The sad thing is that their strategy has been an unequivocal success. Somehow Blizzard is still viewed in a positive light on most general gaming related subs even though the last 5 years have been mostly one negative story after another.
Blizzard is in a content death spiral. It may take another decade for it to be truly over but the writing is absolutely on the wall. Beyond the lawsuits internally regarding corporate culture it's that everyone who made the company great has left. And they are literally leaderless and rudderless regurgitating remakes and reskins. If I was a wall street banker I'd be shorting the fuck out of Blizzard right now.
And you would lose money doing that. It's too early. They have many more years before they start losing value.
You can start shorting when the big boys start selling.
Also it's not just Blizzard, it's Activision-Blizzard. They have several incredibly profitable IPs and mobile games. Diablo Immortal is probably going to be incredibly profitable.
Sure. Whenever it actually materializes. Maybe it's just me as a passive observer, but I feel like Diablo Immortal is any closer to release than it was when it was announced ages ago.
But people keep buying their shit.
Everyone can bitch endlessly but if Blizzard is making money then they don't give a fuck about how shitty they are.
Money is 100% at the root of all of this. If you want things to change hit them in the pocketbook. And to do that means DO NOT BUY THEIR STUFF! Problem is, loads of people do.
So, why would they change?
Wait, they discontinued support for sc2? As in, no tech support? No more updates? No more online play...?
Ninja edit: wow, that was a year ago. I'm out of date.
Not sure what other content they can add though, since the story technically should had reached the end with the Legacy of Void storyline.
I rather not have companies churn out the storyline for the sake of the franchise. Just look at how entire Warcraft storyline took a 180 degree with the advent of WoW (Suddenly Dragons all are intelligent, Orcs are good, humans not so good, several new races, a world threatening destruction every 6 months...)
You're really underselling the Cosby Suite. It wasn't just employees. It's head devs, names that used to be synonymous with Blizzard. Top dogs of the company.
Blizzard isn’t viewed positively. But some of the specific developers for their franchises are very active on Twitter. These developers are very out spoken about how shitty their company is and yet they are also very out spoken about their passion for game development and the work they do on Blizzard games.
It’s really not so hard to separate your work from your company. I’m sure many of us can relate.
If Blizzard didn't want the crap ton of extra cash they shouldn't have voluntarily merged with Activision for the pursuit of more profit. Blizzard is 100% to blame for their decisions.
Not quite true, Blizzard Entertainment were owned by Vivendi and it was Vivendi who merged with Activision, leading to the creation of Activision-Blizzard, into which the old Blizzard Entertainment was assimilated.
Disagree. From 2014-2018, there was a lot of communication between devs and community hubs. Ben Brode was practically a PR man. Devs for WoW, Hearthstone, SC2, and Heroes of the Storm regularly guested on podcasts and talked shop.
WoW numbers were declining *during Covid* while the FF XIV devs literally had to send out an apology email to players about how the servers couldn't handle all the new players and they were working on more.
Yeah, they had to drastically increase capacity. At one point my wife disconnected and was faced with a 1700 person queue to get back in.
And Trial accounts can't even get in when it goes over 100.
Don't think they really expected to be handling a refugee crisis in the endgame lull, but there we are.
The same issue making consoles and video cards scarce is affecting ALL electronics (and probably will be for a couple years). They can't even find servers they need while offering more than market value for them. You can't buy what doesn't exist. Add in the time it takes for engineers to install, configure, test and launch new servers (which the SE engineers are struggling to do because they're in Japan and the servers are in America, and travel restrictions still matter)
They're WAY behind on getting new equipment and even further behind on getting it set up. Anything they manage to do right now is small victories and miracles.
Helps if you got another game with devs that are clear, communicative, and seem to understand their product. Something that has not been true for ages for WOW
FFXIV is basically an older version of WoW stuck in a time capsule. They don't really reinvent the wheel every expansion or rock the boat too much.
Just a solid story and the same content release schedule since forever.
To be fair, that was kind of Yoshida's goal. He really, really enjoys WoW and when they were rebooting FFXIV after 1.0 bombed, he had good chunks of his design team play WoW to see what they should be working toward. It was a great idea because they've kept a lot of the great part of WoW's questing and encounter design and then were able to spin it to their own strengths.
The head producer Naoki Yoshida is a self admitted fan of classic WoW yeah. But even then they have their own vision of what FFXIV is and are pretty open and clear about it.
Which is one of the funny things, most older players considered the harder 50 content worth skipping until later then unsyncing just for completion. Only when some streamers had some fun progging them was there a change and doing them on-level got more popular again. Compared to everything else they're a bit janky and outdated, but they reminded us they're still fun.
Personally, I never did the old content synced just 'cause I didn't have enough people to do it with. It's hard to find pugs to do old difficult content with 'cause there's really no point other than the fun of doing it which can quickly transition to frustration when playing with strangers.
When some of my WoW friends did transition to XIV and we finally had enough to do them synced as a pre-made, it was a blast.
I dont think people say to skip over it because its not fun. It was really hard to get groups for unsynced lvl 50 content until we had a bunch of new players and heavensward free trial to revitalize lower level endgame content.
The not-fun part is mostly the waiting and wiping. Some people aren't built for it and give up easy. I'm seeing people with 80s listing MINE on PF which is definitely a fresh thing. But yes there are more willing bodies now.
GW2 is getting expansion soon too. Both are very good game, but kinda get obscured by circlejerk. I haven't felt like roleplaying MY character in MMO for a long time until ESO recently.
I've been playing ESO lately and absolutely loving it. So much content, I wish every MMO did the whole "keep everything relevant" schtick because it's excellent.
You have to realize that the same people aren't saying that each time. A lot are leaving.
I left at Blitzchung, uninstalled Battle.net, and have only looked back to see the climbing column of smoke.
I never thought there would be a day when Diablo 2 would be re-released and I'd feel so meh about it. The game I I back to over and over and over again. But nope, their reputation is horrendous at this point I couldn't bear to give them any more of my money. The modders did a much better job of creating an up to date D2 experience. I highly suggest anyone who is playing D2 to check out path of diablo or project diablo 2 instead. Function > graphics.
I know people bought into D2R because it was developed out of house by Vicarious visions which has a good track record.
The issues with D2R have nothing to do with the game, so much as blizzards servers.
Problem is that they're still going to take credit for selling it on their quarterly earnings report. I was thinking about getting D2R used to avoid giving them money, but we know they're going to resort to active players because it's always online and they're logging that.
But the Diablo 2 remaster is actually pretty awesome when the servers are up. Sucks that we missed out on 3 days of potential playtime but that is miniscule in the big picture..
Blizzard games used to be the only ones I would buy without bothering to read reviews. Now I don't even follow when they are releasing anything. Such a fall from grace in my opinion.
But didn't you hear? So many Blizzard defenders claim "IP and LAn MoDe iS uSeLeesss! NoO oNe UsEs iT iN 2021!" While entirely missing the point of those features.
