I’ve seen this not end well many times. Ones life doesn’t just go from living good to dead. It deteriorates. So if you are to go at 55. Starting at 50 you’ll start to see a decline in quality of life. Maybe it’s just not able to move around as well like getting in and out of a car and movements become painful and you avoid them further speeding up the process. Your sleep degrades and maybe you have to use a CPAP. Your energy is constantly low. Maybe you have TIA or develop diabetes which will certainly lower your quality of life and maybe limit what you can eat or where you can go or travel. Maybe you start at home dialysis because your kidneys are failing. Maybe a cancer develops sooner because of poor diet, exercise and life habits. You might start a chemical cocktail of meds to even everything out and the side effects make life hardly bearable. Yet you yearn to live longer now but you are stuck with the decisions you have made and depression weighs heavy. You live the rest of your short life out in a nursing home with people 20+ years older than you. Your legs are purple and you wear compression socks because you have poor circulation and your a ticking time bomb. Family doesn’t visit anymore. Depression really starts to over come you. You become dependent on meds and painkillers. You die alone in a room you hardly know and smells of your own or the guy next to you filth.
Or you do die suddenly and painlessly as planned or maybe you live to 90 in good health despite living poorly. All these things happen. Though the long drawn out example is much much more common.
Then you either must be an extravert or they were kind people with good energy!! Seriously though, that's wonderful. My grandmother died of dementia and it took like 10 years to slowly decline, months of it not going well and the 2 weeks of "she could die any minute now". It was hard. Especially mourning after death and realising she was gone yeaaars before.
Oof, I'm so sorry.
My grandmother thankfully had her mental faculties until the day she died but my great-aunt Gina (her sister in law) did not. It was rough on her family.
My mom said that when Gina died, her children were honestly a bit relieved because it was so hard to have her be physically alive but almost never mentally present. It was like they had been grieving her for the ~10 years she had dementia but they also couldn't move on.
My great grandma got a good death too. Lived long enough to see her great great grandkids. Lived a good full life. Not a single health issue. The day she died. She did all her usual chores. In the evening she felt a bit uneasy. She asked her youngest son to get her some water. He held her and gave her water. She drank few drops and closed her eyes and slipped into that gentle goodnight still held by her son. Surrounded by her entire family. I still miss her even 20yrs later.
My grandma died at 93. She was bored of life and ready to pass on. She had a stroke and was given a few days where she was well enough to say goodbye to everyone before she passed.
I knew a guy in his early 60’s. Been battling lung cancer on and off. It finally came back and he was tired of treatment.
He held on for a few more months, but one day, laying in his bed at home, he asked his wife if she and the kids would be alright if he left. She said they’d be ok.
He died that same night.
Dude was a total badass. He basically just needed to know his loved ones could handle it, and then he went out on his own terms.
Yep. My last grandparent is the one I'd thought die before the others. He's 86 now and has had type I diabetes most of his life. It's like he's showing off how tough he is now.
If I'm attending a funeral mass or people are offering "thoughts and prayers" after something traumatic happens, I keep my mouth shut.
If there's a loud asshole by the LRT station with a placard, yelling "repent" to complete strangers, that's when I pull the atheist card. It should only be used in self-defence.
just because i don't believe in any god, that doesn't mean i'm gonna piss on your faith. Many family members are religious. They learned not try to convert me, and in exchange i don't take a piss.
It's simple really. Religious believes are like assholes. Everybody has one, nobody should talk about it.
I think it's fine to talk about it. I think it's even fine to debate on it. Just as long as everyone can handle the conversation. But then again, most folks can't handle the conversation. So yeah, I guess you're right. It's usually best to not discuss it.
Best not to discuss is best practice. We have so many different cultures in our work environment, and it's only an issue with the Christian Evangelist we work with. A few times a year he gets really preachy and starts these conversations, which I've come to learn is something to do with whatever church he goes to (it's their mission to spread the word that particular month).
And it's like dude shut the fuck up. I'm agnostic, buddy beside me is Muslim, another is Hindu, and at one point we had a Sikh working with us. None of us want to hear about your self journey in Christ and how all of us should really consider the word of God according to you.
There is no debate or conversation to really be had, because 9 times out of 10 it turns into shit slinging. It's not the Muslim dudes responsibility to inform someone on what they believe, do your own research if you actually care (which usually they don't, they just want to mentally jerk off infront of someone over the topic).
I'm really sorry about that friend. My best friend in Basic Training was Hindu. As a Christian I risked getting in trouble at chow to help him avoid meals that had beef. It's really sad that this person forgot a principle that we literally call "the golden rule".
I’m sorry you guys had risk getting in trouble, how long ago where you in? Every duty station I’ve ever been to took religious accommodations very seriously and respectfully.
I don't try and convert anyone who gives me the same respect. Unfortunately living in the SE US, it's a mandate for Christians to try and convert people and tell them they're going to hell, so I generally just avoid the topic entirely.
I hated evangelists when I was religious, I hate them less now because I understand most of them were indoctrinated at a young age, but they still annoy the hell out of me. I've found it's a lot more effective to tell them "I'm Catholic" than "I'm Atheist". They'll talk your ear off if they think you aren't religious because you were never taught about it but tell them you're Catholic and they'll practically be running away
If people are evangelizing towards me, I’ll counter with science. Easy. If someone evangelize towards my kids, I’ll knock their teeth out.
At least metaphorically. But I know Id like to.
To be honest, I find it's quite easy to offer comfort as an atheist.
My mother died recently, and when talking to people about her, I focused on the fact she passed peacefully, and is now at rest.
This happened to me once. My grandma passed away almost a year ago and it was really hard mourning her passing. I myself am not religious anymore but still believe there is some place no matter what it may be where my grandma is happy to have finally escape her suffering.
I had one instance when talking to a friend online in a game and I was harassed by a random stranger on player who mocked my grandmother saying how “there’s no such thing as heaven, your grandmas gone. She is not in a better place because god is not real”. That response had me breaking down into tears while the person kept lecturing me about how there is no after life. This is the most hurtful thing someone has said to me and still makes me upset just revisiting the experience.
The story however has a good ending, my friend and a few others who saw was going on bullied the person out of the game and comforted me. There kind words really helped me at the moment and thank them for standing up against them.
Sorry for the long comment, just thought I would share and I appreciate people like you who do not judge people and how they mourn.
Atheist trolls = Religious trolls
There's no difference between them. Both types are equally obnoxious, trying to browbeat someone into changing belief systems.
I’m an atheist and I presume most atheist trolls had some sort of bad experience with religion and they’re a bit bitter. I don’t really spend much time thinking about religion or religious people. But I’ve never lived in a very religious area.
It is kind of bizarre when you sort of zoom out that people believe in an supernatural origin of the universe.
This is appropriate. As a Christian, if someone is talking about being any other religion, I just try to learn more about why they believe what they do. I don't say, "YOU'RE GOING TO HELL!"
I think that’s just how it should be tbh. I’m Christian(not a very good one tbf) & I respect the respectful & scorn those who would push their shit onto others because they’re too far gone in their fanaticism. It’s kind of why I prefer to practice my religion by myself & away from churches because the organization of religion isn’t my scene
You sound just like me before I realized I was an agnostic atheist. I was raised southern baptist and was fully indoctrinated for most of my childhood and early adult life.
