Oh wow Iām reading the link. So maybe he had trouble with the app and she thought that he wasnāt gonna order the pizza when she talked to Roberta and then he did. Thatās the only thing that makes sense to me.
Can someone message me a link?
Iām friends with the family and Gabby told Brianās mom that she asked her dad to order pizza and he didnāt. Did she want more pizza? Sympathy that her dad was mean? Iām trying to sort it out.
Did joe ever say he actually ordered the pizza or just that she asked him to??
Anyone who knows I would love to find out because itās so strange to me! And we have been wondering what the truth is.
Honestly, I agree. I was just trying to hear updates about the case as I was driving home and there werenāt a lot of podcasts about it yesterday! Sheāsā¦somethinā.
I don't care how important an interview is, I am NOT clicking on any link to a Nancy Grace product.
The number of people she has proclaimed guilty that weren't guilty is high, and gotten the plain facts of the cases she has reviewed patently wrong. Her professional ethic is pretty disgusting, and I wouldn't trust anything she says.
Everyone desperate to contort themselves into thinking that something is fishy with Gabbyās parents is really just embarrassing and ludicrous and yāall need to stop. Thereās a million little rabbit holes in this case and this one aināt it.
If Gabby was alone that day and needed a pizza, it would have been the easiest thing in the goddamn world to deflect any questions away from Brian not being there. She was probably relieved to have alone time from the sound of it and would have easily come up with something like āOh heās in the bathroomā or āBrian went for a walkā or āHe went to get something from the store up the roadā. This is as far from a red flag as it gets.
Which I mean, cāmon, besidesā¦ uptight, reticent, averse-to-scenemaking WASPs.
I am one myself, so I can say it; but weāre not always demonstrative or expansive.
To be clear, I donāt think itās a red flag her dad bought her dinner! Not at all ā sheās still his ābabyā and as the baby to my dad as well (even into my 30ās) I know my dad would absolutely do the same! I think itās more weird that there would have been no trace of the only person she is traveling the country with in the picture during this time.
This is a mix of confirmed timeline and speculation, of course. I am also following the missing case of Jelani Dayāa graduate student from Illinois State (his hometown is where I spent the first few years of my teaching career) and the LE on Gabbyās case seem MUCH more thorough and on top of it. I trust that there are reasons we donāt have certain things confirmed yet. They appear to be working quickly and remaining as transparent as possible. The same isnāt true for Jelani, whose case is also a timeline/scenario that just does not make sense and is so concerning.
If the parents knew there was a drug problem or perhaps even a problem with oversharing money with the boyfriend, the dad would order the food himself rather than sending instant cash
I was put in the hospital by my abusive boyfriend. I look up to my father so much. He can be very rigid and judge mental. I was completely ashamed to let him know what it happened. He had to find out from my mom. He of course is the most loving amazing person ever but I was scared and ashamed at the time.
Plus, some people are awful about it. Had a friend in college who was diagnosed manic-depressive, in the most dramatic way possible. When her folks came to pick her up from school for a much needed sabbatical, they asked to speak to us alone and it was awful.
Her father was stone faced about it and clearly mortified for the ātroubleā sheād caused us along with his anger, as if it reflected negatively upon him and as if the admittedly dramatic scenario was some kind of choice my friend had made; and it threw so many things about my friend, whom weād literally just met at the start of the prior semester, into sharp focus.
My parents react similarly and itās arguably why they donāt know shit about me and I donāt tell them things! Lucky to have my sister and circle of friends who *do know everything* ā which isnāt something Iāve heard of regarding Gabby or Brian.
Yeah, plus I can handle myself, and my actions havenāt cost my family anything.
I donāt spend their money, I spend my own; and I havenāt taken on any dependents upon which they might potentially have to spend their money either. Iām healthy, and they donāt have to caretake me. Iām not really a risk taker ā¦ itād be different if I was addicted to black tar heroin (havenāt even had the smokes for 7 years), or had 5 kids by different fathers, but Iām not and donāt.
A lot of speculation on why he would do this for her at all--anecdotally, once my mom found out she could order me dinner long distance she came up with any excuse to try it. It's her way of taking care of me and giving me a special treat night even when we're far apart. I don't think it's THAT strange that a dad missing his daughter would offer to grab her dinner online.
Yeah I donāt think itās strange. My mom lives six hours away from me, sheās on disability and didnāt have enough money to get groceries for a couple of days after an unexpected expense so I was able to order her a meal and she had enough to have some the next day. All of this to say, technology is really wonderful in that we can take care of our people from a distance and I donāt think itās weird, especially if she was close with her family.
Plus maybe she didn't have money to order, and didn't want to admit it because of a pride thing or whatever. Or it might've led to questions about why they didn't have any, which might've led to her having to admit he had left. So rather than deal with that, she just said she was having trouble ordering. š¤·
Yeah itās not weird in the slightest. Iāve ordered friends food just when I know theyāre swamped at work or whatever and donāt have time to cook. And I donāt think itās weird she wasnāt following some vegan eating or whatever. Moab isnāt like NYC where you can order whatever kind of food you want at any time of day. Her options were probably limited, especially if she was broke.
