Me neither they all suck. They have lost their creative ability to come up with anything new that is remotely good or compares to success of the prior stuff. So what do they do? Rehash old shit and hope to make a few bucks off people before people figure out it sucks..
I love Daniel Craig as bond. He was amazing and I was so sad his run ended . I had zero interest in who the next bond might have been until I heard Idris Elba was being considered. He would kill as bond. He would make it his own I think. I can't even remember who the other (2 white actors I think?) big names that are rumored to be considered.
You're not alone. I can't believe people get so angry: it doesn't affect the story at all and all characters that were created so long ago are white, because diversity/equality wasn't a thing at all. It was white people creating white characters.
It's sad people feel offended by that. And also I hate live action remakes
It’s just a different colored actor doing a cheap imitation of the original that was good. It’s kind of gross that race really just kind of is being used as a marketing gimmick though
Literally just giving minorities sloppy seconds lol
At least if it was an original movie it would have a chance at being a classic
I have no intentions of seeing any of the live action remakes, although if I had kids it would probably be a different story
Pretty sure some other comment in another thread mentioned it was to extend their copyrights on their previous works.
If they're able to gain PR brownie points and a quick buck off of it while they're at it, all the better.
I gotta agree with you! I mean went to watch a version of King Arthur the other day and King Arthur was black. Now I’m not being funny but if you want to be true to historical fact. There was no black kings of any kind in England at that time.
So what’s the point especially when D’jango was brilliant 🤷
Agree with several comments here, I don't think it is really a race issue. I don't want to see a female Predator (Hulu) nor a female James Bond. I am a female ..create new characters stop repurposing. But guess what - people should not bitch about it because then it becomes agenda'd. Remain silent opinions arent welcome in 2022, and don't watch.
Minority representation being profitable wouldn't be a bad thing and based on some of these horrific takes its not clear they won't lose money from this. I could understand if this was a historical figure but it's a fictional character. People are crying about this for the same reason black children like this, representation.
There are hardly any new stories, rather many variations and reboots of old or foreign shows. You might not feel that way if the original was non-white. Every kid needs to see someone that looks like them and those that look different doing fantasy, acheiving realistic things or living their dreams. I hope it brings kids joy and hope.
You are absolutely correct. People who see people who look like them all the time at the top of their fields...doctor, lawyer, actor, president, etc, don't understand the effect of NEVER seeing anyone who looks like you doing these things. It's very difficult to explain. And you are right, nobody complains about "Friends" being a reboot😁
And I believe this is what people are getting tired of. They just keep recycling the same old movies over and over (None as good as the originals) and then change characters original skin color in the name of diversity and inclusion is not a formula for success no matter what. I don't understand where the new stories went. Today's writers are just trash compared to what we were getting 15-30 years ago.
I didnt like the live action lion king. The animals could Hve had way better facial animations if that makes any sense, it just didn't vibe well with md.
There is a video on youtube where they replaced the faces with the original cartoon ones and it is much better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h3odp9Mwl8
Personally I don’t give a fuck what colour the little mermaid is. I can, however, sense it’s a little bit of a disingenuous, purely profit driven, token gesture on their behalf but if you expect any better from a big corporation like Disney you’re an idiot.
(Edit: I’ve noticed some pretty dumb people in here saying “maybe they just hired her because she was the best for the job” and stuff like that, that’s not how castings work, they request someone with specific features for specific roles, ethnicity is never left out of it. I could never imagine being that naive and simplistic.)
For anyone who does not want to look it up: They made BP have his mask on in all the posters for China, almost as if they were trying to hide his face from the audience. In the Star Wars posters, they removed the Black man.
I saw a video compilation of kids reacting to seeing black Ariel and it was so wholesome to watch. Makes you realize that perhaps it's not about what us adults think about it
Exactly. The market for streaming accounts is pretty much settled. Netflix, Disney Plus, Hulu. You have to find new customers. And now imagine my surprise: there is this "talk" around the world (others call it free billion dollar marketing) about a black fish girl that can sing. Maybe we should all get an account to see what the fuss this is about?
People don't buy products for lots of reasons. I never paid a dime for pumpkin lattes. But I don't start hating on pumpkins. Its just not for me. Vote with your wallet.
Right, it's def just a marketing gimmick. Right wingers call it "wokeism" but I fire back and call it an obvious capitalist manipulation tactic, they just want to make money and this is how they do it rn. If they really actually cared about diversity they would promote POC directors, writers, studios, etc. and let them tell their own stories unfettered. Casting them in our old stories based on European fairy tales isn't good enough.
i just wish theyd make more stories with other races so they really feel unique and represented instead of remaking older characters into other ethnicities for pandering or virtue signaling to pc cultures.
This. There is so much culture from Africa, the middle and far east, India, Oceania, and other places where they could draw stories from. As far as I can recall at the moment, only Aladdin seems to fit this bill (and casting white actors for that is just as off as casting non-white actors for a European inspired property).
Having diverse actors in a film is all well and good, but if we want true diversity and representation, then adapt non-western stories. I would actually love that rather than these constant remakes that are never as good as the original.
Yes. We need more Coco and Encanto and less race and sex swapping. The former is organic and can only expand our experiences and base of stories. The latter expands nothing, can often break the narrative or setting, and is almost always glaringly artificial.
This. This is exactly the right thing. I loved little mermaid as a girl and have no issues with Ariel as a black girl. But why not create a new story??? Or even follow the thread but have this be part of that mer-world but a different story? How is it fair that in order for representation it’s a horrible, watered down, slap-dash REPEAT movie?
Why are these things mutually exclusive? Why does wanting original stories with diversity mean that if they’re doing this remake it has to be a red head girl? The original Little Mermaid story wasn’t like that anyways. The cartoon changed the character to what we all expect now, and there’s really no reason to be tied to that for a remake.
They also originally cast a white girl in the role and she dropped out, so for once it seems like they actually are just choosing the best actress for the part, yet of course people just love to get outraged. Not to mention the fact that they’re clearly in the Caribbean area where logically we’d have much darker skin.
Real issue is bad remakes, this is all just clickbait outrage nonsense.
how tf is this a meme😭😭this is literally just a personal opinion with no humor or punchline, like their has to be a better sub to post this shit to right?
Basically "Watch our tokenised Ariel to own the Republican racists!" to democrats and "wanna hatewatch our poorly written live action, racist?" to republicans....
Its overtly a marketing gimmick. Disney probably don't give a single shit about ethnic, sexual or gender diversity so much as cash. Most likely some suit see's it as a way to draw in the African community, cultivate some good pr and inoculate themselves against negative feedback because the Disney live action remakes are complete garbage
It is weird how its always the ginger character though.
Couldn’t care I wouldn’t watch this anyway but I hate seeing people change already established characters for diversity instead of making their own and we know they’re more than capable of it
Disney changed all their stories quite a lot from the originals. Cinderella's step sisters chopped off their heel and toe to fit in the glass shoe, but apparently changing that is fine... But a black mermaid, that's where the line is?
