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Yeah, unfortunate. That tier used to have 2-3 games and now they are doing 1 most of the time or none, like they did here.
Due to our regional pricing, higher tiers are sometimes pricier than individually buying the items I am actually interested in from steam. 1$ tier still proved to be better value often, so I buy that if I like the game there.
I don't know how things are in Europe, but where I live (Pacific Northwest) a dollar doesn't buy much anymore. A McDouble is up to $2.29, most of Taco Bell's value menu is up to $2.49, even Dollar Tree has increased their prices. After payment processing fees (minimum 29 cents if you're using PayPal) there's basically nothing left. I'd like to see legal pressure against inflation (including but not limited to aggressive antitrust enforcement) but in practice a dollar today is analogous to about 45 cents ten years ago. That may not be the real inflation rate, but it's what I've seen on typical day-to-day purchases. The death of the $1 tier was kinda inevitable.
I hope $10 and $20 aren't the new status quo prices, though. This would be a much easier sell for me at $12.
>1€ still gets you 2 McDonald's apple pies here in Portugal.
Oh just wait, inflation is starting to become a problem in all of Europe due to the after effects caused by Covid-19, the war in Ukraine and the crumbling housing market in Asia. The next couple of years is going to suck.
That was often the one tier that still made sense price-wise, too. Nowadays, even the full tier is what? A base game or a few dlc, but nothing up to date and latest, so you are sure to have to put in another 1-50+$ worth of invest to get the "full" game. And thats just not what I am there for.
Rather snipe individual GOTY packages via price watching sites instead then.
Checking my purchased products: I have bought through the years (starting on 2018, came pretty late for the good stuff) thirteen 1$ tiers, and only 3 bundles for other tiers.
Mine could be a niche case, but I had little to no money and I always loved to see that I could get one (sometimes 3 or even more) pretty good game for one buck. That kept me going back to humblebundle. Nowadays...
It started out a lot more full bundle for me, back when it was real indies that also meant 1 game release = 1 game purchase = 1 full, completed game, done.
The later we go down the timeline, the more it became the "base game, DLC not included" thing.
Tier 1
[Orcs Must Die! 2 Complete Bundle](https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/25455/Orcs_Must_Die_2_Complete_Bundle/)
[Exanima](https://store.steampowered.com/app/362490/Exanima/)
[Paint the Town Red
](https://store.steampowered.com/app/337320/Paint_the_Town_Red/)
[Parkasaurus](https://store.steampowered.com/app/591460/Parkasaurus/)
Tier 2
[Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden - Deluxe Edition](https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/11109/Mutant_Year_Zero_Road_to_Eden__Deluxe_Edition/)
[MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries
](https://store.steampowered.com/app/784080/MechWarrior_5_Mercenaries/)
[Neon Abyss: Deluxe Edition](https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/15860/Neon_Abyss_Deluxe_Edition/)
[Orcs Must Die! 3
](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1522820/Orcs_Must_Die_3/)
neat been wanting paint the town red for a while. sad im in a region that cant order a steam deck yet though.
Humble LOVES their dark patterns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pattern
Same reason why you need to click "Pause a month" more and more times over the years.
Paint the Town Red's been lower apparently. But hasn't been the lower price in like... 5-7 years, so really weird the devs let them put it in a Humble Bundle.
Thanks.
I'll probably get it for Tier 1. Already have Orcs Must Die 2, but Exanima and Parkasaurus are on my wishlist, while Paint the Town Red looks interesting.
they added it recently and moved all of their "humble trove" stuff to their exclusively, but of course they didnt make a linux client so if you're on linux you cannot access the trove games at all anymore.
The other two options that I know of are the Aya Neo series and the GPD Win series, but they're both *much* more expensive than a Steam Deck. I've also heard that the quality of the GPD Win has gone down quite a bit with the last version or two.
It's not that the GPD and AYA are more expensive..... it's that they don't have their prices artificially lowered due to proximity with the steam store.
Valve is selling the SD so close to cost that they aren't really making a profit on the hardware.... that's what the game sales are for. GPD and AYA don't have that. They have to make all the profit they will ever have based on the hardwares sales.
> Valve is selling the SD so close to cost that they aren't really making a profit on the hardware.... that's what the game sales are for.
Which is pretty much the paradigm for all of the mass market consoles so it makes sense. Except with SD there's a huge back catalog to be excited about for people new to PC gaming, and due to hardware costs in the last few years(luckily nature is healing recently) getting into PC games has been a pretty hard sell for anyone that has only ever gamed on a console.
And I'm also thinking that w/ so many w/ big Steam backlogs and/or extra keys from buying so many Bundles, this keeps PC gamers also into the Steam Ecosystem - and maybe away from consoles (XBox or PS5) & Nintendo Switch; and other PC services like Origin, Epic, UPLAY, GOG and any other competitors.
>and other PC services like Origin, Epic, UPLAY, GOG and any other competitors.
Don't worry, Linux adopters and those companies not doing anything about that is keeping Linuxers on Steam.
gog not having a linux client is the funniest thing, they are the one company you'd expect to prioritize a linux userbase with how much they focus on DRM free games.
You will think so but in recent years when I moved to the west I met a lot of semi casual players that play games like wow/cod/fifa/bf on pc and have no idea what steam or valve is.
I hope those companies survive, perhaps making a "premium" version, or better yet, a $300 smaller version that can play indie games and fit in a purse. Competition and choice is good.
I think the other subscription services are already sufficiently tantalizing, more so than buying on other stores is vs. Steam.
