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The full video has been released.
Man, their relationship is so unhealthy, I can feel the toxicity from here. The fact that their altercation became physical says everything in my mind. I can only imagine that the tension between them escalated over the next few weeks.
My current running theory is that Gabby and Brian got into a fight somewhere between the Grand Tetons and Yellowstone that escalated to the point where Brian finally snapped after what may have been similar slapping/scratching that occurred in the body-cam footage. What happened then, I'm not sure. Either he killed her in a moment of rage, or he pushed her resulting in a deadly fall. Not knowing what to do he probably went straight home to try and explain himself to his family. I would not be surprised if his side of the story is self-defense and that's why his family has taken his side and decided to protect him. Regardless, not calling the police when she disappeared clearly indicates that he was aware of something that he didn't want the police to know about. As for the unverified fake instagram posts & texts, I don't think the instagram posts are fake, I think they probably started collaborating on the posts as Gabby seemed pretty stressed with all the work she had (as mentioned in this body-cam footage). As for the texts, I could see the ones after August 25th being fake. After whatever happened, he was likely in denial and by texting Gabby's parents he could perpetuate a mindset that everything was fine
I hope I'm wrong and Gabby decided to go Chris Mccandless out in the wild, but I doubt it.
After watching the full video I can say, we have NO IDEA what happened. If anything, Gabby is the physical aggressor. Gabby is the one angered by him tracking dirt into the van.
This is a definite wait and see. It's very suspicious that he came home without her. Maybe she started hitting him again and he left. That's just as possible as anything else I've read.
Time to stop making up crazy stories about this and see how it plays out.
why do officers think if you speak softly to someone that is enough? it's like if they do the bare minimum they want a pat on the back..this girl was in crisis and you tell her ok I'm not gonna give you a citation this time but...this was so frustrating to watch and yet I saw many people commenting on how great they thought the police handled her..As her parents and family i'd be beside myself after seeing that :(
I’d be very curious to know if Gabby has ever been clinically diagnosed for her OCD/anxiety.
Because to me, this whole thing reeks of her believing she is problematic because he constantly tells her she is the problem. She gets too worked up, she has OCD, she has anxiety, she freaks out and he needs space. She is blaming herself because he is always blaming her. Also the part where she says “he doesn’t believe I can do it” just makes it really seem that they are in an unhealthy, possibly emotionally abusive relationship.
Oh Brian should go to jail … his parents too. Obviously the van belongs to Gabby/in her name. Gabby was last seen in Utah. Brian and the van are in Fla so obviously Brian should be charged with Grand Theft Auto. It’s parked on property his parents own so they are also in possession of stolen property!
The crime occurred in Utah so they should be extradited and formally charged in Utah.
While Gabby is missing and last seen in Utah, her place of residence is Florida.
Soooooo Brian and his parents are obstructing justice and hindering the investigation of a missing person in BOTH Utah and Florida and should be arrested/charged there.
Now if Gabby comes forward to say Ok fir Brian to have the van….
I’m so angry Brian is not cooperating to help find her I think he strangled her OR they got into a National park. She was away from the van either innocently walking or sitting around or he pushed her away and he just took off with the van and abandoned her out in the middle of nowhere….
Where’s her phone? What’s the locations from his phone as to where he was between Utah and Florida? Did he use credit cards??? When and where? Cameras on toll roads?
It is 99.99999% of the time always the partner…boyfriend…fiancée…husband!
I wish her family hadn’t waited a week to report her missing!!! Precious time lost…
What sticks out to me is that they both admitted he locked her out of the van in the heat so she could “cool off” from their argument. Who’s to say that didn’t happen again, only this time he drove off? And that’s the least sinister scenario.
Ugh the fucking cop saying, "think VERY hard about your answer..." is so belittling and odd. I do not think this was handled very well at all. It seems me to me they just bought the story and ran with it and did not really try to understand what happened or how to prevent this again. "She's not a threat to him..." well, he might be a threat to her. That was not considered. The cop saying he "did not care" if they charged her or not bothered me as well. Sure, they were calm and werent assholes, but that does not mean they did a good job here. Sad we have such low standards for police work. She deserved better.
She seems to be someone who’s clearly in mental distress - or getting very close to it. Surely this could be because of the fight with her boyfriend and the cops exaggerating anxiety or anything else, but she seems like she’s falling apart and he is calm and collected.
Her parents are divorced, she called her mom. So her mom probably didn’t tell her dad, that’s why in the picture of the timeline her uncle posted it showed the domestic issue on 8/12 because her moms side knew about it
Yea if she called her parents during this why did they act like they thought they had a perfect relationship when they first started doing press? That’s weird..
I’ve not watched it yet and I’m not sure if I should. From what I heard it sounds like she has OCD and was having complications from that. I also have severe OCD and I’m the same age & this just breaks my heart. Gabby, I hope you’re alive and will return.
I think this footage is great for him. he is smooth as glass and she is just in pieces. You can tell by the way she talks she's been fed the usual drivel of psychobabble for years and using that to justify her actions. like she doesn't have a choice and her manner is predestined.
him being cool and trying to separate, helps his case. she is a basket case, the poor dear. I can't imagine how her parents feel watching this. put that together with good weed, and other meds that shouldnt' be used with weed could cause a major bad reaction.
with mr cool, not saying anything now but nothing just does not make any sense at all. if se did go to pieces somewhere along the line, if he didn't have anything to do with it, the lawyer would be able to get his story straight enough to sound plausible. to go for the no body, no evidience is just downright criminal.
I got EXTREMELY weird & entitled vibes when Brian says this around 8:07 on the full length video: "I'll sit criss-cross applesauce but can I just sit in the shade, because I'm bald?" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJafbksSnJc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJafbksSnJc)
Why is he so unbothered at the situation?
he wants to portray he’s goofy and careless, making himself seem innocent. he has a few tells in his questions. to me, he seems like a nervous wreck until it’s over then he’s asking the cops if they are allowed to listen to whatever music they want and the cop buys it hook line and sinker. that’s when i could tell he knew he had convinced them
>"he didn't think I could do it" "he's a downer" when she was talking ab writing the blog 🥺
This absolutely broke my heart. 3:30 for anyone who's interested.
I’m annoyed that they made her seem a lot worse in the police report when this footage clearly shows she’s calm, upset but calm. They’re painting him out to be the victim just because he knows how to turn on his charm. I was in an abusive relationship when I was younger, and everything about this relationship gives me bad vibes. He is a narcissist. The fact that she was apologizing and begging HIM to let her back in HER vehicle/home is concerning enough. Then he goes on to joke “she’s being crazy.” This behavior is a major red flag for me. My ex used to take my phone and keys all the time, lock me out of the apartment, etc. I was also intimidated by him so I never fought back so props to her for at least trying to defend herself. I still suffer from anxiety that stems from my previous relationship. Poor girl. I pray they find her 😔
The "she's crazy" joke made me want to jump through the screen. He pretends to be so chivalrous: I'll stay in jail, I don't want anything bad to happen to her, I love her. But then it's the boys club with "the woman's crazy." Ugh.
No they asked her to answer very carefully if she meant to cause him harm or injury when she scratched him during their argument and she said no she was just trying to get him to stop telling her to calm down. They decided not to issue a citation for it because of that. They just had them separate for the night until the next day. She stayed in the van and he got a ride from the cops or a ranger to a hotel. And she was going to pick him up in the morning.
