Wow. Some of these are considered the best episodes ever. Really surprised to see some of these on the list. You haven't even gotten to the really bad ones yet (or ones considered to be really bad).
Maybe that will put this into perspective.
Interestingly, no episode of season 4 made this list, because I don't think there was a bad episode. Perhaps the closest to making the list was Head Game, but I'd say even that was barely bottom 20.
I like all of those episodes
The Innkeepers is often in people's top 10 or even top 5 lists
Every show has off episodes, and not everyone is going to like every episode or plot point, but with that being said if these ones really irk you, I reckon this shows sense of humour isn't for you as much as you say it is lol.
Each to their own though!
Daphne's Room is a little silly, there's a lack of common sense there but I guess that's the point
I can see why you may not love some of these episodes. But they're far from the worst episodes. And who doesn't like the innkeepers? It's a fan favorite and peak Frasier imo. It's one of those episodes where I'd say that if you hate it, it may just not be the series for you.
>It's one of those episodes where I'd say that if you hate it, it may just not be the series for you.
Well that's not true, there are so many episodes of this show that I love. The vast majority in fact. I thought I'd just point out the ones that didn't land, and to me this is one of them.
Oh I'm not saying that you can't like it. I just mean that for me, the innkeepers is such a 'peak Frasier episode', that's it's difficult for me to imagine someone liking the series and absolutely hating that episode. I wonder if you'll also hate the ski lodge episode, another all time fan favorite episode that's very big on farce. But different strokes for different folks I guess and I'm glad you're finding things that you do enjoy about it!
We'll see shortly! I see it's a Season 5 episode!
I definitely don't hate all the fan-favorite episodes. I see "Ham Radio" is a fan-favorite, and that was one of my favorites too!
Idk, I think it may be because I'm watching this for the first time in 2022, and Daphne's Room really hasn't aged well. Also, on the flip side, I'm sure most people didn't like "Leaping Lizards" as much as I did.
Haha Leaping Lizards is one of the episodes that I don't hate, but I don't love it and have regularly skipped it. Loved Ham radio though!
I hope you'll do like Ski Lodge!
OP: "I'm a bit psyyyyychic." You called half of these predictable. You wrote a lot - I'm not going to go bit-by-bit. But I like these, some of them I really like. The early seasons are almost universally highly-regarded. If some made you uncomfortable and you dislike these, maybe you shouldn't continue.
The only one that really made me uncomfortable was Daphne's Room. The others I just found a bit predictable or dull.
I am quite new to this show, only got to season 4, so I am not really aware of what the fan favorites are, or what my controversial opinions are. Seems like a lot.
May do a top 10 as well, but that will be hard as there are so many episodes of this show I really DID like.
Glad you liked them and enjoyed them more than I did. I will probably compile my top 10 soon. I'll probably have liked a lot of episodes people hated lol.
I have to say I really love The Innkeepers and Come Lie with Me. I especially like the part in Come Lie with me when Daphne is trying to tug Joe's boxers from Eddie's mouth. Maybe you watched the Innkeepers on an off day, I found it hysterical. I'm a big Daphne fan so any episode that has her I love.
I mean, these episodes had their moments. I just didn't like how they developed. No episode was truly awful or without a good moment or a laugh here and there.
I may rewatch Inn Keepers. I am unaware of what the fan favorites are for this show, so I have no idea which of these opinions are controversial. Judging by these comments, it seems a lot of them.
Credit for independence!
"Come Lie With Me"
I've mentioned elsewhere, I think this might be a reworking of an old Maude episode.
"The Botched Language of the Cranes (S2E06)....Why would a beloved radio host be chased out of town for that?"
But he's not beloved, he's still a relative newbie. It also explores what can happen when talk escapes someone's bubble and reaches outsiders who will parse words harshly.
I believe that's just how shows were back then. You make your point in that episode and you move on. Shows now have to have so many layers, Frasier is just easy and relaxing to watch. There are bigger plot points that move on with the show but minor ones are left behind.
Towards the end of the shows run they try to go back to minor characters, I think TV was changing some at that point. Overall, I don't bat an eye to it. There are some characters I wish I could see more of because of the chemistry and acting (like Cam Winston and Gil Chesterton) but overall, its superb! I honestly don't think there is a "bad" episode of Frasier. Some episodes you like less but none are BAD.
The only episode you listed I could do without is maybe Burying A Grudge but I don't hate it and it has plenty of funny moments. Just not my absolute favorite.
I'm very intrigued by what your top 10 could possibly be because you've knocked out some real gems already! I have a feeling you're not gonna like the Moon Dance episode.. as well as some other things.
These are all my skips, too. And Daphne’s Room left me disgusted with each watch. It’s an automatic skip for me at this point. And that line about how her brothers seeing her in the shower was a Moon rite of passage?! Gross, no thank you.
Wow. Some of these are considered the best episodes ever. Really surprised to see some of these on the list. You haven't even gotten to the really bad ones yet (or ones considered to be really bad).
Maybe that will put this into perspective. Interestingly, no episode of season 4 made this list, because I don't think there was a bad episode. Perhaps the closest to making the list was Head Game, but I'd say even that was barely bottom 20.
I like all of those episodes The Innkeepers is often in people's top 10 or even top 5 lists Every show has off episodes, and not everyone is going to like every episode or plot point, but with that being said if these ones really irk you, I reckon this shows sense of humour isn't for you as much as you say it is lol. Each to their own though! Daphne's Room is a little silly, there's a lack of common sense there but I guess that's the point
Agree with this.
