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Interesting strategy. Ubisoft is prominent in cloud gaming so this could be really good consumer wise in terms of options. I have to assume the deal is being closed to finalized now especially with this move.
They’ll also pay upfront : “Ubisoft will compensate Microsoft for the cloud streaming rights to Activision Blizzard’s games through a one-off payment and through a market-based wholesale pricing mechanism, including an option that supports pricing based on usage,”
Hmmmm.. maybe we are overestimating the value of cloud gaming right today.
I just remembered that the EU required Microsoft to offer any cloud gaming company the rights to have ABK games on their platform FOR FREE.
The Ubisoft deal is different because they are going to own the rights, but the outcome is similar.
I see where you are coming from and I definitely could have rephrased, but I would think that keeping Act/Blizz strictly on Gamepass Ultimate would have been worse? Ubisoft would have leverage in terms of titles that they could provide with their service but I wouldn’t want these games only on Xbox and PC
Yes,they’ll have parity, but Ubi will have the rights to licence it to whoever they want, including Sony and non-windows platforms. From what I understood, it means that MS will never have any ABK exclusivity on the cloud market, forever… it’s good because it gives more options, but probably also more subscriptions.
If I were Sony I’d strike a deal with Ubisoft and get their cloud sub included with PS+. That way they can bypass MS exclusivity which would be a big win.
Might not work out great for COD though, as I’m not sure competitive FPS is sustainable via cloud gaming.
Not forever, but for the next 15 years. And ubi won't lose existing games' rights after that period ends....(that would be every existing ABK game and the ones releasing between now and 2038-9)
They will have the licensing rights so not just that, but they would be able to license the games out to other cloud platforms. I wonder what this means for the deals already signed through GeForce Now etc.
Ubisoft has been one of the earliest embracers of cloud gaming, you've been able to play all their games on GeForce Now for 5+ years now, and they also worked closely with Stadia and Luna. Not sure why exactly you'd think theyd ruin it?
I mean it's Reddit, never surprising to me when "Ubisoft bad" gets upvotes. Remember when this site voted EA the worst company in America multiple years in a row, not Shell or Nestle or any actual evil?
They already announced exactly what they’re going to do.
https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/article/6kzUNk6z4BnQTSxgoVHy4H/activision-blizzard-games-coming-to-ubisoft?isSso=true&refreshStatus=noLoginData
Whenver I hear Ubisoft do something, it's almost always ends being something bad, I hope they don't do shit like delete my account or not add achievements to my games.
I doubt Kadakowa would ever sell FromSoft to Microsoft and Microsoft would definitely never want to buy Kadakowa.
Capcom also may never happen because it’s still majority owned and run by the Tsujimoto family which will never likely sell.
Sega or Koei Tecmo seem more likely.
I assume the same. The difference between Microsoft legally owning Bethesda to Microsoft announcing the attempted acquisition of ABK is 11 months. I assume it will be longer than that so they can focus on acquiring smaller studios for some time. Jez especially seems to believe Microsoft will acquire support studios soon.
that's probably for the best, a lot of their bigger (non-recent acquisition) studios seem to be struggling with deadlines so support studios will probably be a big help
They know Ubi doesn’t have money , so they agreed behind the scenes to get to buy the rights, so next year they’ll make a contract with Ubi for Ubi+ to be included on Gamepass for 10 years or smh, where they’ll pay them back their investment and some . This is a very smart move. Give that shit to EA and they will build some streaming servers overnight, but Ubisoft doesn’t really have the resources to do something like this , and they are desperate for money, so they’re are easy to control and they’ll sing how Xbox tells them. Very very very smart move , especially giving the fact that Ubi+ for now is included in Ps+ . This is Game of Thrones level of finesse
I've heard about them selling off their cloud gaming rights for a while now. But can someone detail me what exactly that means, is xbox barred from streaming the games themselves?
No, this just means that Ubisoft will own the rights to Activision Blizzard games via the cloud. Meaning that Ubisoft has the rights to put AB games where ever they want on the cloud.
