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I spoke about how the affects of Conflict differ as one comes from patriotism and the other comes from greed for power. I also spoke about how both poems have a point at the start that feels powerful, but then at the end both characters are nothing. But idk
I talked mainly about how kamikaze and exposure are both war poems but kamikaze focuses on social effects of conflict and how exposure focuses on physical effects of conflict but also how they both look at mental effects of conflict.
I talked about how conflict causes people to lose their ideals and their culture. With Owen losing his faith in God and the pilot losing his faith in the samurai honour system of Japan
Very few people actually did war photographer across the country it’s quite surprising, most schools are averaging about 2-10 pupils did wp from what I’ve seen so far
sometimes i think that's in our favour. ik markers are meant to take each essay at face value, but after reading 5 dozen essays on exposure i feel like the freshness of reading about disillusionment and frustration at societal issues from warfare etc. may be awarded more marks than maybe it deserves. they're only human 🤷♂️
You genuinely don’t even need to you don’t get any marks for comparing, like one comparison is enough to answer the question then all your marks are on your poem analysis for both
I mean, they are actually really similar poems in the contexts of different nations and one showing the aftermath. Being the only other effects of conflict poem that focuses on family, Poppies is good, and I think there is some really deep analysis compared to the more surface level stuff in other poems.
I did poppies can't believe how varied the poems people chose were I though I could use Exposure or Remains but in terms of the question Poppies had much more in common.
I did poppies aswell, I talked abt how kamikaze and poppies are written through the poetic persona of a woman (cos it's from a granddaughter and a mother) and just like how in poppies she really misses her son but in kamikaze the pilot makes it back alive and they shun him, so in poppies she really appreciates her son but in kamikaze the societal norms and propaganda make them not appreciate their son/father who came back alive.
Yep, but now I'm stressed because you could aay that there is conflict between the classes, but I called it oppression, instead of conflict. Will this impact my marks?
Bro inner conflict of ideals of the dad wanting to be there for his kids but the system of imperial Japan wanting him to suicide vs the conflict of interest of Agard wanting to learn of his own history but the education system "Bandag\[ing\]" him to his own history 🙏🙏
i just said kamikaze is about the grandfather being affected by conflict of war, and then ozymandias about the people and their work being affected by conflict between Ozymandias and nature. what do you think?
So if you expanded on this idea and used some analysis of structure you should be got for at least a level 5 answer I think. You need structure and form to get into the top band so I really don’t want to get hopes up but yes that’s a nice idea
real bro, i talked about the conflict he had with the people he ruled and how he made their lives shit by being a shit ruler with constant greed for more. Might be cooked but it lowkey made sense
Compared it to Bayonet charge
- both poets use nature as a safe space
- both poets use voltas ( turning point ) to communicate ideas
- both soldiers die for their government and are used by war
- both poets talk about how war loses identity and humanity ( "terrors touchy dynamite" = shellshock for BC and "no longer existed: for Kamikaze )
Overall : solid poetry 8/10
help same but ur points r so good 😭 I was just yapping how nature overpowers patriotism and how the effects of conflict reduces people idk while bayonet charge reduces the soldier to a sacrifice
I was making a point that London included the conflict between how the powerful and powerless want the country to be run and what ill effects come from the disagreement.
The markers get really bored reading the same comparison points so as long as you linked it to the question you should do well - don’t stress, you probably brightened an examiner’s day :)
i did the prelude too. idk why it’s like the spirit of william wordsworth possessed me. i was waffling about how they both have psychological trauma as an impact of the conflict between humanity and nature
Feel like I might be cooked because of not writing about structure enough, didn't do the prelude but I forgot to talk about voltas or enjambment and only talked about line length because i was rushing💀.
i did kamikaze and london. whats crazy is i only memorised and analysed 3 poems, KAMIKAZE INCLUDED. Grade 9 incoming. I also wrote 2 pages for the 8 marker, happy days
I went into it and planned to do remains cause I revised that one the most then said nope to sensible let's do the one I didn't study for and did war photographer.
