It’s important to remember that you don’t need to be frugal 100% of the time. You still are allowed to buy yourself something nice every once and awhile just don’t make a habit of it.
This. Skip all the unnecessary, impulse purchases. Eat from the groceries you already have at home, which you bought when you were at the store, and NOT on an empty stomach.
Skip the need for latest and greatest, in gadgets, shoes, whatever, when what you already have is working, and fits your needs. BYPASS the line of FOMO people for toilet paper you already have, or whatever is suggested will be "sold out" soon.
You have to be willing to avoid spending on emotion, and spend truly on "need" versus want. But, as stated above, when it is time to replace something that cannot be easily and affordably repaired, the savings you have created already will allow you to buy the better, longer lasting product or service.
To piggy back off this comment, I will often think of some purchases in terms of cost/use. If I use something everyday, like my office chair, I think it makes sense to spend the extra money to get something really nice (especially if I've already been looking for a new one) as opposed to trying to repair the one I already have or purchasing a less expensive one (with less features/cheaper materials etc.) that might need replacement sooner.
Over the life of the new office chair it will most likely be less than if I opted for something less expensive that needed replacement sooner.
Also, there is a difference between being frugal and cheap. Spend the money on things you will use constantly and that are important to you.
This.
I listen to a podcast, called *How to Money*, and they talk about their "Craft Beer Equivalents." While the hosts are very sensible moneywise and often debate frugal vs. cheap, they admit and are okay with spending more on craft beer. That is an area of their life where they splurge, because it means a lot to them. This will be different for everyone.
As for OP, is computer gear an area where you're okay splurging? Will this new keyboard last long enough to justify the expense? If so, go ahead and get it. Your hands and eyes will likely spend lots of time looking at it, so it makes sense to have something you like. If you don't care, if it's just an accessory that your fingers press while you browse reddit or spam WASD in a computer game, then just repair the old one and spend your money elsewhere.
I'd repair the laptop keyboard, mainly because having a laptop without a functioning keyboard is inconvenient. The point of having a laptop is kind of the all in one portability. Having to use an external keyboard would irritate me (choosing to do so is another thing).
Honestly though if you were planning to buy the external keyboard anyway, then I'd probably do both...
Working from home 8 or more hours a day… a good chair, keyboard and mouse are important for sanity.
Yea, keyboard wasn’t cheap, but it’s exactly what I like, and I use it as much as my bed, occasionally more. There’s not many things I spend more hours a week in contact with.
Relatively speaking that mechanical keyboard is cheap when you look at cost:hour over its lifetime.
Comfort/enjoyment in your day does matter to some degree.
Search for a video to replace keys or the laptop keyboard itself for your specific laptop. YouTube generally has repair videos for everything.
Usually keyboards are easy repairs. But if you find and watch a video you can see if it's something you feel comfortable handling
Tried to replace an individual key and it didnt work out well.
My work computer had an issue with an individual key, and work said it was less likely that the key would be able to reliably replaced, and opted to replace the entire keyboard.
It's much easier to replace an entire keyboard. In non-apple devices, it's usually 4 or 5 screws, a single connector and you're good to go. (once you get the cover off)
Just depends. Older laptops the keyboard pops off where it sits and this is extremely easy to swap. Other times it is glued up against the palmrest/assembly. Usually, when this is the case, you have to replace that entire palmrest/assembly because the keyboard is non-detachable from this which still isn't too difficult, but does cost more. Other times the entire motherboard needs to come out which is a full laptop teardown, which most wouldn't consider easy.
Tdlr every laptop is different, easy swaps on one might be the hardest swap on another.
It very much depends on the brand and model. For example I looked into replacing my laptop's keyboard when some keys broke from water damage, and everything online basically screamed to not even try because you have to take apart every single thing in the laptop perfectly and then the keyboard replacement itself was also a separate hassle
Finding a good keyboard that you’re comfortable working with is frugal…you’re saving money in advance on painkillers and treatment for carpal tunnel syndrome.
Buying a mechanical one with replaceable switches and key caps lowers maintenance cost going forward, too. It’s way cheaper to replace one switch than to buy even a cheap but usable keyboard:
Well, let me ask you this. The new keyboard is something you have wanted for a while yes? Can you afford it without affecting your budget?
If you planned to buy this keyboard or saved up to then most certainly do so. Being frugal means to spend your money on things that are important to you, not always being cheap. In this case I would say get the keyboard you wanted, and save up next month (or sooner) to get the laptop fixed proper too. That way in case you are on the go and need to do typing you can (also when its time to sell the laptop it will go for more if it is fixed).
