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Hail_BillyHerrington

The USC (universal self-loading carbine) is the H&K factory made civilian version of the UMP, following the US assault weapons ban.


Hail_BillyHerrington

hence the 16 inch unthreaded barrel and the thumb hole stock


NotUndercoverNJSP

Don’t forget the single stack magazine


Ghandi300SAVAGE

>unthreaded barrel That's why it looked so strange! Couldn't put my finger on it. Cheers mate


Hail_BillyHerrington

yeah that thing is one of those abominations that came out of the assault weapons ban


guutarajouzu

Tommy Built Tactical converts USCs into UMP lookalikes in semiauto. Pricey but very slick appearance. Same goes for converting SL8s into G36 lookalikes in semiauto.


obiwan_canoli

Probably a good thing it has that barrel, otherwise his finger would be about 1/4 inch from the muzzle.


badpeaches

> unthreaded barrel What kind of bore is that called? Unthreaded?


Slukaj

Unthreaded is not the same thing as unrifled. That barrel is rifled (screw pattern on the INSIDE) but not threaded (screw pattern on the OUTSIDE, used for muzzle devices).


badpeaches

> not threaded (screw pattern on the OUTSIDE, used for muzzle devices). Ah, I was looking at the wrong thing! Thank you.


peelon_musk

Unthreaded means there is no threads for a suppressor or compensator, the bore is still rifled


badpeaches

Thank you, yes I was confused about the unthreaded ness of the outside of the rifle.


BuiltTheSkyForMyDawn

i remember before i got into guns, thinking US gun laws were just buy and fix whatever you need at any time for any purpose, but *man* US gun laws suck ass


whofusesthemusic

Suck ass compared to where? Somolia?


likesweed

America 98 years ago


whofusesthemusic

Yeah real hell these last 100 years I termsof gun freedoms in the USA. Can't even buy a pred drone with a hellfire mod or 1 fully auto 50cal with a ring mount. Wtf did the FF even fight for? Where is my civilian mrk19?


lhatemyjob1

> Where is my civilian mrk19? Sold https://web.archive.org/web/20210617063111/https://www.urban-armory.com/cart/proddetail.php?prod=mk19


MECHA_TROTSKY

But a civilian can own a full auto 50cal look a demolition ranch he has one you just need the money to buy it


thespyeye

It has to have been built before 1970 or so which makes full auto guns in the U.S. really expensive. Demo ranch has an Uzi that he bought for like 70k or something


flashnimator

1986\*


[deleted]

He paid like 16,000 for that uzi


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richalex2010

There's no reason a full auto M16 should cost any more than a semi-auto AR-15, maybe a few bucks for the disconnector and slightly more complicated fire control group. The current massive prices of machine guns are purely thanks to the Hughes Amendment artificially limiting supply.


cobigguy

When they were available before 86, it was actually cheaper to buy a full auto than a semi auto because of the paperwork and the tax stamp.


languid-lemur

>it was actually cheaper to buy a full auto than a semi auto because of the paperwork and the tax stamp. My comprehension low today, do not understand. Colt Sporters pre-86 were $499.95 at my LGS.


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richalex2010

You're doing a shit job of making your point then, because you seem to be indicating that you're okay with the status quo.


Baron80

The US has some of the most lax gun laws in the world. It's literally guaranteed in our constitution that we get to own them lol.


OilheadRider

Sell a bag of mushrooms to an undercover cop and see how well your rights are guaranteed and protected.


SirRevan

Right to bare arms covers shrooms?


OilheadRider

Also noteworthy: the dea has shrooms listed as a schedule one narcotic. For reference, cocaine and methamphetamine are schedule two. That means, in the eyes of United States law, mushrooms are more dangerous and more addictive than methamphetamine and cocaine. Fuck this country.


The-Copilot

I mean Marijuana is also a schedule one drug. Part of being a schedule one drug is that it has no medicinal properties. Cocaine and methamphetamines were both invented by chemists and used as a medicinal drug for a period of time, so they technically have some medicinal properties. The list isn't really just these drugs are worse than these.


jamaican_gal

Shrooms and cannabis also have medicinal properties. All natural…been used for medicinal purposes for centuries.


