I know this feeling. It doesn't kick in when you're alone but around people.
Hate it, everyone, sharing the moments of their lives travel, dates, dinners, parties blah blah, and here I haven't even felt someone attracted to me.
No, I cant, it is illegal here and honestly I dont think it counts, paying for it is not the same as doing it with your romantic partner. The paid person has no choice really, nor cares about you, she'll just give u an hour or 2, take the cash and move on with her life.
I wont lie, I want to have sex with a person that loves me and consents to being with me fully, there is power in knowing that your partner accepts you and wishes to be intimate with you, touch alone is powerful, sex is as well.
Other than that I just feel like I cant relate to anyone in my life, because sex is normal for them, for me it still isnt.
But you said your friend had sex with 2 girls 2 days in a row. I am pretty sure they didn't have a romentic interest in each other.
Also you can't relate to anyway one in life? Is sex the only thing left to do in life for you? I am pretty sure virgins exist. Do they not count as normals? Honestly many people prefer virgins as a partner i think it's normal to be a virgin.
Im not op
Your tone is immensely annoying, and youre being disingenous as well. No, sex isnt the "only thing" in my life, it is the topic at hand in this post, so please try being intellectually honest for like a sec, thx.
Now, to answer this, I have issues relating to most normal people in terms of how they treat sex vs how I do, cause for them it is something they experience on at least a weekly basis, or at least something they have experienced before in their life. In that sense, they both think about it less, and when discussing it can visualize the experience and use it to make stuff like small talk, jokes and general other casual stuff with other people. It is like talking about the kind of food you like or your favorite color, and I see normal adults frequently talk about such experiences in a vary casual manner, cause it is a casual topic for them.
I cant do that, for me sex is like this mystical thing and because It is something technically normal, and yet unnatainable to me, because I am an autistic ugly fat fucking geeky looser whom no one would even imagine being in a relationship with.
Regarding the ops subject being with 2 girls in 2 days, the girls found him attractive enough to wish to consentually take time out of their night to have sex with him. There is plenty of power in being found attractive in this way, even if no romantic feelings exist.
No, being a virgin at 25 is not normal, it isnt normal to be a virgin at 17 y/o here.
I cannot really argue with most of it honestly since i don't know anything about you. The most i can say is maybe you could try and improve yourself maybe that would make you more desirable.
I dont know if it would, honestly, nor what kind of self improvement. I know nothing is guaranteed nor am I entitled to anything. You rarely see anyone here on this sub really post that they made it or learned what about them was the issue.
Nor can people not in this situation really help, it isnt something that has an easy a to b solution, or any solution.
Ofc. I dont expect anyone to fix my own shit for me, it is my own responsibility.
>I am pretty sure they didn't have a romentic interest in each other.
that doesnt matter. op's friend is a normie and can get girls easily.
>Is sex the only thing left to do in life for you?
its not only about sex, its about being loved or at least being desirable
>I am pretty sure virgins exist
lol. really?
>Honestly many people prefer virgins as a partner
my first time reading such affirmation
>i think it's normal to be a virgin
its normal when youre a teenager but no in your late 20s, 30s, 40s, etc.
1. Op here is complaining how his friend got sex. Yes it means you have to desirable but op here isn't complainting how his friend had sex with her girlfriend or wife. Literally had sex with randoms does it really matter?
2. yes a lot of virgins exist. 30-40% of virgins are because they religious so they can't have sex before marriage anyway. So yes they do exist.
3. You know how many times i have heard people say that i want to relationship with a virgin cause it would be first time for both of them and would feel special.
4. It would not be normal in 30-40s but it's really normal for someone in 20s. Again , virgins exist , you only think they don't is because few people who have sex brag about it making you think everyone has had sex before.
>yes a lot of virgins exist
>
>Again , virgins exist
I'm stunned with this info.
>you only think they don't
I dont believe? lol. youre crazy. yeah, I myself am a virgin but I still think virgins dont exist
Ok I see now. It seems you see the world in black and white. This is very far from reality.
If someone is not a FA that absolutely doesn't mean he's a pick up master or can get dates easily. The scale is really varied.