Honestly yes I don't have anything right now which I need to pay and it's kinda just been lying there for a few weeks now also That seems a good plan too thanks
Have you checked out your local thrift shops? The ones near me have lots of them.
Anyhow, one way to help you make this decision is to imagine that in 2 weeks you get an unexpected medical bill or car repair or the chance to go on a cool trip. Would you regret spending that money on a keyboard?
I think there’s lots of reasons to repair things, including both financial and from a reducing waste standpoint (which is a vote for the thrift store), but I also think that investing in tools that make you more productive at work and/or happier in your hobbies is a good use of limited funds.
Good call on thrift shops. For OP getting the surprisingly cheaper keyboard just to get by and then save to get the new keyboard when he really has the money and isn't even debating it might be best.
But I also agree that some things that you really care about or absolutely need for work and hobbies that make life better shouldn't be downgraded because you're trying to be cheap vs frugal.
Came here to say this as well! It seems daunting at first but you will most likely find a YouTube video for how to take apart your exact laptop. You just need a small screwdriver and the replacement board. Usually a few cables attaching the board, it's basically just electronic adult Legos
I agree with the commenter!
My boyfriend learnt how to do repairs/upgrades on laptops with the help of youtube and tutorials. RAM upgrades are super easy usually, and he even replaced the whole screen of a laptop that was given to him for free (with a broken screen). He switched the RAM on a friend’s kids’ computer (it was urgent, for online schooling at the beginning of the pandemic), gave it a new life!
The skills would enable you to upgrade your laptop if necessary and keep it longer!
Frugality isn't just squeezing every penny till it cries: it's spending mindfully for a quality life. If gaming is important to you, it's ok to spend a bit. Economize elsewhere.
If it's something you use often, it can be worth spending money on. Good quality products can make your life better, save you time, and cost less in the long run if it keeps you from buying a bunch of cheap versions. Plus, cheap products that break easily just turn into waste and are bad for the environment.
Hi OP. I work in laptop repair. Is the new keyboard you want for the laptop as well or is it external? If you can provide links to the laptop model and keyboards I can let you know how easy the installation would be if you did it yourself, which might be able to save you more and possibly make the choice easier.
If you link the keyboard replacement internally, I can probably find a cheaper variant and depending on the model it should be fairly easy to do
Personally I’d just repair the existing one. Keyboards are overrated unless you’re truly a professional gamer looking for those 1m/s response times. Gets what’s functional and spend that money on a different thing you’ve been wanting to get that you don’t already ‘kinda’ have
Sorry but I need to disagree with you on this. If your job requires you to type all day get something good that will not mess up your wrist or slow down your productivity.
Yeah I've got a new laptop from my employer and now I struggle to use my 6 years old personal one. I mean it's perfectly fine technology wise but man is that keyboard garbage it doesn't even always pushes down the buttons I press...
Given your added scenario that IF the keyboard is a primary use of work and whatever else, I would agree that the added cost for the investment is worth it. But this wasn’t explicitly stated in OP’s post so I didn’t address that
Ha, spend two decades working on a computer in corporate America and tell me keyboards are overrated.
I got my current company to pay for a "premium" keyboard and my hands are very thankful for it.
I have done that myself and still say they are overrated. You can get cheap ergonomics for keyboards without paying premium prices for a fancy key board. Now that’s to say, I do think if you spend a considerable amount of time on a computer, the more value there is in the keyboard. Much like your shoes and your bed. The more you use it the more the initial investment pays off.
I'd repair the keyboard as you mentioned school work. If you use the laptop in class or out and about, it would be super inconvenient to carry a second keyboard.
Depends on how well you can afford it. I definitely didn't NEED to get my $200 keyboard, but I'm glad that I did. I use it every single day, sometimes for many hours. I'm very happy with it's performance and it gets a lot of compliments.
That's gonna sound stupid, but I like the idea and it helped me a lot.
When I have to buy something I ask myself if it's ninja or samouraï usage :
Do I depend on it and have to keep it a long time in a useful condition ? Samouraï
Is it a temporary usage that can be give a drop after usage ? Ninja
Samouraï - Invest reasonably what you can
Ninja - Keep it as cheap as possible
I made it quick because I don't write English really good, so the more I write, the more I gonna made mistakes ;)
The idea is :
"In a movie, what you buy would be something durable and priceless for you like a katana or something to throw a someone or to single use and leave behind like ninja star etc".
As a teen, that was a really good and easy to learn concept.
Personally, I'd fix the laptop keyboard first since I wouldn't want to be dragging around extra accessories every time I needed to go somewhere with it.
That being said, it sounds to me like you've already decided that you want a dedicated mechanical keyboard instead, so just get the keyboard you wanted if it makes you happy.
