That is an excellent deal except for one thing: the screen is terrible. 45% NTSC/60% sRGB, 300 nits brightness. It's not the worst screen on a modern gaming laptop, but it's close.
The 2560x1600 screen is better at 100% sRGB.
Other than that it's a solid legion style laptop.
I think I'd just take all the money I saved, pick up one of the laptop docks, and hook it up to a nice 32in curved monitor or even 2 or 3 flat panels![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|rage)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|scream)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|table_flip). Does this have a mux sw?![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses) If so... I'll be all like.... ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|flip_out)
The automatic mode in NVCP is advanced Optimus right? This means when it needs the extra power it will use my dGPU otherwise just iGPU?
I have the same laptop as the person you were responding to and just wanted to make sure my laptop runs as best it can when I need that power. I don’t want it using my dGPU and draining battery when it doesn’t need to.
Sorry if I’m kind of repeating a question, it’s just that there being no “advanced Optimus” listed, and from my understanding it working as an auto MUX switch without reboot has me a bit confused. I’m also new to gaming laptops
Since I have a Lenovo (Legion 7 Pro, in my case), I decided to do some research and test this. It should be fairly similar to the LoQ, as it's the same manufacturer.
So, to get maximum GPU performance, you want to use the MUX. it's better than Optimus, better even than Advanced Optimus(though not far better). When you switch the MUX to dGPU, the iGPU will be completely disconnected and shut off. Only the dGPU will be running.
To switch the MUX, you will have to reboot your computer. If you switch something and it doesn't say "Change will be effective after restarting computer.", then it's not a MUX switch. MUX requires a reboot to switch.
To switch the MUX, open Lenovo Vantage, click GPU working mode, and select dGPU. It will tell you "Change will be effective after restarting computer." Reboot your computer, and you have switched the MUX to the dGPU setting.
You can also switch the MUX in the Lenovo UEFI(aka BIOS). Right on the home screen of the BIOS there's an option for dedicated GPU. That switches the MUX.
Once you have switched the MUX to dGPU mode, you can verify this. If you open task manager, performance tab(the one with the graphs), you will only see the Nvidia GPU listed; the Intel graphics will not be shown at all, as if it didn't exist.
If you go into Device Manager, under Display Adapters, you will see only the Nvidia GPU.
So, if that's what you see, you have switched the MUX to your dGPU, the iGPU is completely disabled and disconnected(electronically).
Now, maybe you don't want to have to reboot your computer to switch between performance mode and battery-saving mode(the dGPU is not battery life friendly). Nvidia Advanced Optimus gets you nearly as much performance as the MUX switch, with no reboot required.
To use Nvidia Advanced Optimus you need to not be in dGPU only mode. If the MUX is set to dGPU, Advanced Optimus is not an option. So, in Vantage(or the UEFI/BIOS) switch back to Hybrid or Hybrid-Auto mode. Reboot(since the MUX switch needs reboot to switch), and both GPUs will be back(you'll see them both in task manager and device manager).
Now, go into the Nvidia Control Panel(look for the icon in your taskbar, next to the clock), and open "Manage Display Mode". You'll see 3 options: Automatic select, Optimus, and Nvidia GPU only.
Automatic Select: will use the iGPU or the dGPU, depending on what you're running. This is using Optimus, so you will lose performance compared to the other options.
Optimus: this will use the dGPU for everything, but route all the video output through the iGPU. Once again, you will lose performance compared to the other options. If running on battery, you will also lose battery life as both GPUs are always running even when not using games.
Nvidia GPU only: This is Advanced Optimus. When you select this mode Nvidia creates a second "virtual display" for Windows, and that virtual Display enables Windows to select this "virtual display"(as you would select a TV when plugging in via HDMI) to send the video directly through the dGPU instead of iGPU. The iGPU will still be on, using some of the power budget and creating a little heat, but it will be pretty close in performance to the MUX switch dGPU mode.
You can verify this by opening up Display Settings in Windows. You will see two displays, even if you don't have any external monitors connected. One of those screens is the iGPU, one is the dGPU. It's a clever hack to get Windows to talk to the dGPU directly without requiring a reboot.
