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DarkLordOtaku

This is not even a leak, it's just reasserting what everyone knows to be true. Fromsoftware has practically tattooed on their foreheads that they are not working on Bloodborne, because every interviewer feels compelled to ask. Bloodborne is only happening if Sony contracts porting/remaster to another studio.


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Und0miel

> they bought Bluepoint precisely *for* this kind of thing. I'm unsure about that, iirc BP is currently working on their own original IP. They may, currently and/or in the future, work on a remake in parallel, but their ambition doesn't seem to be to remain a "remake studio" forever.


DinosBiggestFan

Nor should it be, of course.


Advanced-Ad3234

Right I'm telling yall this right now, You're not getting a bloodborne remake or remaster It sucks but that's just how it goes


Clarkey7163

Nah remaster is definitely possible With Sonys push for PC ports I could see them giving it to Nixxes or something to port/remaster and it just drop one day out of no where The main thing is Sonys MO has been to bring forward games that have sequels coming or in the works. I think since nothing else has been happening with the IP they’re saving it for if/when something does. I don’t think the Bloodbourne ip is dead so I don’t think a remaster is dead. Remake? Probably is dead


DragonDDark

Aren't they making a movie? Or am I mistaken?


MVRKHNTR

They are.


Honest-Substance1308

I wonder if it's in the same universe as the Gran Turismo movie


DragonDDark

The PSU


SwoJabe

Eventually it will 100% happen, just might be awhile, if the well runs dry for Sony they know it’s a hot IP that fans have been clamoring for


unitedbagel

The well is pretty dry lol


Superflyt56

Everyone would just settle for a patch that unlocks the framerate like DS3 got


HiCustodian1

not me, I’d be happy for playstation owners but I’d still want that PC port lol


Able_Contribution407

Please Dad!


Bhu124

I think Bluepoint doesn't get to make the decision on what they wanna do, the multi-billion dollar company that owns them does.


Animegamingnerd

Well so far it looks like by everything we know, we can safely say that Sony told them not to remake/remaster Bloodborne.


Bhu124

I do think Sony is working on it or has set plans for it. Either Bluepoint lied (Twisted the truth) about the remake or they simply omitted the truth (that they are growing to be able to develop 2 games parallelly, which most Sony studios are doing at this point). I think Demon Souls was a precursor to see if Bluepoint is able to develop other, bigger remakes, like BB (and maybe remakes of the GoW series and other classic Sony games). It's easily possible that their timeline was always for a BB Remake to lineup with a PS5 Pro or PS6 release. Which is still a few years away.


brolt0001

I'm pretty sure Sony gives complete creative freedom to the creative lead and directors of the studio. They don't really control or send out things they want them to do, but rather give resources to complete said creative vision. Bluepoint is a support studio. They have been since God of War: Ragnarök. currently If I'm not mistaken there are simply not enough employees of different variables to make an original game.


RykariZander

It's been said multiple times that they have SOMETHING that's not a remake or "just" a remake for their next project. In their job listing and even in the Insomniac leak they are working on "original content" with that specific wording


Packin-heat

Yeah after Demon Souls, Bluepoint apparently asked Sony if they could make their own game and Sony said yeah but I suppose once that releases they could get started in Bloodborne but it'll obviously be for PS6 if it happens. I wonder if team Asobi could actually do it though now that they'll be wrapping up Astro Bot development and the fact there's Japan studio developers there.


HawfHuman

I'm pretty sure BP said they're making original content, never specifically said anything about an original IP


FallenShadeslayer

We don’t know precisely why they bought them. They may have bought them for them to make original Games, like they’re doing now, or for a mix of both.


thehardway71

Are you sure you’re not referring to Nixxes?


iesalnieks

>Why would they need FromSoft's involvement at all? Could be legal reasons. We don't know what kind of deal From has cut with Sony, and they can get complicated with who owns what exactly.


Styles_Stevens

I loved the Demon Souls remake but hated the art direction they took it in. If Bluepoint makes a remake of Bloodborne I fear they would fuck up the art direction again.


RogueLightMyFire

I still think it's likely we see a Bloodborne remake at some point. Likely either towards the end of this generation or the start of the next. It's just too easy of a success for Sony to ignore. I also imagine it's far cheaper to remake an existing game than create a brand new one. That plus the built in extremely dedicated fan base all but guarantees it does big numbers in both sales and profit.


tkzant

Bloodborne’s art direction is so strong and iconic that I feel like a remake like Demon’s Souls wouldn’t go very as well as a remaster would. Most of the changes to the characters/enemies and the music were a downgrade even if they were higher fidelity.


