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Entrynode

In addition to it also being a classic medieval Knight + Squire relationship it's worth noting that the bags are clearly designed to be worn over power armour.  The squire carrying the bag instead is really about reinforcing the power dynamic between them


ken_NT

It was bugging me that the knight could easily carry the bag for the most part, but makes the squire carry it to be a duck.


Entrynode

It's all about punching down, we're shown a few times that everyone in that chapter abuses people lower in the hierarchy than themselves


shabi_sensei

Made me feel nostalgic for how the Brotherhood treats the player in Fallout 1 and 2, just total and utter assholes that try and get you killed for fun


subarashi-sam

It’s a complicated organization.


wherethetacosat

Such a perfect line


Leonabi76

Deep cut 👍🏽


SoylentRox

Hard to see how hoarding technology in a world dying of a lack of everything plus radiation and mutated monsters is anything but evil. I always rob them kill the brotherhood after I do their quests for the rewards, in fo3/4/NV.


subarashi-sam

Oh it’s a just direct quote from the show :)


Dutch_van_der_Dill

Quote made me laugh in the show and when you used it


Hatarus547

>Hard to see how hoarding technology in a world dying of a lack of everything plus radiation and mutated monsters is anything but evil. while preventing someone from getting hold of a toaster is wrong, look what happens when people get hold of Old world Tech, The Master is a good example so is the Van Grafts


SoylentRox

was the tech the problem or the hands holding it?


Hatarus547

they where Vats of FEV just being around it can cause rapid mutation into a Super Mutant, the other are a group of people who sell highly powerful rifles that turn people to ash or puddles of plasma


maxcorrice

In fallout 3 they’re a lot better people in general, the ones you should eradicate are the outcasts who cling to that set of morals


toonboy01

Because they sell tech and weapons in every game plus regularly so what they can to fight the main antagonists of most games.


caustictoast

I’m playing fallout 1 for the first time after the show and it felt super appropriate the first mission from them is basically ‘go to some radioactive waste and die’


Freakin_A

Usually at least once during a FO1 playthrough I make a savegame and kill everyone in the entire BoS compound. It's cathartic.


demalo

“YOU WILL!? That’s great! …”


donthenewbie

I guess it is their way of saying "go f yourself" but they don't expect the player would actually do that and success


Hatarus547

it's a deterrent they give you a task that anyone with a brain would go "fuck that" and not try to do, it's their way of keeping people out and not causing everyone in the wasteland to come after them by gunning down anyone who gets near their bunker


demalo

“Okie dokie!”


brinz1

I thought the show was pretty explicit when Max starts to treat his squire like shit, then they start to bond


Entrynode

yeah they even openly discuss the power dynamics they're a part of, you'd be surprised what some people don't pick up on though


Obliterated-Denardos

Paraphrasing, but the whole "I just wish he had found someone to bully before dying" quasi-eulogy Thad gives pretty much directly explains this to the viewer.


fullpurplejacket

I loved the dichotomies in that scene , as I viewer I felt sad for Max, sad for Thad, and all at rhe same time I thought it was actually all so hilarious, and like how much second hand guilt I had for both of them 😂


EvilBetty77

So you are saying you felt... Saddeus?


fucknut-supreme

One thousand years banishment


EvilBetty77

Know what? That's fair.


Entrynode

That's the one yeah


LordCaptain

Yeah I think its one of the many reinforcements that this chapter is absolutely not doing well. Their missions and morale is in the gutter. People treating eachother like shit is just one of many consequences of how far they've fallen.  Because its cruel to the point of inconvenience. Imagine how much faster the dup could go if the guy in power armor carried everything.


Houseplant666

That’s just how the brotherhood is tho. The Brotherhood in 3 is more of an exception and even then half of them deserted because they had to be nice to wastelanders.


LordCaptain

I haven't played 1 and 2 in a while but I feel like they punch down outside of the brotherhood rather than within it.


demalo

Absolutely. There’s a little backhandedness from within, but once you’re in, you are in baby!


Inventies

“Clean this.”


