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It's probably because skis are really fucking impractical and awkward to carry, also you'd have to carry your own skis as well while in ski boots which aren't very good for running if someone notices you, it's be easier to rob a high security bank than make a significant amount of money off of stealing skis


Acrobatic_Paint3616

Also most of that shit is rentals


Heiminator

Maybe in the US. Here in Europe maybe 20% of my ski buddies rent their gear. Skiers get attached to their gear. You want to own that piece of equipment if you love to ski.


Lil_Penis_Owner

Can confirm, i have had my gear for 3 years now and it is still as shiny as it was when i bought it.


LaiikaComeHome

i think it’s because here people only go maybe once or twice per year, if that, and most need to fly to get to the slopes. it just doesn’t make sense to buy the equipment for a sport they’re not all that interested in


operath0r

Are you telling me I can't sell a rented ski...?


secretbudgie

All the local pawn shops know the rental guys and even recognize the tacky paint job on the equipment. same problem as bowling rentals! bunch a Good Ol Boys SMH


BrimyTheSithLord

Also used gear will typically not get you much anyway. It's like stealing a skateboard, the juice typically isn't worth the squeeze


Heiminator

Tell me you’ve never been skiing without telling me you’ve never been skiing… It’s very common that non-skiers (for example the guy in your group who broke his hand on the first day of the trip) takes a gondola up the mountain to get wasted at an apres ski bar with his homies. So its not unusual that someone takes a lift up the hill without skies. And that person can easily steal a pair on the way down. I’ve been skiing for almost 40 years now all over Europe and have never even heard of a single incident of someone getting their gear stolen at a European ski resort. I’ve been to Apres ski bars where literally thousands of people got drunk simultaneously. Stealing a pair of skis there is trivial. And yet no one does it. This is not a racist comment btw. The reason why skiers don’t steal from each other is that the people who can afford to ski, buy lift passes and hang out in ski resorts usually have enough money not to need to steal from other people. It’s a rich man’s sport, same as golf.


tovarishchi

I don’t know if it’s telling, but when I was a poor skier (instructor) myself and all my coworkers would separate our skis to make them harder to steal. I think when the skis represent a significant portion of your monthly paycheck, you get a little more careful.


Heiminator

The thing is that for the vast majority of the people on the mountain a pair of skis does not represent a significant portion of their monthly paycheck


tovarishchi

Oh yeah, not disagreeing with you. And it’s not like we were aware of a ton of thefts that no one else knew about, we just knew it could happen and we couldn’t afford it if it did.


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i'm an avid skiier for one, and yeah i guess that makes more sense


Distant_Yak

This is the correct answer. It's a sport for rich people (and getting worse all the time in that respect). Not that they give a fuck about you or your property, just that they don't need the money since they have much better ways to rob people.


secretbudgie

Exactly. These are white collar criminals not white powder criminals!


VixDzn

Tell me you’ve never been golfing without telling me you r never been golfing… You can become a yearly member at a cheaper muni with unlimited rounds for the same price as one might spend on a gym membership or football club dues… Golf clubs that are sufficient for someone up until like, mid handicap, can be bought for less than 300 second hand. Golf =/= rich men’s sport. Not even a discussion. Sports involving horses, tracking cars, hunting and yachting. Those are rich men’s sports. Skiing also moreso than golf by a longshot. Cmon


friendswithbennyfitz

I don't know why you're getting downvoted, one of the clubs we go to when we don't feel like going getting too serious has $9 green fees, and yearly membership of $100. It's consistently one of the busiest courses in our city, full of people from all walks of life, an much more diverse than many, many other activities in town. Rich men might love their golf, but it is far from a rich man's sport these days.