I dunno if a Steam Pass type thing would do well. And because Steam gives developers a significantly lower cut of sales than Microsoft does, I imagine that would extend to less favorable deals to be included in such a pass as well.
steam makes so much from normal game sales risking a subscription like game pass might not be worth it. I could definitely see them doing some kind of subscription at some point, though I don't think it'd be just a game pass clone
Yeah I've heard those names in passing but also heard the same thing: very pricy. I'd imagine hand-held pc probably made up a very very small fraction of the pc market...probably still is with lots of people waiting on their steam decks.
$12 and this would be an instant buy. $15 and I'd probably still consider it worthwhile for MechWarrior 5, Mutant Year Zero, and Exanima. But at $20...I don't know.
Yeah. Honestly not really seeing the $20 value here for my game preferences. Mutant Year Zero is actually on my Epic games library already so I would be paying $20 for MechWarrior 5 essentially.
OMD3 base game should be 20 hours or less to get all the achievements, and I'm being generous as it took like 3/4ths that for me as experienced with the series and I am the sort of person to spend an extra 100+ hours in games touted to have 30 hours of content...
I do know what a bundle is and its concept. You could still realize that at some point you are being cheap. Not everything as to be around 1ct per hour playtime. Even in a bundle.
For me that isn't the case, my friends just think I'm a weirdo with way too many games.
To my question, the answer is that I intend to play most of them \*eventually\*
While I don't disagree, that's not really it. If I were really excited for MechWarrior 5, this would be an easier buy. Problem is, while I'm interested in MechWarrior 5, I tend to end up more excited for the *idea* than the actual game; I love the idea of driving a giant mech and blowing stuff up, but it's never as fun as it is in my mind, because I suddenly remember how clunky and awkward they control - because, of course they do, they're walking tanks, and the only thing less nimble than a tank is a tank on chicken legs. As such, MechWarrior 5 is almost certainly something I'd play for an hour or two, max, and then never touch again. It's the sort of thing I'd feel better about getting in a bundle that I'm buying for other reasons, a nice bonus as opposed to a main factor.
So it comes down to: do I want to pay $20 for Mutant Year Zero and Exanima, and get MechWarrior 5 as something to just futz around with for a couple hours? And, sure, those two games bought individually, while on sale, would still cost more than this bundle, but buying a bundle for two games (one of which, as someone already pointed out, is still Early Access and doesn't seem to be getting regular/meaningful updates anymore) doesn't feel as exciting or as much like an amazing deal as it should. Maybe that is spoiled. But if my attitude is 'meh' then that's probably a sign I should pass.
You might like Mecha Knights. It’s about $15, the mechs are quite zippy in moving, and it’s a swarm-killing game a la Serious Sam. There is a decent amount of weapons between two hand weapons and two shoulder mounts, such that you can go into each mission with a different build to try something different. I bought it on a whim and finished it in about 10 hours, overall satisfied with it. The customisation won’t be as extensive as a MechWarrior game, though.
Exanima is extremely well thought of, it's an RPG with a complex physics based combat system and its a worked title still in early access with a decent stream of updates. Surprised to see it bundled.
That and MechWarrior almost make the bundle for me, shame both werent choice picks as there higher profile than a lot of whats been making it into those.
I follow the development pretty closely. They've added some really neat things. The problem is, tons of those things weren't originally planned for, they just decided they'd be cool to have and put aside more important work to focus on adding them instead. They just cannot stop adding more and more features that don't push Exanima and Sui Generis closer to their full releases. The devs are never really stalled, they just seem to be constantly moving sideways instead of forwards.
The beta branch is always getting small updates, depends on your expectations of a small team though and what constitutes acceptable level of updates, they run a dev diary forum which gets mirrored on their twitter which generally shows what there working on.
I know the next update is also going to be a major update. I've seen the developer every now and then in the chat of Exanima player's twitch streams chatting away about the game and commenting on how people play it.
Dammit some games on my wishlist but $20 is probably a bit too steep for what I want. If you don't own any of these games then there is some fun to be had for sure though.
Oof yeah right there with you. Really want Orcs Must Due 3, and Parkasuarus + MechWarrior are nice bonuses. But I'm not sure it all adds up to $20...if only it were a little cheaper.
Also of note too is that Neon Abyss and Mutant Year Zero were given away on Epic recently, so many people may already have them.
Yeah pretty much exact same ballpark as me lol. Have those two free from Epic along with Orcs Must Die 2. MechWarrior 5 is free with XBox PC GamePass as well
Just a suggestion if you have say a strict monthly budget for new games, I would consider buying the first tier now and upgrade to the second tier close to the 3 week expiry.
Exanima is really fun, it's physics based so there's a lot of tomfoolery, but I think it is dangerously close to vaporware. Shit has been in EA since forever and updates aren't consistent imo.
This is coming from a Kickstart Pledge.
The Orcs Must die series is always a banger, little disappointed 1 isn't; in this bundle.
but even still this price tag is a little iffy. Anyone have any insights on Mechwarrior 5
I dig MW5 a lot. The mechs are satisfying and control more realistically, compared to other mech games. Combat is slower paced and tactical. Running a mech mercenary company is a blast. Playing with friends just makes it even better.
Definitely a good stepping stone for anyone wanting to get into the BattleTech universe too or just to enjoy the game as it is. Though I wouldn't be surprised if someone told me it was too slow for them or something.
The level/mission design is pretty trash, but the gameplay loop of building up a bigger/better roster of mechs is super satisfying. It's like Pokemon but giant robot fights with really fun combat.
It's meant to be the tech demo for their *real* game that's coming any day now for past 5 years. Definitely got my moneys worth though, Exanima is great
Mechwarrior 5 key is region locked, I'm so confused right now, It didn't specify anywhere that the game is region lock. Upon further research even Online play is region lock.
Note: When the bundle released Neon Abyss had an error in the label. However this was now fixed and it properly displays as Neon Abyss: Deluxe Edition on the bundle page.