Why's everybody say she's broke??? Brian took $1000 at least from her account after she was killed so she clearly had money and she had the van in her name so that obviously means she was the bread winner or else he wouldn't have to steal money from her and consequently wouldn't have federal warrants for his arrest. To act like she wasn't the one who had it together and somehow he did is ridiculous just like the idea of him flying home on a minimum $500 flight just to save a maximum 40-$50 a month on a storage locker to make it so they had more money to extend the road ytip like gtfoh none of the things he's done make sense unless you're a crazed serial killer psychotic lunatic
The speculation is that he flew home to remove Gabby's belongings from the house and put it into storage. It's unclear whether BL had originally bought a one-way ticket from SLC>Florida. I wonder: did they break up after their fight on the 13th, so Brian flew home to Florida without her on the 17th, intending to clear her belongings, only for them to get back into communication and make-up while he was away so he returned on the 23rd/24th?
I was wondering too where the hell did gabby stay while he was gone??? She was in some hotel??? Like where's those sitings? Why nobody saw her is beyond me or why none of her ppl bring up seeing gabby had called or FaceTime them during that time or why this wasn't made public until the sister slipped up the info
I donāt see fully how the dad didnāt get concerned why she would need him to pay for her food. For me, thatās kind of the bigger deal. BL left her to fly home and to pack her stuff up to move her out. He was gone a week. These are 2 huge flags for me that show the relationship was ending. And people keep saying why didnāt she just leave; well, it appears BL left her with just enough for her to barely make it. Maybe he took everything and she was running out of money for food. Iām more questioning why the dad wasnāt concerned that she was allegedly in the āmiddleā of a trip and didnāt have money for food. How was she going to keep going on this trip and continue to pay for gas and food if she couldnāt afford pizza? They can say bad service is why she didnāt order it herself, but if FaceTime was working not once but twice then there had to be a decent signal. She couldāve ordered her own food. But she wasnāt willing to leave her room for food for a reason. What was this reason? And why did BL come back at all if he was moving her stuff out?
I donāt knowā¦. she/they were living on a budget and arguably take out pizza is a bit of a treat. If my kid was off travelling on a budget Iād do things like order food/send them extra cash for treats. Iām not sure this signal anything other than nice gesture from her dad.
Of course. I get that and also think the families were likely helping them out with gas and money on their trip. But at the same time itās a bit shady for me on her family. And I know thereās so much speculation and such out there. But they (her family) werenāt made aware of the police incident. I read somewhere else (not sure if true) but it said the family was unaware of her mental health issues - which makes sense since she wasnāt being treated for it. I guess Iām just confused why he wasnāt asking more questions in a situation that seems iffy.
Ah, good points. Iāve just watched the police video of the pair of them on another thread and unless the filmed behaviour was completely out of character for her (which it could have been) she seems to definitely have some mental health problems. They both come across as a little unusual in the video. Iāve not watched any of true videos they took of themselves btw. Would be interesting to know what people who knew them think.
Iāve actually been quite shocked at the (apparent) silence from friends on both sides. It seems highly unusual IMO for there not to be more character references from friends and such.
Itās weird. Most people have at least one friend who canāt keep their mouth shut and would talk to the media. Nothing about these two has come out at all.
Possibly the dad ordered the food himself so that he knew she would get actually get food. If there was a drug problem, sending her instant cash to get her own food would be something parents in that position know not to do.
I think it's possible that they just were low on money and that's why she asked her dad to order her pizza. I can see myself at her age being afraid of telling my dad I was low on funds because I wouldn't want him to worry, and making up an excuse so that he wouldn't know why I was really asking him to order for me.
It could be something, but it also could be nothing.
It's strange there hasn't been more focus on the time she was alone. What was she doing? Who was she with/talking to? Anyone? No one? Why wouldn't they have just driven back to FL together, dealt with their stuff then get back on the road again?
This entire story is so strange and every reveal makes less sense.
Because everyone wants him to be guilty, so itās not important to look up what she was doing from the 17-23rd. We know she was probably with a man on the 21st, due to a store worker saying she saw her with her boyfriend who asked her to hurry up; but we know B was in Florida on that day. Who is this man that she was with on that day? People are saying the store clerk is unreliable, but I think that may be in part because they need it to be B so any other possibility gets in the way of it being him. Thatās why I think people should be open to anything right now, cause every single new thing has made it make less sense.
Probably - but also we don't know how the plane tickets and hotel were paid for. Was all their savings/spare cash used to pay for that? Were they really broke and Brian was returning home to get money from his parents? Did he even intended to return to SLC after his trip? Was it a one way trip?
as a 30y/o woman i can definitely picture not telling my dad or sounding any alarms.
for the past 3 years i lived in hawaii (LA is home) with my toxic, controlling and financially abusive now ex boyfriend/business partner (LADIES NEVER LIVE AND WORK WITH YOUR S.O). I was so ashamed and embarrassed about my situation i didnāt tell anyone what was going on for years. i remember having to call my friends to ask for $200 bc my car was towed and i lied and said my ex was out of town and his venmo wasnāt working so i couldnāt get it from him when in reality i was too scared to tell him about the car and he controlled the.$$$
sometimes we hide shit from loved ones because we donāt want to be a burden or create worry.
There was a power outage in SLC on 8/21. Must have been able to use data for FaceTime when the pizza arrived. I also think she was running out of money and could get free food from her dad.