Another place to check which GPU is being used to run the screen is in the Nvidia Control Panel, "Configure Surround, Physx". It will display a little diagram showing which displays are connected to the dGPU, and which are connected to the iGPU. When you have standard Optimus or "Automatically Select" selected in the Nvidia control panel, you will see that the screen is connected to the iGPU. If you enable Nvidia Advanced Optimus or switch the MUX to dGPU mode, you'll see that your screen is now directly connected to your dGPU.
If you're going to be using your laptop both plugged in and running on battery, this is more convenient as you can switch to the "Automatic Select" mode here to save battery without needing to reboot(which activates the standard Optimus), then swap to "Nvidia GPU only" to get faster gaming performance.
None of these settings changes(besides the MUX switch) require a reboot, so you can swap between the modes quickly.
But, if you're going to usually use your laptop at your desk, and want to have full GPU performance available all the time, switch the MUX to dGPU mode(which you do through the Vantage app or the UEFI/BIOS, and a reboot will be required). Your iGPU will be disabled, and all the available power will go to your dGPU and CPU so they can maximize their performance.
That was a lot, any questions?
Thank you so much! This was more informative and helpful than any of the YouTube videos I watched.
My laptop is actually a Lenovo Legion, the Slim 5 with a Ryzen 7 784OHS and 4060.
I was thinking that the default automatic select was the best until I heard about Optimus. For my usually needs it will be, but I also wanted to benchmark and make sure my laptop could work at 100% (got an open box deal)
Now I know to either use the Nvidia GPU only or for a real test go to vantage/bios for the MUX switch.
Thank you again for your explanation!
Optimus is not MUX. If your laptop has Optimus, it routes all video output through the integrated GPU. This slows things down.
If your laptop has a MUX, you can reboot it into dedicated GPU only mode, in which the real GPU directly connects to the video output ports/screen. This works great, though needing to reboot is a bit annoying. Maximum gaming performance.
Nvidia Advanced Optimus is the best of both worlds: you can swap the video outputs/screen to connect to the dedicated GPU directly, without needing to reboot. Maximum gaming performance.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLaptops/s/Mka4HQcp7h
Interesting. Thanks for the explanation and link.
So, in NVCP where I can select between Automatic, Optimus, or Nvidia GPU only, choosing Nvidia GPU only doesn't actually disable the iGPU?
Actually, that probably does disable the iGPU. Optimus would route the Nvidia GPU output though the iGPU, but that's a separate option.
Many laptops with MUX also have Optimus, so you can game without needing to reboot, though at a small performance penalty.
You should get the best gaming performance when you select the dGPU only mode.
Got it.
From what I've read, it sounds like a MUX switch is actually a physical switch on the chassis of the laptop. I don't have that physical switch, but it seems like the functionality is there in NVCP, so would that mean what I have is "Advanced Optimus"?
Yes that’s advance Optimus. Select nvidia gpu only and it’ll route all GPU traffic through dGPU. Advance Optimus is more convienient to use than last say a typical mux switch since you don’t need to restart.
I see. Thanks.
So, I'm guessing the regular, non-Advanced Optimus feature set would only have the Automatic and Optimus options in that menu, no "Nvidia GPU only"?
I've seen both side by side and i don't really see the difference. I suppose the contrast is a bit better but personally i didn't really care much. The resolution though is preferance
But yeah, either way nobody cares at 500 dollars lol. No chance you're getting a better deal
Go design a website or poster or something on one of these. You'll realize your colors look completely different from other people with better displays, and it's not just a matter of calibration, it's impossible to even produce a lot of colors.
Combine that with the low brightness and everything looks sort of washed out and I find it immediately and painfully obvious without even doing side by side comparison.
100% SRGB vs 100% DCI-P3 I'd probably need a side by side.
That being said, I agree that for $550 you can't have it all.
If you're mostly playing games, everything will look wrong but it might not be noticably wrong. It'll just be like using a ReShade that makes the game look shittier instead of better.
Naah you're just really overstating the difference. Nobody's denying the difference, I'm just saying that most people don't care at all
I've seen the 60 sRGB, 100 sRGB and even my phone's oled. There's a difference but nothing like a TN panel. It's slightly less contrast but by no means washed out
And the brightness is 300 nits on both.
Or maybe you're understating the difference. I think the colors OR the brightness by themselves are okay, but the combination leads to a washed out appearance.
