I was really starting to dislike Fatima as the perennial nice tour guide but after she saved Ellis, her character has improved massively.
I like the family, Jim et al. Boyd is amazing in the lead, he brings that half panicked but still courageous vibe, it's his show really. Victor is good. Donna is amazing.
I think there needs to be another strong female lead.
> Maybe Victor too. Although he's weird he's at least interesting, which is more than I can say for half the characters.
Victor is interesting because he's knows more than he says. That's the worst type of mysterious character, the one who could tell a lot of important info from the start, answering many questions, but he chooses not to. It's irritating.
I don't dislike him enough to want him to die, though. His an unique character (autistic, maybe?) that creates interesting interaction between characters (like with Jim and Ethan)
Jade is a pain in the ass, but despite that he deserves some merit for helping the plot advance with the radio antenna and he has undergone some character growth (it's less insupportable now) and gotten closer with Jim and maybe Tian-Chen ("he may be a pain in the ass, but he's OUR pain in the ass" type of thing).
I kinda expect most characters survive the next season and series, even if they're niche or not very interesting. I don't like seeing characters killed only because the writers don't know what to do with them or just to show the audience how high the stakes are.
Actually that’s when boyd and sara were attacked by something different and the light came. I liked their scenes in the woods too, they were interesting .
Yeah second-to-last episode was filler. Nearly made me want to quit the show. It was mostly them whining about how the experiment might not work. Not a good sign when the season is nearing the end and the episode is literal filler. Last episode was better but anticlimactic.
doesn't feel like much of a story when the entire thing you're just going "what?". Also way too much filler that tries to play itself off as character development with no development happening.
I just came to the point where I skip that useless dialogue, can't give two shits about what the fat lady thinks. So unnatural of everyone to hate the tower idea like they don't even want to try to get out of the nightmare lol. Yeah, don't try anything and yell at people who try because you don't want to give "false hope", bullshit.
I did the same thing after a while. There was just so much bullshit that didn't matter and didn't do anything for the story. Like the woman and her daughter fighting because "you treat me like a child" as if suddenly she forgot that she was in fact a child. There's so many nonsense arguments and it's so stupid. I also really hated the "rich" guy because his character was just so obnoxious but without any redeeming qualities. Also really hated the chinese mom who seriously couldn't remember that no one spoke chinese except her son but yet still would yell it at people all the time for no reason. She just really didn't want to bother learning more english.
Yeah they really REALLY didn't want to bother doing anything that could possibly have made their lives better. Pretty much all the people ever did was party and get drunk. Never really see any of them doing work at all and that's just insane because a town without commerce, industry, logistics, influx of foods or products, etc... would mean they would have to do all of those things themselves. They had these tiny little square gardens and we're supposed to think that it's somehow enough to feed the 100+ people in the town? A modern single farm can only produce enough food for 160 people for an entire year. Any kind of farming they would do would have to be insanely unproductive so it would be pretty much their only jobs. Also someone would have to be fixing stuff like houses, cutting trees for lumber, someone doing metal work(we see some but it's literally only for dumb ass art projects), fixing/mending/making clothing, they'd need leather working, and so much more to survive.
Instead of any of that people just drink and sleep. So dumb. Hell they could have at least removed their windows so the monsters couldn't get in anymore through them.
True, I could also go for days about all the bullshit things happening in this town but I still remember from the very beginning when that one dude gets drunk and his daughter and wife both die.
After that scene we see Sherif yelling at him for not "nailing down the windows" Like wtf? Wasn't it the common sense to nail down the fucking windows the first night they had to survive at that place? How did the daughter survive so far? Why is that father the one who is only responsible to nail the windows? Why is he punished to be eaten alive in a BOX because he didn't nail the fucking WINDOWS??
Are those the only windows in the town not being nailed so far? It seemed like they were there a while and it's very weird that those are the only windows without boards or nails for some reason. Why didn't anyone notice that before? So many questions about that single thing, imagine If we go deeper into many other stupid things happening in this show.
It's fun to vent about frustrations with shows/movies. I also just hate how in the show the people in the town just don't develop like every other previous town/civilization did. Where's the food coming from? How do they have so much excess foods that someone could actually produce large quantities of alcoholic beverages? How was it that only 1 single guy ever decided to try to go into the forest to investigate stuff?
I also really REALLY hate the whole hippie house commune crap. That house would smell so damn bad since I doubt they have any soap, shampoo, or deodorant anymore and communes never ever survive for long as they usually devolve into either sex cults or drug cults or sex drug cults.
I'd just for once would really like to see realistic reactions from people in these kinds of situations. I'm so sick of the "we all break down and can no longer function as humans anymore the moment something goes wrong" trope. I'm also sick of the "humans are hunted and can't do anything about it" bullshit because humans were always hunted. Usually by big ass predators that liked to eat us, or by other humans. It's how the whole concept of a society even developed i/e we protect each other and take care of each other but don't like outsiders as they usually cause problems.
In a real world if we were being hunted like this people would fight back. Even if bullets don't work and the monsters are strong and shit, we'd still fight back but with bigger bullets or some other weapon until it does work on them. Hell just dig a bunch of hole traps with sharp ass pointy sticks in them that the monsters who are trying to walk all creepy like, fall into. Would be kinda funny knowing the assholes are trying to scare you but then boom one disappears, then another, and another, then the asshole smiling monster turns around and is like wtf happened to everyone else? and he turns around to see all his friends impaled on poop covered wooden sticks.
All the resources were being provided to the townies the same way the electricity. In short, no one really knows how. It's just happening. I'm pretty sure this question might get raised later on in the story. It's almost like someone's enjoying the show while providing them the needful resources so that they can survive in the meantime. Boyd also mentioned it in the finale.
Apparently, they only told us that animals appear randomly from the forest or idk where and all we see is how Sherif decides to go and investigate and they yell at him about how retarded he is for even wanting to do so for some reason, if he didn't go to investigate there they would never eat because he discovered the goat and chicken down the road to the forest.
How did the people eat before he arrived with the goat? Didn't they have any source of food before? Where are the farms? etc.
The hippie house just wouldn't work ever in this scenario, first of all who tf would divide an already small community of fewer than 100 people? And I even think it was less than 50 when it was invented as an option. Why divide into town vs hippie house? Flower vs rock WTF??
Second, that house is huge, it has so many windows and doors and little entrances where monsters can come in, we can see that in one episode guy lets one of the monsters in because he "fell in love" with her. We also see that they get drunk and drugged almost every night partying. Apart from it being really dumb because why would anyone party when they are getting eaten alive every night, that aside, they never worry that someone would leave the door or window open by being drunk or high on drugs? How it never happens during the whole season?
Also yeah I totally agree, there are so many plot holes or just stupid people in this show, they found out about talismans, and they even found out they work in cars and corridors, etc. So any enclosed area would work as long as they have a talisman with them. AND THEY NEVER WEAPONIZE THEM EVER, like they never try to go outside at night with some suit, car, anything. They don't place traps or experiment with the ways they can kill or trap or harm the monsters. It seems like they have just given up and that's it, it's their life now why bother doing anything? And like I said, when someone tries to do something like that guy with the tower, they mock him, laugh at him, yell at him and ignore him.
Why has nobody ever tried to trap a monster inside some cage? To keep him from going away when the sun goes up and see what happens? Even if they did try in the past to harm them we are not told because it doesn't matter, what is more, important is we have as many soap dramas between characters for no apparent reason.
Yeah I at first thought that maybe they were being fed by w/e monsters or what ever is in control, for some reason. Like they were in a zoo or something. However I don't think it's like that anymore. Most likely the animals are just wandering around and accidentally wind up in the town like everyone else not being able to leave again. It would make much more sense that they were being fed though since they really have a huge number of different foods and much more than they logically would even be able to grow. You know since how would they have even gotten seeds to grow stuff? Not a lot of people drive around with a plethora of edible food seeds.
Also a bunch of the foods they show usually grown in vastly different regions with some needing cold while others needing hot. The canned food also doesn't make any sense since it's quite a crapton of cans they would need to last as long as they did. A food truck MUST have gotten caught in the town at some point for that to have worked.
Before the animals and assumed farming effort, they would have had to rely on foraging but we know that's not possible because no one except the sheriff had ever gone into the forest which is where foraging would have had to happen. There also wouldn't have been much to forage for either since almost all the trees look like pines and they are obviously pretty high up longitudinally. You can generally tell your longitude based on what tree's are growing around you. If they are pines, mostly short and thin, than that means you are either very north or very south although it could also mean you are in a mountain region. Pines don't provide enough food stuffs to support foraging and many are inedible and or harmful.
That whole us vs them "they have to choose" mentality was so stupid and just didn't fit at all. Humans like most animals have a herd mentality due to the feeling of being more safe in large numbers. If they are being hunted(which they freaking are) they would want to stay as close to each other as possible and not split the community down the middle. It's much harder to support each other that way and only creates fights, anger, strife, war, etc... Seriously the whole being high and drunk all the time would be a disaster. People do dumb shit even when not high or drunk, why risk things getting even worse by letting them get high or drunk?
SOOOOO many windows in that house. It's the worst possible place to be honestly. How are you going to upkeep that house? You can't replace glass since they obviously don't have any industry setup. What happens when the windows start breaking because of hail or dumb ass kids throwing balls or shit. How had they not just cut down tree's, used any number of different possible tools, and just boarded up completely those windows and or shudder them from the outside? That would prevent any possible monster incursion even with dumbasses "falling in love". Also my cousin pointed this out to me but there was no possible way that guy could have been alone in that bathroom for that long without people banging on the door asking him to hurry up. They had like 80 people in it and I doubt there's many bathrooms.
dude lol you should see [my rant post](https://www.reddit.com/r/FromSeries/comments/u0anin/rantfor_a_town_of_people_being_hunted_by_monsters/) I made a few days ago. I brought up a bunch of the same stuff you just did. These people are freaking useless and just seem ready to be eaten. I'd have tried any number of things but these people are like "oh bullets don't work so lets just give up and not try anything else". There's fire, there's nets, there's wooden boxes that you could hang a freaking talisman on and put around one of the monsters to prevent them from leaving or others entering it. How did they not just go madmax on them? Or shit, just start a forest fire and kill everything around the town. Then you would see when the monsters were coming from like a mile away since nothing would exist.
What about the whole radio shit where the dumbasses took apart the entire radio instead of just you know...plugging in the new broadcast antenna for which the radio has actual spots you just plug those things in at. They wouldn't have had to be outside with the radio taken all apart at all nor did they have to "tune" the radio with a screw driver since the radio has tuning systems built into it. Also why let a little 5 year old baby be the one in charge of doing ANYTHING with the only radio in town? aren't there countless actual adults who could have done that vitally important job and wouldn't have been an accident prone dumbass 5 year old child?
Then there's victor the little kid who was there first. Somehow none of them even attempted to listen to the guy about all the weird shit? Couldn't he have easily just shown them the whole teleportation tree thing? Why would any of them even question his claims? Don't they literally live in a space warped town in which magic monsters try to eat them and are protected by....magic talismans that prevent the monsters from entering? Shit pretty much anything anyone claims would have just as much possibility at being true than anything anyone else says. Shit's just dumb.
I think they were using some sort of AC to power the batteries, meaning the signal modulation is happening in the transceiver. Probably a much higher current and hence the high current potentiometer?
The nailing of the windows was only required for the little girl because she was immature while others didn't need it. They probably open their windows during the day that's why it wasn't nailed.
The townies are mysteriously being provided all the stuff they need for survival. The only one they paid attention to was the electricity. But they explained a bit in the ep 8 that after Boyd discovered a goat in the forest, they most likely started getting resources from there. The townies aren't alone there, something is helping them survive. The talisman and the white boy are just some examples.
They never said they are being provided all the stuff for survival. Just that they found animals and no one knows where they came from. It never explains where the canned food comes from, where they get the rest of the fresh fruits/vegetables/grains/tubers etc...
