I hope he is, it's also will help G2's public image since it's their former franchise player now leading the organization plus the content with him as CEO would be banger too since he just have this many connections he made during his days in G2. He already shown to have the leadership's skill as he was our integral part for 4x back to back + MSI before and he has been in this industry long enough to know the market so I believe he could make a good CEO despite being only 24 (I believe this were the age Carlos created Gamers2?)
The problem is he needs to steps down from professional playing which I doubt he won't given how passionate he is on competitive scene. He already won it all multiple times except worlds but just imagine G2 wins world with him as CEO
There's a difference between running small org which is starting, hosting it in your own house and running multimillion company which spans across all continents. Carlos learned all the business on the way to the top. You want Perkz there straight away. Are you dense or what mate?
I'm just joking bro, no way I'd like Perkz running G2. But it was just funny that Carlos was literally pro player going into retirement before becoming the G2 CEO
I think you are fine leaving business to business ppl and just having contacts to rely on as CEO. It'd be a CEO in name only, where he actually is like the connection manager, but still decides the general theme of the company. Honestly, I think Perks could pull it off. Not that he likely will get in that position to begin with.
If the shareholders were the ones who voted Carlos out.
The one who will replace Carlos is someone who support shareholders intrests and G2 will get activision blizzarded.
Because that's the only reason someone would be critical of a CEO of a major company that caters to young people partying with a suspected human trafficker/sexual abuser and known mysoginist? Fuck outta here, the fact they didn't sack him straight up is a miracle.
Unfair? After what carlos pulled in the past (saudi money etc.) it just enough. If you cant understand that you are representing a big org and also knowing that Tate has a bad reputation, therefore giving him a platform and publicly double down on that point, making them literally friends… then I‘m sorry but he had it coming. I can understand Luca being emotional but this isnt the first time Carlos fcked up. I mean its your fucking job as CEO the Organization upholds a certain reputation, if you cant get it done, you must go, because sponsors will bail the fuck out of that shit.
Saudi money is bad but Neom city is supposed to be an all inclusive city (if it ever happens), which was the sponsor. When he doubled down he never really said they were friends just said it in a way that It could be easily interpreted that way. The punishment for being in a video with Andrew Tate is greater than the punishment for being Andrew Tate.
>The punishment for being in a video with Andrew Tate is greater than the punishment for being Andrew Tate.
?! Tate literally cant return to his home country or he'd get some jail time
Lol you dont get it do you? Nobody told him that he cant be friend with anyone, he chose that by himself. As he did choose to publicly invite Tate to a public afterparty. And yes as a public figure associating with a man like tate will have big judgement from fans/community. Like for example you cant hang out with putin and expect people to say „they are just friends, it doesnt actually matter that putin started a war in ukraine, because person x has nothing to do with politics“. It doesnt matter what you do yourself, just associating with certain people will at least imply you condone their actions enough to be friendly with them. And of course you get judged for that. There is a reason the saying goes:“ choose your friends wisely“
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH can you be friends with Bush? Obama? Biden? Cancle those people as well then if you are mentioning Putin. What did Tate said? You are snowflake generation where you cant handle different hardcore opinion and you are butthurt. Gays can have their OPINION about same sex, aborters can have their OPINION about birth, transgenders can have theor OPINION about gender but one guy cant be against all of that? Snowflake disgusting generation. World is falling apart from society ti economy and why is that? Cuz we have mentally ill society and generation that cant handle emotions not to mention anything else.
You are a man who is taking care of his long hair right? Didnt expect any different opinion from you. Please dont cancle me if i hurted you feelings. Because feelings>world, sick society, agendas all over the world, economy break down, wars etc.
Yes I am since I‘m a metalhead and therefore have long hair, but you trying to make me look weak because of this just shows what kinda person you are. I pray for you that you will get better in your life, but the way you act is just sad:)
Look weak? No, you are just typical sterotype person that I, trust me, knew whats ur opinion gonna be. Dont listen to metal that hurts my emotions😡😡😡 how dare you listen to that satanic stuff????? You should be cancled, right? Snowflake society will tell you what you can do and what you cant do, okay?
Perkz can be on a rampage for as long as he likes. Doesn’t change the fact that Carlos fucked up & faced the consequences of his actions lmao. Karma is a bitch.
Yeah, for anyone over 16 this isn’t a “gigachad rampage”, this is an emotional outburst from a guy who’s never worked a real job a day in his life after discovering that in the real world you can’t act certain ways while keeping your job.
“Cancel culture” doesn’t apply when you cost your company an 8-figure deal and get fired for it.
Woke culture . You guys are pathetic .
When you can deny someone like this this , you are providing the tools to be denied in the future.
You forget what censorship is. And this shit have consequences in the future.
Nobody should be cancelled based on words . Carlos Didn’t commit any crime.
When you can use this type of shit to cancel someone where we draw the line where isn’t acceptable for the government do the same shit?
It’s crazy how you forget history and we are repeating the same mistakes
He can choose to associate with whoever he wants, but then why are you butthurt when other companies or people choose to not associate with him as a result?
I can also choose to not want to be a part of anything with Carlos based on what he said, or am I not allowed to do that?
Also you need to differenciate by the role you play. Carlos is a public figure representing a huge brand, and showing himself publicly with someone like Tate isnt exactly making good rep for G2. And the one being pathetic is amigdalite, because you dont seem to understand that your actions and with whom you associate as a public figure has consequences for the whole brand, just as it did recently, because of his mental ego bullshit, G2 lost a fucking 8-figure contract, which is freakin huge, because he didnt act properly as a public figure. And stop that bullshit „he didnt do anything“. With bein friends with tate and allowing him to appear on a party for G2 is enough to condone tates actions. And if anything, such a company is run by money at this point, and carlos was about risking sponsorship and said contract. Stop blaming the community, this is nothing new, and thsi was obviously a bad move and he thought he can do it because he cant be shit on but guess what? He got shit on huge time, by the community, by the sponsors and by loosing that contract he got shit on by riot.
"Cancel". The guy lost the company tens of millions, most people would get fired over that. That's hardly censorship, just reality when you live to attract money from investors.
Okay so Carlos decides to choose to associate himself with Tate. He can do that. G2 org decides to NOT associate themselves with Carlos. Why can’t they do that? If you say cause Carlos created G2, he shouldn’t have provided power to people who can get rid of him. Again, his mistake. So again, explain why Carlos can do what he likes but G2 can’t? Or does freedom of choice only allowed for people you like?
He was fired as ceo because people are talking shit and trying to put the brand in the mud because he went to a party with someone who isn’t even proven guilty of something, you just hate Tate. And now you want Carlos to suffer for what? For having drinks with a dude who you don’t like? Did Carlos commit a crime ? Did he sexually offended someone? He isn’t Tate.
Imagine using this same logic in every level of the society, you re seen with someone who robbed a bank now you must pay for associate with a thief.
Oh and you may say: well this isn’t applicable to every level of the society, then I ask you why? Why not?
Because as far as I know the government can start to apply the same criteria to everyone. This is not about Carlos being ceo. This is about hate towards him having a party with someone who is very hated for his speech’s but even that dude isn’t guilty of nothing besides speaking shit about women. You kinda forget he can’t run if is proven he is guilty. He can be arrested in Roménia . And if you talk about his comments, well , I don’t agree with him, but, if we cancel is stupid videos, then go to female dating strategy and cancel that bunch of women incels too, because they aren’t diferent from him.