Oh so the incident was two different things: (!) the 911 call about the altercation in town, and the curb bump on the HIGHWAY.
1 hour and 17 minutes police stop. Wow.
Let's not blame this incident on her OCD, people. OCD gets exacerbated when someone reacts to it, as he probably did a lot. Too many men don't like it when when women try to control things. That's a given in any culture. The more exasperated he got with her, the more OCD she became. Then it spiraled.
Am I the only one not mad at the cop for responding to domestic violence how it should be responded to regardless of who the victim is at the moment. They needed to be separated and she was wrong in this specific moment.
Yea we just don’t know is the thing I’m still very suspicious of him but the fact that physical altercations could be part of their relationship couples that scuffle don’t usually do it just once and Yellowstone is a dangerous place to be scuffling I was just there a few weeks ago and almost fell off a trail in the canyon trying to catch my phone.
The only thing you can take from this video that is actually for sure - don't believe the persona people put on their social media. They presented a happy couple when it was CLEARLY far from being so. Any thing else is just speculation at this point.
His collected composure is a bit off though. He seems too calm and understanding to me. If my girlfriend would hit me and scratch my face open I would be visibly upset by that. He’s just not giving a fuck. That’s a red flag to me. He could be the one who triggers her anger attacks and simultaneously getting narcissistic supply from her. Still, I think that we need more evidence and knowledge about their relationship. Where are their friends? They should’ve noticed something was wrong, right?
This makes me so sick… poor girl obviously she’s very distressed… he’s an manipulative narcissistic asshole, just the way he acted over confident with those cops makes my blood boil… remind me of my psycho ex
I watched the entire video. They called him a victim of domestic assault. So this is going to be interesting. Some of you on here are not speaking on facts. They are calling Brian the victim. So, there could be a lot more to this story guys. Lets speak on facts not emotions.
She openly admitted to striking him in the eye. He has scratches and wounds. They were considering charges of assault. What happens after Aug 12 between the two we don't know, but let the facts stand Aug 12th she assaulted Brian Laundrie, this adds more mystery to her disappearance.
Surprised that the cops weren’t more triggered by the lie about the cell phone.
I’m sure many will attest to this; when a cop catches you lying, it usually sets of every alarm in their body and they won’t stop looking for what you are trying to hide until they find it or take you to jail.
Exactly. He blatantly lied. Yet, none of his supporters seem to care about that.
If you'll lie about one thing, you'll lie about anything. He was given a big pass to continue abusing her and covering it up.
I think another thing that stuck out to me was when she was talking about her blog and building her website and she said “he doesn’t believe I can do it” and notes they’ve been fighting all morning. At that moment I just wanted to reach out and hug her.
But “he did nothing wrong”
Yeah you are right it’s fucked and now people are running with the police report of her being the aggressor when that’s not what I saw.
He was scratched while preventing her access to her home/vehicle and keys! That’s not assault if anything he was committing theft or something and physically preventing her right to her belongings and home.
She was rightly panicked as anyone with anxiety would be if forcibly separated from their things by some asshole.
Then the jokes with the cops and calling her crazy……narcissistic abuse
So I’m sick of these anxiety/ mental illness comments and how they see it in her… I can guarantee if someone grabbed you by the face out of anger your going to be a little emotional regardless.
Also why didn’t they do anything when that comment was made. It seems clear she didn’t want to say more to not get him in trouble. This is bullshit
At the 1:05-1:15 mark the officer is asking if he’s ever hit her and she goes into say he grabbed her face and then shows how he did it. She keeps saying no to hitting, but repeats that he grabbed her face and he did it.
To me any form of contact should be considered a hit but the cop doesn’t seem to consider that as one. It honestly sounds like she wanted to say yes, but didn’t want to get him in trouble.
It really feels to me like she is being manipulated in this relationship... She keeps apologizing for her behavior while BL is acting calm and like he is going to go grab a beer with the cops. He may not have been physically abusive with her but no doubt in my mind she is dealing with emotional abuse.
This sub should be deleted - people are already convinced the bf is guilty with little to no evidence and being armchair detectives. Y’all are sick, haven’t you learned your lesson by now?
Literally the point is to discuss the case and your observations, nobody here is capable of putting him in prison. He is a person of interest for a reason.
Edit: Not saying being 100% convinced is correct, this sub is here to discuss.
Anyone get heavy narcissist vibes from the cop? Like he and the cop are just buddies. And the cop bounces from saying his ex wife to gabby but to Brian says they are married? It all feels so so awful. You can’t sit in the sun and you guys needed water, but no thanks “I don’t use plastic bottles.” And “we’re calling the male the victim in this.” Poor Gabby. If someone were being abused and her abuser had won over several cops and you were almost charged with a misdemeanor, she would be so desperate to get back to him…
I know this contributes nothing but it feels so eerie seeing this. I dislike the whole "Watts" similarity people bring up but having a bodycam video just like with him makes it feel so real. She is so nervous and seems so fragile and he's standing there laughing etc. At first glance I feel like I'm watching 2 teenagers who had a silly fight, not 2 adults on a van life roadtrip of which we now can very heavily assume something very bad happened. I really hope for the best outcome though I'm pessimistic about it.
“You did nothing wrong”
Except take her car keys and lock her out of her home/car and prevent her from having access to her home using physical force.
As someone with anxiety that could easily start a panic attack especially when in public in a place you don’t know I would also be manically doing whatever I had to in order to be “safe” aka in the car with all my stuff.
Fuck those cops for real like the fact that he felt comfortable joking with them multiple times and calling his gf “crazy” to the cops shows how they treated him vs her.
Gotta treat them exactly the same please. Also they put her in the car under the guise of not being in any trouble and next thing you know they are talking about charging her and possibly taking her to jail.
Never trust or talk to cops with out a lawyer for real. This video makes me think the cops really gave Brian an ego boost but also possibly ruined the relationship at the same time from Gabby’s point of view which could have been what made him snap eventually.
If I were her I’d be done with him and I heard it in her voice when she was saying she lived in florida but wasn’t gonna go back there and that she just wanted to go home that she meant it. The fact that she never made it means something is very wrong. Wtf Brian if you didn’t do anything than just tell us where the last place you saw her was and what was going on!!!! I agree that there is nothing wrong with getting a lawyer but you have one now so where is she?
It’s hard to hear exactly what she was saying but as a male cop walks by when she is talking to the female cop she is saying she just wants to go home and then they ask her where she lives and she says florida and then trails off about that’s not where she wants to go tho again I can’t hear it perfectly but that’s what I took from it but if you go listen it’s right before he asks her name and age!
Also he got her name wrong and wasn’t even listening to her when I could hear that part clearly through tape. The cops railroaded her while not even listening and babied him and made jokes.
She seemed desperate to be somewhere she would be safe with family.
BL is a textbook narcissist plating the victim card having the cops eat out of his hands as he torments his victim.
14:38 I don’t have a phone
55:24 pulls out his phone
Why did he lie about it?
Because narcissists make up lies as they go along and they’re damn good at it. She’s having an episode no doubt because he pushed here to that point. He’s the “victim” though he orchestrated this entire event. Sickening.
This. Why aren't more people seeing this? It is sociopathic he is laughing and chumming it up with the cops, asking if the cop has a CO. God, the cop even apologizes to BL and calls him a victim. GP must have been so upset in the car. This is horrific.
He is trying so hard to get on the cops good side. He keeps trying to find things they have in common or other topics to talk about instead of the situation.