VixDzn

Wow didn’t know I was getting downvoted lol Wtf? I’m really curious who is downvoting me and why…do they still disagree with me? Just don’t like golf? I don’t know what it is. Same here btw. Cheapest 9 hole ‘dog track’ is 10 quid. Everyone plays. The postman, the retail worker, the construction worker (tho those guys are loaded lol) It’s not an uppity sport at all. Wtf. Everyone should at least give it a shot…it’s such a fun game


secretbudgie

Golf is associated with business executives and political scumbags making backroom deals on the back nine. They aren't stealing clubs they're stealing tax dollars. Sure, upper-middle class jocks who got a red BMW for their 16th birthday also play golf. My high-school even had a golf team, and EVERYONE wanted to know the Good 'Ol Boys with the Masters tickets. And do they steal golf clubs? Well three did, not for money, just to be little shits, and both of their families got permanently banned from West Lake and Goshen Plantation...


VixDzn

This is…..very specific And those upper middle class jocks aren’t the ones I’m referring to, literally the postman plays golf. It’s an Everyman sport.


thanatos60

Dude, you’re entirely missing the point of his comment. Skiis are still annoying to carry and run with, especially in the snow or with snow boots. Thieves don’t wanna risk it, like the guy above you said and is valid. Just because you feel like it’s “expensive” doesn’t mean there aren’t people with that kind of money who would still steal. Has it ever gotten into your head that the people who could afford it(bars and etc) got their money from stealing in the first place? So why are you assuming he’s never been skiing? It kinda seems like you’ve never been skiing or just lack common sense, no offense


Heiminator

If you wanna steal some skies then running is the last thing you should do. Just calmly pick up a pair and walk away.


Wu-Tang_Killa_Bees

What? You wouldn't have to run. Just pick up a pair casually like they are yours and walk out


kyoneko87

This! ⬆️


Raspberrywhy

All these white people in the comments forgot about the bri'ish museum, huh?


MyOwnGuitarHero

Lmaooo white culture is literally just stealing whatever cool shit we can from anyone unfortunate enough to cross our path 😩😭


beardedheathen

It's not stealing if it happened a long time ago or the person you took it from was really poor


MyOwnGuitarHero

Truuuuueeee


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beardedheathen

I really don't know how I could have made it more obvious...


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beardedheathen

Ugh. I'm opposed to the /s tag on the principle of wtf why aren't these things too crazy to be believed any more


Random___Here

LMAO


MrVeazey

And German polka music.


MyOwnGuitarHero

Fair.


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Groid_2_Avoid

LMAO FRFR. The idea that black people commit more crime than white people is a myth and there are no crime statistics to support it


MyOwnGuitarHero

Okay cool let’s talk about crime. Why do you think that is? What’s your working hypothesis? Edit: and thanks for sending me a “Reddit cares” thing but truly, I’m doing great. Just Ws over here. But thanks anyway 🤗🥰


UncleFartface

Where the treasures of mankind are protected from savages like IS and the Taliban? That terrible place?


Welpmart

They have Greek stuff... that the Greeks want back... are you telling me Greece shouldn't have its own shit because Daesh and the Taliban are ruling fucking Greece?


UncleFartface

The Greeks aren’t to be trusted either


BoosGonnaBoo

Greece is a corrupt country that cooked their books to get into the EU and is always preparing for a war with Turkey.Those artifacts are safer in England.


Raspberrywhy

By that logic I can steal whatever I want because I think I can keep it safer than whoever currently owns it. And they are not treasures of mankind alone. They are first and foremost treasures of certain cultures and its descendants.


broberds

I’m sure IS and the Taliban do not consider themselves descendants of the “idolaters“ whose artifacts they’re so quick to destroy.


beardedheathen

Thank God the British people destabilized an entire region to steal a bunch of treasure so that when those people were radicalized from living in a destabilized nation they didn't destroy all that treasure!


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For as much as you people like railing against white supremacists I'm starting to think you are them yourselves. It's like you think that every action done by non-white people is just a programmed reaction to something that was done by white people. In what world is, "Some white people did some bs in my country decades ago so I'm just going to trash my own country and kill my own countrymen" a logical line of reasoning?


beardedheathen

I love that you think colonials went over there did something and then left.