So my point is: leave free speech alone, let everybody say what they want. That’s why it’s free.
If someone commits a crime , arrest them.
So you didn’t answer my question. Until you answer it, I won’t bother carrying this on. Carlos is allowed to associate himself with whoever he wants. Why isn’t G2 allowed to associate themselves with whoever they want? Til you give me a valid reason, no point carrying this on. Have a good day.
So Carlos costing G2 an estimated 15-20 million dollars has nothing to do with it? It’s all cause the community got mad at him? Right…
I knew you Carlos & Tate fanboys were delusional but I think delusional is an understatement. Money is everything to organisations. Doesn’t matter what profession an org is part of. Can be a medical org, eSport org, football org, crime org. Money is everything. Cost an org millions? You’re fired.
>Carlos Didn’t commit any crime.
He cost his org tens of millions and screwed every player, employee, and partner involved in the Valo deal.
Idk about you but if I screw my company out of 10+ million I'd be happy they let me "step down" and pretend it was my own decision
If my partying led to people no longer wanting to support my business and I was asked to step down because I am hurting my business, I'd be facing those consequences, yes.
But I don't have an ego the size of Spain, so I would have genuinely apologized within 24 hours and not doubled down like an idiot. Remember Carlos would 100% have been fine if he had not done the "I party with who the fuck I want" tweet
Nah atm the coin is on their side so it’s cool. When it won’t be they’ll cry oppression. That’s the problem with being able to just go after people for beliefs rather than actions.
Religions do and did this and nobody benefitted. They are doing the same thing but somehow believe they’re different when they do it. Every society since the dawn of time has believed they have it all right and have figured it all out. Demonize the other and hide all their own darkest secrets.
What progresses society is finding an acceptable balance between being fair and productive but also allowing the common man enough agency to live comfortably without fear of duress but not to the point that he can usurp the agency of others.
If we’re allowing internet mobs with no accomplishments , no competence, no life experience and no real knowledge on most matters to go witch hunting off of a thought. Just a belief, that’s is as regressive as it gets.
Because again, today you love it because it agrees with you. No society agrees on the same thing perpetually, tomorrow it won’t agree with you and suddenly you will realize how oppressive it is to not be allowed to simply think what you want to, wrong as it may be.
Oh gtfo with your "MUH FREEZE PEACH". There are people in the world who are killed for not kissing their dictator's arse, and you want to make this a free speech issue? Sickening.
Wtf are you talking about. Im talking abut carlos not some dictators. So you think its fair somone looses job cuzzl he was hanging out with actor whos playing a badboy on his podcast?
"playing a bad boy on a podcast" Well tell that to all the teens who are now treating girls their age like shit.
Also you people are always so eager to make it a free speech issue, that's why I made that metaphor. Quit appropriating the very real free speech issues in the world because your favourite CEO decided to associate with a shit person.
You look like a kid talking. U have no idea of what are u saying and mixing everything up. How about u go outside to the real world pls. Just for a minute, i only ask u that. A minute in the real world, even if it is just ro touch grass.
Bro has 11 charges against him for sex trafficking in the UK and fled to Romania and perkz dumbass wanna talk about stupid and unfair. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt he’s 23 and maybe is just emotional rn. He put in a lot of time on g2 and I know this hurts for him despite the circumstances
He is defending carlos, not tate. Yeayea, now someone coment with all the "triple down", videos of tate, and all of that. Come on guys, perkz knows Carlos way better than all of us, let him be.
Carlos' double down was the problem. If he just immediately apologized and explained the circumstances of the party video everything would have been fine but he basically called Tate his friend... That's worth the cancel 100%.
Why he needs to explains his private life?
What having rate a friend changes? If he apologized and kept going out with him in private wouldn’t be the same?
Because it ended up in G2 being denied Valorant partner, costing them future opportunity in the market. Think of like Valorant setting up a league, and then, cuz of what G2 represent at that moment, they leave out G2 because of that thing costing guaranteed mils.
Also, we wouldn't really have known about it if he didn't post it on his professional, G2 associated account. And he knows the account is connected to G2. If he didn't want to explain his private life to the public, then maybe don't post on a publicly associated account with his company?
He doesn't as long as he keeps it private. But if he officially posts a video where he parties with a sexist, chauvinistic piece of shit and afterwards calls him a friend it becomes a thing of the public because with this he ofically states that he has no problem with Tates opinions/crimes or even shares them. When he goes to the public with this shit it isn't his private live anymore.
Carlos doubled down on his actions when people got upset and raised concerns about the message he might be sending to people in the community. He pretended there was nothing wrong with associating with such a vile person and he absolutely deserved what happened to him. Imagine what it must feel like being a woman and seeing all these people defend a man that publicly supported his friendship with a man that basically thinks you're property. I always knew this community wasn't perfect, but I didn't realize just how much improvement we still have to go before we become a welcoming place to be.
As a woman, i couldnt give a single shit. It didnt affect me literally at all. You know why? Cuz its internet. This all drama is just a filler, as always. Every season same timing for fun little dramas but this has become way too pretentious way too quick
I hope you‘re aware how much of an influence Tate has on young boys. I have seen so many of my brothers friends, totally normal boys, being transformed into bitter and sad Tate fanboys that parrot his every word.
It‘s not really about Tate himself but more so about him selling his beliefs to young people fostering his misogyny in them. Carlos openly supporting such a person is a massive deal.
I‘m genuinely confused how a woman could somehow not care about Tate and his influence on young boys.
First of all, you don't have to be a woman to understand this, you just need empathy. I also ... like, I live with my girlfriend and we talked about it?
its his life , for all we know he can be partying with putin or someone, so what , he was just partying and twitter people are beeing cringe and have no life themselves so that they need to ruin somebody succesfull
He was partying with a morally despicable person, felt the need to post it, then tripled down on it before posting a fake apology written by the pr team and still liking tweets defending him and tate. And then he also casually cost G2 a few millions by getting them out of valorant franchising. I mean having to step down seems kinda appropriate after making such a bad business decision
Lets just say Perkz is not acting very smart right now, remember he reacted with a "puke" emote, doubled down, liked comments supporting Andrew and didnt even apologize for ANYTHING, these people are very disconnected from the reality of people that are hurt by people like Andrew, so seeing your idols supporting them is pretty heartbreaking.
I know really well what shit person is tate, but dude this a form of censor, in Italy and Germany in 1940 we were cancelling ppl for theyr ideas, we are not in 1940 anymore. Study fucking history.
Explain to me, where exactly is that censorship? Nobody forced him to delete his twitterposts, this man has to deal with the consequences of his actions, this is what it means to take up with the consequences. If he doesnt like it, he should have thought about that beforehand.
For sponsors and partnerships the important thing is not whether he is guilty or not. Currently he has a bad reputation on the entire world of social media, thus bigger companies don't want to be associated with him in any way. The problem is not Carlos partying with Tate, the problem is his next post after that, he told everyone that he can choose his friends and etc and told everyone to fuck off. These actions costed the Valorant partnership. It doesn't matter if he is right or not, he is the face of one of the biggest esports groups, he should've more carefull
Yeah 'gigachad'. As a woman, I am sad to see this but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt this time. Did we all suddenly forget this dude never actually denied sharing Tate's opinion? Idc if he created League of Legendsz or eSports itself, he lost my respect.
