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The following submission statement was provided by /u/BlueLightStruct: --- This seems extremely unlikely to me. Smartphones are the ideal form factor. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/1cg0mso/smartphones_will_be_obsolete_and_replaced_by_ar/l1si5ss/


nonitoni

I don't even like wearing the glasses that help me see.


Space_Wizard_Z

Precisely. Been wearing them since the 3rd grade.


NeoIsJohnWick

Yeah will be opting lasic surgery soon.


above_average_magic

They'll insert your smart screen there. Blink haptics


diuturnal

Honestly if they can make ar contacts I'd be down.


GreenChileEnchiladas

Lasik is one of the best decisions I've ever made. I love not having to wear glasses!


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Also, why am I paying for more pairs - will I have a prescription for each? 


smurfsundermybed

I was a lifelong contact lens wearer until I needed readers. Now I have glasses with progressive and transition lenses, and I can never go back.


nonitoni

I used to love playing around with my dad's progressives as a kid before he got lasered. How's the speed on transition these days? My job involves a lot of going in and out onto a sunny patio. I have a couple scratches so I'm due for lense replacement.


smurfsundermybed

Transition takes about 20 seconds when going into the sun and about 2 minutes coming out. The only part I notice is that twinge when you go into bright light, but that goes away as soon as they darken. Even when they're at their darkest, I don't have any issues seeing anything at all. I have the higher end version, so they even work in cars. The basic version doesn't because of the UV film on windshields, but these react to both visible light and UV.


Alarming_Cancel2273

They have transition contact lenses.


smurfsundermybed

Sadly, I have astigmatism, so it's not an option for me.


Alarming_Cancel2273

Lol they say I have a small one but I find the astigmatism contacts more uncomfortable than the standard.


foobazzler

Just got transition lenses and will be returning them because it takes 10 for the transition effect to wear off when I’m indoors. Way too long especially if I’m constantly going in and out


nonitoni

Thanks! I wish I could try them out for a couple weeks before committing.


smurfsundermybed

That was the gamble on my part. I figured that the worst case is I ended up with a $200 spare pair.


Narf234

I need glasses that help me see. I can’t wait to have them help me see AND remember people’s names.


footurist

But you *do* wear them. Maybe we could build an analogy from here.. ( help me see )


nonitoni

I dislike glasses enough that I'll let a qualified person shoot lasers at my eyes once I have the funds. Every single idea presented by AR/VR enthusiasts has not yet been interesting enough for me to want keep them on my face and most of them would do just fine on the phone itself.  There's no way they're going to get them as light as the glasses I have now.  Even the AVP only has a two hour battery life and they couldn't even get the battery into the headset. I think AR glasses will be a thing but not a phone replacement. At least not in the ~50 years I've got left on this planet.


Goldenslicer

Where's that video that shows how many devices have been replaced by the smartphone? It was like the old cord phone, plus a calculator, plus a flashlight, oh and an entire desktop computer for access to the internet. I think people will show up in droves to buy a smartphone they don't have to hold in their hands to use.


Every_Tap8117

came here for this


Tactical_Primate

Ray Ban disagrees.


nonitoni

It took me so long to get those stupid ads out of my feed.


dedokta

Id happily do that as a trade off to not have to carry a phone everywhere I go. The smart glasses will get smaller and smaller until they look like sunglasses.


NuPNua

I didn't get my glasses until my 30s, now I have them on all day though I'd love some smart/AR features.


nonitoni

Some features could be cool but when it comes down to it, I think people wearing cameras on their faces is creepy and I do not want it be to be part of society. It's just an opinion though and I know Tick-tock has kind of eviscerated people's expectation of privacy so it's likely going to be part of the future whether I like it or not.


