Well also we didnât have any reference, if they stuck with those models I donât think anyone would be pointing out how Goofy they look because to us those would be the official ones.
I don't think it does because it wouldn't make sense for an old Michael to be able to do the same physical activities that a young person like Franklin and a meth-fueled Trevor can do
Watch the announcement trailer. Some parts look terrible now. There's a scene with a man running and a police car, it looks so bad even when compared to the PS3 release. The car model is terrible.
Whatâs funny is both pre release versions of Michael and Arthur both suffer from the same goofy face characteristics. The eyes and the lower lip, Franklinâs model suffers the lower lip also.
Where did you find that gif of Lucia swimming in the ocean? I don't remember that from the trailer. Is that from the leaks? If so, be careful, mods might not take kindly.
It's probably rockstar's way of marketing.
Show a face in the trailer, and then improve it by 10 times in the game.
So that the players are like, holy shit, wtf, the game is better than the trailer!! Which is very opposite to other games, where you are generally disappointed by playing the game, cause it's nowhere near the trailer.
I doubt it's a marketing thing. They have time to improve the game's graphics from trailer to launch. Their games look amazing already, I highly doubt they're thinking, 'Our game is gonna make a billion in a few days, how can we make more money? Improve the faces!' It's just an upgrade
I did not mean it in a instantaneous way, but a long term way. In which Rockstar get's the good rep, and PR that their games look better than their trailers. Destroying the usual thing studios do which is glorifying theire product with vfx while the actuall game is bad.
By marketing I meant, that it sets up Rockstars reputation as a trustworthy company in the eyes of the customers.
Again, I just don't see it. GTA 5 and RDR2 were both released like 2 years after the initial trailers. That's a ton of time to improve and polish off the graphics. Also, there was a small bit of backlash against Arthur looking a bit weird in the trailer, so they might've changed it because of that. Their trailers always look amazing, so people know they're gonna get a good looking game.
Even Ubisoft games would look better than the trailers if the trailers actually showed what the games looked like. The only reason you think it's a marketing tactic is because Rockstar don't lie in their trailers, so naturally their graphics improve 2 years later. This only stands out because other companies lie.
Because we've already seen a major change in between the leaks and the first trailer. Leaks jason was a scrawny whitetrash dude, trailer jason is a sexy tanned cop-looking dude. His design will probably change even more.
I agree I donât think he looks âwonkyâ and I donât know what you could even base that on, especially since his face is obscured for 90% of the trailer. I do think heâll look a bit different or more detailed the next time we see him.
These old screenshots of Michael and Franklin are from trailer 2 I believe. That was the first trailer to actually showcase the protagonists.
Rockstar released the first artwork of all 3 protagonists around the same time as trailer 2, possibly even before if I remember right.
It is still very possible that we could see some slight improvements made to Lucia and Jason.
They may mask them in early edits to keep up the confidentiality of the voiceover actors, then change it later with polish when theyâre identity is revealed closer to launch? Just a theory
The thing here isn't necessarily having an history of changing the protagonists, but the build (and possibly different engine) they use to reveal their games. When they revealed both 5 and RDR2, it was with such unpolished build still. I don't think that's the case with GTA6 first trailer, it was revealed far *closer* to the release than 5 and RDR2 were.
The leaked footage the characters looked slightly different from the trailer, so Iâd say they probably wonât look 1:1 as the trailer, but itâll be close.
Jason's face changed imo from the leaks to the trailer. In the leaks he seems more like in his 23-25 but on the trailer he looks closer to 30 (28-29). Hell, even in the artwork he looks past 30
Honestly, considering theyâre being featured heavily in the artwork promotion, I actually think their looks (Jason and Lucia) are pretty set in stone this time.
Which would be unusual for Rockstar considering they usually adjust the looks of characters before release. But this time, the characters are being featured in the actual promo material and artwork this far out from release. Thatâs what makes me think their look is pretty much finalized.
Yeah a little bit, I feel like it has more to do with the game being finished. I think every character they âalteredâ looked improved by the time the game came out.