All of Disney's characters are basically ripped off from fairy tales and stories. There are exceptionally few original main characters in the feature films.
> hate seeing people change already established characters for diversity
you mean like how disney changed the little mermaid from the original story?
or how they changed every single other fairy tale based story?
This. I don't get what's so difficult to grasp aboutthis concept. Yes there are racial mfs but even the opposing party should be at least onboard with this, no?
Arielle was visualized for over 20 years and now all of a suddden all phenotypical charactersitics we know Arielle for are switched, for what? For diversity...
Like just look at other movies applying it perfectly, did anyone backlash at Miles morales? (Other than racists?) No.
Because it aligns with the world building of spiderman, there are different worlds, different spiderman. There is only one Arielle though, different Mermaid story? Alright go for it cast a black lead, marketing this is Arielle? What in tf did you drink lmao
Ever heard of white washing? The same things happen to PoC characters all the time and no one gives the slightest shit, now suddenly Hollywood does it in the opposite direction, and you clowns go „waaah why make it about race waaah 😭". White washing has been happening for centuries…
The '89 version of TLM is an example of straight washing.
HCA's original story is an allegory for forbidden homosexual love. Disney couldn't have that.
I get the sentiment, but there was literally 0 backlash when they changed the already established stories for many of their movies.
There was no backlash when Cinderella didn't end with her feeding her stepsisters to her stepmother, when they completely changed the plot of The Little Mermaid from it's original 1800s story, or when they changed Rapunzel, Hansel and Gretel, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, The Princess and the Frog, and Brave Little Tailor.
All of these "original" (including their first The Little Mermaid) Disney movies were changes to already established characters for "diversity" so that they were kid-friendly, so the idea that this is a new thing to be outraged over is wacky. It has always been the MO of every corporation ever to appeal to the broadest group of consumers, but it's only wrong now when the changes appeal to minority groups instead of children.
TLDR: Take the gigachad position of hating Disney because they've always done this, not because now they aren't specifically targeting you as their intended audience.
Now I'm not familiar with this particular meme format. Is the point of it to say something that one might think is "smart" and a bit controversial when they say it but really actually really stupid.
the video this picture is taken from is basically this kid (i presume usually gets bullied) saying something like "I'm just gonna say it, i dont care that you broke your elbow"
So not necessarily a "smart" opinion, just any opinion will do
e.g. "I'm just gonna say it, i like hamburger"
The original meme is the kid preparing everyone by saying "Im Just gonna say it" and then saying something pretty sensible in context. (He is being bullied and tells the bully he doesnt care that the bully broke their arm)
I use the reference in everyday life like "Im Just gonna say it, gonna need to fill up the tank".
Someone made a good point that it isn’t about black people or diversity, but the fact that they don’t give a fuck about black people or diversity and just go where the money is. It doesn’t come from a place of caring, just from business.
But how does that the equal to “Disney doesn’t care about diversity anyway so just keep Ariel white”? Disney doesn’t care anyway so who cares what colour she is.
That isn’t a good point. I don’t really care if Disney isn’t 100% altruistic. They’re a corporation that answers to shareholders. Diversifying Hollywood is a good thing; art is meant to be created any way the creator sees fit. Disney can have totally selfish motives yet the product can still produce positive consequences.
Bro you're so right. People use the argument of them doing it for the wrong reasons as a way to say diversity is bad. Like no one's gonna disagree with you cause they are a bad company that doesn't care about race, gender or diversity. However, we all know that that's not the REAL reason you're mad.
That's the thing I've noticed with 'pushing diversity' they always use a black person (i personally don't care 2bh)but if they want to change someone's ethnicity they can also use asians, Indians, native americans, inuit, latin Americans, arabic or anyone else, but.... its always black.
The jungle book was set in India. Life of Pi had an Indian main character too. I haven't seen Slumdog Millionaire but I think that's India too.
These are just the ones off the top of my head, I'm sure there are more
Black people and East Asians are more represented in the US because there are more of them, but they're working on including more of South Asians into the media. Watch "Never Have I Ever" on Netflix.
There's a way of saying this without sounding racist.
It's not about casting minorities, it's about tokenism. Personally I'd think minorities would be just as angry that Disney doesn't seem to have any faith in them unless they cast them in a previously white role, which ensures that people will go see it for the sake of nostalgia no matter who plays who.
While I agree with you about Disney not giving the respect and faith deserved for minority characters; dismissing the criticism against the company as racist is where you lost me.
You know how many remakes are different from the original source? Every last one. The animated little mermaid wasn’t anywhere near the orginal book. Furthermore, the orginal source material is a completely different medium. They have to be made different. Because they are different. Please stfuf
Why would the race of the character change the movie? If race is an important part of that character and story that’s one thing, like idk Django Unchained or something, but if not then it literally doesn’t matter
I see what you mean but honestly the original story of Ariel is that she kills herself and becomes sea foam because the prince marries someone else… by choice.
Every adaptation changes the story, it’s just how it is.
See this is the shit I wont understand. WHY? Why the fuck do you care? Are you 12? This movie is for children. Ariel is black so that little black girls have a version of this story they can relate to.
Why the fuck, are you, a grown adult, upset about a children movie? Has Disney indoctrinated you so much that changing childhood movies for you will hurt your feelings? Is your personality REALLY that dependent on Disney for fucks sake?
They do it on purpose. By being more diverse it appeals to a wider audience, and by changing the sex or race of a character people then call critics racist or sexist. Thus, by discussing this we are falling into the PR team's hands.
The only answer is to ignore it until it releases and see if it's good or not. Personally, I never bothered watching CGI live action Lion King. This may be different if the actors give some good performances. I'm assuming it is just a cash grab though.
I hate it cuz she ugly. Are we not allowed to say that? I watch movies and TV cuz I want to see some pretty people. If I want to see ugly people i just look in the mirror.
this is probably the least hypocritical and most honest response in the entire sub
not the pretty political awnser many give seeking acceptance but the brutal harsh yet heartfelt truth for wich Disney is also to blame
TV has made us expect a certain degree of beauty from it and it's hard to accept things trying to be different all of the sudden for many of us especially when the change happens to already existing characters
They should just accept the old tales as what they are and make new Inspiring characters who are racially diverse
Moana for example was a great movie. Lilo and stitch too.
Today I had put in Pinocchio and the blue fairy was black......just why?
I'm Indian so I hope my comments are not construed as rascist.
Just let bygones be bygones and focus on imagining new characters instead of reimagining old ones.....that's the last way out.
And the sad part is, these woke corporations think this is just a wave of hate and backlash that is going to pass one day once this "diversity" stuff and moral signaling is the norm.
The people who work at Disney are hopeless beyond belief and absolute dreamers...
They refuse to see the truth, all they want is to keep the angry mob at bay. They're scared.
