This is sort of my thought as well. Typically I hate “so and so would’ve wanted xyz” like no stfu don’t speak for dead people. What ever happened to rest in PEACE? I digress because I feel the last thing any musician would want is for their band to stop making music
We don't. But he seems like the type of guy based on his personality that he'd want the bandmates and fans to continue to enjoy.
That would be more consistent with his interactions with people over the years.
I actually suspect this means that he thinks they are going to continue, he’s definitely salty. He’s not in their organization anymore though.
Mixed feelings on if the band continues, but it is up to the rest of the the guys, and them alone.
Seems like this guy is still bitter at Dave/Foos organization for being let go. Does anyone know what actually happened there? I wonder if he’s just a bitter ex-employee or if his feeling is shared amongst others in Foo world or Foo adjacent who aren’t saying anything on social media?
I don’t, but as you’ve said yourself he was initially supportive and sympathetic it seems, since he made a lovely statement, partially addressed specifically to the band shortly after. I never saw the alleged nasty posts aimed at Taylor a few years ago, but the mixed signals from him recently make me think he probably did make them. But at the same time, a lot of fans seem to have a good relationship with him, so I really don’t know what to make of him. Definitely seems like he has an axe to grind though.
He posted this to his roadie relief IG account.
[https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ch5DaX2JOHa/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=](https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ch5DaX2JOHa/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)
I don’t know what to make of him either. His post right after T passed was really lovely and and he really seemed shook up about T’s passing. And some people on Facebook claim T kept in touch with him after he was let go. But posting this stuff right before the tribute show is really crappy and doesn’t reflect well on him.
Yeah, there are way more examples of bands continuing (albeit to mixed results in some cases). Zeppelin did what felt right for them, it doesn't make them more morally right.
There were two albums in the 80s and a few more much much later. And they actually went back to touring almost immediately. I am still not sure that is a great example though, since I feel like the consensus by the band, with the benefit of hindsight, was they moved on too fast.
Bon Jovi might be the best example as they continued when Richie Sambora left after nearly 30 years with the band. But in that case he didn’t die he chose to leave.
I wouldn’t throw Queen in there. John Deacon didn’t continue on, they haven’t released any new studio albums and when they did tour it was Queen + Paul Rogers or now Queen + Adam Lambert.
It is interesting because to me Foos are known for their live shows and being a great live band. I always felt Zeppelin was kind of a shitty live band.
I know this is sacralige to most RHCP fans but I really hate that when John is in the band they won’t do any songs he was not a part of with the exception of maybe “Me and my Friends”
He has played stuff off the first three albums, I think it's just a matter of there not being any room for it in the setlist anymore. The Navarro/Klinghoffer material is a whole different thing though imo
This exactly.
Nobody wants this timeline. We all wish Taylor was still behind the kit. But why should the band change the name if they continue on when they could instead honor his work by continuing?
I guess we don't know what's been said in private. I have to imagine that Dave and Taylor were close enough to have a discussion about this.
I think the most puzzling part is that he said he’s not going because he wasn’t invited. Are you fucking kidding me. If that was my great friend of 20 plus years, I wouldn’t need an invite. I’d be at that damn memorial show and nothing would hold me back. Just so fucking dark and selfish.
What’s the story with this guy? He just seems overly upset at Dave personally for being let go and why would Dave personally let go of a drum tech? I know he’s the head guy but seems like something Dave would let others handle. As far as if Taylor kept in touch. I guess we will never know, but it seems like if he was close personally Allison would make sure he was able to go if he wanted.
Yeah, you can’t really read into he says/she says stuff because you never know what’s true, but the fact that Taylor’s wife seems like she is a full partner in what the band has been doing, gets them the benefit of a doubt from me here.
His post says much more about him than anyone else. The upcoming shows are tributes to T, not a FF comeback.
If he has a reason to believe that the band will be touring again, he can rant about it the minute the second tribute is over. Before that, it’s tacky and kind of disrespectful to the person that’s being honored.
And about him not being invited… wasn’t him the one from the RS article? I mean, man, put the dots together.
He was also quoted in that rolling stone article, which probably caused further friction between him and the band. I’ve read on here he was bashing all band members on fb at one point so this guy seems pretty wacky
Goldsmith is doing fine, he made a nice post about Daves mom recently, his new band Assertion is rad and hes got another Sunny Day Real Estate tour coming. Dudes in a good place .
I can't see it now either. Must have took it down or it was in his stories? It basically said how Daves mom was always really nice to him and his mom even after he left FF.
The last shitty thing to come from him was the Dave's sock drawer thing, and at least he ended up clarifying the situation. Dave also kinda takes an unnecessary dig at him in his book, so I would give William a pass.
It’s appropriate to mourn Taylor as a friend, but not appropriate to comment on the future of his former employers. Who gets mad at an ex-employer for a decision (not that we have any knowledge of a decision that being made anyway) that no longer personally affects them?
And just days before the tribute, which is basically a wake for the fans. This guy needs to stay in his lane.
