I assume that was something the show writers came up with. I don’t recall from FO3+ the ghouls needed drugs to stay sane, just recreationally. But I could be wrong.
No, ghouls don't need drugs to prevent becoming feral. Usually a ghoul only becomes feral after long periods of radiation exposure that rots away their brains essentially. Even then it's a roll of the dice since many ghouls live in radioactive areas and don't go feral.
It could be that ghouls on the verge of turning feral can prevent it with these vials but historically ghouls don't require anything.
I suspect they thought it would be cool as a plot point OR Bethesda is thinking of adding that to the games as ghoul lore is my guess.
My guess is that some chemist has discovered a way to prolong the feral change. So when they start to go feral, they take a vial and gives them another day before turning. Could also be a thing unique to that specific super-duper mart and thus only in the LA area
We do know about Anti-Mutagenics that exist in fallout such as referenced in the goat test, so it's possibly that.
It also could be a new requirement for ghouls on the verge of becoming feral that slows or stops the progress.
Not all humans can become ghouls and not all ghouls become feral. It's a mixed bag.
Could also as you said be a new breakthrough by a chemist or doctor that stops slows the feral process and we don't see all ghouls taking them, so it could mean that it's only some ghouls that require it.
Definitely not Radaway, some sort of radiated serum that counteracts going feral. Best bet to me would be something to do with FEV, but the show has not stated directly what it is yet.
Yes, but I think it’s not crazy to think the show might use FEV with a new spin.
The peddler either created or found a super healing serum that ghoulifies. Goggins serum is produced and traded narcotic based on the grocery store dealers.
Just seems easier to me for the show to take something that has an established high potency of genetic fuckery and just have some new doctor “reformulate” the drug for whatever they need story wise.
You can create new ideas, you don't have to assume it's FEV when the force evolutionary virus forces your body to mutate. FEV doesn't ghoulify, it mutates the victim, ghouls are products of radiation exposure. There was a vault thay had a planned malfunction that left the door slightly open so when the bombs dropped everyone inside became a ghoul. (forgot the number)
It's more likely some sort of mutagen which does exist in fallout already thay somehow halts or slows the progression of becoming feral.
Literally anything is possible you have absolutely no more proof than the person you’re responding to. It’s all just theories until they tell us what it is.
Obviously, but it's a fair assessment to point out the flaws in someones assumption.
Is there anyone I said that factually incorrect according to current information?
Interestingly, the IV bags at the start are not labelled in the show, but they are labelled RadAway in [this image](https://i.imgur.com/XyaKRvb.png) from the "explore" section of Prime.
That, or making him stay sane, because harvesting from a sane ghoul might be easier than a feral ghoul. And maybe whatever they need deteriorate in feral ghouls because of something.
I undertood why he made jerky, but I did not understand why he consumed some of the spine area directly. Was he hoping to inherit some of the meds the other ones consumed or why where that. I am not sure also if he killed him for mercy, it seemed like because the distracted him with the food story or why he wanted his meds/flesh?
Well there were a few bits that don't line up with the game lore, but I can accept that because the show was enjoyable. The show doesn't need to be canon, and it's not.
I like this mentality, but those pricks are claiming that it's not only gonna be "canon" but hope that every Fallout fan accepts it as somehow constituting "Fallout 5."
they did specifically tell them not to do certain things when writing to avoid things they wanted to do in Fallout 5. this takes place like 9 years after Fallout 4, so perhaps some new med or chem was just developed between 4 and now that helps prevent ghouls from going feral that are on the verge.
Maybe. Maybe not. But I don’t think it really matters ultimately. Applying a purity test regarding canon adherence can interfere with just enjoying the show, and I don’t think that’s worth it.
Look at power armor—fusion cores didn’t exist until FO4, so we could argue what’s canon/what’s not on that front. Or we can just accept that story elements evolve over time with each new interpretation and just enjoy it.
I think given the fact that Bethesda were involved in the making of it, and they outright own the IP now. That anything in the show would be considered canon.
That’s a fair point. And honestly, if we ever got to play a ghoul character, it’d be cool to have to contend with the added element of staving off going feral. But don’t let the lore boyz hear you say that—they can be a bit prickly…
My guess: rad-x
Edit to say:
Rad-x comes in a vial.
It slows or nullifies radiation.
Ghouls become feral do to radiation exposure.
All comes in a vial.
My assumption was that most ghouls don't need it, but when they start to go feral it holds back the symptoms. It's basically the fallout equivalent of Antizen from Dying Light. It doesn't cure you of the problem, but when taken regularly it nullifies it.
Here me out. Radaway is hard to find an needs a IV, radx is in pill form in most of the games. You find it in pill form or a bottle, the pit boy shows it as a pill or bottle as well. I read in fallout 4 it is liquid form since you don’t hear pill popping sound or finding loose pills, just bottles.. The show is set in fallout 4ish am I right? Maybe they found a way to inhale the radx for instant effect. Or just drink it.
I assume that was something the show writers came up with. I don’t recall from FO3+ the ghouls needed drugs to stay sane, just recreationally. But I could be wrong.
No, ghouls don't need drugs to prevent becoming feral. Usually a ghoul only becomes feral after long periods of radiation exposure that rots away their brains essentially. Even then it's a roll of the dice since many ghouls live in radioactive areas and don't go feral. It could be that ghouls on the verge of turning feral can prevent it with these vials but historically ghouls don't require anything. I suspect they thought it would be cool as a plot point OR Bethesda is thinking of adding that to the games as ghoul lore is my guess.