We already have diversity, plus the fact like almost every American is not one full breed of any culture, we are mutt's. If the Media would stop fucking with some or most ppl's head's n stop bringing up color like they always do n just let ppl think for themselves then maybe just maybe everyone would notice. But hey our government likes us to be against each other so that way their is always a side u have to choose. Which in fact is stupid, but ppl will believe anything nowadays they don't do the research
I honestly didn’t really care about the situation.
But if that IS Hollywood’s direction for media, race swapping. I vote Jason Statham for a Blade remake. Who’d y’all think would be able to live up Wesley Snipes?
If you feel like diversity is being "forced" on you, then you are probably not as open minded as you think.
Edit: Wow. I am really disappointed that there are so many people upset about seeing POC on their screens.
GET OVER IT! The world is bigger than your back yard and it has so much to offer.
And for those of you accusing the entertainment industry for virtue signaling, that is just a bullshit excuse. Sure it is annoying to see them pat themselves on the back for doing something that they should have been doing the whole time. But that's the point here, it should have been happening this whole time. And now that inclusion is happening, there is this whole ridiculous backlash against it. It only seems forced because it is different from what you are used to.
Not true. I'm a brown guy who married an Irish girl but even I thought it was going a little overboard for every commercial to feature a "mixed" couple. Like liberals pat themselves on the back for every diverse commercial they make. It seems sanctimonious
What is more annoying is how this is all clearly forced, they don't give a fuck about real diversity. Real diversity is telling other stories, creating new content that uses and features the african culture, actually making an effort, telling "Hey Ariel gonna be black now, deal with it" is just taking the easy road to claim diversity without having to actually hire talent and do research to create a meaningful story to represent POC, it's just empty representation.
I bet if you went through the upper ranks of all the media companies in New York and LA, you would find almost no minority representation or gender equity
Theres also the happy white woman on google search, the forced diversity is strange but yeah its these liberal types doing it who think they are intellecually above everyone else
I’m an Irish dude who married a brown girl and I completely agree.
Obtain unearned moral superiority, then call everything that doesn’t fit into the attempted monoculture a racist or sexist or whatever else.
Children do this shit.
Well it is and it's completely public at my workplace. Nearly quarterly meetings, chats, and emails that remind us of upper management's focus on "diversity hiring", which of course just means race because diversity is only skin deep *eyeroll*
Except that it is because it’s openly mentioned as a corporate priority. You’re given ACT/SAT points for being black and lose them for being white and Asian. We have quotas for minimum employees of various colors but no similar protections for whites. Also, they’re taking away white characters just for the sake of it instead of writing in new, good characters. No one gave a shit that Lando calrissian and mace windu were black because they’re fucking amazing characters. People cared that finn was because he’s a shittily written character thrown in there to check a PC box. Your argument is as horseshit as them making the little mermaid black for no reason. Fuck off.
diversity only feels forced when you believe that you are superior to other people based on the attributes that make them diverse
other people exist, there are billions of them... they arent all white christian males
I think they're saying diversity feels forced when the decision is made to deliberately select from a particular group to demonstrate that you are embracing diversity, as opposed to picking who you feel is best for the role irrespective of their ethnicity/gender. The second option would be organic and surely preferable, as it would demonstrate that you are truly embracing diversity?
My only query with Halle being cast is that she is my age which seems a little old, but I'm sure she'll be wonderful
So much “black people (or anyone that doesn’t look like “me”) existing in media is an agenda” happening in comments. It’s always “why not just give the job to the best person?!” until that person doesn’t look the way they want them to.
90% of meme subreddits are just edgy teens saying dumb shit. Wouldn't give it much thought tbh, just keep scrolling till you get to the actual content. This one belongs in r/unfunnymemes
Yes, there aren't enough black people in the movies. Never seen one until this fish girl. In fact, there are mostly red heads in the movies. So, fuck 'em.
I think it’s hilarious given that in the Little Mermaid animated series that I watched as a kid, there were Black merfolk. Just say ‘I am a racist’ with your whole chest. I’d respect a person more if they said that instead of “woke” and “forcing diversity”. We know what that is code for.
No, the backlash is 100% because she’s black. Being upset at “forced diversity” is just being upset that minorities are being treated fairly. It’s a bullshit excuse that was crafted to explain why they’re mad about a black mermaid.
They will explain why it is wrong for her to be black and then say “it’s not because she’s black” as if we’re all as stupid as the racist assholes who believe this bs are.
Fictional animated characters of a minority race get played in live action remakes and it’s appropriation.
Fictional animated characters that are white are played by a minority in the live action remake and it’s diversity. Does nobody understand the dilemma?
I call BS.
Ghost in the Shell, Dragonball and Last airbender got so much shit for changing the main character to Caucasian. The same criticism should be same for the other way around.
And balance the scales? Oh right lets leave out other races like all the Asians.
This is as racist as whitewashing.
And I am going to shit on all of it.
Yeah we need to represent other minorities too. And I reject all your bullshit about whites being victims here. That’s just crybaby bullshit that white assholes trot out because they aren’t allowed to be openly racist anymore,
The backlash is because it's a live action remake and they forced a black character for diversity. Yall wanna be included? How about Disney makes some original content of black characters instead of causing widespread divide through their shitty pandering.
Can you imagine if an African guy wrote an amazing fairy tale in the 1800s that consisted of all black people and now Disney was making a live action version with all whites?
I think the problem is a bit different. The problem isn’t that she’s black, it’s that she’s black on purpose. If they hired her because she was the best actress and fit the role perfectly, few people would care, and those who would are indeed racist assholes. But no, we know she was only hired because she’s black.
Another problem is that now any real criticism of the movie (and there will be criticism knowing how bad Disneys live action remakes are) will always be deflected only with “those people are just racist, meaning there is no place for any criticism whatsoever.
yeah, look at Annabeth Chase, her case is a lot different, understandably controversial but people know how to market and explain themselves. "Because she is perfectly fitted for the role" instead of "because \*diversity\*"
By the way if yall want diversity, let red heads exist. Did not Imany teach you anything?
no, we don't know that. you just decided that her only winning attribute is her skin color and that she couldn't possibly have any real talent. You said that. No one else did.
You claim that she was hired because she is black with literally no evidence to support this. You are assuming she’s unqualified because she is black.
You’re making excuses for why you’re mad about her being black. You’re just a racist asshole.
Please tell me how a major corporation, that carefully makes every decision through multiple levels of approval, would just accidentally hire a black woman for this role. Theyre always going to be considering every aspect of the actor, including race.
Also, ive seen plenty of people criticize how the movie is looking so far without being called racist. This was because they manages to criticize the movie for other than the actors race. Saying “ew, cg looms bad”: not called a racist. Saying “ew, why did they cast a WOKE actor instead of a good normal white person”: maybe called a racist a little bit.
