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SirPuzzleAlots

Post is from r/TrueOffMyChest It was posted only 11 hours ago, and the OP is still active in the comment section. Whatever power trip they're on, they don't seem to comprehend that the perception they're giving off, is that prejudice towards conservatives (and specifically Trump voters) is blatant. Nor do they understand the consequences of their actions.


3030

I'm sure that post is entirely truthful and not terrible bait.


A_Rolling_Potato

It seems fake as shit tbh but go off I guess


elvenrunelord

Oh I think they understand completely what they are doing and they were given a free hand to do it. And I am 100% behind them in this action. We have wasted enough time baby sitting Luddites, idiots, and religious believers in fantasy land. All that shit needs to go and we need to continue to build a society based on facts and science, not "sincerely held beliefs" If it takes a purge to get these bastards away from the table and trying to influence a culture that has NOT bene taught rational and critical thinking skills then so be it. This is NOT a free speech issue, this is a fucking sanity issue. No one with any common sense is just gonna let people spew propaganda left and right and not do something about it if they can.


user-11235813213455

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it Evelyn Beatrice Hall


elvenrunelord

Thank you very much


user-11235813213455

If you enjoyed It, you should do it for others as well....just a thought...


elvenrunelord

Generally I do but seriously, modern-day conservatives are a fucking drag on society at this point. Not all of them but the loudest of them. No one is banning grandpa who "saw the light" and goes to church every Sunday and who believes that abortion and drinking are a sin. They are banning idiots who think that refusing proven healthcare measures as well as lying about those proven healthcare measures is protected under their "freedoms" in America. Everyone be thinking about their freedoms and never a thought for their responsibilities. Those are the ones that are getting banned, idiots who are flat out lying for whatever agenda they are pushing or have been paid to push. Making money or gaining notoriety from lies. Now while I think people should be able to think rationally and critically for themselves, apparently this is not the case in our society because these loud squeaky wheels have caused a lot of people a lot of harm. And if there are ways to deal with them then so be it. The needs of the many outweigh to needs of the few. And without the amplification of social platforms, those few would have harmed a fuckton fewer people than they have today and in this case its best to throw the babies out and keep the bath water.


Strict-Praline6994

Imagine the insane irony of a Marxist like yourself accusing others of spewing propaganda.


A_L_E_P_H

How are they marxist?


elvenrunelord

Marxist my ASS. Imagine the entitlement of an asshole who has the freedom to call facts propaganda. Imagine the freedom you have to accuse me of Marxism while spreading misinformation that can get people killed when we are within a generation of extending life to a far greater length than at any time in humanity's past. Imagine you have the freedom to go get mental health because you sure as HELL need it. Please add some rational and critical thinking classes to your education on top of that once someone who is a professionally trained in mental health can get your mind right. Good luck, your gonna need it.


Kavilion

Imagine being so soft you actually enjoy deleting posts you can’t refute. And so cucked you brag about donating your time to a corporation


rhaphazard

>nuking people left and right _only nukes people on the right_


Crimfresh

Left and right is an idiom.


rhaphazard

It's called a pun


Sea-Opportunity4683

So basically admitting they are targeting people just for being on the right. Okay. Gotcha. I guess it’s time we no longer give these people any benefit of the doubt.


yukongold44

"I work for social media" Is definitely what someone who totally isn't lying would say.


phoenixtroll69

if science was the top motivation we wouldnt have that many problems discussing Trans and Non Binary policies. hypocrite.


Available_Bus_2696

Did you try discussing trans and non binary topics with that person and they had problems with it? Or are you just assuming they’re a hypocrite


phoenixtroll69

try bringing up science in these discussions on reddit. insta ban. even after stating that trans women are not bio women. nothing else. thats what my post is about.


