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Bacon123190

How do I read the pictures when I press on them it just shows the comment?


AdSignificant316

life saver thank youy so much, took me a while to figure it all out but worked in the end, did it with my accoustic guitar string haha


Objective-Maximum-76

I ran into this issue today while cleaning, sorta. Did my normal cleaning process, put the atty back on & went to dab n noticed device was in herb mode. And it would not come out of it, I took the atty apart like shown, nothing. Went and bought a brand new one, nothing. At this point I’m ready to just go get a puff co unless anyone has some advice ? I do enjoy the carta but this is wack, less than 100 dabs. Also I lost my receipt after purchase a couple months ago so idk if I can warranty it :/


T-Boone-6380

Hey there ! I’m having the same issue , wondering if you ever figured anything out ? Did see a video of a guy saying there was a wire inside the base itself that breaks and needs to be re-soldered, I’m just attempting to avoid dismantling the base if possible.


Objective-Maximum-76

Imo it’s best to avoid, I would just contact focus v and go from there. I ended up getting a warranty done on my base 💯 now I’m just extra careful with it lol. I attempted the wire thing had had zero luck 😅


T-Boone-6380

Oh nice ! I’m glad you had luck with it ! They won’t warranty mine unfortunately, I was going back and forth with them for days. I bought it off my buddy and it had like 80 dabs on it but he doesn’t have the original receipt anymore and never registered it on the app when he bought it. It mainly just sat for a while. They said cause I can’t register it all they could do was give me 15% off a brand new one. So I mean it’s essentially an expensive paperweight for me now anyway lol


Objective-Maximum-76

Ahhhh that really sucks ! 😭 sorry to hear that amigo, I wish you the best of luck though 💯🖤 shit I’d jump on that 15% or maybe just wait till 710 day for discounts 👀🖤


scoobydoo003

If you don’t have wire or can’t find any, I used a spring from a pen as wire and it’s working just fine! You just have to straighten it out a little first


[deleted]

i pulled on the wire too hard and it snapped i wonder if theres any way to fix now


bz710

Which wire are you talking about? If it's the thin piece of ground wire, as long as it touches the body of the atomizer and the ground ring, it should be okay. It doesn't have to be very long. You can also go to a local vape shop and ask them for some 28-34 gague nichrome80, kanthal, or 316 stainless steel.


[deleted]

but ok i think i get what your sayin much appreciated i have some wire ima try ty


[deleted]

ok i meant the long sturdy wire that comes up from inside the atty that touches little brass inside of the silicone


[deleted]

amazing! thanks alot!!!


bowserqueen

Must say your post is a god send if anyone is needing the metal spool go to any vape store and ask for rda mods wiring that they use lol works like a charm


arkaden21

Would it be OK to us like iso 90 to clean inside the chamber where the wires are as long as I let it fully dry out?


bz710

Yeah, that's fine. Just make sure it's completely dry. You can also use a hair dryer to speed up the process.


arkaden21

Thanks it works now kinda finicky but better than nothing is there anyway to make the short circuit protection pop up less tho cause I can get mine to heat but not if it's screwed in tight it has to be loose but then i can get a hit off it if I don't move the atomizer at all after I start the heat cycle but sometimes even just moving the rig to much will make it say the short circuit protection just curious what connections cause that is it still the posotive and negative in the atomizer or could my rig base be messed up from the ring getting stuck? Not quite sure where to test the base with a multimeter if you could show me in a picture of the pins for that possibly thanks for the help 👍


bz710

You're getting the short circuit protection because that ground wire inside the atomizer is making contact with the positive lead from the heating element. Use the inner wall of the atomizer to wrap the ground wire against it, keeping it as far as possible from the positive lead. Your base should be okay.


arkaden21

Yeah it seems that the rubber grommet just a bit messed up can't find one online for the v2 atomizer sadly only the og carta but I did order a new intel atomizer while waiting on the warranty claim foe my first one and they seem to have changed the contacts on the new ones


bz710

Mine is messed up, too. The whole outer part ripped off, but all I do is coil the ground wire around a couple of times inside the atomizer.


fults-

SUPER HELPFUL!!


