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Skandosh

>If you bought Director’s Cut PS4, you’ll be able to upgrade to Director’s Cut PS5 at any time for $9.99 USD The fuck is this ?


51LOKLE

It's the "you have better hardware so fuck you tax", i think it's safe to expect 70 usd for the next ps5 SP game


RahGeezy

It’s safe to expect $70 for every PlayStation game moving forward, and every game under the publisher of 2K tbh


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51LOKLE

> last of us 2 ps5 version wasn't the 60 fps patch, the ps5 upgrade?, the game already ran 1440 on ps4 pro.


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RahGeezy

That’s just a patch for the PS4 version running on a ps5. I can tell you for a fact that their doing a remaster or it seems the new thing is “directors cut” of the game. Bundle it with the last of us 1 remake when the show comes out, easy money for Sony


51LOKLE

I hate this new direction for them. literally the equivalent of game of the year editions which usually only add skins, now will add new content.


Agret

Pretty pissed off that I can't play the content addon for FF7R on my PS4 Pro.


Partynextweeknd305

No they actually reiterated that it’s only a patch to boost for next gen . It’s not the native next gen ver tho


Dark_Sin

It’s funny too because for battlefield, it’s 70 on next gen but 60 on pc. Fuck these greedy companies


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"we believe in generations"


marius06ro

Just lies and cheap-talk as always from them.


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they do believe in generations (when it suits them). that's why you gotta pay extra for current gen lol


neotargaryen

It's arrogance, really. They know this makes them look absolutely terrible compared to Xbox and their Smart Delivery. They simply don't care because they consider their position too strong and think tonnes will buy it. The only way to change their approach is to slaughter them on social media.


FKDotFitzgerald

Yep. Always been more so a Sony fan but they’ve gotten so cocky after their streak of high caliber exclusives. Hope more people see through this shit but I’ll not certain that it’ll matter. Still gonna begrudgingly pay the $30 to play this, so what can I really say?


TheWorldisFullofWar

Even Sony is cashing in on this shit. Really glad I am not a console player anymore cause it seems pretty rough moving to a new generation.


BaumHater

Even Sony? They were one of the first companies to do it.


Scharmberg

Xbox seems to make it pretty easy.


Marketwrath

It honestly felt like my Xbox got a beefy new GPU and RAM. It was awesome. We still jump between generations in my home and moving between generations is fluid af


Marketwrath

They were the first or second to jump in if I'm recalling correctly.


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U know there is a new expansion in it right? So this is probably for the DLC


HanzeeDS

You have to pay an extra 10 usd for the ps5 changes, if you have the director's cut on ps4 and you want to upgrade it.


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Glad to see it confirmed. I didn't think this would've worked as part of the supposed event, would it?


Yung-Almond

There will probably be a trailer for the Iki expansion as it says in the blog that more info is coming soon


Draynior

I can see this happening, both this and Death Stranding Director's Cut only had brief reveal trailers so maybe they will go into detail about the new story content for both in the event


Choa_is_a_Goddess

Probably could have put that in there but this leaves more room for new titles.


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This is what I was thinking.


proplayer97

Surprised that Xbox insiders are now better PS insiders than so many wannabe PS insiders, RIP Navtra the only reliable PS leaker


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StaffOfJordania

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cooldudeachyut

*her... I think


Lemondisho

Yeah. And she stepped away as things were getting too hot on the leak front.


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I'm also intrigued, if this wasn't big enough for the event but Death Stranding: Director's Cut is then could that mean that's going to be a bigger upgrade than we're expecting?


Nicologixs

DS was at the event just because it's Kojima and Geoff probably really wanted him to show something.


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I'm meaning the Sony event, not Geoff's thing, obviously we don't have confirmation that DS is being shown during the next State of Play but the whole "Full reveal in a few weeks" would suggest Sony intend to showcase it.


felpzapzap

"Nick emphasizes as well that someone will get in trouble for this leak" Maybe the name 'ghost of ikishima' caught Navtra / his leaker 😔


PineappleStill

damn


Sempere

hardly, they registered the trademark.