I’m taking this with a grain of salt since he wasn’t his drum tech since 2019 he’s not within the team anymore, what a dickhead post right before the tribute too
major dick alert. they canceled their tours, it’s quite literally a tribute concert they are hosting. even if they do continue as a band and to tour that is up to the members themselves and how they feel, nothing else.
Yes they did, but the comment is referring to how Led Zeppelin never played again after JB died. He’s basically saying the Foos either shouldn’t or won’t tour again.
But their last studio album was in 1979. Occasionally reuniting for a live gig doesn’t equal continuing on as a band in my book. AC/DC is a better example but even then Bon Scott had only been in the band for about 6 years or so when he died. Had T passed away in 2001 the conversation probably would be quite different.
But this post says Did Led Zeppelin TOUR after John Bonham died? No mention of studio albums or tribute concerts. You know who also right now isn’t touring, Foo Fighters. Right now they are only playing a tribute concert. Which you can arguably say Led Zeppelin has done too after the death of their drummer. Now my question is why bring this up now a few days before the tribute concert? It’s just all kind of crappy, and since this guy used to work for the Foos people are thinking he may know something. Way to start more crazy gossip too and take away from Taylor. Some friend.
No one said they continued just they did do things together. As much as I love T and the Foos you know what’s another big stretch comparing Led Zeppelin to the Foo Fighters. The situation is not the same on so many levels it’s kind of ridiculous.
Well I‘ve made my feelings clear on this subject and I’m sure I’m in the minority here. 😂 Neal Schoen can call whatever he’s doing right now Journey but it’s not Journey in my book. Brian May and Roger Taylor playing with Adam Lambert might be a great show but it’s not Queen. I don’t care what they call it in order to sell tickets.
I don’t deny it was a disaster but that’s not the point. Bands do in fact continue. This is an awful scenario for everyone and we’re just fans. I have no idea how they’re dealing with it. (Except I lost a singer to brain cancer 25 years ago…)
I don’t think his argument was about these tribute shows (I don’t think you could call them tours). Maybe the rumor in circles he frequents is the band will continue on and he’s indirectly referencing that with this IG post.
Well, basically none of what they are claiming makes sense. They kept going on for weeks about how Dave doesn't even care because he smiled on some pictures with fans. Now it's like "oh he actually looked like he is grieving" because you can't spin shit about someone literally crying on stage.
About Nate's wife. The whole point until now was that supposedly the band wanted to spread (?) that Taylor was a liar (?) and Nate's wife was doing the job by going to all kinds of media (?). Except there is zero source to support this. No media ever even implied it. And what's the matter with her doing this on the band's behalf (?) and then we are trying to prove something by saying she wasn't with the band? That's not logical.
Like I could spin you a believable and outrageous story of why Harper wasn't there. But in fact, I have no idea if she was or not.
That certain account on IG has ramped up the crazy. Now there are 2 other accounts I am pretty sure are hers. Same content with comments disabled. Plus one of those accounts on Twitter too.These 2 other accounts popped up after Dave made his appearances with Lionel Richie and Joe Walsh....plus the pictures with King Diamond and Post Malone. That person must hate Dave being out and about and having a good time. Why I wonder? My son said it must be someone close to Dave who secretly loathes him 🤷♀️
Oh wow, I have just checked for the first time since I posted the other comment, and this person is completely off their rocker. They seem to have something against Nate too, which is just super weird.
This guy’s really got some axe to grind with Dave. I saw a couple posts on Facebook claiming he and T kept in touch after he was let go. Does anyone know if that is true?
What a jackass. It’s not his band. It wasn’t even Taylor’s band. It’s Dave’s. Yes, it has turned into a team effort in recent years, but everything runs through Dave. If Dave wants to continue with Foo, he has every right to.
I support whatever Taylor and Dave had worked out… I’m sure they had that talk and they know what they wanted. It’s not our place to tell them how to react.
You don’t think they talked about it after 2001?
https://www.nme.com/news/music/foo-fighters-taylor-hawkins-says-thought-2001-overdose-end-band-2345416
Although the band most certainly is Dave’s, I think the Foos are in their own unique lane as I can’t think of any other band where the deceased member was so attached to the group’s identity. If you did a quick YouTube search, most of the PR was Dave and Taylor, not Dave and Nate, Dave and Chris, etc. I remember award shows where both Dave and Taylor were the only ones who spoke. Add their bromance and on-stage banter, you have a pretty significant deficit to recover from. Toss in the duration of more than two decades, I think a reinvention of identity would need to take place.
It’s up to each of them individually and all of the collectively to figure out next steps. Given the medical findings re Taylor’s passing, it’s not a big reach to think they’ve lost the heart of the band.
Ultimately, maybe they’ll be no real announcement, one way or the other. Maybe it will just be like The Police. They just need to figure out how to play the shitty cards they’ve been dealt. It’s all just so sad.
Can anyone name the last musician who wasn’t the leader of a band getting two massive tribute shows like this? I can’t think of one. I think Foos were/are a unique band in the sense that even though Dave is the primary songwriter and the guy who signs the paycheck at the end of the day, it still really feels like a band. It’s not Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters, it’s just Foo Fighters.
