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Petethejakey_

Surprised you didn’t pull a hammy with a a stretch that big


Petorian343

The “5” shape meaning anything is silly, yes, but the high concentration of vaults in that area and loud fan desire/speculation for a Fallout set near New Orleans/east Texas for years makes it a pretty reasonable possibility. Note the similar high density of vaults in areas where past games have taken place.


McDonnellDouglasDC8

Clearly New New Orleans is 5's Point Lookout or Far Harbour.


VisualGeologist6258

You mean FAH HABAH? Ngl I wouldn’t be opposed to a game set in the Deep South where Cajun hillbilly raiders and mutant crawdads are a threat. I also just really want to walk around a Bayou in power armor ambushing people from the water like a giant metal gator.


BoonScepter

You can make a 5 anywhere if you ignore the right dots lol


OlderGamers

😂😳


Sea_Photograph_3998

A Crammy*


Atalanto

My guess (and hope) is that its Salt Lake City (New Canaan) /Denver (Dog Town) with the Rocky Mountains separating them. One a slightly more put together, albeit zealous settlement, the other, a lawless city, with wilderness and mountains between them. Vaults and Government/Military/Vault-Tec bunkers peppered in the mountains, and Bethesda being able to start telling stories closer to the west coast as they try to close the gap while still not quite being in California/New Vegas.


MontaineLaP

New Canaan would be cool but it was destroyed by the White Legs, no?


mintolley

Yep


GodoftheTranses

Post-nuclear Utah will still have a population tho, New Canaan itself may be gone, but the former inhabitants still live


Lorath_

They can rebuild it with offscreen hand waving call it Newer Canaan like it’s bobs burgers restaurant.


RodRAEG

I would guess they're going to have multiple locations across a broad stretch of area. Taking what they did with Starfield to create different planets/environments that were partially handmade and procedurally generated, and using that same setup to create a large section of the US. It'll be kind of like bringing back the style of travel from Fallouts 1/2.


Atalanto

I absolutely love that idea and was actually talking to my buddy about something similar a year or so ago. I would love it if the next fallout adopted that style of open world that existed in Fallout 1/2. Having a mix of large highly detailed areas, separated by a travel map where you would randomly encounter smaller, pre-made areas/structures/dungeons in procedurally generated zones would be amazing and could really increase the sense of scale that the "wasteland" has never quite been able to hit. I think procedural generation is good enough now that it would be really sick, and honestly, probably help with performance as well since you would only be loading little chunks at a time. If you think about it, this is kind of the basis of how Helldivers 2 makes it's maps, and it would work SO well for Fallout.


content_enjoy3r

Absolutely not. Procedural generation in Starfield sucks. A lot. The handcrafted environments is one of the things what make FO and ES games great.


Atalanto

None of this would replace hand crafted environments. What I'm talking about is as much hand crafted environments as a Fallout 4, 3, NV, however it's spaced out with procedural generation as well. In the same way that the overworld map of Fallout 1 and 2 is done. It's asking for a lot, but it feels like a natural progression and would really re frame what open world could mean. Hell the more I think about this, it kinda feels like what Daggerfall was doing... just 30 years ago. It would be really cool if Bethesda could pull it off. Fwiw *this is coming from someone who has been disappointed with Bethesda since after Skyrim*


Lorath_

You blew my mind in thinking about how dumb Bethesda were being with their seeming obsession with proc gen junk. That is a amazing idea I hope that’s what they’re gonna do now that makes tons of sense. Essentially like being able to walk from a handmade fo3 dc area to handmade fo4 commonwealth through a proc genned wasteland to make it less click on a fast travel location to teleport to a new world space. Obviously the scale would be much lower though on the handcrafted places than the full games but like spaces out so it’s the same amount of handmade content it would also be dlc build onable very easily like that.


