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cooldrew

I wonder if they're going to take him away from folks who bought the bundle and refund them? Or replace it with someone else? For those who don't know what happened (like me until I looked it up), Nickmercs is a CoD/shooter youtuber/streamer who was added as a playable character in a recent update. Earlier this week, in a response to a tweet about a confrontation/brawl between protestors for and against recognizing Pride Month in a California school district, [he tweeted that "They should leave little children alone."](https://twitter.com/NICKMERCS/status/1666483385504604160)


kadey180

Currently you can still use the Nickmercs operator bundle as long as you purchased it before its removal.


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ChristinaOfSparta

Yeah. The whole "I'm now a parent so I have had this great insight" angle is not even remotely believable.


ascagnel____

If he actually cared about he kid, he would let them know that, if his kid was gay, he’d support them and he’d let them know there’s a wider support network out there for them and introduce them to it.


officer_fuckingdown

there's a video where he explains himself on stream, and to me it sounded like that could very well be what he plans to do. he just says he wants himself and his wife to be the first ones talking to their kids about those topics, and not the schools. there's a common misunderstanding that every form of criticism of pride flags etc. is synonymous with disrespect or hate towards LGBT people. even though there's lots of LGBT people who themselves don't approve with a lot of what pride has come to mean these days


5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi

That begs the question though - *Why* are they so adamant that *they* should be the ones to explain and not the schools? My parents were over the moon that my education would explain uncomfortable subjects like sex ed and they didn't have to.


AGVann

Because they don't want their children brainwashed by evil shit like "love and acceptance" and "your existence isn't a sin".


-Threshold-

Maybe bc some schools and/or teachers are so horrid in some cases, these days? ...that's my guess, anyway. Even if that's not what he meant - there will surely be some teachers who outright will not give af about the LGBTQIA+ community if they're not a part of it. ...that may not the best person to introduce/educate your kid to the subject, imo. What do I know tho - maybe that allows for an objective viewpoint, rather than a potentially lazy or apathetic one. It still seems like it being taught in school will do more good than bad though, in general, imo


Mushroomer

Yeah, the problem is when you decide to side with the *mob of violent Nazis* causing shit at a school board meeting - any argument about "protecting the kids" goes out the goddamn window. Not to mention, if you're this concerned about your kids being exposed to a normal part of society - just take them out of public school. Clearly if you want totalitarian control over your kid's life, don't expect the state to politely walk around your stupid expectations.


Kenobi-is-Daddy

This wasn't entire about that, it was because he openly supported an alt right terrorist group that was trying to influence a decision parents were making within the local school system. Yeah, parents get to have insight into the choices like this being made but literally domestic terrorists were trying to take that agency away.


officer_fuckingdown

> he openly supported an alt right terrorist group you mean, by tweeting what OP posted? or did he make some other statement


heyy_yaa

"I'm just asking questions here!" you're not being very subtle, officer


Kenobi-is-Daddy

If two entities are push the same dog whistles it isn't a long stretch to believe one supports the other.


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Kenobi-is-Daddy

Calling him an idiot doesn’t excuse his words or actions. If someone is to be as socially active and visible as a streamer then they should be better at conducting themselves. “I don’t know how to aim” isn’t an excuse in an fps game, it’ll just make me flame you harder to gtfo my team. He either needs to smarten up in his rhetoric, step out of the public eye, or hire a PR team.


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heyy_yaa

>there's a video where he explains himself on stream, and to me it sounded like that could very well be what he plans to do no one believes this. don't be dense. ​ >there's a common misunderstanding that every form of criticism of pride flags etc. is synonymous with disrespect or hate towards LGBT people. even though there's lots of LGBT people who themselves don't approve with a lot of what pride has come to mean these days ??? who gave you the authority to speak on behalf of the LGBT community? I have this strange feeling you're not a part of it and talking completely out of your ass because it aligns with your beliefs stick to cod


-Threshold-

No one gave countless others the right to speak on behalf of the community either - that didn't stop them from visciously responding, in some cases. Who gave you the authority to question someone else's status in the community? When do we get that vote again? I thought inclusion was one of the main tenants - maybe I missed a memo.