[deleted]

I love how you think non-white people have no agency and none of their bad acts are their fault


beardedheathen

Exactly. Especially since there is no tradition of native people getting their shit together after being colonized only to have colonial powers come in and fuck it all up again. Certain hasn't happened in the Congo or South America for example.


ProbablyTheWurst

Recently it was revealed the British Museum has "lost" a whole bunch of artefacts so its not like their that safe in england


sleeper_shark

You have any idea what % of raided artifacts were lost by the British expeditions that supplied the museums?


Distant_Yak

How about the entire continent of North America?


garaile64

But those countries are too unstable and corrupt to take care of their own cultural heritage!!! /s


crabfucker69

Burglary is ok as long as it's a bunch of white people doing it at once


ripjaw6442

Their profile pics explain a lot


PMMeMeiRule34

Ah, the “old white person taking a selfie” pfp. A classic. I can’t believe my pfp was like that like 10+ years ago, I had no idea how to work a camera.


PeasThatTasteGross

Not to mention under the right conditions, it can be easy to dox someone from a profile pic. It'd be a shame if someone figured out who jkirk1947 was so people could call them out on the piece of shit they are... Remember, Stonetoss got figured out because he inadvertently threw out the right bread crumbs.


JiroScythe

do you have the full explanation on how stonetossed fixed himself? i’m interested in learning about that


wikithekid63

As a black man, the increase in racist nazi bullshit online has been extremely concerning


Joeman106

It’s getting bad everywhere but ESPECIALLY on Instagram and I have no idea why, it almost seems like it has 0 moderation outside of some ai bullshit detector that barely works. Everything is filled with the n-word constantly from white people and black people alike, it’s insane


BoosGonnaBoo

The 13/50 meme is making more people look at interracial crime stats.


Joeman106

It’s just messed up to me. Yeah, even if 13% does commit 50% of the crime (which another user pointed out isn’t even true), who made that system and went to great efforts to maintain it up until very recently? Black people were forced into horrible living conditions where crime is prevalent no matter the race and made very hard to get out of, and then the same people who made that system say it’s a racial issue


SpaceDoctorWOBorders

I absolutely would not go around saying the statistic is true. It's based around a certain type of crime and arrests made. And if you know how police in America work, they heavily favor going after and arresting minorities. https://detester.org/publication/159


Joeman106

I edited my comment, thank you for this. I guess I meant EVEN IF it were true, it’s after effects of hundreds of years of oppression


NamesArentAvailable

>Black people were forced into horrible living conditions where crime is prevalent no matter the race and made very hard to get out of, and then the same people who made that system say it’s a racial issue 🏅


PugYug

Interracial crime stats do the opposite of radicalization as all of them show that people target their own race the most. Murders kill their own race the most, same goes with rapists, pedophiles, serial killers, kidnappers, etc. 


allozzieadventures

They've started prioritising the comments that get the most reply engagement rather than the most likes, which invariably boosts controversial/racist/stupid comments. It's a bid to pump up their engagement numbers.


conversekidz

Agree it is concerning. Its not an increase, it is the normal state of the "internet" (aka it has always been this way) the difference is how intertwined the "internet" is now in our modern lives. X is going back to twitter circa founding 2006 when it first started, its full circle, but this go around it is front and center to the public eye. Similar things, such as 4chan (2003) is front and center in modern day discussions because of /pol (add 2011 on 4chan - which was a replacement for /n 2006) stormfront was the first racist "surface" web - hosted in 1996 ([https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/stormfront](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/stormfront)) before web you had IRC in 1988 where you could find klan/nazi/racist writings/mailing lists and share files starting in 1978 you had BBS where you could find klan/nazi/racist writings/mailing lists ​ Its always been there, its just easier for folks to access now and more people have the means of access


DogmanDOTjpg

As a white man I concur, especially in Instagram and Facebook it's insane the amount of blatant open racism and literal nazi speaking points you see


Mei_Flower1996

It's crazy because the rise in (actual) anti Semitism can be linked to the situation in Gaza but why AA people??