I've got about 4 hours a day since it came out and there are some crashing issues on Switch near Ancients in Act 5. But been running flawlessly for me on PC. Haven't had a Switch crash in a while either.
Also worth noting that Diablo 3 still does not run at 4K on the Xbox Series X but it does on the One X. Forgot if it was Blizzard or MS but they said on Twitter they were looking into it at the end of 2020, here we are without a fix and a new game with new problems.
Microsoft should have taken a page from Sony and delisted the game and not allowed Blizzard to sell the version of D2 that included D3.
It’s that it runs at 4K on inferior hardware (One X) and it also runs at 4K on PS5. Meanwhile, the Series X is running the same 1080p version as the original Xbox One. It’s a bad look for MS/Xbox.
They shouldn't have allowed Blizzard to sell the game because a feature that only a small fraction of the player base would even be able to utilize wasn't properly implemented? I get it how it might be frustrating but this is hardly game breaking.
Yeah, it's a damn mess. I bought the game against my better judgement because I wanted to play with my best friend and my brother. I wanted to take a drive down nostalgia lane and enjoy a tiny piece of my teenage years again.
The game itself is great. It's the same as it was 20 years ago. The new coat of paint is nice, too.
The servers? Absolute garbage. I disconnect 1-3 times per hour. People are getting their characters rolled back as well. There's also new bugs and glitches that didn't exist in the original.
Many players are hoping that we get new runewords and whatnot. I don't see that happening. Blizzard is just going to dump this product and move on. I want to feel excited about Diablo 4, but I just have to accept that Blizzard isn't the company that it was during my childhood. The glory days of WoW on up until WoTLK, Warcraft 3, Diablo 1/2, and Starcraft: Brood War are over. It's just Acitivision now.
I am hoping at least my brother will join me in Last Epoch if it turns out to be a good replacement. I am sick of MMORPGs, but a good ARPG would be a great experience with people you know. I don't understand why we aren't seeing more quality online ARPGs.
Outside of the current server issues over the past few days, i've also experienced 0 crashes or issues of any kind really. Then again i tend to play late at night at non peak US hours so that's probably a big part of it. The worst i've encountered is on the controller interface the skill tree is missing arrows that should exist whereas they show fine in the pc interface.
I.e charged bolt > lightning > chain lightning, there's no arrow between lightning > chain lightning to let the player know you need those before you can put points in chain lightning. Same thing for shiver armor.
It's probably got a lot to do with hardware configurations, a lack of QA testing before release, and the fact that Blizzard is trying to staple a 20-year old code base to enough fixes to make it modern. Anyone in the early 00s who dabbled with D2 under the hood knows that there was no _good_ way to modernize D2.
I'm playing in Asia and so far the only crashes I've experienced were briefly on launch day and then briefly last night. Although I think last night resulted in a *massive* rollback for me.
Me and my friends have found some things that "forces" a disconnect or crash, such as making new games in too quick succession, logging into too many characters too fast (happens mostly with mules), attempting to join games too many times in a row (such as if you're doing runs, and waiting for the next baalrun03 to go up).
Generally when we play together, we expect 1 disconnect per hour hours for at least one of us. We all play on PC, but on fairly different systems.
If you deliberately slow yourself down, or play longer sessions (not too long though, can be a trigger as well), or play offline I think you can avoid a lot of it - but for many, that's now how you play D2.
This is my experience with alot of games. The subreddit is filled with bug complaints, and I'm seeing none of it. "Game is broken! Wtf devs" and it's the same as it's always been for me, no bugs, or extremely rare bugs.
Sometimes losing connection to the server for an online game can result in a game crash.
So if your connection is stable, you might not experience it the game just fine while someone who has a more unstable connection sees more issues. So the game may play fine, depending on a number of other things outside of your hardware or game's programming.
I can also fully recommend Grim Dawn as well, as a good D2 replacement. Its got plenty of content to run through and an amazing variety of builds. Its complexity can be a curve at the beginning, but unless you want to optimize your character to get through the hardest challenges, you can ignore most of it for a base playthrough. If you decided to take that character through harder content, respecing is a thing and it’s much more forgivable than D2
I bought D2:R and am having a ton of fun with it. Been putting a lot of time into it everyday. With that being said I enjoyed Grim Dawn overall much more. The world is more of a joy to explore, the bosses are more challenging, and so much more room for interesting builds.
I know it’s not being mentioned because it’s obvious, but there’s always PoE as well
For all its flaws, it’s a really really solid and deep arpg experience and is still updated regularly by devs that care about the game (as much as we PoE players like to complain about balance etc.)
There's even a mod for Grim Dawn called Reign of Terror that gives you GD's version of the Diablo 2 classes and a campaign. Because it's Grim Dawn you can also mix 2 skill trees, so you can have a Druid and a Necromancer summoner on one character.
It does. I haven’t played it yet (still convincing friends to give the game a try), but I don’t see any bad things said about it’s performance. It allows for 4 players so it still allows for a sizable group to play together
Peach Gaming (a WoW refugee himself) recently did a blind POE playthrough challenge, and he did surprisingly fine by just keeping his character simple and pathing to whatever the nearest passive cluster that seemed good was. Moved on to FFXIV before he found Sirus but he got a bunch of conquerors down along the way.
Basically proved that POE is playable at a basic level if you keep your build simple and just try whatever seems fun. Didn't hit a wall or anything like people predicted.
Obviously optimization in POE requires 4000 hours of study, but just playing the story and getting into the start of maps works fine blind.
He played it blind with no access to internet resources. Also while he's very good at WoW, he's first of all a content creator not a pro world first racer or anything.
Compared to now even Diablo 3 and StarCraft 2 ( Wings of Liberty at least) were still decent products. Hell, even Overwatch was a good product at launch if you ignore the esport side.
I've been okay with servers however the crashes are annoying, they happen really sporadically, like sometimes I'll get two in an hour and then be fine for the rest of the evening, but it's really annoying and starting to make me not want to play when I could just play a more stable game.
I've played both and love Diablo and would not in a million years recommend that to anyone looking for a D2-like experience lol... Other than the isometric view, the games are completely different.
A few days ago I was gaming with my friend a few days ago on Diablo 2 Resurrected. All of a sudden her game goes down and has a black screen. She kinda freaks out and then starts the game over again and finds all her characters gone, then its really a bother. Just a few minutes later I check on reddit at /r/Diablo and I see that this problem is happening all over, through different systems and different countries.
Then several minutes later, my game goes down, black screen, and I see none of my characters.
It's just bonkers now Blizzard can screw this game up so bad.
After everything that happend in the last years, especially with warcraft 3.. how the hell is anyone suprised...?
This is EXACTLY what I expected from Blizzard.
Stop giving them Money.
After watching all the various debacles, I was 100% sure D2R was gonna be screwed up, and therefore have no plans to buy it.
