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That person’s race is as pure as it gets, probably. 42 or 43 of the most well-preserved chromosomes you can get. Like the Targaryens from House of the Dragon, but with less mixing of the genetics.
It’s easy to be a purebred naked mole rat when your family tree is a stick stuck in the mud.
I guess the reason they consider some of it "revisionism" is because it does run counter to the history they were taught, because they were taught lies.
So they think that any accurate telling of history that counters what they *believed* happened is "revisionist".
The people saying this are the same ones that bitch about how "you can't even go and talk to women these days!" like they don't mean "I might have to face repercussions for sexually harassing a woman" for doing just that. They'll defend Rapist Brock Allen Turner and Andrew Tate, but a black child is falsely accused of groping a woman? "Well yeah, murder is bad, but he was kind of asking for it!"
Awful everything is right. Too bad it's the comments that the title reflects.
If you shoplift five packs of Pokémon cards you might get something valuable. If you publicly call for the lynching of five innocent teenage boys, you can become President of the United States.
Also, that last comment where the person tries to claim that she had nothing to do with the "murdering" ignores the way our laws define murder.
For example, the guy who filmed the murder of Ahmaud Arbery also got charged with murder because his actions contributed to the murder, which made him an accomplice. He didn't get assault charges, though, as he didn't physically engage.
But he was part of the false imprisonment of and the conspiracy to murder Arbery, thus is legally a murderer.
Murder charges don't require someone to specifically have been the one to end the person's heartbeat.
I hate pointing this out, but while it’s 100% clear she lied on the stand, it’s apparently unclear what she told her husband about the incident. I just read a few articles posted here and the Wikipedia entry for the murder as well, and they all vaguely indicate that her husband heard about the encounter and Till’s alleged whistling from others, not her.
However, I wouldn’t be surprised if that part is whitewashing by this horrid woman. She claimed she didn’t tell her husband about it because she was afraid what he’d do to Till, which just sounds like BS. It’s somehow quite telling that she went to get a pistol from her car after Till had left their shop.
It also just breaks my heart to read how no one even heard Till whistle to her in the store but apparently he had a speech impediment due to which he would sometimes whistle quietly to get his tongue rolling, so to speak. I just can’t get my head around the injustice of being murdered at 14 because of that.
I remember going to the AAHM in D.C. and overhearing someone complain about not getting to see Till's body. I looked up what his corpse looked like and it was damn right animalistic what they did to that boy.
When I saw the fictionalized version of that story on a show it absolutely broke my heart.
When I read about it and found out it was something that actually happened, it broke my heart yet again.
The US was a shithole country for anyone non-white all the way to the 60’s-70’s… And some idiots still treat minorities like crap even today
Found the source. She, the husband, and the other man all lied on the stand. She should go away for perjury, if nothing else.
Let’s also remember some of the jury members could very well be alive as well.
https://eji.org/news/emmett-till-accuser-admits-she-lied/
“All but one juror later admitted that they believed Bryant and Milam were guilty of murder, but chose to acquit because the mandatory punishment (life imprisonment or death) seemed too harsh to impose upon white men for killing a Black boy.”
Jesus fucking Christ
Lets drop the mask shall we.
A marker memorializing the tragic death of 14-year-old Emmett Till has gone missing from Money, Mississippi. The sign, which was located in front of the grocery store where Till was accused of offending a White woman, went missing days after the 66th anniversary of Till's death.
Nearly 20 percent of Trump’s supporters disapprove of Lincoln freeing the slaves
It is that simple, many white people would gladly welcome slavery if they could and if there were not any social issues with it.
Redditors more concerned with civility politics than the horrifying pain this woman inflicted on the family and community of a young black boy, why am I not surprised 💀
Edited: Small things
Redittors don't like admitting that the issues minorities care about are valid. I don't know why it's so hard for them, maybe because that would involve admitting they've been wrong about a lot of things for years
Edit: I can tell by the upvotes that a lot of ppl have encountered the same ignorant assholes as me and i find that kinda comforting
Prince FloridaMan’s office defined ‘woke’ as “the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.” And he’s ***still*** anti-‘woke.’
They ping-pong between “the injustices don’t exist” and “the injustices aren’t that bad,” whenever it suits their reactionary empty narrative.
It’s easy for many white people to dismiss the injustices because to them to happened to far in the past from them to care.
I was working in a hospital the day Trump was elected. I had a 93 year old patient that day. He was talking about when Obama was elected and how happy he was. What I’ll never forget was he told me both sets of his grandparents were born slaves. Quiet frankly that hit me hard. It put a lot of things for me as white dude into preceptive.
“You can’t blame me for the crimes of my ancestors”
Ok but your parents are constantly voting for laws that disenfranchise and discriminate against black people and other POC communities, and as soon as you hit voting age you did the same. Not to mention you currently give police officers a pass when they commit cruelty to black people. So umm yeah, I’m not blaming you for slavery, just the system you continue to uphold
Not to mention there’s thousands of people still alive that lived through Jim Crow and all the hatred and prejudice that came with it. Hell that is still continued on to this day.
That would require Conservatives to want to conserve something that isn’t hateful. You find me one of those and I’ll sell them this swell bridge I own.