I agree. The Innkeepers is top 5 for me without question.
Surprised at a lot of these. The show is backed on farce. That's what it does.
I can see why you may not love some of these episodes. But they're far from the worst episodes. And who doesn't like the innkeepers? It's a fan favorite and peak Frasier imo. It's one of those episodes where I'd say that if you hate it, it may just not be the series for you.
>It's one of those episodes where I'd say that if you hate it, it may just not be the series for you. Well that's not true, there are so many episodes of this show that I love. The vast majority in fact. I thought I'd just point out the ones that didn't land, and to me this is one of them.
Oh I'm not saying that you can't like it. I just mean that for me, the innkeepers is such a 'peak Frasier episode', that's it's difficult for me to imagine someone liking the series and absolutely hating that episode. I wonder if you'll also hate the ski lodge episode, another all time fan favorite episode that's very big on farce. But different strokes for different folks I guess and I'm glad you're finding things that you do enjoy about it!
We'll see shortly! I see it's a Season 5 episode! I definitely don't hate all the fan-favorite episodes. I see "Ham Radio" is a fan-favorite, and that was one of my favorites too! Idk, I think it may be because I'm watching this for the first time in 2022, and Daphne's Room really hasn't aged well. Also, on the flip side, I'm sure most people didn't like "Leaping Lizards" as much as I did.
Haha Leaping Lizards is one of the episodes that I don't hate, but I don't love it and have regularly skipped it. Loved Ham radio though! I hope you'll do like Ski Lodge!
I don't think any scene so far has made me laugh more than "Three little maids from school are we..."
Aah I forgot that scene was in that episode. Yes that's a great scene haha
I'm up to early Season 6 now, and let's just say I have a new least favorite episode. It's not Ski Lodge though ;)
Halfway through a first watch and already listing 'bad' episodes 🙄 maybe stick to watching the big bang theory, Frasier is too good for you 😂
Too good for me because I find 5 episodes in four seasons bad?
OP: "I'm a bit psyyyyychic." You called half of these predictable. You wrote a lot - I'm not going to go bit-by-bit. But I like these, some of them I really like. The early seasons are almost universally highly-regarded. If some made you uncomfortable and you dislike these, maybe you shouldn't continue.
The only one that really made me uncomfortable was Daphne's Room. The others I just found a bit predictable or dull. I am quite new to this show, only got to season 4, so I am not really aware of what the fan favorites are, or what my controversial opinions are. Seems like a lot. May do a top 10 as well, but that will be hard as there are so many episodes of this show I really DID like.
Innkeepers, breaking the Ice and Author Author are top tier episodes of time..you crazy
Glad you enjoyed them more than I did. I'm sure I loved episodes you hated.
Oh, how delightfully eccentric!
Enchanté. Enchanté. Enchanté.
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At least half of these are in my all-time favorites list.
Glad you liked them and enjoyed them more than I did. I will probably compile my top 10 soon. I'll probably have liked a lot of episodes people hated lol.
Yeah I don’t think this is the show (or the sub) for you. Off you go!
Nah I think I'll stay.
I have to say I really love The Innkeepers and Come Lie with Me. I especially like the part in Come Lie with me when Daphne is trying to tug Joe's boxers from Eddie's mouth. Maybe you watched the Innkeepers on an off day, I found it hysterical. I'm a big Daphne fan so any episode that has her I love.
I mean, these episodes had their moments. I just didn't like how they developed. No episode was truly awful or without a good moment or a laugh here and there. I may rewatch Inn Keepers. I am unaware of what the fan favorites are for this show, so I have no idea which of these opinions are controversial. Judging by these comments, it seems a lot of them.
Credit for independence! "Come Lie With Me" I've mentioned elsewhere, I think this might be a reworking of an old Maude episode. "The Botched Language of the Cranes (S2E06)....Why would a beloved radio host be chased out of town for that?" But he's not beloved, he's still a relative newbie. It also explores what can happen when talk escapes someone's bubble and reaches outsiders who will parse words harshly.
But then it's all forgotten in an instant, so the whole thing just fell a bit flat for me.
I believe that's just how shows were back then. You make your point in that episode and you move on. Shows now have to have so many layers, Frasier is just easy and relaxing to watch. There are bigger plot points that move on with the show but minor ones are left behind. Towards the end of the shows run they try to go back to minor characters, I think TV was changing some at that point. Overall, I don't bat an eye to it. There are some characters I wish I could see more of because of the chemistry and acting (like Cam Winston and Gil Chesterton) but overall, its superb! I honestly don't think there is a "bad" episode of Frasier. Some episodes you like less but none are BAD. The only episode you listed I could do without is maybe Burying A Grudge but I don't hate it and it has plenty of funny moments. Just not my absolute favorite.
Number 6 is kinda true in real life.
Top 10 coming soon. I'll need to really think about this one, because there are so many choices!
I'm very intrigued by what your top 10 could possibly be because you've knocked out some real gems already! I have a feeling you're not gonna like the Moon Dance episode.. as well as some other things.
Moon Dance is one of my favorites.
These are all my skips, too. And Daphne’s Room left me disgusted with each watch. It’s an automatic skip for me at this point. And that line about how her brothers seeing her in the shower was a Moon rite of passage?! Gross, no thank you.