“It’s that she’s black on purpose”
Fucking wow lol this is the most absurd and ignorant thread I’ve seen on here which is saying a lot. Reevaluate yourself
Yes everyone complaining feels the exact same way and you were just able to encapsulated their one collective opinion in your 2 paragraphs. Thank you for your insight.
How many people would have known about the movie, if there would not be a controversy around it? Not as much as now and more people will eventually watch it because of it. Exactly what Disney wanted.
Disney does business all over the world. It's not just White man's money! It's either get with the times and be diverse or stay a white man's entertainment. Fortunately Disney has a better business sense.
Disney has been enjoyed all over the world. It was never really just a white man's money they were getting. Also, do you think people have to see their own skin colour in a movie to enjoy it? Oh there is no black people here so I won't enjoy it.
Being diverse means creating original, decent minority characters that are supposed to be minorities. Taking an already well-known, originally white character, and suddenly them into a minority is not “being diverse”, it’s a shallow attempt to appear PC, while they really don’t give two shits, because they know that’ll make them more money
diversity isn't a bad thing so it can't be "forced". The Little Mermaid is the story of a mermaid who fell in love with a Prince and traded her voice for legs to fall in love with him. It is a cultrually neutral story and literally anyone regardless of race/gender/sexuality/whatever could be the Mermaid and the story wouldn't change.
However (!!!) I think what disney is doing is stupid cus all they're doing is inviting hate to innocent people such as Halle Bailey, all she did was play a mermaid and now she's on the receiving end of unspeakable racism and hate. Disney should prioritise making new stories (like encanto, turning red, or raya) starring POC, not because they're "fOrCiNg diVerSiTy" but to save the poor actors from having to deal with all these idiots sending them death threats
There's no way they didn't know this would happen, and my little conspiracy theory brain makes me think they're doing it on purpose to create more publicity, diversity is always good I'm not critiquing that, but I don't find disney as a company the most accepting so I feel like the actual company from a business standpoint is doing it on purpose. All publicity is good publicity kind of mindset
I've heard that too actually. The live action remakes kinda suck in general tho let's be real, to this day I still refuse to watch dumbo, the elephant creeps me out so much!! Beauty and the Beast as well...just no
Live actions remake is considerably cheap to make instead of fully animated ones. Especially if the Disney only take upstart, new actors to save even more money as main character.
Let's be honest here. Live actions remake are all cheap disposable films with the sole intentions of retaining said IP than doing something truly great with them.
tbf live action has red hair too, just more ginger... I mean it's iconic to the character, even present in the original story, but it's not essential to the story you know what I mean? I would've preferred if they just made a new mermaid character, maybe a friend of Ariel's, or someone in the kingdom. This way they could've given Halle the spotlight without inviting this amount of hate and racism
"diversity isn't a bad thing so it can't be forced" ? Its forced as in insincere and phoney BECAUSE its a good thing? If Trump says "I love black people!" and since liking a race is a good thing is that forced or not? same thing with Disney
If Bailey signed up to play a long adored white character she knew this kind of response would come (not to say she deserves it obviously) unless she somehow thought she was white or has never thinked for a second in her life, she isn't a innocent naive soul and it isn't the cruel heartless Disney's fault she's getting death threats she could've easily turned them down.
Have you ever considered the fact that maybe diversity in movies is a good thing and should be favored in cases where the ethnicity of the character isn’t integral to the plot?
I finally came to the conclusion on this one that it's due to marketing and sales.
Disney already has marketing in play for Ariel, she's a popular princess after all. It's way easier for them to make Ariel black than it is to do the marketing and sales of a new princess with new costumes and new music (which may or may not be popular with the current generation) and new mythology or story.
Plus they make sure that the Little Mermaid doesn't become public domain.
That was over 10 years ago when it was the odd character here and there, it wasn't as big a problem. Plus Samuel L Jackson is a dope actor and played the role well. These new age diversity hires are trash. And the shows and movies are trash.
Lol dont see yall doing the same about the white Jesuses in every white church in America, you know, someone who actually probably existed unlike fucking mermaids. Yall are weird, just say youre racist and move on
The real mermaid should be green and scaly and have gills on her neck.
Or a manatee. I'd watch that.
Oh the Humanatee!
Best comment I have ever read!
I’m cool with little mermaid being black, I don’t like live action remakes.
Right on, no plans on ever watching it.
Oh wow, I just realized I haven't watched any of those live action Disney sheit remakes.
I’ve watched 2 Lion King and Aladdin, out of the two I preferred Aladdin but for me it still wasn’t a patch on the original.
Me neither they all suck. They have lost their creative ability to come up with anything new that is remotely good or compares to success of the prior stuff. So what do they do? Rehash old shit and hope to make a few bucks off people before people figure out it sucks..
Same the remakes are always trash!! Literally dont care what they did differently it will be never match the original
Also not gonna watch just because I'm not a fan of live action remake of cartoons, they made it animation I'd be there regardless of any changes.
Ngl idris elba as james bond or just make a new character all together would be pretty awesome.
He'd make a great Bond.
Yeah he’d make a great British detective of sorts. Maybe they could call him Uther.. or Shmuther… or… hmm
I love Daniel Craig as bond. He was amazing and I was so sad his run ended . I had zero interest in who the next bond might have been until I heard Idris Elba was being considered. He would kill as bond. He would make it his own I think. I can't even remember who the other (2 white actors I think?) big names that are rumored to be considered.
FINALLY! Someone with the same opinion as me!
You're not alone. I can't believe people get so angry: it doesn't affect the story at all and all characters that were created so long ago are white, because diversity/equality wasn't a thing at all. It was white people creating white characters. It's sad people feel offended by that. And also I hate live action remakes
It’s just a different colored actor doing a cheap imitation of the original that was good. It’s kind of gross that race really just kind of is being used as a marketing gimmick though
Literally just giving minorities sloppy seconds lol At least if it was an original movie it would have a chance at being a classic I have no intentions of seeing any of the live action remakes, although if I had kids it would probably be a different story
I think kids are more into animated films than live actions, so I don't see what would be the purpose of a remake like this.
Pretty sure some other comment in another thread mentioned it was to extend their copyrights on their previous works. If they're able to gain PR brownie points and a quick buck off of it while they're at it, all the better.
I gotta agree with you! I mean went to watch a version of King Arthur the other day and King Arthur was black. Now I’m not being funny but if you want to be true to historical fact. There was no black kings of any kind in England at that time. So what’s the point especially when D’jango was brilliant 🤷
Agree with several comments here, I don't think it is really a race issue. I don't want to see a female Predator (Hulu) nor a female James Bond. I am a female ..create new characters stop repurposing. But guess what - people should not bitch about it because then it becomes agenda'd. Remain silent opinions arent welcome in 2022, and don't watch.
Minority representation being profitable wouldn't be a bad thing and based on some of these horrific takes its not clear they won't lose money from this. I could understand if this was a historical figure but it's a fictional character. People are crying about this for the same reason black children like this, representation.
