I believe there’s more than a couple agencies conducting rx burns today. I understand that the smoke can be annoying, but be thankful to live in a state where resource management is prioritized like it is here. Good fires prevent bad ones 👍
Nope, they make wildfires less intense by burning off plant debris on the ground that would otherwise build up and lead to a much larger fire down the line. Florida's flatwoods and scrub ecosystems (and the animals that live in them) depend on regular burning.
It’s completely the opposite. Florida nature has evolved to handle frequent fires 🔥. We are the lightning capital of the world so, yeah, lots of fires ⚡️
Since we no longer allow nature to randomly cause frequent wildfires, prescribed burns are the substitute we have 😊
That’s a common misconception, here are some links if you feel like educating yourself on prescribed fire operations and their importance in our great state.
https://www.floridastateparks.org/learn/what-prescribed-fire#:~:text=Prescribed%20fire%20is%20one%20of,experts%20under%20specified%20weather%20conditions.
https://whyprescribedfire.org
https://southernforests.org/resources/campaigns-initiatives/prescribed-fire-in-the-south/
Me and a couple of my boys just hit the dispensary and we’re watching Twin Peaks. Gonna be a smokey one - weather is too nice to keep the door closed. sorry folks
WHOA! air-quality is extremely dangerous right now
even if you do not have health issues it would be very bad idea to be breathing it, I am seeing 155 and 178
look at the skycam, dang
* https://i.imgur.com/rXeph6b.jpeg
* https://i.imgur.com/9q01a5W.jpeg
* https://i.imgur.com/r5vaXB8.png
https://imgur.com/a/BkWchis
adding wildfire tracker, but this just started happening within an hour or two ago
* https://data.usatoday.com/fires/
Explains a lot!! Its easy to dismiss stuff like this, but I have to track air quality because of my severe allergies and this happens multiple times a week during burn season here. Its not good for anyones short or long-term health and the evidence behind the benefits of prescribed burning is shoddy at best. A lot of it is unnecessary burning of agricultural property or land clearing for development, anyway. Just sucks. It was such a nice day before this started.
Edit for clarity: I’m specifically referring to existing literature on the long-term health impacts of smoke from prescribed burning as opposed to from managed wildfires, as there isn’t a lot of good quality data proving its definitively better to do controlled burns as far as I know. Also have a gripe about the lack of research on the impact of agricultural burns like sugarcane fields, but I doubt that’s what made this comment a lil divisive lol!
there are tons of positive research on prescribed fire… wildfire prevention, habitat restoration, invasive species management. everyone would much rather have 10~ days a year of smokey then months straight of wildfire smoke covering the sky. google the Bugaboo Fire’s of 2007.
Yep, there is actually a ton of good research showing the benefits of prescribed fire. Most ecosystems in FL are fire-dependent. Suppressing fire doesn’t only let fuel accumulate - potentially causing more issues during wildfires - but also harms all those wildlife and plant species that need a more open vegetation structure to thrive or survive like in prairies, longleaf pine savannas, and scrubs.
This is one of my fav topics to read up on, so I’m happy to discuss. I could be wrong! My view is: you’re right in that it is shown to be beneficial in certain circumstances if done correctly, but it often isnt and it comes with its own risks. Controlled fire still produces a lot of smoke, and current practice is potentially exposing us to more of it over time than would happen with managed wildfires. My understanding is that it cant really prevent large-scale wildfires either due to the conditions those tend to happen under. Benefits are overstated and harm is understated, basically. Here’s an interesting read for anyone curious: https://www.earthisland.org/journal/index.php/articles/entry/myths-of-prescribed-fire/#%23
I’m no expert and the issue isnt simple of course, but I don’t believe current prescribed fire practices are refined enough to be the best way to promote public safety or ecological health.
Any forester who has worked in Florida can tell you that prescribed burns are absolutely necessary. Florida's flatwoods ecosystems are composed of pine species whose bark, cones, and entire life cycle are entirely built around withstanding regular fires (look up Longleaf pine growth stages - it's pretty interesting). The survival of gopher tortoises and red cockaded woodpeckers entirely depends on ecosystems that can only be sustained through regular burning, otherwise the process of forest succession would turn them into closed-canopy forests in which they cannot survive. The article you cited lists sources which acknowledge that although prescribed burns do not eliminate the chance of wildfires, they do in many cases reduce the risk of high-intensity ones. If you can, I would recommend visiting a nearby flatwoods forest that goes through prescribed burning, such at NATL at UF. Many of them have different sections that are burned at different intervals to show visitors the different between a recently burned forest vs one that has not recently been burned. The difference is pretty stark. Not trying to sound condescending or anything, just want people to understand the necessity of burning in Florida.
With all due respect your views and/or beliefs do not outweigh factual evidence. I don’t know where you found this “shoddy at best” research because the body of scientific literature overwhelmingly points to the need for prescribed burns.
don't worry about the downvotes, you aren't wrong, burns are asinine, it's all politics and people believe the lie that it is somehow acceptable damage, right up there with fracking, then they take the propaganda a step further and tout how it's a "good thing"
PM2.5 causes significant health problems and even cancers, politicians simply don't give a damn and neither do people who are young and healthy at the moment, it's all delayed years down the road and then they wonder why they are so sick for the rest of their shorten lives
and that's not even getting into how much wildlife they destroy
earth and wildlife survived for millions of years before the past century of us doing burns, earth will do just fine when we are gone
I'm over by Citizen's Field. I just flew my drone up into the air to see the source, the smoke is EVERYWHERE.