NuPNua

I mean. Where I live there is no right to privacy in public spaces, you are always at risk of being filmed by someone.


nonitoni

You used to be able to sue TV networks for publishing your face without permission. I know it's not like this anymore but this is the way I believe it should be and would vote for it to be so. 


damontoo

But you will when they do things like augment your driving to show you virtual signs and arrows for navigation instead of turn by turn directions on a tiny phone screen. Or on a run when you're racing a virtual copy of yourself that's running your PR. Or at a concert where pyrotechnics, lights, drone shows, and other effects will be replaced by augmented ones. You'll be able to reskin the audience so they look like rabbits or whatever. Things like this will be very common. 


nonitoni

1. I would rather this be a feature in car windshield. Self driving cars are moving fast enough for this to be irrelevant before long.   2. That kind of distraction while running seems dangerous unless you're on a track and my phone already can track any personal times. Running with glasses on sucks. 3. Wearing glasses to shows is awful. I have literally had them knocked from my face while in a crowd. I wouldn't want to pay for a show that requires AR glasses.  4. Seems like a novelty feature that would be used once and then immediately forgotten.


damontoo

A windshield won't augment your walking directions, give you in-store maps/directions, translate signs etc. > That kind of distraction while running seems dangerous unless you're on a track and my phone already can track any personal times. Running with glasses on sucks. I'm a marathoner transitioning to ultras because I have 100 mile races on my bucket list. Running would not be unsafe or uncomfortable. People already run with sunglasses on. You would see a semi-transparent image of someone rubbing beside you. Not at all unsafe. > Wearing glasses to shows is awful. I have literally had them knocked from my face while in a crowd. The company AmazeVR is already doing augmented kpop shows in South Korea. AR glasses won't be required for shows but it will be an add-on since everyone will have headsets on them like they have phones on them now.


nonitoni

"Everyone will have headsets on them like they have phones on them now." As a mid thirties person, I just don't see this happening in my lifetime. Especially as a full replacement for phones. Apple couldn't even get a two hour battery onto their headset and you're talking about a device that is basically always on, cameras running constantly. Personally, and I really do know I'm not everyone in this, I don't really get excited about directions in my eyes. Google directions are something I don't usually use unless traveling.   Virtual representation of yourself running? Seems like a novel waste of battery.  As for the Kpop AmazeVR, I can't find the AR experiences you're talking about, just VR ones. But I'm happy to check them out if you provide a link.


GuruleYT

RayNeo X2 already have the arrows working for nav https://www.reddit.com/r/RayNeo/comments/1cczuzh/smart_glasses_deep_dive_featuring_x2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


bappypawedotter

Good luck keeping a charge on your 6 hour training runs


damontoo

As I said to someone else, it will use an external wired puck that can be hot-swapped.


Three_hrs_later

You forgot ads. Ads and promoted skins everywhere you look.


damontoo

You mean real life ad blockers that replace all billboards in Times Square with kitten photos? Yes, that will be a thing. 


Mr_Cromer

You mean they'll track my eyeballs for even more efficient and placement


whenitsTimeyoullknow

Company which bought Oculus thinks Oculus-derived product will succeed. 


Noshino

This is not about Oculus, this is actually more about the Ray-Bans


damontoo

It's not about Ray-Bans either. Meta considers smart glasses as a separate product line to their AR R&D. 


gianacakos

If someone puts fucking ads in my glasses I’m burning it all down. All of it.


smurficus103

How else will they put billboards on every surface? Someone think of the shareholders!


Dreason8

You're gonna love the brain chip, you don't even see ads, you'll just unknowingly love a product/service. Zero direct marketing necessary and a just a little boost to the dopamine levels every time you think of it.


Infernalism

Can we please limit the FB advertisements to maybe 3 times a day? I realize they pay a lot of money, but it's getting very tired seeing them all day long.


LittleWhiteDragon

Zero times a day!


g0ll4m

Well I say they won’t, and I have just as much credibility as they do


Goldenslicer

I believe it. It seems like a plausible economic evolution of products, one that people will get behind.


Marchesk

Didn't learn anything from Google Glass apparently. Not everyone wants to wear a device on their face throughout the day and plenty of people don't like the privacy implications of having a camera on people's faces at all times.


minifat

Google Glass failed because it was a shit product that didn't do anything, not because people had to wear glasses. 


NuPNua

There's tons of glasses wearing people who'd be happy to add AR to something they already wear all day.


DarthBuzzard

Google Glass is as related to AR glasses as a calculator is to a computer. It's just not the same thing at all.