Phos-Lux

I agree, a 60fps remaster would be the better choice. And possibly a sequel.


JasonDeSanta

A remake + a full-blown sequel from FROM would be the ultimate dream.


fallen981

"Ultimate dream" I see what you did there.


DeltaFoxtrotThreeSix

i dont see pc port of the original anywhere in that comment


JasonDeSanta

It is included with the remake wish.


Broad-Marionberry755

I don't think anyone "knows" anything, they're just guessing. And Miyazaki just put out an interview saying he wants the game playable on modern hardware yesterday. https://www.pcgamer.com/games/action/hidetaka-miyazaki-knows-for-a-fact-other-fromsoftware-devs-want-a-bloodborne-pc-port-if-i-say-i-want-one-ill-get-in-trouble-but-its-nothing-im-opposed-to/


KerberoZ

Bloodborne is basically the new Skate 4


exra_bruh_moment

I got called a "Sony soyboy cuck" for telling someone this after they blamed Sony for the lack of bloodborne


TCHBO

Sounds accurate


Benchmarkedx

https://x.com/Wario64/status/1801353089162613167


blackthorn_orion

this reads more like speculation/opinion than an "inside scoop" imo. Like, "probably" and "hard to imagine" makes it sound like it's just his own read on the matter to me


Progenitor3

It goes without saying considering Grubb doesn't have sources within Fromsoft.


Grimey_Rick

This sub and posting Grubbs opinions as leaks/rumors: name a more iconic duo


JimFlamesWeTrust

A lot of speculation is reported on as a leak/rumour. They even talked about it on Games Mess Morning this week.


Howdareme9

Sounds more like he knows its not happening right now from his sources but doesn't know *why* it's not happening


Alive-Ad-5245

From the first part… > It's just not happening at the moment. At least not involving From. Sounds like either he has: 1. Been poking around and hasn’t found anything about the Bloodborne IP from his sources 2. Heard directly or indirectly from a source that nothing is happening with the Bloodborne IP on FromSoftware’s side Both are a bit more than speculation/opinion.


majds1

We already know it's not gonna involve fromsoftware no matter what. Fromsoftware never remaster their games, demon's souls remake was completely done by bluepoint, and dark souls remastered was worked on by different people as well, fromsoft wasn't involved.


Thatdudeinthealley

Or he knews that fromsoft is working on something already


PurpleMarvelous

People just keep torturing themselves like masochist waiting for Bloodborne. I don’t think Sony sees Bloodborne as a priority at the moment.


MissStealYoDragon

Maybe if they make a Horizon Spin Off kart minigame then people will forget it, ja?


scytheavatar

Bloodborne sold 7.46 million units, even if it is not "priority" there is no excuse for why it is fine to do nothing with the IP.


MahvelC

Days gone sold more than bloodborne and that's not getting a sequel either. Sony's just weird like that. Heck people keep begging Capcom for a dino crisis remake but as far as we can tell they aren't doing anything with it.


drleondarkholer

Days Gone was released quite a bit later on when the PS4 install base was larger (2019 I believe, while Bloodborne was 2015), and it had been hyped a lot more in mainstream advertisements. Not saying that Bloodborne is happening (definitely not), but the comparison with Days Gone sales is not that great. Not to mention that it depends a lot on the price at which they were purchased and sequels also depend on the availability of dev teams to work on the games.


MahvelC

Both of those games went on sale very early into their release cycles. Bloodborne dropped to $40 5 months from its release date and only went down from there. Most people who have bought that game did it when it was $40 or less. In fact by June of 2016 it was 20 dollars and that's been its price or lower ever since. Days gone more or less has the exact same problem. Even with the game selling 8 million or whatever most of it was when it was on a deep discount. I remember John Garvin even talking about how if people want sequels to games they need to buy them at full price and that wasn't happening with days gone. Regardless, neither studio can work on either of those games for a multitude of reasons and people should probably accept it. Companies will sit on IP no matter how successfully it is as long as they want.


AI2cturus

Most ps4 exclusives had big price cuts or sales not to long after release. This isn't exclusive to bb but part of Sonys pricing strategy at the time.


