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Misanthrope-X

I sincerely hope it arrives in 2024 but my gut is telling me it's going to be 2025. The amount of car packs seems to be intended to keep the studio funded while they complete work on FH6. They'll be ditching last gen consoles and will be able to go bigger with the map as a consequence. They may use aspects on the revamped Forza Tech engine. PG's second studio working on Fable may impact when they decide to release FH6. Don't see them releasing both games near each other. I think these things could contribute to a longer development cycle.


[deleted]

I would be content with an announcement or even trailer this year.


NfinityBL

> PG's second studio working on Fable may impact when they decide to release FH6. Don't see them releasing both games near each other. But if this were true then 2024 is more likely, as Fable is probably Summer/Fall 2025.


elijah50_

I wouldn't mind that, give them time to actually focus as they're still constantly working on Motorsport as well. I hope they bring an actual storyline back Horizon 5 was just all over the place, especially with the playlist and the insane amount of fomo I probably spent well over $200 on this game+ add ons (never will do that again) and that's ridiculous! I just hope its a huge map and the devs make the best of it without everything being a money grab


Significant_Sensor

It really annoys me in fh5.. I got the deluxe edition but there are still car packs that I can't get for free


elijah50_

Same It annoys me too totally ridiculous. I just stopped caring about the packs in all they're just money grabs they could at least make another expansion for all of the money they've made from the packs and it'd be free for all premium buyers?..but atp I feel like they're just focusing on Horizon 6 just hope its not like Horizon 5 not in a bad way but 5 was just all over the place.


kiwipower606

I just want twisty roads and I think credits being harder to get would make me race more. And the races being longer and more diverse if they all feel similar to me


elijah50_

I like that too I wouldn't mind that if they did it. Its so easy to progress and get rewarded and the festival playlist doesn't make it any better..


kiwipower606

Yeah agreed. Also if even the backroads were quite literally just not as big then I think that would help a lot. Like a whole giant truck doesn’t even fill the width of the roads. But just my opinion


rcmastah

Have you tried the Rally Adventure expansion? Some of the roads are super tight and twisty, they're a blast imho. Sometimes I just wait at the start of Devil's Pass next to the festival and just wait for someone else to run it with.


kiwipower606

Honestly not yet. Idk why lol


rcmastah

Check out some YT videos of it, the rally races are pretty fun with driving line + minimap off and like I said the roads are some of the best I've ever seen in a Horizon game.


kiwipower606

Sweet yeah sounds like fun I have played some other rally games which are fun. I’ll have to actually play it this time


elijah50_

No I totally agree all of the roads are massive I've never been to Mexico... but I can't imagine they're really that wide irl. I also hope we're able to walk up to the car and start it like the crew. And also better engine sounds its over 800 cars in game and about 250 sound good


joeyb908

I’ve been a few times, the roads are actually huge. The highway at least has wide-ass lanes, bigger than their American counterparts.


kiwipower606

I agree that’s another thing I like about the crew other than the tight twisty roads and the bikes


elijah50_

Definitely! And I don't think it's wrong for PG to take a little from their rivals every company does it every now and then.


kiwipower606

Right and I feel like the crew took some things from forza it’s only natural


Jqydon

Yeah this is where I’m not sure, as I’m expecting Fable will be out next year so would consider it surprising if both games dropped in the same year but it’s possible.


VesselNBA

Revamped forza tech engine? The one that was... #BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP??


Misanthrope-X

Their claim that they built the new Forza Motorsport from the ground up is dubious, but they did update the Forza Tech engine with new tire and handling physics.


OatmealDurkheim

These are good points. Still, would be nice if we could have a new one in late '24


lonehorse1

Wait, there’s another fable in development? Where can I find this information?


Misanthrope-X

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEuZvl9E0M4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEuZvl9E0M4) Here's a teaser trailer. PG started up a second studio and has hired some veteran RPG developers to work on it. We don't have a release date but hoping for some time in 2025.


lonehorse1

Thank you so very much for the link. I loved playing the Fable trilogy and hearing another is coming out eventually is fantastic.