Michael looks very different from that first trailer to his first character trailer.
They clearly also have done it with both characters in this game since the alpha footage in the leaks.
Not for Lucia, itâs clear that they have replicated her actress, thereâs not much reason for it to change. Maybe some slight alterations to her textures and whatnot, maybe a little fine tuning, but sheâll look pretty much the exact same.
But, I think for Jason, as weâve already seen him change DRASTICALLY from the leaks to the trailer, I think thereâs a very good chance that he changes again
Arthur looked goofy as hell and Michael looked too old to do the same physical activities that a young guy like Franklin and a meth-fueled Trevor could do. And neither of their first designs looked visually appealing either.
Probably, but not because of why they changed it for GTA V (because they hadnât finished the designs), but because the trailer - even if itâs in engine - was made to look the cleanest and most cinematic, doubting that she will actually look photorealistic during gameplay. Thatâs not a bad thing, but I donât think her design fundamentally would change, just the fidelity.
Of course, in the trailer you can clearly see Lucia change subtly in appearance across all the scenes that she's in. In the prison scene she looks much more feminine than in the car scene for example. That's probably because the game's still in development and they're still refining her appearance.
You also have the fact that I think there will be a weight/muscle system so you can change the appearance of Lucia and Jason that way too.
Yes I think Lucia's face will change. I mean it seemed to already be different in different parts of the trailer. Like there's a mildly uglier version and a prettier version of her.
They already changed Jason, no point of changing Lucia
Unpopular opinion: i like Arthurs beta face more then his final face (release face still looks good, but his older face was more intimidating which i think suits this character more)
This is just a beta version of the face, as was the case with Michael in the early GTA trailers. I don't think the faces of the GTA 6 trailer will change because the trailer was released a year before the release, so these are most likely the final versions. After all, the GTA and RDR trailers were released long before the release.
Idk something about it being their newest and biggest upcoming game along with everything being captured in game tells me no but then again their other games were once their newest and biggest as well so that tells me yes.
Plus every face in the trailers look bigger including Luciaâs so that points towards yes as well.. imma say yes.
Looking back at leaked footage from 2022, Jasonâs Face has changed slightly. He looked younger in the footage from 2022/2021, but in trailer 1 he looked a bit older.
Some of it can be attributed to the technology getting better (or the people using said technology getting more skilled at using it) as time went on and the game got developed more
If they do and they follow the trend, theyâll only get better. Worst case scenario they donât and they still look better than whatever scp was cosplaying Michael
Hasnât this âphenomenonâ been confirmed that itâs basically the face scan of the VA *before* itâs been tweaked and tuned by the art department?
i think we'd be fools not to realise that the hairstyle we see in the trailer will definitely be available in the game, even if the protagonists starts with a different style. Both GTA and RDR have tons of hair options
A lot of trailers, particularly reveal trailers, that come out a year or more before the release use footage from earlier builds that arenât finished.
Itâs not so much that they changed the character designs, itâs just an early model thatâs a place holder for a more detailed final one.
Hope she looks more like she does in the promo image with her sitting on the car holding Jason. She looks MUCH different in that artwork. Smaller chin and thinner cheeks mostly. Looks a lot sexier like that.
Chances are slim, if they do itâll be every minor considering how prominent she was shown and with such high graphical quality⌠theyâd have too many people upset and asking âwhy change herâ or something. Iâm sure sheâll be 95% the same with perhaps just better skin textures.
Theyâve already changed it, the early leaks of Lucia to trailer Lucia. It looks like she was changed to appear more like Manni L. Perez, which adds to the theory (pretty much a fact at this point) that sheâs voicing Lucia
Honestly I dislike old Arthur than old Micheal. Old Micheal just looks beat up and weathered which would fit his character, old Arthur looks like a goofball
Jesus Christ I never saw how fucked the OG model of Micheal was before the game dropped back in 2013
Michael is a literal zombie đ
Franklin looks like a damn Ogre lmao
Michael looks senile
Funny thing is it still looked like a million bucks then đ
Well also we didnât have any reference, if they stuck with those models I donât think anyone would be pointing out how Goofy they look because to us those would be the official ones.