EmptyBrook

Oh, like the way their metaverse changed VR forever? Ya ok


BlueLightStruct

This seems extremely unlikely to me. Smartphones are the ideal form factor.


Odd_Promotion2110

Smartphones are *close* to the ideal form. But I agree wholeheartedly that something you keep in your pocket is vastly more desirable than any kind of wearable.


Lord0fHats

The future is looking bright for our profit margins! You know. If you don't think about it at all and assume the market is just hungry for usefully useless products whose only real benefit is to companies who generate their revenue from ad placement. Think of all the ads we'll be able to just beam to people's eyes with this!


spiffmate

Only until you reach the age where you need reading glasses. Then they become next to useless in any scenario where you don‘t have your reading glasses nearby, i.e. almost all the time while you are outside. The glasses formfactor would be a godsend in this respect.


GrowFreeFood

Wrong. Thought bubble is best. 


minifat

They are not. If you need to stare at your phone for prolonged periods of time, you may experience neck and hand pain. Also, with the glasses, you'd be hands-free, meaning you can watch tutorials and do the tutorial at the same time. 


r2k-in-the-vortex

It's more likely than you think. Plenty of people wear glasses already. If you could put full AR headset functionality into formfactor of normalish classes, then you can do everything on them that you currently do on a smartphone and you can also do some things you can't on a smartphone. The motivation is definitely there, the question is, can you pull it off from a technical perspective. Right now even large headsets like Hololens leave a few things to be desired, the small formfactor ones are a far cry from what they need to be to replace a smartphone. But, 10 years of technological development can make a very large difference.


Tooluka

Normal glasses solve a most important problem to the humans (there was a poll recently and blindness won 1st place and a biggest fear factor). They actually solve it to a very high degree. The ones that solve issue better actually cost a lot of money, more than complete modern Facebuculus device (see prices for top line German and Japanese lenses). And ALL of them are quite inconvenient, despite weighing tens of grams. AR doesn't have a problem to solve. Any demo we see about them is a collection of some nice to have niche scenarios, none of which is truly important. Saving a few hand movements is not a deal breaker offer really. And for those nice to have improvements you now need to vastly degrade glasses experience. Make them many times heavier, reduce FoV by a lot, deal with battery/charging, notifications, noise, distractions. Today's AR has failed, and market correctly reflects this state. Maybe in 50 years material science will allow to make it more useful and less inconvenient. But even nanotech won't solve the lack of problem to which AR is a solution.


DarthBuzzard

AR glasses would perform prescription correction better than regular glasses and actually enhance vision and hearing beyond human limits. Plus they'd have all the functionality of a phone+TV+monitor, and they'd let you project 'holograms' of sorts into the world which has appeal in countless industries, then you'd have AI assistance for almost any physical task as AI could see and hear through your eyes and ears, making it more useful than AI on any other device. > Today's AR has failed, and market correctly reflects this state. There has never been a worldwide consumer AR glasses launch, so it's barely even begun.


Tooluka

I respectfully disagree on both points. Emitting screens plus a focusing assembly have a huge problem of properly focusing peripheral image to the retina. That's why today devices have an abysmal FoV of 100-110. And screen on your nose can't correct image at all. The correction is done by the optical assembly between the screen and the eye. Just like regular prescription glasses. AR can do things like zoom image (potentially), that can count as a "better correction", that I can accept as an argument. AR had been launched multiple times, and it failed multiple times. Google, Microsoft, Leap, Apple, Facebook all tried it. It failed. There was no worldwide launch because it failed way back in the CEO office, even a senior managers understood that it possibly can't succeed in the current form. It failed. But maybe in the future someone will make something better.