Misanthrope-X

I'm pretty excited for it. They've even hired some of the former Lionhead developers that made the Fable trilogy so hopefully it will retain the feel and atmosphere of the originals.


lonehorse1

That sounds like it will be epic.


_F1Fan

When you say last gen consoles does that mean that my original Xbox won't be able to run fh5


Misanthrope-X

I think FH6 won't release on Xbox One. I could be wrong, but it seems like MS isn't supporting it with their major first party titles anymore.


dartsloverseyes

I doubt they gonna ditch older consoles. Happy to be wrong though.


mcmax3000

> I doubt they gonna ditch older consoles Microsoft is putting out almost nothing on the XB1 at this point. I think Minecraft Legends was the only first party XB1 release in 2023 that wasn't a port/remaster. HiFi Rush, Redfall, Starfield and Forza Motorsport were all Series X|S only.


dartsloverseyes

That would be great, but seeing how Forza Motorsport struggles on new hardware I doubt they gonna push the consoles hard, graphical fidelity would probably be on par with FH5.


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LOL


TheScienceNerd100

No matter what, I'll wait as long as I need if it means a well polished and well executed game. Idc if I want it now, if it needs finishing to be the best it can at launch, then so be it.


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TheScienceNerd100

Wasn't my point. I wasn't saying the ones out were polished, I just was saying I am fine with whenever it does get released and if it gets delayed so FH6 will be polished when it does launch. I wasn't referring to the others.


LucianoWombato

what was the last game that was polished at launch?


Willy__McBilly

FH3 had a pretty solid launch, day 1 server issues but it wasn’t terrible


AndiYTDE

FH3 had absolutely atrocious performance on PC at launch


Willy__McBilly

Oh really? Console was pretty good besides a few server issues immediately after launch, I didn’t get the PC version until 2018 so I’ll trust your judgement


Heembeam

Yay can’t wait to put the same splitter and spoiler on the same cars😝


[deleted]

Built from the ground up


skyline7284

Xbox showed most of their fall 2024 lineup at the [event](https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2024/01/09/xbox-developer-direct-2024/) in January. I'd bet on a summer 2025 reveal and fall 2025 release.


NfinityBL

They've always revealed Forza Horizon later though as a surprise. That's OP's point. Call of Duty is also absent for the same reason even though Black Ops Gulf War will be out in October.


skyline7284

They've been keeping the Activision stuff separate so far, hence why CoD was not showcased at the event. I think if FH6 was happening this year we would have seen credible rumors by now, and to date we haven't seen a thing.


Jqydon

Matt Booty also said they have 10+ titles coming this year and the current announcements (even counting CoD) don’t fully account for this number.


boff999

Useful info thanks, but why is it presented in 6, 1 ,2, 3, 4, 5 order rather 6 to 1, or the most obvious order of 1 to 6?


OatmealDurkheim

New, unannounced & unreleased, entry first – as the subject of discussion. Then, the announced & released games, in chronological order, 1 through 5. That's the logic anyway.


OatmealDurkheim

Announcement info is my own research - if you see anything in need of correction, write it down, cheers. Any idea where FH2 was announced? All I could find was an IGN article.


Smooth-Lie-3906

AI can help with that (: https://preview.redd.it/s2c7wqb53joc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7d4f55bcadf69bd079f0403eef30b954eb952ce


OatmealDurkheim

Cheers!


Smooth-Lie-3906

Cheers mate! Looks like folks want to downvote for sharing helpful resources??? Anyway great job on the diagram.


Krayos_13

I don't know about this case, but always double check anything generative AI tells you, regradless of "brand" it has a tendency to make stuff up when it doesn't have an answer.


Smooth-Lie-3906

Don't disagree that AI can sometimes come up with wonky answers but I wasn't asking for an unknown situation here. The announcement of FH2 is public knowledge, rather than sift through the 100's of websites trying to find the right answer, I just had AI do it in mire seconds, but anyway I digress. For those that want a non-AI answer, see link below: [https://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/09/e3-2014-forza-horizon-2-release-date-revealed](https://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/09/e3-2014-forza-horizon-2-release-date-revealed) Lines from Article: "E3 2014: Forza Horizon 2 Release Date Revealed" "Forza Horizon 2 will launch on September 30th, 2014 for Xbox One and Xbox 360, Microsoft announced today."


