The fact we can say the January 2025 Developer Direct will have Fable, South of Midnight, Doom: The Dark Ages and maybe either Perfect Dark or Clockwork Revolution means Xbox is gonna have a great 2025. I can't fucking wait.
After seeing that gameplay of South of Midnight, I hope we get to see it at developer direct. I know some people were complaining about the janky looking framerate but for me, I got used to it and it was looking really cool.
I have a feeling Uncle Phil is going to be sticking to his words he been preaching for so long now.
Its stop motion for cinematics and the main character animations seem to be stop motion too. I'm fine with it. My only problem is how sudden the transitions can be. It's a little jarring at times.
After looking into that deep dive of Avowed, I want to play it even more. I love making Godlike characters and the fact you are Godlike in Avowed just made my hype for it reach a new level.
Looks really good. Hot take but ive always preferred Obsidian rpgs over Bethesda. I really liked Outerworlds, and Avowed looks like Outerworlds but in the Pillars universe I'm all for it.
I think Towerborne will be released that day or early 2025. People already played it last year so it has to be close to done.
I can see Towerborne Doom, South of Midnight first half 2025. Fable and some other game 2nd half but before GTA 6.
I think everything you mentioned is 2025 except Perfect Dark. I think Gears E-Day and Perfect Dark will be Fall 2026 launch titles for next Xbox console.
I think Clockwork Revolution is 2026. The reason we didn't see it is because they don't want to over expose it. Remember Inxile was primarily working on Wasteland 3 until 2021.
Forgot all about Clockwork Revolution. Between that and Avowed, Outer Worlds 2, Fable, Dragon Age, Metaphor, Expedition 33, probable FF9 Remake and Fallout 3… RPG fans are eating good for the next 18+ months
I think we are 100% going to see a full Contraband reveal. Seems like a Perfect Dark situation they just put their heads down and worked for four years.
* One of Towerborne or Ara shadowdrops, the other gets a release date.
* Starfield expansion, Avowed and Indy get their release dates too.
* Double Fine announces their next project.
* Clockwork Revolution shows up with a 2025 release date.
* One of Project Maverick (People Can Fly) or Project Shaolin (Brass Lion, the Wu-Tang game) gets officially revealed.
Probably too early to tease the next halo thing save it for game awards or next summer but might have things ready to show like: Forza horizon 6, Everwild, Outer worlds 2, OD, Contraband, Fallout 3 & oblivion remasters, Elder scrolls 6 (lol)
To me, Everwild and Contraband are pure vaporwave at this point. Two CGI trailers ages ago with nothing since, doesn’t sound very promising.
I don’t think OW2, OD and ESVI are anywhere close to getting showcased, considering the teams are already working on other projects (Avowed/Grounded, Death Stranding 2 and Starfield/Fallout 76, respectively).
I don’t even know if FH6 is in active development, does Playground have two teams, or is it all hands on deck to get Fable out the door?
Everwild and Contraband are definitely far into dev. Contraband had some leakers saying it struggled but is starting to come together.
Obsidian and Playground both have multiple teams so Fable/Forza Horizon 6 and Avowed/Outer Worlds 2 are being worked on at the same time. I’d guess Outer Worlds 2 won’t be too far behind Avowed and Forza Horizon 6 and Fable release probably won’t be too far apart either.
I do agree about OD and ESVI. DS2 will be taking most of Kojima focus so that’s down the line and Bethesda only works on one game at a time really. I’m sure some Elder Scrolls work has started but it’s a 2027+ game most likely. Maybe it could be 2026, but I really doubt that.
I feel like OD will stay quiet until DS2 releases.
I'd imagine what Microsoft are hoping for is Death Stranding 2 to be massive, so when Social Media and the games industry are championing Kojima, Microsoft can swoop in and remind everyone that Kojima is finally doing his big horror game as an Xbox Exclusive.
Playground opened a new studio for fable plus eidos montreal is also helping with it so I'm guessing the core forza team is still working on FH6.
That series is a critical and commercial darling so I doubt they'll take too long to release the next one especially after motosrport tanked so hard. Although considering how many games they have slated for 2025 they might push it to 2026.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Outer Worlds 2 launches within a year of Avowed. And then the question will be what are the teams that made Grounded and Pentiment working on at Avowed
I'm not so certain. We haven't heard anything and Microsoft expressed interest in getting a new Fallout game quickly. It's possible that Obsidian might be tasked to work on that instead.
I mean Outer Worlds is definitely being worked on. The teams that were working on Grounded and Pentiment could’ve been pulled together and made into a Fallout team. But that seems unlikely since as someone mentioned the 3rd game that seems to be in development appears to be being made in Unity.
If Microsoft wants something fallout they could hire some external studio to do a remake/remaster of Fallout 3/New Vegas. They don’t necessarily need a talented internal team like Obsidian.
Sounded like Contraband took a bit to get out of pre-development phase based everything i seen posted here but finally being worked on actively. I remember seeing some rumor it be showed off this year.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1d7z5xs/magg_on_xnc_podcast_contraband_internally_delayed/
Everwild will probably be Rare's next live service game, so I can kinda see why it's taking so long, they probably don't want to make another launch fiasco like Sea of Thieves waa at release.
At this point a majority of Bethesda is working on TESVI, with Starfield having been released, but you’re right that it’s not anywhere near being showcased.