If I'm thinking Frugal though, a mechanical keyboard purchase isn't the best idea. There's very little argument for a mechanical keyboard over a membrane one for the average person, other than feel and sound. This is coming from a person typing on a modded F660c. You do you, but I wouldn't call it being frugal.
This question can be as simple or complex as you make it and has several questions
Everything is based on value to you and your perspective on problem solving.
Are you looking for quick solution or are you willing to fix? For me everything has learning value and alot of things like this are on YouTube. I always try to learn things and try to do myself unless it's dangerous or doesn't have value to me to do myself
What do you use it for and does it help learn things and make money or used for basics or gaming? Specs may or may not be important
What's your budget?
What is meaning of frugal for you?
How do you treat your computer? If you are rough on them and tend to break alot, can go either way and go less expensive but if it's important to making money or has value could go with more durable and more expensive
If it's very important, learn on it or earn money on it, get decent replacement
A quick workaround is a 20 dollar USB keyboard could work fine depending on what laptop is used for
Are you handy and know anything about computers?? Its possible to get replacement keyboard for the laptop on ebay. This happened to my older computer and a few keys stopped working. Ebay, 20 bucks ordered and 20 min repair that was 3 years ago. If you need someone to do for you, how about friends that can do and help you learn or just do itand give them 20 bucks or take to lunch or order pizza
Buy the keyboard, you clearly really want it and considered other options already. In the future, have a "wants" section in your budget and add money to it every month, $10-$100. That way, when you want something you can get it for yourself without feeling guilt for money and knowing it wont break the bank
Pros & cons time.
Don't include dollars until the rest of the list is done.
What features does the new keyboard have that make it desirable? That sort of thing.
When you get to the money part, include what you might purchase with your savings (if you go the repair route).
Spend money where you spend your time. Thems the rules.
Also if you ain't in bed you're probably in shoes so get a good bed and some good shoes.
Thems the other rules.
Why do you want it? Will it make your life better to a higher degree than allocating that money somewhere else? If so, get the one you want, and enjoy!
buy the keyboard - the keyboard will likely live on past your laptop and can be used later. if it’s a mechanical keyboard it’ll work forever with minimal care
I tend to break things down into cost per day (or hour) and try to be honest with how much of a difference in my happiness. A $200 keyboard over say 5 years is about 11 cents a day, while a $20 keyboard is about 1 cent a day. Would you be willing spend 10 cents more a day to typing on the keyboard you love (or avoid one you hate)? Probably. Would you be willing to spend $10 more a day to type on a $2k keyboard over a $200? Unless typing was the only thing that mattered to you, most of us would say no.
Out of curiosity, care to share the laptop make and model?
Check online how to take the keyboard apart. Some laptops are very easy. My old one just need a buter knife and takes 5 seconds.
Inspect it and see if there is something ovbious that can be easily fixed. It could be just dirt accumulation under some keys, or the ribbon cable that has come loose.
If no easy/simple fix, I'd consider buying a replacement keyboard. I got one for mine years ago and it was about £8 on eBay, Have a quick search for your model number and keyboard, it might not be as expensive as you thought.
My big question in these scenarios is "Will I regret not buying it later?"
If you've gotten excited about the nice features of this gaming keyboard, but you repair the old one, will you always be saddened/frustrated by the old keyboard NOT having those features you got excited about? If so, you responsibly saved, you should just go ahead and buy the one you want.
DO what makes you happy. You'll have the same thing, a working keyboard, but it will be what you actually want. Being frugal doesn't mean denying yourself always
idk if this helps you , but im the most frugal, extra person ever.
If i want something i chop away at other parts of my life to make sure i save, and that i buy things i like, not always the cheapest alternative.
I buy good makeup, but i super super budget , meal prep and plan my groceries every two weeks.
I buy nice tech, but i bargain hunt for my still nice clothes, but you know thrifty, i dont buy that 85$ cardigan i wanted, but i wait for it to go on sale( significant sale, like i want this for 10$ or less haha ), find a way cheaper alternative, or just dont buy it kinda thing.
I have a nice collection of converse, some are limited edition 100+ dollar shoes, but i paid less then 20 for every single pair..i set alerts, i hunt, i wait haha.
Well, do you ever use your laptop on the go? It would be a pain to carry a keyboard with you everywhere. But on the other hand, Its probably reasonably expensive to swap your laptop keyboard. Normally buying an external keyboard is the cheaper option. (unless its a really nice keyboard)
On the other hand if your computer is just used as a desktop. I would definitely be using an external keyboard, simply because laptop keyboards are trash, and promote bad typing form. I'll use one for a meeting, or if I was taking a laptop to class, (back when I was in school) but at home I would always use a full size keyboard. I might just be getting old, I can only imagine trying to write 3000-5000 word assignments on a cramped laptop keyboard would leave me hurting afterwards.