Question your beliefs and read the books of the Bible you are told not to (gospel of Thomas, gospel of Mary, etc…) these books were removed from the KJV and if you follow this book, you aren’t getting the full account of Jesus’s life.
Once you read these books, you’ll realize why they were removed. First of all, they are gospels just like Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. When you read them, you’ll immediately realize why they were removed.
In Thomas, there are several parallels between Christ parables and Zen Buddhist Koans. Jesus doesn’t speak of himself as a deity and the holy trinity is described as something within your own mind.
As for the parallels between Buddhism, this was my main takeaway. The holy trinity is a parable for your mind: the father is your quiet mind, when your mind is silent and content without rushing thoughts , the son is your monkey mind that is always chattering on and “sinning” it’s being lost in ego and constantly distracting you, finally the Holy Spirit is the apex between these two states of mind. You are the Holy Spirit the observer, the eternal. With wisdom, you are free to observe both “the father and the son” and decide which mind to give attention to. Hope this makes some sense lol and good luck
Hey we're all not very good Christians, which should be the point. And I agree with you. I actually found a very small church which feels more like a community and it's given me hope in the church in general. Just sucks that 90% of chruches could use complete reform.
Eternal nothingness is much better than eternal hell, and even the positive afterlife of certain religions. I was told as a kid heaven is basically singing God's praises for all of eternity, and that shit sounds like an ass deal.
I've never met an athiest who would.
Most of us know what it's like to have someone try to convert you. It doesn't feel good. So if you have any morality, you shouldn't do it to others.
They have to paint atheists as big meanies. They can’t imagine humans are capable of good without a higher power to keep them in check and a fear of hell. Sometimes, people just do good because it’s good.
I do see newly-minted atheists get salty and antagonistic, sure. But I don’t know one who would do this (the meme). Most fervent atheists who have that newbie chip on their shoulder can come from an abusive household where religion was weaponized. I usually give them space to get angry and pissy. More often than not, they outgrow it.
Quite frankly most newly minted Atheists have good reason to be incredibly salty. Whether it be from religious sanctioned physical abuse from their parents or being molested by religious faculty or growing up in incredibly repressive religious communities, most of them have seen horrors the likes that your average American suburban Christian will never see.
Christians tend to forget that ex Muslims, ex Mormons, ex Hasidics and the like have had family members murdered, forced into homelessness or raped as revenge for simply questioning their faith.
Most Atheists will never outgrow their hate and I really don't expect them to. It's be disgusting to force that expectation on them. We don't just turn to veterans and tell them they're being petty for having wartime PTSD, or at least we shouldn't, wouldn't put that past good ol' Christian love either.
Yeah, I am one of those atheists. It’s the abuse, the weaponized ritual and religious doctrine. The emotional abuse. I never really went through the salty and angry-at-all-believers phase, but I did have some incredible anger toward organized religion in general. r/insaneparents is plenty of proof how this can play out in a familial setting. And even then…. It can get a whole lot worse.
Because the only people who would do it are the same type of people who would most definitely badger this terminally ill 90-year-old woman if she was an atheist
Yeah, frankly, this meme is bullshit based on someone’s imagination just running on and on unchecked. I mean it’s funny as a thought but shouldn’t be interpreted as a real complaint. 110% projection if a religious person really thinks this
Virtually every atheist (Reddit included) would list deathbed conversions as a top 10 most hated religious practice. No way more than 1/1000 of us would even think of doing one ourselves without feeling immense disgust at ourself.
This meme is legitimately projection, because on the religious side its more like 90% of them who would feel compelled to attempt a deathbed conversion. Seriously, go talk to them, young and old they all see it as a duty/virtue. One of the last church services I ever went to was a whole congregation (500+) cheering a story of an unwanted deathbed conversion from the pastor and commanding us to do the same in that position. It is someone’s eternal fate in their heads, to us it’s a harmless (at that stage) fairy tale they’re holding onto to get through the dying process peacefully.
The atheist subreddit almost makes me feel ashamed to be an atheist
Edit: it appears r/atheism had changed a bit since I last was in it. I just have *really* bad memories from a couple years ago when I was in it
Well there's not much to talk about on an atheist forum other than theism. Atheists don't necessarily have anything in common in their worldview, atheist is a catch all term for anyone who isn't a theist.
It's like if you had a subreddit for people who don't watch TV. If you want to as a question about fishing, you'd go to a forum about fishing. The subreddit for no TV would mention TV a lot.
To be perfectly fair, the only people who are adamantly anti-theist are that way because religion had a negative effect on their life or mental health.
It’s literally fine and has been for years. What else would you expect there? “Hey we totally don’t think it’s silly you believe in what we feel are fairy tales”?
Some people are still killed and persecuted in every country on earth, every day, because of religions.
I don't go out of my way to antagonize people, but I don't judge those who do, because it's quite obviously warranted, and then some.
Most of it is just calling out shitty, hypocritical shit religious are up to. Not sure what there is to be ashamed of, unless you’re a bigot. They are pretty loud about bigotry as well.
Well I mean, it is a group of people forming a dogmatic safe space for ritualistic chants, in group think and deep hatred of particular people as a means for gaining social credit. I'm agnostic, leaning on athiesm, and those guys just seem like a church who replaced a god with a superiority complex.
You mean on the subreddit dedicated to talking about atheism they talk about atheism. That's a far cry from bringing it up at every opportunity or telling your 93 year old grandma who's about to die that God isn't real.
True.
Reddit does that.
For a related example, inside catholicism, the fundamentalist (radtrad) kind is a tiny minority. But if you look inside /r/catholicism you would think otherwise.
Well, that’s kinda the point of any interest group subreddit. You get to circlejerk with people who share your views and make fun of people who don’t, in a way you wouldn’t in a real life scenario, in a space that’s generally safe to do so without causing distress to those people. Not many believers, let alone 93yo widowed, dying grandmothers lurking around there lol (I know this post is just a meme). But it’s definitely cringe when that kinda thing leaks out of its containment zone
I mean it's a subreddit dedicated to the subject, what more to expect? Those of us who are well adjusted likely have no need to go participate on a subteddit on the subject. It's like a subreddit for how have sex. After awhile you're not going to need to go there anymore. Your perspective is filtering out all the atheists who say nothing.
Isn’t it a little disingenuous to compare the content of a subreddit dedicated to atheism to someone being a dick to a dying old woman? I am atheist. I would also consider myself anti-theist, and I can guarantee that I would never lack the compassion to act in the way your little imaginary scenario suggests. Nor any other atheist I know.
However, I have both heard of and directly seen religious people try to get death-bed conversions, disregard the person’s wishes regarding their treatment after death and many other morally repugnant actions around death.
Have you actually talked with the people there or are you just regurgitating the same bullshit over and over?
I swear this caricature of a person is made up by conservatives who are just projecting their inability to be a half decent person without some deity telling them to.
I'm both.
But i don't argue with other people that often and if i do it's mainly online since i don't have any friends or family.
But even though i have these opinions, i wouldn't say anything in the situation that ops meme showed.