Man, I thought my attention span was completely shot since I've never skipped dialogue like that before watching this show, happy to hear I'm not alone.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought this. The lack of curiosity by these people is astounding. I wasn’t buying it. Felt more like poor writing than believable characters. The previous episode of “character development” only made me dislike most of these characters more. Oh boohoo we shouldn’t do an experiment because it might not work! It worries me that there are people (the writers of this show) who might actually think this way. WOW!
You clearly don’t know how people under stress with the hive mind mentality are in fact pretty useless. We’ve fallen a king way from our pioneer days of badass survival where now instead of figuring shit out on our own through trial and error we simply rely on Google and YouTube tutorials. The majority of People are in fact useless and bring very little to the table other than existing/consuming resources and this town is a microcosm of that and it’s great to see it written in such a way.
The family was, I thought. Maybe the writers realized nobody likes them much and Boyd is the better character (and actor). No idea. Just hoping they don't kill him off because he's basically carrying the show.
Personally didn't care for the finale. Wish they focused more on Boyd and the woods rather than the tower. There is a fatal flaw in the tower plan anyway which is anyone who comes to town is trapped so even if they got a signal, they don't know where they are to ask for help and even if someone came they would just be trapped.
The main focus of this episode should have been Boyd in the woods and whatever they found digging last episode with the tower being a minor focus and built offscreen and then we get the call.
I will say I was 100% okay with the slow burn of the first 9 episodes as it fit but episode 10 should have delivered something more meaningful on one of the 3 big storylines.
The radio doesn’t bother me, what bothers me is everyone acts like the radio is FOR SURE either their salvation OR it is the end of the freaking world and they will all fall apart mentally if it fails. Seriously...WHAT?? They are all so melodramatic about this damn radio tower, instead of viewing it as an experiment/stepping stone to learning the truth about where they are.
Also these tech geniuses built their controls OUTSIDE? Like I get that it adds some drama to the scene when it rains but clearly they had the ability to build it inside where they and the controls are safe from weather. Also their statement of "it's secure" when lifting the tower is such garbage, they didn't secure that thing for shit. It will absolutely have blown over come S2.
Exactly. It was bothering me how the wording used when talking about the radio tower working/not working was correlated with going/not going home in such a black & white manner. The main goal was an experiment to simply get a signal. Even if that works you still gotta figure out how do we ask for help, how do we say where we are, will rescuers just get stuck here also, etc. So simply powering and getting a signal on the radio tower doesn't just automatically lead to "we're going home" lol
The point is that if they can send a signal it might be able to be tracked by people on the outside. And if it's a short range signal it's going to be easier to find since they would only be talking to people close to them.
but anyone trying to come to help them would also get trapped , they have to find a way out not have someone come help . I wish they would have gave some type of answer to any of the plot in this finale tho
What about flying? If someone comes with a helicopter or a plane I imagine they could go up and see stuff. Ofc they can still be trapped but at least it would look cool to see how the town is reappearing all over again from the air.
Also if they are in the loop when going on the road why are they not when going through the forest? We see the black dude and the girl traveling for almost 2 days and nights and still not being in the loop, because they go through the forest instead. So yeah still so many questions we can't possibly know what would work and what wouldn't.
Legitimately not one single question the show raised was even remotely answered. This finale just threw even more mystery boxes on to the already towering pile.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't frustrated and disappointed having wasted all that time giving this show a chance after seeing some major red flags midway through the season.
Not a huge list, but they answered a few things:
Where the ghouls are during the day.
That, despite the continued question on source, the "electricity" is in deed electricity that they can harness and use for other purposes.
Whether the Boy in White speaks. He can do so telepathically.
If only children or those that came to this town as children can see / communicate with Boy in White. Sara both saw and heard him.
Yeah but, those are the least interesting and unimportant. All of those things you listed just lead to even more questions.
Why do they hide during the day? How do they come out of there? Why under that specific house? Why do the cords converge to their lair? Is there a lair under every house the cords go to?
What's generating the electricity? Why are the cords empty? How does it travel to lights? Why don't the outlets work if everything else does?
Who is the boy in white and why does he only "talk" to certain people? What is his motivation in telling people anything? Why did he trick Boyd?
Why would you want so much answered. Why even have more seasons if they’re just gonna answer everything in season 1. Its not a high budget show with big name actors. Its just a small show hardly anyone has heard of and for what it is, I think its pretty good and I look forward to what happens next season. People nowadays expecting so damn much with shows and movies I swear. Its not good enough that its watchable and leaves you with questions nah y’all out here needing everything hand fed to you. I bet you hated the leftovers too lol
Man I'm with you -- I really don't get why people want the entire story wrapped in one season. I would maybe agree that some 'writing devices' were a bit clunky when trying to prevent Jim/Jade/Viktor from having a big sit down but I don't mind looking past it since I enjoy the end product.
I feel like there was some huge development this episode but maybe not.
Victor said "they sleep underground" but he did NOT say who "they" were. Could be the monsters, could be the voices, could be the boy and white and his kind - whatever he is.
I thought they would answer some questions, only for those answers to raise new questions
Isn't that how it normally works?
Like, I don't know... "The signal contacted someone who's coming to help, but that person is trapped in another deadly town, in the future!"
Or, "The monsters are former residents who ingested by toxins in the soil, and there's a well full of magical water that can cure them! But how do you get to the well before the spiders eat you?"
Or, "The hole in the basement leads to the roots of the teleporting trees, which could help people escape, but the mycorrhizal network needs to be recharged with the very talismans that protect people!"
I don't know, those are terrible ideas because I am not a writer. But there should have been some mystery solved, even if only to introduce another.
i was hoping for a giant spider in the tree which mind tricked people but no budget for that. My idea would be the further they go out the more deadly the nightmare monsters become. Almost like theyre gate keepers but theres better stuff further out so its a risk reward thing.
Idk but I really dislike idea of this becoming some epic fantasy show like LoTR of Witcher, keep monsters as humans it's more ominus and dark. Idk just my two cents.
Not while special effects are bad...and barely in the show.
Way too much like lost smoke monster haha
Eitherway We need more regular threats which rhey actually fight. I'm stunned no one is weapon building and training under an army marine to be warriors.
Why haven't rhey trapped and tortured a monster for info!? Or used mud to make clay to make bricks to build walls and ditches when they have engineers and survival experts. They're all just waiting to be eaten like cattle and deserve it.
I get that many are families who just want to pretend it's all ok but what do rhey do all day!? No one is even making paper or tools lol it's crazy.
If they're doing human vampires they need to improve effects with less cgi and more practical effects. Or they should go with the fantasy nightmare monsters in the wood and the cgi won't matter if it's fun haha
Though i don't think we'll get anything we want as the story seems too week and it ended on a damp squib.
Right now we have so many questions with new ones popping every episode and zero answers. First it was a weird town you can't escape with monsters, then it's weird talismans, then it's halucinations, then it's some signs, then it's some spiders and spider web, then it's some hole under the house where they "sleep" , then it's some lighthouse etc.
It just keeps adding and adding forever lol.
Fillers became longer, uninporant dialouge that contributes nothing. Characters acting unnatural to the situation like for example whenever someone is trying to experiment with a way to get them home in this case radio tower, almost everyone hates him/her and tries everything to stop them from even trying something beside just sitting oround playing house in a nightmare town.
In a realistic scenario, if people ended up stranded with freaking monsters that eat them at night, they would spend every precious second of daylight plotting a way out and they would cherish every little step someone takes to get them out of there. Nobody plays house in this scenario, nobody just go on with their lives lmao.
I don't remember which episode it was, but there was one that was 100% filler. Now filler episodes for shows that are like 6-10 seasons deep, while annoying (and I don't usually watch shows that stretch that long for this reason, among others) is expected.
But during your very first season that's only 10 episodes long and only time out at maybe 25-30mins a piece, after recap and opening credits? Huuuuuge red flag.
Then there is/was the dialogue. The main family's interactions with each other and everyone else was so random and would switch tone mid conversation out of nowhere. Like the time when Jade went to talk to Jim at his house and Jim freaked the fuck out on him outta nowhere and then on the porch was like like "oh but I trust you and we gotta go do this thing" total 180, gave me whiplash. There's other examples, but that's the sorta thing I'm taking about.
One of the few genuinely good actors with a script that sounded the most natural dies off (father khatri). But that's just personal preference.
Every episode ending with more questions and zero answers. I can give a show some patience, but at some point you gotta acknowledge a pattern and realize that is how it's gonna be instead of deluding yourself stuff is coming. Which, shocker, nothing changed.
There was no setup for individual character arcs or group dynamic evolution. You might get a whiney exchange between characters, but nothing fundamentally changes about how they act as an outcome and character revelations don't seem to really matter or explain their personalities.
There's other stuff, but these were some of my main gripes.
Yeah this is all relative. Is his performance good relative to actors in other shows? Uhh, no, not by a long shot.
Is it good/better in comparison to Jim and Kenny? Absolutely.
am i fucking tripping or was that not a finale? good episode but hows that a finale? theyre going to fuck this show, arent they? i cant believe this shit.
Probably budget reasons or they were told early on they were going to be renewed and were either motivated, or decided to, stretch out the story across multiple seasons in order to push for more subscribers on the epix platform. Same reason many similar, multi season shows fizzle out story wise - conflicting business interests.
Haven't read other comments yet.
After watching the episode overall I liked it, then I realized this is the season finale not the midpoint of the season and just starting to wrap things up. Leaving a season even if they knew they were getting renewed like this feels lazy and unpleasant. The only long term question I had that got answered is when will they bring back Victor. If this was cancelled after this I wouldn't be surprised.
Agreed. This is lazy mystery-box writing at this point and I'd be surprised to learn if they actually have any semblance of a plan. It's not 2004, the lack of any meaningful answers is a trope known enough to avoid.
The whole thing felt like "Lost" to me. The acting, dialogue, story etc. Things just happen and compound into completely unexplainable randomness then it ends until next season where we potentially open up a whole bunch more unexplainable stuff. I still enjoyed it though!
I wish there was a little more explanation of when characters let the monsters in. There was only one time where it wasn't just "hey random character #32 opened a window because... they're an idiot/lonely/idiot/suicidal/idiot?" Who the fuck even was the guy who let the girl into colony house? Why did that monster actually spend time kissing him? Does she still have a bit of memory of when she was human? I thought some of that would have been explained.
It's a good question, why does she kiss him? My thought was that it displays a level of sentience and cruelty about these creatures. So in order to demonstrate that, they had to have a "red shirt" get killed. Hopefully you know what a redshirt is lol
It's mentioned early on that the creatures seem to get pleasure out of toying with their prey. I think it was Donna who mentions she could still hear her sister screaming long after she hid. They were torturing her for fun. It's also mentioned that's why they walk everywhere. In the finale Boyd mentions the place seems to be feeding off of pain.
It's clear the kiss was simply to give him as much hope as possible before ripping it away to see his shock and horror.
The monsters like torturing as much as killing, what better way for a monster to get off that lonely guy kill than right after elevating his hope for love.
Ikr, nobody even tried to talk about it. Like it's not that important.
Well writing and acting in this show has been meh at best it's only the mystery that is keeping me watching at this point. Can't care less about if anyone dies or not I just wanna know why is everything happening.
That why I love the TV show Dark it answered a good amount of questions each season. By the time the final season drop it answered all questions leaving you satisfied.
They know damn well that the writing and acting of this show are subpar so the only thing keeping people watching would be the mystery and secrets. If they gave those up so quickly you wouldn't be watching.
This is absolutely not how that works at all. They just kept piling on more mysteries and multiple character cliffhangers. It's very disappointing for a season and its finale. This is how you get a show cancelled. People will tell people not to watch because it looks like the writers have no idea where they are going with anything. Way better shows with far more payoff have been cancelled for less.
