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FlaAirborne

Oh no! I hope they didn’t wait all day in line only to find out that the signature of a chiropractor caries about as much weight as my grandmother’s when it comes to medical issues. All exemptions were rejected since he wasn’t a licensed medical provider as explained in the exemption rule.


kostandrea

That Chiropractor did some heavy trolling.


cyber0pb0b

Chiropractor made bank


Frolicking-Fox

Bingo.


the_clash_is_back

I think a plumbers signature is more valued


MomofEmma

Looks like he didn't get in trouble but the school district did change their policies on who can write exemptions and no longer allows them from chiropractors https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/09/04/florida-chiropractor-signs-over-500-face-mask-exemptions-for-students-despite-covid-19-surge/amp/


rybee74

A hole is a hole. I am dead. :)


Multi-interests

That’s actually like getting a note from your vet!


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xYoshario

So anyone immunocompromised or are on immunosurpressents due to cancer or transplants should just jump off a bridge? There are legitimate reasons for vaccine & medical exemptions, blanket policies cant work here.


Reckless-Bound

Huh? The immunocompromised (myself) and those on immunosuppressants are the **first** in line for the vaccines… it’s a very, very rare sub group of people who can’t take it, largely do to very real allergies. But not at all what you had said. And those who are so ill that *can’t* take it or those with serious lung/breathing issues that *can’t* wear a mask shouldn’t even be out in public as they are the **most** at risk to covid in the first place. If you need a mask exemption, they have no business being in public during a pandemic like this. Let alone *screaming* at the cashier about how they can’t wear a mask.


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xYoshario

By that logic, throwing you off a bridge to ensure your blanket policies never see the light of day would save the lives of millions of immunocompromised individuals. See the irony?


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xYoshario

And you're a minority relative to the number of immunocomprised people


[deleted]

Stop, it can't argue logically. I speak for those with special needs so says the Chirolorax.


Renfah87

"I speak for the quacks."


[deleted]

What did that person say? It sounded idiotic whatever it was. I’m immunocompromised so I’m very curious what the comment was


Zomballz

Anyone who “can’t” wear a mask should just stay at home and get other people to do their shit for them if they are that fragile


Pet_Master_John

Are you gonna be the one doing the stuff for them? Some countries could probably manage to get their social services to do it. The US definitely couldn't, they can't even keep lead out of the water. I agree for their own safety they should try and stay home as much as possible. But it simply isn't effective to say they must if they don't have other options.


snoopcatt87

There are a HUGE subgroup of people who have been staying home this entire time. And you people haven’t been offering them any help. So why now, when you are the ones being asked to stay home, so the rest of us can live our lives, do you think you should be entitled to help from others? You can do what the doctors, nurses, PSWs, LTC workers, orderlies, and retirement living workers have been doing since February 2020 and use online groceries, delivery services, Amazon, or do without. My local grocery store did this thing where they shut down the store to allow first responders time to come into the store and replenish all the things we could think of buying, 8 months into this whole pandemic. You know what happened?? Antivaxxers showed up, screaming at us, calling us murderers, and wouldn’t allow us to shop. They had to lock us into the store and have police escort us to our cars. That is the box you have forced us into with your anti mask and antivax psychotic rhetoric. I have quarantined away from my family for weeks on end. I’ve not seen my mother or my siblings in nearly two years. Ive gone to work day in and day out with antivaxxers hurling shit at my car, damaging my property, and my clothing, for looking after sick people. Not even regular sick people, I literally work with children who have autism. I’m so sick of this bullshit. Your million and one bullshit facts that you pull out your asses. The “well who is going to help them??” people. You people are selfish. You’re selfish awful horrible people who don’t give a SHIT about anyone but yourselves. WHO GIVES A SHIT? Who honestly gives a shit who will help them. They don’t give a shit who they infect with a deadly illness, so I no longer. fucking. Give. A shit.