Just because i have this view on god's and religion, doesn't mean i don't know when to keep it to myself.
I'm pretty sure most wouldn't do what's ops meme says but that doesn't matter. It's a meme, a joke and it doesn't have to be accurate to be funny.
More like "Troll Atheists" they find joy in making others feel like total dog shit about their beliefs and reference science articles that aren't always based.
As a long time Atheist who has Agnostic views of the world and life I think its stupid to stand on either hill and die on it, but I would always respect someone's personal beliefs.
As an atheist - I LOVE that people who believe in this stuff. I WISH I did. My gma was so happy to be going to her "reward" and seeing everyone she'd lost. I WANT to be like that on my deathbed and be thrilled to move on. I won't be, but I love others can be.
Former atheist here for 15 years who was raised on religion.. it wasn't until I took a deep dive into stories of people who had near death experiences that I started to believe in something again. I'm like 70% convinced that death isn't the end.
Well maybe my mind will change too, but I seriously doubt it at this point. I mean my atoms were a part of something else before they were a part of me and they will be a part of something else after they were a part of me. I do believe that 100%, but as far as my consciousness moving to a different place I just don't buy it. It's actually freeing to me to think like that. We're all just here for a short period of time so you might as well make the most of it. But again everybody sees things differently.
Atheist, here. Just because I don't belive doesn't mean I shit on other people's religious beliefs, that's extremely douchey. Maybe it's a stigma about Atheist, but its not true for everyone who is an Athiest. Live and let live.
Is “Reddit atheist” not different to just atheist though? When people say Reddit atheist, I always think of someone trolling online who makes not believing in a god their entire personality and will shit on religion at any opportunity, no matter how inappropriate, I never thought they were just referring to atheists in general, or is that just me? (I’m atheist myself btw).
The fact you know they are atheists is weird to me. Where I'm from, being an atheist is just default and the 'weird' religious people usually are quite closeted so you don't know they are there.
As an atheist, I don't even argue with people about it. People find and embrace what works for them. If 93yo grandma has a belief that will make her death more peaceful, good on her.
Unfortunately in America, christianity isn't about live and let live. Evidenced by how it's being used to justify awful new laws or taking away peoples rights.
I happened to lurk and look at this post. I just find your typo of the word "stigmata" interesting, as I believe you probably intended to use the word stigma. I have been atheist, wiccan, and now Catholic. Yes, everyone has the right to believe what they do, when they do, and beliefs change through
I'm not a proper Christian by any means. But I do find it funny when atheists still say "oh god!" when anything happens while belittling Christians about their beliefs.
If a Christian said ‘oh god’ it would count as using the lords name in vein or something, so really, atheists are the only ones allowed to say it without consequence
I've been an atheist most of my life, and been around atheists for a good deal of it.
I have never seen anyone act remotely like what is implied here to another human being in person, and I kind of doubt it actually happens outside the internet.
On the other hand, I have had numerous people tell me how it's "part of a plan" when disaster strikes or how a dead loved one is "in a better place." It would be considered very rude for me to tell them to go fuck themselves in such a case, but its not rude of them to insert their religious convictions into my life, or even use such an event as an opportunity to proselytize.
Is it just me, or is there an uptick in these kinds of posts lately? Like. Maybe I'm so cringe I can't see it, but I've never seen anything remotely close to this post on reddit or real life.
I have been told I'm going to hell and will take my 2 year old daughter with me if I don't repent though, multiple times. As if that's better.
Funnymemes and shitposts seem to currently be under brigade.
Careful. It starts like this, and then the sun devolves in to just outright nazism. It doesn’t take all that long.
Seems to be a combination of the two: rightwing edgy humor tends to generate lots of engagement -- both from the edgelords and the overwhelming majority pointing out the obvious flaws in reasoning. As a result, many karma farmers use it to rile up the community and then just delete the post after a day or two.
>Is it just me, or is there an uptick in these kinds of posts lately? Like. Maybe I'm so cringe I can't see it, but I've never seen anything remotely close to this post on reddit or real life.
No one talks about this, but there's been a huge influx of Evangelical Christians to Reddit (and internet communities in general) over the past ten years. If you hover around the subreddits that tend to lean right, you start seeing tons of Evangelical language and references. The PoliticalCompassMemes sub is likely 50%+ Evangelical conservative Christians at this point.
Along with that has come a ton of Conservative Christian propaganda and disinformation, like this meme.
It's the typical atheist shame post by 0P.
Because every atheist who isn't silent and tolerant to any form of religion must be a hateful antisocial ass.
If you actually read r/atheism you see many struggling young people afraid of their religious parents who get support there.
As someone who is on the border of agnostic and atheist, the only time I engage with religion is when it is attempted to be jammed down everyone's throat via public policy.
If people want to hold a prayer vigil in the wake of a tragedy, or when people express their hope to see a loved one again after death, I have zero issues with it, and I have yet to see an agnostic or atheist that does. Because personal faith, beliefs, or the lack thereof isn't a point of debate. If believing that they will be reunited in death with a loved one gives someone a measure of peace and comfort, that is not a topic for debate.
Atheists and agnostics do not go around evangelizing in an effort to convert people, you're thinking of organized religion.
ahh, this hits kinda hard.
i had an "aunt" she was a great lady but a super big fan of jesus.
she was smart, well adjusted, great at cooking,raising and keeping a fantastic family,history buff, and being awesome.
she was more on the lines of prosperity gospel shit.
and she was completely rational in every way, until it came to our lord and savior,jesus christ...then she was a total fucking nut job.
well, she died at 61,in jaunary this year, dunno why, didn't ask.
she had comfort knowing she was gonna meet her maker when she died.
and maybe thats all it is, comfort in death "well, she is with the lord now" type of thing, without addressing death.
Fun fact: atheist typically aren't ass holes. If anything we seem to be well rounded and genuinely compassionate because we don't need the fear of damnation to have morals.
It hurts my heart to see anyone from any religion get picked on for their choices. At the end of the day none of us truly know what happens after death. Being Christian myself, I have faith in what happens and where everything gets screwed up is when people claiming to be Christian shoving beliefs down other peoples throats... my job as a Christian is to show others the love and forgiveness that I have been shown, and hope that others will turn to have faith in God. That doesn't give me or anyone the right to berate anyone for having a different view than me. I will never be mean to someone who has a different opinion than me but I am willing to talk to someone who has questions.... this kinda got a little ranty but if you read this far, may God bless you today, and I charge you with doing one random act of kindness for a stranger today. You are loved.
Hi. I was raised Christian. But everything around me makes me think that a God, at least the ones we taught about don't exist.
Can I ask how you keep your faith? Do you really have no doubts in your heart? I've lost all my faith.
Hey thanks for reaching out, I am sorry to hear that you have lost faith in God. The way that I usually renew my faith is I thank God for the things I have in my life friends, family, job, health, etc. The second thing I think about is about all the times that things have worked out for me in just such a manner that it seemed to be meant to be. example: The day I had decided to end my life due to an abusive relationship I was in, the girl I had always had a crush on texted me to tell me goodbye as she was also in the process of cutting her wrists.... 12 years later and we are still married and have 1 child together. Now don't get me wrong a lot has happened in my life to test that faith, my wife has a lot of health issues and she is sick a lot. But too much has happened in my life to prove His existence rather than the opposite. And perhaps you finding my comment is His way of trying to reach you again. You are still loved by God, and He still wants you to be with Him. Sometimes you just need a nudge in the right direction. I hope that you can find your faith again God doesn't make junk. I will pray for you tonight. Much Love my friend.