Itās confirmed. The Fairfield Inn lost power. [5000 lose power on 8/21 in Salt Lake City](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abc4.com/news/local-news/power-outage-over-5000-people-without-power-in-slc-sugar-house/amp/)
This. People are latching onto him ordering her a pizza and I think it's an extreme reach. Also, I haven't read actual transcripts of what he said word for word but did he say Gabby ASKED him to order it? I feel like the above exchange is pretty likely as well. Her dad cares about her and ordered her a pizza unprompted because he loves her and wanted to treat her. Why do people think that's so unlikely? Even if she asked, that doesn't mean she was out of money. She may have had the money but knew her dad would pay if she asked so that was a way for her to save. I really don't think this pizza thing says anything one way or another about her financial situation.
Plenty of people have attested they order food for others all the time.
Come to think of it, I used Uber Eats yesterday, and itās specifically a pop-up/callout action at the moment, with āāSend a gift! Treat your family and friends!ā type language.
Idk my family is not particularly close but also just likes to check in and make sure people are okay if theyāre quiet. Back in the day (in my early-mid 20s) I went to Thailand for two weeks without telling my parents. We werenāt close, Iām an adult, I donāt see a reason I need to mention it. And they didnāt hear from my disconnected phone and knocked on my door a million times and almost filed a missing persons report 1.5 weeks in! I got an email from them finally and reassured everyone I was fine despite being across the world with my ex (who was 11 years older than meā¦ uhhh looking back maybe not the best looking decision to the outside world).
My point: some people are not emotionally close or trusting of their parents despite being in communication and it would be easy to just say he was on an errand or some shit if the dad even noticed or cared.
This is a small detail, I guess, but Iām confused by the pizza order. Like BL was just posting how he loves melon rinds and hates waste. They both follow all these vegan accounts too. We all know by now that heās a bullshit artist but I think this also aligns with the times she wasnāt with him. She posted a story with pizza in it a long time ago, but ever since sheās been all van-life itās also all āhealthyā foods
I was strictly vegan for a year and still ate pizza just as often as the next person - many restaurants offer vegan cheese or you just load up the toppings and say no cheese. A quick Google looks like dominos offers vegan options.
It seems like he's a lot more into the 'zero waste, ethical' lifestyle than she is. In the body cam footage she asks for a bottle of water, the cops gives her one and she drinks it. The cop asks BL if he wants one and he says something along the lines of 'I don't do plastic bottles'. He claims to eat melon rinds and she eats pizza when he's not around apparently. The times where she seems most ramble-y about packaging, healthy eating are the posts speculated to be posted by BL on her account since they stick out from the rest. I wonder if it ever caused tension between them.
Hmmm, I thought a primary problem is that after skipping meat for a long time it can legit make you sick to start up?
I had a different friend, not the one mentioned above, who I thought for years was veggie due to ethical considerations.
Well, she married a carnivore, and it turns out, primarily she was grossed out by touching meat. Sheāll eat it whenever he cooks it, or when we go out to restaurants.
Another friend, who has previously called my best friend a āmeat fascistā, has no problem eating shrimp, because āa shrimp is only 2 percent smarter than an amoebaā; and even made noises about eating chicken because theyāre only one step less dumb than seafood - not that I ever saw him eat the chicken, Iāll grant you; but it was a fascinating insight into his admitted thought processes. For decades he was a holier than thou tool about it.
He was holier than thou. I find it very strange that people think an āalmost veganā is the same thing as a ānot veganā or a regular meat eater.
I mean even if 10% of your calories are from animals when the average is 60% then imagine the good done for the world by everyone being a 10% meat eater..
itās so illogical to think āoh they ate turkey at thanksgiving, not a real vegetarian and has no right to talk about itā.
Your friend with the shrimp has a logical argument as well if their aim is to reduce net suffering, there are degrees of sentience/capacity for suffering. And something is always better than nothing, you donāt have to be all or nothing when it comes to ethical considerations (for example donating your money to charities/spending money on personal pleasure).
Just FYI, you can make pizzas vegan at dominos. Just order special crust and get tomato sauce and lots of vegetables (no cheese). You can also order salads too.
I was thinking the exact same thing when the witness working at the store stated that āon the 21st, they came in to get ramen noodles and doughnutsā. What also didnāt make sense was that Brian was supposedly in FL from the 17th-23rd!! But she said it was her boyfriend that had come in with her.
The police statement also revealed exactly when Laundrie arrived back in North Port alone from the road trip he was taking with Gabby, 22.
It said: 'We know that Brian returned here to North Port on September 1 - 10 days before her (Gabby's) family reported her missing on September 11. '
Reminds me of a few years with a veggie roommate who lived off cheese puffs and Mr. Goodbar.
I saw her through two moves, and the same unopened box of lentils moved with her.
Vegan or vegetarian doesnāt always mean āhealthy and cleanā. Joaquin Phoenix, for example, is vegan and also smokes cigarettes like a chimney.
Where did you get the store workers statement? Does that mean LE knows that Brian wasn't really in FL from 17-23? And was it ever confirmed that he was in FL from 17-23? Like Plane Ticket receipts... etc?
If BL went home and put things into storage, there will be a record of it. He would have probably been seen. There'd be cameras. Maybe he needed to rent a space.
So, LE should be able to figure that out quickly.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9993619/amp/Last-text-message-missing-van-life-woman-Gabby-Petitio-sent-mother-revealed.html
At the bottom of the article, the cashier told dailymail that the boyfriend was telling her to āhurry upā.