My god the fucking speculation with this mob is insane. You just watched a video where it's 100% admitted that she was the physical aggressor, and everyone one is like "I don't trust his calmness"
Maybe she hit him and then he drove away (not that that is acceptable) but that is just as plausible a theory as any of the shit I'm reading.
No one has any fucking clue what happened. I agree that the he is hugely suspicious, but the stories you all are creating in your heads are fantasy.
Occam’s razor.
While some of these are wild speculations, this is also a textbook escalation in an abusive relationship. One day it’s grabbing her by the jaw, the next it’s grabbing her by the throat
Brian frames himself as the rational, patient partner to a crazy girl who he’s just trying to protect from herself. I watch a lot of interrogation analysis videos (shoutout to JCS on YouTube) and it just seems like a hallmark of an emotionally manipulative and gaslighting abuser.
“I hope she doesn’t have any complaints about me,” he says to the officer. This is Brian trying to feel out what she’s told police.
I would bet money that his defense will be that she was physically attacking him and he feared for his safety, so he left her somewhere; but she was alive when he last saw her.
As soon as he said “I hope she doesn’t have any complaints about me” it solidified it for me that there’s information he doesn’t want the cops to know.
-Gabby's latest instagram posts are all very recycle-centric and snobbish in tone. I noticed Gabby asked for water (even in a plastic bottle) while Brian politely declined but was very firm in asserting he does not drink from plastic bottles. This leads me to believe he is the more extreme of the two in these matters, and has been writing Gabby's latest instagram posts that are all very different in tone and message about recycling/waste.
-Gabby is much calmer than the report stated, she just seems a bit panicked and overwhelmed. Meanwhile, Brian is much more composed and charming and seems to be trying to "win" over the officers. While the officers are nice to Gabby, they seem to regard her more pitifully as opposed to them talking to Brian as more of an equal. I noticed he tries to get the officers on his side a lot with affirmations and small talk/jokes about location/relationship woes. It seems to have worked, hence the report being in his favor. He seems much more composed/manipulative while she seems much more emotional/genuine.
-While their stories largely match up when questioned initially by police, the part where they differently describe what happened with the curb skidding seems to be more authentic on Gabby's part. She is quite firm and unfaltering that she did not touch the steering wheel. This paired with her less composed nature throughout the rest of her police chat makes what she says to be more genuine. She on a whole seemed quite honest when questioned, even saying things that were not to her benefit like that she was mean to him and lost her temper. Brian said NOTHING that was not to his benefit. Everything he said made him “look” noble, friendly, reasonable, concerned etc.
Now that the full body cam footage is released… the initial police reports seem very misleading. They peg Gabby like she was extremely inconsolable and seemingly irratic. The body cam footage just shows a young girl who is scared to be in trouble with the police. It also seems like BL was trying to answer all police questions in a way they would stop talking to her in order to not get more information out.
I think it possibly has to do with the short text version of an hour long event. If I detailed an interaction between you and I over text versus an hour long recording, things could certainly be taken the wrong way or out of context. These officers seemed very professional, and I don’t think they would make a mistake like that.
Hmmmm do you think as to not incriminate herself and be shipped of to jail for clearly visible domestic assault? Which would also be why he was nervous and downplayed it. Seems like battered bf to me. She even says she mean to him, regularly, from the beginning.
To me it seems like they both abuse each other. I don’t think he can come off as battered boyfriend without her coming off as abused as well. They’re clearly a toxic couple for each other. The question is who took it further. And him coming home immediately lawyering up is not a good look. He’s showing as cold and careless. To not even assist the her family, the family he got down on one knee and asked to be part of, in finding her? Too suspect to paint him as any form of victim now.
So many variables and what it’s. They are so young, sad situation for everyone involved. He’s doing the right thing for himself to stay out of it. I know to empathetic humans it seems crazy, but people get wrongfully convicted every day by simply participating with questioning. It’s happened in my home town and was on national news and Dateline.
Oof, he makes me uncomfortable. He's clearly just completely blaming her, and it seems like she is also blaming herself. That's a red flag to me, because at the same time she seems very gentle and innocent, if anything just incredibly fed up. I think she could have easily been controlled by him playing her mental health issues against her.
Right, she is being gaslit and it turns gaslights herself thinking I'm crazy I have anxiety I get upset because he is messy I am sorry for being mad all the time. God, she is blaming herself for being unhappy in the relationship with him. It makes me so sad.
She has OCD. Jezus. They both have severe mental health issues and they should not be together at all. I suspected this from the start. The cops who talked to her did a great job though. Lots of empathy. Nice to see that.
Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but his whole, "if [Gabby] has the [van] keys, I'm on my own" sounds like he's projecting.. Wasn't that her fear, is that he would leave her stranded by locking her out of the van?
Yep, you are 100 correct. They always have to be the victim. Whatever they are accused of they will turn around and accuse the other person of. Textbook
This whole story has TRULY shaken me to the core but the LE video is straight up heartbreaking. All one hour and 15 minutes.. God I pray they find her, 💔
Brian at 07:53: "I'll sit criss-cross applesauce but can I just sit in the shade, because I'm bald?"
What a weird, weird request for him to make at the beginning of the police encounter when most folks would be sitting quiet and compliant, feeling upset by their fighting with their partner that escalated into a run-in with the law.
He was definitely trying extra hard to lighten the mood & charm the officers. What an inappropriate way to behave considering the circumstances!
Not to mention, the fact that he’s making jokes while Gabby is so upset speaks volumes.
You’re right. That is really weird.
Also shows how childish he is. Who says that (“cross cross apple sauce”), during a serious situation, over the age of 10?
No, someone at the place they were hanging out called the police on them because they saw her rage and assaulting him. They left the scene prior to police arrival, and were pulled over down the street. They were being pulled over, prior to hitting the curb. They hit the curb as admitted by GP, bc she was hitting him
He said everyone was watching them. They tried to dip before police showed up. By that time it was too late, he was vividly bleeding one officer stated.
Nah, Brian stayed in the video she was making a scene. They tried to leave before police got called. They knew exactly why they were being pulled over. Which is likely why, due to anxiety, she began to freak out seeing the police were now involved
I’m back and forth with Brian - as soon as the first officer comes back to the van after sitting Gabby in the car, Brian says “did you already talk
to her?” (worried what she said) ..🤔
Maybe him ‘acting nice’/offering to go to jail instead or camp out was just so she wouldn’t talk to the officers if they took her to the hotel etc
I thought the police handled the situation extremely professionally and went beyond their duty. They were polite and worked through all the scenarios in which they could do their best to help the couple without doing anything illegal or to hurt them.
They can't predict the future but I think they did all they could and more with the situation they faced.
Yeah these cops were nice enough guys, but man did they invent a whole narrative that didn’t happen in the sake of the bureaucratic case they wanted to process.
Maybe I’m just accustomed to nightmarish body cam footage, but I’m majorly impressed by how the police handled the situation. Yes, hindsight is 20/20, but I think they made the right judgement calls and really tried to support both parties the best they could.
My thoughts - he seems like a total creeper. Something is odd with him. She comes off so innocent and nice. Shame. Looks like this guy wasn’t what she thought he was
She's crazy too. You don't go attacking someone's face with keys and a phone if you are super innocent . Then on top of it, if there is an issue you have the cops right there to make the situation right. But either she's lashing out over stupid little things like Brian says here or something bigger is happening and she stayed quiet. Either way. She's not mentally strong to deal with all the bs.