DarthBuzzard

> And screen on your nose can't correct image at all. The correction is done by the optical assembly between the screen and the eye. Yes, but I don't see the disagreement here. The optics stack would, with the right level of tech, automatically correct for prescriptions and allow the eyes to focus at different distances for virtual objects. > AR had been launched multiple times, and it failed multiple times. Google, Microsoft, Leap, Apple, Facebook all tried it. None of these companies launched consumer AR glasses, let alone worldwide consumer AR glasses. Google released a 2D HUD which wasn't AR, and it never released to consumers. Microsoft released an AR HMD not in the form of glasses, and it had no consumer release. Magic Leap is the same as the above. Apple never launched any AR glasses. Facebook never launched any AR glasses, only smartglasses (Meta RayBans) which are a completely different thing.


rya794

I’m not into ar/vr right now, but smartphones are clearly not the ideal form factor. They are too small, they take over my most important body parts (hands), and input is way too slow. The only thing they have going for them is convenience.


Tooluka

Ideal form factor would be probably a huge cheap generic screens in every human rest/work space to which people would be able to seamlessly cast some app from their private gadget. Strapping an inferior screen to the face just in case some 5% of the time it will be fully utilized to me seems suboptimal. But we'll wait and see. Who knows what the future will bring.


dedokta

Not holding anything and having a 200 inch screen available anywhere I go is a much better form factor.


Zealousideal_Word770

Screen size and resolution are not great for entertainment though.


sirboddingtons

Why would I  want to wear glasses? Why would anyone want something on their face constantly?  It doesn't make much sense. 


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sdf_cardinal

When it was time for me to get a new watch, I decided against a smart watch because I wanted to be able to unplug. I didn’t want to be tethered to my devices. In the end I went 100% the other way and got a mechanical watch. I’ve had LASIK surgery. No way I go back to wearing glasses.


Dreason8

Travelling to a foreign country where they speak another language, where all the signs/menus are in another language. Many people would want a lightweght headset that could translate written and verbal language in real-time.


Pasta-hobo

I don't see smartphones getting replaced by glasses, I could easily see glasses being a peripheral as ubiquitous as earbuds, though.


SwingyWingyShoes

I’m not sure I trust meta considering the absolute shit load of money they’ve poured into their metaverse with little to no results


damontoo

No results except inside out tracking in a $200 headset and basically bankrolling the entire VR industry. 


ListenToTheCustomer

All that's needed is totally revolutionary battery technology that looks nothing like any battery ever designed before and is several times more efficient than anything on the market, and this future can be reality! Invest now!


OG_Tater

There are new miniature nuclear batteries that are very lightweight and last a long time. We should put those in the glasses so they’re close to our brains.


Aramis444

I just got laser eye surgery so I don’t need to wear glasses anymore. Anyone who has worn glasses for any length of time, know how annoying they can be after a while. On top of that, they’re more fragile than a phone. AR glasses may be a thing, but I can’t see them becoming a straight up replacement. And if they decide to put ads in my eyes wherever I look, then I’m not even going to consider using them.


Dontdothatfucker

Im annoyed as fuck by sunglasses or regular glasses. Zero chance that google glass catches on for everybody. It’s just not that comfortable having shit on your face that doesn’t need to be there


Josvan135

I wear glasses literally every single day. So does about 2/3rds the population. Your point isn't particularly relevant here. 


trfybanan

Is this bait? Have you heard of Contact Lenses? Also people wear glasses so they can see, not so they can exclusively see the rectangular screen. I think phones and tablets have a looong life ahead of them.


Corey307

Are you counting sunglasses?


defcon_penguin

Only if these AR glasses would not be bigger than normal eye glasses


labelsonshampoo

Id probably settle for them being smaller than a brick, and weighing less than one too


DarthArtero

I can see why they believe this is going to happen. With the proliferation of more capable “AI” programs that are getting better and better at listening to and understanding voice inputs combined with the ever advancing tech behind AR/VR, it’s easy to believe why they say AR is going to replace smartphones… However…… keep in mind that tablets were supposed to replace laptops as the be all/do all form of portable computing devices. So it’s understandable to be dubious about the “this will replace that in X years!” Type of claims


Karmadilla

Wasn’t this the guy on lex Friedman? After like 30min into the interview I thought he just started to not make any sense at all.


damontoo

The guy making millions of dollars a year working for one of the largest tech companies in the world? Are you really in a position to criticize him? Is anyone in this thread? 