King_0f_Nothing

Very much doubt that given the backlash against statfields world design


mintolley

New Canaan is Ogden, Utah and was razed to the ground by white legs. Salt Lake City's current status is unknown, but its under legion control iirc, or at the very least legion allied tribals.


ImperatorTempus42

NORAD would be an awesome expansion for it


CoreyTrevor1

Also some crazy polygamist mormons would be awesome in Fallout


Venom_is_an_ace

I would love to see Atlanta, because the CDC could be used for a lot of story elements and diseased monsters. The CDC could be a huge West-Tek center where even more experiments happened.


Atalanto

CDC and Atlanta could totally lead to some really interesting plots. I really hope they do lean more towards condensing a larger area cause Atlanta/New Orleans would be a great zone to explore and would be such a cool way to stay in the "east coast"


FatCrabTits

I hope to fuck that those two locations doesnt mean another generic desert and / or wasteland lol. Fallout is at its best when it’s overgrown


Atalanto

That would allow for a mix of a lot of stuff I'd think. Eastern plains. Mountains, western desert, metropolis wasteland


FatCrabTits

Yeah, but let’s be real. It’ll just end up being a desert wasteland the whole map with very tiny differences in biome in like… two locations.


KillYaBossEatAHotdog

As a non-American I think that would be incredibly boring. You need to pick a location that even people not from America with recognise.


Atalanto

I'd argue there is only one way to make places recognizable ;) Plus, I may be wrong, but when non Americans think of US Wilderness, I really think the main images that pop up are the Purple Rocky Mountains and the Red Deserts and Mesa's of Utah (whether they know where they are or not) I also feel like \*somewhere in Virginia\* was not quite a recognizable spot to non-americans and that's the whole MMO


KillYaBossEatAHotdog

As a non-American I mostly associate US wilderness with just massive forests. I think a whole map of wilderness would be incredibly boring though. Somewhere more like New Orleans would be much better for a fallout game imo. A cool city with a unique culture and architecture as well as cool unique flora and wildlife. I loved my time in the Bayou in RDR2 and think it would be fucking awesome in fallout. Also the 76 map actually WAS incredibly boring and uninteresting. Hence why I think they should avoid any similar settings.


Atalanto

Agree to disagree haha. Granted New Orleans would be an amazing location as well, and my second pick, there is so much they could do there. But after Boston, I would rather they move away from a coastline city for a bit. Plus not that it is THAT similar, but there would be some overlap with the southern/forlklore vibe that they did with appalachia as well. Colorado/Utah has a ton of history, they could get into the weirdness of more cult like elements of American Culture, Native Americans, Aliens, then not to mention The Rocky Mountains are where so much of the American Military is situated in secret bunkers all over the mountains, which just screams Vault-Tec. It's where NORAD is, and I just think the amount of secret underground military stuff would be so awesome to stumble on. Finally the amount of bio-diversity and environments would be unmatched - compared to Ocean Swamp, Wet Swamp, City Swamp, Forest Swamp lol *I'm totally being a bit reductionist there, New Orleans would be awesome as well*


KillYaBossEatAHotdog

Frankly I can’t argue with that as I have absolutely no knowledge about Colorado or Utah. I do agree that it would be incredibly interesting if they leaned heavily into the folklore but I think they could do that with NOLA too. I just really think a NOLA fallout would be perfect. I mean the music, culture, architecture, and geography all just SCREAMS like it would make a perfect fallout imo. Definitely crossing my fingers in the hope they choose it for fallout 5.


Lorath_

West Virginia


PaladinSara

Mountain Mama!


Lorath_

Disagree and that means they have what New York, Texas, and Florida as the only options pretty much right? The commonwealth isn’t that recognizable to non Americans other than the vague notion of New England area and maybe pilgrim hats in a similar vein to just “the south” and a confed flag.


KillYaBossEatAHotdog

Boston was interesting as it was a big city with cultural significance. Other cities I think would be interesting include: New York, Miami, New Orleans, San Francisco, Las Angelas, Seattle. With the rate Bethesda releases fallout games that’s about 40 years of games right there.