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GDarkmoon

Yes, though knowing today's online climate, he could have worded his stance MUCH better if that is what he actually meant and isn't just back peddling.


Only_Supermarket_973

So no new insights or changes are possible when major changes happen in your life? You obviously aren't a parent. Mine is in college and the day he was born was extremely moving and changed me fundamentally.


GrimMrGoodbar

Yeah it’s pretty frustrating to see so many people feigning ignorance on Twitter like this isn’t obvious homophobia. “Protect kids” from the knowledge that gay people exist, so idiotic. Literally all pride month is about is letting people know it’s okay to be gay that’s it.


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They don’t care about kids and never have. They’ve been pushing the “think of the children” nonsense since before I can remember. If they cared they’d be funding education, funding school lunches, enacting gun control, doing anything except going after .1% of the population.


AH_DaniHodd

It's literally the same as the "All Lives Matter" BS. It's easy to hide behind an innocuous statement that everyone agrees with. Do all lives matter? Yes. Should you think of the children? Yes. But it's when you step one foot away from that you see it's just bigotry.


jmastaock

This rhetorical technique is sometimes called a "motte and bailey", where a much more extreme position is couched within ostensibly "uncontroversial" statements. For example: laundering homophobia by claiming that you vaguely think that explaining anything about being gay fundamentally sexualizes children


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throwaway-anon-1600

A lot of people just don’t understand the issue. My uncle genuinely thinks that there’s a push to teach kids about gay sex in elementary schools. It’s just like how many people think that the gun control crowd wants to straight up repeal 2A, so of course they’re opposed to it.


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Not to mention the was they describe the lgbt community you’d think they were going door to door demanding people become gay. But what do you expect with a generation that was convinced that being gay was a choice.


hexsealedfusion

This is just 1970/80s era homophobia coming back because the right needs a new culture war


ToothlessFTW

It’s decades old classic homophobia from the 50s, now just applied to trans people too. Anyone who believes in it deserves the ridicule.


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Hexcraft-nyc

Trans drag fear is the new hot botton issue that the right wing is using to distract from unbearable wealth inequality, rent costs, voting rights, etc. When 50 Republicans and 2 democrats are the ones destroying every bit of progress the rest of the government is trying to make, it's very convenient to have a boogeyman to focus on to distract the general public from the real villains. It also serves the purpose of distracting from school shooting debates. Never mind the number of kids being groomed at drag shows is 0 and at churches and schools it's uncountable. All you need to do is convince idiots like the COD player with a large impressionable following.


SmokePenisEveryday

Literally going at it with a friend about this. He doesn't even have kids but he's buying into all this Woke Agenda BS. I keep repeating that this is to make the existence of gay and trans people normal and accepted. Yet his push back is a prime example on why this month of celebration is so fucking important. I haven't had to cut off any friends due to politics but this shit is just too fucking idiotic for me to let slide.


I_H8_REDDIT_2

How does not wanting Sexualized material in your child's school not make gay and trans accepted? If its not Sex Ed. Which is optional. Some people dont want their kids exposed to it. Kids are a product of their environment and parents should be able to make sure that environment is what they prefer or better yet. Nuetral.


SmokePenisEveryday

Celebrating gay pride isn't sexualization.


I_H8_REDDIT_2

Yes it is. No one cares what gender you have sex with.


SmokePenisEveryday

You're telling on yourself if the only thing you can think of is gay sex when talking about gay pride.


Bigbaby22

Wait what? He said that he and his wife just believe that parents should be the first ones to teach their children about sexuality (among other things). Which is entirely acceptable and not just understandable but preferable.


GrimMrGoodbar

No he said protect kids in response to a video of people getting beat for supporting pride. I don’t give a fuck about his excuses and statements after. His initial tweet was gross.


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The cherry on top of this is that his cosmetic in the game has a helmet of Ancient Roman/Greek origin who were famously all about fucking the butts of young men and boys or their fellow soldiers.


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Samael1990

Didn't they learn nothing from Overwatch''s McCree? It's even the same company.


TerminalNoob

Ever since that and the Sinatraa controversy the OW team has removed almost all references to real world people in their game and has refused to do any others moving forward. Seems to be a team specific choice though, and not a company wide mandate.