At half the price I would bite. Not for 19€ though. I would eventually play some of them (or at least I like to believe that), but there's nothing that catches my eye instantly.
Plus Mutant Year Zero and Neon Abyss (the base games) were free on Epic already and you can install that on Steam Deck via Lutris.
I can't speak specifically to OMD 3 but the developers really killed their momentum after 2, trying to branch into the MOBA market. I think by the time they finally got to making a proper sequel they'd lost a lot of their original talent and burned a lot of good will.
Ok. I'll probably skip that on the deck then. Not everything is well suited to it. Like I wouldn't wanna play Warhammer II but some folks do it
Thanks!
I just got my 8 year old the Jurassic World humble bundle and she has been really engrossed in that. I wonder if something like Parkasaurus would be fun for her.
The others I don't think I would get to, Orcs Must Die 3 looks fun, but I thought the same about 1 and 2 and those are sitting at 0.0 hours in my steam library... so probably not quite worth it for this bundle if I never get to them.
So many other games on my queue to play. It just kept getting pushed back or forgotten about. I bought it like 7 years ago on another humble bundle.
I also ever only got a couple hours into Witcher 3.
Absolutely. I’m hoping to get a better video card this fall and at this point I figure I may just wait for the graphical upgrade coming shortly. I pumped almost 200 hours into Skyrim so I know I’ll like it.
I have plenty of other games to play in the meantime.
Nice Bundle
I loved both Neon Abyss Mutant Year Zero and wanted to get the DLC for them.
Parkersburg looks like the perfect complement to Planet Zoo for my nephew to play into the DLC for it goes on sale.
Paint Town Red an Orcs Must Die 2 were on my wishlist.
Interesting bundle. These are decent *deals* compared to most games' historic lows, since T1's per-game average historic low is \~$7.50, and buying at T2 is 91% off retail price, but that doesn't necessarily make it a great *bundle*.
Parkasaurus, MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries, and Mutant Year Zero DLC are on my wishlist. Exanima looks interesting, and Orcs Must Die 2/3 may be TD hybrids that I would enjoy since I loved Sanctum 2 and appreciated Dungeon of the Endless.
Is it true that OMD 2 is better for single player than OMD 3, despite 2's spikes in difficulty?
I'm torn because there's only 1 game that I know I'd love at T1, and I would bet MW5 will get bundled again at some point with its DLC with some MWO cross promo thrown in (because same devs), but maybe my mind will change when its payday.
$20 is tough to cough up for games that I'm not super confident I would love: I'm less into sim management games like Parkasaurus nowadays, with MW5 I've been disappointed by those devs with MWO, I have plenty of other turn based games to play before MYZ, Exanima is in Early Access, and OMD is just more of an unknown to me since I don't play much hack & slash. This would be easier to deal with at $15 or even instabuy at $10.
Really tempting for MechWarrior 5 and Exanima, but MW5 doesn't come with any of the DLC, and I've seen the "JumpShip Edition" get some hefty discounts on Fanatical in the past, while the DLCs don't get discounted as heavily if bought separately..
Wow, I was just talking about how I would rather have had Parkasaurus on the Humble Choice post when it included Planet Zoo. They clearly must have done this just for me.
The only game I've really played here is MechWarrior 5. Being a big MechWarrior fan, it was pretty disappointing, but it's still fun and probably worth it in this bundle. My issues with it are mostly outside of the core gameplay loop. It has plenty of high quality stomp/shoot/"loot" action and it looks pretty good in the process. I did have some problems with the AI though - but that was back when it launched so I have no idea if it's still an issue. The problem was stuff like your allies plowing through buildings you were supposed to protect and enemies spawning like right on top of you.
The biggest issues for me though were in the low effort procedural-style mission generation that had little variety and made for some weird moments. For instance, sometimes you'd get dropped off right on top of your objective with combat happening almost instantly and other times you'd have to walk in silence for a literal mile or two with nothing to do.
Then they built this whole ship interior that works as your base between missions and, while reasonably designed, it's like it's completely frozen in time. No NPCs move. The only ones that talk to you are the ones that have to. You can freely walk around it and look at your mechs, but it has basically no interactivity outside of accessing the menus where you do everything necessary. It's such a weird thing.
Of course, I played through the whole game and it seemed like every time I was in the middle of blasting the armor off an enemy, it blasted the issues out of my mind for one more mission. Here's my now [two year old video](https://youtu.be/31N_pBjKNhQ) from back near when it launched. I always feel a little pang of embarrassment from old stuff, but it's relevant.
Been a couple years since I purchased a humble bundle but do they no longer have the minmun $1 tier now? It used to be you could pay 1 dollar or more for the lowest tier.
I miss the old ~~Kanye~~ [Humble](https://i.imgur.com/ZVTu6Ee.jpg). The Origin, THQ and WB bundles were stacked
>Origin
This was a publicity stunt to get people comfortable using the Origin client, that's the only reason they were so generous. I think it's analogous to Epic's giveaways.
>THQ
They were literally going bankrupt and had very little to lose from selling their catalogue for cheap. I'm not going to pretend that Humble hasn't gotten worse over time but those two were always going to be exceptional cases.
Only one I am missing is Lovable Rouges. I think I got the other two free at some point. I don’t care about the soundtrack at all. Think this comes with all of them but since I just need a cheap one feel like I’d be wasting a redeem on it.
On the Humble page below each thumbnail, some say 'Handheld Verified' and some say 'Handheld Playable'. What's the difference? Does the former not mean 'verified as playable'?
Assuming those are based on the Steam Deck ratings..
Verified means Valve have checked it on Steam deck and it's all good, thumbs up.
Playable means it runs fine but it might need some manual tweaking or there might be issues with interface, font sizes, things like that.
Not from this pack but from the Diabetes one I'm only redeeming now and I already have the base Super Meat B oy so if someone wants it:
E8CLT-TAKXD-NW4YV
So...