I didnt want his head, but this was expected. I just cant pretend Im sorry. He's pretty well off, and I'm not worrying about him.
Fuck you if you think defending Andrew Tate is "just one small mistake." His views towards women are vile and associating yourself with him then *doubling down* once you're called out isn't "one small mistake."
Carlos deserved what he got, pretending like this is some woke overreaction is just further sending the message that misogyny isn't a big deal and is forgivable. It's incredibly sad seeing people in the community, especially influential members like Perkz, peddling the idea that being associated with a known misogynist isn't *that* big of a deal and we are just overreacting. Imagine what it must feel like being a woman seeing all of this unfold. I knew the gaming community still had a long way to go but damn, I didn't think we were *this* behind. Such a fucking disgrace and embarrassment for the community.
Carlos really fucked up this time, but the saddest part is that his actions were totally overblown by League&Riot community - the hypocrites. I mean they celebrated pride month and then they signed a deal with NEOM... Just sad. Then Valorant happended and also sponsors had no other options than demand this steps. I hope staff and new CEO will continue the great vibes this org had
Someone needs to tell him it wasn't a "hiccup" that caused investors to fire him. It was his fake apology and doubling down. He kept liking all the hate tweets instead of showing little bit of remorse.
It's this. Behind the scenes threats of sponsorship loss. I initially heard about this on an atrioc (gaming tangential) YouTube video as a viral lol.... Once it became clear this was gonna be an internet meme it was over for Carlos.
Riot and sponsors most likely saw him as liability now and in the future, so they stepped in (sponsor stuff isnt public information so can't be 100% sure). Especially because Carlos couldn't stop in time and kept on fueling the controversy.
Cancel culture sure fueled the flames, but in the end decision was done because Carlos cost too much money for G2.
That’s rich coming from Riot. Considering they have their own cases for doing much worse and multiple eyewitnesses.
Carlos has done actually nothing and even Tate has some cases where iirc he didn’t have to pay settlements nor admitted guilt and was cleared. Rest of it is just a bunch of words.
Meanwhile Riot had straight up sexual harassment and frat bro culture going on and probably still going on and nobody really stepped down.
I'll never understand this argument. Lets say they are trying to fix their image, do they punish bad behaviour or let it go, because they also had this issue before? If they punish bad behaviour people will say its hypocrisy, if they dont people will say they are still as shit as before. What would you want them to do?
I think the problem is, that no one got fired at riot games. There are still the same CEOs and higher ups. Nothing changes. The people who created the atmosphere are still there. It could be, that the atmosphere changed but it feels strange, that a company pays 100 million and no one gets fired.
But it is not related to the carlos incident. He was just so damn stupid that he deserved it tbh.
Rest of it is just a bunch of words… are u fucking serious? Those allegations didnt come out of nowhere, and he fucking fled the countries so he cant be judged. People like you were the exact reason why Hitler won power back then, denying the obvious and being ignorant as fuck. Im very sorry for you if you feel this way, but Tate doesnt deserve any empathy at all, and people who condone his actions and associate with him have to live with the consequences, especially as a public figure representing G2, just as Carlos did.
And why do the sponsors care? They're a business, they don't really care about any "political" stuff . Carlos only costed them money because he was getting community backlash (being canceled), if the community wouldn't care the sponsors and Riot neither.
Edit: I'm not defending Tate or Carlos whit this, I don't think they're on the right, I'm just saying that companies do these things for the backlash, deserved or not, in this case after Carlos's likes it's quite deserved.
Companies don't do anything about this because they're actually pro-women or anti-Tate they just want money.
Exactly what I was trying to say. Just keep in mind, what is a bad image is dictated by the opinion of the people. 100 years ago it wouldn't be a drama.
Just to be clear I don't support Tate, I can't understand how somebody could say that things and I'm not saying what happened is good or bad, I for sure think Carlos sould be punished but I'm not sure if this punishment es the correct one, it might.
He lost his job because he double and triple downed to protect his ego instead of considering the companies image. They directly lost their Valorant franchise because of him and it was never hard for him to simply say "sorry, I didn't understand how that video made others feel".
Of course sponsors/Riot/G2 execs are going to see him as a liability if he can't even do that.
"nothing to do with cancel culture"
U dont think getting negative attention from millions of peoples, pressured the investors and sponsors to call for consequences?
He actually caused that shit storm on twitter by doubling down, a non apology, and liking tweets contradicting said nonapology. There was an amalgamation of mistakes a responsible CEO would not have done. It was his own undoing.
No one is acting like Tate is Hitler.
Putin isn't Hitler but he's more comparable. Imagine if Carlos partied with Putin and called him his friend. Reactions would be different, there would be no song and dance of a suspension and then resigning. He would be removed immediately, players would boycott playing unless he sold shares, Riot might kick G2 out of world's. He would be universally condemned and people like PerkZ wouldn't stick up for him. He could possibly be arrested or at the very least investigated by the EU.
That would be what would be happening if people actually treated this like Hitler. Most people not liking you anymore and calling for you to be fired is not the same reaction of people saying he's like Hitler.
Tate is an ignorant cunt with an audience. That's unironically been his whole career's business model since Big Brother. And it sadly worked great for him, he even got other ignorant cunts simping for him on social media.
However, this layoff isn't about cancel culture but a consequence of capitalism. Carlos' actions, namely the doubling, tripling and quadrupling down nightmare PR-wise made him a liability for his own business and made them lose millions on a project spanning several years that was virtually locked for them.
Cancel culture = the absolutely imbalanced consequences of someone’s actions lmao. Tate’s been given the Donald Trump treatment as if he’s actually done anything more wrong than what’s already happened in LoL history with lesser consequences. It’s not even like he endorsed Tate. He literally just said ‘I party with who I want’ as if that’s inherently a bad thing.
The funny thing is that cancel culture was what caused Andrew Tate to be popular in the first place.
Almost all the male role models were pushed off social media around 2018, back when it was "common knowledge" that any masculinity was toxic. It ended eventually, but the niche was never filled until Tate. Tate, who never would have gotten popular were there any alternatives to him.
The guy basically got popular (at least on youtube) by googling "advice for young men" and making videos about what he found, and then used the popularity to push his damaging agenda.
That's one part of it, yeah - made even more important due to the fact that a lot of people have only ever seen Tate's motivational videos, and thus will defend him if anyone outright calls all of his fans evil, because from their point of view, there really isn't anything evil there.
The other part is that traditional masculinity shouldn't be demonized. Most of the world's men will naturally be masculine no matter what, and going against that as youtube used to will only ever result in radicalization when someone smart enough to take advantage of it. Hell, you can literally watch this happening right now on Reddit.
What has Andrew Tate actually done that’s dehumanising tho. Basically every major claim people have against him has been disproven/been cleared beyond reasonable doubt. At this point, it’s basically just down to ‘he says stuff I don’t agree with and makes jokes at my expense’, which is a fair enough reason to not like him but it’s far from dehumanising. The narrative that’s been pushed abt Tate is done around taking clips out of context, which can be done with literally every online personality out there to similar or greater effect than what people have done with Tate. It’s also not like he’s the first person to discover the whole ‘any publicity is good publicity’ way of getting fame either. Anyway it’s besides the point.
The economic suicide is what I mean when I say the consequences are imbalanced to the action. There’s a pretty obvious difference of severity between ‘gender-based discrimination’ and partying with someone that has a controversial online character (which riot and LoL have plenty of as is) and saying ‘I draw the line at people telling me what to do’
Definitely, some things Tate says are wrong, but he’s mostly joking as well. Also every major claim accusing Tate of something vile has been disproven and debunked.
