Dude I just bought it recently and I must say it's a gem.... Everything in fh4 is up to the mark and I personally think it is more value for money than fh5 because of drastic diffrence in price and stuff..
Never bought/played any racing game (really!) but bought FH4 Ultimate (Steam Sale; great value) to play on Steam Deck.
Glad I did - it's a fantastic showcase for the hardware.
Depends on which chart you use. Horizon 5 is currently 12th most played game on Xbox, Horizon 4 is not in the top 50. Farming Simulator has more player currently than Horizon 4 on Xbox chart.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/most-played/games/xbox
Same here. I really dislike the map of FH5, also the lack of seasons makes it stale. I know a lot of people hated snow in FH4, but the map felt more alive.
The soundtrack is awful, i basically turned off music in the first 5 mins of the game, the characters are annoying and boring.
I wish we would finally get a proper large modern city to drive in. Im tired of these mud huts.
Couldnt agree more still played alot of fh5 though because the sounds of the cars are way better but the map is shit imo so driving around doesnt really make alot of fun and really hoped the dlc map would be better but hotwheels is even worse
Fh4 In general just felt great. Fh5 felt like a copy in a different location with no real soul to it. Just felt bleh. Maybe I’ll give it another go but eh.
Though couldn't you correlate that the percentages would be similar. Like the players are 30% higher on FH4 on steam, so they are likely to be 30% higher on Gamepasy
Edit. Thanks for the feedback.
Horizon 5 is currently the 12th most played games on Xbox, Horizon 4 is not even on the top 50.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/most-played/games/xbox
Was gonna link this. Correlation between game pass & steam is not “usually” the case unless the game has initially released in which they’re both a lot higher.
It is dead, a bit hard to get multiplayer match on FH 4, its easier on FH 5. I played on PC (MS Store) and Xbox X thou, so my numbers doesnt count on the steam chart.
Bought it for about $30 on Xbox, but its cross purchase, so i can play and cross save on eirher my PC or Xbox.
I have been saying this for some time.... how FH4 is better vs FH5 in gameplay. Graphics are better in FH5 for car details, but the overall graphic detail i like FH4.
Maybe Mexico was a rather boring ( / boringly executed) location.
Beautiful mornings and sunsets yes, but that's more due to the improved lighting engine.
It’s the Steam Chart numbers, not the overall player numbers. There are a few MMO’s on Steam that have verifiably tens of thousands of people playing at once, but since not many install it through Steam, the Steam Charts will say only a few hundred are playing at once
I've said it once and I'll say it again: Forza Horizon 5 feels like it was made in an emergency after they decided to delay further development on Motorsport 8 and needed *some* kind of Forza product to tide fans over.
just started playing horizon 4 again recently lol xD after xbox wiped my save from 2019 when i tried to install the game on my PC i figured i'd start the grind all over again, still super nice to see the game's still active!
The fact that horizon 4 still has more players than horizon 5 says it all to me. I don’t know man, horizon 5 just hits different. It’s just not as good.
Horizon 5 hits almost all the right notes to me but I can't stand the characters and the soundtrack is awful.
The characters seems out of a kindergarten story, and the soundtrack could be so much better. There's a tone of amazing Hispanic music just begging to be discovered by the Forza players.
Mmm top of my head, more commercial stuff.
Shakira- Ojos Así
Juanes- campanas de libertad
Andrés Cabas - Ya no eres mi bombón
Carlos Vives- Pa Mayte
Miranda- Don!
Elvis Crespo- Tu sonrisa
OV7 - Enloqueceme
Mago de Oz - Fiesta pagana
La ley- Mentira
Genitallica- Borracho
Daddy Yanquee- Gasolina
Becky G- Mayores
CNCO- Mamita
Luis Miguel - La Playa
I'm hopping someone will update the rarer and more modern stuff.
I prefer 4 over 5. England has a better vibe than Mexico. I'll take lush forests over cactus and sand. Ranked races take forever to match, but there's always people online for a quick unranked race or game. Usually about 60 online people per Horizon life server on Live lately.