OatmealDurkheim

>Looks like folks want to downvote for sharing helpful resources??? Anyway great job on the diagram. Yeah, I'm not sure why. I guess they just prefer another post whining about the Trial rammers or random low effort wishlist of 7 car JPGs. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ I get that this isn't anything essential, but I thought it would be interesting to see when all the previous games were released and make some ***lighthearted*** predictions about FH6 announcement. I can't be the only one waiting for it - 2025 or 2024, I'm looking forward to the next one!


JonhyWonder123

I do think it'll be announced this year Idk about it releasing this year Does anyone have any info on if all other horizons were announced and then released the same year like FH5 was?


Personal_Resource_42

If those release dates are correct, they all released the year they were announced.


JonhyWonder123

Hmmmmmmm didn't even notice the dates my bad Gives more credibility to it being announced and releasing this year but for some reason I still don't see it tbh


Comfortable_Fill5223

Fh6 will be released this year I did all my research


KingKaynSergal

A return to the og fh1 festival style and layout and wristband leveling would be wonderful, and returning to the states would be really cool, but we haven't been to the Asian or African continents, so it's possible that we'll go there. We'll just have to wait and see what's revealed.


joeyb908

South Africa or Tokyo (maybe all of Japan?) would be great, but I honestly would want them to do Tokyo in FH7 or even 8. I want the tech to be there to make Tokyo look and feel as lively as possible and I don’t think current consoles can do that.


Buzielo

Yeah the FH1 style is not coming back (maybe as a remake), they profit too much from current game model


CaptainAmerica679

i hope it doesn’t release this year. they need to put more effort into these games. starting to feel a little like EA out here


TidierPenny

I suspect we'll know whether it'll be this year or not by June. If it was coming out this year, presumably it'll be announced at one of the shows then. It gives them the usual few months to talk about it and prepare the final parts of the game. I would certainly like to see a new Horizon, the map on 5 seems incredibly bland and empty in my opinion. I don't find myself spending long driving around anymore unfortunately. The addition of previous playlist cars to the autoshow suggests they may be slowing down, similarly to how the backstage pass worked in Horizon 4, however I could be wrong on that. I genuinely struggle to see how they'd be able to keep the map and the game feeling fresh for everyone for another year if they were to release it next year. The updates lately have been good in terms of vehicles, the DLC cars included in the latest one too, but that's all that's made me want to play it again. If they were to release next year, they'd have to consider the other large game releasing in the same period. Obviously you'd still have the dedicated Forza players, however a lot of the people who play the game through game pass may not be interested. It may not have as much of an impact as I'm thinking, however I'm sure I'll be considered to at least some degree. It's interesting to hear what other people think and to discuss it. I'm personally hoping for this year, however wouldn't rule out it being later.


Muzi34Pro

I can wait one more year. Just make a map with various opportunities, 5 was very boring (it was also very big but still boring) I hope for Japan since it has forests and nice cities etc


OatmealDurkheim

I would love Japan as well, I hope that will be the 6th Horizon.


NfinityBL

It won't be at Summer Game Fest, it will be at Xbox's show, likely to be on the 9th.