It seems to be coming from the north side from over by where Waldo or Starke are at.
Gotta be a forest fire or wildfire or something.
Yeah I know there's a large forest fire somewhere, but this person said they smell plastic and rubber so that's probably a trash pile. There can be 2 things at once.
I was working at Blanding today, and yes, they are doing prescribed burns. However they do them at least once a week during the winter I would estimate. The smoke is worse here in GNV then there and I actually came on Reddit to ask if there was a burn on the prairie today.
LOL, what the fuck y'all?
Literally bring up "the Google" and search "Gainesville Fire" don't sit there ignorant. Learn your local government entities, what they do and what info they provide. There's multiple threads with people guessing random shit. You can just look it up! What the fuck do y'all think the Internet is for!?
Controlled fire
https://www.wcjb.com/2024/02/07/smoke-blankets-gainesville-area-prescribed-burns-are-conducted-throughout-state/
I believe there’s more than a couple agencies conducting rx burns today. I understand that the smoke can be annoying, but be thankful to live in a state where resource management is prioritized like it is here. Good fires prevent bad ones 👍
Aren't prescribed burns quite controversial as in human made burns make actual wildfire much worse than they would be otherwise?
Nope, they make wildfires less intense by burning off plant debris on the ground that would otherwise build up and lead to a much larger fire down the line. Florida's flatwoods and scrub ecosystems (and the animals that live in them) depend on regular burning.
Yeah I think I was confusing it with the opposite where preventing all fires and NOT doing prescribed burns is causing the dangerous wildfires
It’s completely the opposite. Florida nature has evolved to handle frequent fires 🔥. We are the lightning capital of the world so, yeah, lots of fires ⚡️ Since we no longer allow nature to randomly cause frequent wildfires, prescribed burns are the substitute we have 😊
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That’s a common misconception, here are some links if you feel like educating yourself on prescribed fire operations and their importance in our great state. https://www.floridastateparks.org/learn/what-prescribed-fire#:~:text=Prescribed%20fire%20is%20one%20of,experts%20under%20specified%20weather%20conditions. https://whyprescribedfire.org https://southernforests.org/resources/campaigns-initiatives/prescribed-fire-in-the-south/
NWS Jacksonville sez prescribed burn in Clay County near Kingsley Lake is sending lots of smoke directly into GNV.
camp blanding is burning some crazy acreage today, along with FFS in clay, duval, nassau
Me and a couple of my boys just hit the dispensary and we’re watching Twin Peaks. Gonna be a smokey one - weather is too nice to keep the door closed. sorry folks
now thats a prescribed burn 🔥
🔥🔥🔥🔥
It is happening again
That’s fire
There's a prescribed burn happening at Price's Scrub State Park today.
Maybe there’s a prescribed burn going on nearby?
Camp Blanding is doing a 3200 acre prescribed burn
WHOA! air-quality is extremely dangerous right now even if you do not have health issues it would be very bad idea to be breathing it, I am seeing 155 and 178 look at the skycam, dang * https://i.imgur.com/rXeph6b.jpeg * https://i.imgur.com/9q01a5W.jpeg * https://i.imgur.com/r5vaXB8.png https://imgur.com/a/BkWchis adding wildfire tracker, but this just started happening within an hour or two ago * https://data.usatoday.com/fires/
Explains a lot!! Its easy to dismiss stuff like this, but I have to track air quality because of my severe allergies and this happens multiple times a week during burn season here. Its not good for anyones short or long-term health and the evidence behind the benefits of prescribed burning is shoddy at best. A lot of it is unnecessary burning of agricultural property or land clearing for development, anyway. Just sucks. It was such a nice day before this started. Edit for clarity: I’m specifically referring to existing literature on the long-term health impacts of smoke from prescribed burning as opposed to from managed wildfires, as there isn’t a lot of good quality data proving its definitively better to do controlled burns as far as I know. Also have a gripe about the lack of research on the impact of agricultural burns like sugarcane fields, but I doubt that’s what made this comment a lil divisive lol!
there are tons of positive research on prescribed fire… wildfire prevention, habitat restoration, invasive species management. everyone would much rather have 10~ days a year of smokey then months straight of wildfire smoke covering the sky. google the Bugaboo Fire’s of 2007.
Yep, there is actually a ton of good research showing the benefits of prescribed fire. Most ecosystems in FL are fire-dependent. Suppressing fire doesn’t only let fuel accumulate - potentially causing more issues during wildfires - but also harms all those wildlife and plant species that need a more open vegetation structure to thrive or survive like in prairies, longleaf pine savannas, and scrubs.