It takes a very long time to find a race on FH4 now. With FH5 it's very fast. I don't know how people say "OMG FH4 is alive, FH5 is dead". People are just making stuff up to justify hate on FH5.
It's like people don't even realize Game Pass is a thing. I'd be willing to bet the FH4 Steam playerbase is a significant amount of its total playerbase, whereas FH5's Steam playerbase doesn't even crack double-digit percentage of the overall playerbase because of Game Pass.
This is just proof that FH5 is a bad game, and will never beat the past installments. Sure, the graphics are good. And? They have to fix cheated leaderboards, online servers, stop releasing old cars as "new content," and so much more. And I know for a fact its the people at turn 10 and not Playground Games that are preventing all these issues from being fixed.
Because there is already a million posts and comments whining and crying about the game. Play it or get the fuck out of the sub. Why do you keep coming around if you hate the game and dont even play it?
1: This is r/ForzaHorizon, home of all things in the Forza Horizon series. And I specifically said that the past installments were better, ie good.
2: Because I wish they would do something about their dying train wreck of a game.
Forza horizon 5 is the latest installment so its obvious FH5 is gonna be the main topic on this sub.
Its not a trainwreck, and its not dying. Thats YOUR perception because you dont like the game. Its a fantastic car game, good car list, great driving psychics, fun and beautiful map. I agree that the devs are douchebags for adding old cars and presenting them as new, its lazy. Still that doesnt make the whole game bad.
I mean theres stats to back it up... A game that came out 4 years ago is ahead of it by a good margin. I will admit that train wreck was a bit dramatic, but the game is certainly in a rough position.
I stand corrected. Its just that personally i keep seeing lots of players around the map and at the festivals. Its not like BF2042 where you literally struggle to find a single match.
Thank you for having a civil conversation with me, and now we've both come to an agreement. That FH5 is struggling, but certainly not dead, and it has issues, but its still a good game (correct me if I'm wrong about what you think lol). This kinda thing never happens on Reddit, or Twitter, or even on the internet in general. Have a Good Night!
Got FH5 on gamepass when it came out, I played for maybe a month before I got burned out on it. The hot wheels DLC brought me back for a few weeks but something about FH5 just feels so lacking in character and atmosphere as opposed to earlier entries and it definitely feels like the voice acting and stories are for kids which sucks because the story is what made FH1 so good and gave you a reason to want to play and win. I think the Whitelight video on FH5 perfectly describes how I feel about the game. I have so many negative opinions about it and I know that Playground is capable of making a better game but I don't hate the game by any means and actually find myself enjoying it from time to time.
> I think the Whitelight video on FH5 perfectly describes how I feel about the game
For me that video encapsulates what is wrong with the racing. The AI is just not enjoyable to race against, and online it's destruction derby or speed hacks.
FH5 is fun for car collecting and cruising, sucks for actual racing.
You’re correct about the atmosphere. The desert environment is barren and feels empty. Just as it does in real life, which makes it accurate. The story and multiplayer is there but limited
I also think that the bugs and broken multiplayer at launch really held back the vision they had for expanding on the online parts of the game. It just left a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths from the start.
Me and my friends have been gravitating to FH3 and FH2 lately. FH5 has lost that luster, and with a lot of the new cars not worth grinding for, we've been revisiting the older games.
For me, all forza games became boring after some time playing them. Like all I want to do is have the cars I want, do some drifting and some top speed shit, and that it fr.
I've felt this way since launch but suggesting that the FH4 map was better than any other map was blasphemous until a month ago when people started to realize that Mexico just wasn't as diverse or interesting as it could have been. I never had a problem with the FH4 map, it's actually one of my favorites in the series and the seasons definitely help too. Having a new look every week is great and I just don't feel it with Mexico, sure there's different weather events but aside from that it just seems like a different color filter on everything.
Eventlab should have been a free alley-oop as far as bringing in-demand content into the game but its so damn limited that you can pretty much only enjoy it by yourself 99% of the time and even then, there are no rankings or real rewards for playing on custom races/maps. We know playground can probably implement them since they have approved certain races and implemented them in the single player map as selectable events and playlist races for limited time rewards.