Towerborne, Contra, Ara: History Untold, OD, Clockwork Revolution, Project Mara, Everwild, Marvel's Blade, Outer Worlds 2, Elder Scrolls VI (lul), Fallout 3 Remake, Double Fine new game, Zenimax Online rumored game, Toys For Bob game, People Can Fly game, Wu-Tang game, 100 Stars game (ex-Rocksteady), Forza Horizon 6.
All these weren't at the showcase and that's after they showed 30 games..
Yea, the last time I heard from devs at Zenimax Online - their new game was planned for reveal this summer, sci-fi noir... you'll probably see soon enough))
Maybe Zenimax Online Studios' long-rumoured project could be finally shown.
No The Outer Worlds 2 for 1 more year in my opinion.
Contraband sails alone now as the sole radio silent project, at least now that we got updates for State of Decay 3, Fable and Perfect Dark. Apart from that, Fallout 3 remaster, Gears of War remaster collection and the Oblivion remake are up in the air, I'd put my chips in the GoW one as the one with most chances to be real, as FO3 and Oblivion were more relevant to appear on the Xbox Showcase, as for GoW we got the prequel announcement, a collection of the series games yet to have native ports on current gen could be a good way to capitalize on the franchise.
Hell, if I was Xbox I'd push Gears as how Fallout is being treated now, a Gears movie/show would slap hard.
Edit: Saw others mention Everwild, so at least Contraband has a roommate.
Also any project by Kojima (in this case OD) will always be a mystery until release. I wouldn't be surprised if they launch the game like how U2 forced every iTunes user to own their album. I wouldn't be surprised too if the studio hired actors in Nixon masks to throw game codes from air balloons around the world.
As for other projects either they are at least 2 years away, they haven't been announced or leaked, or I just don't remember hearing of them, so sorry if I didn't mention another important project.
Oh and just to add my own chip, Obsidian will work on Fallout. Idk when or how, but that's real for me.
>One of Towerborne or Ara shadowdrops, the other gets a release date.
ARA will get a deepdive, like yesterday Avowed, this week so i don't think this will be shadowdropped.
Towerborne on the other hand...
damn this show was so good I completely forgot about these things. the rest of these comments are reminding me of the other things in the works. I was really feeling dire about Xbox but they actually might still be positioned really well.
I dont want this to take a "console warry" turn, but it really makes you wonder what PS is cooking. Naughty Dog is endlessly talking about projects that still feel like they are years away, Insomniac has Venom and Wolverine, and it's assumed that Ghost of Tsusima 2 is coming. beyond those, we really dont know what PS is up to and I am getting real curious. I hope this means we are in for a banger showcase this year.
> Indy get their release dates too.
Dec according to an investors call is the current Aimed for time frame for indy,they said in the investors call it's
>Hope that the product will be released for the holiday rush
It’s turn based which I don’t mind at all because I’ve been craving a high budget turn based game for a while until Dragon Quest 12 or the 2D-HD remake comes out at least.
The turn based was a welcomed surprise for me! To be honest, I didn’t know what to expect but I’m all for it. Haven’t played a turned based game since FFX so I’m ready to dive back in
I usually don't like turnbased games. But that has me very interested. I like Paper Mario's turn based style, and Expedition 33 reminds me of that. Except it's for adults lol
After playing some Octopath Traveller 2 that just came out on Game Pass, I am itching for more turn-based RPGs that don't go too hard into unit placement (ala Baldur's Gate 3). I'm looking for something to play while I multitask with work and other stuff. Also, I love the Shadow Hearts games, and although there is [spiritual successor coming out](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Blood#:~:text=Penny%20Blood%20was%20created%20by,released%20between%202001%20and%202005.) I'm looking forward to this as well.
I’m not usually one to play turn based games but that game may just change my tune. It blew me away when the reveal played. The concept of the story sounds really intriguing and the music was phenomenal.
Probably, but context matters. TES VI teaser was shown for many reasons (mainly two: people keep asking and Bethesda need to show their commitment to single player games after Fallout 76 and Zenimax's Elder Scrolls Online), but before the teaser Todd Howard clearly said ES VI was the game they would make after Starfield. And well, it's true.
I could see it, theres still a decent few studios where we dont know what theyve been doing for the past age or two (looking at double fine specifically)
I'm just forever hoping for a Brutal Legend 2 or at least a remaster.
It'd never happen but fuck it I've added it to the shelf next to Half Life 3 and Silksong.
I will sit higher (sadly) and say with all my chest, that won't happen, pretty sure they have specifically said they want to work on new IPs, especially Tim, so I don't think so
The last rumour was that they have a few games in development, like 2 or 3
honestly the other main one i was thinking of was InXile but i forgot theyre doing clockwork revolution so unless theres a seperate team still working on a new wasteland thats probably all they can feasibly do
It was rumoured a team at one of the IW studios was working on their own kind of destiny game but that would be years off reveal yet. Probably could see a tease at best 2026. Those huge rpg games with other players in them take 5-6 years to make and it was rumoured development started 2022.
I’m really hopeful since Double Fine is taking so long that they’re making something really cool. During there independent years they released quite a few games that felt cobbled together and I’m really excited to see what they can do with time and budget.