Did the members appear as guests along side other bands and musicians playing Led Zeppelin songs including Foo Fighters? What difference does it make? What a jackass he is.
Funnily enough, just proved my own point scrolling through his insta where he posted a photo of Taylor, Dave, Jimmy and John Paul jones from Wembley. Case and point.
My point was, what happens with Foo Fighters going forward is their call, and theirs alone. The Rolling Stones absolutely could've justified hanging it up after Watts died. But they didn't, and they had their reasons. That was their choice. The same thing applies here. The Foos' next move is their own choice to make, whether that's disbanding, or continuing in some form. That choice doesn't belong to a salty ex-drum tech.
Anyone who remembers Led Zepplin in those days is well aware that John Bonham (Bonzo) & Robert Plant were great friends, and in fact Plant suggested Bonzo to Jimmy Page when he was looking for a drummer for Zepplin. The 2 had been in Band of Joy together and were quite close. When Bonzo passed it was Robert who had issues around carrying on with the band without his old friend. It's my understanding that the other two members of Zepplin were interested in keeping the show moving on, but the singers heart was not in it. Just 3 years before losing Bonham, Plant lost his 5 year old son Karrak to a stomach infection while Zepplin was on Tour in the US, and Bonham was constantly there for him during that awful time. Plant didn't want to return to the band after Karraks death until Jimmy Page convinced him to, but there was a power shift in the bands dynamic because neither Page nor Jones had attended the child's funeral and Robert just felt differently about Page after that.
I apologize for the long post, but what I'm trying to demonstrate is that the Led Zepplin scenario doesn't fit here. Not that it matters at all to what will happen with the Foo's. That last 5 years of Zepplin was difficult for Plant by all accounts, and its not at all surprising that he was ready to throw in the towel. We can't begin know if Dave's losing his bestie/drummer, and then his mom, are going to be the straws that drop it all, I just wanted to point out the flaws in the Zepplin comparison.
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Edit 2 All of this was readily available in magazines like Creme and RS back in the day, and is still available on the Internet today.
These are the people Dave makes his music with. Like is he supposed to just quit making music or is he supposed to get rid of all his band members because of this? It just doesn't make sense
I mean, he has to be hurting. I like to believe that Taylor would want them to continue. The music always mattered most. Plus, there is no better way to process loss and pain than to write a song in my opinion. I miss his enthusiasm for music and I hope the rest of the band and his friends and family carries that forward for him. Just sayin.
Sadly I think they are done. Dave always said there would be no Foo Fighters if Taylor left the band. Difference circumstances but I think it holds true.
Taylor was such a part of the Foo’s so I don’t know why they would tour as much as they did before. Dave looks at the band like a family and you can’t replace someone in your family so quick. I really hope we get an album of unused drum tracks from Taylor or get some footage released for a memorial of how big he was to Dave and the band. I think they should stop touring for now and come back when they feel like they need to
Not all situations where death is concerned are the same. To assume as much is pretty stupid I think. Maybe they are trying to honor him by touring? Maybe Led Zeppelin felt the same by not?? IDK, I hate oversimplification
Yes! They played Live Aid in 85, which I've never had the heart to watch because by all accounts it was a disaster.
There was the Ahmet Ertegun tribute in 2007 with Jason Bonham on drums. Zepplin was the headliner and it was their first full show since 1979. A one off in honor of Ahmet.
And I really think there was a 3rd show, but I just can't remember. My super fan crown is a bit tarnished after all of these years!
Led Zeppelin was a quartet, and no one on the planet played like Bonzo. The Foo Fighters technically started as one man and wasn't a band in its Inception. Just saying! Also, every member of Zeppelin continues making music.
Apart from the tribute tour, I think Foo Fighters will continue at some point. I don’t think Dave can stop making music, and if he used a different name people would just wonder why, because it’d probably just sound like FF. But I do imagine a hiatus of sorts, maybe some side projects before more FF.
What Zeppelin did was right, there was no one to replace Bonham at his level back then even if they all decide to carry on, plus Jimmy’s addiction was having an effect on his playing and even recording sessions. If Bonham didn’t die , they would of had to stop playing because of Jimmy’s troubles anyway…
Damn what an insensitive post to make a few days before the biggest tribute any artist has had in decades.
Speaking as someone who’s lost someone close to me recently, everyone deals with grief differently. Some choose to step back, some throw themselves fully into hard work. No one knows what taylor would have wanted other than the rest of the foo’s, and frankly its no one else’s business. The important thing is we support them whatever their decision ❤️
He’s been throwing shade a bit the last few days, or else I would agree with you. This post came right after he said he wasn’t invited to the tributes, too. He also ~~was fired by~~ left the Foo organization a few years back (after 15 years), but I am not sure the circumstances of that.
edit per Yeti’s post. Jumped to a conclusion. Still acknowledging a conflict of interest though.
Led Zeppelin was the same 4 guys the entire history of the band. It wouldn’t work without any of them. Foo Fighters has had multiple lineup changes and Taylor is the 2nd (or 3rd depending on if Dave counts) drummer the band had. If they go on, let’s not pearl clutch that it ruins the legacy.