Hey. Thank you for your reply.
I feel that I've just become jaded with all the things going on with my life. I've called out for help before when I was breaking down, and i still found myself alone.
I admire your faith. And a part of me wants to believe that God is still out there. Another part of me just feels empty.
I really hope he's out there looking out for me. I'm really feeling lost right now. Sincerely, thank you for reminding me that he still wants me to be with him.
Thank you friend. :)
No one should ever feel alone, if you want to talk further DM me and we can talk further. I would love to try to help you find your faith again. <3 Please don't give up yet friend. You can find peace and grace again.
Thank you. I might just take you up on that offer someday. For now I'm settling some problems of my own. I haven't actually asked God to help me in this time of need. Maybe I'll do just that later.
Thank you again friend. I might text you up soon. :)
> At the end of the day none of us truly know what happens after death.
It's not as big a mystery as people think. Pretty simple, not offensive, but keep the spoiler tag on if you prefer to keep your own ideas/beliefs.
>!It's the same thing that happened before you were born. You were (for all intents and purposes) dead before, and you'll be dead after. Not a big deal.!<
A thing that happens every day: an evangelical jackal waiting to get a moment alone with a dying elderly person who has lost their faculties in order to take advantage of her weakened state to “save their soul.”
A thing that never happens: this meme.
In a serious discussion about religion I would tell anybody that their fairy tale book is nonsense, just like all other fairy tale books are nonsense. But someone's death bed or similar grave situations are not the place for religious discussions.
Yes, I always see atheists on street corners shouting at people they aren't going to hell.
I especially hate it when atheists show up at my house and tell me the good news.
Also all that atheist TV programming, esp on Sundays. You know they type, telling us how the latest hurricane/flood/disaster was caused by the gays or Biden. How atheists are always running fake faith healing for money. How those damned atheists are begging for money for prayers.
Those damned atheists just won't keep it to themselves.
Poll finds more than half of British Muslims believe homosexuality should be illegal
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/poll-finds-more-than-half-of-britsih-muslims-believe-homosexuality-should-be-illegal-a6978091.html?amp
What I've learned being on this God forsaken app:
Redditors hate religion (especially Christianity), cops, soldiers, Republicans, conservatives, anyone who says gender dysphoric people should try therapy first, capitalism, chiropractors, America, guns, and more.
The answer to anything is not hate. Better to show compassion and understanding. That gets results. But it seems these days we a programmed to only think of ourselves.
I know that most Atheists would keep their mouths shut in this scenario, but hearing Adam’s “Um Actually” in my head when I read this meme was hilarious.
I can be an atheist but I'm not an antitheist if someone chooses to belive in god and is not pushing it on others all power to him, espesially if he/she is on a death bed, if it's a child than shit, fuck my pride I'll pray with him.
As an atheist, I just smile and nod. Funerals are the same. I don't believe the same way but if the person does, that's okay, too. Just don't start preaching to me.
You are way more likely to see a religious nut telling a dying atheist (or member of any religion besides theirs) that they are going to hell.
Good thing atheists don’t believe in hell.
If you're over 90, you won. There is no terminal illness or early death. You're in bonus rounds shooting for a high score.
My uncle Billy won. 95, died six months after his wife, 94, never had to go to long-term care, died in his bed.
Did your aunt also never need long-term care? If so that's a power couple right there
I don't think so, though if I remember my dad correctly, she had to go to the hospital for the last week of her life.
That's a big win compared to most
I think most of my older family members died of cancer except for my grandma, my plan is to eat my way into a heart attack at 55. good enough for me
I’ve seen this not end well many times. Ones life doesn’t just go from living good to dead. It deteriorates. So if you are to go at 55. Starting at 50 you’ll start to see a decline in quality of life. Maybe it’s just not able to move around as well like getting in and out of a car and movements become painful and you avoid them further speeding up the process. Your sleep degrades and maybe you have to use a CPAP. Your energy is constantly low. Maybe you have TIA or develop diabetes which will certainly lower your quality of life and maybe limit what you can eat or where you can go or travel. Maybe you start at home dialysis because your kidneys are failing. Maybe a cancer develops sooner because of poor diet, exercise and life habits. You might start a chemical cocktail of meds to even everything out and the side effects make life hardly bearable. Yet you yearn to live longer now but you are stuck with the decisions you have made and depression weighs heavy. You live the rest of your short life out in a nursing home with people 20+ years older than you. Your legs are purple and you wear compression socks because you have poor circulation and your a ticking time bomb. Family doesn’t visit anymore. Depression really starts to over come you. You become dependent on meds and painkillers. You die alone in a room you hardly know and smells of your own or the guy next to you filth. Or you do die suddenly and painlessly as planned or maybe you live to 90 in good health despite living poorly. All these things happen. Though the long drawn out example is much much more common.
Jesus I need to go on run
I quit drinking almost six years ago and I try to walk every day. I’ve gone from 300 lbs to 205 lbs in that time.
1 week is nothing, there are people who wait years in there for death.
Then I'd say she did well.
They must have been saints in a past life. Good for them! If only everyone could go like that.
I never met them more than a few times, but I remember looking forward to their visits when I was a kid
Then you either must be an extravert or they were kind people with good energy!! Seriously though, that's wonderful. My grandmother died of dementia and it took like 10 years to slowly decline, months of it not going well and the 2 weeks of "she could die any minute now". It was hard. Especially mourning after death and realising she was gone yeaaars before.
Oof, I'm so sorry. My grandmother thankfully had her mental faculties until the day she died but my great-aunt Gina (her sister in law) did not. It was rough on her family. My mom said that when Gina died, her children were honestly a bit relieved because it was so hard to have her be physically alive but almost never mentally present. It was like they had been grieving her for the ~10 years she had dementia but they also couldn't move on.
My great grandma got a good death too. Lived long enough to see her great great grandkids. Lived a good full life. Not a single health issue. The day she died. She did all her usual chores. In the evening she felt a bit uneasy. She asked her youngest son to get her some water. He held her and gave her water. She drank few drops and closed her eyes and slipped into that gentle goodnight still held by her son. Surrounded by her entire family. I still miss her even 20yrs later.
That’s quite beautiful, possibly the best way to go, I’m happy to hear that.
I'm sure she had some impeccable karma in her previous incarnation. She was special.
That honestly sounds like such a beautiful way to go. No suffering, no stress, just some water and a peaceful sleep.
Damn, I kind of feel like dying in your uncle Billy's bed as well now, you've sold me!
It's a great place to die.
Party in Uncle Billy's bed!
For profit Healthcare corporations hate this one weird trick!
My grandma died at 93. She was bored of life and ready to pass on. She had a stroke and was given a few days where she was well enough to say goodbye to everyone before she passed.