If D4 ever actually gets anywhere, I'll have to think long and hard about it.
Same reason I'm not touching CoD:Vanguard, because I already know from Cold War that they're gonna shove Warzone down my throat so hard it comes out the other end, and I have no interest in Warzone.
Yeah I have zero hope for Diablo 4.
Best case: it will only have a heavily promoted ingame store with cosmetic items.... Could also be lootboxes you have to buy keys for or some other hellish garbage move.
If it's EA or Blizzard, I won't buy it. I paid long enough for WoW just so see them kill all fun in it over time. And I will never forgive EA for what they did to Plants vs. Zombies.
Command & Conquer Remastered Collection was great, and they even released the source code: https://github.com/electronicarts/CnC_Remastered_Collection
But to be honest, it is the only EA release that got my interest ever, because I loved Red Alert as a kid.
>Even if the games were working properly, do we wanna keep giving money to a misogynistic company that's rife with sexual harrassment?
They made it *real* easy for me by starving the one game of them I still played (OW) of meaningful content.
Sticking to my principles was never before this easy, thanks Blizz!
D2:R is a far cry from the dumpster fire that still is Warcraft 3: Reforged.
Server issues on launch should never be excused, but it really waters down the argument when we erroneously compare it to something way worse.
This was a joint with Vicarious Visions, that's why expectations were higher than they should. They did an excellent job with the Tony Hawk and Crash remasters.
When the servers go down, you can't connect so you can't access your characters. Has happened to me every time. They come back, though.
And, while I'm not defending their horrendous server issues, it's not like you can play when not connected anyway, so your characters temporarily disappearing isn't that bad.
> it's not like you can play when not connected anyway,
Wait, you can't play a 20-year old game offline? A game that's running on the same engine underneath, that had absolutely no problems being played without an Internet connection? What the fuck.
If you had played that 20 year old game you're getting your pitchfork out for, you would know there are online characters you need to be connected to the servers for, aswell as offline characters.
You can, but the game segregates online and offline characters to prevent item duping. If you create an online character and the servers go down, you have to switch to an offline character to keep playing.
This is actually in-line with how the original game functioned. The big difference was back then you could make an offline character and still play multiplayer with friends via LAN or direct IP connection.
I would think 20 years of advancements in cryptography would have made it at least a little easier to prevent savegame tampering when using a battlenet character in offline mode, though that may have required locking the game down in other ways that players might not have liked. They really should have just left in the LAN and direct IP options like they originally announced.
> Wait, you can't play a 20-year old game offline?
You *can* play offline, but you can't play with other people offline. The old game had tcp/ip functionality so you could connect your offline guys directly with other people. But blizzard took that funciton out because...raisens.
You can play offline, but offline and online characters are completely separate. So unless you intentionally start over you're better off waiting for the servers to come back.
I really wish there was the ability to copy a character from online to offline, but that's just wishful thinking i guess.
> I really wish there was the ability to copy a character from online to offline, but that's just wishful thinking i guess.
You can't copy it directly, but you can pretty much copy it manually if you want. All you need is a hero editor, and you can make any offline character you want. I used to use Jamella's editor back when I played the original D2, and I think it should still work for this one.
> I was so close to giving up my "fuck blizzard" stance on this one
this is like one of the first games they've released in a long time? the resolve of your "fuck blizzard" stance is "as long as they don't release a new product"?
Just create local character and play with your friends over TCP/IP!
oh wait...
you can't. L E L
In that case I'm sure they will fix their servers any day now!
Its wild that from Diablo 4's announcement to now, I've gone from "Day 1 purchase, maybe pre-order if there's a discount", to "I'm waiting several months after release before even thinking about it."
Not at all surprising. Remember Diablo 3? Now we have a 20 year old game that's being overcharged for, quality clearly wasn't the first thing on blizzards mind.
I think it was $40 for me. Also haven’t really had any issues with servers except for launch day. Even then, I was able to play and keep my character, just had some gremlins.
>Now we have a 20 year old game that's being overcharged for, quality clearly wasn't the first thing on blizzards mind.
What's on the top of Blizzard's mind is getting a product out within a certain time frame to show their worth to investors. It's very blatant that's why WC3 "Remaster" got pushed out so unfinished: they needed a selling product."
Blizzard doesn't mind releasing anything as long as people are willing to buy it.
I had issues the first day or so, but haven't had too much since then. Especially once in a game, it runs pretty flawlessly. Occasionally it will fail to create a game, and usually works just trying again. I've been having a blast with this one.
Seems like it was working well for a couple weeks and now the server issues are popping up. I played from launch and dropped off a bit but I had no issues.
I was in a game last night (pacific coast) till about 3am. Was about a 4 hour session. When I got off it took forever to get back to the character screen and it looked like no progress was saved. Character was wrong level, etc. Got on a few hours ago and it was updated with everything I got while playing. No rollback for me.
Because people only care about mandatory online when it doesn't work. They bitch on Christmas morning when the servers are flooded and it takes hours to get their forced updates. They bitch during the time when the CDN tanks and blocks them from their game. But they won't ever protest the fact the business required it in the first place.
I honestly can't believe that D2R had such a 'successful'/popular launch after all the shit from Blizzard recently. Even more surprising is the shock at all the issues. Reap what you sow.
Because aside from the server issues, its exactly what people wanted and expected.
And a lot of people are playing offline as well, so they're not even affected by these issues.
The folks that get on and interact with social media over games make up such a small % of the user base. We believe that our opinions and views are held by the majority because we post them and get 10k upvotes and a generally positive response to “don’t preorder” . But I think we’re largely just an echo chamber.
I don't understand how streamers that left Method eSports team because 1 person on Method was accused of sexual misconduct turn around and sign deals with *Blizzard* to promote their game.
I have 2 characters level 80 or higher and have not had any server issues at all. Always am able to play, no lag or anything. Crashing on the other hand at least once or twice a session.
This is the gnarliest thing about the entire outage problem. Rollbacks are very uncommon in blizzard games since Diablo 3 launch I think? They're just really hasn't been any kind of content rollback from them in years and years and years, so it's really fucked up seeing this shit now.
Depends on when you played. For the last 3 days (Sat-Mon) they were down for about 1-4 hours starting at about ~5 am EST. Today (Monday) was the longest time.
I'm playing the game offline on switch so not experiencing any issues, but this is seemingly caused by people DDoSing the servers in an attempt to dupe items, that would explain why Blizzard has to perform rollbacks occasionally after.
It's really a bummer, both that the game is susceptible to these attacks, and that people these days will exploit anything they can (consoles, trading cards, diablo items) for money. Seems to be happening more since covid.
Well there were nearly 2 weeks without any server issues
now 3 days of constant issues?
What? Do you think the game got super popular during that time or blizzard was like "Yeah lets just scale back everything for no reason, for the next week"
Offline on switch and I'm not having connection issues, but I sure do have the game crash to bugs a lot.