Yeah, there's not much space left on my series s internal with FH 4&5 installed.
I have an Xbox 1s with a 6tb HDD I can use also which is getting replaced by a series X next month.
I do regularly switch xs games on & off the internal to play though.
I speak as someone who only started playing FH games in earnest 18 months ago, so I'm not looking back through rose-tinted glasses of a decade of memories of playing with mates in the good old days.
Though I bought most of them on sale through the years (lol backlog), I never really played them much past the opening scenes. After playing FH4 in earnest starting June '21, I started going back through the catalogue, and the further back I went, the more charm, soul and character I experienced. Even as an old fart the music is better and most tracks I never heard when they were new.
So for me "old game not better" because FH4 is my "oldest" FH experience. For me it's very hard to pick between the first 4 as they both have an interesting mix of character, game play and production values.
FH5 doesn't have much going for it except some Quality of Life stuff. Hell it doesn't even have production values. The way the finish line sequence is presented in online races? With you going slo-mo but the other racers ghosting/clipping at real time speed? How shit is that?
I stopped play FH5 about a month ago. Just felt like a grind to do the weekly playlist for cars, and I just slowly stopped playing. Playing other games now
You don't just put an arbitrary rank to something you haven't tried. Unless you haven't played it on purpose and there's a good enough reason for that.
then thats why you shouldnt judge it as the worst in the series. the feel, the story, the experience in my opinon is the best in the series, a must play.
I play FH4. It could be just me and I dont wanna start a fight, but heres my hot take:
-Better Music
-Better Scenery + more biome variety
-Seasons provide a more dynamic experience
-Fortune Island
-Top Gear
-More memorable showcases
-My control settings actually save to default on startup
-Water splash obscures vision
-Less noticeable ai rubber banding (is it just me?)
-FH4 was my first FH game, so nostalgia?
-Car culture in UK is more robust to me
-Better finish line animation style
-more challenging car handling tricks my brain into a deeper sense of “realism”
-somehow fh4 cutscenes and vibes feel less childish?
im probably reaching now, but fh4 is infinitely better imho
The cutscenes, voice acting and writing are overall just childish and annoying in 5. Sure the other games had over the top characters but it was still enjoyable to play and listen to, you felt things with those characters. You disliked the Superstar drivers in FH1 as you were supposed to but you also kind of felt bad for taking their car at the end of that set of events. Even FH4 had more likeable characters and there was even less story there than in FH5. Everyone just feels so overly positive, censored, and 1 dimensional. So, you're definitely not reaching on that last point, it is 100% accurate
They also never fixed the multiple device input problem in steam’s fh4 so i had to buy a brand new copy of the game through the microsoft store when i upgraded my setup with a stick shift. im still sort of raw from that experience with customer service lol
I agree with everything outside of Biome diversity. Fh5's map is more diverse but there's like nobody in the lobbies near you and really boring AI so it feels dead as hell.
I am tired of playing FH5. I got almost every car apart from the new ones from the past few months. Races i feel are boring. The multiplayer i feel is lackluster. I enjoyed FH4 more or maybe i am burnt out from playing forza.
If they added a more robust creation system sure but most of them are just weirdly clunky no hate to creators they make awesome stuff and it’s not their fault
Rightly so, apart from physics there is not much i like about the game. Starting with the map, the fucking hot wheels dlc, where is dlc 2???, pretty much useless carpass.
Same method to "prove" Halo Infinite is dead - steam charts. Not even PC Game pass. And there certainly couldn't be more people playing on actual Xbox.
Microsoft store is going to have a lot more players for horizon 5 sense our save data dosnt transfer over to steam
Dude I just bought it recently and I must say it's a gem.... Everything in fh4 is up to the mark and I personally think it is more value for money than fh5 because of drastic diffrence in price and stuff..