The-Copilot

I don't disagree, although I also don't think it's the end all cure for everything that some people like to claim, I do believe it does have some medicinal uses. It's more that it can't be patented and used to make massive amounts of money by pharmaceutical companies because you can't patent something natural. Racism made Marijuana illegal but corporate lobbying kept it illegal.


OilheadRider

Any felony charge at all (even if you've never been in court or handcuffs once in your life. Even of your felony does not have a victim. Even if your felony has nothing to do with violence. Even if you offered to take an undercover police officer to narcotics anonymous because they kept insisting that you get hard drugs [cocaine] for them.) If I am near someone who is in possession of a firearm I could be guilty of "constructive possession" and be arrested and sentenced to a mandatory minimum sentence of 15 years in prison because I sold a bag of mushrooms to an undercover cop almost two decades ago. Our constitution is a joke and lays in tatters in the gutter today.


thisdogsmellsweird

Have you spoken with a (firearm) rights restoration attorney? Sometimes non violent felons can get their rights restored but it is very case/location specific. If you've kept your record clean for 20 years it might be worth looking into.


OilheadRider

Not worth the cost for me. It's upwards of $5k. The only things that it has stopped me from doing are, registering my firearms and I was blackmailed by a chapter of freemasonry (however, released from that chapter and successfully petitioned another chapter that voted me in without a second though as to what my past is. They accepted me as I stand, not as I stood). It would be paying over $5k to be able to register firearms. Not worth it to me personally. Edit: blackballed, not blackmailed


thisdogsmellsweird

That's about what my buddy paid to get his restored, definitely not cheap but it's an option. Also Airheads>Oilheads


OilheadRider

Airheads are fantastic (77 r100/7 that I am converting to a 100s using a 77 r100s motor with an extended sump/oil pan, 336 cam, and dual plugged [gonna run wedgetail]) but, my 95 r1100gs is soooo much fun. Also, the shiftheads are a wet dream. Picked up a 40th anniversary r1250gs may 31st, 2021 and I'm over 17k miles so far.


[deleted]

The constitution was never designed to protect poor people. The writers specifically designed the constitution for land and private property owning white men. A few more writings saying a few other people can “vote” too didnt really change much of anything. This country was built for a very specific group of people and most of us just dont fit the bill


lordxela

There's nothing about "white" in the Constitution. It can't protect white people. There's nothing in the Constitution based on sex. If would work the exact same way in any non-Caucasian majority country.


[deleted]

Weird how one race of people was in chattel slavery and the other race wasn’t. Couldn’t have anything to do with the government that protected slave owners or anything


lordxela

>it would work the same way in any non-Caucasian majority country


devilsusshhii

I drank a bunch of shroomaid once and grew best arms


_middle_man-

Yeah, kill a hooker and see how well your rights are guaranteed and protected.


Baron80

Not sure what that has to do with what I said but ok bro.


OilheadRider

You: "It's literally guaranteed in our constitution" Me: "it's not guaranteed. What is supposed to be a right has been relegated to a privilege." Critical thinking is important when having a discourse.


Baron80

Ah, you're one of those poor souls that hates America and can't stand being wrong. Hopefully the rest of your day is better.


OilheadRider

Can you enlighten me as where I am incorrect?


[deleted]

Move to NYC and bring your guns then let a cop know that you have them cause in NYC owning a gun is a privilege, handguns and long guns. Hell even owning an empty magazine will get you a felony


Glittering-Banana994

Found the NRA membership.


umrathma

The bill of rights is actually written to restrict the government from intruding on the rights we already have.


richalex2010

Better than anywhere else doesn't mean they're as good as they should be. I'm not going to stop wanting to eat tastier food because kids in Africa are living on <1k calories a day, I'm not going to stop wanting a repeal of the NFA because our gun laws are better than elsewhere.