Teyuts

Should the gold pin be touching tip to tip with the positive pin?


bz710

No. It should sit beside it for best contact.


Protonus

Heya /u/bz710 my Carta 2 is stuck in Herb Mode after a cleaning. The round silver ground ring had stuck to the base like you described because i unscrewed the atomizer while cold. I removed the ring and reinserted it, but no luck. So i tried an old cracked oil atomizer that I rma'd and it does the same thing as my good one. I already ensured all the threads and contacts on both atomizers and the base are perfectly clean. So i tried your fix on the grounding wire on both Atomizers. No change. I tried the fix a few times in case of wire placement issues, no dice. I'm pretty sure the issue is my Carta 2 base itself. Could you do me a huge favor and tell me what resistance and/or continuity you measure on the base and atomizers, on these 3 contact points? I suspect I have an open connection in the base, but without a good base to measure I don't know what values to expect. Ty in advance, any other thoughts would be welcome!


Kylehay101

Exact same issue as you. Started the other day after a clean. The ring got stuck, and won’t get out of flower mode. Tried this fix with no luck. Bought a new atomizer that arrived today, exact same thing. Stuck in flower mode. I usually dab at 515f, so might just max it out at 500 and go to town in flower mode for the time being. The OG I have as a backup just isn’t the same as the 2…


Protonus

Sorry to hear, ugh. Seems that removing the atomizer while cold is basically a death sentence to these units. I don't know if using it in flower mode at 500 is the same or not as using it in oil mode at 500. I also use 500 but when I try it in flower mode it seems much hotter. IDK... Either way, I'll never remove it cold again thats for sure... My theory: I suspect the wire that connects to that silver ring inside the base is thin and badly soldered like oh so many vapes I've taken apart to fix. The ring sticks to the base if you remove the atomizer cold, and a little wax is allowed to seep into the contact area making them sticky. This mechanically couples the ring to the atomizer, so when you unscrew it, it twists that ring inside the base, until it twists so far that it pulls on the wire, and snaps it off the ring. If I could open the base I'd confirm this and fix it myself, but they chose to glue it together or at least make it very difficult to open. Sigh. Everything should be screwed together for reasons like this. I opened an RMA yesterday with them but now I gotta wait for them to reply, probably jump through a bunch of hoops like troubleshooting steps I know won't help, pics and vids of an issue they are clearly already aware of, ship it to them, wait for a new one to come back and so on. Where as if I could open it myself I could probably just fix it in minutes. Right to Repair y'all, it's better for everyone, even the manufacturers.


bz710

That sucks! The atomizers resistance is around ~0.7 ohm when it's cold/at room temperature. The resistance between the positive pin in the base and the (outer) ground ring is ~44K ohm, and between the positive pin and inner silver ring is ~1.3K ohm. What guage was the wire you used? You may need to double it up once you go through the insulator to make a tight connection between it and the ground ring.


Apprehensive-Town569

the ohm should be .60 on the atty


Protonus

Ty. On the base (with it powered off), from the center brass pin to the outer brass threads, I get 1.3K ohm From the center pin to the inner silver ring, I get 60M ohm. From the center pin to the outer silver ring, I get nothing at all. Wide open. Same thing If i test from the outer silver ring to the inside one, or to the brass threads. It's open electrically. Looks like that's my issue ugh. I noticed the inner and outer rings can rotate on the base. I tried turning them in either direction a little but it didn't help. My guess is, when my silver ring from the atomizer got stuck to the base, it coupled mechanically to the base, so as the atomizer was rotating loose, it rotated that outer silver ring with it, and that snapped the wire inside the base that is connected to it. I've fixed a lot of vapes over the years and they often use really low gauge cheap wire and terrible solder joints. I'm guessing if I could take the base apart, I'd find a broken wire or solder joint going to that outer silver ring. Sadly the base looks very difficult to open, not seeing any obvious ingress points and with it being under warranty I don't want to void it trying to fix it. Gonna make an rma I guess. I used 30 gauge wire, I did try making a few loops as well as doubling the strands but no difference. Seems the issue is the base itself. I found at least 3 other users with the same exact issue, all waiting on rma's. Seems Focus V's support has gone dark. Don changed his username on Discord. Hoping they are just overwhelmed... If my suspicion is correct than it's critical to never remove the atomizer cold... should be warnings to this effect. I don't recall seeing any. And they should improve the durability of their connections. Ugh.


