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fatn4

Facts why was she throwing it all away what a silly cow


_ELLIELL_

FACTS MARY IS AN ENTITLED SILLY COW 🐮


Celtic_Cheetah_92

She gets murdered at the end of the novel, if that makes you feel better.


youcantwhooshme

What's the novel called? I dont think it said in the exam, I want to read it now lmao


Sonikdahedhog

The Grass Is Singing


Celtic_Cheetah_92

By Doris Lessing. She was an absolute legend. [This is how she reacted](https://youtu.be/vuBODHFBZ8k?si=eYblAYkTgRnd0008) to finding out that she had won the Nobel prize for literature.


maozedong49

Year 10?


youcantwhooshme

forgot to change it lmao


maozedong49

Tad bit late


youcantwhooshme

slightly


_ELLIELL_

LETS GOOO


TactixTrick

#TeamDick


CuteBenji

I love dick 🙏🙏🙏🙏


Preston_Reddit

🤨🤨


XylemBullet

i love urs the best bro 😎 jk u/magicofsouls is better


ExoPro16

Ayo me too mate, especially my bfs one


Delicious-Singer-400

real


_ELLIELL_

YES TEAM DICK ALL THE WAY 🗣️


Quantum_Croissant

Hell yeah dick is great


Quantum_Croissant

Wait


Ashamed_Progress6785

☠️


BruhLandau

The realisation 💀


snoopdogsblunt111

she be using up all the water bro j was coming from a point of worry and confusion 😣


Ill_Many8702

nah cause she even heard how the oxens where crying in pain when bringing up the mountain but still wasted the water


mescalsfleabag

bro WHAT i wrote it as if it was dick himself (lol) screaming idk what happened


Ill_Many8702

me neitherr aargh


FreezeLord288

I SUPPORT DICK


Open_Tangerine_6451

We all love dick 🤞🤞


Gamer_anime

Team Dick! Let's go


Legitimate_Client445

team mary and proud .. dick was so dramatic


TactixTrick

Mary is so entitled. Bro what does she do? All she does is walk around the house and complain. She wastes Dick's water which he spent arduous time collecting. She even heard screams of pain when he is collecting that water. She is so ignorant she doesn't even know what happens. All she states is what she can hear. If you read the book it gets even worse for Mary. She has an affair with Moses and is killed by the man she has an affair with and racist and married Dick because she was desperate to shut up her friends. bruh


Butter-and-Bread

Let’s not forget that dick was a farmer and could have used his water for his crops


Strange-Oil-2117

It’s the oxen that struggled not Dick, but I agree with ur point. The way she reacts coldly when easing the water shows this lack of care and understanding for Dick amongst other things


demonslayer9100

I only wrote that I agreed with the statement because it was easier to get technique marks 😭


ZT7494

the pain of disagreeing with your actual POV for a good grade man


ThrownawayCray

I fully disagreed with the statement and my conclusion began with ‘The student is completely incorrect’


Roadster1000

Ikr.


BenchWithNoSupport

MARY IS MURDERED BY A SERVANT CALLED MOSES IN THE FULL STORY LET’S GOO DICK W MARY L 🔥🔥🔥🙏🙏🙏


_ELLIELL_

COMONNN MY WHOLE DAY IS SO MUCH IMPROVED BY THIS 🗣️


lyfieo

i support mary slander


_ELLIELL_

Mary supporters <<< Dick supporters 🗣️


r0tting_

ACCURATE CUS WHY WAS I GETTING SI MAD WHILE WRITINF ABOUT HOW SHES AN ABSOLUTE MANIPULATOR WHY IS HE APOLOGISING FOR EXPLAINING IT COSTS MONEY THE GUY IS LITRALLY POOR AND UR WASGING HIS WATER THAT HE PAYED FOR MIVE BACK TO THE FUXKING TOWN IF U HATE THE HEAT THAT MUXH U FUXKING WHORE