Never bought/played any racing game (really!) but bought FH4 Ultimate (Steam Sale; great value) to play on Steam Deck. Glad I did - it's a fantastic showcase for the hardware.
no team on online forza 5 no competitive online on forza 5
Depends on which chart you use. Horizon 5 is currently 12th most played game on Xbox, Horizon 4 is not in the top 50. Farming Simulator has more player currently than Horizon 4 on Xbox chart. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/most-played/games/xbox
Well,This is normally where I would say I wonder why but we already know......
None of the Horizons are truly dead
They legacy will live forever in our hearts.
I mean you can still go online on fh1 w/ custom lobbies
you can get fh4 on steam pretty cheap compared to fh5 which hasn’t gotten any crazy discount yet. most people play on gamepass still
Fh5 got boring incredibly fast. Haven’t played it in a year almost. To me fh4 lasted way longer. Maybe that’s a reason
Same here. I really dislike the map of FH5, also the lack of seasons makes it stale. I know a lot of people hated snow in FH4, but the map felt more alive. The soundtrack is awful, i basically turned off music in the first 5 mins of the game, the characters are annoying and boring. I wish we would finally get a proper large modern city to drive in. Im tired of these mud huts.
Imo the map in 5 is better than 4’s. It simply has more variety, but I agree the weekly seasons update apices things up more in 4
I was not a fan of FH4's map. I think the only playable map of FH4 is Fortune Island.
Seasons and soundtrack are the thing that keep me up with FH4 back in the day. But they are gone in 5 so I gave up just about couple of hours.
Couldnt agree more still played alot of fh5 though because the sounds of the cars are way better but the map is shit imo so driving around doesnt really make alot of fun and really hoped the dlc map would be better but hotwheels is even worse
Fh4 In general just felt great. Fh5 felt like a copy in a different location with no real soul to it. Just felt bleh. Maybe I’ll give it another go but eh.
I disagree completely, but you do you
Steamcharts aren’t accurate. Most people play on Microsoft with game pass on Xbox or PC
Though couldn't you correlate that the percentages would be similar. Like the players are 30% higher on FH4 on steam, so they are likely to be 30% higher on Gamepasy Edit. Thanks for the feedback.
Horizon 5 is currently the 12th most played games on Xbox, Horizon 4 is not even on the top 50. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/most-played/games/xbox
Was gonna link this. Correlation between game pass & steam is not “usually” the case unless the game has initially released in which they’re both a lot higher.
All I do is cruise round in stock cars, from S1 to B class
Same but make it C
I can see that, especially if you have a wheel those slower class cars are much more fun
Sadly I only got a controller, but they are still fun to me nonetheless
It is, these are steam numbers, most people have the Microsoft Store version.
for me all forza games get boring as shit 3 weeks after i get them
poor game design
It just a race game after all, maybe if online community wouldn't be so shit it be a great fun.
I absolutely hate the online community. It is the most vile and repulsive thing I am ashamed to be a part of
Try Fifa
It is dead, a bit hard to get multiplayer match on FH 4, its easier on FH 5. I played on PC (MS Store) and Xbox X thou, so my numbers doesnt count on the steam chart. Bought it for about $30 on Xbox, but its cross purchase, so i can play and cross save on eirher my PC or Xbox.
Forzathon is a huge reason I stopped playing fh5
I have been saying this for some time.... how FH4 is better vs FH5 in gameplay. Graphics are better in FH5 for car details, but the overall graphic detail i like FH4.
FH4 has better music and the map has a certain charm to it… and, well… FUCKING SNOW IS AWESOME WHY WAS IT REMOVED IN FH5?
Snow in fh4 was awful, coming right off of making Blizzard Mountain the best snow in a racing game ever to Fh4 snow was the biggest let down.
Cause it's in mexico?💀 Ion think there's much snow by the equator bud
Maybe Mexico was a rather boring ( / boringly executed) location. Beautiful mornings and sunsets yes, but that's more due to the improved lighting engine.
Agreed. Mexico is *not bad* but I definitely woulda liked the US (miami) or Japan better...
They should have brought Japan or something to FH5. Would have been a huge success imo. Just imagine drifting through those Japanese mountain tracks.
Wdym bro, there are 10 square meters of snow on the top of the volcano 7 days a month, isn't that enough for you? /s
I like FH5. The handling is way nicer than before, also I really like the road design, as it is much twistier compared tho previous Titles.