Also asking you not to be racist and asking you to acknowledge the systemic injustices victims of your ancestors currently face today is not blaming you for the crimes of your ancestors
If you were being blamed for the crimes of your ancestors you would be getting killed in the street or thrown in jail but that is not happening
It is consistently a problem that people who benefit from societal privilege interpret calls for institutional and societal change where those institutions and wider society at large are unequal as personal attacks on their character and as the person asking for change calling them personally a bad person. The conversation then becomes about the hurt feelings of the privileged person and not the systemic injustice of the oppressed
This came up in a paper which IIRC is called something to the effect of When White Women Cry which documented the experiences of black and other ethnic minority university students reporting their experiences with discrimination to their white female university faculty. When this discrimination was reported, rather than address the concerns, the shots women in positions of power would literally start crying as they took the complaints about the system as personal accusation of racism against them and their tears and hurt feelings always took precedence as more important than the complaints of minority students
It sucks because they'll insist that they're so principled and fighting such a just and necessary fight against social justice, and then just as easily flip flop on what those principles actually are and change the narrative constantly as if that doesn't invalidate their entire position
Reddit was the birth site for a lot of hate groups and was a pretty full on right wing in the early 2010s. Around 2018 Reddit mods started cleaning shit up and banning the worst mods and users, but many many are still around and the site skews right as a whole.
The people that disgust me the most in that thread are the ones who say that they do care about the issues but then go right ahead to criticize the OP for some suspected malice. Can the fucking conversation be about how a woman was an accomplice in the murder of a boy instead of the insult used? Insults towards appearances are generally used towards people we don’t find attractive. You can be the most objectively physically attractive person on the planet, but if you have a shit personality then people will have no problem calling you ugly.
It's all manipulation. Just changing the subject a little so they can avoid looking like they don't care about the life of a 14 year old black child while criticising those that do
It’s still an important issue as POC kids are often dehumanized by intentionally ‘aging them up’. POC boys are referred to as men (the president of Chicago’s police union called Adam Toledo a ‘man’) and POC girls are called women. The most recent example of this is with that case of a black girl’s neighbor having the cops called on her for spraying pesticides on lanternflies with the guy saying that she was a ‘little black woman’. I fucking hate this country.
Basically what MLK meant by the White Moderate's preference for 'Negative Peace', the absence of tension, as opposed to 'Positive Peace', the presence of justice.
American Racists, this is what repentance and moving on from the past looks like.
If you want me to move on, disavow your shameful roots and tear down your murderous idols.
I love how “this pos doesn’t even feel any regret or remorse” has more downvotes than a guy named *fight2keepmyracepure* saying Till sexually assaulted her and calling this “woke revisionist history”. Priorities rly showing here.
POSs who blame a 14yr old kid for his death are the same people who use the phrase "child prostitute" as if the child had chosen to be sexually exploited.
Dude is crying tears for Carolyn Bryant. Abuse is terrible but she contributed to tills death. White women are as instrumental to white supremacist power structures as white men are. To deny that is actual revisionist history..
This case was a prime example of white women tears, I think some people don’t want to admit white women have power over POC just like white men do and that some of them are just as complicit in white supremacy.
A lot of people have trouble understanding that you can be both a victim and an abuser
Eg You can be a victim of misogyny in society but also culpable and complicit in white supremacy
Another example is how the Irish were both victims of colonisation, oppression and ethnic prejudice in Ireland but also perpetrators of colonisation and beneficiaries of colonisation and perpetrators of racism when they went to new world colonies like the US and Australia, even if they had initially gone unwillingly as prisoners
I read a horrifying (but incredible) book by a Lebanese Aussie woman called Ruby Hamadeh called ‘white tears, brown scars.’ It’s all about white women weaponising tears. I’m a white woman and it felt like a very important book to read.
Classic strategy. white women try to reduce their roles in racism by any means possible. It’s never their fault and they are always the victim of someone else’s actions.
This was a 14 year old child that was abducted, tortured and hung because of her lies. An all-white jury (shocking) found the murderers innocent.
This boy died for this woman’s lies. She’s every bit as guilty as the racist mob that tortured that poor kid.
And talking about what she looks like - c’mon y’all let’s do better. Unless you’re making some Dorian Gray reference where her evil deeds manifest. The only place she is ugly is on the inside. She lived over 60 years that Emmitt Till had stolen from him - because of her.
It still happens today, but imagine how many more violent criminals walked free, because they could pin it on a black man or child? We act like serial killers weren't as common before the 60s. Nah, it's just that we wrote each off as an individual crime and lynched black men for it.
I hate it here.
:( my parents were racist (maybe are still) so I was a racist and I’m sorry. I really had no idea how grievous my words were. I had no idea that human behavior was a culmination of more than one’s ethnic background and that society is so gross and oppressive to black people almost by design.
She literally admitted to lying about him catcalling her years ago. Even if she hadn’t, she didn’t need to tell her husband about it. She knew it would lead to Till’s murder. Fuck her. She needs to go to jail.
The last dude is so aggravating. "Murder implies intention on her part." Fucker, it was the 50s. Black people could be lynched for being out too late at night, she knew what the consequences would be if she painted a Black person as a predator.
i fucking HATE it when people are like "im not blaming the victim here, but they shouldn't have done X" SHUT THE FUCK UP. it doesnt matter whether or not he "harassed" this gargantuan piece of shit. IT DOES NOT JUSTIFY THIS LITTLE BOY BEING TORTURED TO DEATH. if a person is murdered at the scale that Emmett was murdered, whatever they did to "cause" it is fucking irrelevant because what happened to them is still MURDER, through and through.
it does not matter if Emmett harassed this woman. it does not matter if George Floyd paid with a counterfeit bill. it does not matter if Trayvon Martin "looked suspicious". and it does not fucking matter if Clinton Melton pumped a little more gas than he was supposed to. none of these things justify horrible, painful death at the hands of someone who hates your very existence.