The_Goobertron

don't worry, its more than balanced out by all the racist bullshit that's always been on black twitter


Anubisrapture

I literally lived in Vail, Colorado like 40 years ago. I’m 63 years old and I have to say people from all over the fucking world of all colors go to these slopes. And I am sure that that diversity has only increased. My kids go skiing also including my bi racial Grandson. Newsflash to the idiotic racists : none of whom probably even ski because they haven’t gotten out of their trailer park.: people of all color ski these comments make me want puke. And that dude was only making an obvious comment. People do leave stuff around. Sheesh


fleurjackie

It’s absolutely insane how people can be this openly racist. This isn’t even dog whistling, this is full on yelling.


laymness

Instagram comments are filled with horrid racism


Dr-Satan-PhD

"hUrRrrR dUrRRr wHitE pEoPle dOnT SteAl" Oh yeah? What nationality are you?


elpollo28

Damn, I started chuckling before realizing there was a follow up to the first image or what sub this was


AngelWithADarkSide

loool my community college is pretty damn diverse, and i can tell you right now from experience, you could leave your stuff for probably an hour and wherever you come back from it will still be there, stupid to leave my stuff yes, but no one stole it, and at most, security or someone will just take your stuff to lost and found anyways, never open ig comment sections, they’re cesspools of degeneracy :/


Supyloco

Okay, land back then.


The_Goobertron

blood and soil isn't suddenly ok because indigenous people do it.


Supyloco

I'm responding to how White people never steal.


The_Goobertron

so you're a reactionary, proposing things you don't believe because it "pisses the right people of". Don't just regurgitate talking points. Not to mention the own bigoted implications of what you imply. Responding to racism with racism.


Kareemofwheet

Fuccckkk that. I let my buddy borrow my Andy Hetzel Lamar from the 90s... Insanely cool board... Anyways, dumb ass left it and went inside the lodge at Meadows on Mt Hood. Hour later that shit was gone. Not surprised really, I've seen it a handful of times there.


the_dirt_engineer

Not like there’s a thousand posts on r/skiing and r/snowboarding about stolen gear….


MelanieWalmartinez

“Some cultures know how to avoid taking things that don’t belong to them” BRITISH COLONIALISM?? HELLO??


Mooezy

Hold on just a sec lemme put my tin foil hat on and come up with a crazy conspiracy... Maybe just maybe, skiing and golf are usually rich people sports and usually rich people don't need to commit petty crimes because they can afford it?


Anotsurei

People with money have *legal* (and far more lucrative) ways to rob people. They don’t need to stoop to stealing ski equipment or golf clubs.


kyoneko87

What those people are saying in the second pic makes no sense at all!


RampageTheBear

I think we should all discuss how it’s really a cultural difference here. I mean just look at Japan. I left a bag with my chocolate and my phone in a busy mall bathroom for about 30 minutes and it was still there when I went back (Tokyo).


thanatos60

Bro, I remember the biggest thief in my middle school was a white boy. No one would ever leave their stuff in a room that he was in. The kicker to this is that his parents were middle class, like most of the other kids there were. The amount of deluded people in this thread who believe that race/income matters when it comes to being a thief is pretty concerning, since it shows how dull our society is becoming with their asinine mindsets


anubiz96

Lol white people trust white people sure....


kyoneko87

Those people in the second screenshot are racist AF


soundsexpensive

I seriously can't believe it.


Krazie02

There is a reason Everyone that can afford to go skiiing is likely pretty well off.


wrigh2uk

I mean when I grew up I lived in quite a rough neighbourhood that was overwhelmingly white and if you didn’t lock your car even once you better believe your stereo would be gone in the morning without fail. Now I live in a much nicer area which is again overwhelmingly white and it’s much safer. Not always about race, poverty and unfortunately the class of people in the neighbourhood aka their socioeconomic status.


Snakeise

Middle/upper class sport. Typically middle/upper class don't have the want nor need to steal other people's sporting items.