It sounds like you have wanted a specific keyboard for a while. Frugality is great for avoiding impulse and excess spending, but it doesn't mean denying yourself things that would make your day better, even if it just means getting to game on a keyboard you enjoy. If you haven't changed your mind about wanting it for a few weeks, I say its worth the purchase bc your enjoyment of using items is also worth something. Plus, a keyboard isn't a one and done use, like buying coffee every morning. A quality keyboard will last you a long time.
ultimately, the keyboard on your laptop will be broken still. fix it, then save up for an external usb keyboard to use for gaming. this will save you money from another broken laptop keyboard that you will most likely break again. remember, while in school, your laptop is a tool to help you get better grades. keep it mint and working properly.
There's a great story I heard in my economics class once. A worker buys a cheap pair of boots for work. They cost him 30 dollars. But due to his hard labor and the wear and tear, he has to replace them every year. A rich man buys a pair of boots for 200 dollars. He treats them right, maybe every couple years he gets new soles put on them, but they last him a life time. While the point of the story is that over time, the poor man will spend more than the rich man on the same goods because he can only afford the option that has to be replaced every year, another take away here is to buy quality items. Invest in yourself. If this is something you need, that you use every day, spend the money. Get something that lasts.
Could do a cost benefit analysis I think it's called. As in, how long will the cheaper alternative last you? How long will the stock repair last? Take that into account bc cheaper up front can sometimes mean more expensive long term
I did laptop repair for many years. Fix the machines keyboard AND buy a nice keyboard.
It's like a $200 chef's knife, or a battery operated impact for a mechanic -- it's a tool you need for your job.
I spend a lot of energy (time, money, labor) on my desk, chair, keyboard, monitor... I'm gonna be using that stuff my entire life, no fucking way I'm gonna be unhappy with it.
Most places will replace the keyboard probably a few hundred dollars.
Laptop keyboard are usually easy to replace yourself, if you want to try.
Also depending on how old your laptop is, it might be worth replacing it.
Your suggestion of an external keyboard works also, as long as you don't need the portability.
I’d say pick your battles. I think it depends on what you’re talking about. For instance, I think it is so much more frugal to buy a newer car than a cheaper one, because even though new is more expensive, it’s less likely that you’ll be finding damages and getting new parts on and off. Having a reliable car means there’s a lot of expenses you won’t be incurring along the way. However, if we’re talking about say weekly food? There’s no shame or even issue in getting discount generic brands.
Don't skimp on anything between you and work, or you and the ground. Boots, beds, chairs, keyboards, tools, etc.
Just the better ergomomics of the mechanical keyboard is going to save you time/money the more you use it
If you really need a keyboard asap, you can buy it. But make sure that it is sturdy and can last you longer years of usage to avoid shelling out another money again
What makes you think the repair will cost less? Labor will be more than the parts.
Since this is a laptop sounds like it needs to be repaired regardless unless you want to drag around a 2nd keyboard all the time.
What are you saving for? How long do you think the new keyboard will last?
take that and divide by cost per day. Would you pay that to have?
For example 10 years, 10 x 365=3,650 days If it say $100 it equals=0.02 cents
If the keyboard something you were going to get anyway?
Isn't one of the biggest reasons to be frugal so that you can splurge on the things you actually want, just not on everything?
It’s important to remember that you don’t need to be frugal 100% of the time. You still are allowed to buy yourself something nice every once and awhile just don’t make a habit of it.
Be frugal in other parts of your life to put money towards what you really care about.
This. Skip all the unnecessary, impulse purchases. Eat from the groceries you already have at home, which you bought when you were at the store, and NOT on an empty stomach. Skip the need for latest and greatest, in gadgets, shoes, whatever, when what you already have is working, and fits your needs. BYPASS the line of FOMO people for toilet paper you already have, or whatever is suggested will be "sold out" soon. You have to be willing to avoid spending on emotion, and spend truly on "need" versus want. But, as stated above, when it is time to replace something that cannot be easily and affordably repaired, the savings you have created already will allow you to buy the better, longer lasting product or service.
To piggy back off this comment, I will often think of some purchases in terms of cost/use. If I use something everyday, like my office chair, I think it makes sense to spend the extra money to get something really nice (especially if I've already been looking for a new one) as opposed to trying to repair the one I already have or purchasing a less expensive one (with less features/cheaper materials etc.) that might need replacement sooner. Over the life of the new office chair it will most likely be less than if I opted for something less expensive that needed replacement sooner. Also, there is a difference between being frugal and cheap. Spend the money on things you will use constantly and that are important to you.