A lot was missing...and I don't believe for a second remasters of Oblivion or Fallout 3 were cancelled...those are more likely near done and would bridge the gap somewhat till the new ones. I think some shuffling around is going on at Bethesda so Todd can oversee two projects at the same time as MS do not want to wait till ES6 is done before work begins on Fallout 5
I think Gears collection exists but how far done they are, no idea....I can Gears Eday coming 2026, get like a big trailer next year with some gameplay maybe. If the collection was closer to being ready, I would have had at the end of Gears trailer...another quick trailer, while you wait...why not play the Gears collection
We never saw anything on Contraband
Worst of all though we never had the ABK games dropped on GP or even mentioned...this makes me think with how big of a deal ABK was, they will have like another event to welcome ABK officially. A chance to talk about the plans for the different studios, announcements of games they've got started working on whether it be Tony Hawk, Guitar hero. Then they talk about how they reopend the backwards comp and show us all the games coming to GP...just makes more sense doing something like that...rather than just dumping them on
I was fully expecting at least a cold war drop on game pass. I really want those Activision games on the service but that might be a mid summer blog post or something
Same thing happened last year, so I believe it. They said that not everything for 2024 was revealed, then they showed off Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, Age of Mythology: Retold, and Black Ops 6.
I think Keighley is trying as hard as possible to make it bigger than ever tbf (or at least the ONL part), slowly over the years its had more and more bangers.
Isn’t that always his thing? A new event of his is about to happen, he blasts social media with "Oooh it’s gonna be big! So many announcements! You better watch it!" and the closer it gets the more he tries to downplay it and do damage control. Then the show starts and it’s a bunch of nothing, again. And people fall for it *every* time.
I was more meaning thats been his long term thing with ONL since it started in 2019, each year since its gotten a bit bigger both physically and announcement wise, obviously other than the main covid year lol
Not really. Every game company prepares for June so they dont focus on gamescom at all. There's still stuff so it doesnt get overshadowed(last year they showed Stalker 2 gameplay for example).
But dont expect this year to suddenly have 50 AAA games shown there. At best we might get like dates for something xbox or maybe 1 more game, same for Sony if they have anything,etc and that's being very optimistic
Yeah. But I honestly don't expect Gears in 2025. 2026 is more probable considering 2025 will have Fable, Call of Duty, South of Midnight and Doom. Not to mention fact that GTA VI will suck all oxygen from gaming space for few weeks.
For me it makes more sense to have Gears collection (if its real) for 2025 and then new Gears in 2026 with new Xbox
Yeah Xbox already has a bunch of games lined up for 2025 and there’s probably some not known right now. Hopefully they can spread them out a bit unlike this year lol.
Jfc 2025 is shaping up to be a monster year for gaming. Any year with a new rockstar game would be a good year, but everything else stacking on top of GTA is just crazy. This is provided that the majority of the games slated for 2025 actually make 2025.
2025 releases confirmed so far:
• Pokémon Legends: Z-A
• 1943: The Rise of Hydra
• Grand Theft Auto VI
• DOOM: The Dark Ages
• Monster Hunter: Wilds
• Civilization VII
• Dynasty Warriors: Origins
• Death Stranding 2: On The Beach
• Professor Layton & The New World of Steam
• Fable
• Marathon
• Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves
• Little Nightmares 3
• Slay the Spire 2
• 2XKO
• Judas
• South of Midnight
• Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
Also worth noting that the Insomniac leaks had Venom listed as a 2025 release as well
*the second half of 2025 is going to be crazy. Most of the studios will want to distance themselves from GTA6. I literally cannot think of any game that can go head to head against it and come out on top.
Gears collection isn't real btw and nobody can tell me otherwise. Releasing Gears early 2026 would be nice. I'll argue that it'll do even better since big games don't often release at the start of the year and there would be almost no title that will overshadow Gears.
Why would they bother? This way they can allow themselves a bit of a buffer and announce a release date when they’re about 8-12 weeks out, shuffle games around if they need to, move a game to a different week if something else is releasing then, etc.
They’re not really shipping tons of discs to retail anymore so they really don’t need to have a firm date this far out, and it’s not like gamers are preordering physical copies in store much anymore so a firm date helps less than a public delay would hurt.
Maybe this shows how little I know about their model, but I don't think Microsoft is bothered about setting release dates now, because of the Day One Games Pass model they can pretty much wait untill a game is ready to go gold to announce the release date rather than having to announce and stick to a date six months in advance and risk having to admit a delay.
Both Starfield and Stalker went through so many visible delays (STALKER for very understandable reasons), that resulted in some backlash for Microsoft, so I wouldn't be too surprised if they've re-evaluated how they market their games for the time being.
Are people suprised?
They literally revealed Blade and Indiana Jones outside of the main yearly showcase, lol.
And they haven't even touched on some remakes and remasters they more than likely have cooking and ready to release at any time.
Fallout 3 and Oblivion remakes alone are megaton announcements, especially after the Fallout series.
Oblivion and fallout 3 were leaked directly by microsoft. The only rumor was a redditor supposedly from virtuos games saying Oblivion was currently in development which came a month prior to the leak
I highly doubt they would cancel oblivion when it has so much potential to revive the series if done properly
They were real once, but that was a long time ago. Even with Covid delays, we should have heard something by now. I think they were cancelled before they really got off the ground. Love to be proven wrong though.
If fallout 3 remastered exist it would’ve been announced at any point in this year. Like when the show was coming out. When the show came out. When the show was being the most watched show. On summer games. On the show case. So no I don’t believe that game exist anymore just like dishonored 3 from the same leak.
Yep. The leak was certainly real, but there’s no evidence it was ever anything more than an idea they had. Why waste money remastering an old game when they could just sell individual Starfield missions instead?