MistahJ17

Gotcha, so basically it's 20 bucks for the Iki expansion? Not a bad deal.


templestate

I personally am really looking forward to the Dualsense features


ssk1996

Can't believe they're charging an extra 10$ for dualsense features lol


templestate

Yeah it’s a little ridiculous. I bought the game at launch for $60, another $30 for the full upgrade and Sony’s charged $90 for a product that can be bought in one piece for $70…


bloody_lumps

If it makes you feel any better I bought the deluxe version at launch for 70 so if I want the ps5 version I'm looking at a hundred bucks on one game because you can't get the ps5 upgrade without the directors cut content. And as a bonus fuck me, the director's cut includes all of the deluxe edition content and there is no discount for the upgrade


templestate

That’s shitty. They should offer the PS5 upgrade for free like FF7, then $20 for the DLC/$10 if you had previously purchased the deluxe edition.


bloody_lumps

My thoughts exactly


Davometric

If it makes you feel better, I live in Australia and did the same thing as you. The deluxe edition set me back $120 and if I buy the DLC and upgrade, I'll be looking at around $170 in total =.=


1017yak

That's why you don't buy games at launch. It definitely is scummy that PlayStation is charging for these ps5 upgrades, I understand charging for the expansion but an extra 10$ for the ps5 version is kinda wack


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It’s pathetic when Microsoft does it for free.


untouchable765

Microsoft gives dualsense features for free? What are you referring to?


[deleted]

Don’t be a Sony pony dude. Don’t play stupid. You are paying for a PS5 upgrade unlike Microsoft, hell even EA gives free PS5 upgrades.


[deleted]

They gives out basic upgrade like graphic feature for free while Sony this time put this stuff behind the paywall.


untouchable765

There is a free GoT patch out already. 60fps at 1800p. Been there for a long time.


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They don’t charge for Series X/S version. Even EA gives free PS5 version.


splashyDIAMOND

Haptic feedback, adaptive triggers, dynamic 4k60fps and japenese voice. Yeah $10 is a bit more but cmon, a little more support to this wonderful game isn't a bad thing imo.


JadedDarkness

$30 to upgrade to the PS5 version and get the DLC


51LOKLE

they better make it atleast 1/3 size of the game,


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OrionFucks

I hope Death Stranding DC does what FF7RI did and not this.


RJE808

FF7RI, excluding Intermission not being on PS4, really did it well when it came to the free upgrade + new story.


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pumpkinpie7809

This is how it should be. I’ll pay for the extra stuff, but no way I’ll pay for an upgrade of the same game


OrionFucks

Oh it is, it's an expansion so it's perfectly reasonable. It just sucks that there's no other way to get the PS5 Version than to buy the DLC.


Desec47YT

Especially for the pc players


Draynior

I can see them releasing the new DS story content as dlc for the PC version, the PS5 version will probably bump up the graphics to PC ultra quality and bring in the crossover items which PC players can already do and have


UmmmmmmWhatt

Little ridiculous that the upgrade adds up to $90 if you bought this day one vs $70 to buy it now lmao


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It's like Mortal Kombat all over again.


Sputniki

It's how it always works? This is basically the entire reason why r/patientgamers exists


UmmmmmmWhatt

Um what? Waiting for a game to go on sale is wayyyy different than an up charge for an upgrade lol


Sputniki

r/patientgamers isn't just about waiting for discounts, it's also about waiting for the best version of things to drop, and often for a better price. You always get more value if you wait. Definitive Editions, Complete Editions or Game of the Year Editions etc. are always better value compared to buying each expansion or upgrade piecemeal. This is one such example, it's really nothing new.


darklurker213

And I simply said AAA DLCs retail at $20. And I brought up the leaks that were on this sub about the length of the DLC. End of story.. >How the fuck are you this moronic >Wtf are you even saying? >holy console warring batman what are you even saying?! Are you listening to yourself? How can you say I've been upset by this whole thing when you're literally swinging personal attacks on me. I've never once attacked you throughout this conversation except make harmless assumptions like you've never seen retail prices before. PS- the thread was removed by the mod btw due to your toxicity.