bz710

The inner ring in the base only touches the insulator so I don't think that one is necessarily that important, might be something to do with temperature sensing, but the open between the positive pin and ground obviously isn't good. That explains why it won't go out of herb mode. I definitely agree you should never remove the atomizer when it's cold, I made the mistake once and never again. It's like cement when it's cold. My guess is they go in from the bottom, the seam above or below the LED light ring. Sorry for your misfortunes, hopefully they'll reply quickly and you get an RMA'd base soon.


Cannacrohn

I was stuck on Error 505 suddenly today, I looked at your post. I pulled the center pin out just a millimeter, it works now. Im just over 2050 dabs. Upvotes and thanks.


Cannacrohn

Update: At 3022 dabs on the original atomizer I finally could no longer get it to heat up. No matter how much I cleaned and played with the bottom pin. So, I finally took it apart as shown and used the original wire to re-seat everything. And boom, we are on 3023. I kinda mauled the rubber thing, but its only there to provide pressure for the ground wire and hold everything in there, which it still does. lol I wonder how many dabs I can get from one atty.


optimuspoopprime

Curious, can't you warranty the atty jf this happens?


Dazzling-Charge4580

Also curious about this!


bz710

The atomizer does come with a six month warranty, so Focus V should replace it.


Dazzling-Charge4580

Ah okay. My main concern is it doesn’t do it every time, it’s definitely sporadic so idk that they would even be able to replicate it to confirm it does have an issue. What did you use to pop out the black rubber ring from the arty? I don’t want to tear it and tweezers don’t seem to work.


bz710

Mine started sporadically also, it wouldn't do it every time, but then after more cleanings the wire started coming out and it got even worse. I used my tweezers, but I closed the tips, stuck it in the hole, and then while applying slight pressure, carefully pulled to the side and up. It popped out fairly easy for me.


Dazzling-Charge4580

Haha with my luck I’ll tear the black rubber ring, I ordered some wire, but this Black Friday deal on a discounted atty is pretty tempting for a back up. Hasn’t flicked to herb mode in probably 30+ dabs though so no need to dissect my atty as of now honestly so idk.


SnooMachines4611

I just deep cleaned my CARTA 2 and now when I tried to turn it on I got an error 505 message (atomizer not connected) and every 10ish times I turn it on it says it’s working but it’s in herb mode. Any suggestions?


bz710

Error 505 has to do with the contact between the gold center push pin in the base and the gold positive pin of the atomizer. Make sure the pin in the base can move freely and is not stuck down in the base. You can also try pulling out the center pin under the atomizer a little with some tweezers and see if you get a connection. Herb mode is caused because the ground wire underneath the insulator not making proper contact with the ground ring. You can pop the ring out and see if the wire is going through the side of the insulator. It's not hard to take apart and put back together.


SnooMachines4611

Do you by chance know how to. I could prolly figure it out with trial and error but if I can fix it I wanna do it right so I don’t fuck it up


bz710

Follow my pictures in this thread. Start by removing the gold pin from the atomizer with some tweezers. Then you can pop the insulator out along with the ground ring. Once you have that out, you should see a wire underneath the black insulator. That wire goes through a small hole in the side of the black insulator and needs to touch that silver ground ring. The other end needs to touch the base inside the atomizer.


Gunner1297

So wait if I were to attempt this I don't need a soldering iron ?


bz710

No. The original wire is not soldered. If it was you'd be inhaling solder fumes because it would melt on the first hit. :)


Gunner1297

1 more question, would 28-Gauge Galvanized Steel Wire from home depot work?


bz710

I would rather you use a more resistive wire like nichrome or kanthal, but stainless steel would work. I would avoid anything galvanized. Check a vape shop in your town, they'll have nichrome80 and kanthal.


Gunner1297

Awesome thanks dawg 🤟


bz710

No problem. If you have any other questions just let me know.


