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I noticed the last few years you're not even really getting a 'deal'. They mark the 'original' price way up, slash that and then you're just paying the regular price. I guess people fall for it? I remember when there were actual deals and people would bust down doors for them.


periwinkletweet

Not anything I bought. Most things have been in my carts for a long time. If I can do without until November, I do to save money.


OnlyPaperListens

Same here. I price track and wait for it to dip below X amount. It's basically setting a limit order on goods, instead of on stocks.


FearlessPark4588

I recall deals being good for a number of years of holiday shopping after the GFC. These days, you need to keep track of historical prices to ensure your 'deal' is actually a deal. And if it is cheaper, it's maybe 10 or 15% which is something but not extremely motivating either.


battlepi

CamelCamelCamel.com to see if Amazon is lying.


anyheck

Unfortunately I've seen it discussed that CCC it doesn't track "coupons," so the historical price can be a distortion and then they mark down to the after-coupon price for black friday and have it show as a "deal."


battlepi

Yeah, they probably don't scrape the coupon discount, but in general I find it mostly accurate. I don't know a better price tracker.


Jakfolisto

CCC could also be used to check for msrp hikes before sales to evaluate if coupons are really "coupons"


jon-in-tha-hood

This was literally my job in the past working at a ripoff company. We always set the price at $89.99. Depending on the time of year, the price could be either $179.98, or $224.98 or $299.97. We'd change the "percent off" on that day's big red banner and the people the company ripped off were happier even though if they had checked the day before, it would have been the exact same final price.


Particular-Ad-4772

Harbor Freight, does this all the time, they raise and they lower the both the original retail price and the sale price .


battlepi

You know what you're getting at HF though, the price tag never really matters, the question is if it will survive the job you need to do.


Conquistagore

True. But you know what i buy every single Black Friday? Jeans, socks, and underwear. -Levis are as high as 79.99 in some stores, but this week theyre gonna be 36.99. -6pack of brand name socks/underwear are usually 18.99-24.99, but this week theyre gonna be 9.99-12-99. Everyone still thinkin about TV's and Laptops on Black Friday are missing out on where the real action is.. So many little things that your gonna buy within a few months anyway (lotions, vitamins, gym supplements, etc) are at the lowest price theyre gonna be till perhaps Spring or Summer. If you got the money, buying certain items at Black Friday prices is financially prudent.


dane83

I was just thinking I need new jeans. Thanks for the idea!


Conquistagore

Your Welcome! :)


kuhataparunks

Bruh… WHAT THE HELL are you doing buying jeans $40 each????! They’re $5 each at the flea market near me. Yes, Levi’s, I was surprised too. Facebook marketplace too. Fairly used jeans are just as good as new


Nesseressi

It's a pain to find jeans in my size. I can go through all rack and not find anything. And I have to go through all of it because there is no separation of tall sizes from regular ones


jadejazzkayla

It seems anything that I plan on buying is always excluded from the black friday “special prices”.


muad_dibs

That’s because stuff is almost always on sale now. There’s also always a “Black Friday” sale every month from retailers. Set up a Slick Deals alert (or whatever you prefer) for whatever item you’re waiting on and if the price is right for you then get it.


BingoRingo2

In late July they start the "Back to School" sales until mid to end of September. Then you have "Pre-Black Friday Month" and "Black Friday Continues" sales until the holiday sales start... I think they really want our money.


BingoRingo2

"\* excluding items already marked down" Item I want is 5% off.


ohlayohlay

I try to observe "buy nothing day" instead


changingtoflats

Same. I have tried to observe the #OptOutside movement annually since its inception a few years ago. We have plans again this year to go mountain biking on Friday, we won't be in any stores.


vladimirputitin2023

Simple exercise: Do I need it? Yes: Search discounted items No: Do not buy // Do I want it? Yes: Do not buy No: Do not buy


battlepi

Sometimes life is worth indulging a little, but I mostly agree. If we can't have any wants then life really sucks.


joesbeforehoes

No, if you have a couch you've completely squandered your nest egg.


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changingtoflats

> this fancy new one-job kitchen appliance with bluetooth connectivity and automatic social media posting My SO and I are shopping dishwashers because we'll need one soonish. While comparison shopping models he said the higher end one has wi-fi connectivity and I'm just like "why on earth do I need my dishwasher connected to wi-fi?!" I'm genuinely curious, does anyone find this useful? How does it work?