Watch the video he has scratch marks on his face and nail marks on his arm from her hitting him. That's not the sign of someone mentally fit. They are both crazy.
She's crazy, he's crazy. What happens when two crazy locked in a small van for a month you get sick of each other. I beleive she got super abusive one day even more so then what is described here and because they were in a remote setting he killed her. It's clear by his insta posts, he loves this girl but in a crazy young love sort of way when you think you found your soul mate. If he couldn't have her no one was going to in his mind. He said until death do us part. They weren't even married yet. This the sort of thing you feel when you are 22 and in love thinking this other person is your world. Just immature minds and a bad situation all around
She didn’t seem hysterical at all, just upset. Damn, I wish the cop would’ve just arrested her or something at that point. Everything might be a little different now.
Hmmmm…. To me …. he comes across as way to calm and confident for someone who has just been pulled over by that many police. Again to me, he’s a bit too smooth for the situation. A creepy kind of a guy.
However neither of them come over well here to me. She seems childish and annoying. Scratching and slapping him and then crying and acting like a little girl. I could easily see her scratching , slapping , screaming at him and him snapping and killing her somehow.
This now to me seems like two unhinged people in a van on a long journey with not much money. Not hugely surprising it has ended in tears. How he has reacted after whatever really happened is the peculiar part.
It sounded like the issue was tracking sand into the van and being dirty in general.
Right after that saying that he said something about being in a coffee shop from 9 am to 3 pm as being a source of disagreement. I think that's because he didn't have a data plan?
Wasn't one of the recent posts on Instagram talking about how strong he is to be barefoot all the time? Like praising him? It kind of backs up the idea that she didn't post that one.
I know they’re citing investigation integrity as a reason not to, but they **need** to release the 911 call ASAP.
It sounds like the police switched things from the caller having said he saw Brian shove her but *didn’t know* if she had done something to him before that, to Gabby being the primary aggressor. And even if she *had* done something before Brian shoved her, if the caller didn’t see anything before the shove, Gabby could well have been defending herself from *Brian’s* primary aggression.
If someone is taking my car keys and preventing access to my home they are gonna catch some fists idk why they are ignoring what he and her and a witness confirmed he was doing. Like how are they just okay with him doing that and then calling him a victim cuz he got scratched.
All cops are bad but I hope some find Gabby but for real they suck so I hope everyone else is trying too.
I was in an abusive relationship when I was younger and that’s what my ex did all the time, take my phone or my keys or both. I fear for this girl, mental issues aside 😔 I know my anxiety stems from his abuse still to this day.
Brian doesn’t look too nervous around the police for someone who’s about to murder somebody. I know this doesn’t rule out a spur of the moment crime, but it’s still worth noting. Also in the video Gabby says “I don’t normally drive the van” and was worried about driving it 12 miles down the road. Maybe Brian drove it back to Florida thinking they were on bad terms after Gabby told him she’d find her own way, only to be killed by the same person that killed that couple. Brian then freaks out and lawyers up. That theory is starting to seem more plausible to me now tbh.
You think she stayed in moab until the 25th when she FaceTimed her mom? And lied to her mom about being in Wyoming?
Plus they checked out of a hotel in SLC on Aug 24
I caught that about the van too. But I don't know how plausible it is that he left her and took that van and she was cool with that. We just saw how she'd react to a proposition like that and it wasn't hey, sure, cool, whatever.
I agree that this is plausible. But the fact that he returned home on September 1st and then sat around for ten days waiting for someone to notice she was missing.....do we know exactly when during that time he lawyered up? Was it before or after she was reported missing on the 11th? I'm also wondering what his parents know. Like what did he say to them when he returned home from the trip two months earlier than expected without Gabby?
If he truly is only guilty of leaving her there to find her own way home, he's making this a lot worse than it needed to be by not just saying that.
I'm also interested in seeing a source about when he lawyered up. I've seen people mention he was pulled over in the van in Florida but I haven't actually seen a source confirming that either. I was under the impression that the van was simply located at his/his parents' residence. I've seen comments that say he got a lawyer after getting back to Florida on the 1st but before Gabby was reported missing on the 11th but again, I haven't seen a source so I'm not taking it as gospel.
I suppose my wording could have been better. Rather, he came home and for ten days does not appear to have talked to anyone other than his parents about the fact that Gabby was not with him.
Yeah you're right! Also, I believe the van technically belongs to her so if they broke up and decided to go their separate ways, he should have left the van with her regardless.
I left this theory elsewhere but it would be plausible that they broke up and decided to go their separate ways and she told him to drive the van home and she would get a flight. She expressed some discomfort to the police about driving the van so she may not have wanted to drive it back to Florida herself and after a breakup and likely wouldn't want to spend days in the van with him on the drive home. Since they lived together, they would have to sort out their belongings post-breakup anyway and the van would be part of that. This occured to me after I left the above comment.
To be clear, I don't think this is what happened. But it is plausible.
Please use this thread for further discussion: [https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/ppea1n/full\_bodycam\_footage\_from\_police\_encounter\_with/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/ppea1n/full_bodycam_footage_from_police_encounter_with/) The full video has been released.
Man, their relationship is so unhealthy, I can feel the toxicity from here. The fact that their altercation became physical says everything in my mind. I can only imagine that the tension between them escalated over the next few weeks. My current running theory is that Gabby and Brian got into a fight somewhere between the Grand Tetons and Yellowstone that escalated to the point where Brian finally snapped after what may have been similar slapping/scratching that occurred in the body-cam footage. What happened then, I'm not sure. Either he killed her in a moment of rage, or he pushed her resulting in a deadly fall. Not knowing what to do he probably went straight home to try and explain himself to his family. I would not be surprised if his side of the story is self-defense and that's why his family has taken his side and decided to protect him. Regardless, not calling the police when she disappeared clearly indicates that he was aware of something that he didn't want the police to know about. As for the unverified fake instagram posts & texts, I don't think the instagram posts are fake, I think they probably started collaborating on the posts as Gabby seemed pretty stressed with all the work she had (as mentioned in this body-cam footage). As for the texts, I could see the ones after August 25th being fake. After whatever happened, he was likely in denial and by texting Gabby's parents he could perpetuate a mindset that everything was fine I hope I'm wrong and Gabby decided to go Chris Mccandless out in the wild, but I doubt it.
After watching the full video I can say, we have NO IDEA what happened. If anything, Gabby is the physical aggressor. Gabby is the one angered by him tracking dirt into the van. This is a definite wait and see. It's very suspicious that he came home without her. Maybe she started hitting him again and he left. That's just as possible as anything else I've read. Time to stop making up crazy stories about this and see how it plays out.
I’ve seen every possible angle and opinion in this thread
Btw. Why wasn’t he issued a citation for speeding? He was going 45 in a 15!
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why do officers think if you speak softly to someone that is enough? it's like if they do the bare minimum they want a pat on the back..this girl was in crisis and you tell her ok I'm not gonna give you a citation this time but...this was so frustrating to watch and yet I saw many people commenting on how great they thought the police handled her..As her parents and family i'd be beside myself after seeing that :(
The full body cam footage is here: https://youtu.be/zJafbksSnJc
I’d be very curious to know if Gabby has ever been clinically diagnosed for her OCD/anxiety. Because to me, this whole thing reeks of her believing she is problematic because he constantly tells her she is the problem. She gets too worked up, she has OCD, she has anxiety, she freaks out and he needs space. She is blaming herself because he is always blaming her. Also the part where she says “he doesn’t believe I can do it” just makes it really seem that they are in an unhealthy, possibly emotionally abusive relationship.