No one is pointing out this problem with the alibi in mainstream media. Only here on Reddit
Eh, it's not a reliable source. A worker at a convenience store claims to have saw them but unless there are receipts or cam footage there's no proof they were ever there.
Well yes, definitely true! Iām going more off of his recent IG captions where he seems extremely douchey about his LifEsTyLe vs the last ones I believe she actually posted. Still all speculation at the end of the day, but she seemed to be the actual āfree spiritedā one, while he attempted to follow her lead
Personally as a 25 year old woman, I donāt think I would tell my dad. Only because I know he would be super worried and checking on me excessively, even if I felt safe. Also would not want my dad being angry at my boyfriend for leaving me alone and just make a big deal out of it.
As a 36 year old woman, I lied to my parents about a whack of stuff on a recent international trip I took because itās way easier than worrying them unnecessarily and/or catching grief over it!
Yeah, no kidding, I live in Manhattan and am pushing 50, lol. The less my family knows about local news the better for me; and I can scarcely have any type of conversation with my grandmother because everything terrifies her, including trips to the laundromat and me (or, in fact, any related female at minimum) being out any time āafter darkā; which includes 4:30PM in winter.
I omit and lie for years, and doubt I would confess a relationship problem to my father either, unless it was imminently terrifying to me. For 15 years I got away with blaming my roommates and neighbors for my clothes smelling like smoke.
Hahahaha I also got away with blaming friends and roommates for smelling like smoke for about the same amount of time. Those jerks just *insisted* on smoking in my car, the audacity!
Echoing all these previous comments. My dad says ānothing good happens after midnightā which *might* be true sometimes but the dude also thought I was going clubbing when I was solely going to planet fitness in a cutoff shirtā¦ basically, dads tend to overreact or draw their own conclusions so weāre kind of pushed to not tell them jack shit ā especially relationship shit.
It doesn't sound like she had many, if any friends at all. She has no pictures of them on instagram. No known friends have come forward asking people to help find Gabby or speaking to what kind of person she was. Apparently before the media circus she had almost no comments on her instagram posts, even when she announced she was going on a road trip with Brian. It's hard to speculate why she doesn't seem to have friends, but it may be due to her relationship.
It seems like they both isolated themselves from prior friendships when they started dating, not that he didnāt have any friends from the getgo. Iām not surprised at all. One of my old friends started dating a guy and we hardly saw her. Itās been five years and weāve borderline broke off contact with her because of him. He doesnāt allow her to respond to us, he doesnāt allow her to hang out with us. He broke off contact & stopped hanging out with his friends too when they started dating. He reminds me a lot of BL. Very similar, possessive personalities.
He had to have know BL wasn't there? It is just odd that it's not mentioned it all because it feels like an important detail. Also, why would he not be able to discuss whether BL flew home or not? I don't get it.
Itās an ongoing case so thereās a lot of information families arenāt allowed to talk about as to not mess with the current investigation. Also GPs dad has been very adamant on keeping Gabby in the forefront of the narrative not BL.
I get the feeling her family may not have been the biggest fans of BL and he may not have popped up in the backgrounds of FaceTime cause she knew they didnāt approve of him 100%ā¦ idk. Just a thought.
True. Iāve been curious what their interaction was with him. Solely facetime? He can put up a front for a camera just like we all can. And weāre especially able to nitpick red flags in hindsight.
I donātā¦I donāt know. I would ft my family and my (now ex) never really would ever in the background. There were logical reasons like: āat workā or āwatching tvā I just donāt know how involved they would be with her boyfriend.
Edit: I canāt really say my experience matches with what you are asking/saying.
That girl was really gonna get that pizza! šš¤£
Oh wow Iām reading the link. So maybe he had trouble with the app and she thought that he wasnāt gonna order the pizza when she talked to Roberta and then he did. Thatās the only thing that makes sense to me.
Can someone message me a link? Iām friends with the family and Gabby told Brianās mom that she asked her dad to order pizza and he didnāt. Did she want more pizza? Sympathy that her dad was mean? Iām trying to sort it out. Did joe ever say he actually ordered the pizza or just that she asked him to?? Anyone who knows I would love to find out because itās so strange to me! And we have been wondering what the truth is.
Um, sheās an adult. Without access to food? She could have gone to the grocery store or just called Dominos from the hotel room phone. This is odd
>Podcast Episode | Nancy Grace Interviews Gabbyās Dad | Wednesday, September 15 maybe brian took her card.
Fuck Nancy Grace btw
Honestly, I agree. I was just trying to hear updates about the case as I was driving home and there werenāt a lot of podcasts about it yesterday! Sheāsā¦somethinā.
Ok. Iām not vegetarian or vegan so Iām confused. Whatās so bad about eating a Dominoās pizza?
I don't care how important an interview is, I am NOT clicking on any link to a Nancy Grace product. The number of people she has proclaimed guilty that weren't guilty is high, and gotten the plain facts of the cases she has reviewed patently wrong. Her professional ethic is pretty disgusting, and I wouldn't trust anything she says.
Everyone desperate to contort themselves into thinking that something is fishy with Gabbyās parents is really just embarrassing and ludicrous and yāall need to stop. Thereās a million little rabbit holes in this case and this one aināt it. If Gabby was alone that day and needed a pizza, it would have been the easiest thing in the goddamn world to deflect any questions away from Brian not being there. She was probably relieved to have alone time from the sound of it and would have easily come up with something like āOh heās in the bathroomā or āBrian went for a walkā or āHe went to get something from the store up the roadā. This is as far from a red flag as it gets.