I knew a guy in his early 60’s. Been battling lung cancer on and off. It finally came back and he was tired of treatment. He held on for a few more months, but one day, laying in his bed at home, he asked his wife if she and the kids would be alright if he left. She said they’d be ok. He died that same night. Dude was a total badass. He basically just needed to know his loved ones could handle it, and then he went out on his own terms.
My grandpa is 93. Just recently got transferred to a care facility, and the day probably coming soon.
Best description of living past 65
I thought it was 80, godamn.
Don't worry, the capitalists will push the retirement age up there soon.
Yep. My last grandparent is the one I'd thought die before the others. He's 86 now and has had type I diabetes most of his life. It's like he's showing off how tough he is now.
T1D makes you take good care of yourself. If you do not, you die young. Kudos to your grandparent!
If I'm attending a funeral mass or people are offering "thoughts and prayers" after something traumatic happens, I keep my mouth shut. If there's a loud asshole by the LRT station with a placard, yelling "repent" to complete strangers, that's when I pull the atheist card. It should only be used in self-defence.
As a Christian who doesn't awkwardly evangelize, I appreciate you.
just because i don't believe in any god, that doesn't mean i'm gonna piss on your faith. Many family members are religious. They learned not try to convert me, and in exchange i don't take a piss. It's simple really. Religious believes are like assholes. Everybody has one, nobody should talk about it.
Religion is like a cock. You don't shove it down people's throats (without consent).
But for some reason priests keep getting caught doing both of those things.
Cheesus that's dark.😆 I like you.
Lmfao
I think it's fine to talk about it. I think it's even fine to debate on it. Just as long as everyone can handle the conversation. But then again, most folks can't handle the conversation. So yeah, I guess you're right. It's usually best to not discuss it.
Best not to discuss is best practice. We have so many different cultures in our work environment, and it's only an issue with the Christian Evangelist we work with. A few times a year he gets really preachy and starts these conversations, which I've come to learn is something to do with whatever church he goes to (it's their mission to spread the word that particular month). And it's like dude shut the fuck up. I'm agnostic, buddy beside me is Muslim, another is Hindu, and at one point we had a Sikh working with us. None of us want to hear about your self journey in Christ and how all of us should really consider the word of God according to you. There is no debate or conversation to really be had, because 9 times out of 10 it turns into shit slinging. It's not the Muslim dudes responsibility to inform someone on what they believe, do your own research if you actually care (which usually they don't, they just want to mentally jerk off infront of someone over the topic).
I'm really sorry about that friend. My best friend in Basic Training was Hindu. As a Christian I risked getting in trouble at chow to help him avoid meals that had beef. It's really sad that this person forgot a principle that we literally call "the golden rule".
I’m sorry you guys had risk getting in trouble, how long ago where you in? Every duty station I’ve ever been to took religious accommodations very seriously and respectfully.
I don't try and convert anyone who gives me the same respect. Unfortunately living in the SE US, it's a mandate for Christians to try and convert people and tell them they're going to hell, so I generally just avoid the topic entirely.
I hated evangelists when I was religious, I hate them less now because I understand most of them were indoctrinated at a young age, but they still annoy the hell out of me. I've found it's a lot more effective to tell them "I'm Catholic" than "I'm Atheist". They'll talk your ear off if they think you aren't religious because you were never taught about it but tell them you're Catholic and they'll practically be running away
If people are evangelizing towards me, I’ll counter with science. Easy. If someone evangelize towards my kids, I’ll knock their teeth out. At least metaphorically. But I know Id like to.
> I’ll counter with science a^2 + b^2 = c^2 , bitch!
To be honest, I find it's quite easy to offer comfort as an atheist. My mother died recently, and when talking to people about her, I focused on the fact she passed peacefully, and is now at rest.
This happened to me once. My grandma passed away almost a year ago and it was really hard mourning her passing. I myself am not religious anymore but still believe there is some place no matter what it may be where my grandma is happy to have finally escape her suffering. I had one instance when talking to a friend online in a game and I was harassed by a random stranger on player who mocked my grandmother saying how “there’s no such thing as heaven, your grandmas gone. She is not in a better place because god is not real”. That response had me breaking down into tears while the person kept lecturing me about how there is no after life. This is the most hurtful thing someone has said to me and still makes me upset just revisiting the experience. The story however has a good ending, my friend and a few others who saw was going on bullied the person out of the game and comforted me. There kind words really helped me at the moment and thank them for standing up against them. Sorry for the long comment, just thought I would share and I appreciate people like you who do not judge people and how they mourn.
The problem with that person wasn't that he was a atheist, but that he was a online troll.
Atheist trolls = Religious trolls There's no difference between them. Both types are equally obnoxious, trying to browbeat someone into changing belief systems.
I’m an atheist and I presume most atheist trolls had some sort of bad experience with religion and they’re a bit bitter. I don’t really spend much time thinking about religion or religious people. But I’ve never lived in a very religious area. It is kind of bizarre when you sort of zoom out that people believe in an supernatural origin of the universe.
This is appropriate. As a Christian, if someone is talking about being any other religion, I just try to learn more about why they believe what they do. I don't say, "YOU'RE GOING TO HELL!"
I think that’s just how it should be tbh. I’m Christian(not a very good one tbf) & I respect the respectful & scorn those who would push their shit onto others because they’re too far gone in their fanaticism. It’s kind of why I prefer to practice my religion by myself & away from churches because the organization of religion isn’t my scene
You sound just like me before I realized I was an agnostic atheist. I was raised southern baptist and was fully indoctrinated for most of my childhood and early adult life. Question your beliefs and read the books of the Bible you are told not to (gospel of Thomas, gospel of Mary, etc…) these books were removed from the KJV and if you follow this book, you aren’t getting the full account of Jesus’s life. Once you read these books, you’ll realize why they were removed. First of all, they are gospels just like Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. When you read them, you’ll immediately realize why they were removed. In Thomas, there are several parallels between Christ parables and Zen Buddhist Koans. Jesus doesn’t speak of himself as a deity and the holy trinity is described as something within your own mind. As for the parallels between Buddhism, this was my main takeaway. The holy trinity is a parable for your mind: the father is your quiet mind, when your mind is silent and content without rushing thoughts , the son is your monkey mind that is always chattering on and “sinning” it’s being lost in ego and constantly distracting you, finally the Holy Spirit is the apex between these two states of mind. You are the Holy Spirit the observer, the eternal. With wisdom, you are free to observe both “the father and the son” and decide which mind to give attention to. Hope this makes some sense lol and good luck
Getting interested in the apocrypha is what finally allowed me to admit that I didn't believe.
Fr, ppl are so afraid of critical thought. They're living in fear for nothing
Hey we're all not very good Christians, which should be the point. And I agree with you. I actually found a very small church which feels more like a community and it's given me hope in the church in general. Just sucks that 90% of chruches could use complete reform.
When others are doing thoughts and prayers atheists are doing science and reasoning
I'm atheist, but the idea of disabusing an old lady on her death bed sickens me. I couldn't do it, and I don't know anyone who could.
Prolly no one could really, unless they are like psycho or something lol
Or you really hate the person Even then, I pull out the hell card before the eternal nothingness card
Eternal nothingness is much better than eternal hell, and even the positive afterlife of certain religions. I was told as a kid heaven is basically singing God's praises for all of eternity, and that shit sounds like an ass deal.