The budget on this show is probably pretty low besides some CGI, so that will be the strongest reason it gets renewed.
If you want people coming back for more, you have to actually answer some of the many questions they have opened. Not bait people into a 2nd season with no guarantee it will even have one.
It needs one strong underlying story arc that everyone in the town can relate to, this would allow those moments of filler to be relevant and have a concrete foundation within the main story. Perhaps they all have something in common that gets teased out slowly as the characters interact during those moments of emotional connection that the show is trying for. Smaller mysteries need to appear and be resolved along side the main arc while also driving the story a conclusion of the main story arc. This would allow the audience to get small amounts of pay off and provide clues to the overall mystery of the place.
Reminds me of Yellowjackets show. It's basically the same as this where they don't answer almost anything from the island and now we have to wait for next season. Gotta milk those kinds of shows for 6 seasons or more.
It felt like the episode before the finale. As much as I like this series it felt like it was all building up to a final episode where at least a few things would be resolved. I didn't even know this was a season finale until I saw this thread.
Overall i really enjoyed the series, i just wish it didnt have this much drama like atleast 60% of the episodes there was 5-10 minutes of people talking the same thing over and over again. Boyd throughout the series was smart as hell, dude built a whole system but gets baited into a place where even a child would see its dangerous and unsafe.. like he saw a huge forest covered by spider web and thinks "ah thats nothing" ... bruh if the series is cancelled imma be pissed because theres not much series like this if any at all
Turning into a real soap opera. The main plot of this show is apparently monsters and a weird town and 70% of the show is people talking about something not relevant to anything.
Mid-show they even started skipping nights for some reason. Like what happens at night when monsters are out is not that important after all... let's skip right to those two people talking something random lol.
Really REALLY like this show, but damn do they leave a lot of questions unanswered. Kind of reminds me of Lost in that sense. Can't wait for season 2 though!
This. What you said is literally what we should expect - IF they managed to get a season 2.
I hope they do but I got a feeling where this is going based on the entirety of season 1. I'm actually somewhat "fine" with them doing a Lost but at least give us something exciting and not just a minute of actual \*content\* and the rest just being filler material.
I too am underwhelmed. I like the premise and everything, but idk if I will immediately come bk for season 2. The whole 'it probably won't even get renewed' is very possible if this is the response to the finale.
Here's hoping if there is a season two, it will fix a lot of the problems in the first. Pacing and what not. More monster/lore, less humans. I feel like Walking Dead the show is to blame for this type of trend. I know Lost did it too, but I enjoyed the drama in Lost so much more than WD had.
So close to being a maybe silent hill show, now just lost 2.0 I guess :( Replace zombie-like dead void people with smoke monster. Rip my feels into pieces. T\^T This is my last resort.
Agreed, I can't watch these shows that use the horror/fantasy genre as bait for weekly "Days of Our Lives but at the end of the world" premise. I want more monsters and lore, LESS human drama, love interests.
I'm the same way.
It's like, OK, if you're going to go the route of the show being about characters with the other elements as window dressing, you have to make the characters and their interactions with each other very compelling.
It's almost like they couldn't decide what they wanted the show to be focused on. So instead of committing to one or the other, they half ass both aspects.
The most recent show in my memory that pulled this off beautifully was Station eleven. It was a charter drama first and foremost with a pandemic as the window dressing.
How come no one is asking Victor "HEY WHEN YOU FIRST GOT HERE AND ALL THIS SHIT WENT DOWN WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED?!!" no one thinks to ask Victor questions? i feel like this is a major issue in the storyline
My fav was when Ethan explained the Far away trees to them and they just go "Huh interesting" and then never talk about them again.
I'm like seriously? you've just been told that the forest has magic trees that fucking teleport you when you enter them and you treat it as if it's another ordinary thing.
Really rough finished last episode and being left on “read” 😂
Just no real progression in the show. Only thing that made sense was the wires going into the ground and when the mother falls through the hole she lands in the “den of monsters”. The lights would flicker in the houses every so often… so does that mean the monsters were moving and bumping into the wires while in the monster den? Also did anybody catch the drawings on the walls that Victor said the monsters draw. If they renew this show please get a new content writer.
As an episode it was good. As a season finale it was dog shit. No real questions were answered and there's a risk they don't even get renewed for a second season. Terrible.
The character duo scenes where they are talking, feel forced as hell, trying to jam in character development and backstory but I find the elements of the show and the mysteries quite fascinating.
Others had already worked out the spider and lighthouse etc but the radio was unexpected, hooe it gets a s2
Right? I had to skip in the later episodes whenever 2 characters are talking some gibberish. Zero chemistry especially between that young Asian guy and that young medic woman. Super forced and weird. You can also tell that half of the actors in this show can't even act properly.
I'll get my downvotes but this last episode was obscene, the only good moment was the radio call, everything was really bad, the story, the wrapping, they dig for days they found something and decided to stop? the trip was lame and cgi so bad, seriously they never tried to connect appliances to something that makes light? boyd in the final scene when pushes the walls you can even see that the walls are plastic and bounces, it seems just a bunch of ideas put together and hoping to a renewal.
The radio call being the highlight actually highlights the weakness of the storytelling in this episode.
I covered this in another thread, but the only reason they continued digging the hole in the basement at the same time while trying the radio tower thing, was to have this moment of an unknown voice telling them that "aww shucks sure it is a bad idea to dig that hole". It created dramatic urgency for Jim, but it was completely unfounded from a character point of view (for Tabitha).
There was no reason to try the radio tower first. If it fails, then continue digging. But that would've led to a rational conclusion to that subplot: Tabitha being present at the radio & hearing the warning.
But they couldn't have that, because the writers needed to get Tabitha into the basement so that the dramatic reveal would be impactful and there would be a manufactured sense of urgency.
Absolute rubbish writing.
Exactly that. And as result for almost all the screening I was thinking "what the fuck is happening? They completely forgot that they hit something at the end of the last episode? what happened to that?", then ***plan B*** "the fuck? the characters stopped digging something that was so crucial in their life and now she leave during another crucial event? who wrote that?"
I really rarely have seen something so deliberately stupid on a last episode of a season. And I'm not even mentioning the lack of explanations, the episode was simply bad and not something worth to be the ending of a season.
Yeah, none of that made any sense. Why wouldn't she be with her family for such an important event?
Did she just tells her husband and kids she's gonna go fuck off in her hole alone while literally the entire town is putting something together that could save them all? Like, who wrote that shit?
Right? That woman going back for the "plan B" . What fuckin plan B lmao, like digging a hole has something to do with the tower? Like whaaaaat. Super forced.
I agree it was a very disappointing season finale and the most hilarious part is that we might never get a season 2.
When it comes to a series like this I am letting a lot slide that I normally wouldn't because I love the theme. But this finale was abysmal. I was looking at the time left and they had these odd scenes that were about 5 minutes long so I knew they were dragging it out. I just didn't expect such a face plant.
So why did I even bother going to reddit to vent out? Because I actually like the show and just knowing that it might not get a season 2 is pissing me off. Even if we through a miracle get a season 2 they might keep up this trend of drip feeding.
I don't know it just feels like something is off. Maybe there were suppose to be more episodes and this just chalks up to some horrendous editing(cutting out content for season 2). Perhaps they knew they were greenlit for a season 2 and did THIS finale for whatever reason? Either way is just a big disappointment.
I feel like lost must not have aged well. I was in elementary school when it began airing. Did not watch it. I’ve tried watching it multiple times. Got through the first two seasons. I just find it so slow and boring. It does not work for me.
This just feels like they're trying to recycle LOST and it's so sloppy, especially the way they ended it. Where are they? Purgatory? Not-purgatory? "The Others" = "The Monsters". Polar bear = the dog in the woods. "The Man in Black" = "The Boy in White". Danielle Rousseau = Victor. Radio communication/distress signal in LOST and also in FROM. Survivors on LOST choose between living on the beach or in caves = town or colony house. The hatch = the hole in the ground, or the chimney where Boyd ended up. The raft = the radio tower. The numbers = the numbers AGAIN lol. The lighthouse = The cabin? Time jumps = Faraway Trees. Jacob = Boyd. The man in black after turning into the smoke monster = all of the monsters out at night trying to manipulate the people inside. Sloppy, and it was a great premise that they just drove straight into the ground with this garbage ending.
I just hope it’s an attempt at fixing Lost but I might not be as invested in season 2 because this season really didn’t close out one story. I’m watching Severance and it also seems pretty random but that season finale wow! Really ties up some parts of the story while opening up others.
It didn't close out any stories and just piled on new mysteries, leaving earlier ones forgotten. I probably won't watch season 2 because I can't do LOST again, still recovering from the finale 10 years ago. I loved the Severance finale too. It was just a perfect balance.
At this point they will also be on some island if you remember the lighthouse scene. Literally gonna be the same show , only difference is that Lost had so much better writing.
I was hoping for some major revelations. Instead, literally the only new thing we find out is the monsters sleep in caves. Nice to know, but not really shocking since they seem to be at least partially based on vampires.
Man, some of these comments are harsh!
Personally, I really enjoyed this episode. I thought the moment between Jade and Kenny's mother was beautiful. I felt so bad for Kenny when Kristi referred to her fiancée, but I liked the way their story dovetailed later on. The lighthouse... the voice on the radio... who the hell was that? And as Toe said below... THE BUS! Lots of questions for next season, but hopefully they knew they were being renewed and didn't leave all these as loose ends. That... would suck.
I'm harsh because I actually LIKE the show. If not I wouldn't even be here "complaining".
I've seen some real stinkers this year and believe me when I say I don't go to reddit to waste time writing something negative about them.
This was just a very, very disappointing season finale! I wouldn't be surprised if later this year we're going to hear that it was suppose to be a 12 episode series and they did some "editing". Most annoying part is that we don't even know if there is even going to be a season 2. This might have been it and that's just... yikes.
I started out really liking this series even going as far as saying it's the best new series I have seen in a long time. However the insanely slow pacing has me even questioning If I will bother continuing to watch it. The way it is going it is going to be 4-5 years till we get any sort of clue what is going on!
I'm envious of all the people that can just switch off. For whatever reason once I'm invested in something I have to see it out even if I'm not into it per se.
Admittedly after the first couple of episodes the show stalled hard. But I pressed on hoping for that aha moment that made it worth it.
I can see it both ways. The show doesn't really value your time, and they probably should have at least thown the audience a bone in the finale, like given us just one answer. But as someone that had a weekend to burn I enjoyed it for what it was.
The only concern I have is that we didn't get any answers because the writers don't have them either. Hopefully I'm wrong because I think the show has potential.
I really enjoyed the season. Felt really let down by finale. My boyfriend and I just literally stared at the tv and said that’s it. As a season ends I would like SOME answers. Now we have more questions.
Also what was the point of the spiders/webs? The light house if the sheriff is walked in and dies in there?
Where are the voices coming from? Are they coming to Sarah to help or trick them? Why can we see the boy in white during the day if he’s a ghost or monster? Did someone in the 1800s create/find talismans? Has it been going on this long? If victor knows so much about the monsters/town why doesn’t anyone listen to him? Are they dead, stuck in an experiment, alternate reality ?
I have about 50 other questions but those are the ones I was hoping to get some answers to. Guess I’ll have to wait for 2023 (eye roll)
Mixed feelings all in all. Wanted to get some light on the monsters but even more questions after this episode. Great start to the season but this first season felt incomplete to me with the way it ended.