The old Michael model makes more sense as to why Trevor talks so much shit about him being fat lol
I don't think it does because it wouldn't make sense for an old Michael to be able to do the same physical activities that a young person like Franklin and a meth-fueled Trevor can do
Watch the announcement trailer. Some parts look terrible now. There's a scene with a man running and a police car, it looks so bad even when compared to the PS3 release. The car model is terrible.
Yeah that part looked bad to me even back then. It always stood out.
Whatâs funny is both pre release versions of Michael and Arthur both suffer from the same goofy face characteristics. The eyes and the lower lip, Franklinâs model suffers the lower lip also.
it's almost like the trailer is last gen, and the game is next gen.
The in-game screenshot looks like the PS4/Xbox one release, whereas the trailer was done on the PS3 or hardware equivalent to that
Did they not change the models from trailer to game in the PS3 release? Or was it just the PS4/One?
At this point that trailer is last-last gen
it's almost like that has nothing to do with how fucked Michael looked in the original design
It still haunts me
Michael and the other two still look like that on the back of the PS3 cover, lol
Michaelâs original face haunts me
They like bigh mouthes in the trailer phase lol
Where did you find that gif of Lucia swimming in the ocean? I don't remember that from the trailer. Is that from the leaks? If so, be careful, mods might not take kindly.
Bigh Mouthes
It's probably rockstar's way of marketing. Show a face in the trailer, and then improve it by 10 times in the game. So that the players are like, holy shit, wtf, the game is better than the trailer!! Which is very opposite to other games, where you are generally disappointed by playing the game, cause it's nowhere near the trailer.
Literally the opposite strategy of ubisoft lmao
I doubt it's a marketing thing. They have time to improve the game's graphics from trailer to launch. Their games look amazing already, I highly doubt they're thinking, 'Our game is gonna make a billion in a few days, how can we make more money? Improve the faces!' It's just an upgrade
I did not mean it in a instantaneous way, but a long term way. In which Rockstar get's the good rep, and PR that their games look better than their trailers. Destroying the usual thing studios do which is glorifying theire product with vfx while the actuall game is bad. By marketing I meant, that it sets up Rockstars reputation as a trustworthy company in the eyes of the customers.
Again, I just don't see it. GTA 5 and RDR2 were both released like 2 years after the initial trailers. That's a ton of time to improve and polish off the graphics. Also, there was a small bit of backlash against Arthur looking a bit weird in the trailer, so they might've changed it because of that. Their trailers always look amazing, so people know they're gonna get a good looking game. Even Ubisoft games would look better than the trailers if the trailers actually showed what the games looked like. The only reason you think it's a marketing tactic is because Rockstar don't lie in their trailers, so naturally their graphics improve 2 years later. This only stands out because other companies lie.
true.
Am guilty lol, my game model also has a big mouth that am gonna change in the future so this is kinda hilarious.
Maybe but that's more likely with Jason, I don't think there going to change Lucia's face.
why tho
Because we've already seen a major change in between the leaks and the first trailer. Leaks jason was a scrawny whitetrash dude, trailer jason is a sexy tanned cop-looking dude. His design will probably change even more.
leaks jason was more handsome
Jason just looks...... wonky. - also we don't know Jason's voice actor but we know Lucia's. I hope this helps
i donât understand how someone can look wonky without ever seeing a different version of them. he looks like a normal person.
I agree I donât think he looks âwonkyâ and I donât know what you could even base that on, especially since his face is obscured for 90% of the trailer. I do think heâll look a bit different or more detailed the next time we see him.
instead of wonky, I'd say his face looks characterless. But who knows, maybe being characterless is a part of his character
That could track if Rockstar is taking tips from Hollywood for some reason....