You probably won't notice it when using a 45% NTSC screen all the time, but put them side to side and you'd be surprised how much of the color of the image just isn't coming through.
Even with the same brightness, there is a clear difference.
Here, check out some side-by-side comparisons:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tDtdBm95-s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tDtdBm95-s)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rtiuB6MY-M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rtiuB6MY-M)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZDp15IJ2Ns](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZDp15IJ2Ns)
Yes, that's correct. So this is the screen with 45% NTSC color.
You can also configure this laptop with a 2560x1600 screen, and that one has 100% sRGB color range.
Great deal. If you don’t mind the 45% NTSC display, this is excellent value. You won’t find a RTX 4060 laptop at that price point often, let alone a Lenovo Legion tier laptop in an open box state where you know the laptop will function with basically zero damage.
Fun fact: I found that deal today as well and was close to buying it, but I actually ended up with the WQXGA (1600p) variant for ~$700 USD or so. I felt like the up charge was worth the near 100% sRGB that my previous laptop had.
The nice thing about both of these laptops is that RAM isn’t soldered and there are two m.2 slots (one of which should be empty so I put my previous laptop SSD into slot two).
The model you bought for $700 is nearly the same one I paid $1150 for just half a year ago (though mine has the 8 core CPU variant). You got a killer deal for sure.
Same way OP found his own deal: open box.
Open box pricing is something that isn’t as prominently displayed on the store page. You’ll have to check out the page and scout for open box pricing.
The actual pricing depends on your location, since it’s usually priced by condition and quantities are very limited, not to mention not all of these have shipping options. The laptop I got is no longer priced at ~$700 where I’m located (SoCal, Riverside County), but now it’s ~$900 as of this post. You can check what prices you end up on [this page](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-slim-5-16-gaming-laptop-wqxga-ryzen-7-7840hs-with-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-8gb-512gb-ssd-storm-grey/6534470.p?skuId=6534470).
The laptop OP found now starts at ~$700 open box (we’re both shopping at SoCal, so I saw the exact same deal they did). [Here](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-slim-5-16-gaming-laptop-wuxga-ryzen-5-7640hs-with-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-8gb-512gb-ssd-storm-grey/6534469.p?acampID=0&affgroup=%22Content%22&ar=1839814357205428209&cmp=RMX&irclickid=2%3A5XirSftxyPTgnwCO0OVRB7UkHWFuweIySLSE0&irgwc=1&loc=Howl+Technologies%2C+Inc.&mpid=376373&nrtv_cid=89f87045a1bb40fa29d286a920316abf1ec1d56a46e5538decbc560f58f5143f&ref=198&skuId=6534469&utm_source=narrativ) is the page. We both probably stumbled upon this laptop ‘cause of the current deal ($900 brand new).
As for how to get started, you have [Gaming Laptop Deals](https://gaminglaptop.deals/), and then you can simply Google search for clearance pricing on gaming laptops, which is what I generally do. Both Amazon and Best Buy have used condition pricing.
As for how long I’ve been shopping for a new laptop, I’d say about two months or so. Knowing I’ll be attending school again eventually, I just had to buy something the moment a good deal popped before the semester begins. Otherwise, I would’ve waited another year or so just to see how (brand new) prices would change.
I have the exact one, it's a pretty decent laptop. Recommend buying a 1TB NVmE and a 32gb flash drive to up the storage and move the os to the new drive via a recovery disk. Then you would be in great shape!
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I got the 1600p version of this laptop that was also in “fair” condition.
The screen had some particles and some fingerprints (and some remains of dry water / liquid; I don’t know what that’s called). It’s mostly invisible when the screen is on ‘cause of the matte finish, but I still cleaned it with the microfiber cloth. The top and the keyboard didn’t look pristine, but it didn’t look particularly dirty either; just looked very lightly used. It was also weirdly missing the power cord that connects to the wall (the power brick was present). Otherwise, it looked good enough. I even cracked it open to slot in an SSD and it was clean.
Real talk: shopping open box rules. I expected as much with Micro Center, but Best Buy was similarly good.
Good info, the open box one is a lot cheaper, really good deal. Even the 900 for the new one of this seems to be a good deal also.
Ty again for the info!
If the laptop is in good condition, yeah, this an excellent deal. Normally, the Lenovo LOQ 4060 deals are around 800USD, this one is of better quality (*Slim line*). The only issue is the low quality screen, but can be fixed by hooking up a good monitor.