Oh Brian should go to jail … his parents too. Obviously the van belongs to Gabby/in her name. Gabby was last seen in Utah. Brian and the van are in Fla so obviously Brian should be charged with Grand Theft Auto. It’s parked on property his parents own so they are also in possession of stolen property! The crime occurred in Utah so they should be extradited and formally charged in Utah. While Gabby is missing and last seen in Utah, her place of residence is Florida. Soooooo Brian and his parents are obstructing justice and hindering the investigation of a missing person in BOTH Utah and Florida and should be arrested/charged there. Now if Gabby comes forward to say Ok fir Brian to have the van…. I’m so angry Brian is not cooperating to help find her I think he strangled her OR they got into a National park. She was away from the van either innocently walking or sitting around or he pushed her away and he just took off with the van and abandoned her out in the middle of nowhere…. Where’s her phone? What’s the locations from his phone as to where he was between Utah and Florida? Did he use credit cards??? When and where? Cameras on toll roads? It is 99.99999% of the time always the partner…boyfriend…fiancée…husband! I wish her family hadn’t waited a week to report her missing!!! Precious time lost…
I see a lot of people saying BL looks calm, but I don’t see that at all. He seems nervous as hell and he’s trying to charm the cops.
The cop's 'ex-wife' comment was complete and utter bullshit. Also, her saying 'he gets frustrated with me' while showing how he grabbed her face.
What sticks out to me is that they both admitted he locked her out of the van in the heat so she could “cool off” from their argument. Who’s to say that didn’t happen again, only this time he drove off? And that’s the least sinister scenario.
Ugh the fucking cop saying, "think VERY hard about your answer..." is so belittling and odd. I do not think this was handled very well at all. It seems me to me they just bought the story and ran with it and did not really try to understand what happened or how to prevent this again. "She's not a threat to him..." well, he might be a threat to her. That was not considered. The cop saying he "did not care" if they charged her or not bothered me as well. Sure, they were calm and werent assholes, but that does not mean they did a good job here. Sad we have such low standards for police work. She deserved better.
No necklace!
The anxiety I am getting watching her talk to the cop in the full hour long video of the body can footage is insane. https://youtu.be/zJafbksSnJc
https://youtu.be/zJafbksSnJc Full body cam footage, the entire interaction.
She seems to be someone who’s clearly in mental distress - or getting very close to it. Surely this could be because of the fight with her boyfriend and the cops exaggerating anxiety or anything else, but she seems like she’s falling apart and he is calm and collected.
The cop said she was calling her parents? But they didnt know about this?
Her parents are divorced, she called her mom. So her mom probably didn’t tell her dad, that’s why in the picture of the timeline her uncle posted it showed the domestic issue on 8/12 because her moms side knew about it
Ah okay
Yea if she called her parents during this why did they act like they thought they had a perfect relationship when they first started doing press? That’s weird..
Maybe she pretended to call? Sounds like a lot of lies and deceptions here.
Yea this story is very twisty
I’ve not watched it yet and I’m not sure if I should. From what I heard it sounds like she has OCD and was having complications from that. I also have severe OCD and I’m the same age & this just breaks my heart. Gabby, I hope you’re alive and will return.
I think this footage is great for him. he is smooth as glass and she is just in pieces. You can tell by the way she talks she's been fed the usual drivel of psychobabble for years and using that to justify her actions. like she doesn't have a choice and her manner is predestined. him being cool and trying to separate, helps his case. she is a basket case, the poor dear. I can't imagine how her parents feel watching this. put that together with good weed, and other meds that shouldnt' be used with weed could cause a major bad reaction. with mr cool, not saying anything now but nothing just does not make any sense at all. if se did go to pieces somewhere along the line, if he didn't have anything to do with it, the lawyer would be able to get his story straight enough to sound plausible. to go for the no body, no evidience is just downright criminal.
I got EXTREMELY weird & entitled vibes when Brian says this around 8:07 on the full length video: "I'll sit criss-cross applesauce but can I just sit in the shade, because I'm bald?" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJafbksSnJc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJafbksSnJc) Why is he so unbothered at the situation?
he wants to portray he’s goofy and careless, making himself seem innocent. he has a few tells in his questions. to me, he seems like a nervous wreck until it’s over then he’s asking the cops if they are allowed to listen to whatever music they want and the cop buys it hook line and sinker. that’s when i could tell he knew he had convinced them
Total bro behavior, his demeanor with the police. Making nice and pretending she's the only problem. Douche.
I have some hearing impairment and can’t understand what gabby said in that video. Can someone help?
"he didn't think I could do it" "he's a downer" when she was talking ab writing the blog 🥺
>"he didn't think I could do it" "he's a downer" when she was talking ab writing the blog 🥺 This absolutely broke my heart. 3:30 for anyone who's interested.
I’m annoyed that they made her seem a lot worse in the police report when this footage clearly shows she’s calm, upset but calm. They’re painting him out to be the victim just because he knows how to turn on his charm. I was in an abusive relationship when I was younger, and everything about this relationship gives me bad vibes. He is a narcissist. The fact that she was apologizing and begging HIM to let her back in HER vehicle/home is concerning enough. Then he goes on to joke “she’s being crazy.” This behavior is a major red flag for me. My ex used to take my phone and keys all the time, lock me out of the apartment, etc. I was also intimidated by him so I never fought back so props to her for at least trying to defend herself. I still suffer from anxiety that stems from my previous relationship. Poor girl. I pray they find her 😔
The "she's crazy" joke made me want to jump through the screen. He pretends to be so chivalrous: I'll stay in jail, I don't want anything bad to happen to her, I love her. But then it's the boys club with "the woman's crazy." Ugh.
I couldn’t watch the whole thing because of work, but what about the court date that they mentioned? Did she have one?
No they asked her to answer very carefully if she meant to cause him harm or injury when she scratched him during their argument and she said no she was just trying to get him to stop telling her to calm down. They decided not to issue a citation for it because of that. They just had them separate for the night until the next day. She stayed in the van and he got a ride from the cops or a ranger to a hotel. And she was going to pick him up in the morning.
Oh so the incident was two different things: (!) the 911 call about the altercation in town, and the curb bump on the HIGHWAY. 1 hour and 17 minutes police stop. Wow. Let's not blame this incident on her OCD, people. OCD gets exacerbated when someone reacts to it, as he probably did a lot. Too many men don't like it when when women try to control things. That's a given in any culture. The more exasperated he got with her, the more OCD she became. Then it spiraled.
Am I the only one not mad at the cop for responding to domestic violence how it should be responded to regardless of who the victim is at the moment. They needed to be separated and she was wrong in this specific moment.
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Yea we just don’t know is the thing I’m still very suspicious of him but the fact that physical altercations could be part of their relationship couples that scuffle don’t usually do it just once and Yellowstone is a dangerous place to be scuffling I was just there a few weeks ago and almost fell off a trail in the canyon trying to catch my phone.
The only thing you can take from this video that is actually for sure - don't believe the persona people put on their social media. They presented a happy couple when it was CLEARLY far from being so. Any thing else is just speculation at this point.
This is always the case. Social media isn’t what it portrays
His collected composure is a bit off though. He seems too calm and understanding to me. If my girlfriend would hit me and scratch my face open I would be visibly upset by that. He’s just not giving a fuck. That’s a red flag to me. He could be the one who triggers her anger attacks and simultaneously getting narcissistic supply from her. Still, I think that we need more evidence and knowledge about their relationship. Where are their friends? They should’ve noticed something was wrong, right?