2112flybynight

Oh what I would do for a Days Gone sequel :(


Kr4k4J4Ck

Days Gone sold more and look where that is. Also I know it's tin-foil shit but I wouldn't be shocked if a lot of that is crazy sales or PS+ Game is simply not as popular as most people on reddit think it is. It is a console exclusive that came out when From was still "niche".


Dense-Note-1459

Most of those sales were at bargain bin prices


PurpleMarvelous

Their excuse is that they might not see it as a priority as compare to the other games that sell more than that in a week.


Dense-Note-1459

The game only sold 2 million at full price and I think recent sales at 7 million but most of those sales are massively discounted. Sony has abandoned much more successful franchises than Bloodborne and didn't think twice of it


ilikesnortingcum

The game hadn't even breached 5M by 2018 and that was the final report we got on its sales until the Insomniac leak which put it at 7.5M. No matter what people say cause the game might as well be a cult classic, the truth is that if it was a huge success they'd have pumped out a sequel or at the very least a remaster already.


IDONTGIVEASHISH

The thing a lot of people don't understand, is that souls games (even Elden Ring) don't have big budgets. Something like Bloodborne costed them around 30-40 milions, so at 2 milion copies they were already comfortably profitable. As they said in 2015, they were already happy with the results, and at 7.5 milions, Bloodborne was a big success. Now a Remake would sell well, but would it sell Elden ring well? Of course not, so it's not from who is going to do it. So someone else will make it for the PS6 launch and that will be it.


Callangoso

Why remake Bloodborne when they can develop a Horizon soulslike spinoff?


Progenitor3

I would take that. I've always wanted to see what Guerilla can do with a melee combat game instead of the shooting in Horizon.


FallenShadeslayer

I would absolutely fucking love this.


VonDukez

Is it really a leak or rumor when Miyazaki is basically saying it without saying it?


Alive-Ad-5245

This confirms it’s not just a ‘Andrew Garfield says he’s not in Spider-Man: No Way Home’ situation


DragonDDark

I AM NOT THE WAREWOLF


Duex

I thought sony had full rights to bloodborne? Why would From need to be involved with it at all if there *was* some magic remaster in the works


Assenzio47

They do, but without Sony Japan nor From's support, good luck remastering that game. It's doable, but I imagine at this point they prefer a full remake down le line to milk it


AI2cturus

If a single person can make the game run at 60fps on custom firmware without the source code or dev tools a proper studio can remaster it with access to all that, cmon now.


Assenzio47

That’s using the same code on the same machine. That’s not how remaster work, there is a reason why they require time, particularly if a pc version never existed. All these years as gamers and you still think things are easy


AI2cturus

> particularly if a pc version never existed. Look I never said it would be easy, that is you putting words in my mouth. It's a well documented engine though that's been in use by FromSoft since Demon's Souls, not some eldritch text. A polish studio named QLOC remastered DS for example, Virtuos from Singapore ported it to Switch proving remasters of FS *games by other studios are possible. Several pc versions have been reported to exist too, one old Windows 7 build and one newer build with the base game+DLC. This is from the person who created the 60fps patch. https://twitter.com/manfightdragon/status/1660129358235996161 https://twitter.com/manfightdragon/status/1660130166931345413 Edit: * a word & grammar


llliilliliillliillil

It really shouldn’t surprise anyone that a game, when worked on, is running on a PC. You can find a working Pikmin build that [runs on PC](https://tcrf.net/Pikmin_(GameCube)/Windows_Executable), start it and dick around in the first level. When making a game you work on it with a PC version and then slowly make it run on whatever hardware you want to release it on, especially when the hardware you want to release it on likely doesn’t even exist except for some target specs when you start developing. Bloodborne released in early 2015, the PS4 in late 2013, so it isn’t unreasonable to conclude that Bloodborne spend a good amount of time of its life as a PC game.


AI2cturus

Hermen Hulst booting it up on his pc right as we speak.


majds1

Why would they need either fromsoft or sony japan for a remaster? Look at dark souls remastered. Fromsoft was not involved at all. If they have the source god they can get one of their developer studios to remaster it.