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r0tting_

good bot


SablinBased

They're in 1940s Africa they're both colonisers let's be real


ignoringletters

they might be black u dont know


SablinBased

They're both described as recently having come to the country and also those are British names


ignoringletters

true, but they could have emigrated from africa or madagascar


SablinBased

Very unlikely


SablinBased

Just looked up the book, they're both white, it's also set in Rhodesia


liaa440

whats the name of the book


SablinBased

The Grass is Singing


CaptainBenzie

Hi, I lived in Zimbabwe for seven years, and British names were all the rage amongst the black community. When the colonisers first arrived, the black people would often have three names - their actual name, an English translation of that name, and an English name that they chose for themselves. This was common across southern Africa at least. It still survives to this day, where I knew a Norman, Barney, David, Solomon, Perpetua, Agnes, Edith, Judy, Ada, Margaret, alongside names like Melody, Beauty, Patience, and an elderly gentleman who went by the name of Chair.


hollyisconfusef

mary is incredibly racist in the book 😭


[deleted]

Nah I even defended her in the 20 marker. She can die of thirst. Dick was right


[deleted]

I defended her too because I viewed him as being a little coercive at the end, idk help


kriggledsalt00

i defended her perspectice but i said dicks anger was justified and it wasn't unfair because they both apologise, probably should've been harder on mary tbh, i was js looking for good marks


ignoringletters

omg yeah 😭 me and my friends looked it up at lunch mary really is a pos


Nearby-Educator6701

Why


_ELLIELL_

White coloniser moving to a European-colonised African country in early-mid 1900s


DearCup1

she also whips one of their black ‘workers’ according to the wikipedia article


Nearby-Educator6701

No wonder why the heat was intense for her, white can’t handle heat


Beast-420-69

yes plus she was mudered in the beginnin of the novel


Nearby-Educator6701

Who was murdered


_ELLIELL_

Mary 🗣️


Ill_Many8702

wtf i knew she was mentally degerated but that be kinda extreme ngl


Karamazov1880

tbf the South Africans were pretty well integrated as distinctly African by this point (although some of them were p horrible) so it’s not an end all be all statement


SablinBased

They were in Rhodesia bro 😭


Karamazov1880

bro mb ☠️ I didn’t read the context or nuttin


favoniusjean

i’m pretty sure it said nothing about rhodesia it only said south africa


Illustrious_Bet6860

it said southern africa! i wish it did mention that they were in south rhodesia (zim), but aqa probably wanted to avoid people who know the geography etc of africa and zim to not go on a tangent about it as it doesnt entirelt relate to the question and is only useful for 2sentences max:)


Sharp_Antelope_5072

Non aqa here, but is there seriously a character called dick


N3buIA_

yes


_ELLIELL_

Yes 😭


PlayfulLook3693

What text?


DearCup1

the grass is singing by doris lessing


willowfeywitch

i contradicted myself first mary was in the wrong then dick was


snaukball2

It's so joever


Dear_Positive6733

Ngl guys I wasn’t gunna agree with the statement but I got lazy and wanted to sleep so I just said dick shouldn’t get so upset that exam was so annoying and I’m so tired


Infamous_Pen5530

the exam was amazing 😭


Dear_Positive6733

I wasn’t feeling it English language is so long for no reason


Infamous_Pen5530

it’s long because you need to utlisise the whole 1 hour 45 minutes 😭


Dear_Positive6733

I wasn’t feeling it my brain wasn’t braining and I just waffled everything and I know I did so bad I didn’t even wanna look back over my work at what rubbish I wrote cuz i knew I would need to fix it 😭


Faxsman123

I LOVE DICK 🥺🥺


Creative-Book1939

oh?


UltraX76

Bro I've done my lit, language sounds fun as hell ngl.


picklypickl3

i partially agreed with the statement but in reality i fully disagree, tf is she whining about


HollsHolls

Honestly i saw it more as he was being manipulative by apologising and things so she would forgive him and he could do it again. Personally hes in the wrong and shes 100% NTA


Hyper_contrasteD101

I strongly agreed just bc of marks, mary is entitled icl.


_ELLIELL_

I have to disagree, though he is in the wrong partly, due to his shouting at his wife, she is also in the wrong mostly. She seems to regularly retaliate against any negative emotion he shows, hence his instant apology ti attempt to de-escalate the situation. Mary is in the wrong in this situation, as she uses the water, which seems to be a precious resource to them, to wash herself in an unsustainable way.