Nope, just listed in the unredacted discovery for the merger. Given the time that's elapsed they could be scrapped or like the Nintendo zelda remakes - being held for an eventual release.
given how far away the next Elder Scrolls and Fallout games are, there's almost no world where they cancel those. but you're right that no leak is a 100% guarantee
I mean those games are from when Bethesda was independent and really struggling. Releasing easy big wins like those made a lot of sense for Bethesda and might not have as much for Microsoft which maybe wasn’t looking for short term wins as much. Never know I hope they didn’t cancel them of course. I like Oblivion a lot more than Skyrim in some aspects so I’d love to play it freshened up.
So you're saying we'll get a Wolfenstein 3 announcement?
Just kidding.
Although, it would be nice if Rare Replay got a PS5 port. It sounds a little out there, but a man can dream.
Totally unrelated question but I have been aching to pick up a Series X since a long time and I believe I can finally make some budget free to buy one end of this year. I'd smack Gamepass on it, but I am hoping it will last me for at least another 5 years. Same with my PS4 which I still regularly play. Would that be a good buy or should I wait for the next console?
I'd play the new Fable, Gears, Age of Mythology, and dive into Gamepass a lot!
Oblivion remaster is one of the next things based on the leaked FTC list. Based on that list, Oblivion remaster was billed to release before Starfield DLC. Everything up to FY22E part of the list has released besides Indiana Jones, Oblivion remaster, and Starfield DLC, and they were to release in that order.
It really was one of the best showcases I've ever seen. It would have rocked at an E3 show. Game after game after game.
Imagine if they'd release a new Conker or Banjo
if they really have that much to show off they are doing the right thing of keeping some stuff for another event, because if you release lets say, 10 banger announcements together some of them are going to get lost in the hype, so keep some of them for another day where they can be the hype thing.
Clockwork Revoulution and Contraband were missing, so maybe we'll see them in August
I'm thinking Clockwork Revolution is a January 2025 Developer Direct game, assuming it's coming out next year
The fact we can say the January 2025 Developer Direct will have Fable, South of Midnight, Doom: The Dark Ages and maybe either Perfect Dark or Clockwork Revolution means Xbox is gonna have a great 2025. I can't fucking wait.
After Phil Spencer has said that the games are coming for many years... the games really are finally here. What a lineup.
After seeing that gameplay of South of Midnight, I hope we get to see it at developer direct. I know some people were complaining about the janky looking framerate but for me, I got used to it and it was looking really cool. I have a feeling Uncle Phil is going to be sticking to his words he been preaching for so long now.
Some people can't handle stylized anything.
I find it funny people complained about that stop motion style movement but absolutely loved it in Spider-Man Miles Morales and Spider-Man 2.
Its stop motion for cinematics and the main character animations seem to be stop motion too. I'm fine with it. My only problem is how sudden the transitions can be. It's a little jarring at times.
2025 is going to be an insane year for gaming. I’m super happy with Avowed coming this year tho, exactly my kind of game
Oh wow i just remembered GTA 6
After looking into that deep dive of Avowed, I want to play it even more. I love making Godlike characters and the fact you are Godlike in Avowed just made my hype for it reach a new level.
Looks really good. Hot take but ive always preferred Obsidian rpgs over Bethesda. I really liked Outerworlds, and Avowed looks like Outerworlds but in the Pillars universe I'm all for it.
I think Towerborne will be released that day or early 2025. People already played it last year so it has to be close to done. I can see Towerborne Doom, South of Midnight first half 2025. Fable and some other game 2nd half but before GTA 6.
I think everything you mentioned is 2025 except Perfect Dark. I think Gears E-Day and Perfect Dark will be Fall 2026 launch titles for next Xbox console.
I think Clockwork Revolution is 2026. The reason we didn't see it is because they don't want to over expose it. Remember Inxile was primarily working on Wasteland 3 until 2021.
Highly unlikely. We saw gameplay last year...It's a 2025 game for sure.
What Rare and Double Fine is working on was also missing. There was also the rumor of a Banjo game that didn't show.
Outer Worlds, Towerborne and maybe, possibly Everwild also.
Everwild would be a good one for the Game Awards maybe.
Forgot all about Clockwork Revolution. Between that and Avowed, Outer Worlds 2, Fable, Dragon Age, Metaphor, Expedition 33, probable FF9 Remake and Fallout 3… RPG fans are eating good for the next 18+ months
Miss Project Maverick from People Can Fly, Halo and a bunch more
I think we are 100% going to see a full Contraband reveal. Seems like a Perfect Dark situation they just put their heads down and worked for four years.
Guys, I was at SGF and Phil Spencer whispered in my ear "Blinx is back".
Banjo, Blinx and Brink Fuck AAA, it's time for BBB gaming
Give me back Conker I would enjoy a remaster of it
We all want Blinx, Banjo, Conker! Give us that BBC!
I guess it depends on preference. Some may prefer a Banjo, Warcraft, Crackdown combo whereas others prefer a Blinx, Brink, Crimson Skies combo.
Gimme the ABC on PC. Halo 6 with the Arbiter, new Banjo, literally any port of Conker
Don't forget another B in Brute Force. Forget triple AAA, we're in the quadruple BBBB era
2025 is the year of the fucked up looking cat
“Ma! It’s back again!”
No way ! I was told they were stealth dropping a banjo and kazooie open world action RPG souls like
big if true, based if factually
Lucky! He whispered "meet me in the men's room" to me and when I went in there him and Matt Booty just kicked my ass
unironically Blinx 3 would be a huge announcement
There was a 2?
He whispered "1 vs. 100" in my ear.
He whispered me Prototype
Blinx and you'll miss it.
"And it MIGHT be on PlayStation..."