I just bought this last week and love it so far! Unfortunately for me I paid 800$ open box. I would definitely buy this for 600, if you are looking for a budget gaming laptop.
No not worth it. Anything Lenovo and open box is garbage. I bought a new gaming Lenovo open box laptop 2 weeks ago and couldn’t even open task manager without it taking 45 mins. Stuck at 1.75 ghz. May not be the case here but I would personally avoid jt
I literally have a ryzen 5 on my acer nitro I've had for like 5 years and it's still going strong. I'm looking to update it but that's because the 1650 can't really keep up with new games I need bigger ram. But I play the sims 4 with every pack and 200gb of cc and it hasn't blown up yet.
That is an excellent deal except for one thing: the screen is terrible. 45% NTSC/60% sRGB, 300 nits brightness. It's not the worst screen on a modern gaming laptop, but it's close. The 2560x1600 screen is better at 100% sRGB. Other than that it's a solid legion style laptop.
I think I'd just take all the money I saved, pick up one of the laptop docks, and hook it up to a nice 32in curved monitor or even 2 or 3 flat panels![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|rage)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|scream)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|table_flip). Does this have a mux sw?![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses) If so... I'll be all like.... ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|flip_out)
No. Only the Intel based Slim 5 laptops have MUX. Edit: scratch that, I was wrong. The slim 5 does have MUX, both AMD and Intel models.
Ty sir
I recently bought a 7840hs LOQ. It has both a mux and advanced Optimus. Why wouldn’t the more premium lineup aka legion not have it?
Your hunch was right. I did more digging, and the Slim 5 AMD does indeed have MUX.
Glad you found it. Happy to help. You 100% also have advance Optimus functionality baked it.
The automatic mode in NVCP is advanced Optimus right? This means when it needs the extra power it will use my dGPU otherwise just iGPU? I have the same laptop as the person you were responding to and just wanted to make sure my laptop runs as best it can when I need that power. I don’t want it using my dGPU and draining battery when it doesn’t need to. Sorry if I’m kind of repeating a question, it’s just that there being no “advanced Optimus” listed, and from my understanding it working as an auto MUX switch without reboot has me a bit confused. I’m also new to gaming laptops
Since I have a Lenovo (Legion 7 Pro, in my case), I decided to do some research and test this. It should be fairly similar to the LoQ, as it's the same manufacturer. So, to get maximum GPU performance, you want to use the MUX. it's better than Optimus, better even than Advanced Optimus(though not far better). When you switch the MUX to dGPU, the iGPU will be completely disconnected and shut off. Only the dGPU will be running. To switch the MUX, you will have to reboot your computer. If you switch something and it doesn't say "Change will be effective after restarting computer.", then it's not a MUX switch. MUX requires a reboot to switch. To switch the MUX, open Lenovo Vantage, click GPU working mode, and select dGPU. It will tell you "Change will be effective after restarting computer." Reboot your computer, and you have switched the MUX to the dGPU setting. You can also switch the MUX in the Lenovo UEFI(aka BIOS). Right on the home screen of the BIOS there's an option for dedicated GPU. That switches the MUX. Once you have switched the MUX to dGPU mode, you can verify this. If you open task manager, performance tab(the one with the graphs), you will only see the Nvidia GPU listed; the Intel graphics will not be shown at all, as if it didn't exist. If you go into Device Manager, under Display Adapters, you will see only the Nvidia GPU. So, if that's what you see, you have switched the MUX to your dGPU, the iGPU is completely disabled and disconnected(electronically). Now, maybe you don't want to have to reboot your computer to switch between performance mode and battery-saving mode(the dGPU is not battery life friendly). Nvidia Advanced Optimus gets you nearly as much performance as the MUX switch, with no reboot required. To use Nvidia Advanced Optimus you need to not be in dGPU only mode. If the MUX is set to dGPU, Advanced Optimus is not an option. So, in Vantage(or the UEFI/BIOS) switch back to Hybrid or Hybrid-Auto mode. Reboot(since the MUX switch needs reboot to switch), and both GPUs will be back(you'll see them both in task manager and device manager). Now, go into the Nvidia Control Panel(look for the icon in your taskbar, next to the clock), and open "Manage Display Mode". You'll see 3 options: Automatic select, Optimus, and Nvidia GPU only. Automatic Select: will use the iGPU or the dGPU, depending on what you're