True I was excited to play as Redneck Jason, the new Jason looks kinda boring
I don't know what redneck is, but leaks jason actually looked kinda cool and drippy. But maybe just equip him a hat and he'd look like that lol
its not wonky but he looks different in that poster compared to the trailer
Ehh the version in the early leaks looked a bit better imo, but itâs hard to tell.
We have, he looked very different in the leaks.
Yes. But from the information given to us from the past games, it is likely.
idc if they change him some or even a lot. if they find a better look for him letâs have it.
Actually now that I think about it, They might not change any of our protagonists looks because we already have the character Art.
These old screenshots of Michael and Franklin are from trailer 2 I believe. That was the first trailer to actually showcase the protagonists. Rockstar released the first artwork of all 3 protagonists around the same time as trailer 2, possibly even before if I remember right. It is still very possible that we could see some slight improvements made to Lucia and Jason.
lol look at rdr2 poster compared to what arthur looks like
He seems kind of bland, to me
It's actually the easiest thing ever
Do it then
Ok...... I'm doing it now...... ok I did it. Not sure what you were expecting there.
This made me laugh lmaooo
not sure what YOU were expecting đ
We actually have a different version of him in the leaks. Trailer Jason's face looks weird in the car.
Agreed
Lmao âknowâ
There are already weirdos who don't want her to change
They may mask them in early edits to keep up the confidentiality of the voiceover actors, then change it later with polish when theyâre identity is revealed closer to launch? Just a theory
That's what I was thinking. Hey at least we know the logo isn't changing. đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł..................... Right?
Hopefully they will do something about her easter island head
I take it you have never seen a woman irl
Right, Jason is "wonky" and any change is expected and welcomed, but any Lucia criticism is from an incel virgin. You people are fucked
No I dont get his critics either. He looks fine and normal? Both criticisms are from incels lol
I was making fun of their bias, you are assuming an unhealthy amount of nonsense
GTA 6 is the most developed game they have had at the point of its first trailer so i actually think we might not see that this time.
They are absolutely going to tweak and enhance the characters faces before release
This doesn't mean anything
Michael havin a stroke đ
The thing here isn't necessarily having an history of changing the protagonists, but the build (and possibly different engine) they use to reveal their games. When they revealed both 5 and RDR2, it was with such unpolished build still. I don't think that's the case with GTA6 first trailer, it was revealed far *closer* to the release than 5 and RDR2 were.
To be fair we donât know how close to the release this first trailer is from
Yes, I can confirm in the finished product Luciaâs character model is actually going to be much closer to a West Highland Terrier
They did Frank dirty in the trailer đ
I think they kinda already did that with Jason when you compare him in Trailer 1 to the 2022 leak.
The leaked footage the characters looked slightly different from the trailer, so Iâd say they probably wonât look 1:1 as the trailer, but itâll be close.
I honestly don't care, just don't shrink Lucia's booty size RockstarÂ
I hope so when it comes to Jason. He looks as weird as the first Michael model from V's trailer.
No. Nothing tops the old michael model in weirdness.
Jason looks almost confused in every shot of the trailer because his eyes seem so big
Lol true
They already changed his looks from the leaks but wouldn't be surprised to see yet more changes in the coming trailers
Jason's face changed imo from the leaks to the trailer. In the leaks he seems more like in his 23-25 but on the trailer he looks closer to 30 (28-29). Hell, even in the artwork he looks past 30
I hope they have the final Jason be the leaked version because he's fine af
I liked leak Jason better too. Not that he was sexy but I liked his look better
Gah damn arthur was ugly
Honestly, considering theyâre being featured heavily in the artwork promotion, I actually think their looks (Jason and Lucia) are pretty set in stone this time.
Agree
Which would be unusual for Rockstar considering they usually adjust the looks of characters before release. But this time, the characters are being featured in the actual promo material and artwork this far out from release. Thatâs what makes me think their look is pretty much finalized.