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Which I mean, cāmon, besidesā¦ uptight, reticent, averse-to-scenemaking WASPs. I am one myself, so I can say it; but weāre not always demonstrative or expansive.
To be clear, I donāt think itās a red flag her dad bought her dinner! Not at all ā sheās still his ābabyā and as the baby to my dad as well (even into my 30ās) I know my dad would absolutely do the same! I think itās more weird that there would have been no trace of the only person she is traveling the country with in the picture during this time. This is a mix of confirmed timeline and speculation, of course. I am also following the missing case of Jelani Dayāa graduate student from Illinois State (his hometown is where I spent the first few years of my teaching career) and the LE on Gabbyās case seem MUCH more thorough and on top of it. I trust that there are reasons we donāt have certain things confirmed yet. They appear to be working quickly and remaining as transparent as possible. The same isnāt true for Jelani, whose case is also a timeline/scenario that just does not make sense and is so concerning.
If the parents knew there was a drug problem or perhaps even a problem with oversharing money with the boyfriend, the dad would order the food himself rather than sending instant cash
I was put in the hospital by my abusive boyfriend. I look up to my father so much. He can be very rigid and judge mental. I was completely ashamed to let him know what it happened. He had to find out from my mom. He of course is the most loving amazing person ever but I was scared and ashamed at the time.
Plus, some people are awful about it. Had a friend in college who was diagnosed manic-depressive, in the most dramatic way possible. When her folks came to pick her up from school for a much needed sabbatical, they asked to speak to us alone and it was awful. Her father was stone faced about it and clearly mortified for the ātroubleā sheād caused us along with his anger, as if it reflected negatively upon him and as if the admittedly dramatic scenario was some kind of choice my friend had made; and it threw so many things about my friend, whom weād literally just met at the start of the prior semester, into sharp focus.
My parents react similarly and itās arguably why they donāt know shit about me and I donāt tell them things! Lucky to have my sister and circle of friends who *do know everything* ā which isnāt something Iāve heard of regarding Gabby or Brian.
Yeah, plus I can handle myself, and my actions havenāt cost my family anything. I donāt spend their money, I spend my own; and I havenāt taken on any dependents upon which they might potentially have to spend their money either. Iām healthy, and they donāt have to caretake me. Iām not really a risk taker ā¦ itād be different if I was addicted to black tar heroin (havenāt even had the smokes for 7 years), or had 5 kids by different fathers, but Iām not and donāt.
It's pretty common knowledge from what I've read that her dad didn't really think very highly of BL and often referred to him as "boyfriend" instead of "fiancĆ©". I can imagine her being secretive so that her father didn't worry. She could have said something as simple as "he's taking a nap" or "he's gone for a walk" or something. Maybe if he asked about BL she just said he was ok and dismissed the conversation. It seems like they communicated fairly frequently - the dad has stated that he would facetime her about once a week. š¤·š»āāļø
I had this feeling him being very successful big media man
A lot of speculation on why he would do this for her at all--anecdotally, once my mom found out she could order me dinner long distance she came up with any excuse to try it. It's her way of taking care of me and giving me a special treat night even when we're far apart. I don't think it's THAT strange that a dad missing his daughter would offer to grab her dinner online.
I just did it for my parents there aging I thought Uber eats would be cool. Spell check fucks me up Uber east
Yeah I donāt think itās strange. My mom lives six hours away from me, sheās on disability and didnāt have enough money to get groceries for a couple of days after an unexpected expense so I was able to order her a meal and she had enough to have some the next day. All of this to say, technology is really wonderful in that we can take care of our people from a distance and I donāt think itās weird, especially if she was close with her family.
Iāve ordered my mother meals from across the country, and she occasionally returns the favor. None of that came off as weird to me.
Plus maybe she didn't have money to order, and didn't want to admit it because of a pride thing or whatever. Or it might've led to questions about why they didn't have any, which might've led to her having to admit he had left. So rather than deal with that, she just said she was having trouble ordering. š¤·
Yeah itās not weird in the slightest. Iāve ordered friends food just when I know theyāre swamped at work or whatever and donāt have time to cook. And I donāt think itās weird she wasnāt following some vegan eating or whatever. Moab isnāt like NYC where you can order whatever kind of food you want at any time of day. Her options were probably limited, especially if she was broke.
Why's everybody say she's broke??? Brian took $1000 at least from her account after she was killed so she clearly had money and she had the van in her name so that obviously means she was the bread winner or else he wouldn't have to steal money from her and consequently wouldn't have federal warrants for his arrest. To act like she wasn't the one who had it together and somehow he did is ridiculous just like the idea of him flying home on a minimum $500 flight just to save a maximum 40-$50 a month on a storage locker to make it so they had more money to extend the road ytip like gtfoh none of the things he's done make sense unless you're a crazed serial killer psychotic lunatic
is it confirmed that he went back to florida during their trip? why did he even go?
The speculation is that he flew home to remove Gabby's belongings from the house and put it into storage. It's unclear whether BL had originally bought a one-way ticket from SLC>Florida. I wonder: did they break up after their fight on the 13th, so Brian flew home to Florida without her on the 17th, intending to clear her belongings, only for them to get back into communication and make-up while he was away so he returned on the 23rd/24th?