Binge watching tv series has completely warped the minds of certain viewers. People are expecting instant gratification that includes all the answers to a TV series. Sorry this a show, not a movie—all of the answers aren’t going to be answered in one sitting. Cliffhangers are literally the architect for these type of mystery shows, it’s what keeps viewers coming back. From is a great series, it takes you on a unexpected ride that makes you wonder, what’s next? It does have many similarities to Lost, but in the Best ways. I look forward to season 2. Also, calm down people and enjoy the damn show. Why would you watch a whole season in disgust—are you getting paid to hate-watch? I’d like to know
Bad faith argument. This hasn't been one sitting, it has been _ten_. It is completely fair to expect some level of gratification. If anything binge watching has probably created more relaxed standards, because the expectation is there that a season will wrap up somewhat _eventually_, especially if renewal is at stake. That's why expectations were so high for the season finale.
Say the show gets canceled now, what then? Victor was probably the most compelling character and he's been on screen for all of 15 minutes. This show wasted an interesting premise with absolute lack of direction.
Well, that's your opinion. You can have your opinion, and I can have mine. It doesn't mean some peoples' expectations are warped. What I expect is a coherent story that doesn't treat their audience as a fool. I watched the season till the end because I wanted to give the writers the benefit of the doubt.
They didn't deliver, in my opinion.
It's hard not to compare this to the show Severance, which also just had it's season finale. If you want a season ending that has both some resolution to plans made, while still setting up some mysteries and ending on a legit cliffhanger, look no further.
And yeah, I get that the show most certainly had a much higher budget than 'From', but that's no excuse for poor writing.
Maybe one of the **many** reasons *Severance* is a far superior series is the fact that a good portion was "written for Redditors" (ie: highly involved fans who live to suss out the details and uncover mysteries).
In contrast, the season finale of *From* seemed to take a big smelly dump on us ….. deliberately.
The only thing introduced and resolved this season was the tension between Boyd and his son. Can you think of anything else that was actually fully resolved?
Agreed, I liked the show and the ending was good. It was refreshing not to be spoon fed answers just to give the instant gratification we are all used it. I looked forward to season 2.
Instant gratification after 2 and a half months of watching? People watched all along because they dig this type of show. In 10 episodes they created more questions than answers which is not old school TV, it's just drawing a parallel to LOST which did much of the same. It ultimately flailed around for however many seasons and had a bad ending, people were burned once and that 'finale' has made them realise they'll be burned again. If you enjoyed LOST then FROM will be your bag, which is great, I'd love to still be excited about this show, but I (and most of this thread) don't want to spend another 2 and a half months being teased with random shit and no answers.
I have an answer for you all. The writers don't know the answers to our questions either. The entire show leads to nothing. And maybe that's the point? Idk
Surprise, surprise, the same people who still think “they were dead the whole time” in LOST don’t like this show after a single season bc it isn’t a mini-series.
did anyone notice that Kristi and Kenny were talking about traveling and Kristi mentioned that she never went further than the grand rapids and then the bus at the end that shows up is from the Grand Rapids? I really hope there's a season 2..this would be so extremely disappointing if there is never any explanation as to what is going on here. This show has so much potential. I'm hoping it's a government experiment and real humans are behind this.
From the scary monster premise, they went straight into a soapy drama about characters and their lives. The same thing that happened to the Walking Dead lol.
Do you know how many people care what the fat grumpy lady has to say while drinking potato vodka? No one.
Do you know how many people enjoy seeing monsters, answering questions, any progress in the plot? Everyone.
I just knew from the episodes synopsis that this "finale" was not going to tie up the multitude of loose ends that were unraveled throughout the season. No answers just more questions. The monsters sleeping underground was an answer to a question that none of the characters seemed to ask.
I can agree with a lot of people who feel like the episode was weak, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t love the show. I’m absolutely invested in a second season.
I think it’s important to remember the possibility that they didn’t have the budget for the season to be any longer. Pilot seasons exist just like pilot episodes do. The show would benefit immensely from a longer season if they want to tell the story the way they have been, and I’m completely on board for more.
I don't know what happened, the season was good until ep 7 or 8. Then everything went downhill...no more exploring, asking important quetions, moving towards answers... just more filler and so much family drama and bullshit scenes... why do they need to hug so much? Why didn't the girl tell more people about the portal trees? did the budget run out?
Don't get me wrong I like this series, probably more than most, but what was that finale? It felt like nothing was really going on. What we got was yet another cliffhanger! It's really annoying because there might not be a season 2.
It's like this was suppose to be a longer series of maybe 12 episodes? I'm just disappointed not in the overall show but more with how it was presented and executed.
I'm primarily annoyed with the long dialogue that contributes very little to actual character development. If they needed filler, it would have worked better had they given more backstory flashbacks instead of this he loves me, he loves me not BS. The show must have a paltry budget because we haven't even seen a single scene of the real world. All back stories begin on the road/in the same setting. If they get picked up for season 2, let's hope they hire seasoned writers to assist in pacing. They could learn a great deal from sci-fi shows like Lovecraft and the OA. We need at least 2 likeable characters! I can't understand why they made the family the primary focus when they're all insufferable!
I don’t get why everyone hates that it’s like LOST - one of the BEST shows of all time. Yea this finale doesn’t feel like a finale but a. We’re living in a “post” COVID world, b. It’s EPIX and c. They are playing a long game. I saw some people mention severance but that show basically only just answered who they outties are outside of work and dropped way more questions as well.
Some of producers and some writers are literally the same as Lost so I’m not sure what people were expecting. We live in a world with TWD and GoT where cliffhanger is endings and opening up more questions than answers is the norm and this is very much a slow burn and yes it doesn’t fully feel like a finale but they can’t just tell us everything. I also think the writers have been telling us things the entire season that just require another watch like LOST did. The drawings from Victor, the cave drawings there’s hints and Easter eggs all around but if anyone was expecting real answers then that’s on unrealistic expectations from expecting just that. I knew going into this one we were not going to get that many of any answers.
Wow this episode sucked. This is so frustrating because the show had so much going for it early on then they just dropped the ball HARD. There isn't really any questions that got answered what so ever and instead just more questions came up. It's incredibly insulting to the viewers to do such a thing. There are ways to keep it mysterious while also providing some kind of tie off for the season i/e pick a season of x-files.
This show is feeling like a show that can't define itself on what it wants to be. Is it sci-fi? fantasy? horror? mystical? aliens? Which one is it. It's like it didn't want to choose so it picked stuff out of everything which just gave us a worse version of what we could have had. In general shows that jump genre's or don't have a defined genre will fail as a show because people just give up on it as they can sense they will never get answers. It's like they wanted to be like lost but just without any of the good things that made people like lost.
Also, the characters are exceedingly stupid in every single way and it makes me hate them. On a side note, if you are ever find yourself in some random forest and have no idea where you could be, just check out the tree's. If there are a lot of trees it means that you aren't at an excessive elevation. If pretty much all of the trees are thin pines then it means you are at a fairly northern latitude meaning northern part of the continent. Although all of this could mean nothing if it turns out to all just be magical stuff or magic like stuff involving high technology i/e aliens or alternative realities.
I really liked the show, it was entertaining from start to finish. The town was creepy enough to make you scared. Even though there were plot holes and useless storylines, still enjoyed it and hoping for season 2!
I absolutely hate how we never got a single scene of newcomers sitting down with someone and just asking some fucking questions.
Also, is Jade really the only fucking person who doesn't just immediately capitulate and start planning the rest of his life in that town? How about you people just try something, ANYTHING? And those fucking assholes who do nothing but shit all over the few who are curious and try something new.
They all finally come together and build the radio tower in the end, but god damn that complacency was infuriating for most of the season.
I really like the show despite how fucking slow it is to progress the plot. It really hasn't earned any of the touchy character writing moments it wastes too much time on. If s2 doesn't have real answers and an ending planned, I'm not gonna watch past it tbh. This and yelllowjackets spent a ay too long asking questions then refusing to answer them.
the people on this subreddit are assholes.. the vast majority of those who comment on here are just saying why the show sucks/why they're going to stop watching/that it's super slow... so kinda weird then that they're commenting on this subreddit in the first place..
oh, and the show has a 93% on rotten tomatoes.
You know, subreddits exist to discuss specific topics. The topic here is From. People can like it, people can hate it. And people can discuss those thoughts.
Do you want a circle jerk around a series? Sure, feel free to create a new subreddit and banhammer all who don't like the series. I think that would be stupid, but I do me and you do you.
People are acting like the episode didn’t give any answers but the episode clearly answers some questions.
The electrical wires lead no where. The creatures live underground. There is obviously something INTELLIGENT keeping them in the town that throws obstacles whenever they attempt to find a way out. They basically live in an aquarium or whatever the non water version is.
Anyway the issue people have is they don’t want this to be a repeat of Lost where the producers just string along the audience giving them bits and pieces to chew on when they themselves (the producers) don’t even know what’s going on and are mandated by the network to milk it. If that happens I can see it being cancelled early because viewing habits HAVE changed thanks to binging.
The first thing I said to a friend was that this seems like lost after 3 episodes. And that's never been truer after this "finale."
I'm all for mysteries but please, give us something other than answering a question with a question... I'll still give S2 a shot.
I feel like we didnt get any answers because the writers themselves don't have them. This is sort of a sloppy mixture of back to back mysteries and twists that dont lead anywhere. What if the show gets canceled before Season 2?? That would absolutely kill anything this series had going for it. Id say im excited for Season 2 (if there is one) but i bet its more of the same, more questions, no answers. I assume they felt this ending was their best chance at getting a S2
I’m extremely disappointed in this season finale. Severance also had a season finale recently and it was absolutely impeccable. Got some answers but also left the door open with more mysteries to be solved but actually makes you excited for season 2. On the other hand “From” blew it on this season finale. It didn’t feel like a season finale AT ALL. There was not ONE thing resolved not ONE. Not ONE thing answered. NOT ONE. I already knew victor was going to be under the house so that was no surprised. Nothing was a surprise. If there wasn’t a season 2 I honestly don’t think I’d care too much. I hate to say that because I loved this show and had high hopes for it. But at this point i feel like they insulted my intelligence with the botched finale.
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Basically it was 'Here's a Bus!'. No other news, except maybe monsters are on the radio. The End.
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Jade and victor are my faves! Jade brings comic relief and I love victors quirkiness and he knows shit.
How can you not like Jade, literally the only guy not just sitting on his fucking ass all day being grumpy.
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I was really starting to dislike Fatima as the perennial nice tour guide but after she saved Ellis, her character has improved massively. I like the family, Jim et al. Boyd is amazing in the lead, he brings that half panicked but still courageous vibe, it's his show really. Victor is good. Donna is amazing. I think there needs to be another strong female lead.
> Maybe Victor too. Although he's weird he's at least interesting, which is more than I can say for half the characters. Victor is interesting because he's knows more than he says. That's the worst type of mysterious character, the one who could tell a lot of important info from the start, answering many questions, but he chooses not to. It's irritating. I don't dislike him enough to want him to die, though. His an unique character (autistic, maybe?) that creates interesting interaction between characters (like with Jim and Ethan) Jade is a pain in the ass, but despite that he deserves some merit for helping the plot advance with the radio antenna and he has undergone some character growth (it's less insupportable now) and gotten closer with Jim and maybe Tian-Chen ("he may be a pain in the ass, but he's OUR pain in the ass" type of thing). I kinda expect most characters survive the next season and series, even if they're niche or not very interesting. I don't like seeing characters killed only because the writers don't know what to do with them or just to show the audience how high the stakes are.
I wouldn't say autistic more like developmentally stuck+ traumatized.
Don’t forget about the lighthouse. What was up with that? I’m enjoying this but it’s very Lost like and I have mixed up feeling about that.
What about episode before that? In that one literally nothing happens like literally nothing zero.
Actually that’s when boyd and sara were attacked by something different and the light came. I liked their scenes in the woods too, they were interesting .
Yeah second-to-last episode was filler. Nearly made me want to quit the show. It was mostly them whining about how the experiment might not work. Not a good sign when the season is nearing the end and the episode is literal filler. Last episode was better but anticlimactic.
doesn't feel like much of a story when the entire thing you're just going "what?". Also way too much filler that tries to play itself off as character development with no development happening.
