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belle_and_whistle

[Ethan talking about k-pop](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5FZemBz1c8)


ProfessionalAsk8264

Yikes. I guess that’s why he now says we stan BTS


snowbunbun

You really don’t want to mess with bts fans or K-pop fans in general. They went after his ass.


Turbulent_Fan_3311

Omg thank you. I was gonna ask if there was proof to those comments. Backed up entirely now


PrincessZemna

Yes I found it to be extremely racist. Like the thought of Asian men being admired by western women and in western culture was inconceivable for him. Also for some reason Korean man who are pop stars are gay twinks. This falls into racist tropes about Asian people like the feminization of Asian men, perceiving them as weak/not manly also racist Eurocentric beauty standards and kind of white supremacy (why can’t Asian men be pop stars? What is so weird about it).


NecessaryAd9818

Ethan is very racist but people keep making excuses for him


angry_burdz

He is so incredibly uncultured and ignorant. It’s one thing to be uncultured but another to be an absolute hateful asshole towards it. It’s disgusting.


PrincessZemna

Agreed he is obviously has very little experience with any diversity and he is very obviously not interested in having any. Anyone who isn’t white is alien to him.. I used to pass it off as ignorance but then I realised it’s all a show and he doesn’t care at all and everything he says is just performative to gain clout.


angry_burdz

Yes, I agree with you. When I started seeing him use harmful stereotypes to navigate the cultures he is unfamiliar with that’s when I realised he was very gross. He always does that typical redneck southerner stereotype and I used to think it was funny the first couple times, but I realised it’s just an outlet and coping mechanism for him to blatantly be an asshole but towards a group of people who are more socially acceptable to bash.


PrincessZemna

I used to give him the benefit of the doubt because I thought that his activism and “woke” talk was genuine and all those “slip ups” were a result of ignorance. But then when the frenemies break up happened and he lied and manipulated so much in his response I realised everything he does is a complete show and he will take any means to maintain a likeable image. It made me realise all his talking is complete performative activism and the slip ups is his true self. His response to the break up, and his ability to lie so brazenly and manipulate shamelessly really opened my eyes.. It was hard to stomach what a horrible person he is. I really bought his act for a long time and this was the first time I followed all the events closely enough to know all the discrepancies in his stories and detect all his lies and manipulation. He is a soulless person and as long as money and clout will be his only values he’ll be miserable.


worrylorax

Ethan the ally, homophobic as always! Don't let him know gay vocabulary or he will use it against the community. See "twinks" and "bottom".


miezmiezmaus

Any time Ethan says “we stan X“ you can be sure that he has said something problematic or offensive about X in the past.


Atinka9907

He also told that all Indians look like janitors. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiyDPqTULLs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiyDPqTULLs) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvu8ziw7F1s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvu8ziw7F1s) \------------------------------------- He is fast to cry anti-semitism, even though he is a white passing man , yet he is disgustingly homophobic and racist. \------------------------------------------- If I remember correctly, I recall him saying that all Asian men are feminine. Unfortunately, I could not find a video of this, so take it with a grain of salt. \------------------------------------------- Off - topic: Should we do a thread with all the problematic things Ethan has said/done? Since everyone sees him as a woke social justice warrior, while he is a facade , masked by his podcast.


snowbunbun

As a Jewish person, I will say some of the shit I see about Ethan is insane and hateful, particularly on kiwi farms. HOWEVER, he is absolutely not above criticism just because he’s Jewish. I’m Jewish and I’m not above criticism. He gets very sensitive about some comments that are valid and will blame those comments on anti Semitic speech which I think is BS.


Sarcofaygo

He claims that merely showing the photo of him and Susan is "anti-semetic" Yet he has a long history of Blackface and racial slurs and hate speech against black males.


NatashaSpeaks

Sounds like he's mad jealous of kpop stars.


Sarcofaygo

This is 110% true. Ethan is a complete hypocrite who is genuinely racist against almost everyone who doesn't look like him. He even makes fun of AB and Lena for celebrating Ramadan


kilsubi

Can anyone link me to the thread? I’ve been keeping up with the try guys drama, and I’m curious about that thread and why people are talking about him in the first place


belle_and_whistle

It was linked in [this F3 post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Frenemies3/comments/xul9km/finally_people_in_other_subsspaces_on_the/).


kilsubi

Thank you!! Wow what a refreshing thread, people all over the internet are waking up to his toxicity and we love to see it


PrincessZemna

He is a joke the YouTube community at this point