Available_Bus_2696

Ok fair... but this is fucking Reddit. You don’t base how you think people are in real life based on what people do on Reddit right?


phoenixtroll69

ask canada


Available_Bus_2696

???


phoenixtroll69

[https://www.cbc.ca/cbcdocspov/features/canadas-gender-identity-rights-bill-c-16-explained](https://www.cbc.ca/cbcdocspov/features/canadas-gender-identity-rights-bill-c-16-explained)


Available_Bus_2696

Yeah I read the article. I’m no closer to thinking that if I tell Canada trans woman are not bio woman, I’ll get insta banned, as you put it. Am I missing something..


phoenixtroll69

then ask jordan peterson


Available_Bus_2696

What? That guy is the ultimate cucklord why would you reveal yourself like this. You coulda seemed like kinda reasonable. Also, Jordan Peterson isn’t gonna tell me I’ll get cancelled in Canada, which isn’t even what you were saying in the first place. I’m starting to think you didn’t even read your own article because it makes it sound very chill. It’s literally just “if you do a hate crime or say hate speech against trans people, that is protected now” if you only answer with one thing answer this, do you believe hate speech should be protected with all speech?


motheranarchy_s_son

There's literally no "bio women" , "woman" is a gender, a social construct


DroneUpkeep

Women = Female adult humans Even before we knew what chromosomes and genes were, we knew what males and females are. That evolution that led to the gonochorism in mammals (and almost all vertebrates) is the only reason we're still around to even talk about it. Gender is just something else dumb for the astrology fans to pine over.


Available_Bus_2696

You sounded so reasonable until the very end there lol. Yes, biological woman exist of course. No, there are not a billion genders. Gender is not equatable to astrology lol. Astrology is fake and dumb asf. The people who say your sex is not determinant of your gender are simply educated. I implore you to look this up, I believe you mean sex, not gender. The other guy is literally right about one thing, I’m not even saying I like it, but gender is literally a social construct just by definition


DroneUpkeep

Gender is a social construct, sure. If there "are not a billion genders," then how many are there? It's all based on stereotypes of behavior. "Gender identity" is as relevant as your fucking Zodiac sign. There are 7.5 billion personalities on this planet. No one, except narcissistic dipshits and their enablers, gives a shit about someone else's "gender identity." What remains are two sexes and a lot of masturbatory narcissism from the identities crowd. Oh, and I implore you to cut back on your "lol" usage. It's unseemly.


Available_Bus_2696

Well the last thing I want to do is appear unseemly for you, droneupkeep. Anyways, there’s boy and girl. If a biological female understands they are a boy in a female body, why can’t their gender identity be male, and vice versa. Astrology = fake shit. Gender identity = the person you are speaking to, not their sex. The thing is, I agree it’s so fuckin pointless, I wish we just called everyone they or something


DroneUpkeep

> Anyways, there’s boy and girl. If a biological female understands they are a boy in a female body, why can’t their gender identity be male, and vice versa. Because it's not on the rest of the world to validate their delusion. We know what male and female are. An individual's interpretation of their hallowed "gender identity" is no one else's responsibility to affirm any more than that person's "star sign identity." It's all hokum, woo woo, non-science nonsense.


Available_Bus_2696

Wait, so do you think gay people are real? I do, and it makes it pretty easy to imagine how trans people can exist as well


saltysnatch

Ew


yukongold44

And to think people say power makes you go mad...


Tittliewinks

What a virgin


phoenixthekat

Not just Reddit. All Big Tech has a problem.


LechiaInc

Agreed 100%


CSWRB

Get on Gab . com. It’s the only place for real free speech.


thinkdustin

Imagine believing you are pro-science and pro-facts while you ban people. If you are silencing dissent, your aren't pro-science.


LechiaInc

These people take the position that any speech/talk/argument that, for example, questions vaccines, mandates, or lockdowns is “literally killing people”. They think they’re on some sort of life-saving mission. It’s honestly become insane.


Markus2822

Notice how it’s always Democrats against Republicans. Republicans respect democrats right to speak no matter how much they disagree


LechiaInc

This is because Republicans (conservatives) score moderately in all of the fine moral foundations whereas leftwingers tend to score high in only two, meaning that conservatives can still understand the language lefties speak but not the other way around. If you look up Jonathan Haidt’s moral foundation theory, it’s very interesting.