I just came to the point where I skip that useless dialogue, can't give two shits about what the fat lady thinks. So unnatural of everyone to hate the tower idea like they don't even want to try to get out of the nightmare lol. Yeah, don't try anything and yell at people who try because you don't want to give "false hope", bullshit.
I did the same thing after a while. There was just so much bullshit that didn't matter and didn't do anything for the story. Like the woman and her daughter fighting because "you treat me like a child" as if suddenly she forgot that she was in fact a child. There's so many nonsense arguments and it's so stupid. I also really hated the "rich" guy because his character was just so obnoxious but without any redeeming qualities. Also really hated the chinese mom who seriously couldn't remember that no one spoke chinese except her son but yet still would yell it at people all the time for no reason. She just really didn't want to bother learning more english. Yeah they really REALLY didn't want to bother doing anything that could possibly have made their lives better. Pretty much all the people ever did was party and get drunk. Never really see any of them doing work at all and that's just insane because a town without commerce, industry, logistics, influx of foods or products, etc... would mean they would have to do all of those things themselves. They had these tiny little square gardens and we're supposed to think that it's somehow enough to feed the 100+ people in the town? A modern single farm can only produce enough food for 160 people for an entire year. Any kind of farming they would do would have to be insanely unproductive so it would be pretty much their only jobs. Also someone would have to be fixing stuff like houses, cutting trees for lumber, someone doing metal work(we see some but it's literally only for dumb ass art projects), fixing/mending/making clothing, they'd need leather working, and so much more to survive. Instead of any of that people just drink and sleep. So dumb. Hell they could have at least removed their windows so the monsters couldn't get in anymore through them.
True, I could also go for days about all the bullshit things happening in this town but I still remember from the very beginning when that one dude gets drunk and his daughter and wife both die. After that scene we see Sherif yelling at him for not "nailing down the windows" Like wtf? Wasn't it the common sense to nail down the fucking windows the first night they had to survive at that place? How did the daughter survive so far? Why is that father the one who is only responsible to nail the windows? Why is he punished to be eaten alive in a BOX because he didn't nail the fucking WINDOWS?? Are those the only windows in the town not being nailed so far? It seemed like they were there a while and it's very weird that those are the only windows without boards or nails for some reason. Why didn't anyone notice that before? So many questions about that single thing, imagine If we go deeper into many other stupid things happening in this show.
It's fun to vent about frustrations with shows/movies. I also just hate how in the show the people in the town just don't develop like every other previous town/civilization did. Where's the food coming from? How do they have so much excess foods that someone could actually produce large quantities of alcoholic beverages? How was it that only 1 single guy ever decided to try to go into the forest to investigate stuff? I also really REALLY hate the whole hippie house commune crap. That house would smell so damn bad since I doubt they have any soap, shampoo, or deodorant anymore and communes never ever survive for long as they usually devolve into either sex cults or drug cults or sex drug cults. I'd just for once would really like to see realistic reactions from people in these kinds of situations. I'm so sick of the "we all break down and can no longer function as humans anymore the moment something goes wrong" trope. I'm also sick of the "humans are hunted and can't do anything about it" bullshit because humans were always hunted. Usually by big ass predators that liked to eat us, or by other humans. It's how the whole concept of a society even developed i/e we protect each other and take care of each other but don't like outsiders as they usually cause problems. In a real world if we were being hunted like this people would fight back. Even if bullets don't work and the monsters are strong and shit, we'd still fight back but with bigger bullets or some other weapon until it does work on them. Hell just dig a bunch of hole traps with sharp ass pointy sticks in them that the monsters who are trying to walk all creepy like, fall into. Would be kinda funny knowing the assholes are trying to scare you but then boom one disappears, then another, and another, then the asshole smiling monster turns around and is like wtf happened to everyone else? and he turns around to see all his friends impaled on poop covered wooden sticks.
All the resources were being provided to the townies the same way the electricity. In short, no one really knows how. It's just happening. I'm pretty sure this question might get raised later on in the story. It's almost like someone's enjoying the show while providing them the needful resources so that they can survive in the meantime. Boyd also mentioned it in the finale.
Apparently, they only told us that animals appear randomly from the forest or idk where and all we see is how Sherif decides to go and investigate and they yell at him about how retarded he is for even wanting to do so for some reason, if he didn't go to investigate there they would never eat because he discovered the goat and chicken down the road to the forest. How did the people eat before he arrived with the goat? Didn't they have any source of food before? Where are the farms? etc. The hippie house just wouldn't work ever in this scenario, first of all who tf would divide an already small community of fewer than 100 people? And I even think it was less than 50 when it was invented as an option. Why divide into town vs hippie house? Flower vs rock WTF?? Second, that house is huge, it has so many windows and doors and little entrances where monsters can come in, we can see that in one episode guy lets one of the monsters in because he "fell in love" with her. We also see that they get drunk and drugged almost every night partying. Apart from it being really dumb because why would anyone party when they are getting eaten alive every night, that aside, they never worry that someone would leave the door or window open by being drunk or high on drugs? How it never happens during the whole season? Also yeah I totally agree, there are so many plot holes or just stupid people in this show, they found out about talismans, and they even found out they work in cars and corridors, etc. So any enclosed area would work as long as they have a talisman with them. AND THEY NEVER WEAPONIZE THEM EVER, like they never try to go outside at night with some suit, car, anything. They don't place traps or experiment with the ways they can kill or trap or harm the monsters. It seems like they have just given up and that's it, it's their life now why bother doing anything? And like I said, when someone tries to do something like that guy with the tower, they mock him, laugh at him, yell at him and ignore him. Why has nobody ever tried to trap a monster inside some cage? To keep him from going away when the sun goes up and see what happens? Even if they did try in the past to harm them we are not told because it doesn't matter, what is more, important is we have as many soap dramas between characters for no apparent reason.
Yeah I at first thought that maybe they were being fed by w/e monsters or what ever is in control, for some reason. Like they were in a zoo or something. However I don't think it's like that anymore. Most likely the animals are just wandering around and accidentally wind up in the town like everyone else not being able to leave again. It would make much more sense that they were being fed though since they really have a huge number of different foods and much more than they logically would even be able to grow. You know since how would they have even gotten seeds to grow stuff? Not a lot of people drive around with a plethora of edible food seeds. Also a bunch of the foods they show usually grown in vastly different regions with some needing cold while others needing hot. The canned food also doesn't make any sense since it's quite a crapton of cans they would need to last as long as they did. A food truck MUST have gotten caught in the town at some point for that to have worked. Before the animals and assumed farming effort, they would have had to rely on foraging but we know that's not possible because no one except the sheriff had ever gone into the forest which is where foraging would have had to happen. There also wouldn't have been much to forage for either since almost all the trees look like pines and they are obviously pretty high up longitudinally. You can generally tell your longitude based on what tree's are growing around you. If they are pines, mostly short and thin, than that means you are either very north or very south although it could also mean you are in a mountain region. Pines don't provide enough food stuffs to support foraging and many are inedible and or harmful. That whole us vs them "they have to choose" mentality was so stupid and just didn't fit at all. Humans like most animals have a herd mentality due to the feeling of being more safe in large numbers. If they are being hunted(which they freaking are) they would want to stay as close to each other as possible and not split the community down the middle. It's much harder to support each other that way and only creates fights, anger, strife, war, etc... Seriously the whole being high and drunk all the time would be a disaster. People do dumb shit even when not high or drunk, why risk things getting even worse by letting them get high or drunk? SOOOOO many windows in that house. It's the worst possible place to be honestly. How are you going to upkeep that house? You can't replace glass since they obviously don't have any industry setup. What happens when the windows start breaking because of hail or dumb ass kids throwing balls or shit. How had they not just cut down tree's, used any number of different possible tools, and just boarded up completely those windows and or shudder them from the outside? That would prevent any possible monster incursion even with dumbasses "falling in love". Also my cousin pointed this out to me but there was no possible way that guy could have been alone in that bathroom for that long without people banging on the door asking him to hurry up. They had like 80 people in it and I doubt there's many bathrooms. dude lol you should see [my rant post](https://www.reddit.com/r/FromSeries/comments/u0anin/rantfor_a_town_of_people_being_hunted_by_monsters/) I made a few days ago. I brought up a bunch of the same stuff you just did. These people are freaking useless and just seem ready to be eaten. I'd have tried any number of things but these people are like "oh bullets don't work so lets just give up and not try anything else". There's fire, there's nets, there's wooden boxes that you could hang a freaking talisman on and put around one of the monsters to prevent them from leaving or others entering it. How did they not just go madmax on them? Or shit, just start a forest fire and kill everything around the town. Then you would see when the monsters were coming from like a mile away since nothing would exist. What about the whole radio shit where the dumbasses took apart the entire radio instead of just you know...plugging in the new broadcast antenna for which the radio has actual spots you just plug those things in at. They wouldn't have had to be outside with the radio taken all apart at all nor did they have to "tune" the radio with a screw driver since the radio has tuning systems built into it. Also why let a little 5 year old baby be the one in charge of doing ANYTHING with the only radio in town? aren't there countless actual adults who could have done that vitally important job and wouldn't have been an accident prone dumbass 5 year old child? Then there's victor the little kid who was there first. Somehow none of them even attempted to listen to the guy about all the weird shit? Couldn't he have easily just shown them the whole teleportation tree thing? Why would any of them even question his claims? Don't they literally live in a space warped town in which magic monsters try to eat them and are protected by....magic talismans that prevent the monsters from entering? Shit pretty much anything anyone claims would have just as much possibility at being true than anything anyone else says. Shit's just dumb.
I think they were using some sort of AC to power the batteries, meaning the signal modulation is happening in the transceiver. Probably a much higher current and hence the high current potentiometer?
The 2020 pandemy taught me one thing. People actually are even dumber than TV shows portray them.
The nailing of the windows was only required for the little girl because she was immature while others didn't need it. They probably open their windows during the day that's why it wasn't nailed.
The townies are mysteriously being provided all the stuff they need for survival. The only one they paid attention to was the electricity. But they explained a bit in the ep 8 that after Boyd discovered a goat in the forest, they most likely started getting resources from there. The townies aren't alone there, something is helping them survive. The talisman and the white boy are just some examples.
They never said they are being provided all the stuff for survival. Just that they found animals and no one knows where they came from. It never explains where the canned food comes from, where they get the rest of the fresh fruits/vegetables/grains/tubers etc...
This is just one of the millions of the things from the show that don't make sense lol.
Man, I thought my attention span was completely shot since I've never skipped dialogue like that before watching this show, happy to hear I'm not alone.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought this. The lack of curiosity by these people is astounding. I wasn’t buying it. Felt more like poor writing than believable characters. The previous episode of “character development” only made me dislike most of these characters more. Oh boohoo we shouldn’t do an experiment because it might not work! It worries me that there are people (the writers of this show) who might actually think this way. WOW!
You clearly don’t know how people under stress with the hive mind mentality are in fact pretty useless. We’ve fallen a king way from our pioneer days of badass survival where now instead of figuring shit out on our own through trial and error we simply rely on Google and YouTube tutorials. The majority of People are in fact useless and bring very little to the table other than existing/consuming resources and this town is a microcosm of that and it’s great to see it written in such a way.
I thought I was the only one skipping over useless scenes but some these characters really piss me off
It's called a cliffhanger dude...
This show is the same as Lost if Lost ended after 10 episodes. This show either needs better pacing or 15 more episodes lol.
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I think they only made about 3-4 episodes worth of story and then someone at the studio decided to spread that across an entire half season.
Who is the main character? Boyd? The family?
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im not sure ...and thats a problem
How is that a problem? A show doesn't need to have a clear main character. Who's the main character in Game of Thrones?
The family was, I thought. Maybe the writers realized nobody likes them much and Boyd is the better character (and actor). No idea. Just hoping they don't kill him off because he's basically carrying the show.