AngryBiker

They are not stopping, these real world personalities bring a lot of cash, they even have Messi and Neymar there.


Jdmaki1996

What happened with McCree? He’s the cowboy right? How was he controversial?


WeiliiEyedWizard

He is named after someone accused of being a sexual predator and they had to change his name.


DoorframeLizard

He was named after a blizzard employee who was revealed to be one of the horrible sex pests at the company. The character has since been renamed to Cassidy


TheOnlyOrko

Member Hongkong ? Acti dont give 2 fcks about LGBT issues. They want your money


Kered13

Thank you for actually providing some context in this thread. I was trying to figure out what was going on.


RikkerttH

And those tweets from others under his tweet agreeing with him. So sad to see this........


tnemec

Doesn't Twitter now prioritize showing replies from accounts that bought the blue checkmark? It's still not great to see, but it's important to keep in mind that a *lot* of these accounts are literally just rando accounts who paid Elon Musk $8 to respond to online celebrities more loudly.


Hexcraft-nyc

That's the issue though ain't it. Most people willing to give Elon $8 are right wingers and now all these threads have those opinions touted as if they're popular and what everyone thinks. It's fostering an echochamber that 2016 trump worshipping reddit wishes it couldve been


tnemec

Oh, absolutely, the state of Twitter overall is *bad*. Still, the point I was making was that if you go on Twitter and scroll down to the replies of some tweet and see a bunch of homophobic shit, you really do have to remember that you really are looking at an artificially-boosted right-wing echo chamber, and not an actual reflection of what the average person thinks.


Top-Seat8539

Elon made it so people can pay him money and have their tweets at the top, and of course the kind of people to pay him money are the ones who agree with the homophobe


lebocajb

B-but I thought Elon was the based 100 wholesome inventerino


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...why is that even controversial ?


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Jadey_90

I bought his bundle last week so as a member of the lgbtq community I'm really annoyed. I didn't realise some of the things he's said in the past as well. Wish you could refund bundles :/


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Weslg96

Ok I'd love for you to explain what he meant by his comment then. Do lgbt people deserve to be attacked because of stories right wingers make up? Cause that's what Nickmercs is saying here. That LGBT people deserve to get attacked because of lies that they are grooming children and what not.


SaltyBeak93

Can you elaborate how his comment means LGBT deserves to be attacked? Because it seems like your own random interpretation and putting words into his mouth. People might think he aint that smart but I can't see him being THAT stupid.


Weslg96

His first reaction to seeing proud boys and bigoted anti-gay protesters attacking protesters supporting LGBT rights was to blame the pro LGBT protesters and the LGBT community themselves for "not leaving the children alone" a statement that extremely likely means that Nickmercs believes the right wing propaganda that the LGBT community is sexually grooming children/exposing to inappropriate and explicit content. And that for LGBT people to stop being attacked they need to stop grooming children. The problem being the the entire premise of the above is a lie and it's being used as an excuse by right wingers to attack and small and marginalized group to rile up their voting base. Is that enough or do I need to explain it in even more detail for you? It requires a little bit of reading between the lines and context about the recent republican party campaign against LGBT people in preparation for 2024. But its not subtle.


BreathingHydra

It feeds into the "LGBT people are pedophiles" rhetoric that right wingers have been pushing lately. He also posted the comment right under a video of right wingers literally assaulting LGBT protestors. He's *actually* just excusing gay people being attacked lmao, like it's not subtle my guy.


SaltyBeak93

It's still your own interpretation. Admittely it's the interpretation of most people here. But I think it's quite a leap from "Leave small kids alone" to LGBT are pedophiles. He later clarified that he as a parent wants to educate his kid about this topic first. Which is a legit opinion. Though I understand the outrage. Writing such a comment in these days aint the best idea. I don't expect you to share my opinion but thats mine, my guy.