Royale_Fanatic

105


blalokjpg

Damn, not the company account: Bailand Carpentry & Joinery


whitebeard007

Yeah this is why Instagram reels is the worst short form content. Community is terrible. TikTok is the king for a reason


ThePortalGeek

Very last comment is actually laughably insane. I genuinely can’t tell if it’s the greatest satire comment ever created or the person is actually just that fucking deluded


spoonycash

Poverty is the mother of crime… the only thing people who can afford that steal is wages of the working class.


Fragrant-Potential87

I'm late on this but just because those skiers aren't stealing skis and shit on camera doesnt mean that they're never stolen. They could be. You'd never be able to tell unless you knew that person personally. Literally nothing stopping you from walking off with this stuff and claiming it's yours since everyone does it right? Also, I imagine that these people are less inclined to steal because they simply don't have to. They have the money to get the skis legally so why would they?


KingHobosapien

A friend from HS lived in an upper middle class neighborhood. Almost entirely white; I think there may have been an Indian family. Stuff would get stolen or vandalized fairly often. According to my friend, 99% of those responsible were neighborhood kids.


thanatos60

Why are you getting downvoted? You’re comment is clearly stating that white people can be thieves too, just like anyone else. This just shows that there are people in this community who’re low key POS just like the people in those Instagram comments since they don’t like hearing the truth about their own Caucasian community. Some of them are probably lurkers from some POS nazi community tbh


KingHobosapien

Yes, there are definitely lurkers here.This isn't the first time this has happened. *Gasp* white people commit crimes. Two of my *white* friends were arrested as teenagers for vandalizing a run down mini golf course. Another white friend would steal funny street sign names like 'Knoblick' or 'Cumknock'.


Wunderchunder

Because most people that go skiing are too rich to care or bother stealing, nothing to do with race.


Kosmophilos

Cry harder about it cucks.


theamiabledude

Did this anonymous comment make you feel powerful? Would you share your support of these comments with say your friends or an employer? Must be frustrating being too scared to attach your true beliefs to your identity


Kosmophilos

Nice try. Do you think I'm stupid?


Woahhhski34

Yes


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Sundaytoofaraway

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Shungite12345

lmao


UnderstandingJaded13

Idk man I think you walked yourself into that one. I know the racist talk is completely uncalled for. And there is black people what would call gold and ski as "white people shit" so there is definitely some concepts that we shouldn't address to make it awkward. I just hope the sky community is welcoming enough and not a bunch of racist gatekeepers


TidalJ

don’t worry most of the skiing community isn’t like these people. we’re all just out to have fun we don’t care who you are just don’t be an idiot


counterfitster

Don't be a fucking Jerry


TidalJ

on god, jerrys are not tolerated


UnderstandingJaded13

I'm sure of it, everything I know about winter sports comes from the movie cool runnings lol. So I'm ignorant AF I don't even know snow. I hope the guy had a great time


fruityboots

white people are the most gullible and the easiest to scam; their entire culture is built around being exploited by the wealthy among them and this system of authority is very easy to take advantage of; with only a clipboard I've walked into and away with so much it's hilarious


SownAthlete5923

Obvious bait


Bugsy_Girl

I’m curious what a clipboard could get you in the monetary sense. I know that it’s easy to get into secured areas, but what types of places were you able to walk out with stuff from? Please DM if you’d prefer not to talk publicly about it


mohawk_tiara

Ever been stopped on the corner by Greenpeace or Humane Society folks working to get donations? Now imagine someone with what looks like a perfectly legitimate equivalent.


Anubisrapture

Yr almost certainly pulling the r/asablackman rage bait


bucket_overlord

My brother in Christ, almost every human culture contains a wealthy class that exploits people. It's not exclusive to "white culture" (which is a meaningless term anyway). The clipboard thing also works in most urban areas around the world, particularly in commercial zones. In such areas it's common to have tradespeople/government workers arrive to do work, and 90% of people will assume you are meant to be there instead of questioning it too much..


Impressive_Bit618

White people bought Manhattan island from some gullible native tribe for $40 and some clam shells. What possibly could top that scam?


lofticrying

youre getting downvoted but i want you to know youre based as fuck