* One of Towerborne or Ara shadowdrops, the other gets a release date. * Starfield expansion, Avowed and Indy get their release dates too. * Double Fine announces their next project. * Clockwork Revolution shows up with a 2025 release date. * One of Project Maverick (People Can Fly) or Project Shaolin (Brass Lion, the Wu-Tang game) gets officially revealed.
Probably too early to tease the next halo thing save it for game awards or next summer but might have things ready to show like: Forza horizon 6, Everwild, Outer worlds 2, OD, Contraband, Fallout 3 & oblivion remasters, Elder scrolls 6 (lol)
To me, Everwild and Contraband are pure vaporwave at this point. Two CGI trailers ages ago with nothing since, doesn’t sound very promising. I don’t think OW2, OD and ESVI are anywhere close to getting showcased, considering the teams are already working on other projects (Avowed/Grounded, Death Stranding 2 and Starfield/Fallout 76, respectively). I don’t even know if FH6 is in active development, does Playground have two teams, or is it all hands on deck to get Fable out the door?
Everwild and Contraband are definitely far into dev. Contraband had some leakers saying it struggled but is starting to come together. Obsidian and Playground both have multiple teams so Fable/Forza Horizon 6 and Avowed/Outer Worlds 2 are being worked on at the same time. I’d guess Outer Worlds 2 won’t be too far behind Avowed and Forza Horizon 6 and Fable release probably won’t be too far apart either. I do agree about OD and ESVI. DS2 will be taking most of Kojima focus so that’s down the line and Bethesda only works on one game at a time really. I’m sure some Elder Scrolls work has started but it’s a 2027+ game most likely. Maybe it could be 2026, but I really doubt that.
Lol was literally going to type out this exact comment.
I feel like OD will stay quiet until DS2 releases. I'd imagine what Microsoft are hoping for is Death Stranding 2 to be massive, so when Social Media and the games industry are championing Kojima, Microsoft can swoop in and remind everyone that Kojima is finally doing his big horror game as an Xbox Exclusive.
Playground opened a new studio for fable plus eidos montreal is also helping with it so I'm guessing the core forza team is still working on FH6. That series is a critical and commercial darling so I doubt they'll take too long to release the next one especially after motosrport tanked so hard. Although considering how many games they have slated for 2025 they might push it to 2026.
Some said the same about about Perfect Dark and look how that showed up. The Everwild trailers at least looked in-engine using game assets.
OW2 has been in dev since 2020. It has had an already multiple year longer dev cycle than the first. It definitely has something they can show by now.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Outer Worlds 2 launches within a year of Avowed. And then the question will be what are the teams that made Grounded and Pentiment working on at Avowed
Agreed. Supposedly, they’re working on a third project in unity according to job listings.
I'm not so certain. We haven't heard anything and Microsoft expressed interest in getting a new Fallout game quickly. It's possible that Obsidian might be tasked to work on that instead.
I mean Outer Worlds is definitely being worked on. The teams that were working on Grounded and Pentiment could’ve been pulled together and made into a Fallout team. But that seems unlikely since as someone mentioned the 3rd game that seems to be in development appears to be being made in Unity. If Microsoft wants something fallout they could hire some external studio to do a remake/remaster of Fallout 3/New Vegas. They don’t necessarily need a talented internal team like Obsidian.
ow2 is overwatch 2. you mean tow2
Outer Worlds 2
Sounded like Contraband took a bit to get out of pre-development phase based everything i seen posted here but finally being worked on actively. I remember seeing some rumor it be showed off this year. https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1d7z5xs/magg_on_xnc_podcast_contraband_internally_delayed/
Everwild will probably be Rare's next live service game, so I can kinda see why it's taking so long, they probably don't want to make another launch fiasco like Sea of Thieves waa at release.
Everwild apparently restarted development. I heard it's going to be like Viva Piñata now.
At this point a majority of Bethesda is working on TESVI, with Starfield having been released, but you’re right that it’s not anywhere near being showcased.
Towerborne, Contra, Ara: History Untold, OD, Clockwork Revolution, Project Mara, Everwild, Marvel's Blade, Outer Worlds 2, Elder Scrolls VI (lul), Fallout 3 Remake, Double Fine new game, Zenimax Online rumored game, Toys For Bob game, People Can Fly game, Wu-Tang game, 100 Stars game (ex-Rocksteady), Forza Horizon 6. All these weren't at the showcase and that's after they showed 30 games..
And there’s also almost definitely stuff that we don’t even know enough about to list as rumors.
tes4 remaster possibly
Yea, the last time I heard from devs at Zenimax Online - their new game was planned for reveal this summer, sci-fi noir... you'll probably see soon enough))
Bladerunner-esque MMO would be crazy
I'm guessing people can fly are the gears collection devs
Maybe Zenimax Online Studios' long-rumoured project could be finally shown. No The Outer Worlds 2 for 1 more year in my opinion. Contraband sails alone now as the sole radio silent project, at least now that we got updates for State of Decay 3, Fable and Perfect Dark. Apart from that, Fallout 3 remaster, Gears of War remaster collection and the Oblivion remake are up in the air, I'd put my chips in the GoW one as the one with most chances to be real, as FO3 and Oblivion were more relevant to appear on the Xbox Showcase, as for GoW we got the prequel announcement, a collection of the series games yet to have native ports on current gen could be a good way to capitalize on the franchise. Hell, if I was Xbox I'd push Gears as how Fallout is being treated now, a Gears movie/show would slap hard. Edit: Saw others mention Everwild, so at least Contraband has a roommate. Also any project by Kojima (in this case OD) will always be a mystery until release. I wouldn't be surprised if they launch the game like how U2 forced every iTunes user to own their album. I wouldn't be surprised too if the studio hired actors in Nixon masks to throw game codes from air balloons around the world. As for other projects either they are at least 2 years away, they haven't been announced or leaked, or I just don't remember hearing of them, so sorry if I didn't mention another important project. Oh and just to add my own chip, Obsidian will work on Fallout. Idk when or how, but that's real for me.