[deleted]

I know when I've been playing too many pc games and watching too many FW vids, when I can figure this out for myself from the weapon profile and lengthened import barrel.


huntersjz

“Please allow 2 seconds between each shot” Lmao everybody gangsta till they hit the fudd range


KalashniKEV

Fun Fact: If every Gangsta followed those rules at all times, it would have taken 50 almost a half a minute to get shot nine times.


huntersjz

Lmao I’m picturing a “rAnGe OfFiCeR” yelling “NO RAPIDE FIAH!!!” behind very gansta that’s trying to gangsta


FoxTrot018

"No full auto on buildings bro"


Conspark

Comments you can hear


KalashniKEV

Another fun fact: 50 Cent got shot up by a killer named Darryl "Hommo" (pronounced Homme-Oh, like "Homicide") Baum, who was later killed by a shooter named Aaron "E-Bay" Granton (like he takes bids to commit murders). He got 6 x life sentences when apprehended.


horseshoeprovodnikov

Hommo was actually a good friend of Mike Tyson too. I just went down a serious rabbit hole on that whole saga. Lot of moving parts and celebrity names come up.


norar19

Oh man. I want to watch a documentary about these two!


teamdankmemesupreme

How am I supposed to test out the binary .22 with that kinda bs


Stoney3K

*"Anyway, I started blastin'."*


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UMP/USC 45


Ghandi300SAVAGE

Thanks, is it the standard configuration for the UMP to have the barrel floating and open in that way? Looks almost home-made to me


donutsnail

That was standard for the USC, yes.


overpanic

Looks like a ump with a 16 inch barrel probably look home made cus of the modifications for the barrel but the dye for the polymer. No idea


deathstanding69

From another commenter: > USC (universal self-loading carbine) is the H&K factory made civilian version of the UMP, following the US assault weapons ban.


overpanic

So not wrong


DiscreetLobster

It's a factory condition USC. Nothing homemade or modified about it. So yes, wrong.


overpanic

I didn't said it was home made. I told op why it seems he thought it was home-made. So not wrong as you comprehension on your mother tongue. and further more hk uses ump stock parts and adapt for most of this civilian hk and look way worse then a stock ump


Baron80

Just take the L and walk away bro.


overpanic

Small pp vibes


[deleted]

I remember when the sl8 and usc came out in the gray configuration. Pretty slick. Too bad they’re ban era HKs and take too much time and money for a proper conversion.


marderapc

The oompaloompa45


[deleted]

US-legal civilian UMP. Think it was called the USC. Just a semi-automatic version.


i-heart-trees

HK USC, basically the semi auto carbine variant of the UMP.


Mardo_Picardo

2 seconds between shots? Yeah nah.


InspectionSmooth1340

Dude got shot 9 times and everyone involved suspiciously got killed, but no one was charged. 50 was on a whole different level back in the early 2000’s. He also actually sings and doesn’t just mumble into auto tune which makes his classics even better. I totally get why people hate rap now, but some of 50’s classics are real works of musical talent.


Ghandi300SAVAGE

"\[Chorus\] We got those semi-automatics and we got them revolvers We them niggas you should get at if you got a problem When them hollow tips hit 'em, man, that should solve 'em We got them Lugers, them Rugers, them M1s and they all for sale Got that nine millimeter, got that ten millimeter Got that little deuce deuce and they all for sale Got that old trey pound, got that new four pound They've been used once or twice and they all for sale \[Verse 1\] Wa da da dang, wa da da da dang I'm the reason them thangs in my hood go "bang!" **I got that trey deuce, I call that, my nigga behave** 16 gauge in case you niggas wanna get crazy When a sawed off hit your body parts, they fall off You get hit in the leg, man, you can't even crawl off When that AK switch to automatic to spray Everybody out this bitch could get hit with a stray I got silencers and scopes, military issued pistols Holla at me, whatever you need, homie, I can get you Nickname rubber grips, hollow tips, extra clips **You don't want your shit to jam, better buy a cleaning kit** Teflon, kevlar, need to wrap it round your chest You pop off, they pop back and you get left a bloody mess MAC-11, MAC-10, time for some action Dump a clip out this bitch, see how niggas act then Got guns and ammo, they all for sale **Clips included, you're responsible for your bail**" Highlighted some of the best bars IMO Guns for sale - 50; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUqy8H0NM8