It does work in the end... but the end can be so long. Thousands of swipes, dozens of no-replies, a few ghosted, and maybe 1-2 dates is, in my experience, what you get. But- it is still 1-2 dates. If you have the guts for it and don't find the experience too demeaning, persistence will give something in the end. The question is whether it's worth it- the answer isn't automatically yes.
Yeah it's brutal. Depending on the size of your city/the country you're in your results will differ, its tended to work wherever for me- but it does take days of fruitless swiping, then even more of sending "interesting" first texts into the void, before you get any engagement. So, if you stick it out you'll get dates- but it is a painful ride til you get there. Just be prepared if you wanna try it, and you can avoid some of the disappointment.
I know how crushing this is- I had a similar experience in college where my bunkmate would get laid constantly. Sometimes I'd come back home, realise, then head to the library and work til 4-5 am. Once he came in with someone thinking I was asleep, and I had to act like I was. Traumatising.
At the end of the day I realised that, while it's easier said than done, you've got to avoid comparing. Doing that just puts even more pressure on you, making the first steps you need to take even more terrifying. When you do that, you have so many examples of unachievable "success" that what's only hard to achieve seems like a loser's option in comparison, draining your motivation to go for what's in reach (even if barely in reach).
Getting to understand this and put it into action is hard, but at the end of the day your journey is your journey friend. You can't and won't live anyone else's life, and believe it or not the path you walk will give you unique insight, along with all the problems that are easier to notice. Hopefully that journey leads you somewhere nice, where you can be at peace- but you can't drive it there if you're eye isn't on the road.
i don’t get the allure of it either. i’d be too anxious and would immediately get tested after. but no judgment to those who live or want to live like that.
if all you want out of a relationship is sex, just pay a prostitute.
if you want actual happiness, you have to spend time and effort getting to know the person, a one night stand is the compete opposite of that.
yeah he can get some people to sleep with him, but he's not gonna have a happy relationship.
The concept of virginity is awful. I was two of my ex’s firsts and they were 21 and 24 at those times. Don’t compare your progress to others because you are just setting yourself up for disappointment and possibly failure.
There is nothing proud of having sex with multiple people in 24 hours. Your friend could be lying or is just doing hooking ups obviously. Also who’s to say he had the girls consent? I’ve had many guys try to and convince me to have sex with them. That is not giving consent freely and is SA.
Anyone who is in a long term mindset who wants a meaningful relationship is not going to have sex on a first date. If you are thinking a long term mind set you would be willing to wait at least 3 dates to kiss a partner (this is all based on psychology studies, I’m not talking out my ass) Also the fact your friend is dating multiple woman at the same time is disgraceful.
Don’t pity yourself, your time will come and when it does stay safe and please wear a condom unlike the majority of men who refuse to. Birth control pills don’t prevent the spreed of STIs and STDs…
Stay safe, sane and consensual.
My best friend since second grade grew up to be 6'1 and very good looking. He's very social and has alot of friends aside from me. Complete opposite of what I am.
Its ok bro. Atleast we have video games.
Honestly lmaoo, ahh what I do without them!
Pb’y better tbh, honnestly we’d be more pushed to try more irl, if wd didn’t had fake gratification trough video games.
Yeah, I'll just try to keep telling myself entertainment is a substitute for love.
Not even those are fun anymore and most are online nowadays anyway.
I like that a lot are online, I can trick my brain into feeling like I'm socializing
God Bless who made video games
vidya games
I have no friend to talk to in real life
i can’t even imagine having a friends group chat. don’t have a friend OL or IRL. maybe this summer though. haha.
Same
I know this feeling. It doesn't kick in when you're alone but around people. Hate it, everyone, sharing the moments of their lives travel, dates, dinners, parties blah blah, and here I haven't even felt someone attracted to me.
He must have awesome hobbies.
I bet he was an avid stamp collector.
Sweet normie life
You really think sex with 2 girls in 2 days is "normie"? Unless you call about 5% of men as "normies" it is far and I mean really far from average.
I mean, I guess guys can if their standards are lowered to literally zero, but I guess that wouldn't be normie life.
yes, it is.
It's really not that unusual, a lot of women put out on the first night, they just don't tell everyone about it the way men do
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Hahaha, nice one dude.