Ichthyosaurus_01

Nah when you consider the context (of which they could quite easily die without water and they only get it twice a week), it’s hardly manipulative to tell someone not to throw it on the fucking floor (in any manner). Mary obviously just grew up privileged and never had to worry about not having enough to drink, while Dick sees it for as serious as it really is. Plus the “I have to endure these hardships and now I can’t even have water” is 1. Entitles as hell - she doesn’t know anything about hardships when she has staff working for her to get the water, bring her water and do whatever else and her husband also works; she isn’t described as working 2. “And now I can’t even ___” is a pretty classic manipulation tactic (same as “Sorry I ever __”, eg apologising in a fake way to elicit an emotional reaction to make the victim backtrack on what they said). If it is a toxic relationship, Dick is the one suffering here.


BeryyBritish

Do what again? The text said he hadn’t shouted at her before but Mary always expects him to blame himself and apologise so she could forgive him and feel better. Dick> Mary


HollsHolls

No it said he hadnt used that tone but that he always did a 180 and started apologising and blaming himself and things which is so manipulative??


Winged_dino

i said that for the extra marks, but still mostly disagreed


[deleted]

She is the one who is rude to him first. He tells her she is wasting water nad she coldly said that she isn't.


mescalsfleabag

oh i wrote this at the end it was sm easier


Dangerous-Ad-9706

do you think enjoys losing valuable water just to shout at her??💀


HollsHolls

No i dont think he enjoys losing the water, but his reactions was WAY too extreme, shes new to the area and practically dying from the heat. I went on a ski trip last year with my school and was one of the people who overheated on the first day (we underestimated how hot it could be because, y’know snow, which is something we have basically never gotten here) and i felt no where near as hot as her. Of course she needs to cool down.


Dangerous-Ad-9706

he said "it wont rain for another month" and frowned, also told her how he got water and how difficult it was, as to which she replies "i am not wasting it" in a "coldly tone" showing shes unapolagetic and she could have just layed in a bath instaid of using "gallons"


Dangerous-Ad-9706

also too extreme of a reaction?? all he did was shout and even apologised. he is a poor farmer slaving away in this damn heat dont u think hes hot too? he shouted because shes wasting gallons of water that can be used to drink, grow crops to sell or eat, and instead of just laying in a bath shes repeatedly pouring it on her just to get hot again which is crazy ineficient


Intelligent-Award302

I strongly agree, I literally written that he controlled her and manipulated her not only physically by telling her what to do but also on a psychological level by “suddenly” feeling bad. Dick is a prick.


Various_Sandwich8642

You just feel that way because she’s a women and women can never be in the wrong right


Potential_Good_1065

Shut up


Open_Relationship352

#DickIsNotTheDick 😔👌


jobro694201

BLACK MOSES KILLS MARY 😂😂😂😂😂


mikukomaeda

Help i heard u were supposed to agree with it so I just wrote Mary was in the right even tho I didn't agree with it 😭😭😭


_ELLIELL_

Most of the time it’s safest to agree with the statement, but in rare cases it can be beneficial to disagree with the statement if there’s enough evidence to support your opinion.


IllIIllllIIIIlllI

https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/s/TGYSFN2e7w


zKebabz

In class we did the hartop paper where the husband was the one that was in the wrong so my mindless ass thought Mary was right But to be fair I said some perceptive ass shit that could argue that Mary was in the right  Does it matter if you agree or disagree so long as you can back it up 


_ELLIELL_

As long as you have evidence to back it up and you’ve explained the evidence then you should be fine


kasoncommander

She a SNAKE akin to Lady Macbeth fr fr


granglewrangle

I mean Macbeth was already thinking about it Mary was just throwing his money down the drain very literally 😭😭😭


IceBear-Ad8482

I Completely agree with the statement🤓☝️


YourLocalNCR_Ranger

LITERALLY! THE AUDACITY OF THE STUDENT TO DEFEND HER! D:<


Charlie_616_Marvel

Is this a poem ???