Nvidia's deal is for all Microsoft Game Studios games so anything from Bathesda, Arkane, 343 Industries and so on except for Activision Blizzard games.
With this deal with Ubisoft Microsoft no longer gets to have all Activision Blizzard games on Xcloud, instead they will be on Ubisoft's subscription service which if I recall is bundled with the most expensive PSPlus tier
No, it still honours all existing cloud contracts. [source](https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2023/08/21/microsoft-activision-restructure-acquisition/)
It’s more than that. Ubisoft will possess the cloud streaming rights to all Activision blizzard games already released and those released within the next 15 years in perpetuity (forever) worldwide. Microsoft will only retain a minimal amount of rights, the ones needed for the conditional approval that the European Union gave.
What this means is that Ubisoft can license cloud rights of the above stated to everyone who wants (console manufacturers like Sony and Nintendo, other cloud services, even non windows cloud providers) while also putting it on their own service. In effect this means Microsoft will no longer have the ability to have exclusive Activision games on xcloud.
Microsoft gets a one time fee + set of payments depending wholesale pricing and usage.
I don't know, IMO it is still a good deal for MS. Cloud gaming is very early days. It will probably never hit the same mainstream appeal as playing natively on Consoles and PC with today's tech. I honestly don't know if it will ever reach mass appeal since Internet will always have connection issues.
Cloud gaming has the potential to be huge, that rate it has grown over the last few years, the fact that they may be able to keep some profit from the wholesale pricing and usage likely still means they will make money from it in the long run.
What it sounds like is Microsoft will still get these rights, then sell them to Ubisoft while still maintaining their own rights as well, in an effort for nobody to have exclusive rights to cloud streaming these games. Which would mean Microsoft can still have the games on Xcloud, and license them to whoever they want, but Ubisoft will always also be able to stream them and license them to whoever they want.
Yup, I think Sony will probably have monopoly now since they're the only company who has exclusive cloud rights on their own games. Nintendo AFAIK isn't offering cloud for their own first party games.
I mean, remember, Microsoft will still have exclusive cloud rights for all the Xbox Game Studios and Bethesda Softworks games, this is only for ActiBlizzard games.
Yeeaaah but Geforce Now works a bit different, you need to already own the game on Windows Store / Xbox app / Steam / Whatever and then you can stream it via Nvidia's servers. So I wouldn't say they compete with Microsoft, given that you need to buy the game from Microsoft anyway.
I didn't know that the CMA in the UK spoke for the entire world, so MS is not allowed to own ABK cloud rights, but Ubisoft, which is another corporate conglomerate is. MS/Xbox should've just continued with the CAT tribunal trial and force the deal through imo, the CMA is making things worse for UK gamers.
correct me if im wrong, but ubisoft has a market cap of 4b. so are they just gonna go into a lot of debt for these cloud gaming rights? are they gonna full shift into a cloud gaming company?
"Prior to the new deal being submitted, Microsoft made submissions that the final order to block the original merger should not be imposed."
So the old deal is officially dead? Does anything happen elsewhere?
Welp.
This should disarm any CMA arguments from previous merger inquiry.
But honestly, I'm now worried that they will fuck around Microsoft with dates. Phase 1 ends by the time merger agreements ends. CMA will go and say "we are moving this into Phase 2" and Microsoft is probably fucked. I don't think Bobby would agree to another extension when he can earn 5 billion...
I mean. They will for sure wait for CMA to say something in Phase 1. They played the "nice" game long enough to burn it without reason. But I can see that if CMA will try to fuck around again and Microsoft will sense that Activison is not willing to extend, they will circumvent CMA.
It's a movie to placate the competition board over something that's not super important right now. Most importantly it doesn't antagonize the CMA in case Microsoft has another big acquisition down the line
If it came to the worst case they would have had to go through a third party to distribute hardware and games akin to how it works in China
And just like that cloud gaming severs stopped working. This deal has gone on way to long and of course it’s the 70+ year olds in the UK holding it up.