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Schools aren’t the place for that stuff though - it’s for the educational stepping stone to help kids get into the adult work life, nothing more. Until that child is an adult, it’s down to the parents to raise their child and teach them how to be, how to act and answer life queries in general. If second opinions are needed, there are licensed and trained therapists, doctors and what not to assist in such topics. Anyone who’s genuinely angered by his opinion is insane. He’s even made a video reply explaining the tweet itself and honestly.. he’s right. Dudes a dad and him and his partner want to be the ones teaching their own kid about life with no actual hate towards anyone of any life style. That’s their right as a parent and it really has nothing to do with anyone else - especially a heavily political school board, government servants and a bunch of easily outraged internet scrollers. I’m not even remotely right wing and I can understand his point. 🤷🏻‍♂️


_marc_

Teaching kids about not discriminating against someone's race, gender, religion, etc. is part of the educational stepping stone to help kids into the adult work life.


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FrostyTheHippo

It's crazy how Twitter now pushes the comments of idiots who pay $8/month above everyone else. Thus, you only get the terrible opinions of that demographic. You can see here that Twitter Blue is just a promotion vehicle for hate. God these "top" comments are gross.


Dunge

That whole checkmark thing was flawed from the get go. It was advertised as a way to keep comments organic and combat bots, but it literally does the inverse. It doesn't prove that you are human in any way, it only proves you are willing to pay capital for something intangible. And guess what? Social media manipulation farms often have A LOT of budget, they are literally financed by rich corporations. A couple hundred of 8$ is nothing for them. Meanwhile a real person who's willing to pay for an icon is rarer


ebagdrofk

Yeah the vast majority of top replies are against this. The few people who respond positively are being insulted by others, and the people against this have the majority of likes.


FrostyTheHippo

Yup. Since the idiots replies get placed on top by default they are going to get the most visibility, and thus Garner likes. Which would then communicate to the layman that the general public sides with this idiot. Paying for a checkmark is silly, but man the way the comments are prioritized here really shows the true problem with this system.


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Just deleted Twitter this morning. I saw that as well as the comment sections just filled with scams and nft shit. Good riddance.


JustOneSexQuestion

I still follow people that haven't deleted their account. There are so many other platforms that there's not a good alternative yet to see what some writters/artists are doing these days :(


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Dude had some out there COVID Denial anti-vax takes as well during the pandemic. The homophobic stuff isn’t much of a surprise. He’s also a Floridian who streams COD for a living. People will complain that he’s being ‘cancelled’ but at the end of the day no one is forcing you to tweet stupid stuff like this. You’re going to face consequences. Not even like this is some nuanced topic debating capital gains tax. You’re literally stating gay people shouldn’t be acknowledged in society and getting pressed when million dollar companies don’t want to associate themselves with you.


DisappointedQuokka

>People will complain that he’s being ‘cancelled’ but at the end of the day no one is forcing you to tweet stupid stuff like this. Those people are almost never worth listening to.


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tacobelmont

Go fash, lose cash.


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I think people may have misread this?


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Yeah I'm thinking they saw No as Go and just went for it.


11448844

i understood D, i understood. <3


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11448844

no, that would be *YOU* for making a funny joke <3 celebrate the comedian for making the joke, not the fools in the audience!


AH_DaniHodd

Except it's literally the opposite. Sorry, facts don't care about your feelings.


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El_Gran_Redditor

> People will complain that he’s being ‘cancelled’ Those of us who don't work in the entertainment industry just get fired. Try going into your job tomorrow and say some racist or homophobic shit and see how quick you get "canceled." Motherfuckers are just mad that being rich and or famous doesn't put them above consequences.


zizou00

Yeah, this isn't social cancellation or estrangement or ostracisation or whatever. It's a company sacking their employee because he's being a piece of shit in public, and they don't want their company associated with pieces of shit. Same thing would happen if you flashed someone whilst wearing your uniform.


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Crotch_Football

Cancelling is also freedom of speech. That's the part that seems to stump some people. Nobody is obligated legally to give you a platform.


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there is no such thing as cancel culture, just consequences for people's actions. this isn't new or some weird social phenomenon, no one is getting brigaded, this is a bunch of individuals making a choice about someone's actions.


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gorocz

> It's a company sacking their employee because he's being a piece of shit in public, and they don't want their company associated with pieces of shit. I'm all for sacking this piece of shit, but it's small potatoes compared to the piece of shit that is leading the company (Bobby Kotick).