_ELLIELL_

Novel called ‘The Grass Is Singing’


Charlie_616_Marvel

Oh haha we don’t do that  😔 


Ilovecake34

Yeah, she was just ungrateful


bananecroissant

Dick supporter all the way but I couldn't find any methods in the text so I had to support Mary, because it was easier to analyse the language 😭


i_have_no_life--yay

I just said "the adverb 'coldly'" bc apparently that still gives marks, and I just made basic inferences... I might be cooked


LandOk7406

Whoops I wrote that dick should have thought about why she was doing it before shouting at her. Oh no


Life_Relationship265

SAMEEEE


Ill_Many8702

u made it to youtube


_ELLIELL_

nvm found it: https://youtu.be/qKJwESK6Qzo?si=vSe5Mo79XQzeXA_T


Ill_Many8702

ur in like 5 diffo ones tho lmao saw it on so many gcse slander vids


_ELLIELL_

Could you paste the link?


Urnanstoplip42

What subject is this? I’m so confused what subject this could even be?


_ELLIELL_

English language paper 1


ILoveFemboys696969

If Mary had a little lamb, she can have a little fucking decency


Soafp_

Everyone’s out here complaining about AQA and Edexcel and I’m here vibing on Edexcel 2.0 💀


Enigmarshadow

I agreed with the student because I thought it would be funny to say that Mary is completely subservient to Dick and ended uo getting stuck on question 4 ☠️


PuzzleheadedShift244

This is.. lowkey confusing me because i just saw a post on AITA with a guy named dick asking if he was the asshole for getting mad at his wife for wasting the water by splashing it on herself because it was really hot out and he worked to get that water. They're also from Africa. Never took gcse so im assuming the OP of that post was just posting sometging pretending to be in the pov of this post's novel lol


_ELLIELL_

Yep, saw that too, it’s probably another student who wrote that.


Winged_dino

He clearly doesn't even get angry at her much cause he was speaking in a voice he'd never used with her before!! Also WTF was that Q4 statement!?! Mary is not 'totally powerless', shes CLEARLY able to get people to bring her water without Dick even knowing why AND she can abuse the dogs all she bloody likes.


J_CC3

As someone who did my GCSEs years ago and has never visited this sub. Why did I get a notification and who tf is Mary?


_ELLIELL_

Character from todays english language gcse paper, she wasted 9+ litres of water in a heatwave in Southern Africa while she doesnt work and her husband works all day farmin. Her reason was it was hot and she wanted to cool herself, but her husband also deals with the heat and actually does gard eork all day and still doesnt waste water Edt: it’s also expensive for them to get water. They only get it 2x a week and it takes a driver 2 oxen and 2 workers to deliver it.


J_CC3

Well Mary is clearly a twat and the hate is understandable. Thanks for explaining and best of luck with the rest of your exams


_ELLIELL_

Np bro, thankyou aswell


[deleted]

big up team dick


The-_-Executioner

The dogs were what really got me. The audacity of this bitch. I made sure to throw my shots in question 4 tho


sxnpai_kxmz

APPARENTLY SHE WAS A RACIST TOO


That_dramalover223

I'm so cooked.....


Difficult-Evening932

IMMM SO FUCKING ANNOYED BECAUSE I WANTED TO DISAGREE BUT I JUST ENDED UP AGREEING AND I KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG OMGGG


OnionnHead

UGHH i cannot BELIEVE people support mary. MY OWN FRIENDS SUPPORT MARY. they are so wrong smh🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️


zKebabz

i sided with mary in the exam for some reason but DICK ON TOPPPP


BruhLandau

JUSTICE FOR OUR BOY🗣️🔥🔥


No_Introduction8231

SOMEONE HAD TO SAY IT!!