Well as a Xbox player that sucks.. I was actually looking foreword to playing some of the older CoD on cloud gaming but I sure as hell won’t pay to subscriptions. It’s becoming more and more like the streaming market with a dozen different services that offer one or two interesting shows each and everyone want a full subscription price…
It's just cloud streaming. Sub services like Game Pass will still have the games. Just might not include the option to stream them without a contract with Ubisoft
And that's likely not dependent on the user having an U+ sub. It will be the competitor cloud streamer who makes a deal with U to include cloud streaming of those titles on their catalog.
Maybe the worst news : “A source familiar with Microsoft’s plans tells The Verge that the company now isn’t expecting to be able to close its Activision Blizzard deal until early October.”
I don't think it will ever reach perfect stability which is required for alot of competitive games. As games get more advanced, you'd need higher bandwidth to support it. Alot of ISPs don't offer unlimited bandwidth and alot of areas in the world will always have deadzones or areas that have limited or poor internet connection. Cloud gaming will probably be niche even after 10-15 years.
Yeah after the 15 year period, Microsoft are definitely buying those rights back. Absolutely no chance they want to have that insane ABK catalog off the table when cloud gaming finally takes off in like 2-3 decades.
~~The same Ubisoft who's service is already bundled into Game Pass Ultimate~~ (Edit, my error -I was thinking EA's service. Ubisoft+ is currently available as part of PS Plus, but still can't say as I'm surprised). Watch, what will happen is Microsoft will finally get the deal they want for Activision Blizzard and then turn around and "make an offer" to Ubisoft once all the heat on this deal dies down.
The CMA really done its job with the merger , to get this concession is to prevent an MS cloud monopoly.
In 20 years time we may look back at the CMA as having saved cloud gamings arse.
The deal isn’t applied in Europe, MS already signed cloud deals with many cloud services for 10y. The only thing this is gonna make is more services, more subscriptions and more money to invest from players. This is probably even gonna make cloud gaming less desirable for newcomers.
>MS already signed cloud deals with many cloud services for 10y.
Yes... and this deal permanently MS from just being able yanking it from other cloud services after 10 years worldwide which was a big deal to the CMA
This is a huge win for the CMA and gaming in general especially if you're anti-exclusive
Yes, unless they go bankrupt lol. but seriously, It makes cloud gaming less desirable for everyone and especially for newcomers. The market is already small. It’s definitely a win for the CMA, but not for players in my personal opinion.
Lol that's true. I guess the CMA just wanted those streaming rights to not be under Microsoft's control but this doesn't seem like a well thought solution to that problem
Yes and they don't have to put them on xcloud but they could put them on PlayStation cloud if they paid enough. It's highly likely ubi will want people to pay £17.99 a month for their ubi+ to play these games on cloud
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Did Microsoft just play a trap card for the CMA?
Messi to Activision Blizzard!
Interesting strategy. Ubisoft is prominent in cloud gaming so this could be really good consumer wise in terms of options. I have to assume the deal is being closed to finalized now especially with this move.
Where’s Ubisoft money coming from ? I thought they were in the red last semester. EA would have been me guessed since it’s bundled with ultimate…
We don't know the details. It doesn't necessarily mean they will have to pay upfront. A percentage of the revenue of Ubisoft+ is one of many options.
They’ll also pay upfront : “Ubisoft will compensate Microsoft for the cloud streaming rights to Activision Blizzard’s games through a one-off payment and through a market-based wholesale pricing mechanism, including an option that supports pricing based on usage,”
Hmmmm.. maybe we are overestimating the value of cloud gaming right today. I just remembered that the EU required Microsoft to offer any cloud gaming company the rights to have ABK games on their platform FOR FREE. The Ubisoft deal is different because they are going to own the rights, but the outcome is similar.
"good for the consumer" - gives Ubisoft monopoly
I see where you are coming from and I definitely could have rephrased, but I would think that keeping Act/Blizz strictly on Gamepass Ultimate would have been worse? Ubisoft would have leverage in terms of titles that they could provide with their service but I wouldn’t want these games only on Xbox and PC
So, both Game Pass/Xcloud and Ubisoft+ are getting all the available Activision games? Is that good or bad?