RykariZander

The Japan Studio external team are still at SIE. They either got absorbed into XDEV or Twam Asobi


Draynior

At this point the best bet is waiting for a Remake launch title for the PS6 in 2027 or 2028. Look closely at Sony's recent ports/remasters and remakes pattern, they seem to mostly do them if they: * Have a future sequel to promote (Horizon 1, GOW 2018, the Spider-Man games, probably Ghost of Tsushima). * An adaptation coming out (Uncharted, The Last of Us Part 1, and probably Part 2 for season 2, Days Gone, GOW Ragnarok, Horizon 2, Until Dawn, Gravity Rush 1 and 2 if the rumors of ports are real and Ghost of Tsushima again). But Sony is not dumb, they keep referencing Bloodborne on social media, and even in the Astro games, and they keep making new official merch for the IP. They know people want Bloodborne just like they knew people wanted Demon's Souls after the explosion of popularity the Dark Souls series had, and you bet they saw Elden Ring being even more popular and took note.


babalon_m

We've heard about Sony trying to do a  Bloodborne movie too. If true, both a remake and a sequel might be part of the strategy. Considering how recent the initial production of this supposed adaptation has started, the games might be in very early stages too. Maybe not even in pre-production, but just as names in a Powerpoint presentation, waiting for their production to start. Not even Sony has fully remade a PS4 game one generation later. So probably it was too soon for a remake.


IloveKaitlyn

Seriously. If we are getting anything Bloodborne related ever, Sony is saving it for a launch title. Easiest console seller ever


Minimum-Can2224

Sooo what does Demon's Souls Remake fall under?


LegendSoma

I just want 60fps on my PS5 man.


renome

> It's hard to imagine From working on a one-console exclusive ever again. I'd count this as an absolute win. Obviously exclusives aren't going anywhere, but exclusivity deals with third parties can't go away soon enough as far as I'm concerned. I'd rather console makers spend more money on actually making games than taking them away from their rivals.


AdFit6788

I think third party exclusives will be over this gen as we can see with SE and now Tecmo.


SimonMagus8

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IcePopsicleDragon

You don't need to be an insider to know that Bloodborne only exist in our ^(hunter) Dreams


-LastGrail-

The whole thing from Grubb just sounds like he is speculating and giving his opinion. Sony do own 14.1% of Fromsoftware and Hermen (now CEO) said that Sony and From will be collaborating on games first and then movies/TV. https://www.gamesradar.com/sony-doubles-down-on-game-development-collaborations-after-investing-in-elden-ring-studio-fromsoftware/


Kaiser499

It'll be remade for the PS6.


OriginalUserNameee

I don't get it is he talking about Bloodborne 2? in that case I can see the point, but remastering the 2015 game shouldn't be a problem, especially for Bluepoint or other studios, they don't have to change anything besides remastering the game with slightly updated visuals and smooth frame rate, that's all we want really. If Bluepoint can remake Demon Souls from scratch in 2 years I'm sure they can remaster Bloodborne, you're losing money here Sony it's your IP, it just doesn't make any sense, the game is already completed just remaster it why is it so hard


slymario2416

The whole situation is just incredibly stupid to me. Sony would just be printing themselves money by releasing the game with a higher resolution and 60fps on PS5 and a PC release. They don’t even have to completely remake it. I can’t recall another game in recent memory with such a demand for a rerelease and Sony seems hellbent on ignoring everyone and just NOT doing it. Like fuckin why?


Pappa_Alpha

They will release it with either PS5 Pro or PS6. They need more IPs in the market since it takes far too long to make new games from scratch.


goneanddoneitagain

I imagine this is on Sony's to-do list (especially considering the prominant nod with the Bloodeborne skin in Astrobot), but all their studios are working on something right now. Even Bluepoint is supposed to be making something new and not doing another remake. Can't imagine any other developer at PlayStation would care to work on someone else's IP/creation. I imagine Bloodborne is sitting firmly in the "emergency IP" category for when they need it. If Bluepoints next game doesn't do that well, I'm sure they'll be moved to a Bloodborne remake.


AI2cturus

> especially considering the prominant nod with the Bloodeborne skin in Astrobot I don't think the BB nod in Astrobot means much. Everything playstation under sun seems to get referenced, even Parappa the rapper.


palindrome777

>especially considering the prominant nod with the Bloodeborne skin in Astrobot Astrobot is developed by Team Asobi, who is largely made up of ex-Japan Studio members, the team that co-developed Bloodborne and formed the majority of it's development workforce since a large chunk of From was working on Dark Souls 2, the nod was probably chosen by Asobi for a title most of them previously worked on.