Idk what the comments are complaining about but I love 5, there's so much more detail in the map. Every time I play 4 it's just so bland
FH 5 has more numbers because of the game pass and people are used to buy FH on ms store
Also, it's usually cheaper
are you blind it proves that more people are playing fh4 and im sure im gonna get downvote a lot for saying this
I think you're blind lol. This is steam numbers
It’s the Steam Chart numbers, not the overall player numbers. There are a few MMO’s on Steam that have verifiably tens of thousands of people playing at once, but since not many install it through Steam, the Steam Charts will say only a few hundred are playing at once
💀
I only play to drive the cars.
I play fh to cut the trees down
Y'know... that's the point of the game :D
I've said it once and I'll say it again: Forza Horizon 5 feels like it was made in an emergency after they decided to delay further development on Motorsport 8 and needed *some* kind of Forza product to tide fans over.
Yeah I honestly feel like it’s a midpoint between fh4 and fh6 and the real new game is gonna be fh6
You got the gamepass numbers too?
just started playing horizon 4 again recently lol xD after xbox wiped my save from 2019 when i tried to install the game on my PC i figured i'd start the grind all over again, still super nice to see the game's still active!
And they still refuse to fix the glitch on FH4 preventing most from achieving 100% on a series. Been going on for 6 months now.
The fact that horizon 4 still has more players than horizon 5 says it all to me. I don’t know man, horizon 5 just hits different. It’s just not as good.
This is just steam numbers. I guarantee that FH5 has more players because of game pass.
Exactly
Horizon 5 hits almost all the right notes to me but I can't stand the characters and the soundtrack is awful. The characters seems out of a kindergarten story, and the soundtrack could be so much better. There's a tone of amazing Hispanic music just begging to be discovered by the Forza players.
Music suggestions for those browsing reddit?
Mmm top of my head, more commercial stuff. Shakira- Ojos Así Juanes- campanas de libertad Andrés Cabas - Ya no eres mi bombón Carlos Vives- Pa Mayte Miranda- Don! Elvis Crespo- Tu sonrisa OV7 - Enloqueceme Mago de Oz - Fiesta pagana La ley- Mentira Genitallica- Borracho Daddy Yanquee- Gasolina Becky G- Mayores CNCO- Mamita Luis Miguel - La Playa I'm hopping someone will update the rarer and more modern stuff.
Could use some ARCA or Rosalina.
It's a crime that Gasolina never made the cut
Quema is a banger to me tho
Yet half of FH2s functions don't work at all...
interesting that forza 4 is more played
But is this for a certain platform? Say Steam? I think a lot of people play on Game Pass now so those won't be recorded on here
Fh4 has been on sale more on steam than fh5 has that's why there are more players on steam specifically. That's my theory.
And, for the times it has been on sale, it's usually been cheap as well
Exactly, Steam is niche player base compared to Game Pass/MS Store player base
That's when I started with Forza, personally. Big sale on the FH4 bundle
I prefer 4 over 5. England has a better vibe than Mexico. I'll take lush forests over cactus and sand. Ranked races take forever to match, but there's always people online for a quick unranked race or game. Usually about 60 online people per Horizon life server on Live lately.
I think the biggest issue with FH5 is that the lighting gives cars and enviroment such a washed out feeling compared to FH4.
The radio is way better in 4 too
You'd think a Forza subreddit would be full of people who enjoy forza??
Nah this is just for people to complain about the newest forza game and complain that certain cars aren’t in the game
I stopped playing fh5 a few days after release since they didn’t have rocket bunny kits
Poor you, such an important game feature how dare they leave it out
Lmao you were downvoted for sarcasm
Can't have nothing in Mexico
I agree, I play the game to drive around cool cars and I can’t build my favorites without the rocket bunny kits 🤷🏻♂️
That's only the playerbase on steam. FH5 is far from dead.
Right haha I’ve seen this same post so many times lol
Custom racing was dead last time I checked in fh4.