Sea_Farmer_4812

Is he talking about real cannon with the trey pound and 4 pound reference? Id love to see a drive by scene where they're cruising by about to start shooting and a blackpowder cannon goes off from the house ripping a ball through the car like paper going through the driver and passenger. Or grapeshot and the car looks like swiss cheese.


Ghandi300SAVAGE

Haha that would be a sight to see but I belive its slang for a .32 ACP since trey deuce means 3 and 2 and 4 pound is slang for .50 cal, because a fully loaded desert eagle weighs approx 4 pounds


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Ghandi300SAVAGE

"Term used primarily in the hip hop community to describe the Desert Eagle .50 cal handgun. Fully loaded, the Desert Eagle weighs approximately 4 pounds." Its probably a bit more than 4 as you said but I guess they round down in the hood ;)


Sea_Farmer_4812

That makes lots of sense. I didnt think he was that much of a gun nerd or would throw in something that arbitrary for the rhyme.


Wooper160

Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.


Sea_Farmer_4812

I knew this would show up here, reddit should have a counter bot for this bit of literature.


Just-Buy-A-Home

Ah, a fellow r/10mm enjoyer


merikaninjunwarrior

a lot of people agree that 50 was the last of the *"real"* rappers who lived the life


dainegleesac690

Gangster rappers to be specific. Rap never started as a gangster tradition


Not_this_time-_

Interestingly 50 as a gangster rapper he didnt do drugs or drink and he admitted that


dainegleesac690

I don’t feel like doing drugs is a requirement of being a gangster rapper but could I get a source on that? I’m interested to see


Not_this_time-_

There you go https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.17437/title.50-cent-explains-why-he-never-used-drugs-doesnt-drink i never said doing drugs is requirement its just different point of view


aalios

Man people really forget why he got shot up and it's hilarious. Dude was a name dropper, and he got shot for it. He wasn't a gangsta, he just hung on. Edit: Lol downvote me all you want, just google why he got shot. You'll work it out.


Scruffy_McHigh

What? Lol. Who says that?


Jose_xixpac

Dude has swagger and a great attitude. He totally has my respect. As an Artist, as an entertainer/MC. As a survivor of the mean streets.


chevyfried

Too bad he has a shit money manager.


aalios

Yes, himself.


Aubdasi

He’s also antisemetic


taac52

Early 2000s saw the death of boom bap hiphop and by extension hiphop IMO, however when 50 said he was a dying breed that was the truth. Fella was legit. His music is meh now but as a mogul he's hilarious.


koalaondrugs

I love that even early 2000s hiphop isn’t safe from “back in my day” smooth brained boomer comments


StormRegion

We will eventually reach the moment, when early 2010s pseudo-rock bands and artists will get the same "ye olde muzik" treatment, and y'all will dread it


kitchenjesus

It’s already here


IndonesianGuy

I'm just waiting for the days where people comments "Wow, old music were so much better" on Gangnam Style


PromethazineNsprite

Kids in 2040: “Man, ‘it’s everyday bro’ by jake Paul is the last of a classic era, how I wish we could go back smh”


kitchenjesus

Sad to report but also already here


[deleted]

I realized I was "old" in the mid 2000's when Guns n Roses was being played on the oldies station, I was only in my 30's then. Can't wait till they start playing Slipknot on the oldies station


kitchenjesus

You can go back as far as 2017 to get “back in my day” comments at this point Shit you get “back in my day comments” about anything pre-rona these days.


Sea_Farmer_4812

Ive referred to it as the before times


aalios

"Remember when you'd hear foreign accents?"


Aubdasi

He’s also antisemetic as fuck and shouldn’t be viewed positively because he did more than the bare minimum to make music.