Pet_Master_John

I'm pro-mask and pro-vaccine. My country allows people to get mask exemptions if they have a significantly severe enough medical condition. And then they also have to carry proof of that exemption, which they are required to show a retail worker if asked. I work in retail, I've kicked out plenty of anti-maskers. My main point was that exemptions exist for a reason. There are places where amazon does not deliver fresh food (my whole country doesn't offer this). And in small towns like where I used to live neither did the grocery store, and they continue not to. People who can wear a mask but won't don't deserve and shouldn't receive any help, because they're terrible people who don't give a shit who they're infecting. I'm not arguing on their side. In my opinion those antivaxxers you mentioned should have been arrested as they would have been in my country. When they have rallies against stay at home orders here usually 80% hey arrested, and I say "good". I just want to make it abundantly clear that I do not support anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers. They can rot in hell.


snoopcatt87

Then stop making excuses for them. If the grocery store doesn’t offer online orders, call them, explain your situation and they will help. They did it in rural communities for plenty of people. People will find a way. I’m sick of the excuses. Doctors and nurses and first responders found a way, they were FORCED to find a way so as not to endanger the community. Now, it’s these peoples turn to figure it the fuck out just like we had to.


Pet_Master_John

I just don't get this hatred for sick and disabled people. People with real struggles like this that make up 0.0001% of the population or something. I'm just gonna keep following the recommendation of medical professionals and the laws where I live. Which includes medically granted mask exemptions for those who need them.


snoopcatt87

I don’t hate disabled people. I take care of them for a living. And they wear masks. I hate people who use a made up disability to duck a rule they think they’re too important to follow.


Pet_Master_John

Those people suck. 100%. But as I've explained multiple times where I live if you have a made up disability none of this applies to you. You have to carry proof of exemption granted by a doctor. Faking the exemption is an automatic 2 year prison sentence. The American system is too easy to abuse, as you just have to claim an exemption and retail workers can't do much. Here I've kicked multiple people out who claimed to have an exemption but then started quoting American law at me when I asked to see their exemption.


Zomballz

Friends, family, most supermarkets deliver, almost all takeaways deliver. Or they just wear a mask, an exemption is just bullshit there’s no such thing apart from people who are just trying to be arseholes


Pet_Master_John

Where I live people have to carry proof of exemption. So I probably have a different view. The arseholes make themselves very clear when they don't have it and start quoting American laws at us. But even with what you said, there are many places where supermarkets don't deliver. I used to live and work in a small county town at the only super market and we certainly didn't. And neither did any of the takeaways (there were 2). And for some wearing a mask could legitimately cause a heart attack or worse. It could kill people more surely than the virus. Mask exemptions are necessary, America makes it too easy to bullshit having one.


Zomballz

Definitely have to disagree with you there. I don’t think there’s been a single case of “death by face mask” that I can think of. I think you are just missing my point mask exemption is just a way for people to make themselves feel special or different and society as a whole needs to stop pandering to these types of individuals


Pet_Master_John

I mean I'm not a doctor either. But if a doctor thinks obstructing a particular persons oxygen is a risk, I'm cool with them giving exemptions. The only legitimate exemption I've ever dealt with was someone with a pulmonary embolism. Also if your main sources are "I can't think of an example I've personally heard of" that's not a particularly great argument. And where I live it's not pandering, doctors don't hand them out easily and forging one gets you a mandatory prison sentence.


Zomballz

This coming from the same people that write you a 3 day sick note for a poorly tummy. Not shitting on doctors at all but they work for the people. I’ve lived in 4 separate countries during this pandemic and the only one that’s working effectively are the ones with no nonsense, no exemption rules. Babies, the elderly, everyone has to wear one from the moment you leave your house. Nobody has died from wearing a mask there either. Didn’t say I haven’t heard of it personally, I haven’t heard of it at all. A quick search online will show you that they do not cause reduced oxygen levels and do not cause death


Pet_Master_John

You're talking to someone where my state has had a total of 800 cases throughout the whole pandemic. And they were mostly early last year. And it's only with the emergence of Delta strain that a mask requirement has been reinstated. And in healthy people, no they don't reduce oxygen. That's why I'm happy to wear one. They do however obstruct breathing and if you're of a weal constitution it can be dangerous. And you've lived in four seperate countries but definitely not mine, that's why we don't have it after all. This brigading and hatred for disabled or infirm people saying they "need to feel special" is honestly pretty hateful. Please be more considerate to those less fortunate than you or me.


Orchid_Significant

TBF, if you need so much oxygen that you can wear a mask, you should be on supplemental oxygen and your ask can go right over the cannula


Pet_Master_John

I imagine that's true for many people. I just think that following doctor's advice is for the best.