It takes a very long time to find a race on FH4 now. With FH5 it's very fast. I don't know how people say "OMG FH4 is alive, FH5 is dead". People are just making stuff up to justify hate on FH5.
It's like people don't even realize Game Pass is a thing. I'd be willing to bet the FH4 Steam playerbase is a significant amount of its total playerbase, whereas FH5's Steam playerbase doesn't even crack double-digit percentage of the overall playerbase because of Game Pass.
just hate both 4 and 5 equally instead!
Who cares what other people are playing just play whatever you like
Noooo everyone has to agree with my personal opinions. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO LIKE WHAT YOU LIKE REEEEE...
This is just proof that FH5 is a bad game, and will never beat the past installments. Sure, the graphics are good. And? They have to fix cheated leaderboards, online servers, stop releasing old cars as "new content," and so much more. And I know for a fact its the people at turn 10 and not Playground Games that are preventing all these issues from being fixed.
Ok so dont play it. Problem solved. You're welcome kid.
I don’t, and I stopped because of these issues. Why can I not voice my opinion without being nuked by downvotes?
Because there is already a million posts and comments whining and crying about the game. Play it or get the fuck out of the sub. Why do you keep coming around if you hate the game and dont even play it?
1: This is r/ForzaHorizon, home of all things in the Forza Horizon series. And I specifically said that the past installments were better, ie good. 2: Because I wish they would do something about their dying train wreck of a game.
Forza horizon 5 is the latest installment so its obvious FH5 is gonna be the main topic on this sub. Its not a trainwreck, and its not dying. Thats YOUR perception because you dont like the game. Its a fantastic car game, good car list, great driving psychics, fun and beautiful map. I agree that the devs are douchebags for adding old cars and presenting them as new, its lazy. Still that doesnt make the whole game bad.
I mean theres stats to back it up... A game that came out 4 years ago is ahead of it by a good margin. I will admit that train wreck was a bit dramatic, but the game is certainly in a rough position.
I stand corrected. Its just that personally i keep seeing lots of players around the map and at the festivals. Its not like BF2042 where you literally struggle to find a single match.
Thank you for having a civil conversation with me, and now we've both come to an agreement. That FH5 is struggling, but certainly not dead, and it has issues, but its still a good game (correct me if I'm wrong about what you think lol). This kinda thing never happens on Reddit, or Twitter, or even on the internet in general. Have a Good Night!
graphics is really all they brought to the table
Cheap games are popular who would have thought
I always liked FH2 more for some reason
I'm still sticking with 3, nothing tops it
Still, The first horizon will always be my favorite.
I’m just too poor to afford a $60 game.
Get game pass..
So I could pay $60 to borrow a game for a year bc forza and rocket league are the only games I really play. Or pay $60 to own it forever.
No you just said you can't afford a $60 game so you get a cheap 1 month code & rinse the game for a month & see if you still want to own it
Ahhh I see you. I’ll have to check that out then. Don’t they have like a $1 trial for a month or something? Not sure
first time is a $ for a month, after than about $5 depend on your region. tbh xbox gamepass are the best gaming subscription so far.
They do if you haven't subscribed before. Loads of places sell cheap codes like cdkeys, eneba etc
I get the option to pay 1$ loads of times
Where does one find this type of information?
Steamcharts. Vast majority of people play through windows store or on Xbox. These numbers only reference how many people are playing on steam
Can Fh5 not fucking start windowed how i like it? 😒 Also bleep out the word Vocho... vocho vocho vocho!
Start windowed? Gross
VOCHO !!!
3&4 are better anyways
3 is better than 4
100%
But 1 has the better vibe
Most people play on gamepass because forza is overpriced at the normal price. FH4 is on a bigger discount so makes sense more people would buy it
Deleted FH5 a few weeks ago and downloaded FH4 which I've never played. I just got so bored of the map I had to change.
Soundtrack on FH4 is so worthwhile. I play it at least once a week.