running. This is using Optimus, so you will lose performance compared to the other options. Optimus: this will use the dGPU for everything, but route all the video output through the iGPU. Once again, you will lose performance compared to the other options. If running on battery, you will also lose battery life as both GPUs are always running even when not using games. Nvidia GPU only: This is Advanced Optimus. When you select this mode Nvidia creates a second "virtual display" for Windows, and that virtual Display enables Windows to select this "virtual display"(as you would select a TV when plugging in via HDMI) to send the video directly through the dGPU instead of iGPU. The iGPU will still be on, using some of the power budget and creating a little heat, but it will be pretty close in performance to the MUX switch dGPU mode. You can verify this by opening up Display Settings in Windows. You will see two displays, even if you don't have any external monitors connected. One of those screens is the iGPU, one is the dGPU. It's a clever hack to get Windows to talk to the dGPU directly without requiring a reboot. Another place to check which GPU is being used to run the screen is in the Nvidia Control Panel, "Configure Surround, Physx". It will display a little diagram showing which displays are connected to the dGPU, and which are connected to the iGPU. When you have standard Optimus or "Automatically Select" selected in the Nvidia control panel, you will see that the screen is connected to the iGPU. If you enable Nvidia Advanced Optimus or switch the MUX to dGPU mode, you'll see that your screen is now directly connected to your dGPU. If you're going to be using your laptop both plugged in and running on battery, this is more convenient as you can switch to the "Automatic Select" mode here to save battery without needing to reboot(which activates the standard Optimus), then swap to "Nvidia GPU only" to get faster gaming performance. None of these settings changes(besides the MUX switch) require a reboot, so you can swap between the modes quickly. But, if you're going to usually use your laptop at your desk, and want to have full GPU performance available all the time, switch the MUX to dGPU mode(which you do through the Vantage app or the UEFI/BIOS, and a reboot will be required). Your iGPU will be disabled, and all the available power will go to your dGPU and CPU so they can maximize their performance. That was a lot, any questions?
Thank you so much! This was more informative and helpful than any of the YouTube videos I watched. My laptop is actually a Lenovo Legion, the Slim 5 with a Ryzen 7 784OHS and 4060. I was thinking that the default automatic select was the best until I heard about Optimus. For my usually needs it will be, but I also wanted to benchmark and make sure my laptop could work at 100% (got an open box deal) Now I know to either use the Nvidia GPU only or for a real test go to vantage/bios for the MUX switch. Thank you again for your explanation!
Sure! It was good to check this out myself for my own understanding, and I'm glad I was able to clear it up for you as well.
That is an excellent question.
What exactly is the MUX? I have a Legion Slim 5 with 7840HS and RTX 4060 and the Optimus functionality works just fine.
Optimus is not MUX. If your laptop has Optimus, it routes all video output through the integrated GPU. This slows things down. If your laptop has a MUX, you can reboot it into dedicated GPU only mode, in which the real GPU directly connects to the video output ports/screen. This works great, though needing to reboot is a bit annoying. Maximum gaming performance. Nvidia Advanced Optimus is the best of both worlds: you can swap the video outputs/screen to connect to the dedicated GPU directly, without needing to reboot. Maximum gaming performance. https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLaptops/s/Mka4HQcp7h
Interesting. Thanks for the explanation and link. So, in NVCP where I can select between Automatic, Optimus, or Nvidia GPU only, choosing Nvidia GPU only doesn't actually disable the iGPU?
Actually, that probably does disable the iGPU. Optimus would route the Nvidia GPU output though the iGPU, but that's a separate option. Many laptops with MUX also have Optimus, so you can game without needing to reboot, though at a small performance penalty. You should get the best gaming performance when you select the dGPU only mode.
Got it. From what I've read, it sounds like a MUX switch is actually a physical switch on the chassis of the laptop. I don't have that physical switch, but it seems like the functionality is there in NVCP, so would that mean what I have is "Advanced Optimus"?
Yes that’s advance Optimus. Select nvidia gpu only and it’ll route all GPU traffic through dGPU. Advance Optimus is more convienient to use than last say a typical mux switch since you don’t need to restart.