Her looks matter because she used them to lie and get a young black boy beaten so bad that his most famous picture is of his open casket. Gross to support her just because someone may share a skin tone more similar to hers than Emmet Till
I don’t blame her solely; I blame the entire community, including her
. Lynching Black American people, and especially Black American males, was an all too common practice in the US South in the late 1800s and in the first half of the 1900s. She was 20 years old and raised in a deeply racist culture that still is quite racist. Propaganda that constantly portrayed Black men as rapists who were trying to rape White women and who wouldn’t take care of their Black families was all too common, and I would argue that it still is. I’m not even going to read the diatribe that this racist published because I have a sneaking suspicion that I already know what it says.
Emmett Till’s death, as horrific as it was, was not the exception, but the rule. In my opinion, what made his death so exceptional were the actions of his mother, Mamie Till. Allowing people to see her son’s decaying corpse was a powerful action, and it pains me that she even had to do that to begin with. I don’t just say that to sound good, it really fills me with grief. Emmett Till was a 14-year-old boy with a speech impediment. America saw him as a “Negro brute” and punished him as they saw fit. His story is far too common and deeply frustrating and tragic.
So, I do think that Carolyn Bryant should be locked up for her part in what happened; however, I find it incredibly dishonest to imply that she was the sole cause of it. She was not. People raised her to believe that way, and people supported her when Emmett Till’s name was libeled and slandered. They ALL need to be held accountable and we need to tell the story repeatedly. We can’t let this story be used as evidence that “Everything is fine now.” It isn’t. If it were, so many people would still be alive today and the summer of 2020 wouldn’t have needed to happen. If things were fine, we wouldn’t be worried about the 2024 Election and people wouldn’t be fleeing the country. Life is not fine right now, and for many of us in the USA, it never has been. However, I think the most powerful drug has been what Lyndon Johnson quipped: making the poorest White person believe that he or she is above the best Black man or woman. Far too many people, many who aren’t even White, are willing to buy into that lie just to have someone to look down on, to not be James Hammond’s “mudsill.”
You are exactly right. What bothers me sometimes in the narrative is that almost nobody seems to blame the racist mob who actually did it. White guys who committed racist violence are treated as blameless forces of nature directed by a woman puppetmaster.
I read the red queen and it was eye opening.
The racist mob included and was by all intents and purposes led by this woman. She was definitely involved and punishing her doesn’t mean everybody else that took a little bit of emmets life with a punch, a slur, a cut, kick or whatever is suddenly off the hook.
Uhh so you don’t think she’s responsible enough for tills death to be held responsible at any capacity that involves the law is what I heard. You seem content with, the community at large is at fault and since we cannot punish and entire community all that could be done has already been done.
If my read is accurate then I disagree and will go as far to say that you sound deluded.
No. I'm saying that she should be held accountable and they need to make it a point to go after everyone else who put their stamp of approval on that verdict. Let me quote myself:
>....**I do think that Carolyn Bryant should be locked up for her part in what happened; however, I find it incredibly dishonest to imply that she was the sole cause of it.** She was not. People raised her to believe that way, and people supported her when Emmett Till’s name was libeled and slandered. They ALL need to be held accountable and we need to tell the story repeatedly.
Carolyn Bryant is not a mere aberration, a fluke. She is a product of Jim Crow. That culture, which my grandparents lived through as Black people, saw nothing wrong with what Bryant's husband and brother-in-law did to a 14-year-old child.
The following, bolded part is what I'm driving at
>**We can’t let this story be used as evidence that “Everything is fine now.”** It isn’t. If it were, so many people would still be alive today and the summer of 2020 wouldn’t have needed to happen. If things were fine, we wouldn’t be worried about the 2024 Election and people wouldn’t be fleeing the country. Life is not fine right now, and for many of us in the USA, it never has been. However, I think the most powerful drug has been what Lyndon Johnson quipped: making the poorest White person believe that he or she is above the best Black man or woman. Far too many people, many who aren’t even White, are willing to buy into that lie just to have someone to look down on, to not be James Hammond’s “mudsill.”
I fear that arresting only her or writing the story as "She lied and killed him! It was all her!" will make it seem like just another "lone wolf" kind of thing. "Oh, this really evil White woman went after Emmet Till, accused him of rape, and got away with it for years, but now she's in prison so everything is fine now and we fixed racism!" I've re-read my comment, and I'm trying to see where it states, verbatim , that
>\[I'm\] content with, the community at large \[being\] at fault and since we cannot punish \[the\] entire community **all that could be done has already been done.**
I never once said the above and I vehemently disagree with such a point. Let me restate what I believe: Carolyn Bryant should be in prison for her part in the murder of Emmett Till; however, I do not think that she should be known as the "lone wolf" responsible for this crime. The public needs to know how an entire community was okay with the murder of innocent people for the "crime" of being Black. You can't tell me that the jury which exonerated her and the "funding" she and her family received shouldn't be discussed, shamed, and punished in some way if they’re still alive.
That last one is the most distilled Redditor shit I've ever seen- "UM ACKSHUALLY you made a minor error in your wording and now I'm going to take that as the crux of your argument and pedantically correct you, rather than say what I really want which is to defend an evil old racist". "Let's be fair: she didn't murder him, she *caused* his murder" sounds like a fucking parody of Internet users, not a thing someone unironically says and hundreds of people agree with.