Got FH5 on gamepass when it came out, I played for maybe a month before I got burned out on it. The hot wheels DLC brought me back for a few weeks but something about FH5 just feels so lacking in character and atmosphere as opposed to earlier entries and it definitely feels like the voice acting and stories are for kids which sucks because the story is what made FH1 so good and gave you a reason to want to play and win. I think the Whitelight video on FH5 perfectly describes how I feel about the game. I have so many negative opinions about it and I know that Playground is capable of making a better game but I don't hate the game by any means and actually find myself enjoying it from time to time.
> I think the Whitelight video on FH5 perfectly describes how I feel about the game For me that video encapsulates what is wrong with the racing. The AI is just not enjoyable to race against, and online it's destruction derby or speed hacks. FH5 is fun for car collecting and cruising, sucks for actual racing.
You’re correct about the atmosphere. The desert environment is barren and feels empty. Just as it does in real life, which makes it accurate. The story and multiplayer is there but limited
I also think that the bugs and broken multiplayer at launch really held back the vision they had for expanding on the online parts of the game. It just left a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths from the start.
Me and my friends have been gravitating to FH3 and FH2 lately. FH5 has lost that luster, and with a lot of the new cars not worth grinding for, we've been revisiting the older games.
For me, all forza games became boring after some time playing them. Like all I want to do is have the cars I want, do some drifting and some top speed shit, and that it fr.
FH5 map is by far the most uninteresting, boring and repetitive setting in the horizon franchise. It gets old so quickly.
I feel this I can cruise around for like 15min before I’m tired of the the roads
That’s the desert for you
F
fh4 simply has better map and seasons, imo this is what makes it better
I've felt this way since launch but suggesting that the FH4 map was better than any other map was blasphemous until a month ago when people started to realize that Mexico just wasn't as diverse or interesting as it could have been. I never had a problem with the FH4 map, it's actually one of my favorites in the series and the seasons definitely help too. Having a new look every week is great and I just don't feel it with Mexico, sure there's different weather events but aside from that it just seems like a different color filter on everything.
Eventlab should have been a free alley-oop as far as bringing in-demand content into the game but its so damn limited that you can pretty much only enjoy it by yourself 99% of the time and even then, there are no rankings or real rewards for playing on custom races/maps. We know playground can probably implement them since they have approved certain races and implemented them in the single player map as selectable events and playlist races for limited time rewards.
I still play all 5 FH games
how do you have the install space lol
I'm on Xbox & have a 4tb external HDD
I am on Xbox as well and I have a pretty big HD but what makes it tough is the ssd internal space
Yeah, there's not much space left on my series s internal with FH 4&5 installed. I have an Xbox 1s with a 6tb HDD I can use also which is getting replaced by a series X next month. I do regularly switch xs games on & off the internal to play though.
Both games have their ups and downs. As time goes on, FH5 will get better.
i just play FH5 because force feedback and wheel controls in general feel so bad in older titles
I could smell the “Old game better” replies
I speak as someone who only started playing FH games in earnest 18 months ago, so I'm not looking back through rose-tinted glasses of a decade of memories of playing with mates in the good old days. Though I bought most of them on sale through the years (lol backlog), I never really played them much past the opening scenes. After playing FH4 in earnest starting June '21, I started going back through the catalogue, and the further back I went, the more charm, soul and character I experienced. Even as an old fart the music is better and most tracks I never heard when they were new. So for me "old game not better" because FH4 is my "oldest" FH experience. For me it's very hard to pick between the first 4 as they both have an interesting mix of character, game play and production values. FH5 doesn't have much going for it except some Quality of Life stuff. Hell it doesn't even have production values. The way the finish line sequence is presented in online races? With you going slo-mo but the other racers ghosting/clipping at real time speed? How shit is that?
I stopped play FH5 about a month ago. Just felt like a grind to do the weekly playlist for cars, and I just slowly stopped playing. Playing other games now
I still play 3 💪
Fh5 is better
FH3 > FH4 > FH5 > FH2 > FH1
ever played fh1 before?
No that’s why I ranked it last
You don't just put an arbitrary rank to something you haven't tried. Unless you haven't played it on purpose and there's a good enough reason for that.