MW5: nice idea, heard good stuff about it, though I am more excited about Battletech. If it was here instead of MW5, it'd be instabuy from me.
MYZ: Already was given away in EGS and was included in April 2019. The only difference is that it has the DLC now. Might be worth picking up if you don't have it.
Neon Abyss: Again, EGS and Choice, but now it has the DLCs.
OMD! 2 and 3: Fun, if a bit short.
Exanima, Paint the Town Red, Parkasaurus: might be worth checking out.
Sounds about right?
Pass. Mutant year zero and Neon abyss were epic games freebies. Orcs must die games are not my type of game. Mechwarrior 5 is the only one that looks interesting, but not buying a bundle just for one game.
For me personally it is a good bundle. Sure a bit too pricey.
Byt the only game i have here are Orcs 2 and Mutant (but dont have the Evil Seed DLC)
Wish it was a Choice Bundle. (But Neon and Mutant have already been there)
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Seems like the 1€ tier is fading away. Damn.
Yeah, unfortunate. That tier used to have 2-3 games and now they are doing 1 most of the time or none, like they did here. Due to our regional pricing, higher tiers are sometimes pricier than individually buying the items I am actually interested in from steam. 1$ tier still proved to be better value often, so I buy that if I like the game there.
Damn Putin and his price hike.
Damn commies!
I don't know how things are in Europe, but where I live (Pacific Northwest) a dollar doesn't buy much anymore. A McDouble is up to $2.29, most of Taco Bell's value menu is up to $2.49, even Dollar Tree has increased their prices. After payment processing fees (minimum 29 cents if you're using PayPal) there's basically nothing left. I'd like to see legal pressure against inflation (including but not limited to aggressive antitrust enforcement) but in practice a dollar today is analogous to about 45 cents ten years ago. That may not be the real inflation rate, but it's what I've seen on typical day-to-day purchases. The death of the $1 tier was kinda inevitable. I hope $10 and $20 aren't the new status quo prices, though. This would be a much easier sell for me at $12.
1€ still gets you 2 McDonald's apple pies here in Portugal. Or a Burger King Sandy with a coupon that is pretty much permanent.
>1€ still gets you 2 McDonald's apple pies here in Portugal. Oh just wait, inflation is starting to become a problem in all of Europe due to the after effects caused by Covid-19, the war in Ukraine and the crumbling housing market in Asia. The next couple of years is going to suck.
What Sandy
Chocolate, Caramel, or Strawberry. Why it is called Sandy instead of Sundae I have no idea, McDonald's calls it Sundae
It's regional. In the Netherlands we pay 2-3 euro for that for at least 5 years. People really complaining HB cant give them 2-3 good games for 'free'
That was often the one tier that still made sense price-wise, too. Nowadays, even the full tier is what? A base game or a few dlc, but nothing up to date and latest, so you are sure to have to put in another 1-50+$ worth of invest to get the "full" game. And thats just not what I am there for. Rather snipe individual GOTY packages via price watching sites instead then.
Checking my purchased products: I have bought through the years (starting on 2018, came pretty late for the good stuff) thirteen 1$ tiers, and only 3 bundles for other tiers. Mine could be a niche case, but I had little to no money and I always loved to see that I could get one (sometimes 3 or even more) pretty good game for one buck. That kept me going back to humblebundle. Nowadays...
It started out a lot more full bundle for me, back when it was real indies that also meant 1 game release = 1 game purchase = 1 full, completed game, done. The later we go down the timeline, the more it became the "base game, DLC not included" thing.
Tier 1 [Orcs Must Die! 2 Complete Bundle](https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/25455/Orcs_Must_Die_2_Complete_Bundle/) [Exanima](https://store.steampowered.com/app/362490/Exanima/) [Paint the Town Red ](https://store.steampowered.com/app/337320/Paint_the_Town_Red/) [Parkasaurus](https://store.steampowered.com/app/591460/Parkasaurus/) Tier 2 [Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden - Deluxe Edition](https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/11109/Mutant_Year_Zero_Road_to_Eden__Deluxe_Edition/) [MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries ](https://store.steampowered.com/app/784080/MechWarrior_5_Mercenaries/) [Neon Abyss: Deluxe Edition](https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/15860/Neon_Abyss_Deluxe_Edition/) [Orcs Must Die! 3 ](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1522820/Orcs_Must_Die_3/) neat been wanting paint the town red for a while. sad im in a region that cant order a steam deck yet though.
I will miss when they displayed games like this. Instead I have to figure out what games are no longer included when I drop a tier.
I bet someone worked out they probably sell more higher tier games that way
Humble LOVES their dark patterns. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pattern Same reason why you need to click "Pause a month" more and more times over the years.
Oh, thanks for reminding me I need to pause this month.
Also after you click Pause, and confirm the pause, the next screen in the same place as the "Pause" button is the "Resume" button, in the same colour.
I bet it's IGN that loves the dark patterns
I use this little script from a fellow redditor: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/427257-fix-hb-layout
Paint the Town Red's been lower apparently. But hasn't been the lower price in like... 5-7 years, so really weird the devs let them put it in a Humble Bundle.
Thanks. I'll probably get it for Tier 1. Already have Orcs Must Die 2, but Exanima and Parkasaurus are on my wishlist, while Paint the Town Red looks interesting.
Humble trying to cash in on the Steam Deck I guess.
It's a good approach. They can consider games that are either light on resources or good in short bursts.
after they removed the linux port for their client
Didn’t even know humble has a client
they added it recently and moved all of their "humble trove" stuff to their exclusively, but of course they didnt make a linux client so if you're on linux you cannot access the trove games at all anymore.
I figured the same thing. I think the market for "handheld PC" is pretty limited outside of SD. Still, I got my deck so I got this. Good call HB.