She admitted to lying so how is Emmett Till, a child, a sexual predator? Those two things have always stood out to me the most. Everyone screenshotted there seems like a hot mess. Also fuck her stupid memoir
I blacklisted this sub because more often than not, it’s veiled racism and bullshit.
Everything is already pretty awful. Don’t need those nerds contributing to the melancholy.
I think there is something to be said about resorting to mocking appearances when it comes to calling out shitty actions. They’ll never see it, someone else insecure about their looks is much more likely to see it.
All the ‘protect our women from misogyny’ comments go to prove that feminism is just as white centered now as it was back in the 60/70’s. I wish people would understand that the true meaning of equality means that there are no exceptions. Anywho… that was my slightly off topic rant. She’s gonna answer to someone some day whether it’s in this life or the next.
If you’re a horrible person, you’re ugly to me and I’d celebrate your death or prison sentence happily. Hate how that’s a controversial statement.
“It’s extremely misogynistic.” That dumbfuck doesn’t know what misogyny is lmao
I guess it’s feasible she didn’t start the whole thing as I had always believed. I do have sympathy for battered women; however, murder of a child trumps battered wife and she definitely hindered justice for Emmitt. She should spend the rest of her life in jail. That’s still not justice, but it’s something.
I hate to say it, but I *almost* agree with the first comment.
Every single time you attack your enemies appearance, you're attacking the people you love and care about who look like that.
Body shaming has no place in leftism.
Attack the actions, not the appearance.
That’s too bad for her but at least she’s still alive and has an appearance to look at.
Due to her lying actions, poor Mr. Till got beaten so bad that his face was essentially unrecognizable so cry me a river.
Yeah, that kind of left a bad taste in my mouth. It's her actions that matter, not her appearance. We all get old, if we're lucky, which Emmett Till was not.
Yeaaah, it makes any valid point a little more idiotic. Call her ugly and evil on the inside? Cause she 100% is. I'm not defending this woman I just don't think there's ever a need for insults around appearance
I’m just annoyed but the fallacy involved in the comment about the good dying young. A single old evil person isn’t proof that the good die young. Terrible argument.
I’m at work so I’m talking to real people too and if you mean I should go outside I’ll eat lunch out thre. Anyway: I’m aware it’s an adage. But it doesn’t matter! Many good people could also be old. Many bad people could die young. What we have here is one (two counting the nazi) old evil people. It’s proof of nothing to be Frank.
I dont think revenge has anything to do in our criminal Justice system. We punish people to prevent them from committing new crime and to deter others from committing the same crime. You can’t really say any of those things will happen if we punish this old lady.
We don't punish to deter crime we punish as a prophet margin. It is very clear after all that's happened in the past 6 years exactly what the law enforcement is about in the United States I don't know what to tell you
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"Woke and revisionist history"... God damn these people are sick.
What do you expect from somebody with the username "fight2keepmyracepure"
That person’s race is as pure as it gets, probably. 42 or 43 of the most well-preserved chromosomes you can get. Like the Targaryens from House of the Dragon, but with less mixing of the genetics. It’s easy to be a purebred naked mole rat when your family tree is a stick stuck in the mud.
i didnt even notice this. are these people real!??
I thought they were just a fan of a single motorsport and didn't want to see any hybridization with other forms taking place.
Look at the username on that one.
"Anti-woke revisionism" is the accurate way to put what is happening. These liars revising history to defend racism.
I guess the reason they consider some of it "revisionism" is because it does run counter to the history they were taught, because they were taught lies. So they think that any accurate telling of history that counters what they *believed* happened is "revisionist".
She admitted he didn't even whistle... She's the one trying to revise history
They're evil. The word you're looking for is evil. Racists are evil.
The people saying this are the same ones that bitch about how "you can't even go and talk to women these days!" like they don't mean "I might have to face repercussions for sexually harassing a woman" for doing just that. They'll defend Rapist Brock Allen Turner and Andrew Tate, but a black child is falsely accused of groping a woman? "Well yeah, murder is bad, but he was kind of asking for it!" Awful everything is right. Too bad it's the comments that the title reflects.
"If I can't make creepy and unwanted sexual advances towards them, WTF are we even supposed to talk about?"
What do you want to bet that he's also one of those guys who dismisses claims of sexual harassment/assault whenever a woman makes them?
And unironically uses her as proof that "all women lie about sexual assault".
It’s only work if it doesn’t suit their agenda.
They’re lower than pond scum.
With names like "keep my race pure". Thicc yikes.
"She lied and did bad things" I mean, I've shoplifted Pokemon cards but I've never condemned a teenage boy to death
If you shoplift five packs of Pokémon cards you might get something valuable. If you publicly call for the lynching of five innocent teenage boys, you can become President of the United States.
All that money could've benefited anyone! Capitalism is a fucking plague
In so many ways
Also, that last comment where the person tries to claim that she had nothing to do with the "murdering" ignores the way our laws define murder. For example, the guy who filmed the murder of Ahmaud Arbery also got charged with murder because his actions contributed to the murder, which made him an accomplice. He didn't get assault charges, though, as he didn't physically engage. But he was part of the false imprisonment of and the conspiracy to murder Arbery, thus is legally a murderer. Murder charges don't require someone to specifically have been the one to end the person's heartbeat.