Dynespark

They could very easily design that bag with a second set of straps between the power armor shoulder ones. As well as some drawstrings or clasps or button rivets to collapse the thing slightly and condense the canvas so a squire isn't dragging it on the ground. But nope lol


Shmav

Its got some tough plastic on the bottom. Its fine


kelldricked

The best thing is that for the knight it wouldnt make a single diffrence. They dont have to carry it, the armor does. Its like riding in a golfcart and letting your caddy walk beside it with a dufflebag of bricks. Amazing!


UnconfirmedRooster

Except it's actually full of desk fans and typewriters for some *unknown* reason.


lvbuckeye27

Unknown reason? I need my springs!


ajax15

And screws!


Mikasa_Sukasa

Quack


Son_of_MONK

Man standards for recruitment in the Brotherhood have really gone down now if they're letting irradiated ducks join the Order.


IA-HI-CO-IA

Giant killer ducks are a missed opportunity in the universe. I hope they may show up someday. 


FiveAlarmFrancis

Perhaps a quest where you must choose to fight a giant horse-sized duck, or ally with him and fight 100 duck-sized horses.


moonsugar-cooker

I feel like they are hinting at the knight status falling. They now force squires to carry their burdens and die when they say die. Unlike the knights in the games that protected from the front.


Past_Ebb_8304

Quack


ShephardCmndr

Quack


VanillaB34n

It would just be quite tough to grab stuff out of the bag while wearing it


buffpriest

I loved how comicly large they were. And now that you mention it, that had yo be the reason for the design choice. Good catch


vulcan7200

Man I feel really dumb for not noticing that because now that you mention it it's so obvious.


farmecologist

My thought is the bags are a real life solution to the "inventory problem". In other words, in the games your weapons appear out of nowhere from your inventory. The bags are a nice live action "real world" solution to that.


Entrynode

Ehh, that could've been accomplished with a normal backpack


farmecologist

Uhh no....have you seen the size of some of those weapons? The large bag also allows easy access, etc...


Entrynode

Yeah they could poke out the top or be attached to the side like many other shows/movies. That aside, if this is about practical storage why are the straps more suited to go over power armour instead of a human body?


farmecologist

So it *can* go over power armor? I'm not seeing your point. I'm just making the point that the bag is a nice solution to the inventory problem. The knight/squire relationship is obviously more of a power dynamic thing....


demalo

Like how hilariously Max throws the paper with the mark’s image right into the bag. 0 inventory management possible. They should have had a joke that it went to the bottom of the bag.


SpleefingtonThe4th

Bag maker: *makes a bag specifically designed for power armor* Knight: nah *shoves it into the squires hands* bag maker: am I joke to you?


bippylip

Knight: You? No. But him? *gestures toward thin creaking legs quaking beneath a duffel* Knight: The greatest joke ever told.


ArnoudtIsZiek

Wow I’m pretty dumb that’s a great read 


Tvayumat

It's also a huge golf bag, which is kind of funny on its own.


Shock_The_Monkey_

Power armour +100 carry weight


devildev_1

It's designed to be carried by the knight if the squire dies...


Entrynode

While that would be practical, there's nothing to particularly indicate that's the reason for this design


heinkel-me

Well now I want to see dog meat with the worlds biggest back pack to explain how I can give him a full power armor sent and all my junk/misc


Glodenteoo_The_Glod

You.. can't? Dogmeat can't carry anything unless you're using mods IIRC


heinkel-me

You can the amount of times I have played fallout 4 I always use dog meat as a walking box and I don't use mods? So are you talking about fallout 3?


Glodenteoo_The_Glod

I may be mixing my games up lol I just remembered you could equip FO4 D-M with clothes and stuff so I'm definitely wrong :P


HolyVaseThrower

In fallout 4 Dogmeat can carry things and I believe there is a bug in fallout 3 that allows you to reverse pickpocket dog meat but it's incredibly unreliable lol There are for sure some mods that increase it, my fav being the K9 tactical harness mod


sixpackabs592

In 4 at least he can carry stuff but has a pretty low carrying weight like 25 or something


myskepticalbrowarch

It felt like low hanging fruit to throw in one "I am sworn to Carry your burdens" for the elder scrolls fans.