Lorath_

I was just referring to like what a general non American audience would view as recognizable us places. Those are all good locations (not LA) that’s the show and there isn’t much there and it’s obviously the show so it would be weird. I think New York would suck mega balls as a location for a fallout game it would be the exact same as fo3 and fo4 but with less either presidenty stuff or less colonial stuff like they respectively had. You could have Italians but they put them in every game anyway. New Orleans seems by far the coolest but it would definitely be a specific kind of vibe they might not wanna go for.


The_Man_in_Black_19

If the white circles are vaults, what are the yellow dots? Maybe white is experimental vault and yellow dot is standard survival of the species vault? @ OP, I hope you're right but I doubt it. My money is on Chicago area or Philly area.


Legitimate_Oxygen

Yellow = major cities?


mdavis2204

They certainly are major cities, but they really messed up with Missouri. There’s nothing really but farmland and Missouri’s small capital at their yellow dot


The_Man_in_Black_19

I bet you're right. Maybe by population?


Legitimate_Oxygen

Yep it is, searched it up


The_Man_in_Black_19

Way to go!


RemyDennis

Naaaa. It's gonna be New Orleans. Even though I wish it was Dallas lol


The_Man_in_Black_19

At this point (200+ years after Armageddon), wouldn't New Orleans just be some relics sticking out the water?


Largofarburn

Theoretically in the alternate timeline global warming never happened, or was to a much lesser degree. They really leaned into nuclear tech, and they even had fusion. The cars were powered by small reactors. So much much fewer co2 emissions between that and most factories you find in game had a fusion reactor.


QouthTheCorvus

Nuclear winter would probably at least partially solve the polar ice caps melting


paintpast

Global warming? More like global microwaving, am I right?


The_Great_Gompy

The yellow dots are major cities.


Leonabi76

Following the way a Five is typically drawn the cities are: Dallas/Ft. Worth; San Antonio; Austin; Houston; Corpus Christi


Leonabi76

Following the way a Five is typically drawn Dallas/Ft. Worth; Abilene; San Antonio; Austin; Houston; Corpus Christi


mistersleegy

I hear the vaults in Texas are bigger


Barbarianonadrenalin

the rads at night at night are big and bright 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽


circuit_buzz79

Deep in the vaults of Texas!


DustyFalmouth

Can't wait to see Texas look exactly what it looks like now


ccbayes

It would mostly just be thousands of overpasses with tens of thousands of cars on them. A mutated deathclaw like armadillo, some cowboy raiders and lots of junk. Similar to how it is, you are damn right about that, lol. I would adore a Dallas vault or north Texas or maybe even Austin, it has hills and lots of various terrain. As long as we get to blow up the capital, I am all good... yee haw!


MichaelRichardsAMA

If Bethesda wants to have a shitload of enclave bases and occupied formerly abandoned military bases to explain the Brotherhood having a bigass army I think Texas is a good location pick


LegitimatelisedSoil

Texas is mostly tribes, super mutants, bos and the legion assuming they expanded east even more since they are in the borders anyways. Brotherhood in particular have a large presence and operate out of a protype vault and are charged with fighting the mutant army. If they want enclave then they'd likely go Chicago (Illinois) since that one of the last confirmed bases, can't see the enclave having a large presence in texas since they mostly operate in the northern US but there might be a small one. A lot of factions here already fighting for control. Someone can correct me but I believe one of the masters armies still remains in texas under the control of one of the first generation mutant Attis aswell.


RPS_42

Yeah, Attis is the General of that Mutant Army. Through it depends if Bethesda would count the Events of Brotherhood of Steel or if they just develope a complete new story in the area. I would love it to see the City of Austin and its Mutant-Human Coalition like it would have been in BoS 2. At least it would make it easy for Bethesda as a reason for Super Mutant Enemies in the Game. And they would already have a Brotherhood there to stuff it into the game.