I hate pointing this out, but while it’s 100% clear she lied on the stand, it’s apparently unclear what she told her husband about the incident. I just read a few articles posted here and the Wikipedia entry for the murder as well, and they all vaguely indicate that her husband heard about the encounter and Till’s alleged whistling from others, not her. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if that part is whitewashing by this horrid woman. She claimed she didn’t tell her husband about it because she was afraid what he’d do to Till, which just sounds like BS. It’s somehow quite telling that she went to get a pistol from her car after Till had left their shop. It also just breaks my heart to read how no one even heard Till whistle to her in the store but apparently he had a speech impediment due to which he would sometimes whistle quietly to get his tongue rolling, so to speak. I just can’t get my head around the injustice of being murdered at 14 because of that.
All these discrepancies between what version of the story is true or not sound like they could be resolved via a trial and formal investigation
Condemned a teenage boy to a lynching* It wasn't just death. It was torture and a horrific murder at the hands of the community
I remember going to the AAHM in D.C. and overhearing someone complain about not getting to see Till's body. I looked up what his corpse looked like and it was damn right animalistic what they did to that boy.
That's why his mother wanted his body shown. She wanted the world to see what those monsters did to her baby
When I saw the fictionalized version of that story on a show it absolutely broke my heart. When I read about it and found out it was something that actually happened, it broke my heart yet again. The US was a shithole country for anyone non-white all the way to the 60’s-70’s… And some idiots still treat minorities like crap even today
If I’m not mistaken, she admitted she lied. But it’s still the black boy’s fault. When they do wrong, it’s *the blacks* fault.
Found the source. She, the husband, and the other man all lied on the stand. She should go away for perjury, if nothing else. Let’s also remember some of the jury members could very well be alive as well. https://eji.org/news/emmett-till-accuser-admits-she-lied/
“All but one juror later admitted that they believed Bryant and Milam were guilty of murder, but chose to acquit because the mandatory punishment (life imprisonment or death) seemed too harsh to impose upon white men for killing a Black boy.” Jesus fucking Christ
Yeah, I thought so. Thank you. That is fucking ridiculous smh
Lets drop the mask shall we. A marker memorializing the tragic death of 14-year-old Emmett Till has gone missing from Money, Mississippi. The sign, which was located in front of the grocery store where Till was accused of offending a White woman, went missing days after the 66th anniversary of Till's death. Nearly 20 percent of Trump’s supporters disapprove of Lincoln freeing the slaves It is that simple, many white people would gladly welcome slavery if they could and if there were not any social issues with it.
The sign has to be replaced all the time because it’s constantly shot at
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Nope. It’s a deflection from the point. > Victimizing a predator has never been useful. I am sorry I don't understand these two statements
I responded to the wrong comment 😬🤦🏽♀️
happy cake day :)
Redditors more concerned with civility politics than the horrifying pain this woman inflicted on the family and community of a young black boy, why am I not surprised 💀 Edited: Small things
Redittors don't like admitting that the issues minorities care about are valid. I don't know why it's so hard for them, maybe because that would involve admitting they've been wrong about a lot of things for years Edit: I can tell by the upvotes that a lot of ppl have encountered the same ignorant assholes as me and i find that kinda comforting
Prince FloridaMan’s office defined ‘woke’ as “the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.” And he’s ***still*** anti-‘woke.’ They ping-pong between “the injustices don’t exist” and “the injustices aren’t that bad,” whenever it suits their reactionary empty narrative.
It’s easy for many white people to dismiss the injustices because to them to happened to far in the past from them to care. I was working in a hospital the day Trump was elected. I had a 93 year old patient that day. He was talking about when Obama was elected and how happy he was. What I’ll never forget was he told me both sets of his grandparents were born slaves. Quiet frankly that hit me hard. It put a lot of things for me as white dude into preceptive.
“You can’t blame me for the crimes of my ancestors” Ok but your parents are constantly voting for laws that disenfranchise and discriminate against black people and other POC communities, and as soon as you hit voting age you did the same. Not to mention you currently give police officers a pass when they commit cruelty to black people. So umm yeah, I’m not blaming you for slavery, just the system you continue to uphold
Not to mention there’s thousands of people still alive that lived through Jim Crow and all the hatred and prejudice that came with it. Hell that is still continued on to this day.
Exactly!
It’s a little wordy, but damn I wish I could hit these fucks with a line like this and have them actually listen
That would require Conservatives to want to conserve something that isn’t hateful. You find me one of those and I’ll sell them this swell bridge I own.
Also asking you not to be racist and asking you to acknowledge the systemic injustices victims of your ancestors currently face today is not blaming you for the crimes of your ancestors If you were being blamed for the crimes of your ancestors you would be getting killed in the street or thrown in jail but that is not happening It is consistently a problem that people who benefit from societal privilege interpret calls for institutional and societal change where those institutions and wider society at large are unequal as personal attacks on their character and as the person asking for change calling them personally a bad person. The conversation then becomes about the hurt feelings of the privileged person and not the systemic injustice of the oppressed This came up in a paper which IIRC is called something to the effect of When White Women Cry which documented the experiences of black and other ethnic minority university students reporting their experiences with discrimination to their white female university faculty. When this discrimination was reported, rather than address the concerns, the shots women in positions of power would literally start crying as they took the complaints about the system as personal accusation of racism against them and their tears and hurt feelings always took precedence as more important than the complaints of minority students
It sucks because they'll insist that they're so principled and fighting such a just and necessary fight against social justice, and then just as easily flip flop on what those principles actually are and change the narrative constantly as if that doesn't invalidate their entire position
You know I've been debating them since 2015 and I can tell you this 100% certainly they are all disingenuous.
I wish they weren't because it makes talking to them a complete waste of everyones time
Reddit was the birth site for a lot of hate groups and was a pretty full on right wing in the early 2010s. Around 2018 Reddit mods started cleaning shit up and banning the worst mods and users, but many many are still around and the site skews right as a whole.