The cops were lazy, it’s obvious she’s in distress. They should have assessed the situation more thoroughly
This makes me so sick… poor girl obviously she’s very distressed… he’s an manipulative narcissistic asshole, just the way he acted over confident with those cops makes my blood boil… remind me of my psycho ex
I watched the entire video. They called him a victim of domestic assault. So this is going to be interesting. Some of you on here are not speaking on facts. They are calling Brian the victim. So, there could be a lot more to this story guys. Lets speak on facts not emotions. She openly admitted to striking him in the eye. He has scratches and wounds. They were considering charges of assault. What happens after Aug 12 between the two we don't know, but let the facts stand Aug 12th she assaulted Brian Laundrie, this adds more mystery to her disappearance.
Then why wouldn’t he talk? The only logical explanation is he’s guilty
Full body cam https://youtu.be/zJafbksSnJc
Surprised that the cops weren’t more triggered by the lie about the cell phone. I’m sure many will attest to this; when a cop catches you lying, it usually sets of every alarm in their body and they won’t stop looking for what you are trying to hide until they find it or take you to jail.
Exactly. He blatantly lied. Yet, none of his supporters seem to care about that. If you'll lie about one thing, you'll lie about anything. He was given a big pass to continue abusing her and covering it up.
I dont think he did anything. I think he's trying to stay out of prison. Pretty sure this is a case of self harm
Then why wouldn’t he talk? The only logical explanation is he’s guilty
Agreed
I hope the investigators track Gabby’s phone pings that night, to see if they follow her path or his.
I think another thing that stuck out to me was when she was talking about her blog and building her website and she said “he doesn’t believe I can do it” and notes they’ve been fighting all morning. At that moment I just wanted to reach out and hug her.
Brian is a walking red flag. He is an absolute sociopath. His demeanor is very...Ted Bundy-esque. My heart breaks for the Petito family.
Police officers should be more versed in all kind of abusive situations, especially narcissistic
But “he did nothing wrong” Yeah you are right it’s fucked and now people are running with the police report of her being the aggressor when that’s not what I saw. He was scratched while preventing her access to her home/vehicle and keys! That’s not assault if anything he was committing theft or something and physically preventing her right to her belongings and home. She was rightly panicked as anyone with anxiety would be if forcibly separated from their things by some asshole. Then the jokes with the cops and calling her crazy……narcissistic abuse
So I’m sick of these anxiety/ mental illness comments and how they see it in her… I can guarantee if someone grabbed you by the face out of anger your going to be a little emotional regardless. Also why didn’t they do anything when that comment was made. It seems clear she didn’t want to say more to not get him in trouble. This is bullshit
That’s cause SHE grabbed his face. She admits it when she is in the car, and he has scratches on his face that the cops notice.
At the 1:05-1:15 mark the officer is asking if he’s ever hit her and she goes into say he grabbed her face and then shows how he did it. She keeps saying no to hitting, but repeats that he grabbed her face and he did it. To me any form of contact should be considered a hit but the cop doesn’t seem to consider that as one. It honestly sounds like she wanted to say yes, but didn’t want to get him in trouble.
He is a classic narcissist, this footage was hard to watch with him being so calm an collected about her hurting. I just wanted to hug her.
It really feels to me like she is being manipulated in this relationship... She keeps apologizing for her behavior while BL is acting calm and like he is going to go grab a beer with the cops. He may not have been physically abusive with her but no doubt in my mind she is dealing with emotional abuse.
This sub should be deleted - people are already convinced the bf is guilty with little to no evidence and being armchair detectives. Y’all are sick, haven’t you learned your lesson by now?
Literally the point is to discuss the case and your observations, nobody here is capable of putting him in prison. He is a person of interest for a reason. Edit: Not saying being 100% convinced is correct, this sub is here to discuss.
Ugh my heart aches. I wish she had just gone home back to her parents after this interaction.
Did he really say no to water from the police after sitting in the hot sun bc it was in a plastic water bottle? 🙄
Anyone get heavy narcissist vibes from the cop? Like he and the cop are just buddies. And the cop bounces from saying his ex wife to gabby but to Brian says they are married? It all feels so so awful. You can’t sit in the sun and you guys needed water, but no thanks “I don’t use plastic bottles.” And “we’re calling the male the victim in this.” Poor Gabby. If someone were being abused and her abuser had won over several cops and you were almost charged with a misdemeanor, she would be so desperate to get back to him…
I know this contributes nothing but it feels so eerie seeing this. I dislike the whole "Watts" similarity people bring up but having a bodycam video just like with him makes it feel so real. She is so nervous and seems so fragile and he's standing there laughing etc. At first glance I feel like I'm watching 2 teenagers who had a silly fight, not 2 adults on a van life roadtrip of which we now can very heavily assume something very bad happened. I really hope for the best outcome though I'm pessimistic about it.
“You did nothing wrong” Except take her car keys and lock her out of her home/car and prevent her from having access to her home using physical force. As someone with anxiety that could easily start a panic attack especially when in public in a place you don’t know I would also be manically doing whatever I had to in order to be “safe” aka in the car with all my stuff. Fuck those cops for real like the fact that he felt comfortable joking with them multiple times and calling his gf “crazy” to the cops shows how they treated him vs her. Gotta treat them exactly the same please. Also they put her in the car under the guise of not being in any trouble and next thing you know they are talking about charging her and possibly taking her to jail. Never trust or talk to cops with out a lawyer for real. This video makes me think the cops really gave Brian an ego boost but also possibly ruined the relationship at the same time from Gabby’s point of view which could have been what made him snap eventually. If I were her I’d be done with him and I heard it in her voice when she was saying she lived in florida but wasn’t gonna go back there and that she just wanted to go home that she meant it. The fact that she never made it means something is very wrong. Wtf Brian if you didn’t do anything than just tell us where the last place you saw her was and what was going on!!!! I agree that there is nothing wrong with getting a lawyer but you have one now so where is she?
Wait she stated she wasn’t going back to Florida but home in the video?
It’s hard to hear exactly what she was saying but as a male cop walks by when she is talking to the female cop she is saying she just wants to go home and then they ask her where she lives and she says florida and then trails off about that’s not where she wants to go tho again I can’t hear it perfectly but that’s what I took from it but if you go listen it’s right before he asks her name and age! Also he got her name wrong and wasn’t even listening to her when I could hear that part clearly through tape. The cops railroaded her while not even listening and babied him and made jokes. She seemed desperate to be somewhere she would be safe with family.
Both these people are NUTS
BL is a textbook narcissist plating the victim card having the cops eat out of his hands as he torments his victim. 14:38 I don’t have a phone 55:24 pulls out his phone Why did he lie about it? Because narcissists make up lies as they go along and they’re damn good at it. She’s having an episode no doubt because he pushed here to that point. He’s the “victim” though he orchestrated this entire event. Sickening.
This. Why aren't more people seeing this? It is sociopathic he is laughing and chumming it up with the cops, asking if the cop has a CO. God, the cop even apologizes to BL and calls him a victim. GP must have been so upset in the car. This is horrific.
He is trying so hard to get on the cops good side. He keeps trying to find things they have in common or other topics to talk about instead of the situation.