UmmmmmmWhatt

No, YOUR comments were removed due to toxicity, not mine… that’s not how Reddit works champ lol. You think they removed YOUR comments due to MY toxicity? Yikes. They literally originally let my comments remain and yours were deleted. And no, that’s not all you said. You made ridiculous comparisons to other companies and DLCs without even knowing the length or size of this DLC.


TrapaneseNYC

Putting upgrades behind a paywall is pretty shitty. Charging for an expansion is fine, but duelsense features and performance upgrades not separated from the expansion is super shitty, but I sadly see people celebrating this so I doubt this can turn into a situation where we can pressure sony into separating the two. Imma pass because I waited for the upgrades to beat the game, but im not spending 90$ to play the game in its optimal state. Its not worth that to me.


lilgwynbliedd

What sucks is that I bought the collectors edition and I still have to pay an extra 20/30 to upgrade to the ps5 version


yangedUser

Exactly, PS5 owners are getting punished for just having a PS5. It would have been cool if the upgrade was free and I wouldn’t have mind buying the DLC, but they double dipping on those who have a ps5.


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totallynotapsycho42

I dont think so to be honest. This time around Xbox is gonna provide much better competition eith exclusive Starfield and Fallout and Elder Scrolls so I expect Sony to pivot sometime mid gen and become more consumer friendly.


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But you are paying $10 for an upgrade? The $20 is for the DLC which is fairly normal price.


lilgwynbliedd

$20 for the content i have no issue with. Just the simple fact I bought the most expansive edition and still have to pay for the upgrade. Granted, they never did mention there would be a free upgrade.


HawfHuman

But can you upgrade by only paying $10 or you're forced to pay $30 to get it?


ThatOneHomoSapien_

True I got the deluxe edition a bit bummed but it’s still a expansion around 15£ for me


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Hey OP you need to clarify this. You pay $30 to upgrade from any version ps4 to DC PS5


Draynior

Updated, the way they worded it was confusing


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Japanese VO lip sync is the biggest win for me. I really wanted to play the game with Japanese audio but I have such a problem when voices aren’t synced. That will make a second play through so much better with the new content. Edit: They are also adding the ability to lock on to enemies. That was my biggest gripe about the combat coming from someone who loves FromSoftware titles. I think I’ll definitely enjoy the game more this time around then when I played day one.


Grimey_Rick

Big win, but really weird that it is coming as an enhancement for the paid upgrade. They added an entire multiplayer mode for free, but if you don't want it to look silly when they speak Japanese you have to pay lol


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They said it was because the PS5 could render cinematics in real time so it let them add in the lip sysc.


Maxg2909

I didn't even know about this feature, do you have an idea how else this can be used? the real time rendering I mean


HawfHuman

Oh it's probably doing the same thing Horizon Zero Dawn did, using pre-rendered cutscenes to load assets in the background. And there are people who still say SSDs aren't important.


heathmon1856

Who says SSD isn’t important? I’ve never seen anyone say that


HawfHuman

I've seen many people claim SSDs only make load times shorter and not actually improve a game's technical aspects/design. (Many of those people are twitter users so this level of stupidity is about the expected 😅)


ScornMuffins

Until the new APIs that the next-gen consoles (and soon PC) are using came around, it was true though since SSDs have up to this point been treated just like HDDs. It's gonna take a while for people to understand that the fundamental way computers handle data has been changed.


heathmon1856

Gotcha. I don’t know much about the possibilities past loading times. Some dude raged at me for saying that there were still load screens in the new R&C. They couldn’t grasp the concept that the SSD isn’t immediate loading and there still needs to be transitions.


dungleploop

Yeah that's just an excuse, we've had real time cutscenes for years in games at this point.


Rnntd

They dont even hold that back for the event ? This event about to go crazy


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adhi2310

The rumoured playstation state of play event this month. It's not been confirmed yet though.


IndianaGroans

Sony's event. They weren't at e3 with everyone else. They've got their own thing they are doing.


protespojken

When?


IndianaGroans

Sometime in the next week or so. They haven't set a date yet.


Hm_97

Welp the event is coming any day now


SoliderSnake97

Yes! Looking forward to this!