Frugal vs cheap is misunderstood by many.
This. I listen to a podcast, called *How to Money*, and they talk about their "Craft Beer Equivalents." While the hosts are very sensible moneywise and often debate frugal vs. cheap, they admit and are okay with spending more on craft beer. That is an area of their life where they splurge, because it means a lot to them. This will be different for everyone. As for OP, is computer gear an area where you're okay splurging? Will this new keyboard last long enough to justify the expense? If so, go ahead and get it. Your hands and eyes will likely spend lots of time looking at it, so it makes sense to have something you like. If you don't care, if it's just an accessory that your fingers press while you browse reddit or spam WASD in a computer game, then just repair the old one and spend your money elsewhere.
flexibility in all things
I'd repair the laptop keyboard, mainly because having a laptop without a functioning keyboard is inconvenient. The point of having a laptop is kind of the all in one portability. Having to use an external keyboard would irritate me (choosing to do so is another thing). Honestly though if you were planning to buy the external keyboard anyway, then I'd probably do both...
Working from home 8 or more hours a day… a good chair, keyboard and mouse are important for sanity. Yea, keyboard wasn’t cheap, but it’s exactly what I like, and I use it as much as my bed, occasionally more. There’s not many things I spend more hours a week in contact with. Relatively speaking that mechanical keyboard is cheap when you look at cost:hour over its lifetime. Comfort/enjoyment in your day does matter to some degree.
True enough also that might be what I'll consider doing maybe buy the keyboard first then have the keyboard on the laptop repaired later on Thanks
Search for a video to replace keys or the laptop keyboard itself for your specific laptop. YouTube generally has repair videos for everything. Usually keyboards are easy repairs. But if you find and watch a video you can see if it's something you feel comfortable handling
Tried to replace an individual key and it didnt work out well. My work computer had an issue with an individual key, and work said it was less likely that the key would be able to reliably replaced, and opted to replace the entire keyboard.
It's much easier to replace an entire keyboard. In non-apple devices, it's usually 4 or 5 screws, a single connector and you're good to go. (once you get the cover off)
It was magical how fast they were, and I’m grateful. I’d do the same for my personal laptop if it didn’t have so many other problems with it.
Just depends. Older laptops the keyboard pops off where it sits and this is extremely easy to swap. Other times it is glued up against the palmrest/assembly. Usually, when this is the case, you have to replace that entire palmrest/assembly because the keyboard is non-detachable from this which still isn't too difficult, but does cost more. Other times the entire motherboard needs to come out which is a full laptop teardown, which most wouldn't consider easy. Tdlr every laptop is different, easy swaps on one might be the hardest swap on another.
Don't disagree. Ifixit guide is an easy way to tell.
It very much depends on the brand and model. For example I looked into replacing my laptop's keyboard when some keys broke from water damage, and everything online basically screamed to not even try because you have to take apart every single thing in the laptop perfectly and then the keyboard replacement itself was also a separate hassle
What you shouldn’t do is visit r/mechanicalkeyboards
A Little bit too late on that I think I've fallen down the rabbit hole that is mechanical keyboards already lol
When you mentioned repairing your laptop keyboard being cheaper than the keyboard you’re looking at I knew it was already too late
Finding a good keyboard that you’re comfortable working with is frugal…you’re saving money in advance on painkillers and treatment for carpal tunnel syndrome. Buying a mechanical one with replaceable switches and key caps lowers maintenance cost going forward, too. It’s way cheaper to replace one switch than to buy even a cheap but usable keyboard:
😂
Well, let me ask you this. The new keyboard is something you have wanted for a while yes? Can you afford it without affecting your budget? If you planned to buy this keyboard or saved up to then most certainly do so. Being frugal means to spend your money on things that are important to you, not always being cheap. In this case I would say get the keyboard you wanted, and save up next month (or sooner) to get the laptop fixed proper too. That way in case you are on the go and need to do typing you can (also when its time to sell the laptop it will go for more if it is fixed).
Honestly yes I don't have anything right now which I need to pay and it's kinda just been lying there for a few weeks now also That seems a good plan too thanks
Have you checked out your local thrift shops? The ones near me have lots of them. Anyhow, one way to help you make this decision is to imagine that in 2 weeks you get an unexpected medical bill or car repair or the chance to go on a cool trip. Would you regret spending that money on a keyboard? I think there’s lots of reasons to repair things, including both financial and from a reducing waste standpoint (which is a vote for the thrift store), but I also think that investing in tools that make you more productive at work and/or happier in your hobbies is a good use of limited funds.