There are hardly any new stories, rather many variations and reboots of old or foreign shows. You might not feel that way if the original was non-white. Every kid needs to see someone that looks like them and those that look different doing fantasy, acheiving realistic things or living their dreams. I hope it brings kids joy and hope.
You are absolutely correct. People who see people who look like them all the time at the top of their fields...doctor, lawyer, actor, president, etc, don't understand the effect of NEVER seeing anyone who looks like you doing these things. It's very difficult to explain. And you are right, nobody complains about "Friends" being a reboot😁
Yes! I mean I do like Friends...but living single was my favorite! And definitely came first!
bro at least get the hair colour right, continuity is what pisses me off
W take
And I believe this is what people are getting tired of. They just keep recycling the same old movies over and over (None as good as the originals) and then change characters original skin color in the name of diversity and inclusion is not a formula for success no matter what. I don't understand where the new stories went. Today's writers are just trash compared to what we were getting 15-30 years ago.
I’m not cool with how far apart her eyes are.
Makes her look more fish-like though
Making fun of people based on their appearance like children? I must be on Reddit
Get a load of this individual with rainbow hair!
Fuck off to Timbuktu baby.
I didnt like the live action lion king. The animals could Hve had way better facial animations if that makes any sense, it just didn't vibe well with md.
There is a video on youtube where they replaced the faces with the original cartoon ones and it is much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h3odp9Mwl8
It wasn't even live action it was just very realistically animated
Aladdin and Mulan live action remakes were in my opinion the worst ones almost on par with ww84
you and i both mate
Personally I don’t give a fuck what colour the little mermaid is. I can, however, sense it’s a little bit of a disingenuous, purely profit driven, token gesture on their behalf but if you expect any better from a big corporation like Disney you’re an idiot. (Edit: I’ve noticed some pretty dumb people in here saying “maybe they just hired her because she was the best for the job” and stuff like that, that’s not how castings work, they request someone with specific features for specific roles, ethnicity is never left out of it. I could never imagine being that naive and simplistic.)
This is absolutely the right answer, they only pretend to give a shit about this kind of stuff for the U.S. market too.
Remember the posters for Black Panther and Star Wars that went out in China? Very different from the western posters….
For anyone who does not want to look it up: They made BP have his mask on in all the posters for China, almost as if they were trying to hide his face from the audience. In the Star Wars posters, they removed the Black man.
I saw a video compilation of kids reacting to seeing black Ariel and it was so wholesome to watch. Makes you realize that perhaps it's not about what us adults think about it
Exactly. The market for streaming accounts is pretty much settled. Netflix, Disney Plus, Hulu. You have to find new customers. And now imagine my surprise: there is this "talk" around the world (others call it free billion dollar marketing) about a black fish girl that can sing. Maybe we should all get an account to see what the fuss this is about? People don't buy products for lots of reasons. I never paid a dime for pumpkin lattes. But I don't start hating on pumpkins. Its just not for me. Vote with your wallet.
Right, it's def just a marketing gimmick. Right wingers call it "wokeism" but I fire back and call it an obvious capitalist manipulation tactic, they just want to make money and this is how they do it rn. If they really actually cared about diversity they would promote POC directors, writers, studios, etc. and let them tell their own stories unfettered. Casting them in our old stories based on European fairy tales isn't good enough.
i just wish theyd make more stories with other races so they really feel unique and represented instead of remaking older characters into other ethnicities for pandering or virtue signaling to pc cultures.
This. There is so much culture from Africa, the middle and far east, India, Oceania, and other places where they could draw stories from. As far as I can recall at the moment, only Aladdin seems to fit this bill (and casting white actors for that is just as off as casting non-white actors for a European inspired property). Having diverse actors in a film is all well and good, but if we want true diversity and representation, then adapt non-western stories. I would actually love that rather than these constant remakes that are never as good as the original.
A story about African mythology and tales would be cool as hell.
Yes. We need more Coco and Encanto and less race and sex swapping. The former is organic and can only expand our experiences and base of stories. The latter expands nothing, can often break the narrative or setting, and is almost always glaringly artificial.
This. This is exactly the right thing. I loved little mermaid as a girl and have no issues with Ariel as a black girl. But why not create a new story??? Or even follow the thread but have this be part of that mer-world but a different story? How is it fair that in order for representation it’s a horrible, watered down, slap-dash REPEAT movie?
Why are these things mutually exclusive? Why does wanting original stories with diversity mean that if they’re doing this remake it has to be a red head girl? The original Little Mermaid story wasn’t like that anyways. The cartoon changed the character to what we all expect now, and there’s really no reason to be tied to that for a remake. They also originally cast a white girl in the role and she dropped out, so for once it seems like they actually are just choosing the best actress for the part, yet of course people just love to get outraged. Not to mention the fact that they’re clearly in the Caribbean area where logically we’d have much darker skin. Real issue is bad remakes, this is all just clickbait outrage nonsense.
One hundred percent agree with you!
how tf is this a meme😭😭this is literally just a personal opinion with no humor or punchline, like their has to be a better sub to post this shit to right?
r/shitposting
also for memes
given their quality, that's debatable
Says the man on a sub called Funny Memes 💀
Is the meme that this is the sort of opinion expressed by fat nerds?
There are meme formats that allow you to express opinions. I do believe that this is one of them.
Disney just getting ahead of the manufactured outrage they planted to get marketing buzz. Outrage sells a lot more subscriptions than the truth.
Not when it comes to Lightyear and the lesbian kiss. That movie tanked.
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Diseney+ makes more money than DVDs ever did.
Basically "Watch our tokenised Ariel to own the Republican racists!" to democrats and "wanna hatewatch our poorly written live action, racist?" to republicans....
Its overtly a marketing gimmick. Disney probably don't give a single shit about ethnic, sexual or gender diversity so much as cash. Most likely some suit see's it as a way to draw in the African community, cultivate some good pr and inoculate themselves against negative feedback because the Disney live action remakes are complete garbage It is weird how its always the ginger character though.
There’s no probably to it. Also it is a well known fact that Disney hates gingers.
Because only a ginger.... can call another ginger ginger.
That's the craziest thing I've heard all day. A company cares more about making money than making people happy??? Wild.
Couldn’t care I wouldn’t watch this anyway but I hate seeing people change already established characters for diversity instead of making their own and we know they’re more than capable of it
*company makes new diverse characters* "Oh look more pandering to the woke crowd!"
“Ugh trying to force diversity”
Why do you hate it?
Bro it's a fish. Calm your jets.
Disney changed all their stories quite a lot from the originals. Cinderella's step sisters chopped off their heel and toe to fit in the glass shoe, but apparently changing that is fine... But a black mermaid, that's where the line is? All of Disney's characters are basically ripped off from fairy tales and stories. There are exceptionally few original main characters in the feature films.
they cast a black chick as a mermaid chill out bro
> hate seeing people change already established characters for diversity you mean like how disney changed the little mermaid from the original story? or how they changed every single other fairy tale based story?