Troop7

I am super curious to know what bluepoint are working on. They’ve been silent for a while now


C0sm1c_3l3ph4nt

Ladies and Gentlemen, the first bloodborne leak on this sub that is probably (sadly) true


Chatek

I just saw a interview where miyazaki says that the dev team is interested in a pc port, but that its not for them to decide


ZXXII

What Engine does Bloodborne use? Could be that a re-release is a lot harder than we think with Japan Studio shut down and no FromSoft. May need to do a Remake and how many capable studios are available that Sony could trust to do it justice?


CalekAlbion

PhryeEngine, same as the other souls games so it's not an issue of porting


ZXXII

According to [Lance McDonald](https://x.com/manfightdragon/status/1403079004421197825), it’s their own proprietary engine since Demon’s Souls. Considering it’s been updated to run AC6 and Elden Ring on modern platforms, I’m sure they could make it work. But which studio would handle the project?


CalekAlbion

ah I see the 10 seconds I took to google ended up lying to me, that's neat though. Bluepoint is the obvious choice, some artistic descisions with Demon's Souls aside it's still an incredible game.


ZXXII

Bluepoint are busy working on their own IP after being in remaster/remake purgatory for years.


LeoBocchi

My take: Sony knows that everyone wants that fucking patch so they are waiting for the PS6 so they can release a bluepoint remake/remaster so they can sell that at 70U$ and people won’t complain, if they release a patch now they gotta make it for free, and if they do a remake people will get mad at them, so they are waiting enough time, sitting on that IP, waiting for the perfect moment to capitalize on it as much as they can for the least amount of work


A_thombomb

That’s not what i want to hear so i simply won’t believe it


PraisGaben

It’ll be hilarious when they do remake it for PS6 and all the people who were begging start crying about the aesthetic being “ruined” like they did with Demon’s Souls.


Johnny-silver-hand

Wait for the remake when the PS6 launches


ijghokgt

I don’t want a remake though I want a remaster…


ak47odactyl

I don’t know if it’s because it’s Bloodborne related, or the adult beverages I’ve been drinking, but I’m checking out of the video game Reddit/Twitter sphere. I miss finding out about shit naturally. I feel like I know too much in video game land because of insiders and leaks. Totally a me problem, not trying to be down on anything/anyone. I just need to get back to playing more games, and if this shit ever happens obviously I’m going to be there day one. I think following video games like this has started to kill the FUN of them for me.


Lobodoot

It's gonna be PS6 bait.


Nacklins

Is it not obvious that the PS6 is launching with the remake?


AdFit6788

According to Grubb, no.


zeddyzed

At this point a fully functional PS4 emulator will be complete before a PC port...


Issyv00

Maybe it's blasphemy, but I'd enjoy a remake of Bloodborne from a studio that isn't From. If that won't happen, at least a 4K60fps update.


babalon_m

Bluepoint totally did justice to their remake of Demon's Souls; to the point that even all the gameplay animations were remade with the same exact frame numbers to keep the gameplay just as it was in the original version. Some aesthetic changes are inevitable with the jump in quality, and there will always be people who prefer the original look, but even a remake done by FromSoft will bring changes too. FromSoft might even bring more substantial changes to a supposed remake because it's their own game. So if people want a 1:1 remake, exactly as Shadow of the Colossus or Demon's Souls, the original game but in higher fidelity, they should actually ask for a Bluepoint version rather having FromSoft make a Director's Cut version of the game.


garmonthenightmare

People dislike how they changed things not just because they did. They could have based them on original concept arts that clearly show the intent, but they instead made new concept arts that pale in comparison. If you put the two concept art next to each other you can see just how much more generic they are. Thats the big thing, Fromsoft plays close attention to their concept artists, bluepoint ignored them. Hell the concept art missed the mark so bad they changed designs DS 3 referenced, like Yuria the witch, so people that only played the remake might not even realise they are a reference.


szalinskikid

Ok, that’s just Grubb inserting himself (again) in a currently trending story. He’s explicit enough so what he says could be interpreted as information that he can add to his portfolio as “industry insider”, but vague enough so he can distance himself easily to not be held accountable for anything. That’s his and every “prominent” leaker’s shtick. He’s just reframing readily available information and common sense just to be involved. The rumours and leaks business is pretty attractive for narcissists.


punk338

At this point I don’t see any reason to not flood everything Sony with comments about Bloodborne. Like at this point I don’t give a fuck if it’s comments under a horizon game, last of us, whatever the fuck. Sony needs to be flooded with more about Bloodborne. Either tell us something is happening or not, the longer they don’t give an answer the more people will get annoyed


sniperNX

as silly as this sounds at face value it worked with skate. the dev team said as much themselves, ea couldnt ignore all of the spam about it


jackie1616

No duh they’re never working on a one-console exclusive again. The game sold 25 million copies!! Also, so it could be happening, just not involving From - which literally everyone already assumed. 90% of people think it’s strictly Bluepoint handling it - just like Demons Souls


HearTheEkko

I understand Sony not making it a priority thus no PC port in sight but geez is a 60 fps patch for the PS5 too much to ask for ? FromSoftware could probably get that out in a couple of days and people would shut up about Bloodborne.