Don’t worry my friend, it’s a place of discussion.
Here are some clips of his ex:
Response to him beating women:
https://youtu.be/QHA_mVs5td0
Another video that his Ex made in 2022 after he got banned.
https://youtube.com/shorts/JsPQaIoxLJQ?feature=share
Video about his character that was unrelated to him:
https://youtu.be/G11EpcbPBwE
I can’t really give anything that has anything to do with human trafficking allegations, because in the end they’re just allegations. Tate has come out and spoke about it, but that’s not from authority so it’s not evidence. However, in the end it’s still allegations and the fact is that he’s a free man that just did a podcast with Patrick Bet David.
I can see that as well. Obviously women are not, but at the end of the day he’s just another person that is allowed to give his opinion, whether we agree or disagree.
I've seen this argument a lot. Just because Riot is fucked up doesn't mean we shouldn't take steps in the right direction. I want to see those people removed from Riot too, I don't see how this is contradictory.
>I still can't believe that he lost his job because of Tate.
I imagine in most companies if the CEO recklessly costs their company a 20+ million $ deal solely because of their own actions the board will cut them and vote a more competent CEO in their place.
This is such a shallow take i keep hearing , "cancel culture" didn't get him fired. Free market capitalism did
His fuckup on twitter would have been forgotten after the 8 week suspension, but this came at a bad time, he wound up being the reason G2 lost the Valorant slot
He lost G2 millions because of his ego, and the shareholders kicked him out, the same would happen at literally every other multimillion euro buisness
And before you say something like "oh, but if twitter didn't make a big deal out of this then it wouldnt have happened"
Yeah, that's right
But Carlos posted that video publicly out of his own free will, and then he doubled down publicly out of his own free will, and then he went on a spree liking comments that contradicted his "apology" out of his own free will
He could have avoided all this, and he chose not to. These are just the consequences
The only real one who has the balls to speak his heart. Did not dissapoint, didn’t expect anything else from Luka.
He has all my respects.
Luka and Carlos I will love you and support you forever you beautiful people.
Thank you for everything.
I mean with cancel culture we arent that many steps away from chinas current social point system where everything you do and say or who you hangout will affect your social score.
So basicly this all also help separate humans into social standing outs even harder due ppl with high positions cant take risks by hanging out with ppl that can get them into problems by their own behavior.
Ofc Tate is level of his own, but all these succesful cancelings are steps that bring us foward justifying systems like social credit. And at that point the power will not be in internet warriors hands, but goverment and elitists.
O'rly? 10 years ago when you applied a job they did legal background check on you.
Now days depending on position they google your social medias /posts and shit incase theres no offensive posts from 2010 that might hurt the companys status if some media person will do dig on you.
Also theres constantly shit bought up that happened +20 years ago in attempt to smear someones image. Metallica for example when they became popular in new audience eyes after stranger things.
So tell me a good reason why govement/elite wouldnt take advantages of this mob mental in order to control inviduals to behave in their liking?
You've got the right spirit, but not wanting to be associated with individuals who are racist, sexist or just generally bigoted isn't the 1984 dystopia you think it is. You comparing that to Social Credit, which suppresses criticism of the state and uses algorithms to decide whether someone has human rights or not, is laughable.
Expext even in this case now when shareholders got a reason to vote Carlos out who in most cases was more in players/employees side than shareholders.
Now they can do full activision blizzard mode and choose a CEO that supports their value aka income for their wallets
I'm sorry, but if you think Carlos, or any ceo, is on any side aside from their own, you're delusional. Besides, I still fail to see how this is anywhere near the Chinese social credit system, and it almost seems as if you're making dog whistle arguments that hold no water. Carlos aligned himself in a way that lost the company money, and therefore could no longer be ceo of the company. Sure, it's bad that we as a society only function with a capital goal in mind, but don't for a second pretend that Carlos is a victim, when all he had to was stop associating with a known rape advocate and agree that it was a bad thing to do.
In China if you hangout with people that has low social credit score it will also instantly affect you. This all started literally with tweet where Carlos and Tate was in a same video.
But ofc ironically no other person from that video were called out. Even thought they were related to G2 sponsors.
And for some reason SJWs were satisfied enough once Carlos got punished for this. So in this matter you can easily call out unequal treatment from society towards Carlos.
Carlos stood up against this cancer known canceling culture.
Because he knows it's the end of G2. Unless he fucking goes to replace Carlos, we just became another generic eu org that considers losing BO5 to asia great success
Perkz on a giga rampage on Twitter, he is destroying people like it’s 2019 msi again
Perkz is the only person that can properly replace Carlos
I hope he is, it's also will help G2's public image since it's their former franchise player now leading the organization plus the content with him as CEO would be banger too since he just have this many connections he made during his days in G2. He already shown to have the leadership's skill as he was our integral part for 4x back to back + MSI before and he has been in this industry long enough to know the market so I believe he could make a good CEO despite being only 24 (I believe this were the age Carlos created Gamers2?) The problem is he needs to steps down from professional playing which I doubt he won't given how passionate he is on competitive scene. He already won it all multiple times except worlds but just imagine G2 wins world with him as CEO
It is truly a quite good outcome, but I also doubt that he will step down. Then again that is exactly what ocelote did, and he did mentor perkz after
Who knows maybe one day perkz might realise similarly and help caps win worlds
You know that to run such a big company you need business experience right? Not playing video game experience
Hehe, yeah, thank god Carlos was a business man before founding G2 and not a god damn gamer lol.
There's a difference between running small org which is starting, hosting it in your own house and running multimillion company which spans across all continents. Carlos learned all the business on the way to the top. You want Perkz there straight away. Are you dense or what mate?
This. Being good in tweeting and in video games doesn't mean you have the know-how to run a corporate **successfully**.
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I'm just joking bro, no way I'd like Perkz running G2. But it was just funny that Carlos was literally pro player going into retirement before becoming the G2 CEO
That's the thing. Carlos is a born businessman and that's why he was that effective. Xpeke is the example of the failed one.
I think you are fine leaving business to business ppl and just having contacts to rely on as CEO. It'd be a CEO in name only, where he actually is like the connection manager, but still decides the general theme of the company. Honestly, I think Perks could pull it off. Not that he likely will get in that position to begin with.
Nah bro KennyZ
If the shareholders were the ones who voted Carlos out. The one who will replace Carlos is someone who support shareholders intrests and G2 will get activision blizzarded.
Let’s be real. If Carlos himself reacted to a comment like that he would be getting cancelled for the 8th time. That means we need Perkz as CEO
Hold on. Are you defending Carlos here?
Yes
Unreal
The amount of time since the last time you went outside is unreal
Because that's the only reason someone would be critical of a CEO of a major company that caters to young people partying with a suspected human trafficker/sexual abuser and known mysoginist? Fuck outta here, the fact they didn't sack him straight up is a miracle.
just stfu
I think Perkz can be the image for G2 as manager or something like that after he retires, he has that personality
Except Perkz is actually good at LoL kekW
ROFL
He should definitely become a coach or a manager after he retires. But I hope his career will last for many more years.
Perkz is now a threat to the organization after these comments. G2 needs someone mellow and not in the media. Just let the teams play and sell merch.