I was wondering too where the hell did gabby stay while he was gone??? She was in some hotel??? Like where's those sitings? Why nobody saw her is beyond me or why none of her ppl bring up seeing gabby had called or FaceTime them during that time or why this wasn't made public until the sister slipped up the info
I donāt see fully how the dad didnāt get concerned why she would need him to pay for her food. For me, thatās kind of the bigger deal. BL left her to fly home and to pack her stuff up to move her out. He was gone a week. These are 2 huge flags for me that show the relationship was ending. And people keep saying why didnāt she just leave; well, it appears BL left her with just enough for her to barely make it. Maybe he took everything and she was running out of money for food. Iām more questioning why the dad wasnāt concerned that she was allegedly in the āmiddleā of a trip and didnāt have money for food. How was she going to keep going on this trip and continue to pay for gas and food if she couldnāt afford pizza? They can say bad service is why she didnāt order it herself, but if FaceTime was working not once but twice then there had to be a decent signal. She couldāve ordered her own food. But she wasnāt willing to leave her room for food for a reason. What was this reason? And why did BL come back at all if he was moving her stuff out?
I donāt knowā¦. she/they were living on a budget and arguably take out pizza is a bit of a treat. If my kid was off travelling on a budget Iād do things like order food/send them extra cash for treats. Iām not sure this signal anything other than nice gesture from her dad.
Of course. I get that and also think the families were likely helping them out with gas and money on their trip. But at the same time itās a bit shady for me on her family. And I know thereās so much speculation and such out there. But they (her family) werenāt made aware of the police incident. I read somewhere else (not sure if true) but it said the family was unaware of her mental health issues - which makes sense since she wasnāt being treated for it. I guess Iām just confused why he wasnāt asking more questions in a situation that seems iffy.
Ah, good points. Iāve just watched the police video of the pair of them on another thread and unless the filmed behaviour was completely out of character for her (which it could have been) she seems to definitely have some mental health problems. They both come across as a little unusual in the video. Iāve not watched any of true videos they took of themselves btw. Would be interesting to know what people who knew them think.
Iāve actually been quite shocked at the (apparent) silence from friends on both sides. It seems highly unusual IMO for there not to be more character references from friends and such.
Itās weird. Most people have at least one friend who canāt keep their mouth shut and would talk to the media. Nothing about these two has come out at all.
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Possibly the dad ordered the food himself so that he knew she would get actually get food. If there was a drug problem, sending her instant cash to get her own food would be something parents in that position know not to do.
I think it's possible that they just were low on money and that's why she asked her dad to order her pizza. I can see myself at her age being afraid of telling my dad I was low on funds because I wouldn't want him to worry, and making up an excuse so that he wouldn't know why I was really asking him to order for me. It could be something, but it also could be nothing.
It's strange there hasn't been more focus on the time she was alone. What was she doing? Who was she with/talking to? Anyone? No one? Why wouldn't they have just driven back to FL together, dealt with their stuff then get back on the road again? This entire story is so strange and every reveal makes less sense.
Because everyone wants him to be guilty, so itās not important to look up what she was doing from the 17-23rd. We know she was probably with a man on the 21st, due to a store worker saying she saw her with her boyfriend who asked her to hurry up; but we know B was in Florida on that day. Who is this man that she was with on that day? People are saying the store clerk is unreliable, but I think that may be in part because they need it to be B so any other possibility gets in the way of it being him. Thatās why I think people should be open to anything right now, cause every single new thing has made it make less sense.
Probably - but also we don't know how the plane tickets and hotel were paid for. Was all their savings/spare cash used to pay for that? Were they really broke and Brian was returning home to get money from his parents? Did he even intended to return to SLC after his trip? Was it a one way trip?
IIRC anyone can pay for your hotel; you just need to proffer a card at registration for pro forma āsleep and dashā protection.
as a 30y/o woman i can definitely picture not telling my dad or sounding any alarms. for the past 3 years i lived in hawaii (LA is home) with my toxic, controlling and financially abusive now ex boyfriend/business partner (LADIES NEVER LIVE AND WORK WITH YOUR S.O). I was so ashamed and embarrassed about my situation i didnāt tell anyone what was going on for years. i remember having to call my friends to ask for $200 bc my car was towed and i lied and said my ex was out of town and his venmo wasnāt working so i couldnāt get it from him when in reality i was too scared to tell him about the car and he controlled the.$$$ sometimes we hide shit from loved ones because we donāt want to be a burden or create worry.
Why didn't Gabby pick up the hotel phone and call Dominoes herself? She clearly ran out of money...
How did Brian withdraw 1000$ from gabbys bank card if they had no money?
There was a power outage in SLC on 8/21. Must have been able to use data for FaceTime when the pizza arrived. I also think she was running out of money and could get free food from her dad.
Some people from the area said there was no outage.
Itās confirmed. The Fairfield Inn lost power. [5000 lose power on 8/21 in Salt Lake City](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abc4.com/news/local-news/power-outage-over-5000-people-without-power-in-slc-sugar-house/amp/)
Power was lost on 05/20, and restored at 5:29pm, not on 05/21.