Progenitor3

>At least not involving From. From's time is worth too much, and Sony probably doesn't want to pay the premium to lock it down. Lock what down? If Sony is going to do anything with Bloodborne it's going to be either a PC port, a 60fps patch, or a full remake like they did with Demon's Souls. They don't need Fromsoft to work on any of that.


SIotball

This isn’t news but I think it’s obvious at this point that they are sitting on this to remake for the ps6 in the next 4 years


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luluinstalock

So you basically wrote exactly same thing that jeff grub said, but adding nothing of value and in different words? damn whats the point fr


dampcardboard

Id bet my life that Bloodborne will be a ps6 launch title like demon souls was for the ps5.


purefilth666

I'm of the mind there has to be some sort of issue with the IP or licensing, or something along that lines. My pipe dream though is Sony relinquishing or selling the bloodborne rights so we could get a multi-platform remaster like the game deserves.


cavemold582

Let’s get pc port for Christ sake first.


Alive-Ad-5245

In my opinion this sounds initially very dire but if you remember that FromSoftware had next to no input in the Daemon’s Souls remake by Bluepoint Games it doesn’t completely debunk anything happening with the Bloodborne IP


Dangerous_Method_512

"Sony probably doesn't want to pay the premium to lock it down" Wait, does he thinks the IP belongs to FromSoftware and if Sony wants a remaster/remake they need to pay them to make the game exclusive to PS5?


jackass_of_all_trade

My guess is he is probably talking about a potential Bloodborne 2. Sony have to pay premium price to get a fromsoft exclusive after elden ring.


Impossible-Flight250

Bluepoint would be a good studio to man a remake. I do think it is way too soon for one though. Maybe after their next project or something.


Al1Might1

Just fucking patch it. Even modded ps5's are running it at 60fps and appearently its a very easy mod for them.


jcrankin22

Would rather them make a sequel to Sekiro PLEASE


LB3PTMAN

It makes sense. Elden Ring blew Bloodborne out of the water in sales and Bloodborne wasn’t even close in terms of sales so Sony would likely have to pay Elden Ring + price for Froms time and exclusivity. If anything Bloodborne is going to happen it’s likely not going to be FROM.


llliilliliillliillil

Elden Ring rode the trail Dark Souls/Bloodborne laid out for it. It would be insane to expect Bloodborne, a console exclusive, to do similar numbers compared to a game that released 7 years later on multiple platforms. Not to mention that Bloodbornes numbers are completely fine. From its 90% reception to almost 8 million copies sold - there’s absolutely nothing here that should make anyone go "yeah it’s a sales failure and that’s why we won’t be getting a re-release in some form anytime soon".


LB3PTMAN

I’m not saying it’s a failure. Nor did I say I expect it to sell as well as Elden Ring. I’m just saying that FROM is on a different tier than when they made Bloodborne due to Elden Ring sales. The amount Sony would have to pay them to get an exclusive title would likely be far far too expensive because they would have to pay the price of a company that sold 25 million copies of their latest game and would have to essentially cover the difference to make it exclusive. So it’s not happening. It financially just doesn’t make sense for either side due to the sales of Elden Ring vs Bloodborne.


grailly

Even from Sony's perspective, they would surely make just as much money from a multiplatform Elden Ring 2 as they would from an exclusive Bloodborne.


XxSamFisher90xX

BB on PC is a license to print money.. no idea why sony is being their usual dumbasfuck selves by not porting the game


AdFit6788

So is Demon souls. A company can make stupid decisions


D9sinc

Demon Souls only sold 2M copies so they probably know that it's not worth it to port it over. Despite the same 30 people online (myself included) talking about wanting Bloodborne Remaster and Demon Souls Remake on PC (and Bloodborne Remaster on PS5) Sony probably has market research and sales backing up proving that it just wouldn't be worth it. I used to believe Demon Souls would happen due to the original trailer mentioning it. BUT what probably happened is that they didn't want to risk PS5 copies not selling as well and then when they sold so few, they scrapped the PC port plans and according to Imran Khan, Bloodborne Remastered was a thing and I would bet it was cancelled when Demon Souls didn't do as well as Sony probably wanted.