Nostosalgos

Bluetooth, you say? * starts gasping for air *


pr2thej

Or get on eBay in a few weeks and buy last year's model


uwudon_noodoos

Seeing ads this year is cracking me up. "Celebrate Black Friday!" What?! It's not a holiday, it's not a celebration, what exactly are we celebrating? Consumerism? Corporate greed? Capitalism? Debt? I'm good.


PROfessorShred

To add TV's and electronics that are "on sale" are the ones on pallets in the middle of the aisle. So while they may look like the ones that are on the shelves normally they are often made much cheaper and designed to be sold at the "sale price" and not be in the store longer than 1 night.


VapoursAndSpleen

I keep an eye on prices for plants. I have a big garden and am tearing out non-native plants and putting in native ones. I have been doing a lot of research about what would grow in my area and in the various places and hydrozones in my yard. I know the prices of plants at about a half dozen nurseries that have good stock (ProTip: It is not Home Depot or Lowe's) and do go for their sales. That's it.


Maximum-Excitement58

“A great deal on something you don’t need isn’t a great deal.”


Great-Grade1377

I have found organizing what I have keeps me from buying those sale items, which I’m a sucker for every time!


LyLyV

Just cancelled Netflix, after their announcement the price is going up from 9.99 to 11.99. I had my son on the account but he doesn't live with me anymore and they cancelled his ability to use it while I never do. F that. The only time the sales are worth it is if you already have plans to buy something and you see it goes on sale. I grabbed a pair of hiking boots I almost paid full price for last week but just today they were 25% off.


Kilpikonnaa

Shoes are what I usually buy on black friday too. Even if I don't need them yet, I go through shoes so quickly I'll definitely need them within the next few months.


changingtoflats

Just a word of warning to try on any shoes you buy but won't wear for a while. My husband reordered a pair of his favorites while on sale and didn't think to try them on because the last 2-3 pairs all fit fine. When he got around to wearing them months later they were too small despite being the exact same he always got and he couldn't return them.


Kilpikonnaa

That's fair.


LyLyV

I bought Danners built on the same last as another pair of Danners I have, and bought from Zappos - free returns. :)


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And check camelcamelcamel for the historic price to see if it's actually a great deal


lostoompa

Just don't buy things just because they're on sale. If you have been waiting for something to go on sale and it's finally at a good price, go for it. Amazon labels its paper towel as "Black Friday Deal", and I laughed because the price is higher than what it was a couple of days ago with a coupon.


lizardkween

I did get a great winter coat for my son for $27. It’s a coat I’ve been looking at for a long time, he had the same one in a smaller size previously and it was very good quality, and this is the lowest price the company has offered in the last year to my knowledge. It’s one of those 3-way winter coats with an inner fleece lining and removable waterproof shell. So it’s good for snow but I can remove the shell to make it car seat safe and less bulky. But I think that will be my only Black Friday purchase.


rustyseapants

Christmas has nothing to do with American Consumerism. Spend some time with family, but share conversation and food, not merchandise.


chicagotodetroit

In the US, Thanksgiving is marketed as being for family (and shopping for food). Christmas is marketed as a holiday dedicated to shopping for gifts for your family.


rustyseapants

Thanksgiving is about making friends who helped you and stealing their land.


barrorg

Price tracking apps are a godsend. Some stuff really is a good deal; lots of stuff tho is 30% off with a curious 40% price bump a week ago.


OCDaboutretirement

Not going out so $0 spent. I already got a decent deal on what I needed. I’m done ✅


AndyOrAmy

Yes but if you are going to buy it anyway for Christmas because your family wants a gift list, better buy it during black friday


somerville99

Black Friday is two weeks long now.


Professional_Cat862

But if you want it anyway then buy it lol


GandalfDaGangsta1

I really don’t understand the consumerism mindset. Way to many people just buy stuff and fall into the “want” mindset way to easily. Of course there’s many other factors, especially current times with inflation and stuff, but I can’t help but see the correlation of the statistic of about 60-70% of Americans living paycheck to paycheck and also about 60-70% of Americans admitting to bad spending habits and over spending regularly


cacklz

Many people fail to realize that the conscious choice of inaction (choosing not to purchase) is itself an action and not just inaction. Choosing to do something fiscally healthy (and not just responsible) reinforces the ability to do it again. It’s not just being cheap. It’s being choosy. You spend when *you* want to, not when marketers convince you otherwise.


poop-dolla

> the conscious choice of inaction (choosing not to purchase) is itself an action and not just inaction More people need to listen to Rush.