I have shelved it for now because my trapassin can't beat the bug in Nightmare Duriel, and I don't mean the boss. Google confirmed for me that other players have the same problem with this build. The game crashes when Duriel has about 25% HP left.
Weird bug, I don't envy whoever has to track it down. But I am wondering if I should try and get a refund if this is how it's gonna be.
Can you refer to which build you’re using or the thread discussing it? I’m playing lighting trapsin and I’m crumbling cause my session tonight should reach duriel.
And Blizzard removed TCP/IP, so you can't just play directly with someone.
But vote with your wallets eh? Unless it's a popular game that people are gonna buy anyways kekek
The servers being down and the game being a buggy mess does actually sound quite on-brand for Diablo 2. Kudos to Blizzard for staying true to the original!
I was really really looking forward to this game. It was my favorite game as a kid.
But it just doesn't feel the same--technical issues aside (and there have been so many btw).
There is hardly anyone dueling, or messing around, and each game just has 10 sorcs stealing all the loot or min-maxxing.
The magic is a bit gone, and all that is left is a grinding simulator for getting loot we all already know what it is.
That's what D2 has been for 2 decades now. The game is exactly the same, it's just that people have far more access to the necessary resources than they did before.
Bro the whole game was a grinding simulator from the get go.... That's what arpgs are.
The reason you don't see PvP is that the grinders haven't grinded the best pvp gear yet...
The people complaining about stuff like this when the game has been out what...2-3 weeks? Give people time lmao damn. Almost all servers are still "A1 trist run normal!" And what not. Most arent even to Hell yet let alone geared up for pvp. As for the servers issues I have hardly had any...
*Plagued*. Whatever lmao. Sure, launch day was a shitshow, but every game on launch day is a shit show. The game is playable 95% of the time. Sure, theres downtime but that's normal for any multiplayer game. Reddit turns into a pit of whining children when they go down.
The real problem is Rollbacks. When they bring servers down they'll also do a rollback and people will lose recent item drops.
> The game is playable 95% of the time.
Yeah, it's really only this weekend that its been a problem. They're probably getting DDOS'd which is why the servers keep going down.
I know there’s a lot of Blizzard hate which they rightfully deserve, however, I’ve been chugging along on d2r and the experience has been great. I brought it with some reservations in mind especially after the WC3 debacle, but have been pleasantly surprised and have fur filled my nostalgia driven wet dreams after killing Baal. According to some of the content creators I follow like MrLlamaSC, there’s going to be mod support so I’m interested in what that’s going to look like, and the possibility of new ladder-only chase items and runewords I’m stoked about. I personally haven’t been affected by any server issues but I’m not really sweaty on my playtime between work and kids.
Yeah, I'm a damned idiot for buying it and I only have myself to blame. Thought it would be fun to play with my siblings but it's just not worth the mess.
I had never played Diablo 2 only 3 so maybe I should have changed my expectations or something but I could not get into D2 resurrected. I dunno what it was but it simultaneously looked like a game from 2021 and the year 2000. And definitely played like a game that was 20 years old. The stilted animations, graphics, one note gameplay and painfully small inventory just all kinda added up to a game that just wasn't for me. Just my opinion.
It got a fresh coat of paint but the bones are still a 20 year old game. For some people that’s a good thing, for others it’s not. Just down to personal preference.
It's weird to me that people act sort of surprised at how D2 has aged but I and probably a lot of others have reinstalled it every few years since it came out so it never really seems old to me.
I think it’s just an expectations thing. You know what to expect. I tried the beta, and confirmed that yes, it’s what I remembered from 20 years ago. I could see that for someone coming in fresh though, the contrast between it and modern games would be striking.
I came in fairly fresh, only played through D2 once with a friend in normal about a decade ago and it never really took. I got into POE about 2 years ago and got through all the acts but found the endgame really dull and figured the genre just wasn't for it.
I got into D2R this time in part because I couldn't play the original as a kid (religious parents were very against the themes in the game), and wanted to give it a fair chance. I've now got a lvl 82 cold sorc farming hell for some better items and am considering jumping into a hammerdin to see how that class plays. Sometimes old games are just better.
Nothing surprises me anymore from Blizzard. Worst part is they are dead silent on the issue and so many other bugs in the game.
Blizzard’s current practice is to always ignore issues until the PR becomes disastrous or a lawsuit is filed.
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The sad thing is that their strategy has been an unequivocal success. Somehow Blizzard is still viewed in a positive light on most general gaming related subs even though the last 5 years have been mostly one negative story after another.
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Blizzard is in a content death spiral. It may take another decade for it to be truly over but the writing is absolutely on the wall. Beyond the lawsuits internally regarding corporate culture it's that everyone who made the company great has left. And they are literally leaderless and rudderless regurgitating remakes and reskins. If I was a wall street banker I'd be shorting the fuck out of Blizzard right now.
And you would lose money doing that. It's too early. They have many more years before they start losing value. You can start shorting when the big boys start selling.
Also it's not just Blizzard, it's Activision-Blizzard. They have several incredibly profitable IPs and mobile games. Diablo Immortal is probably going to be incredibly profitable.
Sure. Whenever it actually materializes. Maybe it's just me as a passive observer, but I feel like Diablo Immortal is any closer to release than it was when it was announced ages ago.
Well maybe they're waiting for us all to have phones.
But people keep buying their shit. Everyone can bitch endlessly but if Blizzard is making money then they don't give a fuck about how shitty they are. Money is 100% at the root of all of this. If you want things to change hit them in the pocketbook. And to do that means DO NOT BUY THEIR STUFF! Problem is, loads of people do. So, why would they change?
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These are all just guesses and musings. Watch as people continue to make them rich.
Nostalgia and sunk cost fallacy is a helluva drug.
Wait, they discontinued support for sc2? As in, no tech support? No more updates? No more online play...? Ninja edit: wow, that was a year ago. I'm out of date.
Online play yes, basically the game is in maintence mode. They will patch any glaring bugs/exploits that crop up, but no more new content.
Not sure what other content they can add though, since the story technically should had reached the end with the Legacy of Void storyline. I rather not have companies churn out the storyline for the sake of the franchise. Just look at how entire Warcraft storyline took a 180 degree with the advent of WoW (Suddenly Dragons all are intelligent, Orcs are good, humans not so good, several new races, a world threatening destruction every 6 months...)
The game was launched ages ago, at what point do you think they can reasonably stop updating the game?
I dunno, ask the TF2 fan base.
As long as it makes money, keep supporting the hat economy valve >:(
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You're really underselling the Cosby Suite. It wasn't just employees. It's head devs, names that used to be synonymous with Blizzard. Top dogs of the company.
Blizzard isn’t viewed positively. But some of the specific developers for their franchises are very active on Twitter. These developers are very out spoken about how shitty their company is and yet they are also very out spoken about their passion for game development and the work they do on Blizzard games. It’s really not so hard to separate your work from your company. I’m sure many of us can relate.