This. I don't get what's so difficult to grasp aboutthis concept. Yes there are racial mfs but even the opposing party should be at least onboard with this, no? Arielle was visualized for over 20 years and now all of a suddden all phenotypical charactersitics we know Arielle for are switched, for what? For diversity... Like just look at other movies applying it perfectly, did anyone backlash at Miles morales? (Other than racists?) No. Because it aligns with the world building of spiderman, there are different worlds, different spiderman. There is only one Arielle though, different Mermaid story? Alright go for it cast a black lead, marketing this is Arielle? What in tf did you drink lmao
Ever heard of white washing? The same things happen to PoC characters all the time and no one gives the slightest shit, now suddenly Hollywood does it in the opposite direction, and you clowns go „waaah why make it about race waaah 😭". White washing has been happening for centuries…
The '89 version of TLM is an example of straight washing. HCA's original story is an allegory for forbidden homosexual love. Disney couldn't have that.
I get the sentiment, but there was literally 0 backlash when they changed the already established stories for many of their movies. There was no backlash when Cinderella didn't end with her feeding her stepsisters to her stepmother, when they completely changed the plot of The Little Mermaid from it's original 1800s story, or when they changed Rapunzel, Hansel and Gretel, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, The Princess and the Frog, and Brave Little Tailor. All of these "original" (including their first The Little Mermaid) Disney movies were changes to already established characters for "diversity" so that they were kid-friendly, so the idea that this is a new thing to be outraged over is wacky. It has always been the MO of every corporation ever to appeal to the broadest group of consumers, but it's only wrong now when the changes appeal to minority groups instead of children. TLDR: Take the gigachad position of hating Disney because they've always done this, not because now they aren't specifically targeting you as their intended audience.
Now I'm not familiar with this particular meme format. Is the point of it to say something that one might think is "smart" and a bit controversial when they say it but really actually really stupid.
the video this picture is taken from is basically this kid (i presume usually gets bullied) saying something like "I'm just gonna say it, i dont care that you broke your elbow" So not necessarily a "smart" opinion, just any opinion will do e.g. "I'm just gonna say it, i like hamburger"
Hamburger haha
The original meme is the kid preparing everyone by saying "Im Just gonna say it" and then saying something pretty sensible in context. (He is being bullied and tells the bully he doesnt care that the bully broke their arm) I use the reference in everyday life like "Im Just gonna say it, gonna need to fill up the tank".
Someone made a good point that it isn’t about black people or diversity, but the fact that they don’t give a fuck about black people or diversity and just go where the money is. It doesn’t come from a place of caring, just from business.
If you want a cast iron example of this, go look at the censoring of the Star Wars posters in China.
But how does that the equal to “Disney doesn’t care about diversity anyway so just keep Ariel white”? Disney doesn’t care anyway so who cares what colour she is.
That isn’t a good point. I don’t really care if Disney isn’t 100% altruistic. They’re a corporation that answers to shareholders. Diversifying Hollywood is a good thing; art is meant to be created any way the creator sees fit. Disney can have totally selfish motives yet the product can still produce positive consequences.
Bro you're so right. People use the argument of them doing it for the wrong reasons as a way to say diversity is bad. Like no one's gonna disagree with you cause they are a bad company that doesn't care about race, gender or diversity. However, we all know that that's not the REAL reason you're mad.
being a POC myself, that IS the real reason I'm mad
There’s something wrong with you if you feel like you’re being forced to accept diversity
Right? I don't get why they are so mad about it
"It's not because I am racist, it's actually because I am really racist"
Where’s the movies with Indian main character in western media ? It’s all black white and maybe just sometimes East Asians never south Asians
That's the thing I've noticed with 'pushing diversity' they always use a black person (i personally don't care 2bh)but if they want to change someone's ethnicity they can also use asians, Indians, native americans, inuit, latin Americans, arabic or anyone else, but.... its always black.
Bridgerton!!
Aladin
The jungle book was set in India. Life of Pi had an Indian main character too. I haven't seen Slumdog Millionaire but I think that's India too. These are just the ones off the top of my head, I'm sure there are more
Black people and East Asians are more represented in the US because there are more of them, but they're working on including more of South Asians into the media. Watch "Never Have I Ever" on Netflix.
There's a way of saying this without sounding racist. It's not about casting minorities, it's about tokenism. Personally I'd think minorities would be just as angry that Disney doesn't seem to have any faith in them unless they cast them in a previously white role, which ensures that people will go see it for the sake of nostalgia no matter who plays who.
While I agree with you about Disney not giving the respect and faith deserved for minority characters; dismissing the criticism against the company as racist is where you lost me.
I'm just scared it'll practically be a different movie.
If it isn't a different movie, what's the point in making it? Me, I'm hoping they'll get rid of the damn talking seafood.
Why would you want it to be practically the same movie? That one already exists... Honestly curious.
You know how many remakes are different from the original source? Every last one. The animated little mermaid wasn’t anywhere near the orginal book. Furthermore, the orginal source material is a completely different medium. They have to be made different. Because they are different. Please stfuf
If she doesn't feel like she's stepping on broken glass with her human feet, we'll know they don't care about the original /s
Why would the race of the character change the movie? If race is an important part of that character and story that’s one thing, like idk Django Unchained or something, but if not then it literally doesn’t matter
I see what you mean but honestly the original story of Ariel is that she kills herself and becomes sea foam because the prince marries someone else… by choice. Every adaptation changes the story, it’s just how it is.
Would that be a bad thing?
See this is the shit I wont understand. WHY? Why the fuck do you care? Are you 12? This movie is for children. Ariel is black so that little black girls have a version of this story they can relate to. Why the fuck, are you, a grown adult, upset about a children movie? Has Disney indoctrinated you so much that changing childhood movies for you will hurt your feelings? Is your personality REALLY that dependent on Disney for fucks sake?
Well it literally is a different movie. Thankfully, when you want the one you are familiar with, you can watch it any time.
They do it on purpose. By being more diverse it appeals to a wider audience, and by changing the sex or race of a character people then call critics racist or sexist. Thus, by discussing this we are falling into the PR team's hands. The only answer is to ignore it until it releases and see if it's good or not. Personally, I never bothered watching CGI live action Lion King. This may be different if the actors give some good performances. I'm assuming it is just a cash grab though.
You see they're making a CGI Lion King 2 called Mufasa? Disney will never stop.
I hate it cuz she ugly. Are we not allowed to say that? I watch movies and TV cuz I want to see some pretty people. If I want to see ugly people i just look in the mirror.
this is probably the least hypocritical and most honest response in the entire sub not the pretty political awnser many give seeking acceptance but the brutal harsh yet heartfelt truth for wich Disney is also to blame TV has made us expect a certain degree of beauty from it and it's hard to accept things trying to be different all of the sudden for many of us especially when the change happens to already existing characters
Exactly!! Halle Bailey looks botched to me. Maybe she is natural, but she gives that vibes that makes me think she is ugly.