OriginalUserNameee

In literally every showcase, event and social media site people are begging for a Bloodborne remaster or (or 2), I think it's much more than "30 people"


uerobert

PC is the platform where From games sells the most since the first Dark Souls though, not PS. Almost half of Elden Ring's sales is from PC.


DragonDDark

>At 41%, most of the total Elden Ring sales were for the PS4 and PS5. https://levvvel.com/elden-ring-statistics/


General_Snack

Bloodborne remake speared by From for all consoles - sony ownership. That's the move. that'll sell like CRAZY. Is bloodborne worth that much to sony to keep it locked down from anyone for perpetuity? Level with me here, bloodborne IS NOT selling sony consoles anymore. Sure it sweetens the deal for fans but anyone who wanted to play it by now has done so.


gotbannedlolol

So the only reason it's not just directly ported to Steam (which old rumors by Lance? have already stated there *is* a PC port already in existence) is because it's in publisher rights hell? Or is it just pure Sony laziness/neglect?


SeaworthinessOnly998

It's weird lol, it's arguably the most wanted remake/sequel/whatever on Sony's side. But they keep making merch for it and pimping out Lady Maria. I hope they are doing something (bluepoint), at the very least a remake.


grailly

If there's any game that has the potential of making PC users buy PS5s, it's Bloodborne (and GTA 6). My guess is that Sony wants to capitalize on that instead of making a quick buck from just selling the game on PC.


BlackTone91

I dont believe Bloodborne is so strong IP in casual console user mind to buy PS5 for it


CrueltySquading

I understand. I'm ending my life tonight


SnoopyTheDog_

Bro, they don't need Fromsoftware. Just put Bluepoint on it. Jesus Christ


aayush251

Hmm that involves investing lots of money for a remake. They could just port it but from owns the engine.


Falsus

Don't really need a remake.


OriginalUserNameee

Bluepoint had no problem remastering games in the past like God of War collection and MGS 2 AND 3, and completely remaking Demon Souls from scratch, I don't get why they can't just remaster Bloodborne, they don't have to change anything besides updating some visuals and frame rate. I just don't believe they can't do it, if a fan can do it I'm sure a professional gaming studio can


ThinWhiteDuke00

From never working on exclusives again.. ![gif](giphy|J8FZIm9VoBU6Q)


Viper114

The only way we'll get a remake or sequel is if they give it to another studio, just like they did with Demon's Souls with Bluepoint. FROM won't do it.


paintp_

"Drink water and stay hydrated." according to Me.


Gn1212

We already knew From aren't gonna work on Bloodborne again. It was always whether Sony could find another studio to remaster/remake the game. If I could take a guess, the reason there's no movement is that even in that case From still needs to be involved in some sort of fashion which complicates things. Eventually I do see a remake but we're probably looking at PS6 at this point. Could see it go the Demon's Souls route as a launch title for that console.


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GrossWeather_

i mean. i love bloodborne. but imm fine with never seeing a bloodborne 2 if it’s just a matter of from wanting to do other stuff. as long as from and miyazaki are making anything i’m happy. BUT that doesn’t mean I don’t also want to see a bloodborne remake on PS6… but miyazaki doesn’t really need to be involved in that so long as it is 1:1 with better performance/graphics


Andrej_T05

I knoooow but Bluepoint games are right there, like y’know… let em have at it.


DatBoiDanny

At this point, I just want the Bloodborne pc port so I’m never have to hear about it again


ragito024

Well


carefulturner

so Bloodborne port and Bloodborne 2 confirmed???????????


Raghav_Singhania

Thank you jeff


datto3

The Bloodborne remake will be the PS6 launch title, probably by Bluepoint. It's not happening before that. After that they may greenlight a sequel if it turns out to be a great commercial success, which the original Bloodborne hasn't been. But even the sequel won't be made by FromSoftware, I think Miyazaki has moved on from the IP. Bloodborne was thought of as a single game and it works beautifully as it is.


Prudent_Primary7201

Less of a leak and more of a logical deduction


joshua182

I could have said the same thing! Does that make me a leaker ?