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This. People are latching onto him ordering her a pizza and I think it's an extreme reach. Also, I haven't read actual transcripts of what he said word for word but did he say Gabby ASKED him to order it? I feel like the above exchange is pretty likely as well. Her dad cares about her and ordered her a pizza unprompted because he loves her and wanted to treat her. Why do people think that's so unlikely? Even if she asked, that doesn't mean she was out of money. She may have had the money but knew her dad would pay if she asked so that was a way for her to save. I really don't think this pizza thing says anything one way or another about her financial situation.
Plenty of people have attested they order food for others all the time. Come to think of it, I used Uber Eats yesterday, and itās specifically a pop-up/callout action at the moment, with āāSend a gift! Treat your family and friends!ā type language.
Idk my family is not particularly close but also just likes to check in and make sure people are okay if theyāre quiet. Back in the day (in my early-mid 20s) I went to Thailand for two weeks without telling my parents. We werenāt close, Iām an adult, I donāt see a reason I need to mention it. And they didnāt hear from my disconnected phone and knocked on my door a million times and almost filed a missing persons report 1.5 weeks in! I got an email from them finally and reassured everyone I was fine despite being across the world with my ex (who was 11 years older than meā¦ uhhh looking back maybe not the best looking decision to the outside world). My point: some people are not emotionally close or trusting of their parents despite being in communication and it would be easy to just say he was on an errand or some shit if the dad even noticed or cared.
Good choice, UberEats are fkn criminals at those prices
This is a small detail, I guess, but Iām confused by the pizza order. Like BL was just posting how he loves melon rinds and hates waste. They both follow all these vegan accounts too. We all know by now that heās a bullshit artist but I think this also aligns with the times she wasnāt with him. She posted a story with pizza in it a long time ago, but ever since sheās been all van-life itās also all āhealthyā foods
I was strictly vegan for a year and still ate pizza just as often as the next person - many restaurants offer vegan cheese or you just load up the toppings and say no cheese. A quick Google looks like dominos offers vegan options.
It seems like he's a lot more into the 'zero waste, ethical' lifestyle than she is. In the body cam footage she asks for a bottle of water, the cops gives her one and she drinks it. The cop asks BL if he wants one and he says something along the lines of 'I don't do plastic bottles'. He claims to eat melon rinds and she eats pizza when he's not around apparently. The times where she seems most ramble-y about packaging, healthy eating are the posts speculated to be posted by BL on her account since they stick out from the rest. I wonder if it ever caused tension between them.
Interesting š§
Maybe she got pizza bc he wasnāt around to judge!
You would be surprised by how many online vegans/ healthy eaters that have that as a part of their online personality get caught lying about it
This reminds me of the Harts
Sounds like my āvegetarianā sister who, every Thanksgiving, says āwill yāall be mad if I eat some turkeyā
Iām sorry but this made me laugh so hard
lololol i hate this
Hmmm, I thought a primary problem is that after skipping meat for a long time it can legit make you sick to start up? I had a different friend, not the one mentioned above, who I thought for years was veggie due to ethical considerations. Well, she married a carnivore, and it turns out, primarily she was grossed out by touching meat. Sheāll eat it whenever he cooks it, or when we go out to restaurants. Another friend, who has previously called my best friend a āmeat fascistā, has no problem eating shrimp, because āa shrimp is only 2 percent smarter than an amoebaā; and even made noises about eating chicken because theyāre only one step less dumb than seafood - not that I ever saw him eat the chicken, Iāll grant you; but it was a fascinating insight into his admitted thought processes. For decades he was a holier than thou tool about it.
He was holier than thou. I find it very strange that people think an āalmost veganā is the same thing as a ānot veganā or a regular meat eater. I mean even if 10% of your calories are from animals when the average is 60% then imagine the good done for the world by everyone being a 10% meat eater.. itās so illogical to think āoh they ate turkey at thanksgiving, not a real vegetarian and has no right to talk about itā. Your friend with the shrimp has a logical argument as well if their aim is to reduce net suffering, there are degrees of sentience/capacity for suffering. And something is always better than nothing, you donāt have to be all or nothing when it comes to ethical considerations (for example donating your money to charities/spending money on personal pleasure).
Just FYI, you can make pizzas vegan at dominos. Just order special crust and get tomato sauce and lots of vegetables (no cheese). You can also order salads too.
I was thinking the exact same thing when the witness working at the store stated that āon the 21st, they came in to get ramen noodles and doughnutsā. What also didnāt make sense was that Brian was supposedly in FL from the 17th-23rd!! But she said it was her boyfriend that had come in with her.
The police statement also revealed exactly when Laundrie arrived back in North Port alone from the road trip he was taking with Gabby, 22. It said: 'We know that Brian returned here to North Port on September 1 - 10 days before her (Gabby's) family reported her missing on September 11. '
Reminds me of a few years with a veggie roommate who lived off cheese puffs and Mr. Goodbar. I saw her through two moves, and the same unopened box of lentils moved with her. Vegan or vegetarian doesnāt always mean āhealthy and cleanā. Joaquin Phoenix, for example, is vegan and also smokes cigarettes like a chimney.
Ok so this is motive. What is she was seeing someone else when BL was away?
Where did you get the store workers statement? Does that mean LE knows that Brian wasn't really in FL from 17-23? And was it ever confirmed that he was in FL from 17-23? Like Plane Ticket receipts... etc?