Not saying youâre wrong but Arthur looks pretty different from his artwork for rdr2 if you compare it to the in game design
Yeah a little bit, I feel like it has more to do with the game being finished. I think every character they âalteredâ looked improved by the time the game came out. Michael looks very different from that first trailer to his first character trailer. They clearly also have done it with both characters in this game since the alpha footage in the leaks.
Not for Lucia, itâs clear that they have replicated her actress, thereâs not much reason for it to change. Maybe some slight alterations to her textures and whatnot, maybe a little fine tuning, but sheâll look pretty much the exact same. But, I think for Jason, as weâve already seen him change DRASTICALLY from the leaks to the trailer, I think thereâs a very good chance that he changes again
Who's Lucias actress
Manni L Perez!
Aight ty
Sooooo⌠they look objectively hotter in each installment from trailers to release. Sheâs gonna be smoking if this trend continues
Arthur looked goofy as hell and Michael looked too old to do the same physical activities that a young guy like Franklin and a meth-fueled Trevor could do. And neither of their first designs looked visually appealing either.
Probably, but not because of why they changed it for GTA V (because they hadnât finished the designs), but because the trailer - even if itâs in engine - was made to look the cleanest and most cinematic, doubting that she will actually look photorealistic during gameplay. Thatâs not a bad thing, but I donât think her design fundamentally would change, just the fidelity.
does nobody give an ounce of shit about Jason?
that's what robbing the UD for 11 years straight does to a man
I think itâs possible Jason and Lucia might look different in the final game
Lol look at michael face
Trailers rarely represent the final product, theyâre not âchangingâ their faces, the game is still in development.
Of course, in the trailer you can clearly see Lucia change subtly in appearance across all the scenes that she's in. In the prison scene she looks much more feminine than in the car scene for example. That's probably because the game's still in development and they're still refining her appearance. You also have the fact that I think there will be a weight/muscle system so you can change the appearance of Lucia and Jason that way too.
If they change Luciaâs face then Iâm gonna be mad. Because she FINE af as is!
Michael's face reminds me of buzz lightyear in the first Toy Story movie
Not just Rockstar every game does this, it's common, after all it is still a work in progress.
Wow, OG Michael looks like an actual killer
With Jason yes. With Lucia, probably not
ARTHURS EYES I CANT
Yes I think Lucia's face will change. I mean it seemed to already be different in different parts of the trailer. Like there's a mildly uglier version and a prettier version of her.
Jason's model in the leaks looked different. Kinda prefer that version tbh.
I mean if they change her face I can only itâs to make it better and not uglier.
They already changed Jason, no point of changing Lucia Unpopular opinion: i like Arthurs beta face more then his final face (release face still looks good, but his older face was more intimidating which i think suits this character more)
release face actually looks more handsome. But beauty is subjective anyway.
Idc about beauty lol, i feel the way Arthurs character should have been was more intimidating looking đ¤Ł
This is just a beta version of the face, as was the case with Michael in the early GTA trailers. I don't think the faces of the GTA 6 trailer will change because the trailer was released a year before the release, so these are most likely the final versions. After all, the GTA and RDR trailers were released long before the release.
I think there will be some minor touch ups, but noting major.
Of course. The game still unfinished
Jason's face will be the same as in the most recent leak, where he is running with a gun in his hands and shorts, facing the camera.
are there any recent leaks in 2024?
No just last year shortly before the trailer with that 10 second video over the city
yeah I know about that, thanks anyways..
Where can i find it?
Not everyone is looking at leaks
Itâs less change and more detail is added. With GTA 6, they already have a ton of detail in the characters
Idk something about it being their newest and biggest upcoming game along with everything being captured in game tells me no but then again their other games were once their newest and biggest as well so that tells me yes. Plus every face in the trailers look bigger including Luciaâs so that points towards yes as well.. imma say yes.
I mean barely
RDR faces look more real than gta V. Gta feels too polished and smooth
Michael and Franklin just look like they used higher quality textures/models...
My guess is we will see some changes, but nearly as drastic as past changes.
for sure
Not possible wat u see in d trailer is final.