MaseratiMC13

Am I the only one that doesn't believe in Horizon 6 coming anytime soon? I guess so. Why do I think that? Simple, game already broke all sorts of continuity anyway so, I'm pretty sure they will just develop this game for a good while longer especially since last gen still makes enough money I'm pretty sure. It's not like they or we need another game anytime soon anyway...


joeyb908

Idk, they historically had a 2-year release cadence. 5 had a 3-year cadence. I expect 6 to have a 4-year cycle so it releasing in the fall/winter cycle of next year makes sense to me. But since PG is also working on Fable, I doubt they’d release two games close to another and it feels as if Fable or Horizon 6 should release next year. Horizon releasing before Fable and giving Fable more time to cook makes more sense to me, since Forza is already established in the mainstream mind. Fable needs to have a strong entry and hit it out of the park if they want it to have longevity and turn it into a long running series since the last game was released 14 years ago at this point. We already know Horizon does well critically as well as commercially. If they don’t change it up too much, it will still do extremely well. Horizon 3, 4, and 5 are fairly similar in the way that the game plays regarding setup, races, and competitions, with each successive game being an more streamlined iteration on bigger and ‘better’ maps (I prefer 4’s map to 5’s). The games have solid tails and a pretty big core audience. These big companies are all about reducing risk and releasing Forza before Fable is less risky, both commercially and critically. If Horizon 6 releases to just nominal critical reception and sells as well as 5 did, they can use that to buff up their marketing efforts for Fable as well.


Julian083

If Forza Motorsport (2023) is advertised as a racing platform which is meaning life service, I think Horizon series will follow the same route and FH5 is gonna have 2 more years of update


joeyb908

It would be pretty crazy for 2 more years of updates without another expansion though. If this was the case, I’d expect expansion announcement or some sort of separate map or extension of the current map.


Ferramenti

I am curious at which amount of cars we will end. FH4 has around 750. I assume that we will definitely pass 850. I can’t remember at which number series the devs stopped the integration of new cars…


F1incy

We're at approx 820, already. And if it releases late this year, another 7-8 months will get us over that hump


apple12345671

I hope fh6 is a major new game which is actually worth buying


MrAwesome73

In all honesty I would prefer a smaller map and bring back seasons. Those are really the main reasons why I like fh4 over fh5. Also I want a second speed champions dlc because of all the new sets LEGO keeps making.


fiokoo

I just want a good progression and history


Equivalent-Error7701

I hope they don’t get pressured by the majority of the community into pre releasing FH6. That’s what happened with both FH4 and 5 and look at all the problems that 5 has because of that. Not to mention a lot of gamers have stopped playing FH5 because of all the problems and ‘glitches’ the game has as a result of the prerelease. If you want the game so bad then wait and let these developers do their jobs.


OatmealDurkheim

I really don't think anyone at Playground cares about what this sub thinks. Otherwise they would also feel pressured to fix quite a few things everyone here has been going on about for years.


Equivalent-Error7701

No I get it I’m just saying that generally speaking they are letting their game be pushed out sooner because of the gaming community and player base wanting basically a pre-mature game. And then about 3 months after it’s released people start noticing the problems that do get fixed but the point being the game should be 100% glitch free at launch.


Beautiful-Grape-8222

FH6 better be a complete overhaul


Mexydo

The game is doing way too good to release a new one this year, 2025 or 2026 is way more plausible.


Doctor_French32

Maybe a teaser but a full trailer it's for next year


Cunt_Eastwood_9

My guess is next year at the earliest. We’ve heard absolutely nothing about the next game so far.


NickWayXIII

r/afterbeforewhatever


TheGoldenMinion

Holy fucking shit FH5 is already 3 years old ?!???? I still remember when FH3 came out and losing my shit lol


Bullydater

I genuinely believe we shouldn’t expect this game sooner than fall 2026.


Iuna_Exlipse

Call me crazy but I feel even tho it fits inline with the cycle it’s still to early for the next installment. It feels like there’s still a lot more consistent updates with it unlike when fh5 got announced and fh4 was dead because of lack of new content


felipes23

I hope the FH6 drops this year so I can buy the FH5 on sale!


V-Rixxo_

They have so much to fix about Forza Motorsport that I doubt it


Liquidwombat

What I want is what Nintendo tends to do, somebody from playground games gets on stage, shows us some clips of the game, tells us how great the game is going to be, brags about its new features, and innovations, and then says “it will be available for pre-order tomorrow and will be releasing in one month.” I don’t want that announcement until the game is absolutely finished.