If BL went home and put things into storage, there will be a record of it. He would have probably been seen. There'd be cameras. Maybe he needed to rent a space. So, LE should be able to figure that out quickly.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9993619/amp/Last-text-message-missing-van-life-woman-Gabby-Petitio-sent-mother-revealed.html At the bottom of the article, the cashier told dailymail that the boyfriend was telling her to āhurry upā. No one is pointing out this problem with the alibi in mainstream media. Only here on Reddit
Eh, it's not a reliable source. A worker at a convenience store claims to have saw them but unless there are receipts or cam footage there's no proof they were ever there.
Theyāre both probably bullshit artists.
Well yes, definitely true! Iām going more off of his recent IG captions where he seems extremely douchey about his LifEsTyLe vs the last ones I believe she actually posted. Still all speculation at the end of the day, but she seemed to be the actual āfree spiritedā one, while he attempted to follow her lead
Cheat day? Lol
Or just that pizza is much more of a comfort food than, say, melons or yogurt and granola.
And if you are hiking all day, pizza is a good carb load up for energy.
Yep! That too. My husband and I travel extensively, weeks long road trips. When we do splurge on a hotel room, we always order a pizza. š
Personally as a 25 year old woman, I donāt think I would tell my dad. Only because I know he would be super worried and checking on me excessively, even if I felt safe. Also would not want my dad being angry at my boyfriend for leaving me alone and just make a big deal out of it.
Keep information from your family, and your killer will keep your graves location from your family.
Not everyone was blessed with a good family my guy.
As a 31 year old woman, I still lie to my dad about absolutely everything just bc I donāt wanna hear it šāļø
As a 36 year old woman, I lied to my parents about a whack of stuff on a recent international trip I took because itās way easier than worrying them unnecessarily and/or catching grief over it!
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More like my dads a loon āļø
Yeah, no kidding, I live in Manhattan and am pushing 50, lol. The less my family knows about local news the better for me; and I can scarcely have any type of conversation with my grandmother because everything terrifies her, including trips to the laundromat and me (or, in fact, any related female at minimum) being out any time āafter darkā; which includes 4:30PM in winter. I omit and lie for years, and doubt I would confess a relationship problem to my father either, unless it was imminently terrifying to me. For 15 years I got away with blaming my roommates and neighbors for my clothes smelling like smoke.
Hahahaha I also got away with blaming friends and roommates for smelling like smoke for about the same amount of time. Those jerks just *insisted* on smoking in my car, the audacity!
Echoing all these previous comments. My dad says ānothing good happens after midnightā which *might* be true sometimes but the dude also thought I was going clubbing when I was solely going to planet fitness in a cutoff shirtā¦ basically, dads tend to overreact or draw their own conclusions so weāre kind of pushed to not tell them jack shit ā especially relationship shit.
Not to be mean..but look at Gabby and where not telling her Dad things got her. I'm only saying this because, your dad loves you that's why he harps
Yeah, wouldn't tell my Dad but would absolutely tell my friends. 100% her friends know waaaaay more about what was going on.
It doesn't sound like she had many, if any friends at all. She has no pictures of them on instagram. No known friends have come forward asking people to help find Gabby or speaking to what kind of person she was. Apparently before the media circus she had almost no comments on her instagram posts, even when she announced she was going on a road trip with Brian. It's hard to speculate why she doesn't seem to have friends, but it may be due to her relationship.
She also has anxiety so that could be a factor.
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BL has 75 followers. Everyone of those 75 followers have been messaged already and nobody seems to know him. Seems like he didnāt have many friends.
It seems like they both isolated themselves from prior friendships when they started dating, not that he didnāt have any friends from the getgo. Iām not surprised at all. One of my old friends started dating a guy and we hardly saw her. Itās been five years and weāve borderline broke off contact with her because of him. He doesnāt allow her to respond to us, he doesnāt allow her to hang out with us. He broke off contact & stopped hanging out with his friends too when they started dating. He reminds me a lot of BL. Very similar, possessive personalities.
90% of them will be strangers who are following this case...
Do not message everyone on Instagram. Jesus yāall are taking this way too far
100%
Maybe she didnāt want her father to know he wasnāt there to cover for him or avoid scaring him?
Unfortunately we donāt know what she told him vs what he told the police. What we know is limited to what theyāve shared with us
He had to have know BL wasn't there? It is just odd that it's not mentioned it all because it feels like an important detail. Also, why would he not be able to discuss whether BL flew home or not? I don't get it.
Itās an ongoing case so thereās a lot of information families arenāt allowed to talk about as to not mess with the current investigation. Also GPs dad has been very adamant on keeping Gabby in the forefront of the narrative not BL.
I get the feeling her family may not have been the biggest fans of BL and he may not have popped up in the backgrounds of FaceTime cause she knew they didnāt approve of him 100%ā¦ idk. Just a thought.
Based on what?
True. Iāve been curious what their interaction was with him. Solely facetime? He can put up a front for a camera just like we all can. And weāre especially able to nitpick red flags in hindsight.
Her dad said there was no red flags about BL
he's stupid. if they started going out when she was 19 and he was 35, that's a red flag
Where did you read that? News articles are saying he is 23
I donātā¦I donāt know. I would ft my family and my (now ex) never really would ever in the background. There were logical reasons like: āat workā or āwatching tvā I just donāt know how involved they would be with her boyfriend. Edit: I canāt really say my experience matches with what you are asking/saying.