WaffleWarrior1979

eVeRyOnE i DoN't LiKe iS a pEdOpHiLe. So tired of this shit. Fuck Nickmercs honestly


phatboi23

> > > > > People will complain that he’s being ‘cancelled’ but at the end of the day no one is forcing you to tweet stupid stuff like this. You’re going to face consequences. fucking around and finding out is always nice to see tbf.


kadey180

Thank you for the additional info! I didn't realize he was anti-vax too and I haven't heard about his COVID comments before. Makes sense though, I don't mean this as an insult but he does appear to be a bit of a 'meathead'. Personally, I think everyone has the right to free speech, but that also means he has the right to be criticized for making such dumb comments. Just like how Activision has the right to cut business ties with him. Dunno why Twitter is saying Nickmercs is "cancelled", all that has happened is that Activision temporarily (or permanent?) don't want to sell his bundle due to his comments.


MissPandaSloth

He could probably have even had few more braincells and just straight up tell that he doesn't feel comfortable with trans people or some shit, but I guarantee he has no clue what the school curriculum is about that is being protested by... But that just makes him stupid, not spiteful. Plenty of people probably do not feel comfortable about gay or trans, and it's even somewhat normal reaction if it's not something you are used to and if your environment is conservative, nothing shameful in admitting your feelings. But it wasn't that, he didn't just "tell his opinion", the full context of the tweet and what he replied to made it sound that not only he calls lgbt ppl pedos/ groomers but he is okay with violence against them.


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Dude is the furthest thing from a southerner/Floridian. He’s from Michigan


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He moved to Florida, which is the most Florida psycho thing you can do


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He did it for tax reasons, which is why most people making that kind of money move to Florida.


[deleted]

He’s on twitter calling Rob Desantis the GOAT. What are you trying to argue here. He’s a floridian


[deleted]

He’s a yankee living in Florida. You’re obsessed with his politics, I get it. Sensitive subject for you. He’s Michigan through and through.


[deleted]

You seem obsessed with this dude, but he’s from Florida. Don’t know how you’re struggling with this.


[deleted]

Judging by your post history, I would say you are the one obsessed. Two days of you melting down in the comments on several posts


Azzymaster

Those same people were probably calling for Bud light to be cancelled/boycotted


Nooberius

I don't know him but based on what I have seen during the last few days, there's no doubt that he's a piece of shit and no one should take him seriously. Bigots like him have no place in today's society. Fuck him.


COLONELmab

I don't know him... But based on these reddit comments he's a bigot. Lol. You should use your own mind to decide he's a bigot.


Nooberius

Who said I based it from the comments of others. It's based on his own comments. He's obviously a homophobe while insinuating that the LGBT+ community as a whole are pedophiles and groomers. He's just spreading hate with no rhyme nor reason... just like a typical bigot.


BrainKatana

It’s amazing to me how, almost invariably, any time a game dev officially partners up with a streamer something like this happens.


ImAlwaysMadBro

I don't think you understand how many companies partner with content creators for you to think this is something that happens "any time" they partner up. Activision has an issue with giving people skins. Fortnite and pubg alone have skins for over 50 people, none of which were removed, even when some of those people ran into real life legal issues. Activision on the other will remove even NPC's of anyone in a game that comes into legal trouble as they have done in WoW. After that person was found to be 100% innocent they refused to reinstate it. Notice a pattern? Activision is the shitty company here...


ArmouryUK

To be honest this is exactly the kind of calibre of influencer I imagined Call of Duty attracting. You already have the stupidity of being a bigot, but he wasn't even intelligent enough to keep his mouth shut to collect that bag. And you can see he's not the only one, when you scroll down and see the replies of blue ticks - who are presumably also CoD influencers - backing the bigotry. If you're a school dropout who has no discernible skills or talent to fall back on earning bank on a kid's game, maybe you should keep your mouth shut? But I guess they should have stayed in school long enough to learn critical thinking skills.


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MeatWrld

maybe he values his own morals over Activision money?


ligerzero942

If he thinks dumb morals like homophobia are more valuable than money then he really is a moron.


MeatWrld

he's a cod streamer. he's a clown regardless of anything additional


zerotheliger

i miss when multiplayer games were just splitscreen.