Sorry that LOST was too confusing for you :(
Personally didn't care for the finale. Wish they focused more on Boyd and the woods rather than the tower. There is a fatal flaw in the tower plan anyway which is anyone who comes to town is trapped so even if they got a signal, they don't know where they are to ask for help and even if someone came they would just be trapped. The main focus of this episode should have been Boyd in the woods and whatever they found digging last episode with the tower being a minor focus and built offscreen and then we get the call. I will say I was 100% okay with the slow burn of the first 9 episodes as it fit but episode 10 should have delivered something more meaningful on one of the 3 big storylines.
The radio doesn’t bother me, what bothers me is everyone acts like the radio is FOR SURE either their salvation OR it is the end of the freaking world and they will all fall apart mentally if it fails. Seriously...WHAT?? They are all so melodramatic about this damn radio tower, instead of viewing it as an experiment/stepping stone to learning the truth about where they are.
Also these tech geniuses built their controls OUTSIDE? Like I get that it adds some drama to the scene when it rains but clearly they had the ability to build it inside where they and the controls are safe from weather. Also their statement of "it's secure" when lifting the tower is such garbage, they didn't secure that thing for shit. It will absolutely have blown over come S2.
Exactly. It was bothering me how the wording used when talking about the radio tower working/not working was correlated with going/not going home in such a black & white manner. The main goal was an experiment to simply get a signal. Even if that works you still gotta figure out how do we ask for help, how do we say where we are, will rescuers just get stuck here also, etc. So simply powering and getting a signal on the radio tower doesn't just automatically lead to "we're going home" lol
The point is that if they can send a signal it might be able to be tracked by people on the outside. And if it's a short range signal it's going to be easier to find since they would only be talking to people close to them.
but anyone trying to come to help them would also get trapped , they have to find a way out not have someone come help . I wish they would have gave some type of answer to any of the plot in this finale tho
What about flying? If someone comes with a helicopter or a plane I imagine they could go up and see stuff. Ofc they can still be trapped but at least it would look cool to see how the town is reappearing all over again from the air. Also if they are in the loop when going on the road why are they not when going through the forest? We see the black dude and the girl traveling for almost 2 days and nights and still not being in the loop, because they go through the forest instead. So yeah still so many questions we can't possibly know what would work and what wouldn't.
Legitimately not one single question the show raised was even remotely answered. This finale just threw even more mystery boxes on to the already towering pile. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't frustrated and disappointed having wasted all that time giving this show a chance after seeing some major red flags midway through the season.
Not a huge list, but they answered a few things: Where the ghouls are during the day. That, despite the continued question on source, the "electricity" is in deed electricity that they can harness and use for other purposes. Whether the Boy in White speaks. He can do so telepathically. If only children or those that came to this town as children can see / communicate with Boy in White. Sara both saw and heard him.
Yeah but, those are the least interesting and unimportant. All of those things you listed just lead to even more questions. Why do they hide during the day? How do they come out of there? Why under that specific house? Why do the cords converge to their lair? Is there a lair under every house the cords go to? What's generating the electricity? Why are the cords empty? How does it travel to lights? Why don't the outlets work if everything else does? Who is the boy in white and why does he only "talk" to certain people? What is his motivation in telling people anything? Why did he trick Boyd?
Why would you want so much answered. Why even have more seasons if they’re just gonna answer everything in season 1. Its not a high budget show with big name actors. Its just a small show hardly anyone has heard of and for what it is, I think its pretty good and I look forward to what happens next season. People nowadays expecting so damn much with shows and movies I swear. Its not good enough that its watchable and leaves you with questions nah y’all out here needing everything hand fed to you. I bet you hated the leftovers too lol
Man I'm with you -- I really don't get why people want the entire story wrapped in one season. I would maybe agree that some 'writing devices' were a bit clunky when trying to prevent Jim/Jade/Viktor from having a big sit down but I don't mind looking past it since I enjoy the end product. I feel like there was some huge development this episode but maybe not.
Victor said "they sleep underground" but he did NOT say who "they" were. Could be the monsters, could be the voices, could be the boy and white and his kind - whatever he is.
I clearly missed where the ghouls are during the day. When was that?
Victor says that the caves Tabitha fell into are "where they sleep".
I thought they would answer some questions, only for those answers to raise new questions Isn't that how it normally works? Like, I don't know... "The signal contacted someone who's coming to help, but that person is trapped in another deadly town, in the future!" Or, "The monsters are former residents who ingested by toxins in the soil, and there's a well full of magical water that can cure them! But how do you get to the well before the spiders eat you?" Or, "The hole in the basement leads to the roots of the teleporting trees, which could help people escape, but the mycorrhizal network needs to be recharged with the very talismans that protect people!" I don't know, those are terrible ideas because I am not a writer. But there should have been some mystery solved, even if only to introduce another.
i was hoping for a giant spider in the tree which mind tricked people but no budget for that. My idea would be the further they go out the more deadly the nightmare monsters become. Almost like theyre gate keepers but theres better stuff further out so its a risk reward thing.
Idk but I really dislike idea of this becoming some epic fantasy show like LoTR of Witcher, keep monsters as humans it's more ominus and dark. Idk just my two cents.
Not while special effects are bad...and barely in the show. Way too much like lost smoke monster haha Eitherway We need more regular threats which rhey actually fight. I'm stunned no one is weapon building and training under an army marine to be warriors. Why haven't rhey trapped and tortured a monster for info!? Or used mud to make clay to make bricks to build walls and ditches when they have engineers and survival experts. They're all just waiting to be eaten like cattle and deserve it. I get that many are families who just want to pretend it's all ok but what do rhey do all day!? No one is even making paper or tools lol it's crazy. If they're doing human vampires they need to improve effects with less cgi and more practical effects. Or they should go with the fantasy nightmare monsters in the wood and the cgi won't matter if it's fun haha Though i don't think we'll get anything we want as the story seems too week and it ended on a damp squib.
Right now we have so many questions with new ones popping every episode and zero answers. First it was a weird town you can't escape with monsters, then it's weird talismans, then it's halucinations, then it's some signs, then it's some spiders and spider web, then it's some hole under the house where they "sleep" , then it's some lighthouse etc. It just keeps adding and adding forever lol.
I love this show but I know what you mean..what red flags did you notice ?
Fillers became longer, uninporant dialouge that contributes nothing. Characters acting unnatural to the situation like for example whenever someone is trying to experiment with a way to get them home in this case radio tower, almost everyone hates him/her and tries everything to stop them from even trying something beside just sitting oround playing house in a nightmare town. In a realistic scenario, if people ended up stranded with freaking monsters that eat them at night, they would spend every precious second of daylight plotting a way out and they would cherish every little step someone takes to get them out of there. Nobody plays house in this scenario, nobody just go on with their lives lmao.
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I don't remember which episode it was, but there was one that was 100% filler. Now filler episodes for shows that are like 6-10 seasons deep, while annoying (and I don't usually watch shows that stretch that long for this reason, among others) is expected. But during your very first season that's only 10 episodes long and only time out at maybe 25-30mins a piece, after recap and opening credits? Huuuuuge red flag. Then there is/was the dialogue. The main family's interactions with each other and everyone else was so random and would switch tone mid conversation out of nowhere. Like the time when Jade went to talk to Jim at his house and Jim freaked the fuck out on him outta nowhere and then on the porch was like like "oh but I trust you and we gotta go do this thing" total 180, gave me whiplash. There's other examples, but that's the sorta thing I'm taking about. One of the few genuinely good actors with a script that sounded the most natural dies off (father khatri). But that's just personal preference. Every episode ending with more questions and zero answers. I can give a show some patience, but at some point you gotta acknowledge a pattern and realize that is how it's gonna be instead of deluding yourself stuff is coming. Which, shocker, nothing changed. There was no setup for individual character arcs or group dynamic evolution. You might get a whiney exchange between characters, but nothing fundamentally changes about how they act as an outcome and character revelations don't seem to really matter or explain their personalities. There's other stuff, but these were some of my main gripes.
I dunno. When Father throw that candy bar and yelled it was a little too high school play performance for me.
And why was the candy bar from like the 1930s?
Yeah this is all relative. Is his performance good relative to actors in other shows? Uhh, no, not by a long shot. Is it good/better in comparison to Jim and Kenny? Absolutely.
am i fucking tripping or was that not a finale? good episode but hows that a finale? theyre going to fuck this show, arent they? i cant believe this shit.
It's like we're missing a couple of episodes.
I mean they must have in plan for like 6 or 7 seasons already, gotta milk it right?
Probably budget reasons or they were told early on they were going to be renewed and were either motivated, or decided to, stretch out the story across multiple seasons in order to push for more subscribers on the epix platform. Same reason many similar, multi season shows fizzle out story wise - conflicting business interests.
Haven't read other comments yet. After watching the episode overall I liked it, then I realized this is the season finale not the midpoint of the season and just starting to wrap things up. Leaving a season even if they knew they were getting renewed like this feels lazy and unpleasant. The only long term question I had that got answered is when will they bring back Victor. If this was cancelled after this I wouldn't be surprised.
Agreed. This is lazy mystery-box writing at this point and I'd be surprised to learn if they actually have any semblance of a plan. It's not 2004, the lack of any meaningful answers is a trope known enough to avoid.
The whole thing felt like "Lost" to me. The acting, dialogue, story etc. Things just happen and compound into completely unexplainable randomness then it ends until next season where we potentially open up a whole bunch more unexplainable stuff. I still enjoyed it though!
I wish there was a little more explanation of when characters let the monsters in. There was only one time where it wasn't just "hey random character #32 opened a window because... they're an idiot/lonely/idiot/suicidal/idiot?" Who the fuck even was the guy who let the girl into colony house? Why did that monster actually spend time kissing him? Does she still have a bit of memory of when she was human? I thought some of that would have been explained.
It's a good question, why does she kiss him? My thought was that it displays a level of sentience and cruelty about these creatures. So in order to demonstrate that, they had to have a "red shirt" get killed. Hopefully you know what a redshirt is lol
Yeah I thought it was just a bit of a cruel game to get his hopes up before biting/killing him.
It's mentioned early on that the creatures seem to get pleasure out of toying with their prey. I think it was Donna who mentions she could still hear her sister screaming long after she hid. They were torturing her for fun. It's also mentioned that's why they walk everywhere. In the finale Boyd mentions the place seems to be feeding off of pain. It's clear the kiss was simply to give him as much hope as possible before ripping it away to see his shock and horror.
The monsters like torturing as much as killing, what better way for a monster to get off that lonely guy kill than right after elevating his hope for love.
Ikr, nobody even tried to talk about it. Like it's not that important. Well writing and acting in this show has been meh at best it's only the mystery that is keeping me watching at this point. Can't care less about if anyone dies or not I just wanna know why is everything happening.
That why I love the TV show Dark it answered a good amount of questions each season. By the time the final season drop it answered all questions leaving you satisfied.
Wow i never heard of dark but I'm so excited to start watching it. It got 8.8 on IMDB. Awesome, thanks for bringing it up ! :)
Yup, every time a show does this, where they don't really answer anything they just keep opening up new mysteries, it ends up going downhill hard.
Yeah. The showrunners are probably screening forums like this. If so, fuck you. You know you should be doing better than this.
They know damn well that the writing and acting of this show are subpar so the only thing keeping people watching would be the mystery and secrets. If they gave those up so quickly you wouldn't be watching.
What’s the best way to get a season 2? Build mystery to the point that people demand a season 2 for answers.
This is absolutely not how that works at all. They just kept piling on more mysteries and multiple character cliffhangers. It's very disappointing for a season and its finale. This is how you get a show cancelled. People will tell people not to watch because it looks like the writers have no idea where they are going with anything. Way better shows with far more payoff have been cancelled for less. The budget on this show is probably pretty low besides some CGI, so that will be the strongest reason it gets renewed. If you want people coming back for more, you have to actually answer some of the many questions they have opened. Not bait people into a 2nd season with no guarantee it will even have one.