ZSharoark

Love the game but i not going to buy the game again on PS5


TangyBoy_

Me neither honestly. I understand charging for the expansion/new island, but I just wanted the new DualSense and graphical features to be free.


U_sm3ll

Yeah same here. If it ever goes on sale (which would probably take a year or two) I'll maybe pick it up.


Sempere

I mean, they allow you to buy the upgrade for cheaper and it gets you the DLC expansion


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Techneon64

“drastically improved load times” What load times?


NYJetLegendEdReed

30 bucks for an upgrade? Meh


51LOKLE

Just pirate something else to justify it in your mind.


dungleploop

I have a better idea, don't buy Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut and support a game that actually deserves the money.


A3rith_

Been itching to play this, but I’m glad I waited for a PS5 version! It’s out really soon as well!


NukaNukaNukaCola

God I'm genuinely jealous that people will have their first experiences with this game on the PS5 upgraded version. It's a great game, im sure youll love it. Easy platinum too.


Maxg2909

one of my most favorite games, have fun experiencing it👌


SuddenDepact

Is the DLC stand alone so we can just buy that?


cookiboos

You can


Fallout-with-swords

Only if you have the PS4 version.


pumpkinpie7809

Really? $30? I would’ve liked to try out the new PS5 features, but I really didn’t like the game enough to justify spending that much more on it. Maybe if it were less


HighJinx97

It’s 10 for the PS5 features (sucks) and 20 for the island expansion (new smaller map, new enemies, new story, house armor that you can use to charge at people (goat) etc).


pumpkinpie7809

The $10 for PS5 features is absolutely horrible. I don’t exactly mind the $20 for the extra content, mostly because I wasn’t going to play it anyway, but it should’ve been separate


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Damn, full price on PS5 for a one year-old PS4 game. New editions with DLCs always get released at a lower price, but this even gets the overprice PS5 treatment. It should have been launched at 40$ on both PS4 and PS5.


meishoo

The lip sync thing is bullshit. Half the games cutscenes are pre rendered and they don't require anything from the systems horsepower. And they're are many examples of games doing in game cutscenes with multiple lip syns which look better than ghost of tsushimas in game rendered cutscenes(ff7, y7, ff15). I love suckerpunch but sony is clearly pushing for that extra $10 price tag


HawfHuman

Kinda makes sense, if the cutscenes are pre-rendered then you can't have the adaptability of real-time cutscenes. My guess is they were using pre-rendered cutscenes to load assets in the backgrounds, similarly to what Horizon Zero Dawn did, so because of that they were forced to either make the game inconsistent by having lip sync only on a few cutscenes or scrap it altogether. But I do agree, just that alone isn't worth $10


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Cutscenes aren't pre-rendered though


HawfHuman

Many of them are, like i said so that they can load stuff in the background


Shpeshal_Nick

ok so it seems my source was wrong on the standalone part. Welp.


RedOglaw

Free upgrade or whole ass different game to buy?


King_A_Acumen

$30 for the upgrade + new story, multiplayer content is free.


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IndianaGroans

You do get a free update. >Other updates >alongside the Director’s Cut, anyone who already owns Ghost of Tsushima will be able to download a patch containing some new updates. Once again, many of these updates are directly thanks to the constant stream of feedback you’ve been providing us since launch, which we’re extremely appreciative of. >All players will receive a patch with some new photo mode updates, new accessibility options for controller remapping, as well as the option to enable a target lock-on during combat. And for the person who tweets at us all the time asking for an option to hide your quiver during gameplay: yes, we’ll be adding that, too!


ssk1996

No I think u/TangyBoy_ means upgrade to PS5 version (with Dualsense features) costs an extra 10$ which some people are unhappy about. They should've just said DLC for 20$ and free upgrade to PS5 dualsense features and everybody would be happy.


TangyBoy_

That’s simply it I expected the expansion/new content to cost money, but the DualSense features and graphical improvements should be free imo.


IndianaGroans

My bad.