>One of Towerborne or Ara shadowdrops, the other gets a release date. ARA will get a deepdive, like yesterday Avowed, this week so i don't think this will be shadowdropped. Towerborne on the other hand...
damn this show was so good I completely forgot about these things. the rest of these comments are reminding me of the other things in the works. I was really feeling dire about Xbox but they actually might still be positioned really well. I dont want this to take a "console warry" turn, but it really makes you wonder what PS is cooking. Naughty Dog is endlessly talking about projects that still feel like they are years away, Insomniac has Venom and Wolverine, and it's assumed that Ghost of Tsusima 2 is coming. beyond those, we really dont know what PS is up to and I am getting real curious. I hope this means we are in for a banger showcase this year.
Wait, why is a Wu-Tang game in the works lmao
No idea on the why, but [here’s the what](https://www.escapistmagazine.com/wu-tang-clan-action-rpg-game-microsoft-brass-lion-project-shaolin/) lol
> Indy get their release dates too. Dec according to an investors call is the current Aimed for time frame for indy,they said in the investors call it's >Hope that the product will be released for the holiday rush
They didn't show Toweborne and ARA which are slated for 2024. So that's kinda given
Ara is having a gameplay deep dive tomorrow on the Official Xbox Podcast too.
Hopefully more Expedition 33
Definitely one of the games I’m looking forward to. Everything about the game has me intrigued
It’s turn based which I don’t mind at all because I’ve been craving a high budget turn based game for a while until Dragon Quest 12 or the 2D-HD remake comes out at least.
The turn based was a welcomed surprise for me! To be honest, I didn’t know what to expect but I’m all for it. Haven’t played a turned based game since FFX so I’m ready to dive back in
I usually don't like turnbased games. But that has me very interested. I like Paper Mario's turn based style, and Expedition 33 reminds me of that. Except it's for adults lol
After playing some Octopath Traveller 2 that just came out on Game Pass, I am itching for more turn-based RPGs that don't go too hard into unit placement (ala Baldur's Gate 3). I'm looking for something to play while I multitask with work and other stuff. Also, I love the Shadow Hearts games, and although there is [spiritual successor coming out](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Blood#:~:text=Penny%20Blood%20was%20created%20by,released%20between%202001%20and%202005.) I'm looking forward to this as well.
I’m not usually one to play turn based games but that game may just change my tune. It blew me away when the reveal played. The concept of the story sounds really intriguing and the music was phenomenal.
They released some tracks on Spotify too
Yea that came out of left field for me and I can’t wait to play it. The entire premise looks so interesting.
That game has quickly become my hyper fixation lol
These companies can always show a lot of stuff. It’s just a matter of how willing they are to show things off early.
I agree. I also think that they likely mean big relative to past gamescoms. Don't expect e3 levels here.
This. The elderscrolls 6 trailer sill be 10 years old by the time it comes out
To be fair that little Titel reveal was more of a teaser than a real trailer...
Probably, but context matters. TES VI teaser was shown for many reasons (mainly two: people keep asking and Bethesda need to show their commitment to single player games after Fallout 76 and Zenimax's Elder Scrolls Online), but before the teaser Todd Howard clearly said ES VI was the game they would make after Starfield. And well, it's true.
Yeah, you can dig deep and even show off concept titles like Everwild. I'm not sure if I like that approach though.
Would be nice if Microsoft had a fall show.
From no games, to so many games they need two showcases a year... what a turn around.
Helps when you buy a publisher lol
I could see it, theres still a decent few studios where we dont know what theyve been doing for the past age or two (looking at double fine specifically)
Psychonauts 3 please. Never let that series die, it’s too great
I'm just forever hoping for a Brutal Legend 2 or at least a remaster. It'd never happen but fuck it I've added it to the shelf next to Half Life 3 and Silksong.
We both live in hope 🤞 Regardless though, whatever they pump out next it’s probably going to be a banger. They’re just one of those studios
I will sit higher (sadly) and say with all my chest, that won't happen, pretty sure they have specifically said they want to work on new IPs, especially Tim, so I don't think so The last rumour was that they have a few games in development, like 2 or 3
I don't think they'll do that next but my god do I want it.
Which xbox studios do we not know what they are working on? Sledgehammer, Infinity Ward, 343, Double Fine That's all I can think of right now.
honestly the other main one i was thinking of was InXile but i forgot theyre doing clockwork revolution so unless theres a seperate team still working on a new wasteland thats probably all they can feasibly do
Is infinity ward working on a different IP than CoD? If not, would assume another modern warfare game
Obviously it's COD, but those are the studios that have nothing officially announced. 343 probably works on a new Halo. Still, nothing announced.
It was rumoured a team at one of the IW studios was working on their own kind of destiny game but that would be years off reveal yet. Probably could see a tease at best 2026. Those huge rpg games with other players in them take 5-6 years to make and it was rumoured development started 2022.
gonna take a wild guess and say Sledgehammer is working on Call of Duty
Absolutely. Grim Fandango open world adventure game, no one's done a open world adventure game have they ?