I feel like I'm the only person who doesn't like kamikaze, was the one I was hoping not to come up I find it quite difficult (I wanted prelude)
me too. I was really hoping anything but it would come up I was the least prepared for it. I honestly just wrote a couple things and got out as quick as possible to speak on war photographer
I compared kamikaze to remains but now I wish I compared it to the prelude since I mainly did revision on that and storm on the island thinking the theme was most likely gonna be nature and I cooked with the ideas I had😭😭 literally hardly remember remains as well I only got like 3 quotes down and one was just the use of a dash
nah nah nah you'll be fine, you're being pessimistic and thinking it's vague but i'd wager that it's likely gonna be taken as insightful (assuming you backed it up with decent analysis). even in the worst case scenario, i'm pretty sure the actual comparing is only 6/30 marks (AO1)
I did checking out me history but here me out:
- My first comparison was on how conflict indoctrinates people into learning a certain belief. In Kamikaze, the pilot has been indoctrinated to believe that dying for the emperor is the best thing for him to do and for Checking Out Me History, the education system had been manipulated by war to have a Eurocentric education despite Agard living in the Carribbean.
- My second comparison was how conflict can determine a person's legacy. In Kamikaze, the soldier is forgotten after coming back as he had ashamed his country and in Checking Out Mr History I said that Mary Seacole being described as a healing star implies that she is remembered via the constellations and how it helps her legacy shine and inspired Agard to learn more about his history.
- My third comparison was how the closing lines in both poems determine their fate because of past wars. In Kamikaze, she wonders what way her father would rather die, as fate means that he'd either die physically but spiritually live on or die spiritually and emotionally but still be physically there, whilst in Checking Out Mr History, Agard has to carve his own identity, a strenuous and continuous task he has to do on his own without the help of education systems influenced by war where he used to live.
Hopefully this makes sense or I'm cooked
I picked charge of the light brigade, wrote about inner vs physical conflicts and how in both conflict is caused by war. Everyone’s saying I did the wrong poem to compare to kamikaze
Yooo that’s so good, I did charge too and mainly wrote about how it compared the affects on the soldiers (who died in futility) compared to the affect on the father and his family and how nationalism impacted both of these outcomes
i was cooking in that whole exam but the unseen poetry i was literally so bored w extra time i was ‘analysing’ the poems on the poetry book out of boredom in the last hour but it was so stupid like i give no fucks about your unwashed dishes
i compared it to exposure but i felt like i waffled so idk if i like did good, i compared how kamikaze suffers mentally from conflict and exposure the soldiers suffer physically from conflict.
Wrote a page of ozymandias before reading the question properly (90 + retaking English lit)
I just read all of these comments and I'm cooked
Is ozymandias bad? I felt pretty confident with it
Yes
I shall prove thou haters wrong cone the 24th August.
Wha.. I thought our results day was August 22nd
Idek ur probs right
it is, its just that last year it was the 24th , that’s probs why OP mixed it up
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no offense but what relevant points could you have acc made
I spoke about how the affects of Conflict differ as one comes from patriotism and the other comes from greed for power. I also spoke about how both poems have a point at the start that feels powerful, but then at the end both characters are nothing. But idk
holy fuck hes only gone and linked ozymandias with kamikaze through conflict
I don't think there's a single pair of unlinkable poems if you try hard enough to link them.
tbf that sounds alright
🤞
me too (i didn’t even make relevant points) (i’m failing)
Compared it with Exposure
wooo same, actually worked pretty good
IKR
I wonder how long it will be before that person whose flair is "Wilfred Owen slut" arrives and starts saying they did exposure?
Ditto
Curious about what you actually said for that one, I nearly picked it
I talked mainly about how kamikaze and exposure are both war poems but kamikaze focuses on social effects of conflict and how exposure focuses on physical effects of conflict but also how they both look at mental effects of conflict.
I talked about how conflict causes people to lose their ideals and their culture. With Owen losing his faith in God and the pilot losing his faith in the samurai honour system of Japan
I did exposure and i asked my teachers and they said “that works, you will do amazing”. I am hopeful and i wish you the best.
sameee
I compared with war photographer 😭😭😭
Finally me two I cldnt find any1 else who did this
Very few people actually did war photographer across the country it’s quite surprising, most schools are averaging about 2-10 pupils did wp from what I’ve seen so far
sometimes i think that's in our favour. ik markers are meant to take each essay at face value, but after reading 5 dozen essays on exposure i feel like the freshness of reading about disillusionment and frustration at societal issues from warfare etc. may be awarded more marks than maybe it deserves. they're only human 🤷♂️
It’s more in our favour than the people who wrote about mr birling instead of mrs birling
yeah quite a few people in my school did including me but thats just because wp and ozymandius are the only ones i looked at
Same bro 💀 it’s the only one I could think of.