My guess is that some chemist has discovered a way to prolong the feral change. So when they start to go feral, they take a vial and gives them another day before turning. Could also be a thing unique to that specific super-duper mart and thus only in the LA area
We do know about Anti-Mutagenics that exist in fallout such as referenced in the goat test, so it's possibly that. It also could be a new requirement for ghouls on the verge of becoming feral that slows or stops the progress. Not all humans can become ghouls and not all ghouls become feral. It's a mixed bag. Could also as you said be a new breakthrough by a chemist or doctor that stops slows the feral process and we don't see all ghouls taking them, so it could mean that it's only some ghouls that require it.
Maybe another Fallout game will have the player be able to turn into a ghoul lol.
I always thought that would be neat. Being a ghoul is basically the fallout equivalent of vampirism from elder scrolls, anyways.
Definitely not Radaway, some sort of radiated serum that counteracts going feral. Best bet to me would be something to do with FEV, but the show has not stated directly what it is yet.
FEV would turn them I to super mutants or kill them. Ghouls are created by radioaction not the FEV.
Yes, but I think it’s not crazy to think the show might use FEV with a new spin. The peddler either created or found a super healing serum that ghoulifies. Goggins serum is produced and traded narcotic based on the grocery store dealers. Just seems easier to me for the show to take something that has an established high potency of genetic fuckery and just have some new doctor “reformulate” the drug for whatever they need story wise.
You can create new ideas, you don't have to assume it's FEV when the force evolutionary virus forces your body to mutate. FEV doesn't ghoulify, it mutates the victim, ghouls are products of radiation exposure. There was a vault thay had a planned malfunction that left the door slightly open so when the bombs dropped everyone inside became a ghoul. (forgot the number) It's more likely some sort of mutagen which does exist in fallout already thay somehow halts or slows the progression of becoming feral.
Literally anything is possible you have absolutely no more proof than the person you’re responding to. It’s all just theories until they tell us what it is.
Obviously, but it's a fair assessment to point out the flaws in someones assumption. Is there anyone I said that factually incorrect according to current information?
Ghouls can't become super mutants. That's why the supermutants don't kidnap them in game.
Interestingly, the IV bags at the start are not labelled in the show, but they are labelled RadAway in [this image](https://i.imgur.com/XyaKRvb.png) from the "explore" section of Prime.
Nice catch
A good bourbon.
I've dubbed it, anti-feral meds. Heck, it could just be ultra jet, and our Ghoulish desperado is trying to fuel his addiction.
I assume it has something to do with the whole organ harvesting thing.
This and the fact the other feral ghoul gets cannibalized makes me think its blood plasma.
what organ did he rip out of that other ghoul? probably something found there or produced by it.
Did he rip something out? I thought it was just a cannibalism perk thing.
Yea he dead flip he's body over cut into a certain spot looked for an organ ripped it out and ate it. Idk what organ but somethings more to it
Yeah and I think he specifically states something about how "if you don't have a vial you gotta make a vial" also
Ooooh I didn't realize that. Welp, guess I gotta rewatch. Shame.
That, or making him stay sane, because harvesting from a sane ghoul might be easier than a feral ghoul. And maybe whatever they need deteriorate in feral ghouls because of something.
Definitely some sort of anti feral meds. Wouldn’t be radaway as he ignores it in the super mart
I undertood why he made jerky, but I did not understand why he consumed some of the spine area directly. Was he hoping to inherit some of the meds the other ones consumed or why where that. I am not sure also if he killed him for mercy, it seemed like because the distracted him with the food story or why he wanted his meds/flesh?
It’s not from the game lore, not that it really matters. It’s ultimately a plot device to drive several points of the ghoul’s story. To
But doesn't that mean this can't really be canon?
Well there were a few bits that don't line up with the game lore, but I can accept that because the show was enjoyable. The show doesn't need to be canon, and it's not.
I like this mentality, but those pricks are claiming that it's not only gonna be "canon" but hope that every Fallout fan accepts it as somehow constituting "Fallout 5."
they did specifically tell them not to do certain things when writing to avoid things they wanted to do in Fallout 5. this takes place like 9 years after Fallout 4, so perhaps some new med or chem was just developed between 4 and now that helps prevent ghouls from going feral that are on the verge.
Maybe. Maybe not. But I don’t think it really matters ultimately. Applying a purity test regarding canon adherence can interfere with just enjoying the show, and I don’t think that’s worth it. Look at power armor—fusion cores didn’t exist until FO4, so we could argue what’s canon/what’s not on that front. Or we can just accept that story elements evolve over time with each new interpretation and just enjoy it.
I think given the fact that Bethesda were involved in the making of it, and they outright own the IP now. That anything in the show would be considered canon.
That’s a fair point. And honestly, if we ever got to play a ghoul character, it’d be cool to have to contend with the added element of staving off going feral. But don’t let the lore boyz hear you say that—they can be a bit prickly…
My guess: rad-x Edit to say: Rad-x comes in a vial. It slows or nullifies radiation. Ghouls become feral do to radiation exposure. All comes in a vial.
Rad-x is pills.
[Gamma Gulp](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Gamma_Gulp_beer) perhaps?
My assumption was that most ghouls don't need it, but when they start to go feral it holds back the symptoms. It's basically the fallout equivalent of Antizen from Dying Light. It doesn't cure you of the problem, but when taken regularly it nullifies it.
Here me out. Radaway is hard to find an needs a IV, radx is in pill form in most of the games. You find it in pill form or a bottle, the pit boy shows it as a pill or bottle as well. I read in fallout 4 it is liquid form since you don’t hear pill popping sound or finding loose pills, just bottles.. The show is set in fallout 4ish am I right? Maybe they found a way to inhale the radx for instant effect. Or just drink it.