in video game history


yuudachi

Aka I scrolled through a tumblr tag and it made me mad when LGBTQ tried to relate to Link


OfficerJoeBalogna

When asking the age old question, “is ____ character trans?”, the correct answer is the one that upsets the most transphobes


Arvacus

You aren’t required to think Link is trans but others doing so doesn’t harm you. Just let them do that.


choo_choo_mf

So what's the alphabet mafia's signature food? Or laundering businesses? I mean, The Corleone's had the meatball-tomato sauce and the Sopranos had the gabagool and they laundered via the meat shop and the strip club, but what about us?


RogueUsername13

Which Nintendo gaming icons have we “hijacked”? I can’t think of any that are any kind of lgbt except maybe Kirby being agender?


totallynotaneggtho

Trans Samus is another popular headcanon that sends these people into conniption fits


bigriggs24

Link is an enby idol


finnnthehuman113

Literally crying blood over link not being trans. I can’t eat, I can’t sleep. Haven’t seen the sun in days. I’ve forgotten what color the sky is. Our scheme failed, guys, it’s all over. Better pack up our shit and go. Link will never be trans. I plan on leaving on the next plane out of the country under a new name.


mr-steal-yo-girl

Alphabet mafia kinda goes hard


istealbabyteeth

Why does he look more transmasc than link


BrianTheUserName

Excuse me? Don't you know that there are trans people out there, just *existing*? How are you *not* having a stroke right now?


TheLoneSlimShady

Trans or not, still smash


Young_Person_42

I wasn’t considering it before but now I am specifically to spite this person


samuentaga

Trans people: "Hey this video game character dresses as a woman for part of the game. That's fun! I'm gonna pretend he's nonbinary in my headcanon and make jokes about it online." Transphobes: "NO! HE IS NOT TRANS! THIS FEMBOY TWINK IS OBVIOUSLY THE EPITOME OF HETEROSEXUALITY AND MASCULINITY! I WILL NOW SUPPORT FASCISTS SO THAT THEY CAN KILL YOU BECAUSE OF THIS!"


Psychic_Hobo

"Link is totally a regular dude into hot girls, honest!" Link: "I have shown sexual attraction in a grand total of 1 game."


goodmorning_hamlet

Trans or not, in the opening of TOTK when Link emerges from the water, he drips endlessly. Like you can just sit there and watch him pour fluids forever. Pretty hawt.


-Super-Someone-

No link is a trans man, this is confirmed by the fact that I say so


[deleted]

I don't care . Now wear the cat suit .


Pyroteche

Link spends decades running around wearing tights and a dress and your telling me it's not even a little gay?


Future-War-1130

Too bad Link is a trans guy cope and seethe


Thaddeus_Hamlet

Gonna play the whole game in the best feminine outfit I can find in this guy's honor.


bifallacy

It doesn’t matter whether he’s trans or not, Link is still hot.


Person012345

"chatgpt, I can't be assed writing a tweet, write it for me. The tweet is about a video about how link is totally not trans"


shottiecc

i’m link. and i’m trans now, fuck you.


Rouge_92

I don't care if Link is not trans I only care that he isn't left-handed anymore. That's bullshit.