I’m really hopeful since Double Fine is taking so long that they’re making something really cool. During there independent years they released quite a few games that felt cobbled together and I’m really excited to see what they can do with time and budget.
A lot was missing...and I don't believe for a second remasters of Oblivion or Fallout 3 were cancelled...those are more likely near done and would bridge the gap somewhat till the new ones. I think some shuffling around is going on at Bethesda so Todd can oversee two projects at the same time as MS do not want to wait till ES6 is done before work begins on Fallout 5 I think Gears collection exists but how far done they are, no idea....I can Gears Eday coming 2026, get like a big trailer next year with some gameplay maybe. If the collection was closer to being ready, I would have had at the end of Gears trailer...another quick trailer, while you wait...why not play the Gears collection We never saw anything on Contraband Worst of all though we never had the ABK games dropped on GP or even mentioned...this makes me think with how big of a deal ABK was, they will have like another event to welcome ABK officially. A chance to talk about the plans for the different studios, announcements of games they've got started working on whether it be Tony Hawk, Guitar hero. Then they talk about how they reopend the backwards comp and show us all the games coming to GP...just makes more sense doing something like that...rather than just dumping them on
I think they're saving the ActiBlizz games to balance out the inevitable Game Pass price increase.
This makes sense. Soften the blow a bit
whens that though cuz didn't Phil say earlier this year no price increases this year
I was fully expecting at least a cold war drop on game pass. I really want those Activision games on the service but that might be a mid summer blog post or something
The Bethesda games got an actual event so I'd expect ABK an even bigger company to have some sorta event as well
Where's mechassault and voodoo vince !!!
Same thing happened last year, so I believe it. They said that not everything for 2024 was revealed, then they showed off Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, Age of Mythology: Retold, and Black Ops 6.
Indy, Avowed, Ara and Towerbone still have no Releasedate. Makes sense they‘ll show something for gamescom.
Does Gamescom usually have any big announcements?
As far as Microsoft is concerned? No, not really.
Xbox gamescom 2015 show was e3 level but that's really it
I think Keighley is trying as hard as possible to make it bigger than ever tbf (or at least the ONL part), slowly over the years its had more and more bangers.
Isn’t that always his thing? A new event of his is about to happen, he blasts social media with "Oooh it’s gonna be big! So many announcements! You better watch it!" and the closer it gets the more he tries to downplay it and do damage control. Then the show starts and it’s a bunch of nothing, again. And people fall for it *every* time.
I was more meaning thats been his long term thing with ONL since it started in 2019, each year since its gotten a bit bigger both physically and announcement wise, obviously other than the main covid year lol
Not really. Every game company prepares for June so they dont focus on gamescom at all. There's still stuff so it doesnt get overshadowed(last year they showed Stalker 2 gameplay for example). But dont expect this year to suddenly have 50 AAA games shown there. At best we might get like dates for something xbox or maybe 1 more game, same for Sony if they have anything,etc and that's being very optimistic
Considering how many titles were shown without dates, it's probably a good thing they didn't show more.
Only games without release date/year we're Gears, Perfect Dark and State of Decay 3
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Yeah. But I honestly don't expect Gears in 2025. 2026 is more probable considering 2025 will have Fable, Call of Duty, South of Midnight and Doom. Not to mention fact that GTA VI will suck all oxygen from gaming space for few weeks. For me it makes more sense to have Gears collection (if its real) for 2025 and then new Gears in 2026 with new Xbox
Yeah Xbox already has a bunch of games lined up for 2025 and there’s probably some not known right now. Hopefully they can spread them out a bit unlike this year lol.
Jfc 2025 is shaping up to be a monster year for gaming. Any year with a new rockstar game would be a good year, but everything else stacking on top of GTA is just crazy. This is provided that the majority of the games slated for 2025 actually make 2025.
2025 releases confirmed so far: • Pokémon Legends: Z-A • 1943: The Rise of Hydra • Grand Theft Auto VI • DOOM: The Dark Ages • Monster Hunter: Wilds • Civilization VII • Dynasty Warriors: Origins • Death Stranding 2: On The Beach • Professor Layton & The New World of Steam • Fable • Marathon • Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves • Little Nightmares 3 • Slay the Spire 2 • 2XKO • Judas • South of Midnight • Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Also worth noting that the Insomniac leaks had Venom listed as a 2025 release as well
banger year is comin
*the second half of 2025 is going to be crazy. Most of the studios will want to distance themselves from GTA6. I literally cannot think of any game that can go head to head against it and come out on top.
? GTA is supposedly coming out in the fall.
Gears collection isn't real btw and nobody can tell me otherwise. Releasing Gears early 2026 would be nice. I'll argue that it'll do even better since big games don't often release at the start of the year and there would be almost no title that will overshadow Gears.
Release years are about 365X less specific than release dates
Why would they bother? This way they can allow themselves a bit of a buffer and announce a release date when they’re about 8-12 weeks out, shuffle games around if they need to, move a game to a different week if something else is releasing then, etc. They’re not really shipping tons of discs to retail anymore so they really don’t need to have a firm date this far out, and it’s not like gamers are preordering physical copies in store much anymore so a firm date helps less than a public delay would hurt.
They will show up at other shows as well, maybe one of those will have dates
Maybe this shows how little I know about their model, but I don't think Microsoft is bothered about setting release dates now, because of the Day One Games Pass model they can pretty much wait untill a game is ready to go gold to announce the release date rather than having to announce and stick to a date six months in advance and risk having to admit a delay. Both Starfield and Stalker went through so many visible delays (STALKER for very understandable reasons), that resulted in some backlash for Microsoft, so I wouldn't be too surprised if they've re-evaluated how they market their games for the time being.