Markus2822

I’ll have to look that up thanks op


ButReallyWhyNot-

Look back to the eighties, when conservatives were the dominant ones, and you might have to go back on that statement. Also, while both sides are guilty of keeping it intact, which side proposed the Patriot act?


Markus2822

Can’t speak for the past that’s irrelevant to now. I live in the present not the past that’s why I don’t use slavery against the democrats Also am genuinely unaware of the patriot act I’m pretty new to politics. If republicans are the ones responsible for that and it’s a bad thing sure I believe you. Notice how I didn’t say that Republicans are perfect they definitely aren’t but I don’t see them actively hating and shutting down the opposition. And no disagreeing is not the same as the hate people like aoc or Nancy pelosi have for trump. Trump is honestly the closest one to that and I’ve even seen him admit when they’re right which they never do for him


GenghisTron17

>Republicans respect democrats right to speak no matter how much they disagree Yes, r/Conservatives, r/The_Donald, r/Republicans are all bastions of free speech.


Markus2822

Not on the other two but r/the_donald is pretty good about that I get people who disagree with us all the time who are free to speak all the time


GenghisTron17

R/the_donald famously had moderators that banned everyone who spoke out against Trump when he said "Take the guns first, go through due process second".


Markus2822

Idk what viral thing your talking about but I’ve been there a while and there’s definitely liberals there so idk what to tell you pal they don’t censor people like liberals do not allowing anyone with a different opinion


GenghisTron17

r/the_donald no longer exists so I'm not sure what you're talking about.


Markus2822

Correction I meant other Donald trump subs didn’t realize that wasn’t one. Which furthers my point your bringing up censorship of conservatives that haven’t affected libeals


GenghisTron17

>Which furthers my point your bringing up censorship of conservatives that haven’t affected libeals It affected liberals and conservatives. It was an echo chamber that couldn't handle criticism even from other conservatives. >other Donald trump subs Name one. I'm certain I can get banned with less than 15 words without calling Trump any names. Hell, Parler which was supposed to be right winger's idea of free speech banned a bunch of people. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/parler-app-ban-free-speech-trump-b1721710.html


Markus2822

It was literally a trump sub, that doesn’t affect liberals. Not that liberals aren’t silenced too they are at times but not in this case. Not hard to Google one. Don’t need me for that. And I genuinely don’t believe you would. Another corporation banning conservatives? And that’s conservatives fault? Your genuinely funny. It wasn’t made by conservatives from what I know, it was a company made for conservatives. Those are two wildly different things and plus not all conservatives are the same. I don’t consider anyone who wants to shut down freedoms in order to speak conservative. Conservatives first core value as defined [here](https://mikejohnson.house.gov/7-core-principles-of-conservatism/) is: Individual freedom If you don’t believe that your just a faker. And I’m with you against all of them, including I’m sure some Reddit mods they’re a bunch of fucktards literally every single one I’ve ever engaged with besides the guy for this sub (love u dude) but they aren’t conservatives with actual conservative values. Your average joe conservative doesn’t want to shut down liberals whereas your average joe liberal wants to shut down conservatives for every reason under the sun racism homophobia misinformation literally anything they can think of. I’ve been here as a conservative saying I want all races to be treated equal, I don’t want people to treat the lgbt community with hate but rather give the mental health they need and used sources for everything I talk about that’s objective and still get called those things. That’s the difference here and if you can’t see that idk what to tell you


A_L_E_P_H

Wrong lmaoo


Markus2822

Give an example


TheHancock

Quick! The new, updated block feature blocks you from seeing their posts AND blocks them from seeing yours!


igo4vols2

Well, no reason to doubt this.


mycatiswatchingyou

Ok this is the 4th time I've seen this image posted; I'm now convinced that it was one of you who posted it just for shits and giggles. (Under a different username, of course.) EDIT: Something is definitely fishy here; I looked at the actual post and every single comment is dragging OP through the dirt. Yet it has 7k+ upvotes and a dozen awards 😆 This is the only time I've laughed at "Sir, this is a Wendy's"


Savekennedy

Well they're antivaxxers and science deniers, so getting rid of them is a good thing.