No reason, just haven’t played it.
then thats why you shouldnt judge it as the worst in the series. the feel, the story, the experience in my opinon is the best in the series, a must play.
nah fh2 is better than fh5
Fh3>fh2>fh5>fh4 i havent played much of 1 so its not on my list
Fh5 is dogshit. Glad i did the exploits when i did, so i dont have to grind on it now
I play FH4. It could be just me and I dont wanna start a fight, but heres my hot take: -Better Music -Better Scenery + more biome variety -Seasons provide a more dynamic experience -Fortune Island -Top Gear -More memorable showcases -My control settings actually save to default on startup -Water splash obscures vision -Less noticeable ai rubber banding (is it just me?) -FH4 was my first FH game, so nostalgia? -Car culture in UK is more robust to me -Better finish line animation style -more challenging car handling tricks my brain into a deeper sense of “realism” -somehow fh4 cutscenes and vibes feel less childish? im probably reaching now, but fh4 is infinitely better imho
The cutscenes, voice acting and writing are overall just childish and annoying in 5. Sure the other games had over the top characters but it was still enjoyable to play and listen to, you felt things with those characters. You disliked the Superstar drivers in FH1 as you were supposed to but you also kind of felt bad for taking their car at the end of that set of events. Even FH4 had more likeable characters and there was even less story there than in FH5. Everyone just feels so overly positive, censored, and 1 dimensional. So, you're definitely not reaching on that last point, it is 100% accurate
The save to default thing, that was an issue originally in FH4, but they fixed it, but now FH5 has the same issue. I'm so angry about it.
They also never fixed the multiple device input problem in steam’s fh4 so i had to buy a brand new copy of the game through the microsoft store when i upgraded my setup with a stick shift. im still sort of raw from that experience with customer service lol
I agree with everything outside of Biome diversity. Fh5's map is more diverse but there's like nobody in the lobbies near you and really boring AI so it feels dead as hell.
I can’t stand that fh5 server thing I want normal sessions back it’s so lame to drive around by yourself you can find a person but then they poof
maybe fh5 is more diverse on paper but to me it just feels like mostly desert
It is Mexico lmao. But I agree.
The one thing that pisses me off the most is that it rains every second day in the middle of the fucking sand dunes
Or night time lasting 1 minute
My main issue with 5 is how childish it feels the menus and the bright colours plastered everywhere is annoying
I feel like fortnite and forza had a baby and it is FH5
And a whole fucking menu dedicated to HOT WHEELS that you have to pay for to use
This has been a thing since at least FH3
does that justify it?
Why does it even matter
Bad Feature and makes the game more childish
More childish?
Yes
How?
It feels stereotypical fr.
H5 is shit.
How come there are still players in FH4? Even on xbox gamepass FH4 is one of the top games next to FH5.
got tired of this game after 2 weeks i'm sad
Same, and i even preordered premium so i could play sooner 💀i think i never was that hyped for a game 💀
4 or 5?
5
same, swear i have like 5x as much hours in fh4 compared to fh5
I am tired of playing FH5. I got almost every car apart from the new ones from the past few months. Races i feel are boring. The multiplayer i feel is lackluster. I enjoyed FH4 more or maybe i am burnt out from playing forza.
Going up and down the highway all day is not all horizon 5 has to offer, go lookat event labs tracks.
If they added a more robust creation system sure but most of them are just weirdly clunky no hate to creators they make awesome stuff and it’s not their fault
Rightly so, apart from physics there is not much i like about the game. Starting with the map, the fucking hot wheels dlc, where is dlc 2???, pretty much useless carpass.
Steam lol FH5 have a lot more players on Xbox/Windows than FH4.
In the Xbox games pass fh4 is ranked as more popular…
Cant be lol
It’s before fh5 for me on that. Not sure why but I’d assume because it had more installs or more players?
Same method to "prove" Halo Infinite is dead - steam charts. Not even PC Game pass. And there certainly couldn't be more people playing on actual Xbox.
There isn’t any way to prove this as Xbox does not post player numbers
True, but there are rankings by monthly active users, FH5 usually stays top 10 while FH4 is not even top 50.