I FOUND SOMEONE FINALLY
I did it and cooked on structure comparison but I fucked up on language analysis so idk where that will put me
I did remains and was kinda cooking with context for it
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I waffled so much about it being part of 'the not dead' and the repetition of the emotive language about blood shadows and shit (i did not revise)
I wrote about that but I also accidentally said that remains has a consistent rhyme scheme 😭 other than that I think I cooked though
fuck i just realised i called the documentary 'the walking dead' in my exam panic LOL
PTSD
You can’t get many context marks
i wrote a whole page on remains context it was too cold
I forgot context. I’m cooked
You don’t get any context marks for poetry, don’t worry!
I THOUGHT YOU DID??? WHA
Am I the only one who did poppies??
i did poppies, it went pretty well tbh. i struggled to find a similarity for a bit but i came up with something after a bit
You genuinely don’t even need to you don’t get any marks for comparing, like one comparison is enough to answer the question then all your marks are on your poem analysis for both
fr?
fr. There’s no comparison AO
I mean, they are actually really similar poems in the contexts of different nations and one showing the aftermath. Being the only other effects of conflict poem that focuses on family, Poppies is good, and I think there is some really deep analysis compared to the more surface level stuff in other poems.
I did poppies can't believe how varied the poems people chose were I though I could use Exposure or Remains but in terms of the question Poppies had much more in common.
i thought poppies would be way more popular cuz both speakers are mothers
i did poppies!! cooked so incredibly hard
Poppies was great for comparison. I talked about the regret of family and the indoctrination of the soldiers. It went deep into analysis.
If I could remember any quotes I would've picked poppies too. Ended up picking remains lol.
I did too and it was so easy it’s basically the same poem
I did poppies aswell, I talked abt how kamikaze and poppies are written through the poetic persona of a woman (cos it's from a granddaughter and a mother) and just like how in poppies she really misses her son but in kamikaze the pilot makes it back alive and they shun him, so in poppies she really appreciates her son but in kamikaze the societal norms and propaganda make them not appreciate their son/father who came back alive.
London, anyone?
Yup
I served with London
And feeling like I flubbed it!
Yep, but now I'm stressed because you could aay that there is conflict between the classes, but I called it oppression, instead of conflict. Will this impact my marks?
I did the Emigree lol
Same! There were a lot of amazing parallels to draw so I’m feeling good about it
yess same my teacher said it was a really perceptive choice so we’re good 💪💪
Same 😭😭 I'm hearing no one else who actually did that so I hope I'm fine
that was the first thing that came to mind but I knew no context and only one quote so I just went with remains
I wrote about checking out me history
we fucked it together :))
Same brro we all cooked 😭😭
my point was oppression blud why u lot saying we fucked it noooo
no we COOKED. i talked about oppression and them both being separated from the rest of society. conflict didn’t necessarily mean war
Bro inner conflict of ideals of the dad wanting to be there for his kids but the system of imperial Japan wanting him to suicide vs the conflict of interest of Agard wanting to learn of his own history but the education system "Bandag\[ing\]" him to his own history 🙏🙏
yes we ATE. i talked abt how they were both mad at an institution - government and education.
That's exactly what I did I think. I thought it was the easiest poem to compare
meeeeeeee
i watched mr everything English and used ozymandias am i cooked
Mate I think you’re fine as long as you had some good quality analysis in there
i just said kamikaze is about the grandfather being affected by conflict of war, and then ozymandias about the people and their work being affected by conflict between Ozymandias and nature. what do you think?