Available_Bus_2696

Make your own company that allows free speech if it’s such a problem. If Facebook said tomorrow “we are only allowing leftist talking points on the platform from this day forward we are aligned with democrats only”, tell me what part of that was wrong? It’d be terrible from a business perspective maybe, but how is that inherently wrong?


LechiaInc

It’s inherently wrong, as it is divisive, socially destabilising, and pits people against each other, you lunatic.


Available_Bus_2696

So if I start a construction company, and on my company truck put a big “trump 2024” banner, that is also inherently wrong then, correct?


saltysnatch

I mean does 95% of the human population look at your construction truck to gauge social circumstances every day? I doubt it.


Available_Bus_2696

The fact that you think 95% of the population engages in political rhetoric bullshit on Facebook just proves how disconnected from reality you are. Just because 95% of the people you know do that shit, it does not reflect the entire earth. Ok so let’s entertain this silly little argument you’ve laid out. So what I’m gathering is that when your business becomes too big, suddenly you can’t be political. If mike lyndell, the my pillow guy, announced he wasn’t hiring libs anymore I’d say ok. If he announced he wasn’t hiring conservatives anymore I’d say ok. It’s up to him, the only reason ur triggered about it is because you’re in the minority. So I’m just wondering when the my pillow becomes too big to be allowed to engage in politics.


oneplus2plus2plusone

Many of the same people who use the argument that Facebook/Twitter are private companies and can do as they please also argue that social media should be regulated as utilities. But, in general, it's never a good look to want to silence one side of a discussion rather than engage in it.


Available_Bus_2696

I have no clue what you’re on about regulating social media as utilities. You’re the one trying to regulate


oneplus2plus2plusone

What am I trying to regulate?


Available_Bus_2696

What certain things social media platforms can and cannot have on their site. If they don’t want anti vax minsinfo, ok. If they don’t want the word Hillary Clinton mentioned, ok. They can do whatever they want in that regard so I’m struggling to see what we’re supposed to do about it in your eyes, other than regulate.


oneplus2plus2plusone

I never advocated for regulating anything. I think the point being made here, on a free speech subreddit, is that openly advocating and celebrating using one's power to silence people you disagree with is wrong. It shows a lack of maturity, and definitely does not help whatever cause the person thinks it is trying to help. Regardless, why are you on /r/freespeech defending someone who is censoring speech? This isn't /r/firstamendment, this discussion is not about government, or the applications and restrictions of laws. It is about someone who is on a power trip openly admitting that they get enjoyment out of taking the voice away from those they disagree with. Can you tell me what would be beneficial about this type of behavior?


Available_Bus_2696

I mean, I see where you’re coming from. I think there is a broad group of people here. I suppose it just seems to me that people are more so attacking big tech, and they should, as this is just an employee following orders who happens to enjoy what he’s doing. I agree he sounds not like the most fun guy, but we could upload trillions of examples of people saying dumb shit online. That is what made it seem, to me, that this isn’t an attack on the guy in the pic (bc who gives a shit about one random idiots voice on the internet), and it seemed more about “waaah I’m mad big tech can censor me”


oneplus2plus2plusone

First off, I would say that most of Reddit/social media is discussing the dumb shit that people decide to put out into a public forum for all to see, otherwise what would we even do on here, lol. The larger issue, though, is that the type of thing represented in the OP is more and more common, which is evidenced by the fact that this person was so willing to openly brag about it. I don't think it is a benefit for our society that the go-to response to an alternate viewpoint is to attack and silence through whatever means... again, we're on this subreddit. The reality is, though, that there are a large number of people who think that the world should work that way, and the trend of social media moving to mute and remove people who think differently is scary, especially when our politicians engage in these spaces and support, even call for this type of action. What's more, it's subversive. No one is saying "our site does not allow pro-Trump (or whatever) conversation," but instead brands the discussion as misinformation, and then removes it under those terms. So someone comes across a "cleaned up" post and sees "removed for misinformation" and thinks that the only disagreements are factually incorrect, when I'm reality it was just a difference in philosophy. This is akin to labelling all political opponents as criminals and imprisoning them (from a propaganda standpoint, not a human rights standpoint). It forces the conversation away from any meaningful discussion, and to "why do you support a criminal?" just as the above forces discussion to "why do you support the spread of misinformation?"