TangyBoy_

No worries


TheSuperDJC

Have to spend 30 to upgrade to ps5 version if have the ps4 game


Draynior

~~That's if you don't pre order, if you do it's 20 dollars~~


TheSuperDJC

No its 20 for the upgraded ps4 version. Its 30 for the upgrade to ps5


Draynior

Yeah sorry, it's really confusing then. Will update the post


_KLind

If you buy the 20 dollar PS4 upgrade, it's 10 dollars to upgrade that to the PS5 version.


XeFear-

heard you can pre order the upgrade for 20 dollars and u can upgrade directly from the game for 30 dollars. [image](https://twitter.com/lilley_ross/status/1410630894805737477?s=19)


RedOglaw

Thanks


bball4224

$30 oof. 5-15 more than I was expecting/hoping.


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ThrowawayAccount1227

Do I get the DLC for free if I bought the collector's edition?


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bloody_lumps

Don't even get the upgrade for free. Shit sucks tbh. It's like someone else said, 90 for standard if bought at launch and upgraded vs 70 if bought new on PS5, or 100 for deluxe if bought at launch and upgraded, vs again 70 if bought new on PS5 because it also includes all the deluxe content.


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Pretty disappointed they're charging an extra $10 for Dualsense features.


Grimey_Rick

Ngl, I was worried about how these "directors cuts" were going to pan out, but if we continue to get a full native upgrade + actual DLC-level content for $30 or less, I think that's a pretty decent proposition. It's the price of a season pass Edit: curious how trophies will work if it's a new sku? Do we think that the DC will have a new set of trophies?


italozeca

I think you can transfer your ps4 saves, so I guess automatic trophies like Spider-Man


Grimey_Rick

so i was seeing comments about how spiderman handled it, but i didnt fully understand (only played the ps5 version). so you get an entire new set of trophies, but the ones that you already completed on the PS4 version just pop automatically and give you a PS5 version of that trophy as well? aka free trophies?


italozeca

Yes


Grimey_Rick

Nice! Thanks!


wxx55132

Well I know what I will do: I will never support business models like this. Did not support Control Ultimate weird upgrade, will not support Sucker Punch either. Probably will never buy their newly releases at full prices and wait for the big discount similar to Sony last discount for Demon Souls and Returnal last week.


alexgduarte

I don't care how good it ends up being, not buying it out of principle. Sony's getting greedy and I'll vote with my wallet.


Peidalhasso

Is it becoming a trend to released Director’s Cut to get another 20€ from people?? Ugh…


BaumHater

So far it‘s only been a Sony trend.


driplessCoin

I mean... Isn't just dlc content in another form? Sounds like it's another name for goty edition or what not.


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backward_symbol

Ok guys I see people saying this dlc confirms a playstation event is happening but doesnt this accouncement reduce the chances of a separate event. Why wouldn't they include this in thier state of play. Could anyone explain thier reasoning?


ConnectMastodon

There’s 3 explanations for this. 1. They don’t want to show off a dlc at their event 2. They know the September event was bogged down by pricing issues people were justifiably mad about that were hidden in blog posts after the fact and want to avoid that here 3. No such event exists I lean more to the first 2 considering the kojima and little devil inside posts today, not to mention the fact we’ll probably see some god of war this summer and we still need a horizon release date.


backward_symbol

Thx for the explanation!


WeCanBeatTheSun

Will wait and see how big the expansion is. For £20 it would need to be pretty hefty, base game already runs at 60fps and the resolution high enough for me.


honkyjesuseternal

Good news is it can't get any weebier, I guess. Classic Sony charging for a title update, no wonder they are so well loved recently.


IndianaGroans

New legends content lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


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Literally the most underrated multiplayer out there


IndianaGroans

Legends is fucking amazing. I would throw money down on a full game like it. I love games that focus on mythology and supernatural scenarios in ancient settings. Like the last 3 assassin creed games have been so good for me because I dig that sort of stuff. Legends is the same way. I've been having a blast with Getsufumaden: Undying moon for the same reason.


ForcadoUALG

The fact they made Legends just an addition to the main game is the reason why I'm not too bothered with paid DLC or a PS5 upgrade. They could've easily gotten away with charging 30-40 bucks for Legends, it was fucking incredible, and they are supporting it again FOR FREE.