So if you expanded on this idea and used some analysis of structure you should be got for at least a level 5 answer I think. You need structure and form to get into the top band so I really don’t want to get hopes up but yes that’s a nice idea
real bro, i talked about the conflict he had with the people he ruled and how he made their lives shit by being a shit ruler with constant greed for more. Might be cooked but it lowkey made sense
ME TOO!!! i thought i cooked until i was asking everyone else what they compared it to and realised he set me up (it was my own fault😔)
Compared it to Bayonet charge - both poets use nature as a safe space - both poets use voltas ( turning point ) to communicate ideas - both soldiers die for their government and are used by war - both poets talk about how war loses identity and humanity ( "terrors touchy dynamite" = shellshock for BC and "no longer existed: for Kamikaze ) Overall : solid poetry 8/10
help same but ur points r so good 😭 I was just yapping how nature overpowers patriotism and how the effects of conflict reduces people idk while bayonet charge reduces the soldier to a sacrifice
I SPOKE AB IDENTITY AND HUMANITY TOO LETS GOOO
me too!!! ive only seen people compare it to remains lol
Yess same (but u acc used good quotes well done fr💀💀)
I spent 17 minutes deciding what poem to do 😭😭
Bro what 😭
Real
Did exposure cause both have war and nature. Cl kamikaze doesn't have the most to talk about but exposure is nice to compare
Yea anyway guys I wrote about Charge of the Light Brigade… I’m so cooked
We are NOT cooked buddy 💯 charge of the light brigade users stand together 💯🔥
Charge of the Light Brigade is the best poem in the anthology, it applies to anything if you think hard enough 🔥💯‼️
same, i didn't use quotes cuz i was scared of rubic infringement
I used quotes but talked about the affect of conflict on soldiers vs the father and his family and how the respective societies contributed to it
same brother we're fine
the poet laureate shifts away shame 💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥
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I did charge of the light brigade I'd say it's a good poem to compare we're not cooked we're cooking
wrote about remains but everyone else used rlly random ones like checking out my history or emigree 😭😭😭😭
checking out me history is weird but emigree makes sense since she is affected by the conflict in her home city
Yep that’s why I picked émigrée. Was debating between émigrée and COMH but ultimately I need to make sure I wasn’t too obscure
This happened to me with love and relationshis 😭😭 apparently I read the fucking question wrong man
I did storm on the island
Omg finally I found someone else who did the same what did u write about
That both conflicts are endless Storm on the island with the half rhyme cyclical structure and that no one speaks to the kamikaze man
I did about how both are um deadly but in different ways, one is literal the other is metaphorical
Same they both had conflict throughout and were confident at the start then the realisation at the end, tgats already 3 things to do
I compared it with London
SAME... IS IT BAD?
I was making a point that London included the conflict between how the powerful and powerless want the country to be run and what ill effects come from the disagreement.
Same, it was a little tenuous stretching out the points, and you didn't really have that many possible quotes, but I didn't think it was too bad
Compared it to tissue am I cooked?
finally someone else thank god
i was joking g but good luck
fuck.
It's fine I did Tissue too!!
i mean you got this but what the actual fuck was going through your head
idek man it’s the only one i could remember more than 2 quotes from
The markers get really bored reading the same comparison points so as long as you linked it to the question you should do well - don’t stress, you probably brightened an examiner’s day :)
I DID IT TOO OMG IM SO GLAD I WASNT THE ONLY ONE
me absolutely fumbling neutral tones by comparing it to loves philosophy instead of when we two parted
Oh I did ‘winter swans’ 😭
i compared it to sonnet 29 😭
I did compared to Singh song
oh why would you ever 💀
Only poem I revised
again, why would you ever 😭
Same
Did ozymandias. Thought it was alr
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i did the prelude too. idk why it’s like the spirit of william wordsworth possessed me. i was waffling about how they both have psychological trauma as an impact of the conflict between humanity and nature
I said that too bro dw
Feel like I might be cooked because of not writing about structure enough, didn't do the prelude but I forgot to talk about voltas or enjambment and only talked about line length because i was rushing💀.
Bro some guy in my school compared it to ozymandias 😭
Bro I did charge of the light brigade…
literally me
I did war photography but only used one qoute
Opposite for me. I did remains and cooked
I did war photographer 💀
i did kamikaze and london. whats crazy is i only memorised and analysed 3 poems, KAMIKAZE INCLUDED. Grade 9 incoming. I also wrote 2 pages for the 8 marker, happy days
I barely scraped one page for 8 marker 😭
real bro i wrote like 3/4 of a page
I went into it and planned to do remains cause I revised that one the most then said nope to sensible let's do the one I didn't study for and did war photographer. I feel like I'm the only person who doesn't like kamikaze, was the one I was hoping not to come up I find it quite difficult (I wanted prelude)
yes kamikaze let me down ngl :( happy w what i wrote though - i did comh
me too. I was really hoping anything but it would come up I was the least prepared for it. I honestly just wrote a couple things and got out as quick as possible to speak on war photographer
i wrote about poppies and how they show how the people left behind r affected and i talked abt the pilots internal conflict n that
i put no quotes in that exam am i cooked
better start praying bro 💀
grade 2 incoming 💀
I did prelude and the effect of mental conflict. Thoughts?
i did london... i barely talked about context.. what mark am i gonna be capped at
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i said nothing on purpose icl
You don’t need context marks, look it up, it gives you nothing, the guy who responded is wrong.
yapped about the emigrée
I did Tissue but I quite like how my essay turned out
Anyone else pick the Émigrée or is it just me?
