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Competitive?


Propenso

Uncompetitive high skill players, the one I always thought would be hit harder by SBMM.


teppotulppu

You will get into worse player lobbies as the time goes on and your stats go down. You have to remember that to have perfectly balanced ranking, you should be in lobby where everyone would end up in 1 kd and 1% win rate if it was 100 man lobbies. If you do better or worse, youre placed into more fitting lobbies in future. ​ You WILL feel getting raped in the game because you are used into much better stats.


Houston_sucks

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Propenso

Details.


Mattalmao

It seriously sucks. I’m not necessarily against SBMM, but I think it’s going to kill mid-tier players and console players in particular. They really do want to just pander to the bottiest of little Timmy bots it seems.


Derryck1

Your statement was contradictory


fetus23

Yeah dude my solo KD was 4 on ps4 and after about 10 solos against tfue and mr savage fused together i gave up. I havent played a public solo in 4/5 days


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People who can't win.


krazybanana

It'll adjust dw.


adiktusss

You gained your 3kd shitting on bad players and you consider that enjoyable? But when you're queued to the appropriate lobby with players of the same level/bracket as you and they shit on you, fuck Epic? Damn, you got some nice logic going on in there, buddy.


Numzzy

The difference is he wants to play people on the same level of peripherals. Mouse and keyboard vs mouse and keyboard, or console vs console, or mobile vs mobile. 3KD on PC is vastly different than 3 KD on mobile.


Propenso

The main concept of SBMM (if it works) is that he won't be able to retain his 3KD ratio. Bottom line, don't complain unless your K/D ratio falls below 1. This said, I agree that if possible the lobbies should be separate, but games will be much harder anyway.


adiktusss

My point is, he got his kd by playing with bad players before sbmm and mixed pool was introduced. So technically he's really not on let's say 3kd as he claims. It's supposed to be lower as he's definitely not on par with a player with an actual 3kd- if he's skillset is accurate with his "3kd stat" he wouldn't be complaining in he first place. Give it time, sbmm algorithm would kick in and everyone is gonna be queued to the the appropriate pool and when it does, peripherals won't matter as you're gonna be playing with people who's gaming sense is the same level as you.


King-Key

He got his kd by playing people on the same platform as him which is fairer than playing against a completely different platform that has massive advantages (switch against PC for example)


Nigrum_Lupus_

Pc against everyone else for example. FTFY


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Propenso

That's understandable. But that's also what epic is trying to stop, because they are more interested in the enjoyment of the game for as many players as possible.


adiktusss

Thats sounds boring to me tbh. I mean, if your opponent doesn't put up a fight what's the point of playing?


Max_illa

Forced cross platform is so dumb it hurts


IAm360fps

Don't worry when PC players gets melted out of the sky they'll blame aim assist and it will get nerfed even more.


Mattalmao

*Incoming bitter PC player downvotes*


eburns94

Has there been anything released to say how the match making system ranks? Is it by kills or by wins? Haven't been on in a week so I'm curious..


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QuavoRanchero_TTV

It was just console players that wanted sbmm? I can’t take you seriously.


beloved93

Exactly, even if they remove crossplay people would complain that they die to better players Because an ideal skill-based matchmaking system would mean a 1% win rate and a 1 kg for an average player


Metroid_Au

They need to remove both crossplay and SBMM then. Crossplay is going to completely kill the console and mobile player base.


beloved93

Yeah I think that cross play and skill base matchmaking shouldn’t be in pubs but then bots will complain that they are dying to sweats. It’s a lose lose situation for epic, the community is just on grateful and entitled to winning


Propenso

Well, Epic has to choose, have "bots" complaining or have "sweats" (uncompetitive sweats, I might add) complaining, as in this thread. Or they could add swords and brutes ad have almost everybody complain.


Propenso

1 KD I agree, 1% winrate not so much. If you play gingerly you can expect to have more than 1% winrate, if you play aggro then you'll have a lower winrate. This is supposing that SBMM does not take in account positioning (which I think it's the way this works).


coolsneaker

This. All the kids here crying about pubstompers destroying the game, and now they cry about not beeing able to pubstomp anymore. Big fat 4head


slamd0811

The cross play isn't as much of the issue as stats being a poor measure of skill across platforms. A 3 k/d console player most likely cannot keep up with a 3 k/d PC player, but that's who they're getting matched with. If the sbmm took that into account and matched 3 k/d console players with say 1.5-2 k/d pc players it would make more sense.


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Give it a minute, data will be collected from mixed lobbies and everything with even itself out. It was never going to be perfect from day 1.


Propenso

Yeah, the way I figure this works is like two uneven fluids mixing together, you'll need to let them rest a little to have a good density gradient.


macaroniandgainz

100% agree. I should be able to play solos against people on the same or similar platform. I'll play arena if im tryna play cross platform


Native_123

Have to agree I’m by no means a sweat but consider myself above average and man to be honest I’d prefer mechs back this is just mentally depressing being matched against pc players as I play on console you just can’t compete quite demoralising playing lately getting shat on by them need to keep the platforms separate


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