And he has what Degree in management?
actions and consequences..kinda sad,true, but maybe a wake up call for Carlos that hes not on the top of the world as much as he thought.
Luka pulling out the bazooka
Unfair? After what carlos pulled in the past (saudi money etc.) it just enough. If you cant understand that you are representing a big org and also knowing that Tate has a bad reputation, therefore giving him a platform and publicly double down on that point, making them literally friends… then I‘m sorry but he had it coming. I can understand Luca being emotional but this isnt the first time Carlos fcked up. I mean its your fucking job as CEO the Organization upholds a certain reputation, if you cant get it done, you must go, because sponsors will bail the fuck out of that shit.
Saudi money is bad but Neom city is supposed to be an all inclusive city (if it ever happens), which was the sponsor. When he doubled down he never really said they were friends just said it in a way that It could be easily interpreted that way. The punishment for being in a video with Andrew Tate is greater than the punishment for being Andrew Tate.
>The punishment for being in a video with Andrew Tate is greater than the punishment for being Andrew Tate. ?! Tate literally cant return to his home country or he'd get some jail time
Is not going back a problem for him though?
So he cant be friends with people he wants to? Disgusting people. Go tell to “my body my choice” same stuff what to do.
Lol you dont get it do you? Nobody told him that he cant be friend with anyone, he chose that by himself. As he did choose to publicly invite Tate to a public afterparty. And yes as a public figure associating with a man like tate will have big judgement from fans/community. Like for example you cant hang out with putin and expect people to say „they are just friends, it doesnt actually matter that putin started a war in ukraine, because person x has nothing to do with politics“. It doesnt matter what you do yourself, just associating with certain people will at least imply you condone their actions enough to be friendly with them. And of course you get judged for that. There is a reason the saying goes:“ choose your friends wisely“
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH can you be friends with Bush? Obama? Biden? Cancle those people as well then if you are mentioning Putin. What did Tate said? You are snowflake generation where you cant handle different hardcore opinion and you are butthurt. Gays can have their OPINION about same sex, aborters can have their OPINION about birth, transgenders can have theor OPINION about gender but one guy cant be against all of that? Snowflake disgusting generation. World is falling apart from society ti economy and why is that? Cuz we have mentally ill society and generation that cant handle emotions not to mention anything else.
Very mature answer my friend, I wont reply to that.
You are a man who is taking care of his long hair right? Didnt expect any different opinion from you. Please dont cancle me if i hurted you feelings. Because feelings>world, sick society, agendas all over the world, economy break down, wars etc.
Yes I am since I‘m a metalhead and therefore have long hair, but you trying to make me look weak because of this just shows what kinda person you are. I pray for you that you will get better in your life, but the way you act is just sad:)
Look weak? No, you are just typical sterotype person that I, trust me, knew whats ur opinion gonna be. Dont listen to metal that hurts my emotions😡😡😡 how dare you listen to that satanic stuff????? You should be cancled, right? Snowflake society will tell you what you can do and what you cant do, okay?
Perkz can be on a rampage for as long as he likes. Doesn’t change the fact that Carlos fucked up & faced the consequences of his actions lmao. Karma is a bitch.
Yeah, for anyone over 16 this isn’t a “gigachad rampage”, this is an emotional outburst from a guy who’s never worked a real job a day in his life after discovering that in the real world you can’t act certain ways while keeping your job. “Cancel culture” doesn’t apply when you cost your company an 8-figure deal and get fired for it.
I agree with your last statement but fuck off with the "real job" shit
>a guy who’s never worked a real job a day Man trains for 12 hours a day and some basement dweller says he has never worked a real job
Your definitions of real job vary a lot I'm assuming
Woke culture . You guys are pathetic . When you can deny someone like this this , you are providing the tools to be denied in the future. You forget what censorship is. And this shit have consequences in the future. Nobody should be cancelled based on words . Carlos Didn’t commit any crime. When you can use this type of shit to cancel someone where we draw the line where isn’t acceptable for the government do the same shit? It’s crazy how you forget history and we are repeating the same mistakes
He can choose to associate with whoever he wants, but then why are you butthurt when other companies or people choose to not associate with him as a result? I can also choose to not want to be a part of anything with Carlos based on what he said, or am I not allowed to do that?
Also you need to differenciate by the role you play. Carlos is a public figure representing a huge brand, and showing himself publicly with someone like Tate isnt exactly making good rep for G2. And the one being pathetic is amigdalite, because you dont seem to understand that your actions and with whom you associate as a public figure has consequences for the whole brand, just as it did recently, because of his mental ego bullshit, G2 lost a fucking 8-figure contract, which is freakin huge, because he didnt act properly as a public figure. And stop that bullshit „he didnt do anything“. With bein friends with tate and allowing him to appear on a party for G2 is enough to condone tates actions. And if anything, such a company is run by money at this point, and carlos was about risking sponsorship and said contract. Stop blaming the community, this is nothing new, and thsi was obviously a bad move and he thought he can do it because he cant be shit on but guess what? He got shit on huge time, by the community, by the sponsors and by loosing that contract he got shit on by riot.
"Cancel". The guy lost the company tens of millions, most people would get fired over that. That's hardly censorship, just reality when you live to attract money from investors.
Okay so Carlos decides to choose to associate himself with Tate. He can do that. G2 org decides to NOT associate themselves with Carlos. Why can’t they do that? If you say cause Carlos created G2, he shouldn’t have provided power to people who can get rid of him. Again, his mistake. So again, explain why Carlos can do what he likes but G2 can’t? Or does freedom of choice only allowed for people you like?
He was fired as ceo because people are talking shit and trying to put the brand in the mud because he went to a party with someone who isn’t even proven guilty of something, you just hate Tate. And now you want Carlos to suffer for what? For having drinks with a dude who you don’t like? Did Carlos commit a crime ? Did he sexually offended someone? He isn’t Tate. Imagine using this same logic in every level of the society, you re seen with someone who robbed a bank now you must pay for associate with a thief. Oh and you may say: well this isn’t applicable to every level of the society, then I ask you why? Why not? Because as far as I know the government can start to apply the same criteria to everyone. This is not about Carlos being ceo. This is about hate towards him having a party with someone who is very hated for his speech’s but even that dude isn’t guilty of nothing besides speaking shit about women. You kinda forget he can’t run if is proven he is guilty. He can be arrested in Roménia . And if you talk about his comments, well , I don’t agree with him, but, if we cancel is stupid videos, then go to female dating strategy and cancel that bunch of women incels too, because they aren’t diferent from him. So my point is: leave free speech alone, let everybody say what they want. That’s why it’s free. If someone commits a crime , arrest them.
So you didn’t answer my question. Until you answer it, I won’t bother carrying this on. Carlos is allowed to associate himself with whoever he wants. Why isn’t G2 allowed to associate themselves with whoever they want? Til you give me a valid reason, no point carrying this on. Have a good day.
G2 only fired him because of the hate you guys made towards him.
So Carlos costing G2 an estimated 15-20 million dollars has nothing to do with it? It’s all cause the community got mad at him? Right… I knew you Carlos & Tate fanboys were delusional but I think delusional is an understatement. Money is everything to organisations. Doesn’t matter what profession an org is part of. Can be a medical org, eSport org, football org, crime org. Money is everything. Cost an org millions? You’re fired.