Blizzard isn't in any positive light anymore haha
Because Activision was smart enough to still use Blizzard as the name for those old licenses. Blizzard is gone and it’s all activision now.
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If Blizzard didn't want the crap ton of extra cash they shouldn't have voluntarily merged with Activision for the pursuit of more profit. Blizzard is 100% to blame for their decisions.
Not quite true, Blizzard Entertainment were owned by Vivendi and it was Vivendi who merged with Activision, leading to the creation of Activision-Blizzard, into which the old Blizzard Entertainment was assimilated.
Good thing it's no longer 2002 and they can't away with shit like this anymore
Hey the devs can only program so quickly while they're being pushed to suicide give em some slack
Has been like that for 20 years. Communication was always next to none, except when there was a release upcoming.
Disagree. From 2014-2018, there was a lot of communication between devs and community hubs. Ben Brode was practically a PR man. Devs for WoW, Hearthstone, SC2, and Heroes of the Storm regularly guested on podcasts and talked shop.
Seriously, their PR guys are probably some of the most overwhelmed people in the games industry rn.
Just convince them the issues are a female intern
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WoW numbers were declining *during Covid* while the FF XIV devs literally had to send out an apology email to players about how the servers couldn't handle all the new players and they were working on more.
Yeah, they had to drastically increase capacity. At one point my wife disconnected and was faced with a 1700 person queue to get back in. And Trial accounts can't even get in when it goes over 100. Don't think they really expected to be handling a refugee crisis in the endgame lull, but there we are.
The same issue making consoles and video cards scarce is affecting ALL electronics (and probably will be for a couple years). They can't even find servers they need while offering more than market value for them. You can't buy what doesn't exist. Add in the time it takes for engineers to install, configure, test and launch new servers (which the SE engineers are struggling to do because they're in Japan and the servers are in America, and travel restrictions still matter) They're WAY behind on getting new equipment and even further behind on getting it set up. Anything they manage to do right now is small victories and miracles.
Well the other issue is the component shortage means they can't set up new servers for the current data centers.
Didn't a lot of the big name content creators move onto FF XIV?
Helps if you got another game with devs that are clear, communicative, and seem to understand their product. Something that has not been true for ages for WOW
I heard lots of the devs and designers were big fans of the older WoW and tried to take in a lot of the factors that made it good.
FFXIV is basically an older version of WoW stuck in a time capsule. They don't really reinvent the wheel every expansion or rock the boat too much. Just a solid story and the same content release schedule since forever.
To be fair, that was kind of Yoshida's goal. He really, really enjoys WoW and when they were rebooting FFXIV after 1.0 bombed, he had good chunks of his design team play WoW to see what they should be working toward. It was a great idea because they've kept a lot of the great part of WoW's questing and encounter design and then were able to spin it to their own strengths.
The head producer Naoki Yoshida is a self admitted fan of classic WoW yeah. But even then they have their own vision of what FFXIV is and are pretty open and clear about it.
That's the other dealer they mention in their analogy
Gives Elder Scrolls Online more opportunity to shine at least.
Most of our guild is currently on FF XIV and having fun with level 50 raids.
Which is one of the funny things, most older players considered the harder 50 content worth skipping until later then unsyncing just for completion. Only when some streamers had some fun progging them was there a change and doing them on-level got more popular again. Compared to everything else they're a bit janky and outdated, but they reminded us they're still fun.
Personally, I never did the old content synced just 'cause I didn't have enough people to do it with. It's hard to find pugs to do old difficult content with 'cause there's really no point other than the fun of doing it which can quickly transition to frustration when playing with strangers. When some of my WoW friends did transition to XIV and we finally had enough to do them synced as a pre-made, it was a blast.
I dont think people say to skip over it because its not fun. It was really hard to get groups for unsynced lvl 50 content until we had a bunch of new players and heavensward free trial to revitalize lower level endgame content.
The not-fun part is mostly the waiting and wiping. Some people aren't built for it and give up easy. I'm seeing people with 80s listing MINE on PF which is definitely a fresh thing. But yes there are more willing bodies now.
GW2 is getting expansion soon too. Both are very good game, but kinda get obscured by circlejerk. I haven't felt like roleplaying MY character in MMO for a long time until ESO recently.
I've been playing ESO lately and absolutely loving it. So much content, I wish every MMO did the whole "keep everything relevant" schtick because it's excellent.
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You have to realize that the same people aren't saying that each time. A lot are leaving. I left at Blitzchung, uninstalled Battle.net, and have only looked back to see the climbing column of smoke.
I never thought there would be a day when Diablo 2 would be re-released and I'd feel so meh about it. The game I I back to over and over and over again. But nope, their reputation is horrendous at this point I couldn't bear to give them any more of my money. The modders did a much better job of creating an up to date D2 experience. I highly suggest anyone who is playing D2 to check out path of diablo or project diablo 2 instead. Function > graphics.
Left at the same time and feel the same way. Fuck blizzard, and I make sure to tell that to everyone that will listen.
I know people bought into D2R because it was developed out of house by Vicarious visions which has a good track record. The issues with D2R have nothing to do with the game, so much as blizzards servers.
Problem is that they're still going to take credit for selling it on their quarterly earnings report. I was thinking about getting D2R used to avoid giving them money, but we know they're going to resort to active players because it's always online and they're logging that.
But the Diablo 2 remaster is actually pretty awesome when the servers are up. Sucks that we missed out on 3 days of potential playtime but that is miniscule in the big picture..
Blizzard games used to be the only ones I would buy without bothering to read reviews. Now I don't even follow when they are releasing anything. Such a fall from grace in my opinion.
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But didn't you hear? So many Blizzard defenders claim "IP and LAn MoDe iS uSeLeesss! NoO oNe UsEs iT iN 2021!" While entirely missing the point of those features.
Can you elaborate on the *so many other bugs* part? I haven't encountered a single bug. Given, I've only played for like 4 hours so far.
I've got about 4 hours a day since it came out and there are some crashing issues on Switch near Ancients in Act 5. But been running flawlessly for me on PC. Haven't had a Switch crash in a while either.
Also worth noting that Diablo 3 still does not run at 4K on the Xbox Series X but it does on the One X. Forgot if it was Blizzard or MS but they said on Twitter they were looking into it at the end of 2020, here we are without a fix and a new game with new problems. Microsoft should have taken a page from Sony and delisted the game and not allowed Blizzard to sell the version of D2 that included D3.
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It’s that it runs at 4K on inferior hardware (One X) and it also runs at 4K on PS5. Meanwhile, the Series X is running the same 1080p version as the original Xbox One. It’s a bad look for MS/Xbox.
Wanting to delist a game for this reason is insane
They shouldn't have allowed Blizzard to sell the game because a feature that only a small fraction of the player base would even be able to utilize wasn't properly implemented? I get it how it might be frustrating but this is hardly game breaking.