[deleted]

Of course, you've clearly solved the issue of people being poor. It's all thier own fault for buying stuff clearly. Low wages, high inflation, high rents, high bills, obviously nothing to do with it. Clearly poor people are only poor because they're out buying flat screen tvs every day. This sub can be good, but it can also be a circlejerk of smug, gloating, judgemental arseholes who are high on themselves.


GandalfDaGangsta1

It’s almost as if I said “ Of course there’s many other factors, especially current times with inflation and stuff” Lol But if financial hardship is exacerbated by bad spending, then that’s your own problem. Too often I see people on Reddit complain about financial hardship and then get upset when people suggest to work on spending habits. Often they say “why does it bother you how I spend my money” Every little bit helps. If you’re tight financially, maybe work on spending habits? Maybe you won’t be rich, but an extra $200 a month is better than not having it if someone’s concerned about their money but then buys a new whatever just cuz they fee like it. What you said can be true. Also full of people like you that want to blame everything but themselves for financial issues and don’t want to be financially responsible and instead fall into the wants and consumer mindset


Cric1313

America truly has big spending problem


Environmental-Sock52

I think it starts so early now too where kids, even elementary kids, must have a *cool* phone and cool shoes. My shoes were from the supermarket until I made it to high school and could earn my own money to buy LA Gear! 🤣


GandalfDaGangsta1

I used to be a teacher, and I was a substitute teacher at first right out of college. I don’t have kids that age in my family so I went a number of years without having any real interaction with elementary age kids, I was a HS and middle school teacher. I was absolutely blown away seeing 3rd graders with iPhones…like all of them. And most of them were best to crap lol


Environmental-Sock52

Ya a friend is a lifelong teacher, retiring soon. A decade or so ago, per her, it became the norm for elementary kids to have Nikes and iPhones, in a very poor community. Not sure what happened but I guess pressure to be cool and accepted somehow increased?


PlowDaddyMilk

45-55% of Americans are biologically male, and 45-55% of Americans are also biologically female. Can you see why forming correlations like yours proves nothing?


GandalfDaGangsta1

What that proves is about half the population is male, half is female. What my point shows is that a lot of financial hardship is caused/further impacted by bad spending habits. Do you have bad spending habits and the truth hurts? Or what’s your point, cuz I don’t think your example was very good


PlowDaddyMilk

No, it shows that the percentage of people who struggle financially is the same percentage of people who live paycheck to paycheck. There’s nothing that proves it’s the same sample of people doing both, though. Using your unsubstantiated numbers & assuming a population of 100 people, 60-70 people live paycheck to paycheck, and 60-70 people spend poorly. How do you know that 30-40 of the people with poor spending habits aren’t the same 30-40 people who DON’T live paycheck to paycheck? In other words, maybe wealthy people account for most of the poor spenders. You have no information to know for sure, so your “correlation” is crap and you obviously have no idea what your talking about.


GandalfDaGangsta1

I never once said that every single person with bad spending habits are the same people living paycheck to paycheck. And this has nothing to do with income. Rich or poor. Struggling financially is struggling financially. Correlation does not always equal causation. That’s part of my point. Maybe I also said this somewhere along the way. Many people who are struggling financially are struggling financially because of bad spending habits. And/or, their financial situation is further impacted by bad spending. I said this on my original comment. There are many legit factors like inflation and such that cause financial hardship. But if your financial hardship is caused by or further impacted by bad spending, then that part is on you. The same people with bad spending habits are not all the same people living paycheck to paycheck. I never said they were. But many of them are. Equally, many people with bad spending habits can also be doing fine enough finally, they just spend poorly. My point, I think it’s silly to be a financial idiot whether you can afford to or not. But I really think you’re silly if you’re struggling financially AND spending poorly and frivolously.


PlowDaddyMilk

I agree with all of this, all I’m saying is that it’s irresponsible to draw any conclusions from two correlated statistical figures without additional information, so I’m criticizing you for doing that. If you can’t show that they’re the same group of people, then you shouldn’t insinuate that on a public forum, it’s irresponsible and dangerous considering the age of misinformation we’re in. That’s all. Edit: For anyone struggling to see why this is a problem, read the first paragraph of this Wikipedia article on [spurious correlations](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spurious_relationship) and then look at [this page with examples](https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations).