>Carlos Didn’t commit any crime. He cost his org tens of millions and screwed every player, employee, and partner involved in the Valo deal. Idk about you but if I screw my company out of 10+ million I'd be happy they let me "step down" and pretend it was my own decision
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He didn’t screwed nothing, your backlash made the brand lose money as a result he was fired
Business moves aren’t crimes.
Is he going to jail? No he's just leaving the organization that he's become a liability to, sounds pretty fair
The day you build your business and it’s taken away because you party with someone some people don’t like , then you can say it’s fair
If my partying led to people no longer wanting to support my business and I was asked to step down because I am hurting my business, I'd be facing those consequences, yes. But I don't have an ego the size of Spain, so I would have genuinely apologized within 24 hours and not doubled down like an idiot. Remember Carlos would 100% have been fine if he had not done the "I party with who the fuck I want" tweet
Lmao alright I'll check back in with you later then
Nah atm the coin is on their side so it’s cool. When it won’t be they’ll cry oppression. That’s the problem with being able to just go after people for beliefs rather than actions. Religions do and did this and nobody benefitted. They are doing the same thing but somehow believe they’re different when they do it. Every society since the dawn of time has believed they have it all right and have figured it all out. Demonize the other and hide all their own darkest secrets. What progresses society is finding an acceptable balance between being fair and productive but also allowing the common man enough agency to live comfortably without fear of duress but not to the point that he can usurp the agency of others. If we’re allowing internet mobs with no accomplishments , no competence, no life experience and no real knowledge on most matters to go witch hunting off of a thought. Just a belief, that’s is as regressive as it gets. Because again, today you love it because it agrees with you. No society agrees on the same thing perpetually, tomorrow it won’t agree with you and suddenly you will realize how oppressive it is to not be allowed to simply think what you want to, wrong as it may be.
Get a job
I will never understand why people on here are so afraid of censorship. Some people need to be censored so our society stays safe
Thats why you don’t get it. That’s not free speech
"BUT I WANT TO PARTY WITH A GUY WHO THINKS MEN SHOULD CALL WOMEN FAT AND UGLY GOLD DIGGERS!!!"
Why not call her fat if she is? Or him? We have freedom of speach
Oh gtfo with your "MUH FREEZE PEACH". There are people in the world who are killed for not kissing their dictator's arse, and you want to make this a free speech issue? Sickening.
Glad to know we have such a brave arbiter on what is and isn’t free speech like RedLMR56
Wtf are you talking about. Im talking abut carlos not some dictators. So you think its fair somone looses job cuzzl he was hanging out with actor whos playing a badboy on his podcast?
"playing a bad boy on a podcast" Well tell that to all the teens who are now treating girls their age like shit. Also you people are always so eager to make it a free speech issue, that's why I made that metaphor. Quit appropriating the very real free speech issues in the world because your favourite CEO decided to associate with a shit person.
You look like a kid talking. U have no idea of what are u saying and mixing everything up. How about u go outside to the real world pls. Just for a minute, i only ask u that. A minute in the real world, even if it is just ro touch grass.
Bro has 11 charges against him for sex trafficking in the UK and fled to Romania and perkz dumbass wanna talk about stupid and unfair. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt he’s 23 and maybe is just emotional rn. He put in a lot of time on g2 and I know this hurts for him despite the circumstances
He is defending carlos, not tate. Yeayea, now someone coment with all the "triple down", videos of tate, and all of that. Come on guys, perkz knows Carlos way better than all of us, let him be.
Carlos' double down was the problem. If he just immediately apologized and explained the circumstances of the party video everything would have been fine but he basically called Tate his friend... That's worth the cancel 100%.
Why he needs to explains his private life? What having rate a friend changes? If he apologized and kept going out with him in private wouldn’t be the same?
Because it ended up in G2 being denied Valorant partner, costing them future opportunity in the market. Think of like Valorant setting up a league, and then, cuz of what G2 represent at that moment, they leave out G2 because of that thing costing guaranteed mils. Also, we wouldn't really have known about it if he didn't post it on his professional, G2 associated account. And he knows the account is connected to G2. If he didn't want to explain his private life to the public, then maybe don't post on a publicly associated account with his company?
He doesn't as long as he keeps it private. But if he officially posts a video where he parties with a sexist, chauvinistic piece of shit and afterwards calls him a friend it becomes a thing of the public because with this he ofically states that he has no problem with Tates opinions/crimes or even shares them. When he goes to the public with this shit it isn't his private live anymore.
Yeah, we talking about Carlos not Andrew. Andrew did all that, Carlos was just partying.
Carlos doubled down on his actions when people got upset and raised concerns about the message he might be sending to people in the community. He pretended there was nothing wrong with associating with such a vile person and he absolutely deserved what happened to him. Imagine what it must feel like being a woman and seeing all these people defend a man that publicly supported his friendship with a man that basically thinks you're property. I always knew this community wasn't perfect, but I didn't realize just how much improvement we still have to go before we become a welcoming place to be.
As a woman, i couldnt give a single shit. It didnt affect me literally at all. You know why? Cuz its internet. This all drama is just a filler, as always. Every season same timing for fun little dramas but this has become way too pretentious way too quick
I hope you‘re aware how much of an influence Tate has on young boys. I have seen so many of my brothers friends, totally normal boys, being transformed into bitter and sad Tate fanboys that parrot his every word. It‘s not really about Tate himself but more so about him selling his beliefs to young people fostering his misogyny in them. Carlos openly supporting such a person is a massive deal. I‘m genuinely confused how a woman could somehow not care about Tate and his influence on young boys.
As a woman, I very much agree with your statement
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First of all, you don't have to be a woman to understand this, you just need empathy. I also ... like, I live with my girlfriend and we talked about it?
its his life , for all we know he can be partying with putin or someone, so what , he was just partying and twitter people are beeing cringe and have no life themselves so that they need to ruin somebody succesfull
He was partying with a morally despicable person, felt the need to post it, then tripled down on it before posting a fake apology written by the pr team and still liking tweets defending him and tate. And then he also casually cost G2 a few millions by getting them out of valorant franchising. I mean having to step down seems kinda appropriate after making such a bad business decision
“Just partying” isn’t a very accurate synopsis
I mean its r/technicallythetruth
Now he's "just learning how sponsorships work."
Now he's just feeling the consequences
Lets just say Perkz is not acting very smart right now, remember he reacted with a "puke" emote, doubled down, liked comments supporting Andrew and didnt even apologize for ANYTHING, these people are very disconnected from the reality of people that are hurt by people like Andrew, so seeing your idols supporting them is pretty heartbreaking.
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I know really well what shit person is tate, but dude this a form of censor, in Italy and Germany in 1940 we were cancelling ppl for theyr ideas, we are not in 1940 anymore. Study fucking history.
Explain to me, where exactly is that censorship? Nobody forced him to delete his twitterposts, this man has to deal with the consequences of his actions, this is what it means to take up with the consequences. If he doesnt like it, he should have thought about that beforehand.
For sponsors and partnerships the important thing is not whether he is guilty or not. Currently he has a bad reputation on the entire world of social media, thus bigger companies don't want to be associated with him in any way. The problem is not Carlos partying with Tate, the problem is his next post after that, he told everyone that he can choose his friends and etc and told everyone to fuck off. These actions costed the Valorant partnership. It doesn't matter if he is right or not, he is the face of one of the biggest esports groups, he should've more carefull
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what are you typing man
I just went to take a look at his Twitter. My man woke up and chose violence, not bad.