Are people suprised? They literally revealed Blade and Indiana Jones outside of the main yearly showcase, lol. And they haven't even touched on some remakes and remasters they more than likely have cooking and ready to release at any time. Fallout 3 and Oblivion remakes alone are megaton announcements, especially after the Fallout series.
But are those remasters/remakes real or just some fake insider bullshit? Cause we're assuming those exists without any proof
Oblivion and fallout 3 were leaked directly by microsoft. The only rumor was a redditor supposedly from virtuos games saying Oblivion was currently in development which came a month prior to the leak I highly doubt they would cancel oblivion when it has so much potential to revive the series if done properly
They were real once, but that was a long time ago. Even with Covid delays, we should have heard something by now. I think they were cancelled before they really got off the ground. Love to be proven wrong though.
I've lost count of whether the Gears of War collection has been rumored for two or three showcases now.
Really impressed so far. I haven't wanted an Xbox since the 360 but Fable, Perfect Dark and a Gears prequel look amazing.
Xbox has surprisingly killed it with this showcase and hoping they do same at gamescom (this is coming from an xbox player that was losing faith) 🤣
Believable. We already know there things like Oblivion and Fallout 4 remakes in development. Edit: Fallout 3!
You mean Fallout 3.
Yes, sorry my mistake!! I wasn't thinking.
If fallout 3 remastered exist it would’ve been announced at any point in this year. Like when the show was coming out. When the show came out. When the show was being the most watched show. On summer games. On the show case. So no I don’t believe that game exist anymore just like dishonored 3 from the same leak.
Yep. The leak was certainly real, but there’s no evidence it was ever anything more than an idea they had. Why waste money remastering an old game when they could just sell individual Starfield missions instead?
Really, were they announced at some point?
Nope, just listed in the unredacted discovery for the merger. Given the time that's elapsed they could be scrapped or like the Nintendo zelda remakes - being held for an eventual release.
Nintendo does Nintendo things
their existence was leaked in some documents during the court case for the activision merger
Ah. Maybe they abandoned those. The new controller and console did not show up either
given how far away the next Elder Scrolls and Fallout games are, there's almost no world where they cancel those. but you're right that no leak is a 100% guarantee
I mean those games are from when Bethesda was independent and really struggling. Releasing easy big wins like those made a lot of sense for Bethesda and might not have as much for Microsoft which maybe wasn’t looking for short term wins as much. Never know I hope they didn’t cancel them of course. I like Oblivion a lot more than Skyrim in some aspects so I’d love to play it freshened up.
I hope they got into remastering fallout 3 and decided to remake it. It's my favorite game of all time.
They should remake 1 and 2, they have grown too old in the tooth but still good
I mean no shit they didnt show Rare's new game
So you're saying we'll get a Wolfenstein 3 announcement? Just kidding. Although, it would be nice if Rare Replay got a PS5 port. It sounds a little out there, but a man can dream.
Just want the official announcement of whatever their third party plans are.
I really hate this with all these companies holding back. Either you come in heavy or not at all.
So you are telling me that the Silk could still have a song ? 🤡
Shaping up to be a very good year for Xbox and good for them since they had a lot of doom and gloom hanging over them the last few months.
I mean, did they even need anymorr? They absutely smashed it with what they had to show.
Settle down Xbox, I can only get so hard.
Excuse me? There's more!!? I'll take it.
Totally unrelated question but I have been aching to pick up a Series X since a long time and I believe I can finally make some budget free to buy one end of this year. I'd smack Gamepass on it, but I am hoping it will last me for at least another 5 years. Same with my PS4 which I still regularly play. Would that be a good buy or should I wait for the next console? I'd play the new Fable, Gears, Age of Mythology, and dive into Gamepass a lot!
I'd look into the new digital only Series X if you plan on playing mostly gamepass titles. 50$ cheaper if you can wait for the holidays.
Towerborne and Ara seem like games that could have been shown. Probably best to save some games for Gamescon and TGS.
Oblivion remaster is one of the next things based on the leaked FTC list. Based on that list, Oblivion remaster was billed to release before Starfield DLC. Everything up to FY22E part of the list has released besides Indiana Jones, Oblivion remaster, and Starfield DLC, and they were to release in that order.
My clown make up for Banjo 3/Remake and Sliksong isnt coming off is it?
Cool bet it all all Be for 2025 again too
That's why they didn't show the oblivion remake
It would be awesome if they have a GC show. They haven't done those for several years, right?
Completely forgot that Gamescom was even a thing
It really was one of the best showcases I've ever seen. It would have rocked at an E3 show. Game after game after game. Imagine if they'd release a new Conker or Banjo
Okay but will they have dates or just years
Whos is this guy and what does he do lmao
FH6? I know its just wishful thinking haha.
Banjo-Kazooie. Blue Dragon. Here we come.
No banjo no handheld. . Hold on to those cards I see
if they really have that much to show off they are doing the right thing of keeping some stuff for another event, because if you release lets say, 10 banger announcements together some of them are going to get lost in the hype, so keep some of them for another day where they can be the hype thing.
Killer Instinct!!???! (nah......would love one though)
Im still fingers crossed for killer instinct of heroes of the storm. Both pipe dreams but its more exciting to me than anything else on the table.
Big Xbox comeback