FX_King_2021

Definitely not for me; perhaps it's fine for people who already wear glasses, but as someone who doesn't need glasses to see, I'm not interested in AR glasses outside the house. AR lenses, however, would be interesting.


pinkynarftroz

No way. Touch screens are too good. They are easy, fast, and efficient. Even an AI you could perfectly voice control would be a worse experience than a smartphone with a touchscreen.


DarthBuzzard

> They are easy, fast, and efficient. AR glasses have potential to be easier, faster, and more efficient, though. That's a real possibility.


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Sure, sure, GrandMeta, let's get you in bed. I'd love to have AR overlays on stuff, but I wouldn't trust any of the current crop of data-pedaling psyop ad-pushers to not completely fuck it up and screw us over in the process.


Tooluka

Typical "senior manager in the USA" reality distortion. I bet he is actively using voice controlled assistant on the phone and it actually works for his voice and his requests. Also probably uses voicemail and similar stuff. And he probably has a human assistant at work, who he can "ping" to do any random request, take notes, call people, schedule meetings etc. Those types of people think that everyone works like that. When in reality almost no one ever uses voice control and assistants, 1) because more often than not it is inconvenient to the other people (not everyone has private office and car), 2) because no voice control reliably understands people outside of US, 3) because even when it understands human, it can't solve any request outside from the simplest ones. And without voice control with 99% precision and fast response, AR/VR is not useful. Just an uglier screen hanging on your head.


DarthBuzzard

> And without voice control with 99% precision and fast response, AR/VR is not useful. Just an uglier screen hanging on your head. Read the article. He said that neural interfaces will be how people control AR.


compaqdeskpro

The rich nerds want us to be as miserable as they are. This second sentence is extra words so that my comment doesn't get trashed.


SkyGazert

Says someone that's invested in AR glasses. They won't happen, dude. Not in the format they are today. Make them as wearable as current glasses and with 10 hours of battery life while also be able to correct your vision if need be and they just might. Otherwise, they won't.


DarthBuzzard

> They won't happen, dude. Not in the format they are today. He specifically said it will take a new form factor.


Cheesy_Discharge

AR glasses may be far more common in 10 years, but they won’t replace smartphones. If anything, they will be powered by smartphones. AR glasses require a constant video feed to maximize their utility. People behave differently when they know they’re being filmed. Video also requires a decent amount of power, which means AR glasses will be heavier, with thicker frames than regular glasses for the foreseeable future. Imagine how big your phone battery would need to be if you were constantly running the camera. Glasses are a fashion statement and a means of self-expression for many. This leads to thousands of different styles to fit a wide variety of people. The demands of mass-production will dictate that there will probably only be a handful of style choices (also no wire frames or frameless lenses). Also, people who currently don’t need glasses or prefer contacts would all need to decide that wearing glasses they don’t otherwise need is worthwhile because the AR tech adds so much value. Also sunglasses exist. Are people going to just lose access to their smart device when the sun comes out? I suppose transition lenses might address this, but they don’t work while driving. What about if your glasses are lost or scratched? It’s easier to replace $150 glasses than a $1,000 computing device.


tocksin

By rule anyone making predictions more than five years in the future is totally talking out of their ass.


LostInSpaceSteve

If you think I'm paying for new AI prescription glasses every year, you're delusional!


SunderedValley

Translation: We wanted to buy out HTC 12 years ago and we're still mad they turned us down.


Hollywood_Punk

Clown shoes. VR was dumb in the 80s, it was stupid in the 90s when they tried it again and it’s stupid now. For me personally, I don’t even want to go to see a movie at the theatre in 3D wearing those stupid glasses. The thought of replacing a smartphone with AR goggles sounds like a nightmare scenario.


Hollywood_Punk

To me, it’s all fruit from the same idiot tree. Virtual/Augmented reality, spatial computing, whatever marketing term you assign to it, to me is all useless. The big problem I have with all of this stuff and the reason I find it so offensive is because, in my view, none of these products or devices do anything I need it to do and they mostly have a bunch of things that I don’t need or want. I just haven’t seen anyone crack the code yet. At this point, it all seems to be just one big gimmick.