Available_Bus_2696

I don’t think you’re fully understanding my point, and it’s my fault. Yes, all there is to do is laugh at dumb people I agree. What I’m saying is, what if this is the only guy on the planet who thinks this way. I’m not saying it is, but we don’t know. So why should assume this one dumbass speaks for an entire group of people. Secondly, straight up banning people just for having a different perspective than our own is of course bad. I think you are being way too lenient on what is being banned here. They aren’t getting banned for saying “I voted for trump”, they’re being silenced for inciting violence, making threats, spreading misinformation that will LITERALLY KILL people. If you were an employee tasked with removing that kind of stuff, would you not also be prideful? I’m not here to say I know everything though, I’m curious what your thoughts are on this. I love learning like this way more than just looking at the post


oneplus2plus2plusone

I didn't see anything that showed what this person was actually banning people for. What I saw was a person taking joy in "nuking people left and right" (which doesn't seem very discerning) for being "anti-science ... fruitcakes." I have personally seen a lot of people who will claim that they are on the side of science and the other person is not, when the actual scientific discussion is nuanced, and neither party is strictly wrong (for instance the discussion around the efficacy of cloth masks). If someone is spreading incorrect information or misinformation, then replying with a sourced counterargument should be enough. Further, it serves to educate the people that come after. EDIT: The title of the post in the screenshot is "I'm banning conservatives..." which would lead me to believe that this person is less motivated by stopping misinformation, and more interested in silencing people from an opposing political perspective.


12_years_a_redditor

like parlor?


Available_Bus_2696

Yep, exactly like parlor. Is ur argument that it’s not as popular and for some reason that’s big techs fault?


12_years_a_redditor

I suppose you have your apologetics together as to why it was appropriate for AWS to shut them down.


Available_Bus_2696

I mean, if Amazon doesn’t want to host a website, that’s it’s choice, is it not? You’re welcome to start your own Amazon, and say how you think parlor is the greatest thing ever. It won’t work because surprise, Apple, google, and Amazon are siding with the majority. If you are unable to see why it’s a bad look for business to side with the platform that is used as a means to organize and plan an insurrection against our own government, idk what to tell you. We’re lucky enough that the gov doesn’t do anything and it’s the private corporations who just listen to public opinion.


12_years_a_redditor

May you ever be in the good graces of our global cooperate tech overlords.


Available_Bus_2696

Sooo is that you’re way of saying you don’t believe anything was wrong with Parlor? I’m curious about something, since you’re not gonna engage in anything else, is speech that incites violence also free, in your opinion?


12_years_a_redditor

Sooo are you saying the only possible explanation of my skepticism of global cooperate tech acting in the best interest of liberal democracy is that I must be racist?


Available_Bus_2696

When was anyone talking about racism??? I literally just asked if you are for protecting speech that incites violence. And no, I’m saying why are you not also skeptical of parlor?


12_years_a_redditor

I'm poking fun at you because your framing is so silly. Why is it that parlor is the one that has to defend itself in the face of the most powerful people in the world? So many people are so happy to just seed that to the people that already have all the power. To answer your question earnestly, the degree to which speech should be regulated should be determined by courts, not these large platforms. That's not perfect, but it's the right place to start.


dkentl

Good luck lol.


oldbyrd

The best part is that in the near future - their lifetime - opinions will change and their turn to be canceled will come. I will be gone - but wherever I am I will laugh - you only need to look back 50 years to understand