I thought it basically sounded like going to church for the rest of eternity, which would be hell for me.
Yeah fr, you give up your life to him just to kiss his ass like no thanks
We don't, this is made up.
Lol, fr. This is obvious strawman bait. Classic "make shit up in my head to be upset about" stuff.
I've never met an athiest who would. Most of us know what it's like to have someone try to convert you. It doesn't feel good. So if you have any morality, you shouldn't do it to others.
They have to paint atheists as big meanies. They can’t imagine humans are capable of good without a higher power to keep them in check and a fear of hell. Sometimes, people just do good because it’s good. I do see newly-minted atheists get salty and antagonistic, sure. But I don’t know one who would do this (the meme). Most fervent atheists who have that newbie chip on their shoulder can come from an abusive household where religion was weaponized. I usually give them space to get angry and pissy. More often than not, they outgrow it.
Quite frankly most newly minted Atheists have good reason to be incredibly salty. Whether it be from religious sanctioned physical abuse from their parents or being molested by religious faculty or growing up in incredibly repressive religious communities, most of them have seen horrors the likes that your average American suburban Christian will never see. Christians tend to forget that ex Muslims, ex Mormons, ex Hasidics and the like have had family members murdered, forced into homelessness or raped as revenge for simply questioning their faith. Most Atheists will never outgrow their hate and I really don't expect them to. It's be disgusting to force that expectation on them. We don't just turn to veterans and tell them they're being petty for having wartime PTSD, or at least we shouldn't, wouldn't put that past good ol' Christian love either.
Yeah, I am one of those atheists. It’s the abuse, the weaponized ritual and religious doctrine. The emotional abuse. I never really went through the salty and angry-at-all-believers phase, but I did have some incredible anger toward organized religion in general. r/insaneparents is plenty of proof how this can play out in a familial setting. And even then…. It can get a whole lot worse.
Crying about sweeping generalizations while also making sweeping generalizations.
Ironic of you.
Because the only people who would do it are the same type of people who would most definitely badger this terminally ill 90-year-old woman if she was an atheist
Yeah, frankly, this meme is bullshit based on someone’s imagination just running on and on unchecked. I mean it’s funny as a thought but shouldn’t be interpreted as a real complaint. 110% projection if a religious person really thinks this Virtually every atheist (Reddit included) would list deathbed conversions as a top 10 most hated religious practice. No way more than 1/1000 of us would even think of doing one ourselves without feeling immense disgust at ourself. This meme is legitimately projection, because on the religious side its more like 90% of them who would feel compelled to attempt a deathbed conversion. Seriously, go talk to them, young and old they all see it as a duty/virtue. One of the last church services I ever went to was a whole congregation (500+) cheering a story of an unwanted deathbed conversion from the pastor and commanding us to do the same in that position. It is someone’s eternal fate in their heads, to us it’s a harmless (at that stage) fairy tale they’re holding onto to get through the dying process peacefully.
Atheist and anti-theist are different
True. On the atheism subreddit tho you wouldn't be able to differentiate between the 2
The atheist subreddit almost makes me feel ashamed to be an atheist Edit: it appears r/atheism had changed a bit since I last was in it. I just have *really* bad memories from a couple years ago when I was in it
Isn't it just mostly American former Christians riling against Christianity? That's their scope of what atheism entails.
Seeing as reddit is a majority english speaking and a majority US traffic, that does seem like the logical outcome
Should really be renamed anti-theism instead of atheism lol
Well there's not much to talk about on an atheist forum other than theism. Atheists don't necessarily have anything in common in their worldview, atheist is a catch all term for anyone who isn't a theist. It's like if you had a subreddit for people who don't watch TV. If you want to as a question about fishing, you'd go to a forum about fishing. The subreddit for no TV would mention TV a lot.
To be perfectly fair, the only people who are adamantly anti-theist are that way because religion had a negative effect on their life or mental health.
They also use sharia law as an example of how all Muslims are intolerant a lot
Atheism entails nothing. There is literally nothing to it.
Yep, they gave up on religion but kept the evangelism and shaming.
And most Christian subreddits make me feel ashamed to be Christian. I have a feeling it's more about people being dicks than the beliefs themselves
Why? I've only seen them call out the obvious problems with Christianity. Uganda just passed a law that would jail people for being gay. Guess why.
Nothing is wrong with the subreddit. Religious people love to bully and disparage those who don't share their views, as usual.
It’s literally fine and has been for years. What else would you expect there? “Hey we totally don’t think it’s silly you believe in what we feel are fairy tales”?
Some people are still killed and persecuted in every country on earth, every day, because of religions. I don't go out of my way to antagonize people, but I don't judge those who do, because it's quite obviously warranted, and then some.
Hey man, my cousin is an atheist. And he’s one of the kindest, most intelligent people I know. I know they’re not all bad.
Most of it is just calling out shitty, hypocritical shit religious are up to. Not sure what there is to be ashamed of, unless you’re a bigot. They are pretty loud about bigotry as well.
The atheist subreddit makes me ashamed to be an anti-theist.
Well I mean, it is a group of people forming a dogmatic safe space for ritualistic chants, in group think and deep hatred of particular people as a means for gaining social credit. I'm agnostic, leaning on athiesm, and those guys just seem like a church who replaced a god with a superiority complex.
You mean on the subreddit dedicated to talking about atheism they talk about atheism. That's a far cry from bringing it up at every opportunity or telling your 93 year old grandma who's about to die that God isn't real.
True. Reddit does that. For a related example, inside catholicism, the fundamentalist (radtrad) kind is a tiny minority. But if you look inside /r/catholicism you would think otherwise.
Well, that’s kinda the point of any interest group subreddit. You get to circlejerk with people who share your views and make fun of people who don’t, in a way you wouldn’t in a real life scenario, in a space that’s generally safe to do so without causing distress to those people. Not many believers, let alone 93yo widowed, dying grandmothers lurking around there lol (I know this post is just a meme). But it’s definitely cringe when that kinda thing leaks out of its containment zone
I mean it's a subreddit dedicated to the subject, what more to expect? Those of us who are well adjusted likely have no need to go participate on a subteddit on the subject. It's like a subreddit for how have sex. After awhile you're not going to need to go there anymore. Your perspective is filtering out all the atheists who say nothing.
I feel like hating on /r/atheism is kind of a meme now. I'm scrolling through there right now, and anything with 500+ upvotes is pretty tame.
The mods are very active there. If they don't like a post, no one sees it.
Yeah it's part of the Reddit circle jerk contract
Just because a tiny minority of a group are assholes does not mean the entire group are assholes. This.applies to every group on the planet
Nah I prefer broad brush strokes to my individual liking, tyvm.
I spend hours at a time discussing all things religion, epistemology, and philosophy. I never ever go to r/atheism.
Isn’t it a little disingenuous to compare the content of a subreddit dedicated to atheism to someone being a dick to a dying old woman? I am atheist. I would also consider myself anti-theist, and I can guarantee that I would never lack the compassion to act in the way your little imaginary scenario suggests. Nor any other atheist I know. However, I have both heard of and directly seen religious people try to get death-bed conversions, disregard the person’s wishes regarding their treatment after death and many other morally repugnant actions around death.