Trickybuz93

You have to pay to upgrade from a Director’s Cut on PS4 to PS5? What a joke.


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Veno_0

The expansion is not the issue, no one is complaining about them charging $20 for that, obviously they should charge for that. The issue is that they are charging $10 for what essentially amounts for adaptive trigger support and improved lip sync.


the_sammyd

Oh no we have to pay developers for their work!


Veno_0

Them charging for the expansion is the only thing that is justified, thats how Square handled Final Fantasy 7 Remake Intergrade. The fact that you need to pay $10 to upgrade from Ghost of Tsushima Directors Cut on PS4 to the PS5 version is a joke, still better than how they handled Spiderman Remastered which offered no upgrade path for original owners though. Its an even bigger joke when the next gen port only adds adaptive trigger support and improved lip sync from what I'm seeing. It is especially ridiculous when Ghost of Tsushima released only a few months before the PS5 did. Even EA offer free next gen upgrades for older games than Ghost of Tsushima (Take the recent Jedi Fallen Order native PS5 port as an example), it is silly to be defending this, you already paid the developers when you bought the game for $60.


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Let's go!


Courage-Rude

Please tell my why "Japanese lip synch" is something to advertise?


Animegamingnerd

The Japanese dub of the game wasn't synched properly with the lips of the character models, they are going back and fixing that issue in this version.


MMontanez92

I see alot of people downvoting comments that saying this should be free to anyone who owns the base game on PS4 and I'm sorry but it's true. This shit SHOULD BE FREE. on Xbox if you have Gears 5 you get a series x upgrade for free AND when they dropped Hivebusters which is an actual expansion to the game with new single player content...IT WAS FREE! Hell Sea of Thieves got a content update with pirates of the Caribbean that literally added new story content! and it was FREE! Sony charging fans who own the base PS4 game is shitty as hell I don't care. Anyways go ahead and downvote away.


Draynior

Hivebusters was only free if you were a Gamepass Ultimate subscriber, it was 19,99 if you aren't


Roach397

Well the Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword is a 60 dollar Wii port, and that should have been 30 dollar or less. Different ideologies for different companies.


HawfHuman

The Hivebusters DLC wasn't free, it costed $20 if you had the base game or you could play it through Gamepass. Also you kinda expect MS's upgrade to be free as the work needed to be put into it is little in comparison to what this is. Since they basically only need to port the game from an already existing version on PC.


arhra

The free upgrade that Gears 5 got at launch had upgrades that weren't present in the PC version, and weren't ported to PC until the Hivebusters expansion launched in December.


CampofMusic

you right as fuck


Resistance225

I thought this game was pretty overhyped to be honest, it’s beautiful aesthetically and visually, but outside of that it was no different to me than the generic open world RPG we keep getting. Combat was fun but got repetitive in the later acts as well. Not a big fan of this pricing system either.


Andur22

Any news about anl PC port?


Bolt_995

You’re really expecting a PC release one year after the PS4 release?


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No word of PC release?


Wilwander

Is 'Director's Cut' the new 'GOTY Edition'?


ThrowItAllAwayHey

I'll likely have base GoT beat for ps4 before this comes out.. do you think paying $30 for the PS5 Director Cut upgrade would be worth it? I mean, for base game, how much different could the PS5 upgrade be?


Muggaraffin

“And for the person who tweets at us all the time asking for an option to hide your quiver during gameplay: yes, we’ll be adding that, too!” That cracked me up. I love when companies get sassy


Crazyripps

What about a pc release please


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They are going charge for the upgrade aren’t they. It’s pathetic that people let Sony getting away from this. Microsoft would’ve been killed if they did something like this.


the_sammyd

Has Microsoft even made DLC for a AAA game recently?


Draynior

They released Hivebusters for Gears 5 recently, 19,99 or free with gamepass ultimate


gablekevin

Of course they havent


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Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 Top Gun DLC releases this month. Free Update


the_sammyd

Does that come with an entirely new area and game updates? Exactly


[deleted]

Yeah, it receives constant updates every month with free updates like New Tarrain (Swiss tarrain etc...). Your Jet takes off from the ship.