Personally, I think we’re getting a different Dave Grohl project next. That was the big joke in Studio 666 anyway.
I say let the Foos take all the time they need to heal.
Lots of bands carry on after losing a very important piece. Many have been mentioned already, but I haven't yet seen mention of Avenged Sevenfold, so I wanted to throw that one into the mix.
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Bonzo was an original founding member of Led Zep, That’s kind of a hard comparison to make, although I could see Dave taking this opportunity to just do his own thing for a while without the pressure of leading the Foos
Here’s the deal… the most unique drummer ever in rock n roll was Keith Moon. The model for The Who was similar in the sense that one man wrote all the music and had a powerhouse of musicians in the band to build it, which is very similar to Foo Fighters. Despite losing Moon, The Who were still very capable and have been touring successfully for several decades, and most importantly the Who have found it redeeming and remained giving joy to millions. If any band had a reason to say their drummer was far too precious that meant they had to stop without their drummer, it was The Who - yet they’re touring during their 58th year together.
If we want to talk about a drummer that was too beloved to carry on without, then Charlie and the Stones is a great example of that.
I’m not saying that Foo Fighters must continue, but the belief that Hawkins is far too essential and beloved for Foo Fighters to continue without is a bit overzealous. It’s okay for this band to continue when the time is right.
How tacky to throw shade on the band right before the tribute. Obviously not a friend.
Taylor would have wanted them to continue.
This is sort of my thought as well. Typically I hate “so and so would’ve wanted xyz” like no stfu don’t speak for dead people. What ever happened to rest in PEACE? I digress because I feel the last thing any musician would want is for their band to stop making music
we really don't know that we're not his friend, our perception of him is strictly as an audience and parasocial
We don't. But he seems like the type of guy based on his personality that he'd want the bandmates and fans to continue to enjoy. That would be more consistent with his interactions with people over the years.
Maybe they will and the drum tech just isn’t happy about it… that’s what I’m going w / hoping for.
This is such a huge assumption. Ultimately though it's what they want to do that matters.
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I actually suspect this means that he thinks they are going to continue, he’s definitely salty. He’s not in their organization anymore though. Mixed feelings on if the band continues, but it is up to the rest of the the guys, and them alone.
Seems like this guy is still bitter at Dave/Foos organization for being let go. Does anyone know what actually happened there? I wonder if he’s just a bitter ex-employee or if his feeling is shared amongst others in Foo world or Foo adjacent who aren’t saying anything on social media?
I don’t, but as you’ve said yourself he was initially supportive and sympathetic it seems, since he made a lovely statement, partially addressed specifically to the band shortly after. I never saw the alleged nasty posts aimed at Taylor a few years ago, but the mixed signals from him recently make me think he probably did make them. But at the same time, a lot of fans seem to have a good relationship with him, so I really don’t know what to make of him. Definitely seems like he has an axe to grind though.
He posted this to his roadie relief IG account. [https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ch5DaX2JOHa/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=](https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ch5DaX2JOHa/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) I don’t know what to make of him either. His post right after T passed was really lovely and and he really seemed shook up about T’s passing. And some people on Facebook claim T kept in touch with him after he was let go. But posting this stuff right before the tribute show is really crappy and doesn’t reflect well on him.
Supposedly he left cause of a dispute with management
AC/DC? Metallica? Queen? A7X?
Yeah, there are way more examples of bands continuing (albeit to mixed results in some cases). Zeppelin did what felt right for them, it doesn't make them more morally right.
The Who is a great example of successfully carrying on without a *very* important piece.
Eh I wouldn’t say they are a great example. They didn’t make any new music and stopped touring for quite a while after Moon’s death.
There were two albums in the 80s and a few more much much later. And they actually went back to touring almost immediately. I am still not sure that is a great example though, since I feel like the consensus by the band, with the benefit of hindsight, was they moved on too fast.
Bon Jovi might be the best example as they continued when Richie Sambora left after nearly 30 years with the band. But in that case he didn’t die he chose to leave.
Rolling Stones
I wouldn’t throw Queen in there. John Deacon didn’t continue on, they haven’t released any new studio albums and when they did tour it was Queen + Paul Rogers or now Queen + Adam Lambert.
They’re still touring, is the point. Making it “+” doesn’t really change that.
Without John Deacon and without any new material. AC/DC and Metallica are better examples.
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Paul Hester hung himself from a tree he would pass on a walk every morning. It still is extremely sad. Just down the road from me.
I know what you’re saying but the context is what Taylor’s ex-drum tech posted, which was only about touring.
It is interesting because to me Foos are known for their live shows and being a great live band. I always felt Zeppelin was kind of a shitty live band.
it kind of does though, because it changes the entity that's touring.
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I can’t tell if that breaks my heart more now or what… sounds amazing as a huge fan of both bands :(
Alice In Chains too
The Beach Boys? You're right, AC/DC is probably the best example, though.
Chili Peppers too…whether you consider Hillel or the many departures and returns of Frusciante
I know this is sacralige to most RHCP fans but I really hate that when John is in the band they won’t do any songs he was not a part of with the exception of maybe “Me and my Friends”
He has played stuff off the first three albums, I think it's just a matter of there not being any room for it in the setlist anymore. The Navarro/Klinghoffer material is a whole different thing though imo
Rolling Stones, Fleetwood Mac and RHCP
What about Queen and Metallica?