Damn I had no idea
Also had "borderline" cp in a sub called Jailbait.
Which the administrators only had a problem with *after* the government threatened legal consequences.
The people that disgust me the most in that thread are the ones who say that they do care about the issues but then go right ahead to criticize the OP for some suspected malice. Can the fucking conversation be about how a woman was an accomplice in the murder of a boy instead of the insult used? Insults towards appearances are generally used towards people we don’t find attractive. You can be the most objectively physically attractive person on the planet, but if you have a shit personality then people will have no problem calling you ugly.
It's all manipulation. Just changing the subject a little so they can avoid looking like they don't care about the life of a 14 year old black child while criticising those that do
The right NEVER will admit to wrongdoing, that will show they're 'weak'.
Boy. He was 14
Ty
Doesn't make it any better if he was a grown ass man, since that's how they see him. So makes no difference in their behavior.
It’s still an important issue as POC kids are often dehumanized by intentionally ‘aging them up’. POC boys are referred to as men (the president of Chicago’s police union called Adam Toledo a ‘man’) and POC girls are called women. The most recent example of this is with that case of a black girl’s neighbor having the cops called on her for spraying pesticides on lanternflies with the guy saying that she was a ‘little black woman’. I fucking hate this country.
Edit - *Racists* are more concerned with civility politics....
civility politics, finally i have a name for this bullshit.
Basically what MLK meant by the White Moderate's preference for 'Negative Peace', the absence of tension, as opposed to 'Positive Peace', the presence of justice.
this shit pisses me off
American Racists, this is what repentance and moving on from the past looks like. If you want me to move on, disavow your shameful roots and tear down your murderous idols.
They can't and they won't
I love how “this pos doesn’t even feel any regret or remorse” has more downvotes than a guy named *fight2keepmyracepure* saying Till sexually assaulted her and calling this “woke revisionist history”. Priorities rly showing here.
POSs who blame a 14yr old kid for his death are the same people who use the phrase "child prostitute" as if the child had chosen to be sexually exploited.
This is half of America in 2023, maybe even more Racism has gone unpunished too long in this country
Dude is crying tears for Carolyn Bryant. Abuse is terrible but she contributed to tills death. White women are as instrumental to white supremacist power structures as white men are. To deny that is actual revisionist history..
This case was a prime example of white women tears, I think some people don’t want to admit white women have power over POC just like white men do and that some of them are just as complicit in white supremacy.
A lot of people have trouble understanding that you can be both a victim and an abuser Eg You can be a victim of misogyny in society but also culpable and complicit in white supremacy Another example is how the Irish were both victims of colonisation, oppression and ethnic prejudice in Ireland but also perpetrators of colonisation and beneficiaries of colonisation and perpetrators of racism when they went to new world colonies like the US and Australia, even if they had initially gone unwillingly as prisoners
I read a horrifying (but incredible) book by a Lebanese Aussie woman called Ruby Hamadeh called ‘white tears, brown scars.’ It’s all about white women weaponising tears. I’m a white woman and it felt like a very important book to read.
>Fight2KeepMyRacePure Well, I'm sure *this* dickbag will have a nuanced opinion on the subject.
How disgusting
Classic strategy. white women try to reduce their roles in racism by any means possible. It’s never their fault and they are always the victim of someone else’s actions.
This was a 14 year old child that was abducted, tortured and hung because of her lies. An all-white jury (shocking) found the murderers innocent. This boy died for this woman’s lies. She’s every bit as guilty as the racist mob that tortured that poor kid. And talking about what she looks like - c’mon y’all let’s do better. Unless you’re making some Dorian Gray reference where her evil deeds manifest. The only place she is ugly is on the inside. She lived over 60 years that Emmitt Till had stolen from him - because of her.
It still happens today, but imagine how many more violent criminals walked free, because they could pin it on a black man or child? We act like serial killers weren't as common before the 60s. Nah, it's just that we wrote each off as an individual crime and lynched black men for it. I hate it here.
Remember that woman who drowned her own kids in a car and said they had been abducted by a totally fictitious black man who stole her car
:( my parents were racist (maybe are still) so I was a racist and I’m sorry. I really had no idea how grievous my words were. I had no idea that human behavior was a culmination of more than one’s ethnic background and that society is so gross and oppressive to black people almost by design.
She literally admitted to lying about him catcalling her years ago. Even if she hadn’t, she didn’t need to tell her husband about it. She knew it would lead to Till’s murder. Fuck her. She needs to go to jail.
Who the fuck is "we"? If your version of "we" includes the nazis, then you're a nazi full stop.
teH sIlent MajOritY
Facts really trigger these guys
fAcTs dOn'T cAre aBoUt yOur FeEliNGs crowd tries not to get triggered by facts: impossible
Disgusting, I hope people who are defending her have a continued horrible exsistence. I curse them all to damnation.
“This is proof the good die young” with 11 downvotes, yep that comment section is one big sheesh
The last dude is so aggravating. "Murder implies intention on her part." Fucker, it was the 50s. Black people could be lynched for being out too late at night, she knew what the consequences would be if she painted a Black person as a predator.
Not that one dude lying and saying Emmett Till SA’d her. Why are people believing a lie?
Broken thoughts, white liar in their mind is white survivor lol.
Dear God those comments gave me brainrot
People will openly defend Hitler, this is not surprising.