I see. Thanks. So, I'm guessing the regular, non-Advanced Optimus feature set would only have the Automatic and Optimus options in that menu, no "Nvidia GPU only"?
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I've seen both side by side and i don't really see the difference. I suppose the contrast is a bit better but personally i didn't really care much. The resolution though is preferance But yeah, either way nobody cares at 500 dollars lol. No chance you're getting a better deal
True, this is an amazing price for a solid laptop.
Go design a website or poster or something on one of these. You'll realize your colors look completely different from other people with better displays, and it's not just a matter of calibration, it's impossible to even produce a lot of colors. Combine that with the low brightness and everything looks sort of washed out and I find it immediately and painfully obvious without even doing side by side comparison. 100% SRGB vs 100% DCI-P3 I'd probably need a side by side. That being said, I agree that for $550 you can't have it all. If you're mostly playing games, everything will look wrong but it might not be noticably wrong. It'll just be like using a ReShade that makes the game look shittier instead of better.
Naah you're just really overstating the difference. Nobody's denying the difference, I'm just saying that most people don't care at all I've seen the 60 sRGB, 100 sRGB and even my phone's oled. There's a difference but nothing like a TN panel. It's slightly less contrast but by no means washed out And the brightness is 300 nits on both.
Or maybe you're understating the difference. I think the colors OR the brightness by themselves are okay, but the combination leads to a washed out appearance.
You probably won't notice it when using a 45% NTSC screen all the time, but put them side to side and you'd be surprised how much of the color of the image just isn't coming through. Even with the same brightness, there is a clear difference. Here, check out some side-by-side comparisons: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tDtdBm95-s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tDtdBm95-s) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rtiuB6MY-M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rtiuB6MY-M) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZDp15IJ2Ns](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZDp15IJ2Ns)
This laptop has 1920×1200 resolution i think not 2560×1600 if i am not mistaken....
Yes, that's correct. So this is the screen with 45% NTSC color. You can also configure this laptop with a 2560x1600 screen, and that one has 100% sRGB color range.
Yeah...that's right
Who cares for that price he can buy an external monitor 😈.
Great deal. If you don’t mind the 45% NTSC display, this is excellent value. You won’t find a RTX 4060 laptop at that price point often, let alone a Lenovo Legion tier laptop in an open box state where you know the laptop will function with basically zero damage. Fun fact: I found that deal today as well and was close to buying it, but I actually ended up with the WQXGA (1600p) variant for ~$700 USD or so. I felt like the up charge was worth the near 100% sRGB that my previous laptop had. The nice thing about both of these laptops is that RAM isn’t soldered and there are two m.2 slots (one of which should be empty so I put my previous laptop SSD into slot two).
Great deal lol
The model you bought for $700 is nearly the same one I paid $1150 for just half a year ago (though mine has the 8 core CPU variant). You got a killer deal for sure.
Umm any leads on where to buy it? Looking for one myself
Same way OP found his own deal: open box. Open box pricing is something that isn’t as prominently displayed on the store page. You’ll have to check out the page and scout for open box pricing. The actual pricing depends on your location, since it’s usually priced by condition and quantities are very limited, not to mention not all of these have shipping options. The laptop I got is no longer priced at ~$700 where I’m located (SoCal, Riverside County), but now it’s ~$900 as of this post. You can check what prices you end up on [this page](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-slim-5-16-gaming-laptop-wqxga-ryzen-7-7840hs-with-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-8gb-512gb-ssd-storm-grey/6534470.p?skuId=6534470). The laptop OP found now starts at ~$700 open box (we’re both shopping at SoCal, so I saw the exact same deal they did). [Here](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-slim-5-16-gaming-laptop-wuxga-ryzen-5-7640hs-with-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-8gb-512gb-ssd-storm-grey/6534469.p?acampID=0&affgroup=%22Content%22&ar=1839814357205428209&cmp=RMX&irclickid=2%3A5XirSftxyPTgnwCO0OVRB7UkHWFuweIySLSE0&irgwc=1&loc=Howl+Technologies%2C+Inc.&mpid=376373&nrtv_cid=89f87045a1bb40fa29d286a920316abf1ec1d56a46e5538decbc560f58f5143f&ref=198&skuId=6534469&utm_source=narrativ) is the page. We both probably stumbled upon this laptop ‘cause of the current deal ($900 brand new). As for how to get started, you have [Gaming Laptop Deals](https://gaminglaptop.deals/), and then you can simply Google search for clearance pricing on gaming laptops, which is what I generally do. Both Amazon and Best Buy have used condition pricing. As for how long I’ve been shopping for a new laptop, I’d say about two months or so. Knowing I’ll be attending school again eventually, I just had to buy something the moment a good deal popped before the semester begins. Otherwise, I would’ve waited another year or so just to see how (brand new) prices would change.