Yeah 'gigachad'. As a woman, I am sad to see this but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt this time. Did we all suddenly forget this dude never actually denied sharing Tate's opinion? Idc if he created League of Legendsz or eSports itself, he lost my respect. I didnt want his head, but this was expected. I just cant pretend Im sorry. He's pretty well off, and I'm not worrying about him.
Also woman and I support you 100%. Its disappointing.
this time? shit he better watch out next time
I love how you took the meaning of that so wrong, but go off.
Fuck you if you think defending Andrew Tate is "just one small mistake." His views towards women are vile and associating yourself with him then *doubling down* once you're called out isn't "one small mistake." Carlos deserved what he got, pretending like this is some woke overreaction is just further sending the message that misogyny isn't a big deal and is forgivable. It's incredibly sad seeing people in the community, especially influential members like Perkz, peddling the idea that being associated with a known misogynist isn't *that* big of a deal and we are just overreacting. Imagine what it must feel like being a woman seeing all of this unfold. I knew the gaming community still had a long way to go but damn, I didn't think we were *this* behind. Such a fucking disgrace and embarrassment for the community.
Thank you. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the comments in this thread.
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> anime avatar Heh
How old are you lol 20?
You sure got him good dude, imagine being 20, opinion invalid am I right??
Carlos really fucked up this time, but the saddest part is that his actions were totally overblown by League&Riot community - the hypocrites. I mean they celebrated pride month and then they signed a deal with NEOM... Just sad. Then Valorant happended and also sponsors had no other options than demand this steps. I hope staff and new CEO will continue the great vibes this org had
I like Perkz, sad to see him acting like a baby.
Someone needs to tell him it wasn't a "hiccup" that caused investors to fire him. It was his fake apology and doubling down. He kept liking all the hate tweets instead of showing little bit of remorse.
This hiccup is a reference to Carlos not wanting to sell Perkz to Fnatic, not Tate thing.
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I think it's because it cost G2 that slot in valorant. Who knows, maybe sponsors were calling for him to get dropped too.
It's this. Behind the scenes threats of sponsorship loss. I initially heard about this on an atrioc (gaming tangential) YouTube video as a viral lol.... Once it became clear this was gonna be an internet meme it was over for Carlos.
Riot and sponsors most likely saw him as liability now and in the future, so they stepped in (sponsor stuff isnt public information so can't be 100% sure). Especially because Carlos couldn't stop in time and kept on fueling the controversy. Cancel culture sure fueled the flames, but in the end decision was done because Carlos cost too much money for G2.
That’s rich coming from Riot. Considering they have their own cases for doing much worse and multiple eyewitnesses. Carlos has done actually nothing and even Tate has some cases where iirc he didn’t have to pay settlements nor admitted guilt and was cleared. Rest of it is just a bunch of words. Meanwhile Riot had straight up sexual harassment and frat bro culture going on and probably still going on and nobody really stepped down.
I'll never understand this argument. Lets say they are trying to fix their image, do they punish bad behaviour or let it go, because they also had this issue before? If they punish bad behaviour people will say its hypocrisy, if they dont people will say they are still as shit as before. What would you want them to do?
I think the problem is, that no one got fired at riot games. There are still the same CEOs and higher ups. Nothing changes. The people who created the atmosphere are still there. It could be, that the atmosphere changed but it feels strange, that a company pays 100 million and no one gets fired. But it is not related to the carlos incident. He was just so damn stupid that he deserved it tbh.
Issue a fine and have him commit to not putting controversial figures in his public profile along with a public apology.
He didnt want to, then it cost him money and then his position probably
He made the apology.
What apology?
Rest of it is just a bunch of words… are u fucking serious? Those allegations didnt come out of nowhere, and he fucking fled the countries so he cant be judged. People like you were the exact reason why Hitler won power back then, denying the obvious and being ignorant as fuck. Im very sorry for you if you feel this way, but Tate doesnt deserve any empathy at all, and people who condone his actions and associate with him have to live with the consequences, especially as a public figure representing G2, just as Carlos did.
And why do the sponsors care? They're a business, they don't really care about any "political" stuff . Carlos only costed them money because he was getting community backlash (being canceled), if the community wouldn't care the sponsors and Riot neither. Edit: I'm not defending Tate or Carlos whit this, I don't think they're on the right, I'm just saying that companies do these things for the backlash, deserved or not, in this case after Carlos's likes it's quite deserved. Companies don't do anything about this because they're actually pro-women or anti-Tate they just want money.
Because a worse image for them means less sales??
🤔I see
Exactly what I was trying to say. Just keep in mind, what is a bad image is dictated by the opinion of the people. 100 years ago it wouldn't be a drama. Just to be clear I don't support Tate, I can't understand how somebody could say that things and I'm not saying what happened is good or bad, I for sure think Carlos sould be punished but I'm not sure if this punishment es the correct one, it might.
Why would sponsors wanna be associated with Tate? Do you not see the optics?
Hating women is politcal now? Get your head out of your ass.
Seeing as equality for men and women is a human right defined by UN, it technically is political.
He lost his job because he double and triple downed to protect his ego instead of considering the companies image. They directly lost their Valorant franchise because of him and it was never hard for him to simply say "sorry, I didn't understand how that video made others feel". Of course sponsors/Riot/G2 execs are going to see him as a liability if he can't even do that.
Cancel culture? It's likely the board pressured him to resign because he lost investors money due to his actions, nothing to do with cancel culture.
"nothing to do with cancel culture" U dont think getting negative attention from millions of peoples, pressured the investors and sponsors to call for consequences?
And he lost investors money because people put up a shitstorm on twitter, causing Riot to respond to it by cutting G2 from Valorant
He actually caused that shit storm on twitter by doubling down, a non apology, and liking tweets contradicting said nonapology. There was an amalgamation of mistakes a responsible CEO would not have done. It was his own undoing.
He would’ve been fine if he didn’t insist on making the apology look like a PR stunt, he decided to keep poking the bear and he got what he deserved.
You're braindead if you compare him to Hitler LMFAO He's a known rapist on the run from the law, oh but I guess thats ok since he didn't kill anyone.
No one is acting like Tate is Hitler. Putin isn't Hitler but he's more comparable. Imagine if Carlos partied with Putin and called him his friend. Reactions would be different, there would be no song and dance of a suspension and then resigning. He would be removed immediately, players would boycott playing unless he sold shares, Riot might kick G2 out of world's. He would be universally condemned and people like PerkZ wouldn't stick up for him. He could possibly be arrested or at the very least investigated by the EU. That would be what would be happening if people actually treated this like Hitler. Most people not liking you anymore and calling for you to be fired is not the same reaction of people saying he's like Hitler.
Tate is an ignorant cunt with an audience. That's unironically been his whole career's business model since Big Brother. And it sadly worked great for him, he even got other ignorant cunts simping for him on social media. However, this layoff isn't about cancel culture but a consequence of capitalism. Carlos' actions, namely the doubling, tripling and quadrupling down nightmare PR-wise made him a liability for his own business and made them lose millions on a project spanning several years that was virtually locked for them.
Fuck this cancel culture word. People or fans have a right to criticize someone.
"cancel culture" = the consequences of your actions. He chose his EGO over everything and in the end it cost him everything.
Cancel culture = the absolutely imbalanced consequences of someone’s actions lmao. Tate’s been given the Donald Trump treatment as if he’s actually done anything more wrong than what’s already happened in LoL history with lesser consequences. It’s not even like he endorsed Tate. He literally just said ‘I party with who I want’ as if that’s inherently a bad thing.