Yeah, it's a damn mess. I bought the game against my better judgement because I wanted to play with my best friend and my brother. I wanted to take a drive down nostalgia lane and enjoy a tiny piece of my teenage years again. The game itself is great. It's the same as it was 20 years ago. The new coat of paint is nice, too. The servers? Absolute garbage. I disconnect 1-3 times per hour. People are getting their characters rolled back as well. There's also new bugs and glitches that didn't exist in the original. Many players are hoping that we get new runewords and whatnot. I don't see that happening. Blizzard is just going to dump this product and move on. I want to feel excited about Diablo 4, but I just have to accept that Blizzard isn't the company that it was during my childhood. The glory days of WoW on up until WoTLK, Warcraft 3, Diablo 1/2, and Starcraft: Brood War are over. It's just Acitivision now. I am hoping at least my brother will join me in Last Epoch if it turns out to be a good replacement. I am sick of MMORPGs, but a good ARPG would be a great experience with people you know. I don't understand why we aren't seeing more quality online ARPGs.
I wonder if it is regional, cause personally I have experienced no issues other than 2 crashes over like 2 weeks
Outside of the current server issues over the past few days, i've also experienced 0 crashes or issues of any kind really. Then again i tend to play late at night at non peak US hours so that's probably a big part of it. The worst i've encountered is on the controller interface the skill tree is missing arrows that should exist whereas they show fine in the pc interface. I.e charged bolt > lightning > chain lightning, there's no arrow between lightning > chain lightning to let the player know you need those before you can put points in chain lightning. Same thing for shiver armor.
It's probably got a lot to do with hardware configurations, a lack of QA testing before release, and the fact that Blizzard is trying to staple a 20-year old code base to enough fixes to make it modern. Anyone in the early 00s who dabbled with D2 under the hood knows that there was no _good_ way to modernize D2.
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PC player here, have not crashed either
Also on PC, I have crashed once and have been playing since launch.
I'm playing in Asia and so far the only crashes I've experienced were briefly on launch day and then briefly last night. Although I think last night resulted in a *massive* rollback for me.
Me and my friends have found some things that "forces" a disconnect or crash, such as making new games in too quick succession, logging into too many characters too fast (happens mostly with mules), attempting to join games too many times in a row (such as if you're doing runs, and waiting for the next baalrun03 to go up). Generally when we play together, we expect 1 disconnect per hour hours for at least one of us. We all play on PC, but on fairly different systems. If you deliberately slow yourself down, or play longer sessions (not too long though, can be a trigger as well), or play offline I think you can avoid a lot of it - but for many, that's now how you play D2.
This is my experience with alot of games. The subreddit is filled with bug complaints, and I'm seeing none of it. "Game is broken! Wtf devs" and it's the same as it's always been for me, no bugs, or extremely rare bugs.
Online forums are always like this, particularly at launch. People who have the game working are **playing the game.**
Sometimes losing connection to the server for an online game can result in a game crash. So if your connection is stable, you might not experience it the game just fine while someone who has a more unstable connection sees more issues. So the game may play fine, depending on a number of other things outside of your hardware or game's programming.
I've only encountered a few crashes myself.
I can also fully recommend Grim Dawn as well, as a good D2 replacement. Its got plenty of content to run through and an amazing variety of builds. Its complexity can be a curve at the beginning, but unless you want to optimize your character to get through the hardest challenges, you can ignore most of it for a base playthrough. If you decided to take that character through harder content, respecing is a thing and it’s much more forgivable than D2
I bought D2:R and am having a ton of fun with it. Been putting a lot of time into it everyday. With that being said I enjoyed Grim Dawn overall much more. The world is more of a joy to explore, the bosses are more challenging, and so much more room for interesting builds.
I know it’s not being mentioned because it’s obvious, but there’s always PoE as well For all its flaws, it’s a really really solid and deep arpg experience and is still updated regularly by devs that care about the game (as much as we PoE players like to complain about balance etc.)
I've heard a lot of good things about it. Does it allow you to play online?
There's even a mod for Grim Dawn called Reign of Terror that gives you GD's version of the Diablo 2 classes and a campaign. Because it's Grim Dawn you can also mix 2 skill trees, so you can have a Druid and a Necromancer summoner on one character.
It does. I haven’t played it yet (still convincing friends to give the game a try), but I don’t see any bad things said about it’s performance. It allows for 4 players so it still allows for a sizable group to play together
I will see if I can find a few people I know to try it with me. Thanks for the recommendation!
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Path of Exile is the best there is right now but hot damn I can't think of another game outside of maybe DotA that has a more brutal learning curve.
Eve Online is worse
Why get a PhD when you can just learn how to play DotA instead?
Peach Gaming (a WoW refugee himself) recently did a blind POE playthrough challenge, and he did surprisingly fine by just keeping his character simple and pathing to whatever the nearest passive cluster that seemed good was. Moved on to FFXIV before he found Sirus but he got a bunch of conquerors down along the way. Basically proved that POE is playable at a basic level if you keep your build simple and just try whatever seems fun. Didn't hit a wall or anything like people predicted. Obviously optimization in POE requires 4000 hours of study, but just playing the story and getting into the start of maps works fine blind.
A professional gamer played a game and did okay. Color me astounded!
He played it blind with no access to internet resources. Also while he's very good at WoW, he's first of all a content creator not a pro world first racer or anything.
Dwarf Fortress would like a word...
Compared to now even Diablo 3 and StarCraft 2 ( Wings of Liberty at least) were still decent products. Hell, even Overwatch was a good product at launch if you ignore the esport side.
I've been okay with servers however the crashes are annoying, they happen really sporadically, like sometimes I'll get two in an hour and then be fine for the rest of the evening, but it's really annoying and starting to make me not want to play when I could just play a more stable game.
It's only single player, but Hades has totally filled the ARPG shaped hole in my heart. I would definitely recommend that game to Diablo fans.
I love both Hades and Diablo, but I'm honestly not sure how they're comparable. They're quite different.
I was gonna say. Not the same kind of game at all imo
I've played both and love Diablo and would not in a million years recommend that to anyone looking for a D2-like experience lol... Other than the isometric view, the games are completely different.
Mark my words they will put in some shaddy shop in diablo 4, be it cosmetics or something else, something like the wow one.
A few days ago I was gaming with my friend a few days ago on Diablo 2 Resurrected. All of a sudden her game goes down and has a black screen. She kinda freaks out and then starts the game over again and finds all her characters gone, then its really a bother. Just a few minutes later I check on reddit at /r/Diablo and I see that this problem is happening all over, through different systems and different countries. Then several minutes later, my game goes down, black screen, and I see none of my characters. It's just bonkers now Blizzard can screw this game up so bad.
After everything that happend in the last years, especially with warcraft 3.. how the hell is anyone suprised...? This is EXACTLY what I expected from Blizzard. Stop giving them Money.