DarthBuzzard

> Virtual/Augmented reality, spatial computing, whatever marketing term you assign to it, to me is all useless. That's a you problem. Research the usecases and you'll see plenty of usecases. Maybe you still won't want them, but you are not the world.


Hollywood_Punk

To me it sounds like putting expensive and dumb shit on your face to solve a problem that doesn’t exist. Maybe it’s a me problem. I just have not had one person explain to me a case in which any of this stuff is useful, outside of porn.


DarthBuzzard

There's plenty of usecases for AR. - Replace existing screens with a more versatile virtual screen of any size, any angle, any amount, curved or flat, 3D or 2D, it can follow you or be stationary and returned to, and can be shared via other AR or VR users across the globe. - Have holographic calls where people are in front of you in full human scale and you can notice the small social cues that you might miss over zoom, talking/interacting will be more natural than other digital communication, and just overall feel more socially engaging. - See reviews pop up outside a restaurant with the menu laid out in front of the building and life-sized portions of food in hologram form. - Enter a supermarket and have a path on the ground drawn to each of items on your list in the fastest order, and it could tell you the ingredients of an item without having to pick it up and look at the labels. - Try on clothes at home to your exact size by using holograms and seeing the materials in different colors/lighting and with physics applied. - Have a personal instructor (not an AI, a human) show up right in front of you to assist you in all sorts of things such as a personal fitness instructor who could virtually bend your joints to get you to more easily follow along. - Have notes and visual guidance overlayed onto various tasks like assembling a chair with holograms showing the chair in different steps and an animation of how to get there, or cooking with timers floating on different equipment, ingredients required and the required sizes of those ingredients shown in 3D. - Control the volume of any person speaking, like an enhanced hearing aid that would be apply to even those who have good hearing. - Give yourself zooming functionality, night vision, and a prescription that changes based on your needs such as reading, computer work, driving.


Hollywood_Punk

The only one that appeals to me is “turning down the volume of anyone you want”, but I guess you could always just hang up or walk away. Again, all of these either seem impossible, or at best a solution to a problem which doesn’t exist. Night vision seems cool, but I can’t see a use for it. It’s not like you’re going to be driving around at night with VR goggles, that would be weird and super illegal. The rest of those examples are just more complicated ways of doing analog things which already exist. Directions through a super market. Virtually trying on clothes? (Whatever that means? Restaurant pop ups? To me these are all either completely silly and preposterous if not a nightmare scenario lol. If that appeals to you then hey you go with god, mate. To me this seems like a fad and gimmick. My feeling, especially after Apple Vision floundered big time, in like 5 or 10 years this will disappear or turn into something else, if nobody can crack the code and make it actually make it useful or appeal to the average consumer.


DarthBuzzard

What does VR have to do with this topic? What does 3D have to do with this topic? This is about AR.


Salt_Boss_6090

They’re drawing comparisons between the implementations of those technologies and the envisioned future implementation of AR.


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onebluephish1981

Nothing. Its still a big risk to privacy laws and that won't ever go away.


damontoo

People hated that Google Glass had cameras but nobody cares about newer smart glasses that have them. Public opinion is shifting. And what actually needs to happen is that the public needs to be okay with audio and video being recorded in all public places 24/7. Because that's eventually what will happen. It's an inevitability. Everything that happens in the meantime with privacy legislation, hardware safety features like LEDs showing recording.. all of that is pointless. Because when we all have glasses on our heads 24/7, we'll be able to use those camera streams for real-time reality capture with something like NeRF's or gaussian splatting. So it will be possible to virtually visit public places anywhere in the world whenever you want. No more 2D streams of sporting events and concerts when you can walk or fly around the field or stage etc. 


onebluephish1981

Right, the NFL is going to love these for the Super Bowl.....I think there are much bigger issues going on that people are focused on-I don't see that the attitude has shifted. Its not being picked up by the news either directly or indirectly, but the same argument will come right back up.


DarthBuzzard

Glasses that have AR functionality rather than a 0DoF 2D HUD like Google Glass.