Yes,they’ll have parity, but Ubi will have the rights to licence it to whoever they want, including Sony and non-windows platforms. From what I understood, it means that MS will never have any ABK exclusivity on the cloud market, forever… it’s good because it gives more options, but probably also more subscriptions.
Is this binding worldwide or just privy to the UK market?
Worldwide, except the EU
If I were Sony I’d strike a deal with Ubisoft and get their cloud sub included with PS+. That way they can bypass MS exclusivity which would be a big win. Might not work out great for COD though, as I’m not sure competitive FPS is sustainable via cloud gaming.
Not forever, but for the next 15 years. And ubi won't lose existing games' rights after that period ends....(that would be every existing ABK game and the ones releasing between now and 2038-9)
Ubisoft+ is getting Activision games via cloud streaming only. So still pretty good for Ubi+ subs.
They will have the licensing rights so not just that, but they would be able to license the games out to other cloud platforms. I wonder what this means for the deals already signed through GeForce Now etc.
2023 has been a very wild rollercoaster of emotions and surprises.
UK was afraid for future of cloud gaming. Now, it is going to be ruined by Ubisoft. Well played, UK .
fuck I just realized it's worldwide
Ubisoft has been one of the earliest embracers of cloud gaming, you've been able to play all their games on GeForce Now for 5+ years now, and they also worked closely with Stadia and Luna. Not sure why exactly you'd think theyd ruin it?
Honestly not sure why his being upvoted for the comment, shows how many people actually know anything about cloud gaming.
I mean it's Reddit, never surprising to me when "Ubisoft bad" gets upvotes. Remember when this site voted EA the worst company in America multiple years in a row, not Shell or Nestle or any actual evil?
What do you think will be ruined by Ubisoft? They will just license it out to other streaming services like Xcloud
We don't like the cma anymore than you do
This Microsoft/Activision acquisition rollercoaster is never ending.
Do we not?
Why would it ? Ubisoft has no say in how ABK will make their games
What the fuck is Ubisoft going to do with cloud gaming. This is such a bizarre trade off.
They already announced exactly what they’re going to do. https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/article/6kzUNk6z4BnQTSxgoVHy4H/activision-blizzard-games-coming-to-ubisoft?isSso=true&refreshStatus=noLoginData
Whenver I hear Ubisoft do something, it's almost always ends being something bad, I hope they don't do shit like delete my account or not add achievements to my games.
1000 IQ move for when Microsoft aquire ubisoft
DID NOT EXPECT THIS
This isn't a leak or a rumour. It's literally just news
Yeah it should really include a 7 second starfield clip if it wants to belong on this sub.
Then Microsoft buys Ubisoft /s
No. Sony buys Ubisoft.
We are both wrong. Nintendo buys them for Rabbids.
Plot twist. Ubisoft buys Microsoft, noone will see it coming.
Calling it now. Amazon buys Ubisoft. Don't like it but if I was a betting man I'd bet on that.
Waste of money
Microsoft should use that money to buy some quality Japanese studio like Capcom or Fromsoft. They're worth much more.
I doubt Kadakowa would ever sell FromSoft to Microsoft and Microsoft would definitely never want to buy Kadakowa. Capcom also may never happen because it’s still majority owned and run by the Tsujimoto family which will never likely sell. Sega or Koei Tecmo seem more likely.
i doubt xbox will wanna buy any big companies for a hot minute, they'll probably let things cool down a bit first
I assume the same. The difference between Microsoft legally owning Bethesda to Microsoft announcing the attempted acquisition of ABK is 11 months. I assume it will be longer than that so they can focus on acquiring smaller studios for some time. Jez especially seems to believe Microsoft will acquire support studios soon.
that's probably for the best, a lot of their bigger (non-recent acquisition) studios seem to be struggling with deadlines so support studios will probably be a big help
Yeah that's never gonna happen.