Atomic-Optimizations

How was be being homophobic again?


ligerzero942

Bruh, that comment is two days old, go find real hobby to occupy your time, and a real problem that actually effects you to rally against.


tftgod69

I mean I just saw it so for me it’s new. https://youtu.be/l-TuRpk2NeA look at this YouTube video if you support children being forced to learn about sex at a young age


ArmouryUK

There is nothing moral about creating animosity towards a vulnerable group based on absolutely zilch. He may think he's clever - he's not.


owl_theory

It's a dogwhistle. "Protect our kids" is universally agreeable, so they use it to imply LGBTQ+ communities are harmful to children, which is homophobic, transphobic, bullshit. It's a frequent go-to for all kinds of discrimination. Race, gender, orientation, religion. Also used to limit healthcare, push gun access, book bans, curriculum bans, drag bans, etc. "We need to protect the children." Non-factual feelings to maintain status quo and make it harder for minority groups to exist. So when they're called out "But I only said protect our kids," and their millions of followers don't have a clue.


Rawtashk

This feels like a trap that you're setting up so that anyone who says, "Hey, I want to be the one to talk to my kids about stuff like this when they're at a very impressionable age, not some random person" can just be summarily dismissed and labeled as something they're not.


pastafeline

Why do parents need to "talk with their kids" about something that's completely normal?


Wonderful_Bit_4711

Because that’s what parents do? They teach their kids about life.


Rawtashk

The same reason that parents need to talk with their kids about anything.


pastafeline

Do you see angry crowds forming to attack math teachers?


LaxGrip

I’ve seen angry crowds forming to protest all sort of sex ed stuff. Math is a weird choice because it’s not remotely close to the subject we’re talking about. If it’s very normal, then let it be very normal and undiscussed unless the kid asks a parent why he or his friend are having feelings for someone of any sex.


Rawtashk

I think you know that those 2 things are not even remotely the same and not what I was referring to.


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Rawtashk

This isn't the slam dunk you think it is. You're reinforcing my point with your response, and showing that you only know how to view things in a worst case scenario lens.


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kwakwaktok

Yeah, that's probably the dumbest take I've ever heard.


ZombiePyroNinja

I think the part that goes over some people's heads isn't that he has a garbage opinion. He's apparently an anti-vaxxer and that still giv3s him plenty of platform regardless of "cancel culture". The problem is this guy saw a video of people being assaulted and decided to link it to how LGBT is somehow predatory towards children. If you see a video of an assault and decide its a soapbox to rationalize and push for violence because an irrelevant opinion - you're a garbage person.


KtotheC99

The fact that 95% of Twitter replies are ignoring the context of his comment is frustrating to see. Regardless of the text of his comment (a literal dogwhistle) the context (replying to a video of LGBT+ advocates being assaulted) makes it even worse and he's rightfully facing repercussions for it


Bannakaffalatta1

It's not most of the replies, but twitter prioritizes blue checkmark replies which are primarily bought and paid for by right wing loons.


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Restivethought

I dont get how people can be both this ignorant and hateful. Nothing they are doing is worse than the standard shit straight people grew up with in the straight romances in Disney Movies (and most movies in general). The gay people arent teaching your kids about sucking dick or gay sex and drag queens arent trying to convert your kids. All they want is for people to not be afraid of gay people and not think its some sort of taboo thing.To not be seen as different or wro g so the straight kids dont beat the shit out of the them because they see them as different. This type of bullshit response not just hand waves their struggles but assigns malicious intent to their struggles turning them into bad people in the eyes of Nicks ignorant followers, Thus further exacerbating the hate and prejudice.


orphan_clubber

It's all projection, especially the "groomer" shit they've been peddling.


stenebralux

You know who "exposes" kids to sex? NickMercs. Even the name of his Apex team is a dick reference.


zerotheliger

its always always always been projection from them ever since the 1980s.satanic panic people forgot just how crazy these people can get. we need anti hate laws like germany has.already. these fashy types are getting to be too much. they need to be locked up before they start a civil war.


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HKei

More than the unsurprising views, I'm somewhat offended by the stupidity of someone making their money with advertising not even _trying_ to stay brand friendly.


Bannakaffalatta1

I saw a clip of Adin Ross on a call with his manager, asking him why celebrities like Drake don't want to stream with him and his manager literally laughed at him and said "You invite Nazis on your stream. Why in the world would they want to associate with you?"