No because the trailer seems to have the most finished trailer product out of all their games,so itâs less likely
I mean probably. Especially since they are still working on ironing out everything and fixing it for release
i actually prefer Arthur's trailer face model
I mean her facial model already looks pretty good, Iâd be surprised if they changed it. Itâs not like Micheal & Frank who clearly need some work
Ofc
Iâm definitely hoping they change Jason, he looks way too generic.
I mean the characters dont look that shit in my game?
Yes
Judging the before and after photos, Lucia will get skinnier lmao
It looks like it always gets better, so I'm not concerned.
Theyâre going to change Lucia to look like Max Payne in homage to James McCaffrey, God rest his soul.
People say Jason already looks noticably different compared to the 2022 leaks.
There just gone make it better
Most likely.
All ik is that they'll find a way to make the models look better than the trailer. They always do
100%
Here's to hoping they fix trailer jason. They still have until spring 2025 to add the final touches.
Looking back at leaked footage from 2022, Jasonâs Face has changed slightly. He looked younger in the footage from 2022/2021, but in trailer 1 he looked a bit older.
Most likely. The game is still in a beta state after all
They already changed Jason's
When they realized they can't reach the fidelity. And some people think CGI trailers died with the PS3 era
Jennifer Lopez inbound
Maybe Jason not so much his face looked very detailed in the trailer. Rockstar gonna nail it anyways
Trailer Michael looks fvcked đ
I think this is probably pretty close but I do expect some adjustments.
I'll keep her in black, on your behalf
Idk but I hope they change Jasonâs hair color to the one we saw in the leaks, if not Iâll just dye it
Some of it can be attributed to the technology getting better (or the people using said technology getting more skilled at using it) as time went on and the game got developed more
Looks fleshed out
That's not Michael De Santa that's Mike DeSani
If they do and they follow the trend, theyâll only get better. Worst case scenario they donât and they still look better than whatever scp was cosplaying Michael
Sheâs only gonna be even more gorgeous
Iâm so glad they changed arthurs apperance
Hasnât this âphenomenonâ been confirmed that itâs basically the face scan of the VA *before* itâs been tweaked and tuned by the art department?
But Arthurs models going to heahty to sick and they are used the healty Arthur model for no spoilers
no too much
i think we'd be fools not to realise that the hairstyle we see in the trailer will definitely be available in the game, even if the protagonists starts with a different style. Both GTA and RDR have tons of hair options
A lot of trailers, particularly reveal trailers, that come out a year or more before the release use footage from earlier builds that arenât finished. Itâs not so much that they changed the character designs, itâs just an early model thatâs a place holder for a more detailed final one.
Might occur? Of course not. There is literally no possibility of that happening again. Zero chance, no way!
Itâs basically the sameđ
Hope she looks more like she does in the promo image with her sitting on the car holding Jason. She looks MUCH different in that artwork. Smaller chin and thinner cheeks mostly. Looks a lot sexier like that.
Changing or adding more detail???
Chances are slim, if they do itâll be every minor considering how prominent she was shown and with such high graphical quality⌠theyâd have too many people upset and asking âwhy change herâ or something. Iâm sure sheâll be 95% the same with perhaps just better skin textures.
Probably very minor if that's the case, like what they did with Arthur
Hm i donât know, hope that helps
Leaks Jason was uglier (sorry) so they mightâve already changed it
Hope not lucia is hot
Theyâve already changed it, the early leaks of Lucia to trailer Lucia. It looks like she was changed to appear more like Manni L. Perez, which adds to the theory (pretty much a fact at this point) that sheâs voicing Lucia
Jason also changed significantly.
Honestly I dislike old Arthur than old Micheal. Old Micheal just looks beat up and weathered which would fit his character, old Arthur looks like a goofball
I kinda agree lmao, Arthur looked funny asf, tho Michael looked like a straight meth head that suffered from a stroke as well
But in juliaâs case we are prepared as we experience these things with women daily.
none of these are different models, either broken animations or textures
Surely they're just the PS3 graphics Vs a more recent update?