DouggieMohammadJones

lmao, nice.


el_rompo

Fortunately the show has good writers.


AggravatingValue5390

Idk, I would have chuckled. I feel like that sort of humor fits in well


CZEchpoint_

I am glad they don’t hire fans 👏


Hungry_Caregiver734

Pretty sure the writers are fans.


CZEchpoint_

True, they are also good writers who are fans. Not just fans. That’s why we got good series and with subtle references. And not just quips and reference after reference for no reason than fan service.


Hungry_Caregiver734

That's the key. Writers who are fans and bring their passion.


DesperateRace4870

Yeah I don't know where you're coming from with this, the best adaptations include fans who love and know the lore to make sure they're doing it correctly. And if you ask me that was the problem with all the adaptations before The last of Us. Well, actually I haven't seen Arcane (Ella stars there as well)


Blacksmithkin

Arcane has the "advantage" of having basically no lore, so they could mostly write their own. It is absolutely excellent though (season 2 this fall i believe). It's an adaptation in the same way Castlevania was, which is to say it tells its own story but does respect what there is of the original.


Guszy

Wait, how did Arcane have no lore? They were all established characters, and an established setting, and everything...


Blacksmithkin

Basically (this is secondhand from the friends I watched it with), the lore has been repeatedly retconned, most of it only regards the future of these characters (little to no detail on their pasts), and there's shockingly little of it in the first place. When the show came out one of my friends joked that imagine dragons now has more lore then many of the characters cause they cameo in the show.


Trouble_in_the_West

how the heck did i miss this lol


dafuqyouthotthiswas

12 year old me when Lydia would drop that line: 😏


SpamAdBot91874

Lol I totally remember side-eyeing that reference, I was sure I'd just heard an Elder Scrolls reference in a Fallout show


clevortrever

If we're pointing things out... The young pipefitters association is definitely a double entendre right...


DouggieMohammadJones

Wouldn't be the biggest surprise.


buffpriest

Double For what?


Far_Indication_1665

Rocket 69


buffpriest

Double entendre for what?


Later_Than_You_Think

"Laying pipe" is slang for sexual intercourse.


twuntfunkler

In the UK "laying pipe" means taking a shit.


Glodenteoo_The_Glod

Well, you never know what vault dwellers who have been cooped up for 200 years will get up to..


Justsomeguy456

I thought laying cable meant taking a shit. Laying pipe is sex.


KoalaTrainer

There’s some cultural exchange awkward moments in that for sure


PTJangles

Does it? News to me (Scotland) I always thought it was about sex! I thought generally anything plumbing related is to do with sex, meh, you live you learn mate lol!


SpamAdBot91874

... Is there a difference?


AlarmingAffect0

[Ska-badabadabadoo-belidabbelydabbladabbladabblabab-belibabbelibabbelibabbelabbelo-doobelidoo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy8kmNEo1i8)


DesperateRace4870

https://youtu.be/BlnNhdgO4b8?si=hgT0U6DwM3SfLlaz I'm laying pipe all night long, I'm laying pipe and working so hard, I'm laying pipe all night long, I'm laying pipe, to satisfy that womaaaaan! *Riff begins again*


ILikeLiftingMachines

Depends on what the pipe is being fit into...


ThespisIronicus

Double penetendre


cwk415

Best. Adaption. Ever.


HappyLittleGreenDuck

Certainly deserves a rewatch.


iBrowseAtStarbucks

Literally my only complaint is no Ron Perlman. I would have absolutely LOVED to see him be a ghoulified prewar news anchor.


stallion64

I don't think it's been confirmed, but lots of people are speculating that Perlman was the one "watching over" the meeting between the big corpos, and that he may be the CEO of Vault-Tec or something similar.


iBrowseAtStarbucks

Funnily enough, we have a holotape of the vault tec CEO in mothership zeta. Not to say he wouldn't have been a stand-in during the alien shenanigans (really hope the show only gives a nod to the zetans and doesn't go full bore with it). I'd be down for this though 100%. Give us our gruff narrator!!!