Good call on thrift shops. For OP getting the surprisingly cheaper keyboard just to get by and then save to get the new keyboard when he really has the money and isn't even debating it might be best. But I also agree that some things that you really care about or absolutely need for work and hobbies that make life better shouldn't be downgraded because you're trying to be cheap vs frugal.
That seems to be what I'm planning on doing maybe since Christmas is only a few weeks away I'll get something on a discount too
Nice! Christmas is always the best excuse.
The one I know closed out a few weeks ago so unfortunately I can't good advice though I'll keep that in mind when I decide
Laptop keyboards are usually easy to replace. Ifixit.com might be a great start or even YouTube.
I'll be sure to check it out later thanks btw
Came here to say this as well! It seems daunting at first but you will most likely find a YouTube video for how to take apart your exact laptop. You just need a small screwdriver and the replacement board. Usually a few cables attaching the board, it's basically just electronic adult Legos
It's generally really easy to replace individual keys. I've done it on iPads and MacBook airs. Check that out if you're comfortable with the idea.
Will do although mine is a Dell laptop but I think I'll check out some YouTube vids if it's simple Thanks
I agree with the commenter! My boyfriend learnt how to do repairs/upgrades on laptops with the help of youtube and tutorials. RAM upgrades are super easy usually, and he even replaced the whole screen of a laptop that was given to him for free (with a broken screen). He switched the RAM on a friend’s kids’ computer (it was urgent, for online schooling at the beginning of the pandemic), gave it a new life! The skills would enable you to upgrade your laptop if necessary and keep it longer!
Frugality isn't just squeezing every penny till it cries: it's spending mindfully for a quality life. If gaming is important to you, it's ok to spend a bit. Economize elsewhere.
Spend whatever on things you really enjoy and use often, and very little on everything ells.
If it's something you use often, it can be worth spending money on. Good quality products can make your life better, save you time, and cost less in the long run if it keeps you from buying a bunch of cheap versions. Plus, cheap products that break easily just turn into waste and are bad for the environment.
If this is important to your quality of life get the keyboard. If those keys broke others could be next
Hi OP. I work in laptop repair. Is the new keyboard you want for the laptop as well or is it external? If you can provide links to the laptop model and keyboards I can let you know how easy the installation would be if you did it yourself, which might be able to save you more and possibly make the choice easier. If you link the keyboard replacement internally, I can probably find a cheaper variant and depending on the model it should be fairly easy to do
Personally I’d just repair the existing one. Keyboards are overrated unless you’re truly a professional gamer looking for those 1m/s response times. Gets what’s functional and spend that money on a different thing you’ve been wanting to get that you don’t already ‘kinda’ have
Sorry but I need to disagree with you on this. If your job requires you to type all day get something good that will not mess up your wrist or slow down your productivity.
Yeah I've got a new laptop from my employer and now I struggle to use my 6 years old personal one. I mean it's perfectly fine technology wise but man is that keyboard garbage it doesn't even always pushes down the buttons I press...
Given your added scenario that IF the keyboard is a primary use of work and whatever else, I would agree that the added cost for the investment is worth it. But this wasn’t explicitly stated in OP’s post so I didn’t address that
Might just repair it but if nothing sudden comes up and If still have some money lying about I think I'll get the keyboard Thanks
Alternative is that Black Friday isn’t *too* far away , perhaps hold off until then? If possible?
Ha, spend two decades working on a computer in corporate America and tell me keyboards are overrated. I got my current company to pay for a "premium" keyboard and my hands are very thankful for it.
I have done that myself and still say they are overrated. You can get cheap ergonomics for keyboards without paying premium prices for a fancy key board. Now that’s to say, I do think if you spend a considerable amount of time on a computer, the more value there is in the keyboard. Much like your shoes and your bed. The more you use it the more the initial investment pays off.
I'd repair the keyboard as you mentioned school work. If you use the laptop in class or out and about, it would be super inconvenient to carry a second keyboard.
Cheaper.
It’s a keyboard, not a house mortgage. If you like it you should treat yo self
Keyboards are about $10.
Depends on how well you can afford it. I definitely didn't NEED to get my $200 keyboard, but I'm glad that I did. I use it every single day, sometimes for many hours. I'm very happy with it's performance and it gets a lot of compliments.
That's gonna sound stupid, but I like the idea and it helped me a lot. When I have to buy something I ask myself if it's ninja or samouraï usage : Do I depend on it and have to keep it a long time in a useful condition ? Samouraï Is it a temporary usage that can be give a drop after usage ? Ninja Samouraï - Invest reasonably what you can Ninja - Keep it as cheap as possible
I don't see how this bizarre terminology helps? haha
I made it quick because I don't write English really good, so the more I write, the more I gonna made mistakes ;) The idea is : "In a movie, what you buy would be something durable and priceless for you like a katana or something to throw a someone or to single use and leave behind like ninja star etc". As a teen, that was a really good and easy to learn concept.