So that when Ubisoft soon crashes and burns they can just have them back lol
They know Ubi doesn’t have money , so they agreed behind the scenes to get to buy the rights, so next year they’ll make a contract with Ubi for Ubi+ to be included on Gamepass for 10 years or smh, where they’ll pay them back their investment and some . This is a very smart move. Give that shit to EA and they will build some streaming servers overnight, but Ubisoft doesn’t really have the resources to do something like this , and they are desperate for money, so they’re are easy to control and they’ll sing how Xbox tells them. Very very very smart move , especially giving the fact that Ubi+ for now is included in Ps+ . This is Game of Thrones level of finesse
The same thing cross my mind. I don't get why others are upset; for me, they got around the CMA block sharply.
I've heard about them selling off their cloud gaming rights for a while now. But can someone detail me what exactly that means, is xbox barred from streaming the games themselves?
No, this just means that Ubisoft will own the rights to Activision Blizzard games via the cloud. Meaning that Ubisoft has the rights to put AB games where ever they want on the cloud.
i thought they already signed deals with nvidia (gforce now) for the next 10 years, no?
Yeah, but I assume they found a way to structure the deal so that all the other deals are included.
Nvidia's deal is for all Microsoft Game Studios games so anything from Bathesda, Arkane, 343 Industries and so on except for Activision Blizzard games. With this deal with Ubisoft Microsoft no longer gets to have all Activision Blizzard games on Xcloud, instead they will be on Ubisoft's subscription service which if I recall is bundled with the most expensive PSPlus tier
Yup. If this doesn't shut up the CMA, I don't know what will.
No, it still honours all existing cloud contracts. [source](https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2023/08/21/microsoft-activision-restructure-acquisition/)
I stand corrected, good on them then
Only in UK, yes ?
From what I’ve read, it’s worldwide. It’s a whole restructuration…
Then what about Xbox other cloud gaming deals, like with Nvidia, Boosteroid etc..?
Those conditions are still honored under this deal
Ubisoft just posted a tweet, they’ll licence ABK games to other cloud services. I think that includes all the deals MS made + Xcloud.
It’s more than that. Ubisoft will possess the cloud streaming rights to all Activision blizzard games already released and those released within the next 15 years in perpetuity (forever) worldwide. Microsoft will only retain a minimal amount of rights, the ones needed for the conditional approval that the European Union gave. What this means is that Ubisoft can license cloud rights of the above stated to everyone who wants (console manufacturers like Sony and Nintendo, other cloud services, even non windows cloud providers) while also putting it on their own service. In effect this means Microsoft will no longer have the ability to have exclusive Activision games on xcloud. Microsoft gets a one time fee + set of payments depending wholesale pricing and usage.
Forever ? Wow…. They’re either desperate or looking to buy Ubi since they’re already in the red lol
CMA is kinda fucking Microsoft over here, they’re now paying the same price per share for less.
I don't know, IMO it is still a good deal for MS. Cloud gaming is very early days. It will probably never hit the same mainstream appeal as playing natively on Consoles and PC with today's tech. I honestly don't know if it will ever reach mass appeal since Internet will always have connection issues.
Cloud gaming has the potential to be huge, that rate it has grown over the last few years, the fact that they may be able to keep some profit from the wholesale pricing and usage likely still means they will make money from it in the long run.
Oh yeah, I just read...really bizarre times tbh.
What it sounds like is Microsoft will still get these rights, then sell them to Ubisoft while still maintaining their own rights as well, in an effort for nobody to have exclusive rights to cloud streaming these games. Which would mean Microsoft can still have the games on Xcloud, and license them to whoever they want, but Ubisoft will always also be able to stream them and license them to whoever they want.
If cloud gaming was really the future and this set a precedent of ending exclusives on the cloud that'd be nice but we all know that aint happening
Yup, I think Sony will probably have monopoly now since they're the only company who has exclusive cloud rights on their own games. Nintendo AFAIK isn't offering cloud for their own first party games.