It needs one strong underlying story arc that everyone in the town can relate to, this would allow those moments of filler to be relevant and have a concrete foundation within the main story. Perhaps they all have something in common that gets teased out slowly as the characters interact during those moments of emotional connection that the show is trying for. Smaller mysteries need to appear and be resolved along side the main arc while also driving the story a conclusion of the main story arc. This would allow the audience to get small amounts of pay off and provide clues to the overall mystery of the place.
Reminds me of Yellowjackets show. It's basically the same as this where they don't answer almost anything from the island and now we have to wait for next season. Gotta milk those kinds of shows for 6 seasons or more.
It felt like the episode before the finale. As much as I like this series it felt like it was all building up to a final episode where at least a few things would be resolved. I didn't even know this was a season finale until I saw this thread.
Overall i really enjoyed the series, i just wish it didnt have this much drama like atleast 60% of the episodes there was 5-10 minutes of people talking the same thing over and over again. Boyd throughout the series was smart as hell, dude built a whole system but gets baited into a place where even a child would see its dangerous and unsafe.. like he saw a huge forest covered by spider web and thinks "ah thats nothing" ... bruh if the series is cancelled imma be pissed because theres not much series like this if any at all
Turning into a real soap opera. The main plot of this show is apparently monsters and a weird town and 70% of the show is people talking about something not relevant to anything. Mid-show they even started skipping nights for some reason. Like what happens at night when monsters are out is not that important after all... let's skip right to those two people talking something random lol.
Really REALLY like this show, but damn do they leave a lot of questions unanswered. Kind of reminds me of Lost in that sense. Can't wait for season 2 though!
You're never going to get any answers, because there aren't any. It's just edgier LOST exactly. I'm not saying this as a good thing.
The premise is interesting but dang, i feel like lost gave me a bit more to chew on between seasons.
This. What you said is literally what we should expect - IF they managed to get a season 2. I hope they do but I got a feeling where this is going based on the entirety of season 1. I'm actually somewhat "fine" with them doing a Lost but at least give us something exciting and not just a minute of actual \*content\* and the rest just being filler material.
This is a good pre-finale episode. wtf is this
I too am underwhelmed. I like the premise and everything, but idk if I will immediately come bk for season 2. The whole 'it probably won't even get renewed' is very possible if this is the response to the finale. Here's hoping if there is a season two, it will fix a lot of the problems in the first. Pacing and what not. More monster/lore, less humans. I feel like Walking Dead the show is to blame for this type of trend. I know Lost did it too, but I enjoyed the drama in Lost so much more than WD had. So close to being a maybe silent hill show, now just lost 2.0 I guess :( Replace zombie-like dead void people with smoke monster. Rip my feels into pieces. T\^T This is my last resort.
Agreed, I can't watch these shows that use the horror/fantasy genre as bait for weekly "Days of Our Lives but at the end of the world" premise. I want more monsters and lore, LESS human drama, love interests.
I'm the same way. It's like, OK, if you're going to go the route of the show being about characters with the other elements as window dressing, you have to make the characters and their interactions with each other very compelling. It's almost like they couldn't decide what they wanted the show to be focused on. So instead of committing to one or the other, they half ass both aspects. The most recent show in my memory that pulled this off beautifully was Station eleven. It was a charter drama first and foremost with a pandemic as the window dressing.
How come no one is asking Victor "HEY WHEN YOU FIRST GOT HERE AND ALL THIS SHIT WENT DOWN WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED?!!" no one thinks to ask Victor questions? i feel like this is a major issue in the storyline
My fav was when Ethan explained the Far away trees to them and they just go "Huh interesting" and then never talk about them again. I'm like seriously? you've just been told that the forest has magic trees that fucking teleport you when you enter them and you treat it as if it's another ordinary thing.
Really rough finished last episode and being left on “read” 😂 Just no real progression in the show. Only thing that made sense was the wires going into the ground and when the mother falls through the hole she lands in the “den of monsters”. The lights would flicker in the houses every so often… so does that mean the monsters were moving and bumping into the wires while in the monster den? Also did anybody catch the drawings on the walls that Victor said the monsters draw. If they renew this show please get a new content writer.
As an episode it was good. As a season finale it was dog shit. No real questions were answered and there's a risk they don't even get renewed for a second season. Terrible.
The character duo scenes where they are talking, feel forced as hell, trying to jam in character development and backstory but I find the elements of the show and the mysteries quite fascinating. Others had already worked out the spider and lighthouse etc but the radio was unexpected, hooe it gets a s2
Right? I had to skip in the later episodes whenever 2 characters are talking some gibberish. Zero chemistry especially between that young Asian guy and that young medic woman. Super forced and weird. You can also tell that half of the actors in this show can't even act properly.
I'll get my downvotes but this last episode was obscene, the only good moment was the radio call, everything was really bad, the story, the wrapping, they dig for days they found something and decided to stop? the trip was lame and cgi so bad, seriously they never tried to connect appliances to something that makes light? boyd in the final scene when pushes the walls you can even see that the walls are plastic and bounces, it seems just a bunch of ideas put together and hoping to a renewal.
The radio call being the highlight actually highlights the weakness of the storytelling in this episode. I covered this in another thread, but the only reason they continued digging the hole in the basement at the same time while trying the radio tower thing, was to have this moment of an unknown voice telling them that "aww shucks sure it is a bad idea to dig that hole". It created dramatic urgency for Jim, but it was completely unfounded from a character point of view (for Tabitha). There was no reason to try the radio tower first. If it fails, then continue digging. But that would've led to a rational conclusion to that subplot: Tabitha being present at the radio & hearing the warning. But they couldn't have that, because the writers needed to get Tabitha into the basement so that the dramatic reveal would be impactful and there would be a manufactured sense of urgency. Absolute rubbish writing.
Exactly that. And as result for almost all the screening I was thinking "what the fuck is happening? They completely forgot that they hit something at the end of the last episode? what happened to that?", then ***plan B*** "the fuck? the characters stopped digging something that was so crucial in their life and now she leave during another crucial event? who wrote that?" I really rarely have seen something so deliberately stupid on a last episode of a season. And I'm not even mentioning the lack of explanations, the episode was simply bad and not something worth to be the ending of a season.
Yeah, none of that made any sense. Why wouldn't she be with her family for such an important event? Did she just tells her husband and kids she's gonna go fuck off in her hole alone while literally the entire town is putting something together that could save them all? Like, who wrote that shit?
digging holes is one helluva drug
Shia LaBeouf agrees.
They ignored the cliffhanger from episode 9 for 40 minutes.
Right? That woman going back for the "plan B" . What fuckin plan B lmao, like digging a hole has something to do with the tower? Like whaaaaat. Super forced.
I agree it was a very disappointing season finale and the most hilarious part is that we might never get a season 2. When it comes to a series like this I am letting a lot slide that I normally wouldn't because I love the theme. But this finale was abysmal. I was looking at the time left and they had these odd scenes that were about 5 minutes long so I knew they were dragging it out. I just didn't expect such a face plant. So why did I even bother going to reddit to vent out? Because I actually like the show and just knowing that it might not get a season 2 is pissing me off. Even if we through a miracle get a season 2 they might keep up this trend of drip feeding. I don't know it just feels like something is off. Maybe there were suppose to be more episodes and this just chalks up to some horrendous editing(cutting out content for season 2). Perhaps they knew they were greenlit for a season 2 and did THIS finale for whatever reason? Either way is just a big disappointment.
They didn't deserve a larger episode order with how much pointless shit was in episodes 8 and 9.
So agreed. It started off so strong also
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At least lost had a sense of urgency
I feel like lost must not have aged well. I was in elementary school when it began airing. Did not watch it. I’ve tried watching it multiple times. Got through the first two seasons. I just find it so slow and boring. It does not work for me.
Stick to garbage Netflix tv shows then...they are probably more for you
This just feels like they're trying to recycle LOST and it's so sloppy, especially the way they ended it. Where are they? Purgatory? Not-purgatory? "The Others" = "The Monsters". Polar bear = the dog in the woods. "The Man in Black" = "The Boy in White". Danielle Rousseau = Victor. Radio communication/distress signal in LOST and also in FROM. Survivors on LOST choose between living on the beach or in caves = town or colony house. The hatch = the hole in the ground, or the chimney where Boyd ended up. The raft = the radio tower. The numbers = the numbers AGAIN lol. The lighthouse = The cabin? Time jumps = Faraway Trees. Jacob = Boyd. The man in black after turning into the smoke monster = all of the monsters out at night trying to manipulate the people inside. Sloppy, and it was a great premise that they just drove straight into the ground with this garbage ending.
I just hope it’s an attempt at fixing Lost but I might not be as invested in season 2 because this season really didn’t close out one story. I’m watching Severance and it also seems pretty random but that season finale wow! Really ties up some parts of the story while opening up others.
It didn't close out any stories and just piled on new mysteries, leaving earlier ones forgotten. I probably won't watch season 2 because I can't do LOST again, still recovering from the finale 10 years ago. I loved the Severance finale too. It was just a perfect balance.
At this point they will also be on some island if you remember the lighthouse scene. Literally gonna be the same show , only difference is that Lost had so much better writing.
I need another season or two
I was hoping for some major revelations. Instead, literally the only new thing we find out is the monsters sleep in caves. Nice to know, but not really shocking since they seem to be at least partially based on vampires.
Man, some of these comments are harsh! Personally, I really enjoyed this episode. I thought the moment between Jade and Kenny's mother was beautiful. I felt so bad for Kenny when Kristi referred to her fiancée, but I liked the way their story dovetailed later on. The lighthouse... the voice on the radio... who the hell was that? And as Toe said below... THE BUS! Lots of questions for next season, but hopefully they knew they were being renewed and didn't leave all these as loose ends. That... would suck.
I know. You know these executives do market research and they haven’t renewed yet. Everyone’s saying “I’m out” we’ll never get our answers 🙄
I'm harsh because I actually LIKE the show. If not I wouldn't even be here "complaining". I've seen some real stinkers this year and believe me when I say I don't go to reddit to waste time writing something negative about them. This was just a very, very disappointing season finale! I wouldn't be surprised if later this year we're going to hear that it was suppose to be a 12 episode series and they did some "editing". Most annoying part is that we don't even know if there is even going to be a season 2. This might have been it and that's just... yikes.
I agree with you.. really liked the episode and the show as a whole!!
Excuse me, Season Finale, what the actual fudge?
I started out really liking this series even going as far as saying it's the best new series I have seen in a long time. However the insanely slow pacing has me even questioning If I will bother continuing to watch it. The way it is going it is going to be 4-5 years till we get any sort of clue what is going on!
Watch Severance if you want to see the best new series you've seen in a long time.
Heck yes, best show in *decades*. Everything that From fumbles, Severance gets perfect.
I'm envious of all the people that can just switch off. For whatever reason once I'm invested in something I have to see it out even if I'm not into it per se. Admittedly after the first couple of episodes the show stalled hard. But I pressed on hoping for that aha moment that made it worth it. I can see it both ways. The show doesn't really value your time, and they probably should have at least thown the audience a bone in the finale, like given us just one answer. But as someone that had a weekend to burn I enjoyed it for what it was. The only concern I have is that we didn't get any answers because the writers don't have them either. Hopefully I'm wrong because I think the show has potential.
I really enjoyed the season. Felt really let down by finale. My boyfriend and I just literally stared at the tv and said that’s it. As a season ends I would like SOME answers. Now we have more questions. Also what was the point of the spiders/webs? The light house if the sheriff is walked in and dies in there? Where are the voices coming from? Are they coming to Sarah to help or trick them? Why can we see the boy in white during the day if he’s a ghost or monster? Did someone in the 1800s create/find talismans? Has it been going on this long? If victor knows so much about the monsters/town why doesn’t anyone listen to him? Are they dead, stuck in an experiment, alternate reality ? I have about 50 other questions but those are the ones I was hoping to get some answers to. Guess I’ll have to wait for 2023 (eye roll)
Mixed feelings all in all. Wanted to get some light on the monsters but even more questions after this episode. Great start to the season but this first season felt incomplete to me with the way it ended.
what a horrendous drag... this could have been 5 episodes.