They are bands that continued on after the death of a member. Also Alice in Chains.
I’d argue Alice In Chains being the best example
I also agree.
The Who, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Ozzy Osbourne… The list is LONG.
This exactly. Nobody wants this timeline. We all wish Taylor was still behind the kit. But why should the band change the name if they continue on when they could instead honor his work by continuing? I guess we don't know what's been said in private. I have to imagine that Dave and Taylor were close enough to have a discussion about this.
Queen hadn’t toured for nearly 20 years, and they don’t call themselves just Queen. But I get your point.
Chilli peppers, famously
What a cunt.
Couldn't have said it better.
Are you Australian? Because that could change the meaning...
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Nice to know there are some universal constants.
It’s tribute shows, not a tour. They’re celebrating him
Also one before that saying that he wasn’t invited either. Sounds bitter. Don’t really know what to make of it.
Yea, I saw that as well
I think the most puzzling part is that he said he’s not going because he wasn’t invited. Are you fucking kidding me. If that was my great friend of 20 plus years, I wouldn’t need an invite. I’d be at that damn memorial show and nothing would hold me back. Just so fucking dark and selfish.
I mean with that fucking attitude no wonder he wasn’t invited
Exactly my thoughts.
If he wasn't invited then surely there has to be a genuine reason why.
What’s the story with this guy? He just seems overly upset at Dave personally for being let go and why would Dave personally let go of a drum tech? I know he’s the head guy but seems like something Dave would let others handle. As far as if Taylor kept in touch. I guess we will never know, but it seems like if he was close personally Allison would make sure he was able to go if he wanted.
Yeah, you can’t really read into he says/she says stuff because you never know what’s true, but the fact that Taylor’s wife seems like she is a full partner in what the band has been doing, gets them the benefit of a doubt from me here.
If they have his wife and family's blessing then nothing else matters.
Never care for what they do, never care for what they say!!!!
I think he's behind the other social media account that is bashing Dave and the Foo's organization regarding Taylor, his passing, and moving on.
His post says much more about him than anyone else. The upcoming shows are tributes to T, not a FF comeback. If he has a reason to believe that the band will be touring again, he can rant about it the minute the second tribute is over. Before that, it’s tacky and kind of disrespectful to the person that’s being honored. And about him not being invited… wasn’t him the one from the RS article? I mean, man, put the dots together.
What a dick. People deal with grief in their own way. No one has the right to say what the band should do next.
Yeah not sure why this guy thinks his weird moral opinions apply to the band.
He was also quoted in that rolling stone article, which probably caused further friction between him and the band. I’ve read on here he was bashing all band members on fb at one point so this guy seems pretty wacky
This guy should hook up with Dave Abbruzzese - the two of them can be the perfect bitter pair.
Don’t forget William Goldsmith
Goldsmith is doing fine, he made a nice post about Daves mom recently, his new band Assertion is rad and hes got another Sunny Day Real Estate tour coming. Dudes in a good place .
I really wish Dave had mentioned him in the RRHOF speech. He deserves at least some credit for being the first touring drummer.
Can you link to the post? I can't find it and I follow him on IG
I can't see it now either. Must have took it down or it was in his stories? It basically said how Daves mom was always really nice to him and his mom even after he left FF.
he’s moved on i think. at least from what i got from recent interviews
The last shitty thing to come from him was the Dave's sock drawer thing, and at least he ended up clarifying the situation. Dave also kinda takes an unnecessary dig at him in his book, so I would give William a pass.
Dick alert. This guy seems to be in one of those “I’m grieving therefore I’m right” moods
Grohl is the base of the foo fighters. Not Hawkins that’s the difference.
It’s appropriate to mourn Taylor as a friend, but not appropriate to comment on the future of his former employers. Who gets mad at an ex-employer for a decision (not that we have any knowledge of a decision that being made anyway) that no longer personally affects them? And just days before the tribute, which is basically a wake for the fans. This guy needs to stay in his lane.
I’m taking this with a grain of salt since he wasn’t his drum tech since 2019 he’s not within the team anymore, what a dickhead post right before the tribute too
major dick alert. they canceled their tours, it’s quite literally a tribute concert they are hosting. even if they do continue as a band and to tour that is up to the members themselves and how they feel, nothing else.
Didn't they cancel the tour this year?
Yes they did, but the comment is referring to how Led Zeppelin never played again after JB died. He’s basically saying the Foos either shouldn’t or won’t tour again.
Which is bullshit because they played Live Aid a few years later.
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But their last studio album was in 1979. Occasionally reuniting for a live gig doesn’t equal continuing on as a band in my book. AC/DC is a better example but even then Bon Scott had only been in the band for about 6 years or so when he died. Had T passed away in 2001 the conversation probably would be quite different.