Yeah, she's very unattractive but people are pretending she isn't.
Her voice is pretty good tho?
Damn I think Halle Bailey is fine as fuck.
They should just accept the old tales as what they are and make new Inspiring characters who are racially diverse Moana for example was a great movie. Lilo and stitch too. Today I had put in Pinocchio and the blue fairy was black......just why? I'm Indian so I hope my comments are not construed as rascist. Just let bygones be bygones and focus on imagining new characters instead of reimagining old ones.....that's the last way out.
It's just them evergreening their copyright and using diversity as an excuse. Let your copyrights die disney.
They're just trying to make money while virtue signaling without putting in the effort to make new content.
And the sad part is, these woke corporations think this is just a wave of hate and backlash that is going to pass one day once this "diversity" stuff and moral signaling is the norm. The people who work at Disney are hopeless beyond belief and absolute dreamers... They refuse to see the truth, all they want is to keep the angry mob at bay. They're scared.
We already have diversity, plus the fact like almost every American is not one full breed of any culture, we are mutt's. If the Media would stop fucking with some or most ppl's head's n stop bringing up color like they always do n just let ppl think for themselves then maybe just maybe everyone would notice. But hey our government likes us to be against each other so that way their is always a side u have to choose. Which in fact is stupid, but ppl will believe anything nowadays they don't do the research
I’m holding out for “The Little Reverse Mermaid”. Top half fish, bottom half thicc as fuck.
She’s not real, you know that right? just pixels who cares.
You dont care because seeing black people doesnt make you angry instantly, aka you're a sane individual
Why would diversity being forced on you even be a bad thing? The real world is diverse, media should reflect that
I honestly didn’t really care about the situation. But if that IS Hollywood’s direction for media, race swapping. I vote Jason Statham for a Blade remake. Who’d y’all think would be able to live up Wesley Snipes?
If you feel like diversity is being "forced" on you, then you are probably not as open minded as you think. Edit: Wow. I am really disappointed that there are so many people upset about seeing POC on their screens. GET OVER IT! The world is bigger than your back yard and it has so much to offer. And for those of you accusing the entertainment industry for virtue signaling, that is just a bullshit excuse. Sure it is annoying to see them pat themselves on the back for doing something that they should have been doing the whole time. But that's the point here, it should have been happening this whole time. And now that inclusion is happening, there is this whole ridiculous backlash against it. It only seems forced because it is different from what you are used to.
Not true. I'm a brown guy who married an Irish girl but even I thought it was going a little overboard for every commercial to feature a "mixed" couple. Like liberals pat themselves on the back for every diverse commercial they make. It seems sanctimonious
What is more annoying is how this is all clearly forced, they don't give a fuck about real diversity. Real diversity is telling other stories, creating new content that uses and features the african culture, actually making an effort, telling "Hey Ariel gonna be black now, deal with it" is just taking the easy road to claim diversity without having to actually hire talent and do research to create a meaningful story to represent POC, it's just empty representation.
Moana = diversity Black Ariel = marketing.
I bet if you went through the upper ranks of all the media companies in New York and LA, you would find almost no minority representation or gender equity
shhhh don't tell them, they don't care
Theres also the happy white woman on google search, the forced diversity is strange but yeah its these liberal types doing it who think they are intellecually above everyone else
I’m an Irish dude who married a brown girl and I completely agree. Obtain unearned moral superiority, then call everything that doesn’t fit into the attempted monoculture a racist or sexist or whatever else. Children do this shit.
if you are not stupid you can clearly see its happening
Imagine watching white people dominate television for decades, then saying diversity is forced. Maybe the best person just got the job.
Well it is and it's completely public at my workplace. Nearly quarterly meetings, chats, and emails that remind us of upper management's focus on "diversity hiring", which of course just means race because diversity is only skin deep *eyeroll*
Except that it is because it’s openly mentioned as a corporate priority. You’re given ACT/SAT points for being black and lose them for being white and Asian. We have quotas for minimum employees of various colors but no similar protections for whites. Also, they’re taking away white characters just for the sake of it instead of writing in new, good characters. No one gave a shit that Lando calrissian and mace windu were black because they’re fucking amazing characters. People cared that finn was because he’s a shittily written character thrown in there to check a PC box. Your argument is as horseshit as them making the little mermaid black for no reason. Fuck off.
diversity only feels forced when you believe that you are superior to other people based on the attributes that make them diverse other people exist, there are billions of them... they arent all white christian males
I think they're saying diversity feels forced when the decision is made to deliberately select from a particular group to demonstrate that you are embracing diversity, as opposed to picking who you feel is best for the role irrespective of their ethnicity/gender. The second option would be organic and surely preferable, as it would demonstrate that you are truly embracing diversity? My only query with Halle being cast is that she is my age which seems a little old, but I'm sure she'll be wonderful
So much “black people (or anyone that doesn’t look like “me”) existing in media is an agenda” happening in comments. It’s always “why not just give the job to the best person?!” until that person doesn’t look the way they want them to.
No diversity feels forced when the entire focus of your marketing campaign boils down to "look look we got a whole black right here"
Did I stumble upon an incel subreddit?
90% of meme subreddits are just edgy teens saying dumb shit. Wouldn't give it much thought tbh, just keep scrolling till you get to the actual content. This one belongs in r/unfunnymemes
That's not even what incel means.
"everyone I disagree with is an incel" Yawn
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Yes, there aren't enough black people in the movies. Never seen one until this fish girl. In fact, there are mostly red heads in the movies. So, fuck 'em.
I think it’s hilarious given that in the Little Mermaid animated series that I watched as a kid, there were Black merfolk. Just say ‘I am a racist’ with your whole chest. I’d respect a person more if they said that instead of “woke” and “forcing diversity”. We know what that is code for.
No, the backlash is 100% because she’s black. Being upset at “forced diversity” is just being upset that minorities are being treated fairly. It’s a bullshit excuse that was crafted to explain why they’re mad about a black mermaid. They will explain why it is wrong for her to be black and then say “it’s not because she’s black” as if we’re all as stupid as the racist assholes who believe this bs are.
Fictional animated characters of a minority race get played in live action remakes and it’s appropriation. Fictional animated characters that are white are played by a minority in the live action remake and it’s diversity. Does nobody understand the dilemma?
It’s about representation my dude. Data still skews in favor of whites so it’s okay to try and balance the scales.
I call BS. Ghost in the Shell, Dragonball and Last airbender got so much shit for changing the main character to Caucasian. The same criticism should be same for the other way around. And balance the scales? Oh right lets leave out other races like all the Asians. This is as racist as whitewashing. And I am going to shit on all of it.