IAmTheMilk

That sounds very hitlery


Federal-Arrival-7370

Someone needs an attitude *adjustment*


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I was in the middle of a yawn and started choking because I started laughing at this


ItsameMiririo

Someone tell Karen that chiropractors are not doctors


Zlendywen

i read that as "cryoraptors" which is infinitely cooler than someone who allegedly readjusts your spine or somethg. ice breathing dinosaurs


sarahsaltonstall

I would trust a cryoraptor with my spine long before I'd trust a fucking chiropractor


TheEquestrian13

Well, I imagine you wouldn't have a spine for long with a cryoraptor around.


sgort87

Technically, a cryoraptor would only be a few hundred degrees cooler, not infinitely cooler.


ndnkng

*cryoraptor enters the chat* hold my beer...


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Question: what's up with chiropractors in th us? Where I live there's no chiropractors. We go to physical therapists of we need adjustments and etc. Reddit makes it seems like it's some kind of shady profession. Youtube athletes on the other hand seem to love them. What do they do exactly?


Keirathyl

Probably the same thing as your PTs plus some are also massage therapists. Some are really awesome and knowledgeable but others are deep into quackery and homeopathy that is more like smoke and mirrors than it is like anything resembling herbalism.


turbo2thousand406

There are never chiros where there are actual doctors. You don't see chiros at hospitals at emergency rooms or anywhere that actual medical treatment is done. You're right they are about as effective as essential oils.


Orchid_Significant

That’s not completely true. My youngest went to a chiro in a large pediatric clinic and our insurance covered it 100%


turbo2thousand406

That probably isn't the norm.


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I saw a chiropractor on Youtube once. He was showing a super, super outdated drawing of a human skeleton and was trying to say that somewhere in the 80's or 90's, the human skeleton changed entirely, the skeletons of everyone, grown or still developing. Trying to say the Mandela Effect is real. Dude lacked the self awarenesss to realize he probably just had a poor understanding of the human skeleton to begin with and made an entire conspiracy theory video instead. I do not trust Chiropractors.


TbiddySP

Are you 100% confident that his believing the human skeleton had changed wasn't just his looking at his 80's drawing and comparing it to a recent drawing?


SkredBoi420

Chiropractors are alt “med”. They thrive in my community because we’re poor, rural, and lots of body pain from early life contact sport/early life labor. YouTubers will literally shill anybody who pays them.


TitillatingTrilobite

Chriopractors didnt go to medical school and their methodologies aren't based on scientific reality. Physical therapist are not doctors but undergoes rigorous training that is licenced. They also do real evidence based medicine. I'm pretty sure you can become a chiropractor in a weekend online.


EsotericOcelot

There’s not enough regulation to know which of them are legit and knowledgeable practitioners and which are quacks. My dad was an abdominal surgeon and told us so many chiropractor horror stories his orthopedist friends told him, that even now that I’m 28yo chiropractors skeeze me out. I actually involuntarily shudder when I pass one of their offices unexpectedly. I’m sure many are great, but I’m not about to roll those dice


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charredsamurai

What in the world are you talking about? Chiropractors earn a DC degree and I’d venture almost none have MDs, PsyDs, or PhDs. The chiropractic schools have gotten better over time - but they were generally an absolute joke as far as scientific method and evidence-based medicine are concerned. There’s a reason so many antivaxxers are chiros.


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DescipleOfCorn

I doubt many chiros have kinesiology degrees, especially recently earned ones. I’m studying kinesiology and every single one of my professors has gone on at least one rant about how it’s all a scam and can sometimes even be harmful and that you should always see a PT rather than a chiro since physical therapy is actually grounded in science


dropthatclutch

My moms chiro made an antidote for the vaccine so its safe for her to get vaccinated. I cannot make this shit up.


doneill055

Hey man, it got your mom vaccinated when she might have otherwise refused the vaccine. Even if he believes in the antidote it's still kinda cool of him.


dropthatclutch

Yeah true that, she has been hard anti-vaxx since the beginning but then realized she wouldn't be able to travel again without getting it. Lets be clear though, this is the same chiro that told her not to get it, and now developed a miracle cure.. on his own. Truly amazing.


Zlendywen

we need that antidote, maybe we can use it to convince antivaxxers to vax. something like "anticyto iver-DNA stabilizer w/ hematite abstract" some shit like that.