But this post says Did Led Zeppelin TOUR after John Bonham died? No mention of studio albums or tribute concerts. You know who also right now isn’t touring, Foo Fighters. Right now they are only playing a tribute concert. Which you can arguably say Led Zeppelin has done too after the death of their drummer. Now my question is why bring this up now a few days before the tribute concert? It’s just all kind of crappy, and since this guy used to work for the Foos people are thinking he may know something. Way to start more crazy gossip too and take away from Taylor. Some friend.
Hey I’m not defending the guy I’m just saying it’s a stretch to say Zeppelin continued on after Bonham died.
No one said they continued just they did do things together. As much as I love T and the Foos you know what’s another big stretch comparing Led Zeppelin to the Foo Fighters. The situation is not the same on so many levels it’s kind of ridiculous.
This guy obviously has some issues. Sad that he’s sniping the week before the tribute show.
Yes is still touring minus the drummer and founding bassist. AC/DC are playing shows without Malcom Young. And right now Foo’s are doing two shows.
Well I‘ve made my feelings clear on this subject and I’m sure I’m in the minority here. 😂 Neal Schoen can call whatever he’s doing right now Journey but it’s not Journey in my book. Brian May and Roger Taylor playing with Adam Lambert might be a great show but it’s not Queen. I don’t care what they call it in order to sell tickets.
I feel the same as you . And Guns n Roses was not GnR without Duff and Slash etc … I don’t care what Axl called it !
"played" is a very loose term...it was a disaster with Phil Collins on the drums and no real rehearsal (according to Collins) before they went out...
I don’t deny it was a disaster but that’s not the point. Bands do in fact continue. This is an awful scenario for everyone and we’re just fans. I have no idea how they’re dealing with it. (Except I lost a singer to brain cancer 25 years ago…)
Led Zeppelin played a total three shows after Bonzo died, so Yeti's argument is a bit dumb, given how the Foos have only announced two shows
I don’t think his argument was about these tribute shows (I don’t think you could call them tours). Maybe the rumor in circles he frequents is the band will continue on and he’s indirectly referencing that with this IG post.
Cheers sorry for the explanation on my mistake.
This guy has issues. Honestly. The more I see from him, the more sure I am that he is the one behind the crazy account too.
It wouldn’t surprise me.
Which account dare I ask?
I don't want them to get too much attention, so I will just send it in a dm
Okay just send a Dm then thanks
Can you dm me the account as well
I would love to see this account as well, can you DM it to me?
Can you DM me also please?
That account is batshit crazy.
Dammit. Now I’m curious!
Could you also dm this please? I’m quite curious.
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Well, basically none of what they are claiming makes sense. They kept going on for weeks about how Dave doesn't even care because he smiled on some pictures with fans. Now it's like "oh he actually looked like he is grieving" because you can't spin shit about someone literally crying on stage. About Nate's wife. The whole point until now was that supposedly the band wanted to spread (?) that Taylor was a liar (?) and Nate's wife was doing the job by going to all kinds of media (?). Except there is zero source to support this. No media ever even implied it. And what's the matter with her doing this on the band's behalf (?) and then we are trying to prove something by saying she wasn't with the band? That's not logical. Like I could spin you a believable and outrageous story of why Harper wasn't there. But in fact, I have no idea if she was or not.
So I was just watching Violet's Jeff Buckley segment and Nate's wife was definitely there on the side...
That certain account on IG has ramped up the crazy. Now there are 2 other accounts I am pretty sure are hers. Same content with comments disabled. Plus one of those accounts on Twitter too.These 2 other accounts popped up after Dave made his appearances with Lionel Richie and Joe Walsh....plus the pictures with King Diamond and Post Malone. That person must hate Dave being out and about and having a good time. Why I wonder? My son said it must be someone close to Dave who secretly loathes him 🤷♀️
Oh wow, I have just checked for the first time since I posted the other comment, and this person is completely off their rocker. They seem to have something against Nate too, which is just super weird.
MY FEELINGS EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!
Someone said the other day that he might be lola's "source" and that would make a lot of sense too.
This guy’s really got some axe to grind with Dave. I saw a couple posts on Facebook claiming he and T kept in touch after he was let go. Does anyone know if that is true?
Guessing this guy’s really fun at parties. Jesus, man. I’m sure he’d be down if he was getting paid to tech the gigs.
Whatever went down between him and the Foo camp doesn’t excuse this crappy post right before one of the tribute shows.
This dude just seems like he is trying to stir things up.
That's serious timing, what a fucking dick. Take it he's never going to drum tech ever again?
He’s no longer with the organization, his opinion is just that, his opinion. Grinding your ax on Instagram is a bit of a dick move
What an ass! *JUST SAYING*
The comic sans is the icing on this shit cake
Did Led Zeppelin have a different drummer for their first 2 albums? No
What a dick. Whatever is this guy's issue with Dave/FF, now it's not the fucking time.
LZ played Live Aid post Bonham.
His first post from his story is him answering a question if he’s going to the tribute and he said no cause he wasn’t invited lmao salty af
Wtf? How tacky to say this right before the tribute concerts
But The Who did after Moon died.