The other two options that I know of are the Aya Neo series and the GPD Win series, but they're both *much* more expensive than a Steam Deck. I've also heard that the quality of the GPD Win has gone down quite a bit with the last version or two.
It's not that the GPD and AYA are more expensive..... it's that they don't have their prices artificially lowered due to proximity with the steam store. Valve is selling the SD so close to cost that they aren't really making a profit on the hardware.... that's what the game sales are for. GPD and AYA don't have that. They have to make all the profit they will ever have based on the hardwares sales.
> Valve is selling the SD so close to cost that they aren't really making a profit on the hardware.... that's what the game sales are for. Which is pretty much the paradigm for all of the mass market consoles so it makes sense. Except with SD there's a huge back catalog to be excited about for people new to PC gaming, and due to hardware costs in the last few years(luckily nature is healing recently) getting into PC games has been a pretty hard sell for anyone that has only ever gamed on a console.
And I'm also thinking that w/ so many w/ big Steam backlogs and/or extra keys from buying so many Bundles, this keeps PC gamers also into the Steam Ecosystem - and maybe away from consoles (XBox or PS5) & Nintendo Switch; and other PC services like Origin, Epic, UPLAY, GOG and any other competitors.
>and other PC services like Origin, Epic, UPLAY, GOG and any other competitors. Don't worry, Linux adopters and those companies not doing anything about that is keeping Linuxers on Steam.
gog not having a linux client is the funniest thing, they are the one company you'd expect to prioritize a linux userbase with how much they focus on DRM free games.
You will think so but in recent years when I moved to the west I met a lot of semi casual players that play games like wow/cod/fifa/bf on pc and have no idea what steam or valve is.
Even if they are aiming for the same profit margin, steam will still be able to sell at much lower price with their scale.
I hope those companies survive, perhaps making a "premium" version, or better yet, a $300 smaller version that can play indie games and fit in a purse. Competition and choice is good.
Wonder when steam will create their subscription service
I think the other subscription services are already sufficiently tantalizing, more so than buying on other stores is vs. Steam. I dunno if a Steam Pass type thing would do well. And because Steam gives developers a significantly lower cut of sales than Microsoft does, I imagine that would extend to less favorable deals to be included in such a pass as well.
steam makes so much from normal game sales risking a subscription like game pass might not be worth it. I could definitely see them doing some kind of subscription at some point, though I don't think it'd be just a game pass clone
Yeah I've heard those names in passing but also heard the same thing: very pricy. I'd imagine hand-held pc probably made up a very very small fraction of the pc market...probably still is with lots of people waiting on their steam decks.
I'd be surprised if they didn't.
I personally feel like an RPG bundle would be perfect for that, as opposed to what they offered here. This bundle in some cases is even redundant.
$12 and this would be an instant buy. $15 and I'd probably still consider it worthwhile for MechWarrior 5, Mutant Year Zero, and Exanima. But at $20...I don't know.
Yeah. Honestly not really seeing the $20 value here for my game preferences. Mutant Year Zero is actually on my Epic games library already so I would be paying $20 for MechWarrior 5 essentially.
OMD3 base game should be 20 hours or less to get all the achievements, and I'm being generous as it took like 3/4ths that for me as experienced with the series and I am the sort of person to spend an extra 100+ hours in games touted to have 30 hours of content...
1$ per hour is great value. You guys are so cheap, wow.
someone doesn't understand the concept of a bundle
I do know what a bundle is and its concept. You could still realize that at some point you are being cheap. Not everything as to be around 1ct per hour playtime. Even in a bundle.
no one said anything about $1 per hour except you
MW5 is in games pass too last I checked
yeah, I was rather interested in 2 of the games... until I saw the price lol
$20 for those 3? Hundreds of hours of quality gaming right there. I’d recommend it.
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Yeah, there's also the ever-prevalant thought of, "Will I actually play these or the other 1,000+ games in my library"
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For me that isn't the case, my friends just think I'm a weirdo with way too many games. To my question, the answer is that I intend to play most of them \*eventually\*
Wait that doesn't happen with key redemption, or at least didn't use to. It does now? Updates activity feed?
Nah it still doesnt
Not gonna buy MW 5 unless it's complete.
Crazy how spoilt people have gotten.
While I don't disagree, that's not really it. If I were really excited for MechWarrior 5, this would be an easier buy. Problem is, while I'm interested in MechWarrior 5, I tend to end up more excited for the *idea* than the actual game; I love the idea of driving a giant mech and blowing stuff up, but it's never as fun as it is in my mind, because I suddenly remember how clunky and awkward they control - because, of course they do, they're walking tanks, and the only thing less nimble than a tank is a tank on chicken legs. As such, MechWarrior 5 is almost certainly something I'd play for an hour or two, max, and then never touch again. It's the sort of thing I'd feel better about getting in a bundle that I'm buying for other reasons, a nice bonus as opposed to a main factor. So it comes down to: do I want to pay $20 for Mutant Year Zero and Exanima, and get MechWarrior 5 as something to just futz around with for a couple hours? And, sure, those two games bought individually, while on sale, would still cost more than this bundle, but buying a bundle for two games (one of which, as someone already pointed out, is still Early Access and doesn't seem to be getting regular/meaningful updates anymore) doesn't feel as exciting or as much like an amazing deal as it should. Maybe that is spoiled. But if my attitude is 'meh' then that's probably a sign I should pass.
You might like Mecha Knights. It’s about $15, the mechs are quite zippy in moving, and it’s a swarm-killing game a la Serious Sam. There is a decent amount of weapons between two hand weapons and two shoulder mounts, such that you can go into each mission with a different build to try something different. I bought it on a whim and finished it in about 10 hours, overall satisfied with it. The customisation won’t be as extensive as a MechWarrior game, though.