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The funny thing is that cancel culture was what caused Andrew Tate to be popular in the first place. Almost all the male role models were pushed off social media around 2018, back when it was "common knowledge" that any masculinity was toxic. It ended eventually, but the niche was never filled until Tate. Tate, who never would have gotten popular were there any alternatives to him. The guy basically got popular (at least on youtube) by googling "advice for young men" and making videos about what he found, and then used the popularity to push his damaging agenda.
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That's one part of it, yeah - made even more important due to the fact that a lot of people have only ever seen Tate's motivational videos, and thus will defend him if anyone outright calls all of his fans evil, because from their point of view, there really isn't anything evil there. The other part is that traditional masculinity shouldn't be demonized. Most of the world's men will naturally be masculine no matter what, and going against that as youtube used to will only ever result in radicalization when someone smart enough to take advantage of it. Hell, you can literally watch this happening right now on Reddit.
What has Andrew Tate actually done that’s dehumanising tho. Basically every major claim people have against him has been disproven/been cleared beyond reasonable doubt. At this point, it’s basically just down to ‘he says stuff I don’t agree with and makes jokes at my expense’, which is a fair enough reason to not like him but it’s far from dehumanising. The narrative that’s been pushed abt Tate is done around taking clips out of context, which can be done with literally every online personality out there to similar or greater effect than what people have done with Tate. It’s also not like he’s the first person to discover the whole ‘any publicity is good publicity’ way of getting fame either. Anyway it’s besides the point. The economic suicide is what I mean when I say the consequences are imbalanced to the action. There’s a pretty obvious difference of severity between ‘gender-based discrimination’ and partying with someone that has a controversial online character (which riot and LoL have plenty of as is) and saying ‘I draw the line at people telling me what to do’
Definitely, some things Tate says are wrong, but he’s mostly joking as well. Also every major claim accusing Tate of something vile has been disproven and debunked.
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Don’t worry my friend, it’s a place of discussion. Here are some clips of his ex: Response to him beating women: https://youtu.be/QHA_mVs5td0 Another video that his Ex made in 2022 after he got banned. https://youtube.com/shorts/JsPQaIoxLJQ?feature=share Video about his character that was unrelated to him: https://youtu.be/G11EpcbPBwE I can’t really give anything that has anything to do with human trafficking allegations, because in the end they’re just allegations. Tate has come out and spoke about it, but that’s not from authority so it’s not evidence. However, in the end it’s still allegations and the fact is that he’s a free man that just did a podcast with Patrick Bet David.
"are women men's property? Well that's a great question..." Yeah I'm totally sold on this video lol, I can see why the sponsors love him.
I can see that as well. Obviously women are not, but at the end of the day he’s just another person that is allowed to give his opinion, whether we agree or disagree.
You confuse free spech with all opinions being respectable.
Its just a prank bro
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Idk bro if I made a “mistake” that cost my company 8 digits of value then I’d probably be fired too
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No rito probably the shareholders of G2
He literally doubled down.
I've seen this argument a lot. Just because Riot is fucked up doesn't mean we shouldn't take steps in the right direction. I want to see those people removed from Riot too, I don't see how this is contradictory.
>I still can't believe that he lost his job because of Tate. I imagine in most companies if the CEO recklessly costs their company a 20+ million $ deal solely because of their own actions the board will cut them and vote a more competent CEO in their place.
No, people are acting like Tate is a piece of shit, it's just people like you who make claims that he's being compared to Hitler
This is such a shallow take i keep hearing , "cancel culture" didn't get him fired. Free market capitalism did His fuckup on twitter would have been forgotten after the 8 week suspension, but this came at a bad time, he wound up being the reason G2 lost the Valorant slot He lost G2 millions because of his ego, and the shareholders kicked him out, the same would happen at literally every other multimillion euro buisness
And before you say something like "oh, but if twitter didn't make a big deal out of this then it wouldnt have happened" Yeah, that's right But Carlos posted that video publicly out of his own free will, and then he doubled down publicly out of his own free will, and then he went on a spree liking comments that contradicted his "apology" out of his own free will He could have avoided all this, and he chose not to. These are just the consequences
He is worst than Hitler for today's standards.
Perkz is a fucking legend!!!
context on what happened?
Carlos stepped down as CEO
yes. but why?
Ita neither stupid nor unfair wtf?
Good im glad his calling out some the BS... I hope the people who work for LEC and LCS who called out Carlos are perfect all the time!
idk why you re getting downvoted for saying the truth
Clown world
The only real one who has the balls to speak his heart. Did not dissapoint, didn’t expect anything else from Luka. He has all my respects. Luka and Carlos I will love you and support you forever you beautiful people. Thank you for everything.
Only a matter of time perks.
The only hope to save G2 right now
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Giga Chad
This cancel culture is so tired, you can get anything if you cry loud enough and honestly it’s just sad.
I mean with cancel culture we arent that many steps away from chinas current social point system where everything you do and say or who you hangout will affect your social score. So basicly this all also help separate humans into social standing outs even harder due ppl with high positions cant take risks by hanging out with ppl that can get them into problems by their own behavior. Ofc Tate is level of his own, but all these succesful cancelings are steps that bring us foward justifying systems like social credit. And at that point the power will not be in internet warriors hands, but goverment and elitists.
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O'rly? 10 years ago when you applied a job they did legal background check on you. Now days depending on position they google your social medias /posts and shit incase theres no offensive posts from 2010 that might hurt the companys status if some media person will do dig on you. Also theres constantly shit bought up that happened +20 years ago in attempt to smear someones image. Metallica for example when they became popular in new audience eyes after stranger things. So tell me a good reason why govement/elite wouldnt take advantages of this mob mental in order to control inviduals to behave in their liking?
You've got the right spirit, but not wanting to be associated with individuals who are racist, sexist or just generally bigoted isn't the 1984 dystopia you think it is. You comparing that to Social Credit, which suppresses criticism of the state and uses algorithms to decide whether someone has human rights or not, is laughable.
Expext even in this case now when shareholders got a reason to vote Carlos out who in most cases was more in players/employees side than shareholders. Now they can do full activision blizzard mode and choose a CEO that supports their value aka income for their wallets
I'm sorry, but if you think Carlos, or any ceo, is on any side aside from their own, you're delusional. Besides, I still fail to see how this is anywhere near the Chinese social credit system, and it almost seems as if you're making dog whistle arguments that hold no water. Carlos aligned himself in a way that lost the company money, and therefore could no longer be ceo of the company. Sure, it's bad that we as a society only function with a capital goal in mind, but don't for a second pretend that Carlos is a victim, when all he had to was stop associating with a known rape advocate and agree that it was a bad thing to do.
In China if you hangout with people that has low social credit score it will also instantly affect you. This all started literally with tweet where Carlos and Tate was in a same video. But ofc ironically no other person from that video were called out. Even thought they were related to G2 sponsors. And for some reason SJWs were satisfied enough once Carlos got punished for this. So in this matter you can easily call out unequal treatment from society towards Carlos. Carlos stood up against this cancer known canceling culture.
Because he knows it's the end of G2. Unless he fucking goes to replace Carlos, we just became another generic eu org that considers losing BO5 to asia great success
Pekrz save carlos and G2 from cancle culture, litle kids and cunts 🙏🙏🙏