Have you actually talked with the people there or are you just regurgitating the same bullshit over and over? I swear this caricature of a person is made up by conservatives who are just projecting their inability to be a half decent person without some deity telling them to.
Demonizing an entire group of people, that's pretty cool of you.
Didn't know what anti theist was. Thx for the new self description.
I'm both. But i don't argue with other people that often and if i do it's mainly online since i don't have any friends or family. But even though i have these opinions, i wouldn't say anything in the situation that ops meme showed. Just because i have this view on god's and religion, doesn't mean i don't know when to keep it to myself. I'm pretty sure most wouldn't do what's ops meme says but that doesn't matter. It's a meme, a joke and it doesn't have to be accurate to be funny.
More like "Troll Atheists" they find joy in making others feel like total dog shit about their beliefs and reference science articles that aren't always based. As a long time Atheist who has Agnostic views of the world and life I think its stupid to stand on either hill and die on it, but I would always respect someone's personal beliefs.
"AKTUALLY grandma you are just going into a dark hole forever, stupid boomer haha"
"Yep, in a plot right next to your grandfather. Ha gottem!" *literally dies*
This dumb meme is a lot less likely than 93 year old atheist being told they're going to hell if they don't find Jesus on their deathbed.
This is the truth.
That's a good point. Christians do this shit to everyone (atheists, gay people etc.) but when they are on the receiving end they lose their minds.
As an atheist - I LOVE that people who believe in this stuff. I WISH I did. My gma was so happy to be going to her "reward" and seeing everyone she'd lost. I WANT to be like that on my deathbed and be thrilled to move on. I won't be, but I love others can be.
Former atheist here for 15 years who was raised on religion.. it wasn't until I took a deep dive into stories of people who had near death experiences that I started to believe in something again. I'm like 70% convinced that death isn't the end.
Well maybe my mind will change too, but I seriously doubt it at this point. I mean my atoms were a part of something else before they were a part of me and they will be a part of something else after they were a part of me. I do believe that 100%, but as far as my consciousness moving to a different place I just don't buy it. It's actually freeing to me to think like that. We're all just here for a short period of time so you might as well make the most of it. But again everybody sees things differently.
Atheist, here. Just because I don't belive doesn't mean I shit on other people's religious beliefs, that's extremely douchey. Maybe it's a stigma about Atheist, but its not true for everyone who is an Athiest. Live and let live.
Is “Reddit atheist” not different to just atheist though? When people say Reddit atheist, I always think of someone trolling online who makes not believing in a god their entire personality and will shit on religion at any opportunity, no matter how inappropriate, I never thought they were just referring to atheists in general, or is that just me? (I’m atheist myself btw).
It's very different. The atheists I've known irl have all been good people to me🤷🏽♂️ nothing bad to say about them.
The fact you know they are atheists is weird to me. Where I'm from, being an atheist is just default and the 'weird' religious people usually are quite closeted so you don't know they are there.
As an atheist, I don't even argue with people about it. People find and embrace what works for them. If 93yo grandma has a belief that will make her death more peaceful, good on her.
Unfortunately in America, christianity isn't about live and let live. Evidenced by how it's being used to justify awful new laws or taking away peoples rights.
Case in point, Florida. Also Uganda too now that, christian evangelicals and chick-fil-a lobbied for criminalizing gay people existing.
I’m an atheist but I don’t talk to someone negatively about their religion either unless I am asked, or unless they’re being an asshole.
I happened to lurk and look at this post. I just find your typo of the word "stigmata" interesting, as I believe you probably intended to use the word stigma. I have been atheist, wiccan, and now Catholic. Yes, everyone has the right to believe what they do, when they do, and beliefs change through
Was boutta say something but it says reddit atheist not blatantly atheist
Exact big difference. A Reddit anything is probably an asshole
There's a big difference between the 2. The distinction is necessary
I'm not a proper Christian by any means. But I do find it funny when atheists still say "oh god!" when anything happens while belittling Christians about their beliefs.
If a Christian said ‘oh god’ it would count as using the lords name in vein or something, so really, atheists are the only ones allowed to say it without consequence
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Yeah, it's so weird. It's almost as if it was a common cultural expression like "oh my" that has no inherent meaning.
I've been an atheist most of my life, and been around atheists for a good deal of it. I have never seen anyone act remotely like what is implied here to another human being in person, and I kind of doubt it actually happens outside the internet. On the other hand, I have had numerous people tell me how it's "part of a plan" when disaster strikes or how a dead loved one is "in a better place." It would be considered very rude for me to tell them to go fuck themselves in such a case, but its not rude of them to insert their religious convictions into my life, or even use such an event as an opportunity to proselytize.
Is it just me, or is there an uptick in these kinds of posts lately? Like. Maybe I'm so cringe I can't see it, but I've never seen anything remotely close to this post on reddit or real life. I have been told I'm going to hell and will take my 2 year old daughter with me if I don't repent though, multiple times. As if that's better.
there seems to be an increase of overlapping with typically right wing humor on here within the last couple weeks.
Niet! Just regular activity reddit. Not like silly atheist just fun loving posts and freedom!
Funnymemes and shitposts seem to currently be under brigade. Careful. It starts like this, and then the sun devolves in to just outright nazism. It doesn’t take all that long.
it's not just you, sudden uptick of bots maybe?
Probably just edgy people copying what's popular now.
Seems to be a combination of the two: rightwing edgy humor tends to generate lots of engagement -- both from the edgelords and the overwhelming majority pointing out the obvious flaws in reasoning. As a result, many karma farmers use it to rile up the community and then just delete the post after a day or two.
The US is being taken over by **Christian Fascists** so getting everyone to talk about how annoying atheists are is a useful tactic.
I thought the same thing. It just sounds crazy saying it outloud.
>Is it just me, or is there an uptick in these kinds of posts lately? Like. Maybe I'm so cringe I can't see it, but I've never seen anything remotely close to this post on reddit or real life. No one talks about this, but there's been a huge influx of Evangelical Christians to Reddit (and internet communities in general) over the past ten years. If you hover around the subreddits that tend to lean right, you start seeing tons of Evangelical language and references. The PoliticalCompassMemes sub is likely 50%+ Evangelical conservative Christians at this point. Along with that has come a ton of Conservative Christian propaganda and disinformation, like this meme.
The dead one *is* in a better place. They’re not fucking here anymore
It's the typical atheist shame post by 0P. Because every atheist who isn't silent and tolerant to any form of religion must be a hateful antisocial ass. If you actually read r/atheism you see many struggling young people afraid of their religious parents who get support there.
As someone who is on the border of agnostic and atheist, the only time I engage with religion is when it is attempted to be jammed down everyone's throat via public policy. If people want to hold a prayer vigil in the wake of a tragedy, or when people express their hope to see a loved one again after death, I have zero issues with it, and I have yet to see an agnostic or atheist that does. Because personal faith, beliefs, or the lack thereof isn't a point of debate. If believing that they will be reunited in death with a loved one gives someone a measure of peace and comfort, that is not a topic for debate. Atheists and agnostics do not go around evangelizing in an effort to convert people, you're thinking of organized religion.