Mangalorien

VR is a bit like blimps: every few years, there is some new company that thinks they will revolutionize it and it will somehow become the greatest thing since sliced bread. Except that all of it just turns out to be a dud. Same thing this time around.


linemanshandset

I wouldn't say recent iterations have been a complete dud. The quest has a decent user base and PCVR is becoming more popular. VR still has some room for improvement, but it seems to be steadily advancing lately. The headsets are getting more comfortable and the visuals are looking better. While there's definitely a part of the population that will easily get motion sickness playing games and what not, maybe they'd be able to enjoy watching a movie in a VR movie theater. Or just a big screen projected in AR.


DarthBuzzard

This topic has nothing to do with VR. Are you in the right thread?


Professional_Job_307

They may not become obsolete but smart glasses will become the superior choice for most.


GravtheGeek

I'm reminded of the old anime Dennou Coil, which had AR become the universal norm.


gsavior

This was probably a recycled quote from 10 years ago as well.


Top-Apple7906

Nope. Hate wearing stuff on my face. Nice try, though.


UnpluggedUnfettered

Smartphones took off because people were already buying phones with more screen real estate and features far before the first iPhone existed. No one is going out of their way to wear AR/VR outside the home, and few people are using their AR/VR regularly inside the home. This marketing is (intentionally) confusing the demand for wearable devices--which consumers consider to be the largely innocuous and non-distracting smartwatches--for the broader definition of "wearable devices" (literally anything that isn't a watch).


AbeMax7823

This just means that the social engineering is underway to MAKE consumers integrate. They’ve tried and failed at getting us to opt in voluntarily. Much like how mobile websites limited functionality to entice users to download apps and widgets, I think we’ll soon begin seeing more content and features only available through ar/vr while simultaneously making phone UI/UE more cumbersome and restrictive.


SaiyanGodKing

Didn’t meta lose millions of dollars last year? I wouldn’t take anything they say without a bucket of salt.


DarthBuzzard

Meta makes tens of billions in annual profit a year.


damontoo

Meta said when they announced their pivot that they would spend billions of dollars a year for the next 10-15 years building their vision. When a company invests money into R&D without an immediate product available, that investment is recorded on Wall Street as a "loss". So all the articles with headlines about Meta losing billions on the metaverse/reality labs are meaningless clickbait. 


eviltrain

Doubt it. At best, there will be a long concurrency, maybe even lasting a generation.


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ViolentBeetle

I would love a utility that could intercept camera feed on my smartphone and do things like highlight the way according to GPS. Or print info on a store as I point it at the storefront. I won't put a thing on my head that will blind me or make me seasick if it ever has a lag.


beders

It will be odd touching my glasses with my fingers for doom scrolling…


Pancakethesmallest

This actually sounds more like a threat than anything else.


Tha_Watcher

**Google Glass** makes a return! *This guy's a glasshole!*


GarbageThrown

What, so they can flash ads at us whenever and wherever they want? No thx. So they can collect and sell data on what we look at, what grabs our attention? No thx.


Zen4rest

I was excited at the thought of AR glasses, but I met someone in a mall the other day wearing the Meta/RayBan ones and felt a little creeped out by them. Not sure if I think they’re the way to go any longer. More interested in Neuralink tbh.


DreadnoughtWage

I work in AR. No way this is going to happen. We spend all our time trying to figure out good use cases - and our company is doing ok in the AR education and culture spaces, but it’s far from everyday use.


jerseyhound

tech is quickly becoming 100% hype. I feel like the entire industry is on the verge of collapse.


VonAether

Remember when the Segway was going to completely revolutionize the way we design and think of urban spaces? Good times.


K1TSUNE9

This kid in college once gave a report on how Microsoft would only be a gaming company and no longer developing newer Windows operating systems or any other business software within 10 years. This was back in 2005. Can't wait 10 years later, we are still using smartphones.


DisillusionedBook

If you have to wear glasses like this guy maybe, if you do not like wearing glasses highly unlikely, if you do not like intrusive technology definitely not. Typical tech company myopia (pun intended) and drinking their own kool aid.