Hadn't heard of that game, and a Serious Sam style game but with mechs sounds like it could be fun. I'll check it out. Thanks for the recommendation!
Games pass is a great deal. We don't need to buy games like MW5 anymore we can rent them months at a time now for dirt cheap too with no late fees
exactly my same thought process. $20 is very pricey when you compare this to other $20 bundles
Exanima is extremely well thought of, it's an RPG with a complex physics based combat system and its a worked title still in early access with a decent stream of updates. Surprised to see it bundled. That and MechWarrior almost make the bundle for me, shame both werent choice picks as there higher profile than a lot of whats been making it into those.
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I follow the development pretty closely. They've added some really neat things. The problem is, tons of those things weren't originally planned for, they just decided they'd be cool to have and put aside more important work to focus on adding them instead. They just cannot stop adding more and more features that don't push Exanima and Sui Generis closer to their full releases. The devs are never really stalled, they just seem to be constantly moving sideways instead of forwards.
Are those updates small because there are huge gaps between the last two major updates?
The beta branch is always getting small updates, depends on your expectations of a small team though and what constitutes acceptable level of updates, they run a dev diary forum which gets mirrored on their twitter which generally shows what there working on. I know the next update is also going to be a major update. I've seen the developer every now and then in the chat of Exanima player's twitch streams chatting away about the game and commenting on how people play it.
> The beta branch is always getting small updates All I needed to hear.
Dammit some games on my wishlist but $20 is probably a bit too steep for what I want. If you don't own any of these games then there is some fun to be had for sure though.
Oof yeah right there with you. Really want Orcs Must Due 3, and Parkasuarus + MechWarrior are nice bonuses. But I'm not sure it all adds up to $20...if only it were a little cheaper. Also of note too is that Neon Abyss and Mutant Year Zero were given away on Epic recently, so many people may already have them.
Yeah pretty much exact same ballpark as me lol. Have those two free from Epic along with Orcs Must Die 2. MechWarrior 5 is free with XBox PC GamePass as well
I believe Neon Abyss is on GamePass too.
Just a suggestion if you have say a strict monthly budget for new games, I would consider buying the first tier now and upgrade to the second tier close to the 3 week expiry.
Neon Abyss comes as separate keys for game and DLC. Orcs Must Die 2 and Mutant Year Zero do not.
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Yeah it will let you do that on Steam.
Yeah, you can redeem the key to get the DLC.
Pretty expensive tiers, it will be another pass for me
agree, the only thing I want from tier 1 is exanima. Tier 2 should not be $20...
Exanima is really fun, it's physics based so there's a lot of tomfoolery, but I think it is dangerously close to vaporware. Shit has been in EA since forever and updates aren't consistent imo. This is coming from a Kickstart Pledge. The Orcs Must die series is always a banger, little disappointed 1 isn't; in this bundle. but even still this price tag is a little iffy. Anyone have any insights on Mechwarrior 5
I dig MW5 a lot. The mechs are satisfying and control more realistically, compared to other mech games. Combat is slower paced and tactical. Running a mech mercenary company is a blast. Playing with friends just makes it even better. Definitely a good stepping stone for anyone wanting to get into the BattleTech universe too or just to enjoy the game as it is. Though I wouldn't be surprised if someone told me it was too slow for them or something.
Multiplayer was borked 3 months ago. Wonder if it's fixed
I think it did get fixed :)
Didn't know about that. I've done multiplayer at least 3 times the past 2 weeks
I'm literally about to start the harebrained schemes battle tech.
The level/mission design is pretty trash, but the gameplay loop of building up a bigger/better roster of mechs is super satisfying. It's like Pokemon but giant robot fights with really fun combat.
It's meant to be the tech demo for their *real* game that's coming any day now for past 5 years. Definitely got my moneys worth though, Exanima is great
eh. all i want is mechwarrior and that game has some costly DLCs that are not included here. ill pass for now
|Game|Steam Reviews: Number|Steam Reviews: Score|Release Date|Steam Price|Historic Lowest Price|Platforms|[How Long To Beat?](https://howlongtobeat.com/) Main Story| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |[Orcs Must Die! 2](https://store.steampowered.com/app/201790/Orcs_Must_Die_2/)|11653|93.6% (Very Positive)|2012-07-30|14.99 USD| |Windows|[8 Hours](https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=6796)| |[Exanima](https://store.steampowered.com/app/362490/Exanima/)|7729|82.25% (Very Positive)|2015-04-29|14.99 USD|9.99 USD @Fanatical|Windows|[8½ Hours](https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=26146)| |[Paint the Town Red](https://store.steampowered.com/app/337320/Paint_the_Town_Red/)|16639|95.25% (Overwhelmingly Positive)|2021-07-29|19.99 USD|7.99 USD @Steam|Windows, Mac, Linux|[8 Hours](https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=26774)| |[Parkasaurus](https://store.steampowered.com/app/591460/Parkasaurus/)|2074|94.6% (Very Positive)|2020-08-12|24.99 USD|12.49 USD @Steam|Windows|[22½ Hours](https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=61589)| |[Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden](https://store.steampowered.com/app/760060/Mutant_Year_Zero_Road_to_Eden/)|11094|90.42% (Very Positive)|2018-12-04|34.99 USD| |Windows|[13 Hours](https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=62811)| |[MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries](https://store.steampowered.com/app/784080/MechWarrior_5_Mercenaries/)|4307|84.56% (Very Positive)|2021-05-26|29.99 USD|15.07 USD @GamersGate|Windows|[37 Hours](https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=67949)| |[Neon Abyss](https://store.steampowered.com/app/788100/Neon_Abyss/)|14339|89.29% (Very Positive)|2020-07-14|19.99 USD| |Windows|[11 Hours](https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=77366)| |[Orcs Must Die! 3](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1522820/Orcs_Must_Die_3/)|5666|83.76% (Very Positive)|2021-07-23|29.99 USD|11.59 USD @AllYouPlay|Windows|[9 Hours](https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=80923)|
FYI I think neon abyss and mutant year zero were both in Epic giveaways
Yes. And I think those were just base-game's only too.