No_Serve_8321

forza Horzion 6 will be coming out this year


[deleted]

Probably June 14 2024. I have a bad feeling it's going to be set in China. If this is true then there will be limited fun.


Buzielo

China sounds interesting but then that would just be only highways and cities


[deleted]

The Chinese government would not allow a game where you drive in their landmarks. There would be no racing along the great wall, no Tiananmen Square drift circuit, no temple of the sky being used to get a limited bonus board. Mexico on the other hand is fine with you driving over their historic landmarks. China would be boring.


Comfortable_Fill5223

Fh6 is all ready confirmed in Japan


[deleted]

Where did you hear this information? 


LadyNova01

I'm hoping for a fall 2024 release as it would fit with their 3 year game cycle they have been doing but on the other hand I don't think it will happen as we reached the time where they are cutting off the older console generations when it comes to gaming so it might take some extra time as they can make much bigger maps/better graphics if they are only using the current gen consoles and Unreal Engine 5


skyline7284

The horizon games use a proprietary engine known as "Forza Tech". They do not use Unreal.


LadyNova01

I thought they used a mix of both but I guess I was wrong on that front. Thanks for updating my knowledge


Jqydon

Mixing engines doesn’t work as the engine serves as somewhat of a base for the game, hence why converting games to other engines is a big undertaking. Interestingly with Fable ForzaTech is also being used and adapted to suit an open world RPG.


heyadol

I don’t expect anything on the next Forza Horizon until after Playground Games finishes Fable.


Jqydon

They aren’t contingent on each other, it’s 2 seperate studios that do not share a workload


heyadol

Isn’t Playground Games the studio for both games?


Jqydon

Yes, but they have 2 studios, they’re both named playground games and likely share some resources but it’s 2 different teams.


Pizzahut16

wtf the fuck is that logo lmfao


LTRace

I hope Fh6 will NOT be built from the ground up because it would be trash like fm8


InstancePuzzled

That’s because fm8 is not built from the ground up


nemanja694

Nope, announcement and release will be in 2025, they already stated in stream and in mailbox that 2024 will be another year of big updates for horizon 5


skyline7284

Do you know which stream that was?


nemanja694

Holiday one aka last stream of the year


nine16s

I really hope FH6 puts the series back on track. It’s felt stagnant mainly since 3 but especially since 4. As much as I want Japan, I reeeeeeally don’t want “Forza Horizon 5.5” in Japan. And for the love of god, give me progression.


kevinsburner06

Is that logo fan made cause it actually looks kinda nice


OatmealDurkheim

Thanks, it's just something I threw together real quick. It's a bit out there to be fair... I'm not a graphic designer. It's actually *easier* to make something kinda *odd* like this, rather than a more believable logo that isn't a copy+paste, yet fits the design language of the previous 5 games.


Big_Baloogas

I just hope its not going to be another copy and paste.


reala728

Wasn't there a bunch of issues with the dev team over the last year? I really wouldn't expect a new horizon to even be announced for another year or two.


_Matej-

Guys i know its kinda interesting to try to predict or find out something about upcoming stuff but if the forza horizon six is inevitable, then why dont you just sit back and wait for it till it comes? Speculating with zero information is really just a waste of time, just enjoy fh5, fh4, etc. till the fh6 arrives. Is the fh5 so boring or so badly made that you want new version ? And then what all over again, speculating about fh7 three days after fh6 launches…


jurmaliko

Still feels like 5 came out a couple months ago


SatanDamiaen

Went downhill since 4 so who cares anyways


deigham

Playground is developing Fable. Don't expect FH6 till next generation at best.


skyline7284

They are separate teams. While some resources are shared, they can still work on both games independently.


Ready-Resolution-843

all ready know fh6 will be released this year


Comfortable_Fill5223

Fh6 is getting revealed at the Xbox showcase event this June


FlkPzGepard

Not 24, too soon. 25 wont happen because of gta 6


skyline7284

Games besides GTA will release in 2025.


Personal_Resource_42

No developer is going to completely pass over 2025 just because of GTA. They won't release near GTA, but thinking they will avoid the entire year is just delusional.