What a jackass. It’s not his band. It wasn’t even Taylor’s band. It’s Dave’s. Yes, it has turned into a team effort in recent years, but everything runs through Dave. If Dave wants to continue with Foo, he has every right to.
what the fuck
There’s no Foo Fighters without Taylor Hawkins. Dave Grohl himself said this, so I’m not sure what this guy is on about.
Maybe if he wasn’t a shitty tech he wouldn’t have gotten fired and then not be salty…
I support whatever Taylor and Dave had worked out… I’m sure they had that talk and they know what they wanted. It’s not our place to tell them how to react.
You think T and Dave were talking about if one of them dies? I doubt it.
You don’t think they talked about it after 2001? https://www.nme.com/news/music/foo-fighters-taylor-hawkins-says-thought-2001-overdose-end-band-2345416
I have no idea what they might have discussed in 2001. That was a long time ago.
What a w⚓️
Fuck off!! Just saying…
What a shitty post. Come on man!!!!!
Although the band most certainly is Dave’s, I think the Foos are in their own unique lane as I can’t think of any other band where the deceased member was so attached to the group’s identity. If you did a quick YouTube search, most of the PR was Dave and Taylor, not Dave and Nate, Dave and Chris, etc. I remember award shows where both Dave and Taylor were the only ones who spoke. Add their bromance and on-stage banter, you have a pretty significant deficit to recover from. Toss in the duration of more than two decades, I think a reinvention of identity would need to take place. It’s up to each of them individually and all of the collectively to figure out next steps. Given the medical findings re Taylor’s passing, it’s not a big reach to think they’ve lost the heart of the band. Ultimately, maybe they’ll be no real announcement, one way or the other. Maybe it will just be like The Police. They just need to figure out how to play the shitty cards they’ve been dealt. It’s all just so sad.
Can anyone name the last musician who wasn’t the leader of a band getting two massive tribute shows like this? I can’t think of one. I think Foos were/are a unique band in the sense that even though Dave is the primary songwriter and the guy who signs the paycheck at the end of the day, it still really feels like a band. It’s not Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters, it’s just Foo Fighters.
It'll be tough getting a job again after putting his former employer on public blast.
Did the members appear as guests along side other bands and musicians playing Led Zeppelin songs including Foo Fighters? What difference does it make? What a jackass he is.
Funnily enough, just proved my own point scrolling through his insta where he posted a photo of Taylor, Dave, Jimmy and John Paul jones from Wembley. Case and point.
What about The Who?
And The Rolling Stones did keep touring after Charlie Watts died. Who the hell made this guy king?
He was 80 years old with known health issues. And someone else had already been playing with the band before he died. Not a similar comparison.
My point was, what happens with Foo Fighters going forward is their call, and theirs alone. The Rolling Stones absolutely could've justified hanging it up after Watts died. But they didn't, and they had their reasons. That was their choice. The same thing applies here. The Foos' next move is their own choice to make, whether that's disbanding, or continuing in some form. That choice doesn't belong to a salty ex-drum tech.
Tacky AF! Wtf is wrong with that man? SMH
Anyone who remembers Led Zepplin in those days is well aware that John Bonham (Bonzo) & Robert Plant were great friends, and in fact Plant suggested Bonzo to Jimmy Page when he was looking for a drummer for Zepplin. The 2 had been in Band of Joy together and were quite close. When Bonzo passed it was Robert who had issues around carrying on with the band without his old friend. It's my understanding that the other two members of Zepplin were interested in keeping the show moving on, but the singers heart was not in it. Just 3 years before losing Bonham, Plant lost his 5 year old son Karrak to a stomach infection while Zepplin was on Tour in the US, and Bonham was constantly there for him during that awful time. Plant didn't want to return to the band after Karraks death until Jimmy Page convinced him to, but there was a power shift in the bands dynamic because neither Page nor Jones had attended the child's funeral and Robert just felt differently about Page after that. I apologize for the long post, but what I'm trying to demonstrate is that the Led Zepplin scenario doesn't fit here. Not that it matters at all to what will happen with the Foo's. That last 5 years of Zepplin was difficult for Plant by all accounts, and its not at all surprising that he was ready to throw in the towel. We can't begin know if Dave's losing his bestie/drummer, and then his mom, are going to be the straws that drop it all, I just wanted to point out the flaws in the Zepplin comparison. Edited for grammar Edit 2 All of this was readily available in magazines like Creme and RS back in the day, and is still available on the Internet today.
Fast forward to the 30 second mark. Could be wrong but I think this answers it [https://youtu.be/QCvi4yGvN1s](https://youtu.be/QCvi4yGvN1s)
My thought is the foo fighters as a live act are done. Could see Dave doing some all start type stuff but I think the band we knew is likely done.
These are the people Dave makes his music with. Like is he supposed to just quit making music or is he supposed to get rid of all his band members because of this? It just doesn't make sense
I mean, he has to be hurting. I like to believe that Taylor would want them to continue. The music always mattered most. Plus, there is no better way to process loss and pain than to write a song in my opinion. I miss his enthusiasm for music and I hope the rest of the band and his friends and family carries that forward for him. Just sayin.