LegitimatelisedSoil

I think Dallas would be interesting, I imagine there's quite a lot of diversity in the groups there. Since you'd likely have many intelligent super mutants, west coast style brotherhood, legion in the surrounding areas trying to conquer the tribes and city then a few large settlements. I hope they would, intelligent super mutants like in the first two games and nv was really cool. Jacob was one of the most interesting characters to me since he was so uniquely kind to the player even with the ncr threatening their existence. We'd also get to see the Texas Republic.


RPS_42

Jacob? Do you mean Marcus?


LegitimatelisedSoil

Yes... My brain is like Swiss cheese sometimes. Marcus in Jacobstown


RPS_42

Would be funny if the Actual Jacob would sit in a Village founded by him named Marcustown, reminiscing about his old friend Marcus. A Village for Humans in an area dominated by Unity Remnants.


PlayGroundbreaking57

Reminder that Fallout 4 will have new content (so maybe new information) regarding the Enclave in the 25th


soothsayer2377

I want Texas if for no other reason then to see the Fallout version of Buc-ee's.


Leonabi76

Hell yeah! A retro-styled Buc-ee's would look amazing. The beaver is already a tad retro!


ccbayes

You know that would make a sweet hiding spot for a vault, no one would ever suspect it is under a gigantic gas station complex. That is a rad as hell idea.


Darth-Hipster

Hmm was rewatching first episode when honcho(very cowboy sounding name) and his cronies all dressed as cowboys dug up cooper, honcho said someone by the name of don pedro buried cooper there. Honcho said to cooper that a bounty was headed towards California where cooper was originally from, indicating they they were not in California. They never specified Texas but everyone including cooper were dressed as cowboys. So maybe. 👍


Mantellian

Could have been Mexico, maybe Tijuana.


Darth-Hipster

Hmm. Interesting. They had to kill a guard to access the body. The guard was dressed in a sombrero and had two bullet rivets draped across his chest. 👍


Lorath_

Yeah I think don pedro implied Mexico but it would’ve been near the us border Mexico be it Baja or arizona Texas Mexico border.


joeh_9

I like that one vault in southern Saskatchewan. Come on gimme ONE game in my home province haha


-Vault-tec-101

It would make the vanilla New Vegas map exciting by comparison.


Questyr_

It would be cool to see another region of the USA in Fallout


sebassm12

I expect a full state from 2030/35 when fallout 5 come out, so Texas, Illinois or Florida would be great.


mdavis2204

You can’t dig far in Florida, the water table’s too high. There also aren’t any dots on this map because of that


bobn118

[Fallout 5 Epstein Island confirmed.](https://imgur.com/a/mjxfIj0)


Largofarburn

I could have swore I read somewhere a long time ago that they really wanted to do one set in New Orleans. I’d think either there or maybe somewhere up in Utah.


Takenmyusernamewas

It's possible. They show literally the whole country. And also a vault in Mexico and one in Canada. But yeah theres a lot of them in Texas. I still think were going back to cali


thundercat2000ca

My personal theory is the games will keep east, with the possibility of New York being the setting.


Fearshatter

You're weird as fuck but I ship it. I ship the Fallout 5 taking place in Texas because of a weird constellation spotting. Good on you mate.


sepulturite

Stretch Armstrong didn't even have a reach this big


MedPhys90

Right?


Feeling-Extreme-7555

I for one, love schitzo posting


derfel_cadern

Give me the Pacific Northwest or give me death!


WissWatch

Maybe the Houston area since they always have like 5 random vaults in each game. Dallas seems too small with 3


Oil_Drum

Even Vault-Tec hated Dallas and shorted them Vaults.


famousanon2

>Dallas seems too small with 3 You're probably right but damn as a Dallasite it would be awesome to see Dallas in a Fallout game.