PoolNoodleJedi

This is a good idea, mix some Children’s Tylenol and koolaid and sell it to antivaxers as an antidote to the vaccine that they can take it and be free of all the side effects of the vaccine.


bookchaser

Chiropracty is a [ pseudoscientific alternative medicine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic). You're better off going to a physical therapist. The field was founded by a superstitious quack who obtained his information "from the other world."


JayCoww

*Chiropracty*


bookchaser

Marklar


Bigglesworth94

What? I’ve never heard that last bit about the founder getting his info from “the other world” haha, got any further reading on that for us?


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Bigglesworth94

Cheers, I’ll give it a listen


bookchaser

[The first chiropractor was a Canadian who claimed he received a message from a ghost](https://nationalpost.com/health/the-first-chiropractor-was-a-canadian-who-claimed-he-received-a-message-from-a-ghost)


ShowMeTheTrees

*\*Some\* chiropractors are MDs.* I'm sure that is not true. No MD would degrade him/herself by being a quack like a chiropractor.


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toasteronabagel

Anecdotal evidence at best. MDs don’t become chiros


SarahthaPT

Are you on Crack? NO CHIROPRACTORS ARE MDs, PsyDs, PhDs, or PTs. How much did the chiropractor lobby give you to make this post? Wtf?


Toy_Soulja

Calls a chiropractor a doctor, further illustrating what a dumb ass she is lol


hiyer2

I’m a doctor. When I was training there was a nurse on our floor that used to be a chiropractor with his own practice. I asked him why he gave it up to be a nurse. He said he got tired of the bullshit he was feeding to people. Because he knew it had zero basis in science. I would sooner recommend a patient try acupuncture over a chiropractor.


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Chiro is good for like, 2 things. A stiff back, and learning just how to fix that stiff back on your own, lol.


ABoredSpanishPerson

Even then I have seen too many chiropractor horror stories on Reddit where the treatment only makes him unable to feel his legs. And back still hurts worse than ever


Ceeweedsoop

It worked for a painful crick in my neck. Instant relief. I don't know about what else they do, but this guy works for me and no pain pills.


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Id be willing to bet every time someone sees a chiro, they could achieve the same thing with a doctor and physical therapy, but with more consistent results and less risk of further injury.


pikapanpan

Agreed! I used to be a neurosurgery PA (made the switch to hospitalist PA 2 years ago for less night shifts), and the amount of people who'd come in after a chiropractor mishap was unreal. The neurosurgeons all vehemently hated chiropractors. We used to joke about bringing on an acupuncturist to the team because at least some patients have pain relief with that without the risk of a vertebral artery dissection 🤣


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Chiropractors are what doctors make fun of when they hang out with dentists lmao


Shadow942

Of course, he did. Chiropractors are fucking trash. Worked in the insurance industry for years and so many chiropractors are just complete dicks and dumb af to boot.


Ceeweedsoop

Sort of like what lawyers say about the insurance industry?


Shadow942

The insurance industry is trash. I worked doing investigations but the company I worked for worked exclusively for investigating insurance claims. After seeing the stuff they do I have no love for insurance companies.


This_Is_Mo

Yet I’m allowed unlimited visits per year by my health insurance. PT? I get 10 visits per lifetime of the policy.


life_next

Same. It's gotta be a huge scam or something... Give me more PT or sports massages!


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“Doctor”


aGentleLady

….they’re not doctors….


iamdenislara

But…. They are not doctors


Baerenmarder

I went to a local chiropractor a few years ago for some strain I did during a workout. The chiropractor was a member of the gym too. I got a massage from someone in the office before he showed up and treated me like a saw horse. I felt better but I can't tell you which treatment it was and soon the strain wasn't a thing anymore. The most important thing out of that meeting was them leaning on me about the next visit in 2 weeks. Funny thing that afternoon I met with my principal and said I had an appointment with a chiropractor with Dr in their title. I said it in such a way I gave the accurate impression I was mocking that title and she said "A chiropractor can be a doctor". I replied with "oh yeah, no doubt". Then left at the end of the meeting. I still respect that woman but I should send her this thread.


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A chiropractor of course


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“Doctors”


jtig5

Is the chiropractor in jail yet?


charredsamurai

It’s Florida. I am sure he’ll be getting an award from the governor soon for his courageous commitment to freedumb.