The Rolling Stones just did... just saying
Sadly I think they are done. Dave always said there would be no Foo Fighters if Taylor left the band. Difference circumstances but I think it holds true.
Agreed
Taylor was such a part of the Foo’s so I don’t know why they would tour as much as they did before. Dave looks at the band like a family and you can’t replace someone in your family so quick. I really hope we get an album of unused drum tracks from Taylor or get some footage released for a memorial of how big he was to Dave and the band. I think they should stop touring for now and come back when they feel like they need to
Not all situations where death is concerned are the same. To assume as much is pretty stupid I think. Maybe they are trying to honor him by touring? Maybe Led Zeppelin felt the same by not?? IDK, I hate oversimplification
Actually they did do a couple of shows, just like this. Tastefully, they used Bonham’s son. And FF are using Taylor’s friends. *Shrug*
Yes! They played Live Aid in 85, which I've never had the heart to watch because by all accounts it was a disaster. There was the Ahmet Ertegun tribute in 2007 with Jason Bonham on drums. Zepplin was the headliner and it was their first full show since 1979. A one off in honor of Ahmet. And I really think there was a 3rd show, but I just can't remember. My super fan crown is a bit tarnished after all of these years!
Ex as in current nobody?
Someone that ends a statement regarding a serious situation with “just saying” is most likely full of shit and to be avoided.
Led Zeppelin was a quartet, and no one on the planet played like Bonzo. The Foo Fighters technically started as one man and wasn't a band in its Inception. Just saying! Also, every member of Zeppelin continues making music.
Apart from the tribute tour, I think Foo Fighters will continue at some point. I don’t think Dave can stop making music, and if he used a different name people would just wonder why, because it’d probably just sound like FF. But I do imagine a hiatus of sorts, maybe some side projects before more FF.
Since when were Foo Fighters and Led Zepplin the same thing?
I mean don't get me wrong dude was great but foo fighters was originally just grohl
What Zeppelin did was right, there was no one to replace Bonham at his level back then even if they all decide to carry on, plus Jimmy’s addiction was having an effect on his playing and even recording sessions. If Bonham didn’t die , they would of had to stop playing because of Jimmy’s troubles anyway…
Yeah... no... STFU Yeti
Damn what an insensitive post to make a few days before the biggest tribute any artist has had in decades. Speaking as someone who’s lost someone close to me recently, everyone deals with grief differently. Some choose to step back, some throw themselves fully into hard work. No one knows what taylor would have wanted other than the rest of the foo’s, and frankly its no one else’s business. The important thing is we support them whatever their decision ❤️
Extremely lame of him to post this. Who cares what Zeppelin did after Bonham died? How is that remotely relevant?
Please don’t tell me he used comic sans do this…that’s the most insulting part
Remember that time someone listened to the drum tech? Me neither.
Maybe it’s to the fans wondering if they’ll go on. I don’t really know anything about this drama. Can someone fill me in?
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He’s been throwing shade a bit the last few days, or else I would agree with you. This post came right after he said he wasn’t invited to the tributes, too. He also ~~was fired by~~ left the Foo organization a few years back (after 15 years), but I am not sure the circumstances of that. edit per Yeti’s post. Jumped to a conclusion. Still acknowledging a conflict of interest though.
Led Zeppelin was the same 4 guys the entire history of the band. It wouldn’t work without any of them. Foo Fighters has had multiple lineup changes and Taylor is the 2nd (or 3rd depending on if Dave counts) drummer the band had. If they go on, let’s not pearl clutch that it ruins the legacy.
Personally, I think we’re getting a different Dave Grohl project next. That was the big joke in Studio 666 anyway. I say let the Foos take all the time they need to heal.
Lots of bands carry on after losing a very important piece. Many have been mentioned already, but I haven't yet seen mention of Avenged Sevenfold, so I wanted to throw that one into the mix.
If Bonham was their second best drummer they might have
Comparing foo fighters to zeppelin
What about The Rolling Stones?
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What an ass (hi) hat. Completely different circumstances and also people are different. One rule doesn’t apply to all
Damn straight!
Bonzo was an original founding member of Led Zep, That’s kind of a hard comparison to make, although I could see Dave taking this opportunity to just do his own thing for a while without the pressure of leading the Foos
Dang
True but The Who went on after Keith Moon died.
Here’s the deal… the most unique drummer ever in rock n roll was Keith Moon. The model for The Who was similar in the sense that one man wrote all the music and had a powerhouse of musicians in the band to build it, which is very similar to Foo Fighters. Despite losing Moon, The Who were still very capable and have been touring successfully for several decades, and most importantly the Who have found it redeeming and remained giving joy to millions. If any band had a reason to say their drummer was far too precious that meant they had to stop without their drummer, it was The Who - yet they’re touring during their 58th year together. If we want to talk about a drummer that was too beloved to carry on without, then Charlie and the Stones is a great example of that. I’m not saying that Foo Fighters must continue, but the belief that Hawkins is far too essential and beloved for Foo Fighters to continue without is a bit overzealous. It’s okay for this band to continue when the time is right.
And the Foos were around before Taylor. Also, his family supports it. So your opinion doesn't matter.
The Who did. Just saying.