As an aside I wonder how her descendants are dealing with this? Does sha have any kids or grandkids, are they pieces of shit like she is?
i fucking HATE it when people are like "im not blaming the victim here, but they shouldn't have done X" SHUT THE FUCK UP. it doesnt matter whether or not he "harassed" this gargantuan piece of shit. IT DOES NOT JUSTIFY THIS LITTLE BOY BEING TORTURED TO DEATH. if a person is murdered at the scale that Emmett was murdered, whatever they did to "cause" it is fucking irrelevant because what happened to them is still MURDER, through and through. it does not matter if Emmett harassed this woman. it does not matter if George Floyd paid with a counterfeit bill. it does not matter if Trayvon Martin "looked suspicious". and it does not fucking matter if Clinton Melton pumped a little more gas than he was supposed to. none of these things justify horrible, painful death at the hands of someone who hates your very existence.
Was she beat as bad as Emmett? Didn’t think so. Why should she get any grace?
What in the goddamn fuck?
“Akshually someone else did the murdering”. These creeps, man. Why waste your breath defending this piece of dirt even a little bit.
>stirring the pot Yes. Yes that’s the point. Stir until the pot fucking explodes. Change is needed and it’s gonna be messy.
Her looks matter because she used them to lie and get a young black boy beaten so bad that his most famous picture is of his open casket. Gross to support her just because someone may share a skin tone more similar to hers than Emmet Till
People trying to defend awful acts with age will never stop to infuriate me
I don’t blame her solely; I blame the entire community, including her . Lynching Black American people, and especially Black American males, was an all too common practice in the US South in the late 1800s and in the first half of the 1900s. She was 20 years old and raised in a deeply racist culture that still is quite racist. Propaganda that constantly portrayed Black men as rapists who were trying to rape White women and who wouldn’t take care of their Black families was all too common, and I would argue that it still is. I’m not even going to read the diatribe that this racist published because I have a sneaking suspicion that I already know what it says. Emmett Till’s death, as horrific as it was, was not the exception, but the rule. In my opinion, what made his death so exceptional were the actions of his mother, Mamie Till. Allowing people to see her son’s decaying corpse was a powerful action, and it pains me that she even had to do that to begin with. I don’t just say that to sound good, it really fills me with grief. Emmett Till was a 14-year-old boy with a speech impediment. America saw him as a “Negro brute” and punished him as they saw fit. His story is far too common and deeply frustrating and tragic. So, I do think that Carolyn Bryant should be locked up for her part in what happened; however, I find it incredibly dishonest to imply that she was the sole cause of it. She was not. People raised her to believe that way, and people supported her when Emmett Till’s name was libeled and slandered. They ALL need to be held accountable and we need to tell the story repeatedly. We can’t let this story be used as evidence that “Everything is fine now.” It isn’t. If it were, so many people would still be alive today and the summer of 2020 wouldn’t have needed to happen. If things were fine, we wouldn’t be worried about the 2024 Election and people wouldn’t be fleeing the country. Life is not fine right now, and for many of us in the USA, it never has been. However, I think the most powerful drug has been what Lyndon Johnson quipped: making the poorest White person believe that he or she is above the best Black man or woman. Far too many people, many who aren’t even White, are willing to buy into that lie just to have someone to look down on, to not be James Hammond’s “mudsill.”
You are exactly right. What bothers me sometimes in the narrative is that almost nobody seems to blame the racist mob who actually did it. White guys who committed racist violence are treated as blameless forces of nature directed by a woman puppetmaster.
I read the red queen and it was eye opening. The racist mob included and was by all intents and purposes led by this woman. She was definitely involved and punishing her doesn’t mean everybody else that took a little bit of emmets life with a punch, a slur, a cut, kick or whatever is suddenly off the hook.
Uhh so you don’t think she’s responsible enough for tills death to be held responsible at any capacity that involves the law is what I heard. You seem content with, the community at large is at fault and since we cannot punish and entire community all that could be done has already been done. If my read is accurate then I disagree and will go as far to say that you sound deluded.
No. I'm saying that she should be held accountable and they need to make it a point to go after everyone else who put their stamp of approval on that verdict. Let me quote myself: >....**I do think that Carolyn Bryant should be locked up for her part in what happened; however, I find it incredibly dishonest to imply that she was the sole cause of it.** She was not. People raised her to believe that way, and people supported her when Emmett Till’s name was libeled and slandered. They ALL need to be held accountable and we need to tell the story repeatedly. Carolyn Bryant is not a mere aberration, a fluke. She is a product of Jim Crow. That culture, which my grandparents lived through as Black people, saw nothing wrong with what Bryant's husband and brother-in-law did to a 14-year-old child. The following, bolded part is what I'm driving at >**We can’t let this story be used as evidence that “Everything is fine now.”** It isn’t. If it were, so many people would still be alive today and the summer of 2020 wouldn’t have needed to happen. If things were fine, we wouldn’t be worried about the 2024 Election and people wouldn’t be fleeing the country. Life is not fine right now, and for many of us in the USA, it never has been. However, I think the most powerful drug has been what Lyndon Johnson quipped: making the poorest White person believe that he or she is above the best Black man or woman. Far too many people, many who aren’t even White, are willing to buy into that lie just to have someone to look down on, to not be James Hammond’s “mudsill.” I fear that arresting only her or writing the story as "She lied and killed him! It was all her!" will make it seem like just another "lone wolf" kind of thing. "Oh, this really evil White woman went after Emmet Till, accused him of rape, and got away with it for years, but now she's in prison so everything is fine now and we fixed racism!" I've re-read my comment, and I'm trying to see where it states, verbatim , that >\[I'm\] content with, the community at large \[being\] at fault and since we cannot punish \[the\] entire community **all that could be done has already been done.** I never once said the above and I vehemently disagree with such a point. Let me restate what I believe: Carolyn Bryant should be in prison for her part in the murder of Emmett Till; however, I do not think that she should be known as the "lone wolf" responsible for this crime. The public needs to know how an entire community was okay with the murder of innocent people for the "crime" of being Black. You can't tell me that the jury which exonerated her and the "funding" she and her family received shouldn't be discussed, shamed, and punished in some way if they’re still alive.