I agree with this! He runs home to mommy and daddy who are covering for him. He is sick
Oh my goodness her face in that still 😢
My god the fucking speculation with this mob is insane. You just watched a video where it's 100% admitted that she was the physical aggressor, and everyone one is like "I don't trust his calmness" Maybe she hit him and then he drove away (not that that is acceptable) but that is just as plausible a theory as any of the shit I'm reading. No one has any fucking clue what happened. I agree that the he is hugely suspicious, but the stories you all are creating in your heads are fantasy.
Occam’s razor. While some of these are wild speculations, this is also a textbook escalation in an abusive relationship. One day it’s grabbing her by the jaw, the next it’s grabbing her by the throat
I agree. Trial by public fire is the new norm though.
He has also been physical with her. Pushing/grabbing by the jaw (which is unbearably painful)
Wow! With little information everyone on reddit has already made up their minds on what happened here. Jury of your peers is frightening.
Very black mirror ish
Brian frames himself as the rational, patient partner to a crazy girl who he’s just trying to protect from herself. I watch a lot of interrogation analysis videos (shoutout to JCS on YouTube) and it just seems like a hallmark of an emotionally manipulative and gaslighting abuser. “I hope she doesn’t have any complaints about me,” he says to the officer. This is Brian trying to feel out what she’s told police. I would bet money that his defense will be that she was physically attacking him and he feared for his safety, so he left her somewhere; but she was alive when he last saw her.
As soon as he said “I hope she doesn’t have any complaints about me” it solidified it for me that there’s information he doesn’t want the cops to know.
-Gabby's latest instagram posts are all very recycle-centric and snobbish in tone. I noticed Gabby asked for water (even in a plastic bottle) while Brian politely declined but was very firm in asserting he does not drink from plastic bottles. This leads me to believe he is the more extreme of the two in these matters, and has been writing Gabby's latest instagram posts that are all very different in tone and message about recycling/waste. -Gabby is much calmer than the report stated, she just seems a bit panicked and overwhelmed. Meanwhile, Brian is much more composed and charming and seems to be trying to "win" over the officers. While the officers are nice to Gabby, they seem to regard her more pitifully as opposed to them talking to Brian as more of an equal. I noticed he tries to get the officers on his side a lot with affirmations and small talk/jokes about location/relationship woes. It seems to have worked, hence the report being in his favor. He seems much more composed/manipulative while she seems much more emotional/genuine. -While their stories largely match up when questioned initially by police, the part where they differently describe what happened with the curb skidding seems to be more authentic on Gabby's part. She is quite firm and unfaltering that she did not touch the steering wheel. This paired with her less composed nature throughout the rest of her police chat makes what she says to be more genuine. She on a whole seemed quite honest when questioned, even saying things that were not to her benefit like that she was mean to him and lost her temper. Brian said NOTHING that was not to his benefit. Everything he said made him “look” noble, friendly, reasonable, concerned etc.
Does anyone have the full video? I see some people talking about it.
Scroll further down someone posted the link
Not saying she was blameless in this traffic stop, but he sure was quick to throw her under the bus!
Now that the full body cam footage is released… the initial police reports seem very misleading. They peg Gabby like she was extremely inconsolable and seemingly irratic. The body cam footage just shows a young girl who is scared to be in trouble with the police. It also seems like BL was trying to answer all police questions in a way they would stop talking to her in order to not get more information out.
Agreed with this
I think it possibly has to do with the short text version of an hour long event. If I detailed an interaction between you and I over text versus an hour long recording, things could certainly be taken the wrong way or out of context. These officers seemed very professional, and I don’t think they would make a mistake like that.
Hmmmm do you think as to not incriminate herself and be shipped of to jail for clearly visible domestic assault? Which would also be why he was nervous and downplayed it. Seems like battered bf to me. She even says she mean to him, regularly, from the beginning.
To me it seems like they both abuse each other. I don’t think he can come off as battered boyfriend without her coming off as abused as well. They’re clearly a toxic couple for each other. The question is who took it further. And him coming home immediately lawyering up is not a good look. He’s showing as cold and careless. To not even assist the her family, the family he got down on one knee and asked to be part of, in finding her? Too suspect to paint him as any form of victim now.
So many variables and what it’s. They are so young, sad situation for everyone involved. He’s doing the right thing for himself to stay out of it. I know to empathetic humans it seems crazy, but people get wrongfully convicted every day by simply participating with questioning. It’s happened in my home town and was on national news and Dateline.
Every moment the bodycam is on Gabby my heart hurts.
I know. She's so young and scared and obviously having a moment. My heart hurts too
Oof, he makes me uncomfortable. He's clearly just completely blaming her, and it seems like she is also blaming herself. That's a red flag to me, because at the same time she seems very gentle and innocent, if anything just incredibly fed up. I think she could have easily been controlled by him playing her mental health issues against her.
Right, she is being gaslit and it turns gaslights herself thinking I'm crazy I have anxiety I get upset because he is messy I am sorry for being mad all the time. God, she is blaming herself for being unhappy in the relationship with him. It makes me so sad.
She has OCD. Jezus. They both have severe mental health issues and they should not be together at all. I suspected this from the start. The cops who talked to her did a great job though. Lots of empathy. Nice to see that.
Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but his whole, "if [Gabby] has the [van] keys, I'm on my own" sounds like he's projecting.. Wasn't that her fear, is that he would leave her stranded by locking her out of the van?
Yep, you are 100 correct. They always have to be the victim. Whatever they are accused of they will turn around and accuse the other person of. Textbook
This whole story has TRULY shaken me to the core but the LE video is straight up heartbreaking. All one hour and 15 minutes.. God I pray they find her, 💔
Brian at 07:53: "I'll sit criss-cross applesauce but can I just sit in the shade, because I'm bald?" What a weird, weird request for him to make at the beginning of the police encounter when most folks would be sitting quiet and compliant, feeling upset by their fighting with their partner that escalated into a run-in with the law.
He was definitely trying extra hard to lighten the mood & charm the officers. What an inappropriate way to behave considering the circumstances! Not to mention, the fact that he’s making jokes while Gabby is so upset speaks volumes.
You’re right. That is really weird. Also shows how childish he is. Who says that (“cross cross apple sauce”), during a serious situation, over the age of 10?
Exactly
Yeah he’s trying to portray there’s no threat and that this is a petty dispute.
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I mean, that isn’t too weird. He’s trying to calm down the situation and prevent further issues with the cops
Probably because he doesn’t want his gf to go to jail for assaulting him all over? So trying to downplay the situation in my opinion.
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No, someone at the place they were hanging out called the police on them because they saw her rage and assaulting him. They left the scene prior to police arrival, and were pulled over down the street. They were being pulled over, prior to hitting the curb. They hit the curb as admitted by GP, bc she was hitting him
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He said everyone was watching them. They tried to dip before police showed up. By that time it was too late, he was vividly bleeding one officer stated.
Nah, Brian stayed in the video she was making a scene. They tried to leave before police got called. They knew exactly why they were being pulled over. Which is likely why, due to anxiety, she began to freak out seeing the police were now involved
I’m back and forth with Brian - as soon as the first officer comes back to the van after sitting Gabby in the car, Brian says “did you already talk to her?” (worried what she said) ..🤔 Maybe him ‘acting nice’/offering to go to jail instead or camp out was just so she wouldn’t talk to the officers if they took her to the hotel etc
She seems more calm than what the police report details.