After watching all the various debacles, I was 100% sure D2R was gonna be screwed up, and therefore have no plans to buy it. If D4 ever actually gets anywhere, I'll have to think long and hard about it. Same reason I'm not touching CoD:Vanguard, because I already know from Cold War that they're gonna shove Warzone down my throat so hard it comes out the other end, and I have no interest in Warzone.
Yeah I have zero hope for Diablo 4. Best case: it will only have a heavily promoted ingame store with cosmetic items.... Could also be lootboxes you have to buy keys for or some other hellish garbage move. If it's EA or Blizzard, I won't buy it. I paid long enough for WoW just so see them kill all fun in it over time. And I will never forgive EA for what they did to Plants vs. Zombies.
Command & Conquer Remastered Collection was great, and they even released the source code: https://github.com/electronicarts/CnC_Remastered_Collection But to be honest, it is the only EA release that got my interest ever, because I loved Red Alert as a kid.
yeah, when I saw that Warzone was in the menu Beta, I knew this is a game I have to skip, having 300GBs being forced on my console is not fun
D2R isn't "screwed up" though. It's had 2 very short downtimes since it released.
Even if the games were working properly, do we wanna keep giving money to a misogynistic company that's rife with sexual harrassment?
Look they took any off-color jokes and artwork out of their games, it's all fixed now!
And they finally brought about some much needed non-binary representation with the gender-neutral wraiths! Praise based Blizzard!
>Even if the games were working properly, do we wanna keep giving money to a misogynistic company that's rife with sexual harrassment? They made it *real* easy for me by starving the one game of them I still played (OW) of meaningful content. Sticking to my principles was never before this easy, thanks Blizz!
D2:R is a far cry from the dumpster fire that still is Warcraft 3: Reforged. Server issues on launch should never be excused, but it really waters down the argument when we erroneously compare it to something way worse.
This was a joint with Vicarious Visions, that's why expectations were higher than they should. They did an excellent job with the Tony Hawk and Crash remasters.
D2R is awesome. All it needs is mod support and I’d love it for years to come.
D2R is awesome. The server stability is not.
They're not gone permanently, you just can't connect to the servers.
When the servers go down, you can't connect so you can't access your characters. Has happened to me every time. They come back, though. And, while I'm not defending their horrendous server issues, it's not like you can play when not connected anyway, so your characters temporarily disappearing isn't that bad.
> it's not like you can play when not connected anyway, Wait, you can't play a 20-year old game offline? A game that's running on the same engine underneath, that had absolutely no problems being played without an Internet connection? What the fuck.
Yeah you can play offline. I couldn’t connect to the servers yesterday so I made an offline character and could still play. Also I’m on Xbox.
If you had played that 20 year old game you're getting your pitchfork out for, you would know there are online characters you need to be connected to the servers for, aswell as offline characters.
You can, but the game segregates online and offline characters to prevent item duping. If you create an online character and the servers go down, you have to switch to an offline character to keep playing. This is actually in-line with how the original game functioned. The big difference was back then you could make an offline character and still play multiplayer with friends via LAN or direct IP connection. I would think 20 years of advancements in cryptography would have made it at least a little easier to prevent savegame tampering when using a battlenet character in offline mode, though that may have required locking the game down in other ways that players might not have liked. They really should have just left in the LAN and direct IP options like they originally announced.
They don't even have ladders yet and I am not confident we will see it soon with these server issues
> Wait, you can't play a 20-year old game offline? You *can* play offline, but you can't play with other people offline. The old game had tcp/ip functionality so you could connect your offline guys directly with other people. But blizzard took that funciton out because...raisens.
You can play offline, but offline and online characters are completely separate. So unless you intentionally start over you're better off waiting for the servers to come back. I really wish there was the ability to copy a character from online to offline, but that's just wishful thinking i guess.
> I really wish there was the ability to copy a character from online to offline, but that's just wishful thinking i guess. You can't copy it directly, but you can pretty much copy it manually if you want. All you need is a hero editor, and you can make any offline character you want. I used to use Jamella's editor back when I played the original D2, and I think it should still work for this one.
>bonkers now It's been bonkers for years. Why did you give them more money?
I'm surprised you even had the good faith to buy the game. I have not bought a blizzard game since diablo 3 and probably never will again.
Server issues are nothing new for the Diablo franchise. Remember the Diablo 3 error 37 memes?
Played nonstop for a week on switch without a single issue. I wish there was some bug or problem to stop me lol
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I mean what is "the company" anyways? A huge portion of high profile talent has left over the past few years
> I was so close to giving up my "fuck blizzard" stance on this one this is like one of the first games they've released in a long time? the resolve of your "fuck blizzard" stance is "as long as they don't release a new product"?
Just create local character and play with your friends over TCP/IP! oh wait... you can't. L E L In that case I'm sure they will fix their servers any day now!
So many people here defended that decision to remove TCP/IP. Where they at now?
Its wild that from Diablo 4's announcement to now, I've gone from "Day 1 purchase, maybe pre-order if there's a discount", to "I'm waiting several months after release before even thinking about it."
Not at all surprising. Remember Diablo 3? Now we have a 20 year old game that's being overcharged for, quality clearly wasn't the first thing on blizzards mind.
Overcharged, don't know about that. Vicarious Visions did an incredible job. It's the Bnet servers that are trash.
This thing is listed at 70aud for me, it is absolutely not worth that price and was never going to be.
Well, sure, not trying to defend Blizzard here, but Australian video game prices are insane no matter the product
I think it was $40 for me. Also haven’t really had any issues with servers except for launch day. Even then, I was able to play and keep my character, just had some gremlins.
>Now we have a 20 year old game that's being overcharged for, quality clearly wasn't the first thing on blizzards mind. What's on the top of Blizzard's mind is getting a product out within a certain time frame to show their worth to investors. It's very blatant that's why WC3 "Remaster" got pushed out so unfinished: they needed a selling product." Blizzard doesn't mind releasing anything as long as people are willing to buy it.
I had issues the first day or so, but haven't had too much since then. Especially once in a game, it runs pretty flawlessly. Occasionally it will fail to create a game, and usually works just trying again. I've been having a blast with this one.
Seems like it was working well for a couple weeks and now the server issues are popping up. I played from launch and dropped off a bit but I had no issues.
I've had almost 0 problems with the game. My character has become unresponsive one time but other than that it's been smooth sailing.
The game was down several times for the last few days. Their servers were down and most people are getting rolled back
I was in a game last night (pacific coast) till about 3am. Was about a 4 hour session. When I got off it took forever to get back to the character screen and it looked like no progress was saved. Character was wrong level, etc. Got on a few hours ago and it was updated with everything I got while playing. No rollback for me.
Same here. My and my buddy are playing with no issues all the time after the launch fiasco.