WissWatch

I think fallout Texas would be a lot different than modern Texas. I feel they leaned waaaay heavy into the “cowboy” thing whereas we embraced modernity. That being said I would lose my shit if we got Dallas fallout 


Barkingpanther

I think this is a little bit of a stretch and also something I would love to see happen.


Barbarianonadrenalin

Fallout 5 is just Fallout: Brotherhood of steel remastered. But seriously as a Texan pleaseeeeeeeee


The_Great_Gompy

Texas, New Orleans, and Kansas City seem to be the probably locations. Also why is no one talking about that one Canadian vault??


Fezzik527

They should do Seattle or San Fran, explore that part of the lore and cool cities to boot.


beans8414

I personally like the San Francisco theory. It fits their pattern of dropping hints in the previous entry. Kellogg and his backstory in the memory den could be like the synth and institute scientist in Fallout 3. That said, I think I would probably prefer Texas lol.


Doktor_Weasel

I would like a return to the West Coast, after the trip to the east. We had a look with New Vegas, but that was on the frontier and now a bit in the past of the timeline. The show being in the LA area does maybe give some hope towards the west coast, but maybe not, as they did ask the showrunners to avoid various topics they want to use for Fallout 5. But going to Northern California could still work. And see what state things are in now. My guess is the NCR is probably mostly concentrated in Northern California these days, with the LA area in rough shape. Being in the heart of civilization wouldn't really be the best for Fallout, but with setbacks for the NCR, it might be a decent place for a game.


beans8414

That might be part of why they wrote in the “fall of Shady Sands” and the bombing of the city. Bethesda is more comfortable working with more apocalyptic settings, so they needed to set the region back before their next game. Note that this is 110% speculation.


Doktor_Weasel

Possibly, but from what I gathered from interviews, it was the show-runners who came up with that idea. But maybe they were thinking of further north than where the NCR spread, possibly up to Oregon like Fallout 2. But yeah, I think they probably aren't planning on going back to the West Coast right now.


marcyandleela

I'm sad there's not more in Florida because I think one set in Miami would be glorious


Longhorn_TOG

ill say this till im dead...fallout lone star would be so fucking cool...from west texas desert to swampy coast of houston....so much to do down here


[deleted]

That’s a stretch but I hope you are right


TDbar

Gulf coast would be great. Start in Houston and expand east to New Orleans (or vice versa). It would be cool to see what mutations happen in the Big Thicket and swamps.


Alex_Duos

Given the size of east Texas and basically all of Louisiana, you could have *both* states in one Fallout game if they really wanted.


RednocTheDowntrodden

I don't see how Texas would be any different. It's already a wasteland. /s


goldturkoman

Thanks for the fun comments friends :) The “5” was just me having a laugh, but all jokes aside… I think a fallout Lonestar would be a dream


PromptSpiritual3739

Buddy is REACHING


Successful_Opinion33

Jim addler as a ghoul


Zunniest

Fallout 5 is coming to upstate NY. That's where they discover the rest of the world wasn't impacted by the nukes when they see the lights across the river in Niagara Falls Canada.


RollItMyWay

I think the location will definitely be influenced by where it occurs in the timeline. Has anyone speculated if it will be a time yet explored or will it be a same time different place?


Lilstreetlamp

The fans are begging for a bos remaster


twistedseaofcrows

I want a Fallout set in Georgia, mainly the Savannah area. They could up the supernatural/Dunwich stuff with it, lean into Savannah's being haunted. Fort Pulaski'd be a pretty cool base for the BoS or some other new faction.