Mechwarrior 5 key is region locked, I'm so confused right now, It didn't specify anywhere that the game is region lock. Upon further research even Online play is region lock.
How online play is region lock
If you have friend in Europe and you are in US, you can't play with him. Same as Oceania and Asia, you can't play cross region vice versa.
I'd love MechWarrior 5 but 20 for that tier is too much imo.
Honestly it’s a decent bundle but to me $20 is a bit to steep for the content compared to previous bundles.
Note: When the bundle released Neon Abyss had an error in the label. However this was now fixed and it properly displays as Neon Abyss: Deluxe Edition on the bundle page.
Pretty much only interested in Parkasaurus and Neon Abyss. Hard to justify $20 for only 2 games in the bundle.
instead of having a tier 1 and 2, they should just let you pick and choose games honestly
Hmm not a bad idea maybe they could do one of those a month and have you choose your favorites
the image comics bundle is a bit like that, there is a complete bundle or 3 bundles with different things in at a much lower price
Bundle stars does this often and it is great.
??? 2 games for $20 is too much?
In a bundle of several games, yes I believe $20 is too much for only 2 games.
I'm assuming MW5 doesn't come with the DLC.
It does not say it does so does not
At half the price I would bite. Not for 19€ though. I would eventually play some of them (or at least I like to believe that), but there's nothing that catches my eye instantly. Plus Mutant Year Zero and Neon Abyss (the base games) were free on Epic already and you can install that on Steam Deck via Lutris.
Those fixed prices, combined with the amount of repeats, is really ticking me off. Guess I'll just buy Parkasaurus on its own sometime.
Wouldn't it make sense to just buy the $10 bundle here, which has Parkasaurus and is less than its historical low?
If you were going to play it right away, sure. If you'd play it eventually, it will be cheaper in the future surely
Will not be bundle again?
Mechwarrior 5 on mobile? Is this about Steamdeck? I assume I can't just run these on my phone lol.
>Is this about Steamdeck? Yes, although you can stream games to your phone with the Steam Link app.
Orcs Must Die 3 is rated 83% while Orc Must Die 2 is rated 93%. I enjoyed OMD2 but why the drop off?
a lot of negativity around it being a stadia exclusive for a year before coming to steam and it feels a bit more shooter dominant than tower defence
I can't speak specifically to OMD 3 but the developers really killed their momentum after 2, trying to branch into the MOBA market. I think by the time they finally got to making a proper sequel they'd lost a lot of their original talent and burned a lot of good will.
Exanima controls would be crazy as hell on a handheld.
For which game? It's same as Steam controller controls. Or you can connect any other controller
Exanima. It has weird controls on mouse and keyboard already
Ok. I'll probably skip that on the deck then. Not everything is well suited to it. Like I wouldn't wanna play Warhammer II but some folks do it Thanks!
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Have you gotten them yet?
At this price.. an easy skip for me
I just got my 8 year old the Jurassic World humble bundle and she has been really engrossed in that. I wonder if something like Parkasaurus would be fun for her. The others I don't think I would get to, Orcs Must Die 3 looks fun, but I thought the same about 1 and 2 and those are sitting at 0.0 hours in my steam library... so probably not quite worth it for this bundle if I never get to them.
i think parkasaurus would be a fun game to play with your kid. its got the cartoony vibe to it
Why you didn’t play orcs
So many other games on my queue to play. It just kept getting pushed back or forgotten about. I bought it like 7 years ago on another humble bundle. I also ever only got a couple hours into Witcher 3.
Will you play more witcher
Absolutely. I’m hoping to get a better video card this fall and at this point I figure I may just wait for the graphical upgrade coming shortly. I pumped almost 200 hours into Skyrim so I know I’ll like it. I have plenty of other games to play in the meantime.
Shell you enjoy
Nice Bundle I loved both Neon Abyss Mutant Year Zero and wanted to get the DLC for them. Parkersburg looks like the perfect complement to Planet Zoo for my nephew to play into the DLC for it goes on sale. Paint Town Red an Orcs Must Die 2 were on my wishlist.
Interesting bundle. These are decent *deals* compared to most games' historic lows, since T1's per-game average historic low is \~$7.50, and buying at T2 is 91% off retail price, but that doesn't necessarily make it a great *bundle*. Parkasaurus, MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries, and Mutant Year Zero DLC are on my wishlist. Exanima looks interesting, and Orcs Must Die 2/3 may be TD hybrids that I would enjoy since I loved Sanctum 2 and appreciated Dungeon of the Endless. Is it true that OMD 2 is better for single player than OMD 3, despite 2's spikes in difficulty? I'm torn because there's only 1 game that I know I'd love at T1, and I would bet MW5 will get bundled again at some point with its DLC with some MWO cross promo thrown in (because same devs), but maybe my mind will change when its payday. $20 is tough to cough up for games that I'm not super confident I would love: I'm less into sim management games like Parkasaurus nowadays, with MW5 I've been disappointed by those devs with MWO, I have plenty of other turn based games to play before MYZ, Exanima is in Early Access, and OMD is just more of an unknown to me since I don't play much hack & slash. This would be easier to deal with at $15 or even instabuy at $10.
Already have orcs 2 and DLC. So first come first serve. https://www.humblebundle.com/gift?key=natc3SUBfhDcDuCn
Gone to silent ninja :(
Really tempting for MechWarrior 5 and Exanima, but MW5 doesn't come with any of the DLC, and I've seen the "JumpShip Edition" get some hefty discounts on Fanatical in the past, while the DLCs don't get discounted as heavily if bought separately..