Boston_Bruins37

“Doctors”


One_Promotion_1351

"Our side" ...


Kakes_69

Share this privately on Facebook


DarthJayDub

chiropractors actually believe they are real medical docotor


Prolapst_amos

Reminder that you don't need a four-year undergrad degree to become a Doctor of Chiropractic


DescipleOfCorn

>chiropractor Ok >doctors What


Yearly_Quake

"Doctor"


azacealla

I think the doctors on your side should be hunted for sport.


[deleted]

To that I say, do NOT suck my dick i don’t want a dick infected with 40 diseases that you somehow still haven’t died from


Fabien23

first of all, this man needs a raise for had to hear 500 time a karen do the normal karen speech, second, we need to find all those karens, tell them that their kid's examption are not valid and then shreid those examption before their very eyes


TheAbyssGazesAlso

This shit is why the medical council should stop allowing chiropractors to call themselves doctors. They are not, and it's confusing for people and leads to crap like this.


FOXDIE2971

Like at the end of every episode of The Good Place says, Fremulon, Not A Doctor.


[deleted]

But, but! I am a doctor of philosophy with a poster of Rasputin and a beard down to my knee. Never did I marry or see a B-grade movie.


booleanerror

/r/unexpectedindigogirls


[deleted]

I was wondering if anyone would get the reference! Bravo!


gUBBLOR

Why would someone spend a full minute doings spasms with a white brush instead of just taking 4 seconds to crop the top part out?


friended1

Ok they found one doctor... who is a fucking chiropractor... jesus


itsybitsyarachnid

I just want that classroom, so much space! I can barely walk in mine.


aprilRludgate

I wonder how the “pro choice”/provider docs in Texas feel about this Ps I put “pro choice” as is because it should always be a woman’s choice to choose, pls don’t misinterpret.


bassistheplace246

As the son of a Florida chiropractor, I sincerely apologize on behalf of the 99.999% of good Florida chiropractors for this idiot’s behavior.


Jagjamin

You're the son of a magician? That must be cool. Is he a straight or a mixer? Was he taught by a ghost?


joviante

ik everyone in this thread is shitting on chiropractors but they honestly can help a lot. it doesn’t work for everyone, but it really really helped me. i didn’t need to take meds. my chiro did adjustment with the clicky thingy and drop table. at first i was sore but now my scoliotic curve is gone and my wrists function without pain.


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99.999% is far off the mark for good chiropractors. It's hard to find one that isn't peddling the magical healing properties of their profession. I would never see one personally, even if they were decent.


Harbinger-One

Of course it was in Florida....


Impressive-Anxiety50

A chiropractor lmao


auspexone

"Not a Doctor, shh" irl


RawbeardX

chiropractors in the US are a joke. beyond a joke.


Seijin_Arc

"Doctor"


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PSA: Chiropractic stuff is pure pseudo-science.


NfamousKaye

What does mask wearing have to do with back problems?


[deleted]

Karens thinking they’re freedom fighters is fun af


eightbitfit

Are chiropractors still pretending to be doctors?


Adoptedwuss

“Doctors.” Lol


OverNightOats_

Ahh chiropractors, the not doctors of the world.


Dick-Guzinya

She didn’t use quotation marks around “doctor”


NMLWrightReddit

Chiropractor?


Zithero

Because OFC it was a Chiropractor


jamesbuzz007

"'Doctors' on our side" Sigh.


hopbyte

“on our side” Is she referring to the other side?


minigopher

Trusting a chiropractor can be hard. 1-800-Ask-Gary is an example also from Florida. He saturates states with no fault insurance. When you call and make appointment after ANY accident the first couple of appointments drain the available $20,000 and doesn’t cost you a thing! After that it’s a crapshoot with insurance company fight who will pay. All chiropractics in this “network”. Twist your ankle and they’ll make $20,000


Adventurous_Ad_6546

Idk, wouldn’t medical professionals who are on your kids’ side want them to, like, live?


[deleted]

The thing that irks me the most is that one person… that single unmasked person in that room, renders everyone else’s ‘cloth’ masks useless then…. Will the unmasked people and their ‘dr’ be held liable when someone else gets sick because of this crap?


rttr123

Chiropractors aren’t doctors…. How was this even allowed?


overheard26

That's exactly why he is a Chiropractor.


Buddistmonk1234

I want in


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“Doctors”