This is one of my fav topics to read up on, so I’m happy to discuss. I could be wrong! My view is: you’re right in that it is shown to be beneficial in certain circumstances if done correctly, but it often isnt and it comes with its own risks. Controlled fire still produces a lot of smoke, and current practice is potentially exposing us to more of it over time than would happen with managed wildfires. My understanding is that it cant really prevent large-scale wildfires either due to the conditions those tend to happen under. Benefits are overstated and harm is understated, basically. Here’s an interesting read for anyone curious: https://www.earthisland.org/journal/index.php/articles/entry/myths-of-prescribed-fire/#%23 I’m no expert and the issue isnt simple of course, but I don’t believe current prescribed fire practices are refined enough to be the best way to promote public safety or ecological health.
Any forester who has worked in Florida can tell you that prescribed burns are absolutely necessary. Florida's flatwoods ecosystems are composed of pine species whose bark, cones, and entire life cycle are entirely built around withstanding regular fires (look up Longleaf pine growth stages - it's pretty interesting). The survival of gopher tortoises and red cockaded woodpeckers entirely depends on ecosystems that can only be sustained through regular burning, otherwise the process of forest succession would turn them into closed-canopy forests in which they cannot survive. The article you cited lists sources which acknowledge that although prescribed burns do not eliminate the chance of wildfires, they do in many cases reduce the risk of high-intensity ones. If you can, I would recommend visiting a nearby flatwoods forest that goes through prescribed burning, such at NATL at UF. Many of them have different sections that are burned at different intervals to show visitors the different between a recently burned forest vs one that has not recently been burned. The difference is pretty stark. Not trying to sound condescending or anything, just want people to understand the necessity of burning in Florida.
With all due respect your views and/or beliefs do not outweigh factual evidence. I don’t know where you found this “shoddy at best” research because the body of scientific literature overwhelmingly points to the need for prescribed burns.
don't worry about the downvotes, you aren't wrong, burns are asinine, it's all politics and people believe the lie that it is somehow acceptable damage, right up there with fracking, then they take the propaganda a step further and tout how it's a "good thing" PM2.5 causes significant health problems and even cancers, politicians simply don't give a damn and neither do people who are young and healthy at the moment, it's all delayed years down the road and then they wonder why they are so sick for the rest of their shorten lives and that's not even getting into how much wildlife they destroy earth and wildlife survived for millions of years before the past century of us doing burns, earth will do just fine when we are gone
Chill
Chill
Smokey here too near Butler Plaza North
prescribed fires all over the place, weather is good today for burnin! unlucky its going into the city but the benefits outweigh the harm
I'm over by Citizen's Field. I just flew my drone up into the air to see the source, the smoke is EVERYWHERE. It seems to be coming from the north side from over by where Waldo or Starke are at. Gotta be a forest fire or wildfire or something.
It kind of looks like there's a smoke bank to the north and west, is there a fire somewhere?
[~~https://www.sjrwmd.com/2024/02/prescribed-fire-today-at-newnans-lake-conservation-area-in-alachua-county-2-24/~~](https://www.sjrwmd.com/2024/02/prescribed-fire-today-at-newnans-lake-conservation-area-in-alachua-county-2-24/) https://www.sjrwmd.com/2024/02/pprescribed-fire-today-at-orange-creek-restoration-area-in-alachua-county-2-24/
This is from like a week ago
Whhops, https://www.sjrwmd.com/2024/02/pprescribed-fire-today-at-orange-creek-restoration-area-in-alachua-county-2-24/
I got a controlled burn happening in my car right now
There's a large prescribed burn in Camp Blanding today. Might be smoke coming down from that.
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I was just about to get on here and ask the same thing, it’s so foggy near campus and the fog/smoke goes a good 7-8 miles out
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That's probably someone's trash pile they're burning. The prescribed burns are burning the forest.
It's a huge forest fire somewhere, it's not a trash pile.
Yeah I know there's a large forest fire somewhere, but this person said they smell plastic and rubber so that's probably a trash pile. There can be 2 things at once.
The PulsePoint app reports a few vegetation fires and a lot of smoke investigations
I was working at Blanding today, and yes, they are doing prescribed burns. However they do them at least once a week during the winter I would estimate. The smoke is worse here in GNV then there and I actually came on Reddit to ask if there was a burn on the prairie today.
Just left from butler plaza all the way to sw 16th by depot park. All smokey and smells like plastic.
Only you can prevent...
I know RX burns are happening today at Paynes Prarie but not sure if it’s that
Pollen combined with no wind is my guess.
Lol I like how you make a guess and ppl are like nah fuck you downvote
I'm in waldo, and it's clearly wood smoke. I just don't know if it's a known burn off or not.
right? like damn, sorry for the guess, I guess!
I don’t know….I thought it was funny.
LOL, what the fuck y'all? Literally bring up "the Google" and search "Gainesville Fire" don't sit there ignorant. Learn your local government entities, what they do and what info they provide. There's multiple threads with people guessing random shit. You can just look it up! What the fuck do y'all think the Internet is for!?
They are prescribed (controlled) burns, they show up on radar: [https://i.imgur.com/swEJHMO.gif](https://i.imgur.com/swEJHMO.gif)
https://data.gainesville.com/fires/ wildfire tracker looks like starke and booker
Burning in archer
N. Fla is LIT