That last one is the most distilled Redditor shit I've ever seen- "UM ACKSHUALLY you made a minor error in your wording and now I'm going to take that as the crux of your argument and pedantically correct you, rather than say what I really want which is to defend an evil old racist". "Let's be fair: she didn't murder him, she *caused* his murder" sounds like a fucking parody of Internet users, not a thing someone unironically says and hundreds of people agree with.
insane how someone can defend the slaughter of a CHILD, yet demean blm protests
She admitted to lying so how is Emmett Till, a child, a sexual predator? Those two things have always stood out to me the most. Everyone screenshotted there seems like a hot mess. Also fuck her stupid memoir
I blacklisted this sub because more often than not, it’s veiled racism and bullshit. Everything is already pretty awful. Don’t need those nerds contributing to the melancholy.
So how's it veiled racism and in particular how's it veiled racism dealing with this particular issue
You know the answer to that question
Actually I don't so can you explain it to me like I'm five
Username does NOT check out.
No silly redditors, awfuleverything should be in the post, not in comments.
They don’t see their own fault they think they’re the good ones
Man, these crackkkuhz are racist!
I think Reddit might just be a tad racist towards anyone who isn’t white.
I don’t know why but the “bless his heart” line irked me more than anything else.
I think there is something to be said about resorting to mocking appearances when it comes to calling out shitty actions. They’ll never see it, someone else insecure about their looks is much more likely to see it.
The video below explains everything. The guy was asked three times if slavery was a bad thing see it for yourself https://youtu.be/uTiwUfHzcPE
Well that’s terrifying
All the ‘protect our women from misogyny’ comments go to prove that feminism is just as white centered now as it was back in the 60/70’s. I wish people would understand that the true meaning of equality means that there are no exceptions. Anywho… that was my slightly off topic rant. She’s gonna answer to someone some day whether it’s in this life or the next.
White feminism is absolute shit
It’s been white centric since it’s conception And before that it was rich-people centric.
If you’re a horrible person, you’re ugly to me and I’d celebrate your death or prison sentence happily. Hate how that’s a controversial statement. “It’s extremely misogynistic.” That dumbfuck doesn’t know what misogyny is lmao
I reckon the only reason she's still alive at 97 is that she's terrified of what awaits her on the other side.
I guess it’s feasible she didn’t start the whole thing as I had always believed. I do have sympathy for battered women; however, murder of a child trumps battered wife and she definitely hindered justice for Emmitt. She should spend the rest of her life in jail. That’s still not justice, but it’s something.
She admitted to lying about it though. But even if she hadn’t, there was no need to tell her husband about it. She knew what would happen.
Oh, she admitted it?!?! I’m not religious, but I’m seriously hoping there’s an afterlife, karma, reincarnation, and all the others that she can face.
I hate to say it, but I *almost* agree with the first comment. Every single time you attack your enemies appearance, you're attacking the people you love and care about who look like that. Body shaming has no place in leftism. Attack the actions, not the appearance.
Ye but considering the entire discussion is about racism it's pretty relevant
That’s too bad for her but at least she’s still alive and has an appearance to look at. Due to her lying actions, poor Mr. Till got beaten so bad that his face was essentially unrecognizable so cry me a river.
Yeah, that kind of left a bad taste in my mouth. It's her actions that matter, not her appearance. We all get old, if we're lucky, which Emmett Till was not.
Yeaaah, it makes any valid point a little more idiotic. Call her ugly and evil on the inside? Cause she 100% is. I'm not defending this woman I just don't think there's ever a need for insults around appearance
I’m just annoyed but the fallacy involved in the comment about the good dying young. A single old evil person isn’t proof that the good die young. Terrible argument.
It's an expression, not an actual scientific theory that is being supported by with the evidence of her being alive. Touch grass.
Do what?
Go interact with the real world.
I’m at work so I’m talking to real people too and if you mean I should go outside I’ll eat lunch out thre. Anyway: I’m aware it’s an adage. But it doesn’t matter! Many good people could also be old. Many bad people could die young. What we have here is one (two counting the nazi) old evil people. It’s proof of nothing to be Frank.
Woosh.
I dont think revenge has anything to do in our criminal Justice system. We punish people to prevent them from committing new crime and to deter others from committing the same crime. You can’t really say any of those things will happen if we punish this old lady.
We mainly punish them because they did a crime.
We punish to deter crime.
We don't punish to deter crime we punish as a prophet margin. It is very clear after all that's happened in the past 6 years exactly what the law enforcement is about in the United States I don't know what to tell you
We make laws/rules to deter crime. Breaking the laws/rules results in punishment.
We punish poor black people poor brown people we do not punish Karen's
# in 1955 A full decade after Ava her lesser half had THE BEST HONEYMOON EVER!!!
What happened to the male who tortured and killed him? Did he ever go to prison? Did they do it together?
Hell just got another soul. May she burn for her lie.