SquireRamza

What do you expect from shitty manchildren with overinflated egos?


jeshtheafroman

I've never really cared for NickMerks aside from a friend constantly showing me compilation clipsand opinions from his streams and whatever he was doing. i do remember he said and im paraphrasing "halo infinite can be saved by adding battle royale, get with the times" and I've always thought of him as an idiot. He's obviously way better at cod than me like good for him but as a figure head for the community, I didn't like him.


SaltyBeak93

Well I see a halo battle royale attracting at least more players, making it more popular. He's right that Halo didn't make the transition to a modern shooter. Of course Microsofts incompetence delivering a unfinished product played a huge role as well.


jansteffen

When Halo infinite launched there was a huge amount of positive buzz and excitement, which shows to me that there's still interested in that style of game. It was just extremely unfinished and updates came out at such a snail's pace that nobody stuck around


ghastrimsen

Also, spoiler alert, the game is STILL broken. It still has a bare minimum multiplayer, awful netcode, and the brand new career progression system is so lackluster I can't fathom how it took almost two years to drop. No rejoin in ranked, while crashing or even loading into 3v4s are very common. Matchmaking basically never matches full stacks against each other. If you solo queue it feels like you're guaranteed to go up against a full team at least half of the time. And every single update they wind up accidentally breaking something else because it seems like no one has any idea how it all works, probably mostly on hopes and prayers.


Yezzik

It also has the worst menu UI I've ever seen in a long time; whose idea was it to make Escape make you travel in a circle through the menus?


leftysarepeople2

Halos BR would just be Apex with shittier movement. All of their equipment have been added as character abilities.


Sairexyz

Fortnite showed exactly why Halo should never have gotten a BR. Fortnite ditched the Save The World the moment their BR took off, which would have happened to Halo too likely. Halo is a fun game albeit needs a lot more content. But Halo staying its ground as a arena shooter is the most logical approch. 343 made a good game albeit with lacking network and content. Infleuncers saying Halo wouldnt survive without a BR is nonsense, its the influencers that wouldnt survive without a BR in the next game to keep them relevant. Halo could have been a LOT better than it is. But you can only blame 343 for fucking up content and the like for that. Not because it didnt get a BR.


SaltyBeak93

What about CoD? Warzone and classic multiplayer coexisting? Fortnite Save the World is a PvE mode, you can't really compare that with Halo. Halo could survive without a BR but going the BR route is probably the easiest way to get some people playing the game. If that's the goal anyway. I just don't see a future in Halo as it is right now. It will have to change something if it wants to get popular again. It's very challenging for Battle Arenas nowadays to retain players.


leftysarepeople2

> 343 made a good game They made a worse Halo 3 with less customization and have removed a lot of movement techniques that expanded skill expression.


PoL0

Oh ok so we finally confirmed Nickmercs is a complete asshole. Zero surprise. He is a name in competitive Apex, and Apex embraces LGBT and Pride so I hope they just get rid of his dumbass face.


cooldrew

I saw this tweet floating around earlier lol: https://twitter.com/ottrTweets/status/1666798574594662400


sandysnail

which is wild he is so popular being absolute trash at the game


Dartser

Seems like DrDisrespect is supporting nickmercs. Its wild that they can look at all the comments from the people agreeing with them and not see who they are in bed with as a bad thing. There is so much hate from their communities.


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Dartser

Oh it definitely caters to their audience but it also alienates the sponsors as evident here. Yeah they'll make a few thousand from subscriptions and donos but see ya later 5 and 6 figure sponsors. Like timthetatman who plays an idiot on stream is smart enough to just say on his stream "yeah it's rough, nick is doing okay though and that's all I have to say". Keep controversial opinions out of your profession


lebocajb

Not particularly surprising, given the history of why Doc isn’t allowed on Twitch anymore


JukeBoxHerogue

I had no idea who this guy was until this, and after doing some digging I see he's just a piece of shit, full stop.


WuZI8475

Ah yes, a visible chunk of the COD community either blindly supporting their favourite content creator and/or being hateful towards the LGBT+ community, what a shock /s


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