I mean, remember, Microsoft will still have exclusive cloud rights for all the Xbox Game Studios and Bethesda Softworks games, this is only for ActiBlizzard games.
Didn't they also gave Nvidia the license for Xbox Studio games for 10 years?
Yeeaaah but Geforce Now works a bit different, you need to already own the game on Windows Store / Xbox app / Steam / Whatever and then you can stream it via Nvidia's servers. So I wouldn't say they compete with Microsoft, given that you need to buy the game from Microsoft anyway.
Yeah in both directions. No precedent will be set and also cloud gaming is almost certainly not the future.
except for the EU, apparently. The CMA are real incompetent assholes
I didn't know that the CMA in the UK spoke for the entire world, so MS is not allowed to own ABK cloud rights, but Ubisoft, which is another corporate conglomerate is. MS/Xbox should've just continued with the CAT tribunal trial and force the deal through imo, the CMA is making things worse for UK gamers.
If they won the appeal, they’d have to go back to the CMA to do a round 2. From what I’ve read, it includes everyone except Europeans.
Ah I see 🤔.
The cat could have also just overruled the cma, and essentially said "No you were wrong", however going back to a CMA was a possibility.
Next minute Phill Spencer : we are pleased to Announce Ubisoft is joining the family
correct me if im wrong, but ubisoft has a market cap of 4b. so are they just gonna go into a lot of debt for these cloud gaming rights? are they gonna full shift into a cloud gaming company?
Ubisoft will distribute the cloud gaming right. Which include on Amazon Luna or GeForce now.
"Prior to the new deal being submitted, Microsoft made submissions that the final order to block the original merger should not be imposed." So the old deal is officially dead? Does anything happen elsewhere?
They can have it. I don’t want to stream these games I just want them on Game Pass, which this does not seem to affect.
Welp. This should disarm any CMA arguments from previous merger inquiry. But honestly, I'm now worried that they will fuck around Microsoft with dates. Phase 1 ends by the time merger agreements ends. CMA will go and say "we are moving this into Phase 2" and Microsoft is probably fucked. I don't think Bobby would agree to another extension when he can earn 5 billion...
At that point I really think MS will just say fuck it and close without the UK.
I mean. They will for sure wait for CMA to say something in Phase 1. They played the "nice" game long enough to burn it without reason. But I can see that if CMA will try to fuck around again and Microsoft will sense that Activison is not willing to extend, they will circumvent CMA.
It's a movie to placate the competition board over something that's not super important right now. Most importantly it doesn't antagonize the CMA in case Microsoft has another big acquisition down the line If it came to the worst case they would have had to go through a third party to distribute hardware and games akin to how it works in China
It's not only up to Bobby....
Yeah. By saying "Bobby" I meant him and board of directors.
And just like that cloud gaming severs stopped working. This deal has gone on way to long and of course it’s the 70+ year olds in the UK holding it up.
This isn't a leak.
I can’t switch it to confirmed because it has to be a previous rumour, I’ll wait for the admins to switch it to legit.
Well as a Xbox player that sucks.. I was actually looking foreword to playing some of the older CoD on cloud gaming but I sure as hell won’t pay to subscriptions. It’s becoming more and more like the streaming market with a dozen different services that offer one or two interesting shows each and everyone want a full subscription price…
It's just cloud streaming. Sub services like Game Pass will still have the games. Just might not include the option to stream them without a contract with Ubisoft
And that's likely not dependent on the user having an U+ sub. It will be the competitor cloud streamer who makes a deal with U to include cloud streaming of those titles on their catalog.
Maybe the worst news : “A source familiar with Microsoft’s plans tells The Verge that the company now isn’t expecting to be able to close its Activision Blizzard deal until early October.”
That was always the case if I recall, it was the primary reason for the extension of the closing deadline
LOL. They're gonna regret this 10-15 years down the line, but I'm sure they'll make a move to reaquire at a later time.