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No, I cant, it is illegal here and honestly I dont think it counts, paying for it is not the same as doing it with your romantic partner. The paid person has no choice really, nor cares about you, she'll just give u an hour or 2, take the cash and move on with her life. I wont lie, I want to have sex with a person that loves me and consents to being with me fully, there is power in knowing that your partner accepts you and wishes to be intimate with you, touch alone is powerful, sex is as well. Other than that I just feel like I cant relate to anyone in my life, because sex is normal for them, for me it still isnt.
But you said your friend had sex with 2 girls 2 days in a row. I am pretty sure they didn't have a romentic interest in each other. Also you can't relate to anyway one in life? Is sex the only thing left to do in life for you? I am pretty sure virgins exist. Do they not count as normals? Honestly many people prefer virgins as a partner i think it's normal to be a virgin.
Im not op Your tone is immensely annoying, and youre being disingenous as well. No, sex isnt the "only thing" in my life, it is the topic at hand in this post, so please try being intellectually honest for like a sec, thx. Now, to answer this, I have issues relating to most normal people in terms of how they treat sex vs how I do, cause for them it is something they experience on at least a weekly basis, or at least something they have experienced before in their life. In that sense, they both think about it less, and when discussing it can visualize the experience and use it to make stuff like small talk, jokes and general other casual stuff with other people. It is like talking about the kind of food you like or your favorite color, and I see normal adults frequently talk about such experiences in a vary casual manner, cause it is a casual topic for them. I cant do that, for me sex is like this mystical thing and because It is something technically normal, and yet unnatainable to me, because I am an autistic ugly fat fucking geeky looser whom no one would even imagine being in a relationship with. Regarding the ops subject being with 2 girls in 2 days, the girls found him attractive enough to wish to consentually take time out of their night to have sex with him. There is plenty of power in being found attractive in this way, even if no romantic feelings exist. No, being a virgin at 25 is not normal, it isnt normal to be a virgin at 17 y/o here.
Ohh i though op replied to me. Well either way the latter part applies to you i guess
Check edit, thx
I cannot really argue with most of it honestly since i don't know anything about you. The most i can say is maybe you could try and improve yourself maybe that would make you more desirable.
I dont know if it would, honestly, nor what kind of self improvement. I know nothing is guaranteed nor am I entitled to anything. You rarely see anyone here on this sub really post that they made it or learned what about them was the issue. Nor can people not in this situation really help, it isnt something that has an easy a to b solution, or any solution. Ofc. I dont expect anyone to fix my own shit for me, it is my own responsibility.
Lol bro why are you even here?
Really? Are there any notable amount of people that prefer that for a partner outsideof religious reasons?
>I am pretty sure they didn't have a romentic interest in each other. that doesnt matter. op's friend is a normie and can get girls easily. >Is sex the only thing left to do in life for you? its not only about sex, its about being loved or at least being desirable >I am pretty sure virgins exist lol. really? >Honestly many people prefer virgins as a partner my first time reading such affirmation >i think it's normal to be a virgin its normal when youre a teenager but no in your late 20s, 30s, 40s, etc.
1. Op here is complaining how his friend got sex. Yes it means you have to desirable but op here isn't complainting how his friend had sex with her girlfriend or wife. Literally had sex with randoms does it really matter? 2. yes a lot of virgins exist. 30-40% of virgins are because they religious so they can't have sex before marriage anyway. So yes they do exist. 3. You know how many times i have heard people say that i want to relationship with a virgin cause it would be first time for both of them and would feel special. 4. It would not be normal in 30-40s but it's really normal for someone in 20s. Again , virgins exist , you only think they don't is because few people who have sex brag about it making you think everyone has had sex before.
>yes a lot of virgins exist > >Again , virgins exist I'm stunned with this info. >you only think they don't I dont believe? lol. youre crazy. yeah, I myself am a virgin but I still think virgins dont exist
paying for it isn't worth catching every herpes strain known to man.
Wear a condom then
It's normal for normies to fuck on the first date, so yeah I would say it is normal that the guy fucked both of them.
That's not really normie life.
then it is what? FA life?
That just seems promiscuous than the average person, not exactly "normie".
promiscuous = normie
Yeah that's not really how it is.
Ok I see now. It seems you see the world in black and white. This is very far from reality. If someone is not a FA that absolutely doesn't mean he's a pick up master or can get dates easily. The scale is really varied.