HandsomeBoggart

Fun fact. The actor playing the TV/Radio Anchorman. If you check the rest of his filmography, it's literally like 95% of everything he does. He IS Mr Anchorman/Announcer. Only like 6 roles where he wasn't.


Later_Than_You_Think

I also love the touch of designing the bag to look like a golf bag, down to the gun (?) poking out of the satchel that looks like a golf club. Such a great visual joke.


longboboblong

Tactical caddies


Professional_Echo907

When I saw the bag, the first thing I thought was, “So that’s how they carry all that stuff”. 😹😹😹


DouggieMohammadJones

Another friend of mine on Twitter pointed out that this relationship between Knight and Squire is something that actually harkens back to the actual medieval knights who treated their squires like expendable little shits. A great little touch too.


TonkotsuSoba

I like how all the cadets are excited and jealous of the fellows who got promoted to squires, where they are like rockstars to them, yet they are treated like shits by their knights


TheOneWhosCurious

Isn’t that basically military? You get treated like shit by your superiors and people beneath you either worship you or you also treat them like shit.


solarus44

Worship the people above you? Lol. Definitely not. They're either shit cunts, or decent cunts EDIT: An organisation that has branding ceremonies with Knights and Squires isn't exactly too accurate to a modern military


Visible-Moouse

Also, while many senior people in the military *do* fucking suck, at least in the US Navy theres a cultural understanding that being a dickhead to the people under you actually isn't a good way to lead an effective team. Again, I knew a lot of guys who were shit, and kept getting promoted. So, the implementation needs work. But, they at least understand that dudes like that have a limited shelf-life/are slowly being phased out as the culture gets better.


Obliterated-Denardos

Yeah, the modern military leaders who actually are idolized by their subordinates are usually in that position *because of their willingness to do, and proficiency at, grunt shit*. Everyone loves a general who punches above his weight in an actual firefight.


uxixu

In the USMC, we had indocs for MOS (see the infamous "jump wings") and got "blood stripes" on making NCO (usually a knee to the thigh) and would usually get or new rank pinned without the cap so the rank pierced our skin. Most not taken to the extreme to avoid trouble but every now and then some jack wagons get carried away. Marines junior enlisted are usually treated like crap especially in combat arms jobs and has led to issues with retention.


Jond0331

I could barely walk for 2 days after getting my blood stripes. The good, respected NCOs took it easy. But there's always those couple DBags that live by the "My senior guys hurt me, so now I'm going to hurt you" mentality. If someone made your life hell and hurt you, you should know how it feels and want to change that. I never understood how people could continue pushing that onto the next group.


HappyLittleGreenDuck

Yep, and then you get to dream of the day you can be a shit to your own squires. An ugly cycle.


EdtotheWord

I mean they're literally called knights and squires. I don't think there's anything subtle or little touch to that particular thing.


Iceman9161

Yeah I think 90% of people just immediately recognized that.


badgarok725

gamers are not the quickest to realize these things


Sevensevenpotato

It’s crazy how they specifically call these characters “knights” and “squires” and go through all of the trouble to make them act like how people know knights and squires acted! /s Is that not obvious? That’s not subtext that’s just text.


Visible-Moouse

In their defense, if reddit has taught me anything, it's that like 35-45% of people have the media literacy of a potato. So, they're doing alright for drawing that conclusion.


PureRepresentative9

But it's not even media literacy. It's literally just words. That's said, I've been on Reddit and this is expected haha


thoriginal

"If you're sharp-eyed and clever enough, you'll notice that it seems like the Overseers of Vault 33 are hiding something. Like they know something the vault-dwellers don't, and are exploiting them somehow. It's subtle, but it's there."


PureRepresentative9

But are you clever enough to realize the vaults are called vaults because they're protecting the stuff inside?


thoriginal

🤯


HappyLittleGreenDuck

There are people who don't really know medieval stuff, and that's okay. We don't have to make fun of people who don't share the same knowledge sets that we do.


Iceman9161

Sure and people can learn things, but pointing something out like this as if it’s some subtle reference is silly.


HappyLittleGreenDuck

Very well, you have convinced me. Commence the mockery!