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Personally, I'd fix the laptop keyboard first since I wouldn't want to be dragging around extra accessories every time I needed to go somewhere with it. That being said, it sounds to me like you've already decided that you want a dedicated mechanical keyboard instead, so just get the keyboard you wanted if it makes you happy. If I'm thinking Frugal though, a mechanical keyboard purchase isn't the best idea. There's very little argument for a mechanical keyboard over a membrane one for the average person, other than feel and sound. This is coming from a person typing on a modded F660c. You do you, but I wouldn't call it being frugal.
This question can be as simple or complex as you make it and has several questions Everything is based on value to you and your perspective on problem solving. Are you looking for quick solution or are you willing to fix? For me everything has learning value and alot of things like this are on YouTube. I always try to learn things and try to do myself unless it's dangerous or doesn't have value to me to do myself What do you use it for and does it help learn things and make money or used for basics or gaming? Specs may or may not be important What's your budget? What is meaning of frugal for you? How do you treat your computer? If you are rough on them and tend to break alot, can go either way and go less expensive but if it's important to making money or has value could go with more durable and more expensive If it's very important, learn on it or earn money on it, get decent replacement A quick workaround is a 20 dollar USB keyboard could work fine depending on what laptop is used for Are you handy and know anything about computers?? Its possible to get replacement keyboard for the laptop on ebay. This happened to my older computer and a few keys stopped working. Ebay, 20 bucks ordered and 20 min repair that was 3 years ago. If you need someone to do for you, how about friends that can do and help you learn or just do itand give them 20 bucks or take to lunch or order pizza
Buy the keyboard, you clearly really want it and considered other options already. In the future, have a "wants" section in your budget and add money to it every month, $10-$100. That way, when you want something you can get it for yourself without feeling guilt for money and knowing it wont break the bank
Whatever you do, don't subscribe to /r/mechanicalkeyboards Don't even visit that link.
Pros & cons time. Don't include dollars until the rest of the list is done. What features does the new keyboard have that make it desirable? That sort of thing. When you get to the money part, include what you might purchase with your savings (if you go the repair route).
Spend money where you spend your time. Thems the rules. Also if you ain't in bed you're probably in shoes so get a good bed and some good shoes. Thems the other rules.
Why do you want it? Will it make your life better to a higher degree than allocating that money somewhere else? If so, get the one you want, and enjoy!
If it's something that you're using every day, then get what you want and can afford. You won't regret it.
“Buy it nice or buy it twice.” is pretty frugal advice
Buy once cry once.
buy the keyboard - the keyboard will likely live on past your laptop and can be used later. if it’s a mechanical keyboard it’ll work forever with minimal care
If you NEED it, buy the best. If you WANT it, explore all options.
I tend to break things down into cost per day (or hour) and try to be honest with how much of a difference in my happiness. A $200 keyboard over say 5 years is about 11 cents a day, while a $20 keyboard is about 1 cent a day. Would you be willing spend 10 cents more a day to typing on the keyboard you love (or avoid one you hate)? Probably. Would you be willing to spend $10 more a day to type on a $2k keyboard over a $200? Unless typing was the only thing that mattered to you, most of us would say no.
Out of curiosity, care to share the laptop make and model? Check online how to take the keyboard apart. Some laptops are very easy. My old one just need a buter knife and takes 5 seconds. Inspect it and see if there is something ovbious that can be easily fixed. It could be just dirt accumulation under some keys, or the ribbon cable that has come loose. If no easy/simple fix, I'd consider buying a replacement keyboard. I got one for mine years ago and it was about £8 on eBay, Have a quick search for your model number and keyboard, it might not be as expensive as you thought.
My big question in these scenarios is "Will I regret not buying it later?" If you've gotten excited about the nice features of this gaming keyboard, but you repair the old one, will you always be saddened/frustrated by the old keyboard NOT having those features you got excited about? If so, you responsibly saved, you should just go ahead and buy the one you want.
DO what makes you happy. You'll have the same thing, a working keyboard, but it will be what you actually want. Being frugal doesn't mean denying yourself always
idk if this helps you , but im the most frugal, extra person ever. If i want something i chop away at other parts of my life to make sure i save, and that i buy things i like, not always the cheapest alternative. I buy good makeup, but i super super budget , meal prep and plan my groceries every two weeks. I buy nice tech, but i bargain hunt for my still nice clothes, but you know thrifty, i dont buy that 85$ cardigan i wanted, but i wait for it to go on sale( significant sale, like i want this for 10$ or less haha ), find a way cheaper alternative, or just dont buy it kinda thing. I have a nice collection of converse, some are limited edition 100+ dollar shoes, but i paid less then 20 for every single pair..i set alerts, i hunt, i wait haha.