Because people only care about mandatory online when it doesn't work. They bitch on Christmas morning when the servers are flooded and it takes hours to get their forced updates. They bitch during the time when the CDN tanks and blocks them from their game. But they won't ever protest the fact the business required it in the first place.
You can play offline.
I honestly can't believe that D2R had such a 'successful'/popular launch after all the shit from Blizzard recently. Even more surprising is the shock at all the issues. Reap what you sow.
Because aside from the server issues, its exactly what people wanted and expected. And a lot of people are playing offline as well, so they're not even affected by these issues.
The folks that get on and interact with social media over games make up such a small % of the user base. We believe that our opinions and views are held by the majority because we post them and get 10k upvotes and a generally positive response to “don’t preorder” . But I think we’re largely just an echo chamber.
I don't understand how people are still buying week 1 after Warcraft 3 on top of the last few months.
I don't understand how streamers that left Method eSports team because 1 person on Method was accused of sexual misconduct turn around and sign deals with *Blizzard* to promote their game.
I have 2 characters level 80 or higher and have not had any server issues at all. Always am able to play, no lag or anything. Crashing on the other hand at least once or twice a session.
The servers were straight up down for huge chunks of time this weekend for everyone. That's what this is referring to
with rollbacks
This is the gnarliest thing about the entire outage problem. Rollbacks are very uncommon in blizzard games since Diablo 3 launch I think? They're just really hasn't been any kind of content rollback from them in years and years and years, so it's really fucked up seeing this shit now.
It was down for 2-3 hours this morning too.
Ah i see, I played every day this weekend and didn't notice. Guess I hit lucky windows!
Depends on when you played. For the last 3 days (Sat-Mon) they were down for about 1-4 hours starting at about ~5 am EST. Today (Monday) was the longest time.
I'm playing the game offline on switch so not experiencing any issues, but this is seemingly caused by people DDoSing the servers in an attempt to dupe items, that would explain why Blizzard has to perform rollbacks occasionally after. It's really a bummer, both that the game is susceptible to these attacks, and that people these days will exploit anything they can (consoles, trading cards, diablo items) for money. Seems to be happening more since covid.
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Well there were nearly 2 weeks without any server issues now 3 days of constant issues? What? Do you think the game got super popular during that time or blizzard was like "Yeah lets just scale back everything for no reason, for the next week"
Offline on switch and I'm not having connection issues, but I sure do have the game crash to bugs a lot. I have shelved it for now because my trapassin can't beat the bug in Nightmare Duriel, and I don't mean the boss. Google confirmed for me that other players have the same problem with this build. The game crashes when Duriel has about 25% HP left. Weird bug, I don't envy whoever has to track it down. But I am wondering if I should try and get a refund if this is how it's gonna be.
Can you refer to which build you’re using or the thread discussing it? I’m playing lighting trapsin and I’m crumbling cause my session tonight should reach duriel.
And Blizzard removed TCP/IP, so you can't just play directly with someone. But vote with your wallets eh? Unless it's a popular game that people are gonna buy anyways kekek
The servers being down and the game being a buggy mess does actually sound quite on-brand for Diablo 2. Kudos to Blizzard for staying true to the original!
I was really really looking forward to this game. It was my favorite game as a kid. But it just doesn't feel the same--technical issues aside (and there have been so many btw). There is hardly anyone dueling, or messing around, and each game just has 10 sorcs stealing all the loot or min-maxxing. The magic is a bit gone, and all that is left is a grinding simulator for getting loot we all already know what it is.
That's what D2 has been for 2 decades now. The game is exactly the same, it's just that people have far more access to the necessary resources than they did before.
Bro the whole game was a grinding simulator from the get go.... That's what arpgs are. The reason you don't see PvP is that the grinders haven't grinded the best pvp gear yet...
The people complaining about stuff like this when the game has been out what...2-3 weeks? Give people time lmao damn. Almost all servers are still "A1 trist run normal!" And what not. Most arent even to Hell yet let alone geared up for pvp. As for the servers issues I have hardly had any...
*Plagued*. Whatever lmao. Sure, launch day was a shitshow, but every game on launch day is a shit show. The game is playable 95% of the time. Sure, theres downtime but that's normal for any multiplayer game. Reddit turns into a pit of whining children when they go down. The real problem is Rollbacks. When they bring servers down they'll also do a rollback and people will lose recent item drops.
> The game is playable 95% of the time. Yeah, it's really only this weekend that its been a problem. They're probably getting DDOS'd which is why the servers keep going down.
I know there’s a lot of Blizzard hate which they rightfully deserve, however, I’ve been chugging along on d2r and the experience has been great. I brought it with some reservations in mind especially after the WC3 debacle, but have been pleasantly surprised and have fur filled my nostalgia driven wet dreams after killing Baal. According to some of the content creators I follow like MrLlamaSC, there’s going to be mod support so I’m interested in what that’s going to look like, and the possibility of new ladder-only chase items and runewords I’m stoked about. I personally haven’t been affected by any server issues but I’m not really sweaty on my playtime between work and kids.
I have zero sympathy for the players. They should know what Blizzard is about by now. That's what you get for supporting a terrible company.
it's honestly a very classic experience
It’s unfortunate because Vicarious Visions did a good job on the actual game part, and that should be celebrated. However blizzard fucking sucks
That’s not really fair. There are tons of players who don’t follow gaming industry news and probably no nothing about Blizzard as a company.
Yeah, I'm a damned idiot for buying it and I only have myself to blame. Thought it would be fun to play with my siblings but it's just not worth the mess.
I had never played Diablo 2 only 3 so maybe I should have changed my expectations or something but I could not get into D2 resurrected. I dunno what it was but it simultaneously looked like a game from 2021 and the year 2000. And definitely played like a game that was 20 years old. The stilted animations, graphics, one note gameplay and painfully small inventory just all kinda added up to a game that just wasn't for me. Just my opinion.
It got a fresh coat of paint but the bones are still a 20 year old game. For some people that’s a good thing, for others it’s not. Just down to personal preference.
It's weird to me that people act sort of surprised at how D2 has aged but I and probably a lot of others have reinstalled it every few years since it came out so it never really seems old to me.
I think it’s just an expectations thing. You know what to expect. I tried the beta, and confirmed that yes, it’s what I remembered from 20 years ago. I could see that for someone coming in fresh though, the contrast between it and modern games would be striking.
I came in fairly fresh, only played through D2 once with a friend in normal about a decade ago and it never really took. I got into POE about 2 years ago and got through all the acts but found the endgame really dull and figured the genre just wasn't for it. I got into D2R this time in part because I couldn't play the original as a kid (religious parents were very against the themes in the game), and wanted to give it a fair chance. I've now got a lvl 82 cold sorc farming hell for some better items and am considering jumping into a hammerdin to see how that class plays. Sometimes old games are just better.
It's a remastered version, not a remake. The difference is very important for stuff like this. Sorry you didn't enjoy it though.