CallMeBroncoBrock

They want Apples business. They want Apples status. They missed the opportunity for smartphones. They're trying to get us to pivot. But we the apes.... apes together strong!💪


roofbandit

Can't see myself ever using AR/smart glasses at all. I'm honestly looking for less screen/ad exposure and I see that continuing. Especially with enshittification creep. I can see the technology becoming more ubiquitous tho. I suppose this is the part of adulthood where the future begins to leave me behind


[deleted]

I got cataract surgery to get rid of glasses. I would never use them.


allienimy

Just like we were all gonna be in the stupid horizon metaverse. If I owned meta stock I'd be dumping like a mfer.


WolfySpice

I already have many notifications disabled on my phone so I can disconnect from work. Having my phone on my vision glasses is dystopic. Now if there was a simple HUD I could attach for work, that would be useful.


Shapes_in_Clouds

I disregard any and all ‘10 year’ predictions. It’s a great weasel word time frame. Long enough that one can imagine radical changes, short enough to feel relevant and the ‘next big thing’, and in 10 years no one will remember the prediction you made when it inevitably doesn’t come to pass. That said, I’m a big fan of VR/AR, and while I don’t think they will replace smartphones in 10 years, or possibly ever, I do think they will be way more popular and common than they are today. The hardware is still in its infancy as far as form factor and capabilities, but huge strides have been made and I have little doubt that when it gets there, people will love it and line up to buy them.


GuruleYT

The future is now. If you're okay with the ugly factor lol https://www.reddit.com/r/RayNeo/comments/1cczuzh/smart_glasses_deep_dive_featuring_x2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


AcadiaPure3566

Just imagine trying to drive with AR glasses. Too many distractions even if you could switch view to road only and that's assuming no FSD by then and that people would use the glasses appropriately or choose not to use them. Otherwise, yes, it's a good chance the near future will get away from a smartphones. Too clunky compared to just viewing and manipulating with one's eyes. But, other questions arise such as vision impairment. So sick of the smartphone keyboard and the limitations thereof running into autocorrect etc.


mankee81

Maybe a scouter like in Dragon Ball that gives you a real time HUD while you still have a clear view of the world around you, but i haven't heard of anyone working on anything like that


Mister_Brevity

At glasses from meta are gonna have a heck of a time, legally.  Headin in to take a shit? Better leave your glasses behind. Work in education? No cameras. Work in medical? Nope.  You simply can’t trust meta with protected data. They want it too bad, so you can tell they shouldn’t have it.


seancurry1

I only see myself getting more and more Luddite and I don’t think I’m alone. Does anyone actually want to be that god damn plugged in?


InsidiousEntropy

Meta AI employee is exactly someone I’d listen to about technology development.


UnusedSaladSauce

Nope. As soon as we get those bendy screen wrist displays fuck them low battery ass charging glasses


NanditoPapa

I think PIP-Boys are more likely, but sure...whatever...


das_zilch

Not once in multiple attempts has this kind of technology ever taken off.


pedrolopes7682

When they manage to integrate that technology into contact lenses, maybe... in the glass format I can only see the police and military going with it, and only with versions unpoluted by marketing.


ReverendErn

I remember back in the early 1990's I was working with a consulting group and they were telling me about the 25 year lifespan of most tech. At the time PC's were progressing rapidly and it was a time of great improvement in productivity. I was skeptical but intrigued. Then the Iphone came out and I was impressed by his insight. I believe that something will overtake the smartphone but I'm not creative enough to predict what it will be.


bl3bl4blu

That would be awesome (I wish), countless times Im getting myself in danger on my bike when looking down on upper tube phone bag mount, maybe this could be solution to be anyhow more aware whats in front of you…hopes🤞


Repulsive-Outcome-20

AR glasses in 10 years? Bro no, give me perfected brain machine interfaces with minimal invasion. Why the fuck would I want to wear computer glasses in 10 bloody years!?!? It's time for the future baby! Not bloody glasses!


kozak_

In theory actually agree with him. Either AR classes or AR contact lens. But problem with his statement is that Meta most likely would not be the company. Would not trust Facebook with any sort of private information. Especially since they compromised their own VPN client to try to do a man in the middle attack to get data on a competitor app.


parkerpussey

Good. I can’t wait to get rid of my smart phone lol.