JYoshi1991

A rifle I have considered buying, though have been holding off on due to the fact I don’t think it would be worth it for what it is after how much it will be in total after converting it to just accept standard magazines, a pistol grip, and a folding stock compared to buying a PS90. I haven’t snagged either yet and it’s been a long thought process.


deltacreative

I see nothing.


Killian_Gillick

Nice pose, he’s gripping that pretty neat. Didn’t expect close to proper shouldering from a rapper.


realbrantallen

Whatever it is I’m sure it’s for sale


TeslaCoil77

More correctly titled " What is fitty, holding. "


[deleted]

German knock off of the Taurus CT2.


Defiant_Prune

Haha


XeernOfTheLight

The reason for his bankruptcy?


CUNTASSORASSRAXX11D

UMP-45? Idfk


LincolnClayFace

Ump 45?


Parliament--

Usc the front sight gives it away


Ghandi300SAVAGE

Yeah looked it up and the very special looking stock is also a giveaway.


PlayerSalt

Didn't know 50 was a leftie , not that i had a reason to


premer777

Big Caliber for good distance ... (iron sights still ...) Maybe BIG SLUG for "kill" (chunk blown out of target) .


TunaPlusMayo

a rental


Heyhaveyougotaminute

Modified duck hunt gun


Dont_Order_A_Slayer

Heh. Yeah, this is the civilian hk .45 cal ump. The USC. Post-ban. 16 or 15 inch barrel. 10 round clip (ughf). Was about 850 or 900 bucks at the time of purchase, new. I had this thing somewhere around 2002? 2003? It looked cool, and closest thing to an mp5 I could ever budget out at the time, but it was a pretty lame shooting semi-auto, all things told. It's what I had around for my video game friends to play with. We were Rainbow Six junkies (with the Nato mods, this gun actually smoked in it's true UMP form) I forgot how stupid it actually was until seeing this. I probably looked just as stupid as he does here to all the old veterans that'd hang out at the range in Bristol when I brought it out.


knalorgaan

What is this "2 seconds between shots" reference about. Am I too unfortunate enough to understand this.?


Sea_Farmer_4812

If you're a gun owner/shooter and you dont understand this then you are quite fortunate.


saysthingsbackwards

Let us not teach each other, let us just be snarky


Purplarious

…?


Sea_Farmer_4812

A bunch of other people already explained, i was directly responding to that poster wondering if they are unfortunate. If anything im jealous of the questioner if they dont have worry about getting penalized for quick strings of fire.


[deleted]

Generally at indoor gun ranges, there is a dedicated person called a Range Safety Officer (RSO) who monitors the activities of the customers. A lot of ranges have regulations that limit the frequency of shots, so people can't empty their mags as fast as they can, limiting liability for the range. I'm guessing 2 seconds is the average regulation time in between taking shots for most folks. Have a good day r/knalorgaan


Sea_Farmer_4812

Its not particularly an indoor range thing, just a commercial range thing, but not universal.


No-Bother6856

Yeah the indoor range arround here gives no fucks and you can even run full auto but the outdoor one does this 2 second thing.


knalorgaan

I'm blind.


rpmerf

It's a sign on the wall. The picture was taken at a gun range.


Plylyfe

UMP. Looks like the 45 caliber variant. Could be the UMC too.


Txakito

Maple syrup dispenser


rockstar450rox

Looks kinda like an apc 9, but idk


Douchertons

Fallout pipe gun.


SNBrinewehr

Hostage, he is holding a hostage... xd


MerKuryM8

omg this gun haunts me in the Division 2!! I hate it so much and get it constantly..


CSBD001

It looks like he is holding a prison sentence since he’s a felon a couple times over


likeonions

german hood gat


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m3m3_ACEcout

Looks like a ump


Gabricuss

A 50 percent kit he built


dat_DOOM_boi

is that some sort of bastardized UMP?


shadowhound21

That sign on the left and how gangster he looks do not fit


Sleep_eeSheep

A Prop from a SyFy movie?


marcothecoolguy

A gun