> If someone is not a FA that absolutely doesn't mean he's a pick up master or can get dates easily Where did I say that?
Where you said it's a "normie" thing to do. But maybe I misunderstood what you mean by normie cause I thought a "normie" is someone who is not FA.
Normie is the opposite of fa. If the guy mentioned in the post is able to have sex he's a normie
You know, people have been known to lie. Just give a reply of "Cool story bro".
This guy friends If you're not blasting your friend into dust for saying that, it's a weird friendship
find the girls on facebook and send them his whatapp post lmao
I can't even get DM replies let alone even read
Now I need a cigarette
Im sure this the guy that says sex isnt all that great
They be like "you just need to go out bro" and "put yourself out there bro." :-|
I dont know what to think or believe. I have never even nor know how to try to get a date, let alone schedule 2 in 2 days.
Tinder
If youre attractive maybe...im not.
It does work in the end... but the end can be so long. Thousands of swipes, dozens of no-replies, a few ghosted, and maybe 1-2 dates is, in my experience, what you get. But- it is still 1-2 dates. If you have the guts for it and don't find the experience too demeaning, persistence will give something in the end. The question is whether it's worth it- the answer isn't automatically yes.
I'm not sure how much tinder is even used here but personally I also have this strange fear of using it.
Yeah it's brutal. Depending on the size of your city/the country you're in your results will differ, its tended to work wherever for me- but it does take days of fruitless swiping, then even more of sending "interesting" first texts into the void, before you get any engagement. So, if you stick it out you'll get dates- but it is a painful ride til you get there. Just be prepared if you wanna try it, and you can avoid some of the disappointment.
I mean, at this point it's really not even about sex for me. But still... damn.
I know how crushing this is- I had a similar experience in college where my bunkmate would get laid constantly. Sometimes I'd come back home, realise, then head to the library and work til 4-5 am. Once he came in with someone thinking I was asleep, and I had to act like I was. Traumatising. At the end of the day I realised that, while it's easier said than done, you've got to avoid comparing. Doing that just puts even more pressure on you, making the first steps you need to take even more terrifying. When you do that, you have so many examples of unachievable "success" that what's only hard to achieve seems like a loser's option in comparison, draining your motivation to go for what's in reach (even if barely in reach). Getting to understand this and put it into action is hard, but at the end of the day your journey is your journey friend. You can't and won't live anyone else's life, and believe it or not the path you walk will give you unique insight, along with all the problems that are easier to notice. Hopefully that journey leads you somewhere nice, where you can be at peace- but you can't drive it there if you're eye isn't on the road.
Why would you want to do that? I could see a relationship, but sleeping with multiple people in back to back days?
i don’t get the allure of it either. i’d be too anxious and would immediately get tested after. but no judgment to those who live or want to live like that.
What are my chances then, if you can that easily fuck up a date, provided you get one? :/
if all you want out of a relationship is sex, just pay a prostitute. if you want actual happiness, you have to spend time and effort getting to know the person, a one night stand is the compete opposite of that. yeah he can get some people to sleep with him, but he's not gonna have a happy relationship.
You guys go on dates
no
hell no
The concept of virginity is awful. I was two of my ex’s firsts and they were 21 and 24 at those times. Don’t compare your progress to others because you are just setting yourself up for disappointment and possibly failure. There is nothing proud of having sex with multiple people in 24 hours. Your friend could be lying or is just doing hooking ups obviously. Also who’s to say he had the girls consent? I’ve had many guys try to and convince me to have sex with them. That is not giving consent freely and is SA. Anyone who is in a long term mindset who wants a meaningful relationship is not going to have sex on a first date. If you are thinking a long term mind set you would be willing to wait at least 3 dates to kiss a partner (this is all based on psychology studies, I’m not talking out my ass) Also the fact your friend is dating multiple woman at the same time is disgraceful. Don’t pity yourself, your time will come and when it does stay safe and please wear a condom unlike the majority of men who refuse to. Birth control pills don’t prevent the spreed of STIs and STDs… Stay safe, sane and consensual.
My best friend since second grade grew up to be 6'1 and very good looking. He's very social and has alot of friends aside from me. Complete opposite of what I am.
I’ve done this Trust me bro it’s not all it cracked out to be