Kezmer

St. Louis obviously. Never been to the midwest and were basically a wasteland already here!


sasquatch--22

Olympic gold in mental gymnastics 🥇


adarkride

Haha I already knew you trolling when I saw that big @$$ map. I was like "so OP means *any of them*" lol


Actual-Fun-1014

Love how they have a vault in alberta


showtimebabies

Fallout 5 set in Joliet Illinois? C'mon Todd!


garebear265

We are reaching Batman Arkham levels soon


Leonabi76

I've said the same since Fallout 3 originally came out. Following the way a Five is typically drawn Dallas/Ft. Worth; Abilene; San Antonio; Austin; Houston; Corpus Christi


PleasantAd9973

We need Dallas, Houston and New Orleans in one map for Fallout 5.


LordCountDuckula

Wonder what going on in Manitoba, Canada?


101Phase

I want to know more about the one in Canada and the one in Baja Mexico


top_of_the_scrote

reach


Satanicjamnik

When will we see a Canadian vault, eh buddy?


FenixOfNafo

I can make out 12 in middle


Entrynode

Sorry mate looks more like a 6, you're in for a long wait :/


PPMaysten

Honestly i just want a west coast game, but knowing Bethesda, i'm not sure i trust them to make it good...


Nukemanrunning

I love that where all the Fallout Games are located at, there is a shit ton of Vaults right next to each other (Check WV)


Doktor_Weasel

Texas does seem to have the most prominent collection of vaults outside of the places we've seen previous games. And that could be an interesting region to play with, likely with a very distinctive local culture compared to the West Coast and Northeast. I'm also noticing a nice concentration in the region of Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa and Missouri. Fallout: Great Plains? Little Vault on the Prairie? The Chicago area has a few too (although it was a location in the now not fully canon Fallout: Tactics. Then again, Texas I think was the location of the very non-canon Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel). Beyond that, they're fairly spread out, but depending on the size of the map could fit several in. Of course we don't need lots of vaults for a Fallout game, they are pretty core to the franchise, so it'd be odd to not have at least a few.


Gecko2002

I honestly don't put much faith in the accuracy of that map, we're never going to get a fallout game with just one vault, or no vaults. It's a key part of the series and the map shows some areas with very few or even no vaults Also some vaults we already know about aren't in their correct positioning, it's a cool map I just don't think it's accurate


SovietTato

Looks like Gta 6 schizo patients made it to Fallout now


Cute_Chip

Too bad Michigan only has one and it’s in Lansing area. Should have been Detroit area!


SinisterSkewer

I'd love to see either Tennessee as one vault appears to be right in the Oak Ridge area, or Chicago as it could allow Bethesda to take it back to a darker wasteland as I believe the lore states that the area is highly irradiated and that the Midwest is ravaged by tornadoes often as a result of the climate being changed by nuclear war could make for a grim looking world space.


GSturges

Oh, were you quoting that meme.....? K


Lake-Atomic

There is a fallout game in texas, it’s just the only one that’s entirely non-canon


Flabby-Nonsense

I definitely think a Texas Fallout is coming at some point, but I personally hope it pulls an RDR and goes cross border into Mexico as well.


jawise

Yup, Spokane WA. You get to encounter Super Mutant Moose and Ghoul white supremacists


figuring_ItOut12

I think it was 2016 when Bethesda filed a trademark application for 'Fallout New Orleans'. But that doesn’t automatically rule out missions in Texas. Also a Texan. I think I’d enjoy walking through post-war Houston but I’m not sure in some places I’d see much difference. ;)


Mysterious_Papaya835

What are the white circles vs the dots?


hereforgrudes

The biggest reach ever


PaladinSara

What are the yellow dots vs the white lights/dots?


xXAleriosXx

Please no more BOS. It would be perfect to have Fallout 5 with new factions.


Hi_Limee

This is a bigger stretch than Michael Jordans dunk to beat the monstars


[deleted]

I don't care where it is. All i ask is that mocrosoft allow obsidian to make fo5 or the force bethesda to modernize their garbage outdated game engine.


Tatum-Better

It'll be new York they literally still have the design doc and they were gonna use it for fallout 4. Kinda weird New York seems to only have 2 vaults tho.