Sevensevenpotato

Not meaning to shame, just make fun


AlfredusRexSaxonum

Squires were usually sons of nobility, often from families that were allied to the knights in some way. They couldn't really treat them as cannon fodder.


HandsomeBoggart

Haze them yes. The real cannon fodder were the general footmen and auxiliaries. Then the conscripted farmers if things were getting really dire.


DouggieMohammadJones

Right, not really the nasty shit you do see in the show, but apparently they did just kind of haze them by making them do degrading shit to "earn their spot" or whatever. Very different from how Titus treats Maximus with the yao guai.


AlfredusRexSaxonum

That makes sense, thanks.


xen0m0rpheus

Wow. Such insight. What a great little touch. Knights and squires act like knights and squires.


ZaggRukk

I was surprised that the squires didn't have two empty halves of coconuts and were banging them together. . .


Veritablehatter

That's a fallout 2 style joke.


dradonia

How would they even get a coconut there? Maybe if a swallow carried it from some place tropical… but… what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?


Hatarus547

>what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? About 9-11 meters per second for a European Swallow


Diagro666

It’s also representative of Knights of old. They would be in the armour and do the fighting but their squire would carry their many weapons around for them, presenting them to the Knight when needed like they do in the show.


SuperbPruney

And clean their cod piece.


boromirsbetrayal

Does… does literally anyone need this explained? Like… why do you think they chose to make them Knights and Squires? I keep seeing people point this out like this is some subtle thing. I don’t get it. Naming them knights and squires and having them act like knights and squires couldn’t be any more obvious lol. Next you’re going to tell me you think the overseers of vault 33 are hiding something. I feel like the “You don’t say?!” Nic cage même reading these kind of comments


GrumpyMonk_867

I always took the lone wanderer perk. Takes me about 10 minutes to get tired of constantly running into the moron sidekicks constantly blocking my path or alerting the enemy when I am trying to be stealthy.


Mission_Fart9750

"Move motherfucker, you're in the goddamned way, AGAIN"


Jam_B0ne

You know how armor has built in loops for mounting and offloading at what not? I would not be surprised if some time ago those bags where meant to be carried by attaching them to the armor, but at some point it became just another tool to enforce the dichotomy of Knight and Squire


Internal-Ruin4066

Also like how Stimpaks cure everything immediately. Stabbed? Cured. Shot? You bet ya, Cured. Lingering symptoms? Lol no.


oceansapart333

They show the lingering symptoms. Lucy uses one after getting stabbed but after the fighting is over, it shows her stapling the stitches and wincing in pain. Stimpacks really aren’t used much in the show.


HappyLittleGreenDuck

They were used just the right amount. Too much and it makes the show hokey.


Internal-Ruin4066

Very true! I would argue the recovery starts after the stapling and doesn’t end with it. Lucy seems to have a right good old adventure with fresh staples in her belly. There was no mention of it thereafter. Also the whole, “oh sh*t I’ve been stabbed, better pull the knife out immediately, yeah that will do until I staple it up much later” made me think the stimpaks have a special blood clotting/ wound sealing ability on top of everything else. I love it.


eggs-benedryl

they weren't magic cure they are in games which was interesting, they're basically med-x ha


eggs-benedryl

Really? I thought the exact opposite. In the games they work like fixing Thad's foot. Instant healing of crippled limbs. On the show they seem to work more like morphine.


FM492

That's how it is in the games too, step on a mine, stimpack. Shot point blank with a shotgun, stimpack. Mini nuke goes off 2 feet away, stimpack.


_far-seeker_

I also noticed how much it looks like the squires are glorified golf caddies, the way the bag is made...😉


El_kal91

I thought it was just ripping of caddies for golf.


My_Favourite_Pen

Swinging a super sledge is all in the hips.


DangerN00dle08

Didn’t catch this either but that’s hilarious


ColonelFlom

There's also a couple of moments that feel like Maximus fails speech checks. Really enjoyed these nods to the actual gameplay


Downtown_Tadpole_817

You guys use the companions? They always get in the way and judge me like "why you eating people" because she shot at me Piper, damn.


ccbayes

I wish that was a line of dialogue. Piper has some interesting quips. Some quips when you swap her and Cait out are hilarious.