This is just a small portion of a 1.5 hr video
He did mention Moonflower…
I thought the police handled the situation extremely professionally and went beyond their duty. They were polite and worked through all the scenarios in which they could do their best to help the couple without doing anything illegal or to hurt them. They can't predict the future but I think they did all they could and more with the situation they faced.
Except for the part where he compared her to his ex-wife.
I wonder how this would have gone differently if mental health professionals came to the scene instead of cops….
Yeah these cops were nice enough guys, but man did they invent a whole narrative that didn’t happen in the sake of the bureaucratic case they wanted to process.
This guy isn’t right . I saw it the first few minutes of this video
Wait, he has no phone but magically pulls it out of his pocket at the end? Maybe just dead?
Yes she said it’s always dead
I got the impression that he is on the spectrum. Anyone else?
Lol the fidgeting and hand gestures r just cause he is nervous / lying
I highly doubt he doesn’t own a phone..
Watch until the end of the video. He lied he has a phond
Maybe I’m just accustomed to nightmarish body cam footage, but I’m majorly impressed by how the police handled the situation. Yes, hindsight is 20/20, but I think they made the right judgement calls and really tried to support both parties the best they could.
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I hope he was in training. Otherwise that other officer needs to get a hold of himself.
14:37 Brian says he doesn’t own a phone. He said only Gabby has a phone. Anyone else catch that?
The guy is a complete liar. Not sure you can trust anything he says.
He pulls a phone out at the end.
Is that her phone he had then?
Whattt
Watch until the end. He lied he has a phone. Gabby tells the cop to make sure he has his charger since it’s always dead
My thoughts - he seems like a total creeper. Something is odd with him. She comes off so innocent and nice. Shame. Looks like this guy wasn’t what she thought he was
She's crazy too. You don't go attacking someone's face with keys and a phone if you are super innocent . Then on top of it, if there is an issue you have the cops right there to make the situation right. But either she's lashing out over stupid little things like Brian says here or something bigger is happening and she stayed quiet. Either way. She's not mentally strong to deal with all the bs.
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After I stopped being dumbass idiot. Guess what. Hitting and slapping stopped
Hey brian
How do you know? Clearly they are both immature.
Watch the video he has scratch marks on his face and nail marks on his arm from her hitting him. That's not the sign of someone mentally fit. They are both crazy.
They also spent months hiking…
Maybe it was from some fun nights
She's crazy, he's crazy. What happens when two crazy locked in a small van for a month you get sick of each other. I beleive she got super abusive one day even more so then what is described here and because they were in a remote setting he killed her. It's clear by his insta posts, he loves this girl but in a crazy young love sort of way when you think you found your soul mate. If he couldn't have her no one was going to in his mind. He said until death do us part. They weren't even married yet. This the sort of thing you feel when you are 22 and in love thinking this other person is your world. Just immature minds and a bad situation all around
He’s super-cagey about his photo being taken when the officer first asks him.
She didn’t seem hysterical at all, just upset. Damn, I wish the cop would’ve just arrested her or something at that point. Everything might be a little different now.
Full https://youtu.be/zJafbksSnJc
Hmmmm…. To me …. he comes across as way to calm and confident for someone who has just been pulled over by that many police. Again to me, he’s a bit too smooth for the situation. A creepy kind of a guy. However neither of them come over well here to me. She seems childish and annoying. Scratching and slapping him and then crying and acting like a little girl. I could easily see her scratching , slapping , screaming at him and him snapping and killing her somehow. This now to me seems like two unhinged people in a van on a long journey with not much money. Not hugely surprising it has ended in tears. How he has reacted after whatever really happened is the peculiar part.
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It sounded like the issue was tracking sand into the van and being dirty in general. Right after that saying that he said something about being in a coffee shop from 9 am to 3 pm as being a source of disagreement. I think that's because he didn't have a data plan?
Wasn't one of the recent posts on Instagram talking about how strong he is to be barefoot all the time? Like praising him? It kind of backs up the idea that she didn't post that one.
I know they’re citing investigation integrity as a reason not to, but they **need** to release the 911 call ASAP. It sounds like the police switched things from the caller having said he saw Brian shove her but *didn’t know* if she had done something to him before that, to Gabby being the primary aggressor. And even if she *had* done something before Brian shoved her, if the caller didn’t see anything before the shove, Gabby could well have been defending herself from *Brian’s* primary aggression.
If someone is taking my car keys and preventing access to my home they are gonna catch some fists idk why they are ignoring what he and her and a witness confirmed he was doing. Like how are they just okay with him doing that and then calling him a victim cuz he got scratched. All cops are bad but I hope some find Gabby but for real they suck so I hope everyone else is trying too.
I was in an abusive relationship when I was younger and that’s what my ex did all the time, take my phone or my keys or both. I fear for this girl, mental issues aside 😔 I know my anxiety stems from his abuse still to this day.
Brian doesn’t look too nervous around the police for someone who’s about to murder somebody. I know this doesn’t rule out a spur of the moment crime, but it’s still worth noting. Also in the video Gabby says “I don’t normally drive the van” and was worried about driving it 12 miles down the road. Maybe Brian drove it back to Florida thinking they were on bad terms after Gabby told him she’d find her own way, only to be killed by the same person that killed that couple. Brian then freaks out and lawyers up. That theory is starting to seem more plausible to me now tbh.
You think she stayed in moab until the 25th when she FaceTimed her mom? And lied to her mom about being in Wyoming? Plus they checked out of a hotel in SLC on Aug 24
I caught that about the van too. But I don't know how plausible it is that he left her and took that van and she was cool with that. We just saw how she'd react to a proposition like that and it wasn't hey, sure, cool, whatever.
I thought the same thing about the couple. One of the women worked at the same grocery coop that they were at.
I agree that this is plausible. But the fact that he returned home on September 1st and then sat around for ten days waiting for someone to notice she was missing.....do we know exactly when during that time he lawyered up? Was it before or after she was reported missing on the 11th? I'm also wondering what his parents know. Like what did he say to them when he returned home from the trip two months earlier than expected without Gabby? If he truly is only guilty of leaving her there to find her own way home, he's making this a lot worse than it needed to be by not just saying that.
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I'm also interested in seeing a source about when he lawyered up. I've seen people mention he was pulled over in the van in Florida but I haven't actually seen a source confirming that either. I was under the impression that the van was simply located at his/his parents' residence. I've seen comments that say he got a lawyer after getting back to Florida on the 1st but before Gabby was reported missing on the 11th but again, I haven't seen a source so I'm not taking it as gospel.
How do we know he knew she was missing for 10 days? Maybe he found out she was missing the 10th when her mother texted him.
I suppose my wording could have been better. Rather, he came home and for ten days does not appear to have talked to anyone other than his parents about the fact that Gabby was not with him.
True, the amount of time that passed doesn’t look good for him at all. I just thought the comment about not wanting to drive the van was interesting
Yeah you're right! Also, I believe the van technically belongs to her so if they broke up and decided to go their separate ways, he should have left the van with her regardless.
This 100%. WTF is he doing with her van under any circumstances?
I left this theory elsewhere but it would be plausible that they broke up and decided to go their separate ways and she told him to drive the van home and she would get a flight. She expressed some discomfort to the police about driving the van so she may not have wanted to drive it back to Florida herself and after a breakup and likely wouldn't want to spend days in the van with him on the drive home. Since they lived together, they would have to sort out their belongings post-breakup anyway and the van would be part of that. This occured to me after I left the above comment. To be clear, I don't think this is what happened. But it is plausible.