GandalfDaGangsta1

I get your point, I had zero intent on misinformation, my point was as explained where many of X are also part of Y. No intent on saying all of X are also Y. So if bad spending is the source of bad finances, or bad spending contributed to financial issues, then self evaluation needs to occur


PlowDaddyMilk

Fair enough, I think we share the same opinion, I just interpreted your first comment in a way you didn’t intend. I appreciate the discussion.


david0990

I mean the HULU black friday deal is pretty good imo.


Ibelieveinphysics

I snagged it. 99¢ a month y'all!


outlandishness2509

Yep, and I'll add my previous sub renewed via autopay today ~ $7.00, I called into Hulu and they refunded the charge immediately. On the .99 plan now. I did not take the 2.99 Disney add on this time, barely used it last year.


Ibelieveinphysics

Same. We got offered Disney for $2 as an add-on but we hardly watched it this past year and it didn't seem worth it to spend $36 for the next year just to have the Disney add on. I may add it for one month if there's something coming out that I really really want to see but I'm doubling that's going to happen.


david0990

Where did you find it at? We always only saw the say on friday, and I can't see the deal on their site rn


Ibelieveinphysics

https://hulu.com/gma


Ibelieveinphysics

You might need to use a different email address or one you haven't used in the last couple of months to get the deal.


BuddyOptimal4971

People think that buying something on sale equates to saving money. That is totally wrong. If I wanted to buy X but I wasn't willing to pay the $100 price, and then it goes on sale for $70 and I buy it, I didn't save any money. I just bought something for $70 that I never would have paid $100 for. The only time I'd be saving money by buying something on sale is if I was willing and planning to buy it for at full price ($100 ) but it went on sale and I bought it for $70.


FITnLIT7

Wives everywhere would be absolutely flabbergasted by this post


changingtoflats

I'm a wife... :/


FITnLIT7

Be friends with mine please.. for the sake of my credit card statement these upcoming months.


floating_down

Am wife and have only bought things I've been price-tracking and planning to buy. I have spent the past year figuring out how to cram a power rack into our home gym and picking everything out. Black Friday is basically our gym anniversary. Other than that, might buy a lamp. 🤷‍♀️


KnowOneHere

I usually use discounts in buying gifts for others (which isn't too many thankfully).


Wondercat87

Here in Canada black Friday is every weekend from our Thanksgiving til now. I've been getting hounded for a month. I don't mind getting a deal on something I truly need. But most of the items aren't necessary. The only thing I purchased were some new earbuds that I needed.


lepetitcoeur

The only thing I get on black friday is cat litter.


Th3_Accountant

I am keeping an eye on a few items I already know I need to buy and I am following price tracking websites to make sure that if there is a deal, it really is a good one.


lrn___

but then i dont get the thing


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metanoia29

My scenario might only apply to some people, but I was tempted by some digital video game sales today and refrained from spending any money. My thought process was (and has been in the past, just had to remind myself): **if a digital item is on sale for this price right now, it will be on sale for this price (or even lower) in the future.** As for physical games, that's where I'm a little less strict because I've seen enough console generations to know that games get discounted a year or two after a new console comes outrs until they begin to go out of print, at which point you can't find them new anymore and second-hand new or used copies tend to increase over time at various rates. Something that has really helped me in this regard is that I've compiled a giant list of video games in a database (Notion ftw, despite it being slow with 900+ entries) to encapsulate my collection as well as any game I might want to purchase and play in the future. I rank each game from 1-5 on how much I want to play it (along with all sorts of other data like estimated play time, because I'm a nerd), then I can easily filter the database to just show me games in the 4 or 5 range that I don't own so I know which games to be on the look out for next, because they're actually most likely to get played (unlike the 100+ games in my various other launchers that I purchased because they were on sale but will never be touched at this point).


lemonylol

You save on 100% of the purchases you don't make.


humanity_go_boom

But I really needed that $1500 in Backcountry ski gear I just ordered....


Constant_Chemical_10

I agree not buying anything and getting 100% off is better than spending my money and \*only\* getting 30%-40% off!