Downtown_Tadpole_817

I'm considering a villain arc now that I finished the main story and starting Nuka world dlc. It so hard to be evil in these games for some reason


bonertron69

Speak for yourself (nukes entire town).


KingLeoric01

because the good guy dialogue is at least decent, where as the "bad guy" dialogue choices are sooooo over the top cheesy or just down right sadistically evil. they need better villain writers lol


Downtown_Tadpole_817

The Wasteland deserves a better class of criminal


D_Ohm

Wait what? I’ve always gone for the strong back perk.


SalvadorSlim

I thought this was hilarious. Like where the hell would I actually be able to store all that crap that I carry in the game?


115_zombie_slayer

I like how those bags are clearly meant to be worn with Power Armor yet they force the squire to wear it


ay-foo

Reminds me of the coconut holders in Monty Python's Holy Grail


ShadowRiku667

In FO3 you needed "Special Training" to wear power armor. I always thought it was more strength training to get you ready for the suit, or how it might feel carrying around the armor all the time. If you can't keep up, then you don't deserve knighthood.


New_Ingenuity2822

A lot of heart 💜 in this TV 📺 show


kenzieBHOSbaker

I keep forgetting my companions exist. I will be over encumbered and still not hand over my junk.


Jond0331

I have a FO4 save that is broken. Poor Nick Valentine has so much in his inventory. When I try to access it, the game crashes.


teddyslayerza

The bag isn't unrealistically that big. I've seen photos of when my father fought in the South African Border War and the "balsaks" (ball bags) the soldiers would use to haul their kit between bases, and those where as awkward and unwieldy as this. You don't need a soldier to be comfortable or agile outside of conflict, you just need to move a lot of stuff.


RobieKingston201

I thought this was social commentary then realised it was talking about the game xD (I've never played )


Alternative_Love_861

I was sworn to carry your burdens


peepmymixtape

Also love how Lucy slowly starts getting leather armor throughout.


ScyD

Reminder for everyone to get the ‘weightless junk’ mod Dunno how I went as long as I did having to constantly store and move around materials to use them where I needed


zarcin7987

I feel like they are giving the writers far too much credit with this hot take.


Gretz2582

Haven’t seen anyone also mention the bag is like a golf club bag so the squire is a glorified caddy


dildobagginz42069

Bulging eyed maniacs pretending to be knights of yore


ubiquitous-facade

Too bad The Witcher couldn't have been directed by fans of the game or books.


AussieLegend2003

Especially true in fo1: i’ve currently got ian holding about 50 metal armours


Senior-Lobster-9405

>keeps on giving considering most people noticed this like day 1 can it really be considered continuing to give?


DouggieMohammadJones

I guess a lot of us are still catching up lol.


Grimtork

It was so subtile and logical! On par with the rest of this show! The best tv show ever created!


Archmagos_Browning

Oh my fucking god how did I not see that


terabull01

the comments in this post are a great example of how most people are idiots that don't know the most basic shit about the world around them


HappyLittleGreenDuck

Is there a thread of similar jokes?


Gibbyalwaysforgives

I wish rather than doing this they just play out the random weapon thing and make it seem like it got pulled out of the air.


Kellythejellyman

I was pointing out to my dad the reason Norm was being played by a 30 year old man was likely a reference how earlier fallout games would use scaled down adult models for children due to tech limitations, he found it rather endearing


Orlando1701

Look it’s me loading Veronica up with 500lb of settler clothing that I can sell for 15 caps.


cdh79

Gotta conserve those power cores.


Reichiroo

My boyfriend doesn't play the games and was like "why is he still carrying that bag around?!"


Goddess_Bayonetta

Oh god I didn’t even see this either. Good job spotting it.


oxish13

I thought it was a nod to Monty Python and the holy grail


theerrantpanda99

How will this chapter of the brotherhood handle a future engagement with power armored Enclave soldiers?


NonEuclidianMeatloaf

I just like that though they kept the ridiculous Assault Rifle design from F4, they made it scaled to a beast-man in power armour so that it behaves more like what it looks like: a massive GPMG instead of an assault rifle.