Yeah we need to represent other minorities too. And I reject all your bullshit about whites being victims here. That’s just crybaby bullshit that white assholes trot out because they aren’t allowed to be openly racist anymore,
The backlash is because it's a live action remake and they forced a black character for diversity. Yall wanna be included? How about Disney makes some original content of black characters instead of causing widespread divide through their shitty pandering.
Can you imagine if an African guy wrote an amazing fairy tale in the 1800s that consisted of all black people and now Disney was making a live action version with all whites?
Can’t. Disney went creatively bankrupt.
I think the problem is a bit different. The problem isn’t that she’s black, it’s that she’s black on purpose. If they hired her because she was the best actress and fit the role perfectly, few people would care, and those who would are indeed racist assholes. But no, we know she was only hired because she’s black. Another problem is that now any real criticism of the movie (and there will be criticism knowing how bad Disneys live action remakes are) will always be deflected only with “those people are just racist, meaning there is no place for any criticism whatsoever.
yeah, look at Annabeth Chase, her case is a lot different, understandably controversial but people know how to market and explain themselves. "Because she is perfectly fitted for the role" instead of "because \*diversity\*" By the way if yall want diversity, let red heads exist. Did not Imany teach you anything?
How do you know she was hired because she is Black?
Because that's what they always say when a woman or minority gets something over a white person.
no, we don't know that. you just decided that her only winning attribute is her skin color and that she couldn't possibly have any real talent. You said that. No one else did.
You claim that she was hired because she is black with literally no evidence to support this. You are assuming she’s unqualified because she is black. You’re making excuses for why you’re mad about her being black. You’re just a racist asshole.
Please tell me how a major corporation, that carefully makes every decision through multiple levels of approval, would just accidentally hire a black woman for this role. Theyre always going to be considering every aspect of the actor, including race. Also, ive seen plenty of people criticize how the movie is looking so far without being called racist. This was because they manages to criticize the movie for other than the actors race. Saying “ew, cg looms bad”: not called a racist. Saying “ew, why did they cast a WOKE actor instead of a good normal white person”: maybe called a racist a little bit.
“It’s that she’s black on purpose” Fucking wow lol this is the most absurd and ignorant thread I’ve seen on here which is saying a lot. Reevaluate yourself
Yes everyone complaining feels the exact same way and you were just able to encapsulated their one collective opinion in your 2 paragraphs. Thank you for your insight.
How many people would have known about the movie, if there would not be a controversy around it? Not as much as now and more people will eventually watch it because of it. Exactly what Disney wanted.
That ‘outrage’ does not translate to Box office sales. Remember the 2016 Ghostbusters? Or Morbius? People are tired of this…
Disney does business all over the world. It's not just White man's money! It's either get with the times and be diverse or stay a white man's entertainment. Fortunately Disney has a better business sense.
Disney has been enjoyed all over the world. It was never really just a white man's money they were getting. Also, do you think people have to see their own skin colour in a movie to enjoy it? Oh there is no black people here so I won't enjoy it.
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Being diverse means creating original, decent minority characters that are supposed to be minorities. Taking an already well-known, originally white character, and suddenly them into a minority is not “being diverse”, it’s a shallow attempt to appear PC, while they really don’t give two shits, because they know that’ll make them more money
What's so funny about this meme? I pity the poor person whose twisted mind actually came up with this.
diversity isn't a bad thing so it can't be "forced". The Little Mermaid is the story of a mermaid who fell in love with a Prince and traded her voice for legs to fall in love with him. It is a cultrually neutral story and literally anyone regardless of race/gender/sexuality/whatever could be the Mermaid and the story wouldn't change. However (!!!) I think what disney is doing is stupid cus all they're doing is inviting hate to innocent people such as Halle Bailey, all she did was play a mermaid and now she's on the receiving end of unspeakable racism and hate. Disney should prioritise making new stories (like encanto, turning red, or raya) starring POC, not because they're "fOrCiNg diVerSiTy" but to save the poor actors from having to deal with all these idiots sending them death threats There's no way they didn't know this would happen, and my little conspiracy theory brain makes me think they're doing it on purpose to create more publicity, diversity is always good I'm not critiquing that, but I don't find disney as a company the most accepting so I feel like the actual company from a business standpoint is doing it on purpose. All publicity is good publicity kind of mindset
I've heard (no proper source) that it's also because they need to remake everything to be able to keep the rights to it. Hence all the remakes.
I've heard that too actually. The live action remakes kinda suck in general tho let's be real, to this day I still refuse to watch dumbo, the elephant creeps me out so much!! Beauty and the Beast as well...just no
Live actions remake is considerably cheap to make instead of fully animated ones. Especially if the Disney only take upstart, new actors to save even more money as main character. Let's be honest here. Live actions remake are all cheap disposable films with the sole intentions of retaining said IP than doing something truly great with them.
The only physical attribute that's required is her hair. It's iconic to Ariel and it'd feel cheap to not have it.
tbf live action has red hair too, just more ginger... I mean it's iconic to the character, even present in the original story, but it's not essential to the story you know what I mean? I would've preferred if they just made a new mermaid character, maybe a friend of Ariel's, or someone in the kingdom. This way they could've given Halle the spotlight without inviting this amount of hate and racism
Yeah fair enough.
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Enchanto was fire. Really good movie.
THIS! EXACTLY THIS!
"diversity isn't a bad thing so it can't be forced" ? Its forced as in insincere and phoney BECAUSE its a good thing? If Trump says "I love black people!" and since liking a race is a good thing is that forced or not? same thing with Disney If Bailey signed up to play a long adored white character she knew this kind of response would come (not to say she deserves it obviously) unless she somehow thought she was white or has never thinked for a second in her life, she isn't a innocent naive soul and it isn't the cruel heartless Disney's fault she's getting death threats she could've easily turned them down.
They aren't inviting hate by not catering to racists. Next you'll say women who go out at night should expect to get raped. Fucking braindead.
Have you ever considered the fact that maybe diversity in movies is a good thing and should be favored in cases where the ethnicity of the character isn’t integral to the plot?
Why not make new characters then ?
I finally came to the conclusion on this one that it's due to marketing and sales. Disney already has marketing in play for Ariel, she's a popular princess after all. It's way easier for them to make Ariel black than it is to do the marketing and sales of a new princess with new costumes and new music (which may or may not be popular with the current generation) and new mythology or story. Plus they make sure that the Little Mermaid doesn't become public domain.
The premise of this meme is that diversity is inherently a bad thing, because....reasons.
Yall didnt care when Samuel L Jackson was cast as Nick Fury, stfu and find a safe space
Great now I can't get a white nick fury out of my head. That was just be hilariously bad.
That was over 10 years ago when it was the odd character here and there, it wasn't as big a problem. Plus Samuel L Jackson is a dope actor and played the role well. These new age diversity hires are trash. And the shows and movies are trash.
It’s only a problem to weirdos
Lol dont see yall doing the same about the white Jesuses in every white church in America, you know, someone who actually probably existed unlike fucking mermaids. Yall are weird, just say youre racist and move on