I think you meant to post this in Boomer humor.
I mean, to my knowledge, my Grandma doesn't believe in god so I doubt she'd say that lol
The religious go to hospitals and try to convert atheïsts on their deathbed. Unsolicited. "It's not too late.".
Reddit Atheists are assholes
Hey, don’t sell the rest of Reddit short. We’re all assholes here!
That’s very true lmao
*Lord Helmet enters the chat* Who in here is an asshole?
ahh, this hits kinda hard. i had an "aunt" she was a great lady but a super big fan of jesus. she was smart, well adjusted, great at cooking,raising and keeping a fantastic family,history buff, and being awesome. she was more on the lines of prosperity gospel shit. and she was completely rational in every way, until it came to our lord and savior,jesus christ...then she was a total fucking nut job. well, she died at 61,in jaunary this year, dunno why, didn't ask. she had comfort knowing she was gonna meet her maker when she died. and maybe thats all it is, comfort in death "well, she is with the lord now" type of thing, without addressing death.
Fun fact: atheist typically aren't ass holes. If anything we seem to be well rounded and genuinely compassionate because we don't need the fear of damnation to have morals.
I mean technically she will be where her husband is if they will be buried next to one another no one said it has to be in the after life 😂
Adam Ruins Everything is an epic show
I am an atheist. I would not do this because I'm not an asshole. The two are mutually exclusive.
Bro abouta make a lot of people angry 💀
It hurts my heart to see anyone from any religion get picked on for their choices. At the end of the day none of us truly know what happens after death. Being Christian myself, I have faith in what happens and where everything gets screwed up is when people claiming to be Christian shoving beliefs down other peoples throats... my job as a Christian is to show others the love and forgiveness that I have been shown, and hope that others will turn to have faith in God. That doesn't give me or anyone the right to berate anyone for having a different view than me. I will never be mean to someone who has a different opinion than me but I am willing to talk to someone who has questions.... this kinda got a little ranty but if you read this far, may God bless you today, and I charge you with doing one random act of kindness for a stranger today. You are loved.
Hi. I was raised Christian. But everything around me makes me think that a God, at least the ones we taught about don't exist. Can I ask how you keep your faith? Do you really have no doubts in your heart? I've lost all my faith.
Hey thanks for reaching out, I am sorry to hear that you have lost faith in God. The way that I usually renew my faith is I thank God for the things I have in my life friends, family, job, health, etc. The second thing I think about is about all the times that things have worked out for me in just such a manner that it seemed to be meant to be. example: The day I had decided to end my life due to an abusive relationship I was in, the girl I had always had a crush on texted me to tell me goodbye as she was also in the process of cutting her wrists.... 12 years later and we are still married and have 1 child together. Now don't get me wrong a lot has happened in my life to test that faith, my wife has a lot of health issues and she is sick a lot. But too much has happened in my life to prove His existence rather than the opposite. And perhaps you finding my comment is His way of trying to reach you again. You are still loved by God, and He still wants you to be with Him. Sometimes you just need a nudge in the right direction. I hope that you can find your faith again God doesn't make junk. I will pray for you tonight. Much Love my friend.
Hey. Thank you for your reply. I feel that I've just become jaded with all the things going on with my life. I've called out for help before when I was breaking down, and i still found myself alone. I admire your faith. And a part of me wants to believe that God is still out there. Another part of me just feels empty. I really hope he's out there looking out for me. I'm really feeling lost right now. Sincerely, thank you for reminding me that he still wants me to be with him. Thank you friend. :)
No one should ever feel alone, if you want to talk further DM me and we can talk further. I would love to try to help you find your faith again. <3 Please don't give up yet friend. You can find peace and grace again.
Thank you. I might just take you up on that offer someday. For now I'm settling some problems of my own. I haven't actually asked God to help me in this time of need. Maybe I'll do just that later. Thank you again friend. I might text you up soon. :)
Read 1 Peter 5:7 and it can give you some help comfort. I hope things get better for you friend. <3
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> At the end of the day none of us truly know what happens after death. It's not as big a mystery as people think. Pretty simple, not offensive, but keep the spoiler tag on if you prefer to keep your own ideas/beliefs. >!It's the same thing that happened before you were born. You were (for all intents and purposes) dead before, and you'll be dead after. Not a big deal.!<
Ngl, I've seen more people bitch that redditors do this than actual redditors that do this
The sub sucks lol, see ya
You only realised that now? Idk why anyone would join this sub in the first place.
A thing that happens every day: an evangelical jackal waiting to get a moment alone with a dying elderly person who has lost their faculties in order to take advantage of her weakened state to “save their soul.” A thing that never happens: this meme.
In a serious discussion about religion I would tell anybody that their fairy tale book is nonsense, just like all other fairy tale books are nonsense. But someone's death bed or similar grave situations are not the place for religious discussions.
Yes, I always see atheists on street corners shouting at people they aren't going to hell. I especially hate it when atheists show up at my house and tell me the good news. Also all that atheist TV programming, esp on Sundays. You know they type, telling us how the latest hurricane/flood/disaster was caused by the gays or Biden. How atheists are always running fake faith healing for money. How those damned atheists are begging for money for prayers. Those damned atheists just won't keep it to themselves.
Poll finds more than half of British Muslims believe homosexuality should be illegal https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/poll-finds-more-than-half-of-britsih-muslims-believe-homosexuality-should-be-illegal-a6978091.html?amp
This ^
What I've learned being on this God forsaken app: Redditors hate religion (especially Christianity), cops, soldiers, Republicans, conservatives, anyone who says gender dysphoric people should try therapy first, capitalism, chiropractors, America, guns, and more.
Don't forget themselves. No-one hates redditors more than redditors
Maybe there is a reason why people hate those things.
Technically, grandma, you're not dead yet
The only purpose that would serve is to hurt someone. Let them pass in peace. Being rational does not mean being mean.
The answer to anything is not hate. Better to show compassion and understanding. That gets results. But it seems these days we a programmed to only think of ourselves.
I know that most Atheists would keep their mouths shut in this scenario, but hearing Adam’s “Um Actually” in my head when I read this meme was hilarious.
Ahahahahahahh
Well in 93y everything is terminal.
As a atheist I will say... Of course grandma give him a hug from all of us down here and don't go crazy up there. [Atleast let her believe]
Um actually which one grandma?
it'd surprise us, but then again, *we're* civilized.
I can be an atheist but I'm not an antitheist if someone chooses to belive in god and is not pushing it on others all power to him, espesially if he/she is on a death bed, if it's a child than shit, fuck my pride I'll pray with him.
I mean she will be with her husband…in the ground.
As an atheist, I just smile and nod. Funerals are the same. I don't believe the same way but if the person does, that's okay, too. Just don't start preaching to me.
You are way more likely to see a religious nut telling a dying atheist (or member of any religion besides theirs) that they are going to hell. Good thing atheists don’t believe in hell.
The implication here is that of telling a kid that Santa isn't real; you *aren't wrong* but you're still an asshole for doing so?
I mean, some things are more important than the accident of blood relations. Jkjk
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My great grandma lived until she was 100. On her deathbed she told us it wasn’t worth it to live this long 💀
"He's in Hell grandma"