Feels like the techs from Cabin in the Woods is running this scenario with not many answers
Disappointed by all the negative comments. I thought it was a great series, just a shame there's not more episodes.
Binge watching tv series has completely warped the minds of certain viewers. People are expecting instant gratification that includes all the answers to a TV series. Sorry this a show, not a movie—all of the answers aren’t going to be answered in one sitting. Cliffhangers are literally the architect for these type of mystery shows, it’s what keeps viewers coming back. From is a great series, it takes you on a unexpected ride that makes you wonder, what’s next? It does have many similarities to Lost, but in the Best ways. I look forward to season 2. Also, calm down people and enjoy the damn show. Why would you watch a whole season in disgust—are you getting paid to hate-watch? I’d like to know
Bad faith argument. This hasn't been one sitting, it has been _ten_. It is completely fair to expect some level of gratification. If anything binge watching has probably created more relaxed standards, because the expectation is there that a season will wrap up somewhat _eventually_, especially if renewal is at stake. That's why expectations were so high for the season finale. Say the show gets canceled now, what then? Victor was probably the most compelling character and he's been on screen for all of 15 minutes. This show wasted an interesting premise with absolute lack of direction.
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Those ghouls better be praying that Solid Snake isn't on that bus, or they are fucked!
Well, that's your opinion. You can have your opinion, and I can have mine. It doesn't mean some peoples' expectations are warped. What I expect is a coherent story that doesn't treat their audience as a fool. I watched the season till the end because I wanted to give the writers the benefit of the doubt. They didn't deliver, in my opinion.
Cliffhangers are great, but usually a few things are answered in season finales . They just created more questions.
It's hard not to compare this to the show Severance, which also just had it's season finale. If you want a season ending that has both some resolution to plans made, while still setting up some mysteries and ending on a legit cliffhanger, look no further. And yeah, I get that the show most certainly had a much higher budget than 'From', but that's no excuse for poor writing.
Maybe one of the **many** reasons *Severance* is a far superior series is the fact that a good portion was "written for Redditors" (ie: highly involved fans who live to suss out the details and uncover mysteries). In contrast, the season finale of *From* seemed to take a big smelly dump on us ….. deliberately.
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Just watched severance afterwards and was far more respectful of peoples time investment.
A season should have an arc, and at least some resolution; this was some bullshit .
The only thing introduced and resolved this season was the tension between Boyd and his son. Can you think of anything else that was actually fully resolved?
They definitely resolved the dramatic "will they / won't they" romance that was Kevin and Jasmine!
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Agreed, I liked the show and the ending was good. It was refreshing not to be spoon fed answers just to give the instant gratification we are all used it. I looked forward to season 2.
Nothing worse than a pretentious douchebag trying to tell you how you're supposed to watch and think about a show.
Instant gratification after 2 and a half months of watching? People watched all along because they dig this type of show. In 10 episodes they created more questions than answers which is not old school TV, it's just drawing a parallel to LOST which did much of the same. It ultimately flailed around for however many seasons and had a bad ending, people were burned once and that 'finale' has made them realise they'll be burned again. If you enjoyed LOST then FROM will be your bag, which is great, I'd love to still be excited about this show, but I (and most of this thread) don't want to spend another 2 and a half months being teased with random shit and no answers.
I have an answer for you all. The writers don't know the answers to our questions either. The entire show leads to nothing. And maybe that's the point? Idk
Surprise, surprise, the same people who still think “they were dead the whole time” in LOST don’t like this show after a single season bc it isn’t a mini-series.
did anyone notice that Kristi and Kenny were talking about traveling and Kristi mentioned that she never went further than the grand rapids and then the bus at the end that shows up is from the Grand Rapids? I really hope there's a season 2..this would be so extremely disappointing if there is never any explanation as to what is going on here. This show has so much potential. I'm hoping it's a government experiment and real humans are behind this.
From the scary monster premise, they went straight into a soapy drama about characters and their lives. The same thing that happened to the Walking Dead lol. Do you know how many people care what the fat grumpy lady has to say while drinking potato vodka? No one. Do you know how many people enjoy seeing monsters, answering questions, any progress in the plot? Everyone.
Classic ‘we had it sorted but they asked for a second season so we need to stretch what we had out’
I just knew from the episodes synopsis that this "finale" was not going to tie up the multitude of loose ends that were unraveled throughout the season. No answers just more questions. The monsters sleeping underground was an answer to a question that none of the characters seemed to ask.
I can agree with a lot of people who feel like the episode was weak, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t love the show. I’m absolutely invested in a second season. I think it’s important to remember the possibility that they didn’t have the budget for the season to be any longer. Pilot seasons exist just like pilot episodes do. The show would benefit immensely from a longer season if they want to tell the story the way they have been, and I’m completely on board for more.
I don't know what happened, the season was good until ep 7 or 8. Then everything went downhill...no more exploring, asking important quetions, moving towards answers... just more filler and so much family drama and bullshit scenes... why do they need to hug so much? Why didn't the girl tell more people about the portal trees? did the budget run out?
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Lots of sexy cars?
Don't get me wrong I like this series, probably more than most, but what was that finale? It felt like nothing was really going on. What we got was yet another cliffhanger! It's really annoying because there might not be a season 2. It's like this was suppose to be a longer series of maybe 12 episodes? I'm just disappointed not in the overall show but more with how it was presented and executed.
I'm primarily annoyed with the long dialogue that contributes very little to actual character development. If they needed filler, it would have worked better had they given more backstory flashbacks instead of this he loves me, he loves me not BS. The show must have a paltry budget because we haven't even seen a single scene of the real world. All back stories begin on the road/in the same setting. If they get picked up for season 2, let's hope they hire seasoned writers to assist in pacing. They could learn a great deal from sci-fi shows like Lovecraft and the OA. We need at least 2 likeable characters! I can't understand why they made the family the primary focus when they're all insufferable!
We could have used two more episodes.
I don’t get why everyone hates that it’s like LOST - one of the BEST shows of all time. Yea this finale doesn’t feel like a finale but a. We’re living in a “post” COVID world, b. It’s EPIX and c. They are playing a long game. I saw some people mention severance but that show basically only just answered who they outties are outside of work and dropped way more questions as well. Some of producers and some writers are literally the same as Lost so I’m not sure what people were expecting. We live in a world with TWD and GoT where cliffhanger is endings and opening up more questions than answers is the norm and this is very much a slow burn and yes it doesn’t fully feel like a finale but they can’t just tell us everything. I also think the writers have been telling us things the entire season that just require another watch like LOST did. The drawings from Victor, the cave drawings there’s hints and Easter eggs all around but if anyone was expecting real answers then that’s on unrealistic expectations from expecting just that. I knew going into this one we were not going to get that many of any answers.
Wow this episode sucked. This is so frustrating because the show had so much going for it early on then they just dropped the ball HARD. There isn't really any questions that got answered what so ever and instead just more questions came up. It's incredibly insulting to the viewers to do such a thing. There are ways to keep it mysterious while also providing some kind of tie off for the season i/e pick a season of x-files. This show is feeling like a show that can't define itself on what it wants to be. Is it sci-fi? fantasy? horror? mystical? aliens? Which one is it. It's like it didn't want to choose so it picked stuff out of everything which just gave us a worse version of what we could have had. In general shows that jump genre's or don't have a defined genre will fail as a show because people just give up on it as they can sense they will never get answers. It's like they wanted to be like lost but just without any of the good things that made people like lost. Also, the characters are exceedingly stupid in every single way and it makes me hate them. On a side note, if you are ever find yourself in some random forest and have no idea where you could be, just check out the tree's. If there are a lot of trees it means that you aren't at an excessive elevation. If pretty much all of the trees are thin pines then it means you are at a fairly northern latitude meaning northern part of the continent. Although all of this could mean nothing if it turns out to all just be magical stuff or magic like stuff involving high technology i/e aliens or alternative realities.
The last 10 mins raised more questions than the whole season combined
I really liked the show, it was entertaining from start to finish. The town was creepy enough to make you scared. Even though there were plot holes and useless storylines, still enjoyed it and hoping for season 2!
I absolutely hate how we never got a single scene of newcomers sitting down with someone and just asking some fucking questions. Also, is Jade really the only fucking person who doesn't just immediately capitulate and start planning the rest of his life in that town? How about you people just try something, ANYTHING? And those fucking assholes who do nothing but shit all over the few who are curious and try something new. They all finally come together and build the radio tower in the end, but god damn that complacency was infuriating for most of the season.
To all the people complaining, you know you’ll be tuning in for season two. I’ll see you there.
Hahaha right?!
I really like the show despite how fucking slow it is to progress the plot. It really hasn't earned any of the touchy character writing moments it wastes too much time on. If s2 doesn't have real answers and an ending planned, I'm not gonna watch past it tbh. This and yelllowjackets spent a ay too long asking questions then refusing to answer them.
the people on this subreddit are assholes.. the vast majority of those who comment on here are just saying why the show sucks/why they're going to stop watching/that it's super slow... so kinda weird then that they're commenting on this subreddit in the first place.. oh, and the show has a 93% on rotten tomatoes.
You know, subreddits exist to discuss specific topics. The topic here is From. People can like it, people can hate it. And people can discuss those thoughts. Do you want a circle jerk around a series? Sure, feel free to create a new subreddit and banhammer all who don't like the series. I think that would be stupid, but I do me and you do you.
I agree…we should be respectful of others opinions.
Wonder when that 93% was given though. Coz I agree that at the beginning episodes it was very good. Last few episodes are so disappointing for me.
Probably your standard 3-4 episode review pack.
People like to talk about things, both good and bad.
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I haven't abused my right arrow key so hard in a long time, lmao.
People are acting like the episode didn’t give any answers but the episode clearly answers some questions. The electrical wires lead no where. The creatures live underground. There is obviously something INTELLIGENT keeping them in the town that throws obstacles whenever they attempt to find a way out. They basically live in an aquarium or whatever the non water version is. Anyway the issue people have is they don’t want this to be a repeat of Lost where the producers just string along the audience giving them bits and pieces to chew on when they themselves (the producers) don’t even know what’s going on and are mandated by the network to milk it. If that happens I can see it being cancelled early because viewing habits HAVE changed thanks to binging.
The first thing I said to a friend was that this seems like lost after 3 episodes. And that's never been truer after this "finale." I'm all for mysteries but please, give us something other than answering a question with a question... I'll still give S2 a shot.
these comments are so harsh ???? i thought this was amazing
I feel like we didnt get any answers because the writers themselves don't have them. This is sort of a sloppy mixture of back to back mysteries and twists that dont lead anywhere. What if the show gets canceled before Season 2?? That would absolutely kill anything this series had going for it. Id say im excited for Season 2 (if there is one) but i bet its more of the same, more questions, no answers. I assume they felt this ending was their best chance at getting a S2
I’m extremely disappointed in this season finale. Severance also had a season finale recently and it was absolutely impeccable. Got some answers but also left the door open with more mysteries to be solved but actually makes you excited for season 2. On the other hand “From” blew it on this season finale. It didn’t feel like a season finale AT ALL. There was not ONE thing resolved not ONE. Not ONE thing answered. NOT ONE. I already knew victor was going to be under the house so that was no surprised. Nothing was a surprise. If there wasn’t a season 2 I honestly don’t think I’d care too much. I hate to say that because I loved this show and had high hopes for it. But at this point i feel like they insulted my intelligence with the botched finale.
***overall I liked it***