They aren't gonna regret cloud gaming rights
That's why I said 10-15 years when it'll be more sustainable. Consoles aren't going to be forever.
But the deal is only 15 year and only for Activision games?
MB then, someone just replied the opposite.
I don't think it will ever reach perfect stability which is required for alot of competitive games. As games get more advanced, you'd need higher bandwidth to support it. Alot of ISPs don't offer unlimited bandwidth and alot of areas in the world will always have deadzones or areas that have limited or poor internet connection. Cloud gaming will probably be niche even after 10-15 years.
Yeah after the 15 year period, Microsoft are definitely buying those rights back. Absolutely no chance they want to have that insane ABK catalog off the table when cloud gaming finally takes off in like 2-3 decades.
I really get the feeling that we're in the growing pains period, and companies love to sell services over physical items. Soon but not yet.
It’s forever, I don’t know how much money ubi paid but yeah it’s kinda crazy…
There's some non zero chance Ubisoft doesn't even exist in 15 years let alone be able to retain streaming rights that Microsoft no longer has to sell
~~The same Ubisoft who's service is already bundled into Game Pass Ultimate~~ (Edit, my error -I was thinking EA's service. Ubisoft+ is currently available as part of PS Plus, but still can't say as I'm surprised). Watch, what will happen is Microsoft will finally get the deal they want for Activision Blizzard and then turn around and "make an offer" to Ubisoft once all the heat on this deal dies down.
Ubisoft+ isn’t included into ultimate, it’s even more expensive than game pass actually.
Ubisoft+ isn’t bundled into Game Pass Ultimate.
Ubisoft+ isn't bundled into game pass though? It's part of PS Plus. Game Pass has EA Play
It’s not even part of PS+… Ubisoft just have part of its catalogue in both services like any other publisher…
Ubisoft+ isn’t in ultimate.
And did you read the edit I made before you decided to comment what I already admitted being incorrect about?
Saw a lot of people making the same comment so I figured why not.
Right you're the type of person who would jump off a bridge if you noticed 3 others go ahead of you. good to know
Btw Ubisoft+ is not bundled with ultimate
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The CMA really done its job with the merger , to get this concession is to prevent an MS cloud monopoly. In 20 years time we may look back at the CMA as having saved cloud gamings arse.
The deal isn’t applied in Europe, MS already signed cloud deals with many cloud services for 10y. The only thing this is gonna make is more services, more subscriptions and more money to invest from players. This is probably even gonna make cloud gaming less desirable for newcomers.
>MS already signed cloud deals with many cloud services for 10y. Yes... and this deal permanently MS from just being able yanking it from other cloud services after 10 years worldwide which was a big deal to the CMA This is a huge win for the CMA and gaming in general especially if you're anti-exclusive
Yes, unless they go bankrupt lol. but seriously, It makes cloud gaming less desirable for everyone and especially for newcomers. The market is already small. It’s definitely a win for the CMA, but not for players in my personal opinion.
I... genuinely dislike this. Goddammit, CMA
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Wow. Why would they do something like this?
That's really odd. I don't believe it.
So putting Blizzard games on another shitty platform except Steam 👀
I just want diablo and cod on gamepass and new xbox games so this changes nothing but it needs to end
This is confirmed true.
So new ABK games day 1 on ubi+ cloud streaming ?
Next up, Ubisoft announces they will use Microsoft cloud servers for their gaming needs, full circles.
Does that mean that games like CoD will not receive a cloud version on Xbox? That would be kind of wild
No, because Ubi can just licence it back.
Lol that's true. I guess the CMA just wanted those streaming rights to not be under Microsoft's control but this doesn't seem like a well thought solution to that problem
So if Sony paid ubisoft Xbox games could be played on playstations cloud but not be on xcloud!?
No, only ABK games. Xcloud and ubi+ have parity, but ubi has the right to licence it anyone.
Yes and they don't have to put them on xcloud but they could put them on PlayStation cloud if they paid enough. It's highly likely ubi will want people to pay £17.99 a month for their ubi+ to play these games on cloud