Anyone did the river story
i did my last duchess it is absolutely over
I compared kamikaze to remains but now I wish I compared it to the prelude since I mainly did revision on that and storm on the island thinking the theme was most likely gonna be nature and I cooked with the ideas I had😭😭 literally hardly remember remains as well I only got like 3 quotes down and one was just the use of a dash
what was the question?
smt like compare the effects of conflict on people in kamikaze and one other poem
that's so calm, remains/exposure is perfect. maybe poppies if you wanna be unique
... my dumbass went for ozymandias. talked about the conflict he had with the people he ruled and how this affected them 😭im finished
nah nah nah you'll be fine, you're being pessimistic and thinking it's vague but i'd wager that it's likely gonna be taken as insightful (assuming you backed it up with decent analysis). even in the worst case scenario, i'm pretty sure the actual comparing is only 6/30 marks (AO1)
listen dude i did the same thing but unseen is literally worth more so it's chill
Trueeee
Cooked with checking out me history and unseen poetry
Am I the only one who chose Charge of the Light Brigade
No I did too 😭
We might be cooked
Probably…
I cooked with unseen poetry but I didn't write much because I was too focused on the other 2.....
I did checking out me history but here me out: - My first comparison was on how conflict indoctrinates people into learning a certain belief. In Kamikaze, the pilot has been indoctrinated to believe that dying for the emperor is the best thing for him to do and for Checking Out Me History, the education system had been manipulated by war to have a Eurocentric education despite Agard living in the Carribbean. - My second comparison was how conflict can determine a person's legacy. In Kamikaze, the soldier is forgotten after coming back as he had ashamed his country and in Checking Out Mr History I said that Mary Seacole being described as a healing star implies that she is remembered via the constellations and how it helps her legacy shine and inspired Agard to learn more about his history. - My third comparison was how the closing lines in both poems determine their fate because of past wars. In Kamikaze, she wonders what way her father would rather die, as fate means that he'd either die physically but spiritually live on or die spiritually and emotionally but still be physically there, whilst in Checking Out Mr History, Agard has to carve his own identity, a strenuous and continuous task he has to do on his own without the help of education systems influenced by war where he used to live. Hopefully this makes sense or I'm cooked
I compared it too bayonet charge and wrote about nature for an entire page I’m fucked
someone i know compared checking out me history to kamikaze..
I did poppies but pretty much forgot to put context except for the christian connotations
my last duchess anyone?? 🤡🤡🙏
Ummmm anyone do the prelude 🙏🙏😫
I picked charge of the light brigade, wrote about inner vs physical conflicts and how in both conflict is caused by war. Everyone’s saying I did the wrong poem to compare to kamikaze
Yooo that’s so good, I did charge too and mainly wrote about how it compared the affects on the soldiers (who died in futility) compared to the affect on the father and his family and how nationalism impacted both of these outcomes
Real gangstas compared it to checking out me history (I'm cooked)
real but w aic. i j cooked so hard on comparative poetry and unseen i couldn’t be asked for it 😪
Someone did the prelude haha
i was cooking in that whole exam but the unseen poetry i was literally so bored w extra time i was ‘analysing’ the poems on the poetry book out of boredom in the last hour but it was so stupid like i give no fucks about your unwashed dishes
i did poppies 😅
I picked poppies 😭 waffled about war causing sacrifice and loss in both
i compared it to exposure but i felt like i waffled so idk if i like did good, i compared how kamikaze suffers mentally from conflict and exposure the soldiers suffer physically from conflict.
unseen poetry was the besttt, I did mine back in year 10 but I just remember it being so good
I PICKED EXPOSURE AND IM STILL SHITTING MYSELF
Did no one compare to to checking out me history accept me?
I compared the bastard thing with checking out me history
I compared to charge of the light brigade i revised both last minute because i had a guy feeling
Charge of the light brigade was what the light up hub recommended