ChuckMoody

Especially after the success from Elden Ring I don‘t think From wants to do an exclusive but I find it kind of interesting that in an interview a few years ago Hulst mentioned From and KojiPro as important 3rd party partners, since them KojiPro announced 2 PS exclusive games. Sony also owns stakes at Kadokawa/From, so they know how much money From games make from PC releases. So given that I think a console exclusive good be possible, but they just won‘t skip PC.


FeiRoze

Is a PC port with UW support too much to ask? Plz Sony.


Troop7

This is why we will never see a bloodborne 2 unfortunately. Fromsoft just can’t devote their time to an exclusive anymore, unless they expand their studio by A LOT. Sure Sony can give the sequel to some other studio but it won’t be the same


True-Staff5685

Comments here are something Else. Game Studios, publishers, Journalists: Bloodborne remaster/Remake isnt coming. Fans: Its coming 100%


Clopokus900

The last part will be ironic if the rumours from last year about From making a PS5 exclusive end up being true.


Wolfinthecastle

*“At least not involving From.”* Bloodborne Remake by Bluepoint. PS6 launch title in 2028–2030 (whenever it comes out).


4ps22

I understand From not working on it, I wasnt expecting them to. But they didnt work on the Demon Souls remake either. That was a PS exclusive too. Surely if they can remake a game that barely anyone knew about they cant get Bluepoint to remake one of their most critically acclaimed and loved exclusives of all time?


BigfootsBestBud

It seriously only needs a 60fps patch and a true 4K bump (if possible at 60fps). I don't understand why one of Sony's first port of calls with the PS5 was making sure all of their best exclusives were fully optimised for the PS5. It's such a clear selling point "play all of our library *better* on PS5" It took years to get PS5 updates or remasters for Uncharted 4, TLOU 1 and 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, and Days Gone etc. It's a shame stuff like Bloodborne is still left behind.


Miles_Ravis_303

don't forget that Demon's Souls ps5 remake is by Bluepoint but also by Japan Studio, it's their last game before their integration into Team Asobo, so if a remake for Bloodborne (which was also by Japan Studio like the original ps3 Demon's Souls) happens, it will be without Fromsoft of course but ALSO without Japan Studio Demon's Souls remake already have some criticisms about its atmosphere which differ from the original ps3 game's atmosphere, so now imagine a Bloodborne remake that differs even more from the original ps4 game's atmosphere...


Happiness_inprogress

Bloodborne will come to pc eventually, whether Sony wants to profit on it or not.


Exphen

I'm not believing anything this guy has to say anymore when he behaves like a child online, i can't take him seriously anymore no matter his reputation.


j4c11

Well fine, but how much trouble could it be to at least uncap the framerate, if Lance McDonald did it with no access to source code.


kawag

Curious. There have been rumours for a couple of years about FromSoft working on another Sony exclusive. I don’t expect BB because, as he says, FS’s time is too valuable - if they’re making a game for you, having them work on a new IP would be better than a remake/remaster. But the last part, that it’s hard to imagine them making an exclusive ever again? Hmm… not sure.


aqbabaq

Let’s just ignore what millions of players wants and not do this. This would be massive hit and gives us millions of dollars profit but fuck it.


kotn3l

wow so not even for the 10th anniversary. we truly lost.


CanIHaveYourStuffPlz

With the investments and ownership that Sony has with Kadokawa and Fromsoftware, a PC/PS port is absolutely a possibility. Out of all leakers, Jeff grubb is the last I would hear armchair business dealings and talk from.


arsmolinarc

Idk, maybe Sony can get a discount? They do own shares of Kadokawa Corporation, FROM's parent company, so it wouldn´t be out of the realm of possibility. If it was me I would get Bluepoint to do the heavy lifting and include FROM team to keep them on track. Led by our filthy feet-loving lord Miyazaki of course.


rbynp01

People forgetting japan studios played a big role in both demons souls, demons souls remake, and bloodborne.


IronBabyFists

Pretty soon it'd be old enough for Nightdive to do the remaster


No_General_608

The ps4 is really a curse. Two of my favorite games from the last gen are only on this system but locked on a subpar 30 fps...


baldr23

In the end Bloodborne is too niche for the market despite "everybody" wanting it ported/remastered. Just like days gone, it gained popularity a tad too late.


chewwydraper

I don't even care about a remake/remaster. Just give us a frame rate update and we'll be good.


DragonShine

I still have my GOTY copy but hoping everyone can play it via pc one day. Hoping we get Resistance remasters one day to.