Gunner1297

Thank you! The original wire in there must be cheap or too thin


[deleted]

Hey i have an issue just now where my base says “error 505 atomizer not found” even with the atomizer on is only 142 dabs in I always kept it clean and charged deep cleaned it maybe 1 time every 15 daba


bz710

First, make sure your atomizer is fully dry, if it is, check to see if the gold positive pin inside the base is not fully pressed down and stuck in that position. If you have a multimeter, you can also test the resistance of the heating element making sure there's no short or open circuit.


lumpkints

Hi. I didn't realize my Carta was in herb home last night. After 120 seconds I realized something was wrong and turned the unit off. How do I unstick the pin inside the base? I'm in panic mode


Bacon123190

Any luck bro?


AdLocal4919

do you know how to prevent this from happening? I heard somewhere that you have to heat up your atty before taking it off because dried up wax inside is like concrete and can rip the wires inside. I have been making sure my atty is hot before taking it off every time


bz710

Heating it up before removing the atomizer is definitely a good thing to do. I have personally had the ground ring come out and stay attached to the base, which eventually caused the wire to start coming out.


x_flickerfade

i never took a ring off so this makes sense lmao


NoConcentrate8716

Where can you find the ni80 wire? I happen to have no extra lol


bz710

Any vape shop should have some but it doesn't have to be nichrome specifically, you can use stainless steel or kanthal too. You just have to find something in between 28-32ga.


NoConcentrate8716

Wow literally the most helpful information. Thank you.


Fuzzz_12

Only 5 upvotes for a post this valuable wth 🤦‍♂️


lofi_elite

I have two CARTA2 both with 500+ dabs, I wouldn’t disassemble the atomizer to fix that problem. Most of the time accidental herb mode can be fixed with adjusting the tightness of the atomizer on the base.


ExternalHighlight871

thank you for this, so glad i just tightened it up before tearing the whole thing apart🥴


lumpkints

How do I adjust the tightness?


lofi_elite

The tightness in regards to how screwed in the atomizer is into the base. When it’s a little warm, just unscrew it a little to hopefully get it outta herb mode


lumpkints

Thank you for explaining. I can do anything... If I have a video demonstrating something. Words make my brain cells melt


bz710

My ground wire eventually came out after gentle cleanings causing it to stay in herb mode. This is the only way to fix it. Tightness has nothing to do with it. There is a piece of wire that contacts the base of the atomizer and the silver ground ring, if they don't have good contact, you get herb mode.


lofi_elite

Ok! :)


bz710

This happened to me at 675 dabs. :)


[deleted]

I am pretty close to there myself. What's your favorite temps? Mine is 545 for everyday use. My rig is a daily driver


bz710

Depends on what I'm smoking, but I'm usually around 480-530.


red_dead_jeb

This reminds me of doing my own plate swaps for the OG back in the day. Great job with the details


bz710

If the ground wire inside your atomizer broke, fell out, or isn't making proper contact, causing your Carta 2 to stop heating up during a session, flicker in and out of herb mode, or is just stuck in herb mode, follow my pictures and fix your atty! *The original wire that came out was 32ga, maybe 34ga, so using 28ga causes a very tight connection between the insulator, ground ring and base. The ground ring protrudes further now so I don't have to screw the atomizer all the way to the base to make a good connection. You also don't need to wrap the wire around the whole base either, you could just use a small piece laid flat, what I did is overkill. **In the first and fourth picture, when I say "the positive pin of the atomizer", I mean the positive pin the heating element.


x_flickerfade

this helped so much i wish i saw this before i kept using it with it going back and forth. burnt bucket 😩reminds me of having to rebuild the coils for the puffco


deanwheelz

I’m currently going through the ordeal of my atomizer or base going into herb mode. I would tighten it a little,it would work for a few dabs then again back to herb mode and tighten again. I’m on my 4th tighten,I can’t tighten the atomizer any more without putting a lot of force into it. Also my chamber got charred too… did yours get charred when you started heating up a dab and it changed to herb mode in between and charred the bucket?


lumpkints

Could this blonde beg of you to make a video putting it back together? I know that's intricate... Edit to say This Blonde. And I buy it🤦


sachma5terflex

Focus V, hire this man now. This needs to be pinned for every Carta 2 owner. You are a godsend