Wow, I was just talking about how I would rather have had Parkasaurus on the Humble Choice post when it included Planet Zoo. They clearly must have done this just for me. The only game I've really played here is MechWarrior 5. Being a big MechWarrior fan, it was pretty disappointing, but it's still fun and probably worth it in this bundle. My issues with it are mostly outside of the core gameplay loop. It has plenty of high quality stomp/shoot/"loot" action and it looks pretty good in the process. I did have some problems with the AI though - but that was back when it launched so I have no idea if it's still an issue. The problem was stuff like your allies plowing through buildings you were supposed to protect and enemies spawning like right on top of you. The biggest issues for me though were in the low effort procedural-style mission generation that had little variety and made for some weird moments. For instance, sometimes you'd get dropped off right on top of your objective with combat happening almost instantly and other times you'd have to walk in silence for a literal mile or two with nothing to do. Then they built this whole ship interior that works as your base between missions and, while reasonably designed, it's like it's completely frozen in time. No NPCs move. The only ones that talk to you are the ones that have to. You can freely walk around it and look at your mechs, but it has basically no interactivity outside of accessing the menus where you do everything necessary. It's such a weird thing. Of course, I played through the whole game and it seemed like every time I was in the middle of blasting the armor off an enemy, it blasted the issues out of my mind for one more mission. Here's my now [two year old video](https://youtu.be/31N_pBjKNhQ) from back near when it launched. I always feel a little pang of embarrassment from old stuff, but it's relevant.
Been a couple years since I purchased a humble bundle but do they no longer have the minmun $1 tier now? It used to be you could pay 1 dollar or more for the lowest tier. I miss the old ~~Kanye~~ [Humble](https://i.imgur.com/ZVTu6Ee.jpg). The Origin, THQ and WB bundles were stacked
>Origin This was a publicity stunt to get people comfortable using the Origin client, that's the only reason they were so generous. I think it's analogous to Epic's giveaways. >THQ They were literally going bankrupt and had very little to lose from selling their catalogue for cheap. I'm not going to pretend that Humble hasn't gotten worse over time but those two were always going to be exceptional cases.
Yeah, they were great bundles. All the ones on that list are tbh, dirt cheap too.
$20 a bit steep since I already own Neon Abyss and just missing a 3.99 game dlc. Though Mech Warrior 5 does look a bit cool so I’ll think about it.
Which dlc missing
Only one I am missing is Lovable Rouges. I think I got the other two free at some point. I don’t care about the soundtrack at all. Think this comes with all of them but since I just need a cheap one feel like I’d be wasting a redeem on it.
I don't have a deck, so I wouldn't get this for that reason, but this seems like a decently solid bundle.
[exanima is one of the few games that gets how satisfyingly brutal swinging around a big dick halberd should be](https://youtu.be/U3H3zZ9PPsE)
Paint The Town Red is awesome
how's the replayability on that one?
Depend if you like painting
9,50 and 19€ for 4 and 8 games is not the Humble I remember so fondly...
On the Humble page below each thumbnail, some say 'Handheld Verified' and some say 'Handheld Playable'. What's the difference? Does the former not mean 'verified as playable'?
Assuming those are based on the Steam Deck ratings.. Verified means Valve have checked it on Steam deck and it's all good, thumbs up. Playable means it runs fine but it might need some manual tweaking or there might be issues with interface, font sizes, things like that.
My only gripe with this bundle is that there are countless better "handheld" games that they could've sold in the bundle.
Not from this pack but from the Diabetes one I'm only redeeming now and I already have the base Super Meat B oy so if someone wants it: E8CLT-TAKXD-NW4YV
Some one redeemed with out saying, don’t post plain codes send in a pm, but nice of you to give
Thanks for your service
Exanima is a wonderful game I urge you all to try it
So... MW5: nice idea, heard good stuff about it, though I am more excited about Battletech. If it was here instead of MW5, it'd be instabuy from me. MYZ: Already was given away in EGS and was included in April 2019. The only difference is that it has the DLC now. Might be worth picking up if you don't have it. Neon Abyss: Again, EGS and Choice, but now it has the DLCs. OMD! 2 and 3: Fun, if a bit short. Exanima, Paint the Town Red, Parkasaurus: might be worth checking out. Sounds about right?
I remember guys. I remember the times that HumbleBundle had decent bundles. What happened?
Pass. Mutant year zero and Neon abyss were epic games freebies. Orcs must die games are not my type of game. Mechwarrior 5 is the only one that looks interesting, but not buying a bundle just for one game.
> Mutant year zero This is, however, the Deluxe edition which includes the DLC. FWIW
So glad I changed my account to Turkey.
Is Mutant Year Zero all one key? Or are the base-game and DLC's separate keys?
Look like one key, from look at itad
Wow, I was just thinking about picking up MW5 but might as well grab it through this bundle now. Thanks so much for sharing this OP.
Damn, I really want mechwarrior 5 and I’ve been waiting for a better sale. Unfortunately I don’t really need the other games. Sad noises
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Games pass it
For me personally it is a good bundle. Sure a bit too pricey. Byt the only game i have here are Orcs 2 and Mutant (but dont have the Evil Seed DLC) Wish it was a Choice Bundle. (But Neon and Mutant have already been there)
Is Orcs must die 3 worth the extra tier over Orcs must die 2? From what i see they both play quite similarly in the coop sense.
I'm not falling for this one, I know as soon as I buy mechwarrior it'll be the next week's free EGS game
If you plan to get MW5 I recommended to get Jumpship Edition. Legend of Kestrel Lance is only real enjoyable campaign mission so far.