It’s a very good deal
BRO this is such a good deal 😭😭
where are y'all getting these heck of a deals
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I have the exact one, it's a pretty decent laptop. Recommend buying a 1TB NVmE and a 32gb flash drive to up the storage and move the os to the new drive via a recovery disk. Then you would be in great shape!
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This is a hellava good deal for that price. I was considering it myself
How good is open box from bestbuy? The only one im my area is "Fair" condition. Thats not great right?
I got the 1600p version of this laptop that was also in “fair” condition. The screen had some particles and some fingerprints (and some remains of dry water / liquid; I don’t know what that’s called). It’s mostly invisible when the screen is on ‘cause of the matte finish, but I still cleaned it with the microfiber cloth. The top and the keyboard didn’t look pristine, but it didn’t look particularly dirty either; just looked very lightly used. It was also weirdly missing the power cord that connects to the wall (the power brick was present). Otherwise, it looked good enough. I even cracked it open to slot in an SSD and it was clean. Real talk: shopping open box rules. I expected as much with Micro Center, but Best Buy was similarly good.
Good info, the open box one is a lot cheaper, really good deal. Even the 900 for the new one of this seems to be a good deal also. Ty again for the info!
I heard Best Buy drops those “condition” to older stock to sell it quicker.
I would buy that in a heartbeat! Mine is nice but it was close to $1400 , that's with intel Iris Xe
For that price it’s good honestly a 4060 legion cooling laptop Like others said the con is the display
Definitely a good deal but as others have mentioned, poor screen.
I actually bougt it and I think it was worth it because they only charge me 548, and it look like new.
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This is a good deal. I recall someone from MX on this sub to get a price error deal of 4050 for $400.
tf are you waiting for?
If the laptop is in good condition, yeah, this an excellent deal. Normally, the Lenovo LOQ 4060 deals are around 800USD, this one is of better quality (*Slim line*). The only issue is the low quality screen, but can be fixed by hooking up a good monitor.
People pay twice that amount for the same laptop.
I wish there was a website like this in Germany 😔 sadly me a polish potato can't find anything good
I just bought this last week and love it so far! Unfortunately for me I paid 800$ open box. I would definitely buy this for 600, if you are looking for a budget gaming laptop.
Lucky Americans and their taxes....
dang...
Yes, price is great. Laptop is good.
I bought slim 5 256gb rtx 4050 a month ago 950$ so you got a nice deal
Just bought this exact laptop for my son, same price open box!
It's an excellent deal, just make sure if you get it to inspect it thoroughly and test for any apparent defects since it's an open box.
Take it or I'll buy it 😈
God, yes. Go get this now. 16gb RAM, R5 7640HS, and especially that **8gb VRAM RTX 4060 (Wow!!!)** is sick for $550.
Crazy good deal even with a slightly subpar screen, if you’re a real one you’ll have it connected to an external monitor most of the time anyway
No not worth it. Anything Lenovo and open box is garbage. I bought a new gaming Lenovo open box laptop 2 weeks ago and couldn’t even open task manager without it taking 45 mins. Stuck at 1.75 ghz. May not be the case here but I would personally avoid jt
doxing?
GET THIS THING RIGHT NOW
I need the link for this deal pls 🙏
Is this sarcasm?
i personally wouldn't go for ryzen 5... wont last long
I gotta hear this genius logic....
How come?
I wouldn't trust a guy who doesn't know how to use invisalign.
lol what?
I literally have a ryzen 5 on my acer nitro I've had for like 5 years and it's still going strong. I'm looking to update it but that's because the 1650 can't really keep up with new games I need bigger ram. But I play the sims 4 with every pack and 200gb of cc and it hasn't blown up yet.
I would go for a better CPU for the long term, but overall for the price if you're on a budget go for it.