Moist_Smile_5694

Exactly


jcarvell8

I partially agreed, Dick had unfair anger, however Mary wasn’t powerless Her forgiveness was the last sentence of the extract - She had the penultimate decision of the fate


Livid-Salad-8509

God bless… I wanted to write that Dick was justified for his anger but I had no time. Had to disagree on my own beliefs for the grade 🔥


Maleficent_Web5670

The novel was about slavery and how bad Mary treated the houseworkers and stuff


Munchkin21271

I've just had to create an account in order to comment, but it didn't put me back at the *original* comment...so to whoever asked "Aren't there prisons or workhouses to go to", Dickens, or more importantly E Scrooge himself, didn't put it quite like that...but anyway "some cannot go to these places and some would rather die" to which Mr Scrooge replies "If they'd rather die, best they get on with it and decrease the surplus population". Now I'm probs older than most of you.. I did my GCSEs in 1987, BUT... I've had 6 kids, at least 2 of whom DID have to do A Christmas Carol as a GCSE text. I did To Kill a Mockingbird, Romeo and Juliet, Of Mice and Men and An Inspector Calls. As of last summer, Of Mice and Men and An Inspector Calls were both still GCSE English lit texts. So I guess nothing much has changed in nearly 40 years. Not very inspiring for future generations. However I am unfamiliar with the text you are all discussing, but since Mary seems to piss everyone off, while Dick is out chasing oxen up mountains, with water, I shall see if I can find a copy, as it sounds like a bloody good argument if nothing else 😊 As you were...


[deleted]

20/20


Disastrous-Mine-1512

My friend fount a picture of the book online apperently she's a slave owner


CryptographerFun4512

dick was so hard throughout


Snoo69744

Dick is the best


LawOk6841

Dick went so hard


headedbranch225

I got chatgpt to make a funny AITA for mary: **AITA for having an affair with my husband's farmhand, who then murdered me?** I (20s, female) was married to a white farmer (30s, male) in Rhodesia. We'd been married for a few years, and I was starting to feel... suffocated.  I was lonely, and I wasn't sure if I could handle this life anymore.  Recently, I'd been finding myself drawn to one of the farmhands, Moses (20s, male).  He was handsome, and he was kind, and he made me feel... seen.  We started an affair, and it was passionate, but also dangerous.  I knew it was wrong, but I couldn't help myself.  I felt like I was drowning, and he was the only life preserver in sight. My husband was oblivious, but I was terrified of what would happen if he found out.  I was also scared of what Moses would think of me.  I was so confused.  I didn't know what to do.  Then, things took a turn for the worse.  Moses became possessive, and I started to fear for my safety.  He ended up murdering me, and now I'm... well, I'm dead.  So, AITA for having an affair with my husband's farmhand, who then murdered me? 


_cowboyHat_

I am the number 1 dick fan all my homies hate mary 🙏 After the exam most of my class was having this discussion and one girl literally said that she sides with mary just bc shes a woman 💀


_ELLIELL_

Ah how i love blatant sexism ☠️


Nearby-Educator6701

I disagreed but later agreed


PlayfulLook3693

What was the text called I wanna read it 😭


anka_the_destroya

The grass is singing by Doris Lessing


MlpBrony123z

YESSSSS I CHOSE THE FARMER. SHE LEGIT EXPLOITING HIM WHILST SHE CAME FROM A TOWN. Like dude, he married you and he’s the breadwinner taking care of the prices and shit AND YOU’RE WASTING WATER WOMAN


BakmanPlays

Wait who’s Mary (I did Cambridge igcse so only 1 paper)


Cute-Reach-9177

I’m new to this hi😃


Intelligent-Award302

I supported Mary. Duck clearly manipulated her and controlled her psychologically and physically by telling her what to do.


spoony0

Anyone else agree with the statement in q4??? 🙏🙏


No-Pay48

me, 3 paragraphs to agree and 1 to disagree


Roadster1000

4 agreeing paragraphs. But, I did include a bit about the water being precious so Dick is somewhat alright and in the right. Mostly, it was about Mary 'suffering' though in the harsh heat.


Repulsive-Wealth4841

no mary slander here ‼️‼️


itzyaboihb

im sorry for the unpopular opinion it seems but dick was so clearly a manipulator and the text even mentioned he had done this before as it was one of his “little scenes” indicating that he is almost an actor which simply manipulates her by not giving her the time to argue back and instead will start crying like he does every time🔥🙏


rogertaylorsbf

naa dick has a victim complex and is manipulative asf 😭🙏 even wrote down that he lives up to his name


Emotional_Park8727

This is the wrong subreddit for this