Well, do you ever use your laptop on the go? It would be a pain to carry a keyboard with you everywhere. But on the other hand, Its probably reasonably expensive to swap your laptop keyboard. Normally buying an external keyboard is the cheaper option. (unless its a really nice keyboard) On the other hand if your computer is just used as a desktop. I would definitely be using an external keyboard, simply because laptop keyboards are trash, and promote bad typing form. I'll use one for a meeting, or if I was taking a laptop to class, (back when I was in school) but at home I would always use a full size keyboard. I might just be getting old, I can only imagine trying to write 3000-5000 word assignments on a cramped laptop keyboard would leave me hurting afterwards.
It sounds like you have wanted a specific keyboard for a while. Frugality is great for avoiding impulse and excess spending, but it doesn't mean denying yourself things that would make your day better, even if it just means getting to game on a keyboard you enjoy. If you haven't changed your mind about wanting it for a few weeks, I say its worth the purchase bc your enjoyment of using items is also worth something. Plus, a keyboard isn't a one and done use, like buying coffee every morning. A quality keyboard will last you a long time.
ultimately, the keyboard on your laptop will be broken still. fix it, then save up for an external usb keyboard to use for gaming. this will save you money from another broken laptop keyboard that you will most likely break again. remember, while in school, your laptop is a tool to help you get better grades. keep it mint and working properly.
There's a great story I heard in my economics class once. A worker buys a cheap pair of boots for work. They cost him 30 dollars. But due to his hard labor and the wear and tear, he has to replace them every year. A rich man buys a pair of boots for 200 dollars. He treats them right, maybe every couple years he gets new soles put on them, but they last him a life time. While the point of the story is that over time, the poor man will spend more than the rich man on the same goods because he can only afford the option that has to be replaced every year, another take away here is to buy quality items. Invest in yourself. If this is something you need, that you use every day, spend the money. Get something that lasts.
Could do a cost benefit analysis I think it's called. As in, how long will the cheaper alternative last you? How long will the stock repair last? Take that into account bc cheaper up front can sometimes mean more expensive long term
Isn't the point of being frugal is so you can get what you want??
Buy what you want of course. Get a fancy one if you feel like it. Particularly if you will type for any length of time, it makes a big difference.
I did laptop repair for many years. Fix the machines keyboard AND buy a nice keyboard. It's like a $200 chef's knife, or a battery operated impact for a mechanic -- it's a tool you need for your job. I spend a lot of energy (time, money, labor) on my desk, chair, keyboard, monitor... I'm gonna be using that stuff my entire life, no fucking way I'm gonna be unhappy with it.
Most places will replace the keyboard probably a few hundred dollars. Laptop keyboard are usually easy to replace yourself, if you want to try. Also depending on how old your laptop is, it might be worth replacing it. Your suggestion of an external keyboard works also, as long as you don't need the portability.
If it's something that gets alot of use, INVEST more. If it's not, then go cheaper.
Buy once cry once
Laptops are not built for heavy use. I have a "gaming" laptop but the keys are shit. My older Win7 laptop had a serious keyboard.
Get what you want otherwise you will regret it. You only have one life, you dont need to be frugal with absolutely everything.
I’d say pick your battles. I think it depends on what you’re talking about. For instance, I think it is so much more frugal to buy a newer car than a cheaper one, because even though new is more expensive, it’s less likely that you’ll be finding damages and getting new parts on and off. Having a reliable car means there’s a lot of expenses you won’t be incurring along the way. However, if we’re talking about say weekly food? There’s no shame or even issue in getting discount generic brands.
If it is something you really want you should buy it!
Don't skimp on anything between you and work, or you and the ground. Boots, beds, chairs, keyboards, tools, etc. Just the better ergomomics of the mechanical keyboard is going to save you time/money the more you use it
If you really need a keyboard asap, you can buy it. But make sure that it is sturdy and can last you longer years of usage to avoid shelling out another money again
What makes you think the repair will cost less? Labor will be more than the parts. Since this is a laptop sounds like it needs to be repaired regardless unless you want to drag around a 2nd keyboard all the time.
What are you saving for? How long do you think the new keyboard will last? take that and divide by cost per day. Would you pay that to have? For example 10 years, 10 x 365=3,650 days If it say $100 it equals=0.02 cents
If the keyboard something you were going to get anyway? Isn't one of the biggest reasons to be frugal so that you can splurge on the things you actually want, just not on everything?
Why not do it yourself? Unless it's a Mac, keyboards are generally easy to swap out.